Unmanned successes: Iranian developments in the field of UAVs

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Unmanned successes: Iranian developments in the field of UAVs

Light UAV Yasir


For a long time Iranian aviation industry is actively engaged in the subject of unmanned aerial vehicles. Dozens of types of such equipment with different capabilities and tasks are being developed, produced and operated. Due to this, Iran managed to cover the needs of its armed forces, as well as enter the international market.



Forced measures


Despite the well-known problems, restrictions and opposition of foreign states, Iran has managed to create its own defense industry, which has all the necessary industries. In particular, Tehran has its own aircraft industry. Various enterprises from its composition are capable of repairing and modernizing available equipment, as well as developing and building relatively certain types of aircraft.

For a number of reasons, incl. due to the impossibility of building full-fledged combat aircraft, it was decided to focus on the creation and development of unmanned aerial systems. Work in this direction began in the mid-eighties, and over the next decade, deliveries of finished equipment of the first models started.


Launch of Ababil-2 UAV during exercises

As part of the Iranian aviation industry, there are several scientific and technical organizations, a number of aircraft building and aircraft repair plants, as well as a large number of related enterprises producing various components. Almost all enterprises in this industry are involved in the development and production of UAVs in one way or another.

Unmanned systems are coming into service with all major structures and services. They are widespread both in the armed forces and in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Their UAVs are part of the army aviation, the air force and the navy. Some Drones are supplied to several customers at once, while others are designed according to the requirements of a specific structure.

Experience


In the distant past, the Iranian aviation industry began with simple light-class unmanned systems. In the future, projects of other classes and directions were created. As a result, by now it has been possible to launch the production of a full range of UAVs of all main classes, from light tactical reconnaissance vehicles to heavy reconnaissance and strike systems. Also in recent years, loitering ammunition of various types has been mass-produced.


Reconnaissance Ababil-3

Such progress was based on a modern component base, new technologies, developments, etc. Some of the ideas and technologies were created by Iran independently, as new projects were developed. Iran managed to get other solutions and components from abroad. In particular, it is known about active cooperation with China, which had the necessary products and ideas.

It should be noted that the Iranian industry carefully monitors foreign projects and adopts the most successful solutions. In addition, Iran is looking for and finding opportunities to obtain real samples of foreign production for deeper study. Some of the foreign UAVs were even copied, probably with some changes and taking into account their own needs.

To date, in technological and conceptual terms, Iran has taken a leading position in the world. Now he not only develops well-known and borrowed concepts, but also creates his own. In particular, in the recent past, the first wide-body reconnaissance and strike UAV was presented.


Mohajer-4 is one of the last members of its family

Intelligence tasks


For obvious reasons, the most widespread, both in terms of the number of types and the number of serial products, are light and medium-sized UAVs capable of conducting reconnaissance at a distance of up to tens of kilometers. Complexes of this kind are operated in almost all branches of the armed forces for observation, target designation and fire adjustment.

Yasir has become one of the most massive UAVs of this class to date. According to various sources, the troops have at least several hundred such devices. It is believed that this product was developed on the basis of the intercepted American Boeing ScanEagle, but noticeable differences indicate, at a minimum, a serious redesign of the design. "Yasir" is a device with a wingspan of 3 m and a mass of 19 kg. It starts from the launch guide and can remain in the air for more than 8 hours. An Iranian-designed optical-electronic station is used as a target load.

Of great interest is the Ababil family of medium-sized UAVs, which has been developing since the mid-eighties. It currently includes three main models and several of their modifications. The first devices were built according to the "duck" scheme and had a wing span of more than 3 m; takeoff weight - more than 80 kg. The Ababil-3 product was built according to the normal scheme with two tail booms. UAVs of the family are able to move at least 100-150 km from the starting point and stay in the air for 2 hours. The payload is the OES with real-time data transmission.


Sadid-345 bombs against the background of heavy UAVs Shahed-121 and Shahed-129

Outwardly and according to the main characteristics, the Ababil-3 UAVs are similar to the devices of the Mohajer family. The first samples of this line are capable of performing only reconnaissance, and later experiments began with the installation of weapons. For example, a fighter drone with a pair of MANPADS under the wing was demonstrated.

In a percussion role


In 2017, Iran introduced the Mohajer-6 UAV. For the first time in its family, this device received full-fledged shock capabilities. With its own weight of 600 kg, it carries a 100 kg payload. It may include Almas guided missiles or Qaem bombs. To date, according to various sources, Mohajer-6 UAVs have been built in the amount of approx. 180-200 units

Since 2012-13 the heavy reconnaissance and strike UAV Shahed-129 is in service. This is a full-fledged piston aircraft with a 16th wing and a payload of 400 kg. Up to four weapons of the required type can be placed on pylons under the wing.

Of great interest are the Shahed Saegheh and Shahed 171 devices. They were created based on the results of a study of a recovered American UAV and are distinguished by their characteristic appearance. These are inconspicuous "flying wings" of large span and takeoff weight, equipped with OES. According to various estimates, they can also carry weapons.


Stealthy Shahed-171

Last year, for the first time, the Kaman-22 product was presented - the second UAV of its family and the first Iranian wide-body drone. Outwardly, it is similar to some other samples of its class, but differs in a large outboard unit under the fuselage. Such a UAV can stay in the air for a day and carry up to 300 kg of weapons. It was reported that new guided missiles and bombs were developed for Kaman.

Loitering ammunition is also being developed, such as Raad-85, etc. These are light and medium-class UAVs equipped with simplified OES and carrying high-explosive warheads weighing several kilograms.

On a commercial basis


The Iranian industry is successfully fulfilling the orders of its armed forces and the IRGC, and at the same time selling UAVs to third countries. According to various estimates, as part of all past orders, Iran has shipped several hundred drones of a number of basic models. New orders are also appearing and being fulfilled.

Iran has found a curious market sector for itself: the demand for its products is determined not only by technical factors, but also by politics or economics. Iranian UAVs are bought by small and poor countries that cannot afford more expensive equipment from other suppliers. In addition, "non-democratic states" become Iran's clients, which do not have to rely on supplies from the US, Israel, etc.


The next representative of the stealth family is Shahed-191

As a result, Iranian drones serve in Venezuela, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Ethiopia, etc. Deliveries have been made to non-state groups such as Hamas, Hezbollah or Ansar Allah. Some countries have acquired not only finished equipment, but also a license for its production. For example, Tajikistan is assembling its Ababil-4 UAVs, and Venezuela is launching the production of Mohajer-6.

Latest news


A few days ago, Washington announced that Russia was showing interest in Iranian UAVs, and hundreds of such products could be delivered in the near future. Iran and Russia denied this information. In Russian-Iranian military-technical cooperation, our country plays the role of a supplier.

However, the acquisition of Iranian technology could be useful for Russian industry and the army. Iran is actively developing the unmanned direction and regularly shows new successes. Perhaps, in his projects there are curious features and solutions that should be studied by our specialists. In addition, with the help of Iranian "Shaheds" or "Mohajers" it would be possible to temporarily close the need for heavy reconnaissance and strike systems.


Promising UAV Kaman-22 with an enlarged fuselage

It is likely that such international cooperation may also be of interest to Iran. He could get access to some Russian developments in the field of avionics, weapons and various technologies for the further development of the UAV. However, Moscow and Tehran have already denied reports of possible deliveries of equipment. Cooperation in this area is also questionable.

Achievements and prospects


Thus, in recent decades, Iran has made outstanding progress in the field of unmanned aircraft. On his own and with the help of third countries, not always mutually beneficial, he managed to build a full-fledged industry that regularly issues new designs and launches their production. As a result, Iran managed to meet its needs for UAVs and enter the world market.

Apparently, the trends observed now will continue in the future. Iran will continue to develop new UAVs, produce them for its own needs and sell them abroad. Perhaps he will be able to expand sales markets and improve his position among the manufacturers of such equipment. In general, the current situation in the field of drones gives Tehran something to be proud of and reason to be optimistic – especially against the backdrop of past and current problems.
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  1. +20
    19 July 2022 05: 30
    It was necessary with the start of the war, without advertising such actions, to purchase their heavy UAVs from Iran, and adapt our bombs and missiles to them. It is a shame for our army not to have its own UAVs in the troops, especially in the conditions of warfare!
    1. +4
      19 July 2022 07: 11
      interceptions, the Russian 1L222 Avtobaza-M electronic intelligence system was used, with the help of which, in December 2011, the Iranian military managed to capture the American RQ-170 Sentinel stealth reconnaissance drone in western Afghanistan.

      So, 11 years ago, the Persians, with our help, landed a super-secret Sentiel, and with the help of reverse engineering, they created Shahid -191.
      I mean, both Russia and the PRC had access to this product, but for some reason, Iran and even more so the PRC could figure out how to make UAVs based on the obtained UAV technologies.
      PS The most "modern" combat aircraft in Iran are still the Shah's F-14s and overflown Iraqi MiG-29s.
      1. +2
        19 July 2022 08: 48
        The civilian problem is primarily in microelectronics, in high-quality optics. The Chinese do both in large quantities, but we have no one to do this, and from the Chinese we receive only civilian microprocessors.
        1. +1
          19 July 2022 08: 58
          Quote: Thrifty
          The civilian problem is primarily in microelectronics, in high-quality optics. The Chinese do both in large quantities, but we have no one to do this, and from the Chinese we receive only civilian microprocessors.

          So Iran does not have a lot, of course they have 2/3 fewer sanctions, but they have been in this mode for many years. In which we live for decades.
        2. 0
          24 July 2022 16: 00
          . The civilian problem is primarily in microelectronics, in high-quality optics

          The problem is not in the electronics, my friend, won't the Eastern spaceport be able to build, in your opinion, there is not enough concrete in Russia?
          The UAV development program was adopted long ago and money was allocated, which dried up somewhere along the way. The problem is corruption.
      2. +5
        19 July 2022 23: 15
        Quote: Civil
        The Persians, with our help, landed a super-secret Sentiel

        Oh, the sect "Witnesses of the Khibinovs and Electronic Warfare of the Almighty" turned on the old hurdy-gurdy. wassat

        Your brethren finally came up with (in 10 years) a plausible explanation of how it is technically possible to get stuck from the ground into a narrowly directed satellite control channel (having calculated the position of the satellite to begin with), crack in real time a 128-bit (at that time) encryption key with a change operating frequency according to an asymmetric schedule, and reprogram the FIRMWARE on the fly, which is responsible for security and the prevention of just such scenarios.
        Yes, in addition, to do all this with technology that is at least a generation superior in microelectronics (and computing power)? wassat
        1. 0
          20 July 2022 20: 25
          Quote: And Us Rat
          Quote: Civil
          The Persians, with our help, landed a super-secret Sentiel

          Oh, the sect "Witnesses of the Khibinovs and Electronic Warfare of the Almighty" turned on the old hurdy-gurdy. wassat

          Your brethren finally came up with (in 10 years) a plausible explanation of how it is technically possible to get stuck from the ground into a narrowly directed satellite control channel (having calculated the position of the satellite to begin with), crack in real time a 128-bit (at that time) encryption key with a change operating frequency according to an asymmetric schedule, and reprogram the FIRMWARE on the fly, which is responsible for security and the prevention of just such scenarios.
          Yes, in addition, to do all this with technology that is at least a generation superior in microelectronics (and computing power)? wassat

          We are talking about the UAV as a whole, about reverse engineering, which was mastered by everyone who had access to the device.
          1. 0
            20 July 2022 21: 34
            Quote: Civil
            It's about the UAV in general

            About what whole? It crashed, and the Persians showed an epoxy dummy.
            1. +1
              21 July 2022 08: 46
              Quote: And Us Rat
              Quote: Civil
              It's about the UAV in general

              About what whole? It crashed, and the Persians showed an epoxy dummy.

              How was the composition of the adhesive determined?
              1. 0
                21 July 2022 14: 11
                Quote: Civil
                How was the composition of the adhesive determined?

                Empirically.
  2. +22
    19 July 2022 05: 31
    Hmm, Iran ships hundreds of drones to other countries + produces for itself, but "Russia plays the role of a supplier" - now the soldiers laughed sadly, they would have put at least Orlans in the right amount, suppliers ...
    1. -17
      19 July 2022 07: 28
      they would have put at least Orlanov in the right quantity, suppliers ...

      what is "in the right amount"? Give a source of information that there are no Orlan-10, Leer-3, Eleron, Granat, Tachyon and Outpost UAVs in the units of the Russian army. For the second month I have been reading the whining of all-propellers, but I have not received answers to these questions. Your brethren the only possible answer considers to put a minus and fly further
      1. -5
        19 July 2022 09: 51
        Quote: Ka-52
        what is "in the right amount"? Give a source of information that there are no Orlan-10, Leer-3, Eleron, Granat, Tachyon and Outpost UAVs in the units of the Russian army.

        I watch videos of our opponents, and so they complain about our drones. They say that there are a lot of them and they can’t be heard, they literally say: They can’t be heard or seen, but they see you .. Maybe this is already paranoia? laughing
        1. -11
          19 July 2022 10: 41
          I watch videos of our opponents, and so they complain about our drones. They say that there are a lot of them and they can’t be heard, they literally say: They can’t be heard or seen, but they see you .. Maybe this is already paranoia?

          Dill lies - we don't have drones. They would have honored our all-weeders like barbiturate and Ross42, so they would immediately understand that they had already won the war, tomorrow it’s time for them to take Rostov
          1. -1
            19 July 2022 10: 47
            Quote: Ka-52
            our all-weeders like barbiturate and Ross42, so they would immediately understand that they had already won the war, tomorrow it’s time for them to take Rostov

            That in Ukraine, with its propaganda, the people have no doubt about it! We have our own here Yes
        2. +22
          19 July 2022 11: 36
          Let's separate the flies from cutlets.
          The most massive type of UAVs now are copters. There are thousands of them (3-4k on each side). These are various DJI or Outels or other commercial copters. They differ significantly in equipment, control options (for example, having fallen under electronic warfare or a drone gun, they can return home via INS or to a backup point on autopilot) and possible load (large copters carry grenades, improvised bombs, etc.).

          Deliveries are in the hundreds, for example, Chocolate Hetman brought 350 Autel EVO 2 and Lite +. At the same time, EBO2 has a thermal imager and an advanced autopilot, which makes it difficult to hit by indirect means (drone guns, electronic warfare). When the signal breaks, it acts according to the INS and the flight task or a dedicated protocol, here already from the task and program.


          Similar DJI drones and the same EBO2 are being dragged in boxes by volunteers for the allied forces and the RF Armed Forces. It’s just that EBO2 is not produced so much, they are now generally sold out and from the factory to the front. DJI is available, simply because the Chinese managed to launch a mega-factory.

          However, this is a UAV for direct reconnaissance, target designation for batteries 82-122.

          The next level is Eagles. A lot of them were lost (up to 20-25%), the mobile resource was also pulled up, at least a few of the Ministry of Natural Resources and the Ministry of Emergency Situations were shot down by photo. However, saturation is still high. There are problems in the optics, it floats and again I quote the operators "Sometimes we have to deliberate for a long time about what we see, a military target or garbage." The Armed Forces of Ukraine also has a similar type of UAV Leleki, PD1, etc. It seems that now the assembly is being taken out to Poland. Also various deliveries of this type.



          The main niche is the reconnaissance of the second echelons, supply lines, targets behind enemy lines, the adjustment of artillery fire in the near rear and at the forefront.

          Well, now let's move on to the deep one, there is only the Outpost and 1 Orion complex (if it is still alive, and not under repair / refinement). The goal is deep reconnaissance, monitoring tactical and strategic maneuvers of troops, tracking headquarters, logistics centers, important objects. Also, this niche falls on the task of immediately destroying key targets. Well, for example, there is an Outpost and Shahid:
          The outpost notices the transfer of the Himars battery along the highway and leads them to the settlement. There is nothing to hit them on the track (range). And in n.p. they are lost or the UAV loses the ability to further track (air defense, interference, fuel / range limitation).

          Shahid129 notices the Himars battery moving along the track and instantly hits them with guided bombs and missiles. The cinema immediately goes to Konashenkov's summary, boosting morale and mood.



          However, again, conditional 1 complex = that you do not have MALE. This only works for mass application. When operators are not shaking for every UAV, if anything happens, it also provides literally round-the-clock monitoring and regular strikes. This approach works not only for knocking out important goals, but also at a strategic level. The enemy is not only losing morale and combat capabilities, but is also forced to take specific measures to disperse. This means that the supply of ammunition and reinforcements is deteriorating, the transfer along the rear is carried out with air defense cover (which is removed from other objects) and is dispersed. Well, etc.
        3. +1
          19 July 2022 18: 55
          I watch videos of our opponents, and so they complain about our drones. They say that there are a lot of them and they can’t be heard, they literally say: They can’t be heard or seen, but they see you .. Maybe this is already paranoia?

          And what is the name of our most massive UAVs, which fly in large numbers over the enemy?
          1. TIR
            0
            8 October 2022 21: 08
            Chinese citizen Mavik, bought with the money collected in the ruble. And brought to the front line by volunteers. For the rear, such UAVs are not interesting - they cost less, which means there will be less dough to cut
      2. +7
        19 July 2022 09: 53
        Quote: Ka-52
        they would have put at least Orlanov in the right quantity, suppliers ...

        what is "in the right amount"? Give a source of information that there are no Orlan-10, Leer-3, Eleron, Granat, Tachyon and Outpost UAVs in the units of the Russian army. For the second month I have been reading the whining of all-propellers, but I have not received answers to these questions. Your brethren the only possible answer considers to put a minus and fly further


        You yourself know who will give it to you, and if you don’t know anything and are not interested in the situation with the UAV at the front, then there’s nothing to whine about the facts. And then for the second month he reads, and for the 5th month people collect for mavics and directly from the front report in their telegram channels that there are few or no Orlans, they don’t know how to use their own electronic warfare, crushes their own Orlans, no one really saw strike UAVs at all, once or twice they filmed something indistinct because the cameras are nonsense compared to the Wescam 15d bayraktara ... oh well, fly further on ka 52
        Today, here is another post about this written by Vladlen Tatarsky on the channel, there is also about Orlans ...
        1. -3
          19 July 2022 10: 13
          Quote: barbiturate
          he reads for a month, and people for the 5th month collect for mavics and directly from the front report in their telegram channels that there are few or no Orlans, they don’t know how to use, their own electronic warfare crushes their own Orlans,

          You are confusing the troops of the DPR and the LPR, you are looking at all this about them. We are talking about the Russian army.
          1. +7
            19 July 2022 10: 44
            Quote: Edik
            Quote: barbiturate
            he reads for a month, and people for the 5th month collect for mavics and directly from the front report in their telegram channels that there are few or no Orlans, they don’t know how to use, their own electronic warfare crushes their own Orlans,

            You are confusing the troops of the DPR and the LPR, you are looking at all this about them. We are talking about the Russian army.


            No, I’m not confusing, ours didn’t have small UAVs like Mavik or the like, which is why the LDNR military simply twisted their fingers at our temples, about which I read a bunch of testimonies from respected authors who are now fighting in Ukraine, and Orlans were used little and there were few of them as now, about which there is evidence of people from there and were used ineptly, such as losses from their own reb, inability to adjust fire on UAVs, untrained l / s in handling UAVs, etc. I am generally silent about shock UAVs, they simply do not exist.
            War is the best university and people understood the capabilities of UAVs, that every mortar and other battery should have them in abundance, like a consumable, every company ... but they don’t exist, but factories in 3 shifts try to give at least something, but trouble
            1. -4
              19 July 2022 10: 57
              Quote: barbiturate
              authors, and Orlans were used little and there were few of them as they are now, as there is evidence of people from there and were used ineptly, such as losses from their own reb, inability to adjust fire on UAVs, untrained l / s UAVs, etc. I am generally silent about shock UAVs, they simply do not exist.

              Ukrainian losses and witnesses do not support your version, they complain that we have a lot of drones.
              1. +7
                19 July 2022 16: 31
                Quote: Edik
                Ukrainian losses and witnesses do not support your version, they complain that we have a lot of drones.


                the version is not mine, I believe those people who are fighting there and our losses are also not small
              2. +2
                19 July 2022 19: 02
                Ukrainian losses and witnesses do not support your version, they complain that we have a lot of drones.

                And what are the names of these drones, of which we have a lot?
          2. TIR
            0
            8 October 2022 21: 11
            If anything, the armies of the DPR and LPR are better prepared in terms of light UAVs. There it happens that there are 3-4 for a company and 4-5 batteries for each. And in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation this is generally a failure. The troops of the republics are more prepared for war
        2. -14
          19 July 2022 10: 38
          Giving you yourself you know who will be,

          if you have no data on the presence of UAVs in units Russian army, then there is nothing here to try to scare me with your scream
          its own electronic warfare crushes its own Eagles

          you are still that connoisseur ... EW works on frequency spectra. It does not crush someone's UAV purposefully. Turn on your head already or whatever you think. If the frequencies of some Leleka and Orlan coincide, then the operation of our UAV will also be disrupted during the operation of electronic warfare. Here the problem is interaction, not your cries of "everything is gone."
          no one really saw drum UAVs at all

          Ukraine has them, how much have the Armed Forces of Ukraine achieved with their help? You can see Aristovich's listener, he loves to smash Russia with the help of a child prodigy. The network is full of videos where helicopters perform shock functions. Did you try to look before roostering at me from the fence?
          and people have been collecting for the 5th month for mavics and directly from the front they report in their telegram channels that there are few or no Orlans at all, they don’t know how to use,

          all problems with the presence of UAVs in the warring units are associated with the troops of the LPR and DPR. No "people write" can be in Russian units, so war correspondents are all polls ONLY in the republican troops. You speak your tongue without even knowing what. By the way, Tatarsky is also in Khodakovsky's regiment.
          1. +4
            19 July 2022 11: 06
            If the frequencies of some Leleka and Orlan coincide, then the operation of our UAV will also be disrupted during the operation of electronic warfare

            But this incident is not entirely clear to me.
            Even everyday life now uses jumps over the entire allowed range. And even if you launch two dozen models, you don’t need to designate your frequency with a colored flag as before, so that others do not interfere. Moreover, they use two or even three-band equipment 900 MHz, 2 GHz and 4 GHz. So these are the allowed ranges. It is strange to hear that the military bothered with "politeness". They would spread it over the spectrum right up to the noise level, and even with jumps in polarization and the formation of a zero diagram on the source of interference. - FIG than drown out, the gut is thin. Moreover, a constant connection is not needed - it flies by itself, and it’s even easier to shove a data packet every 5 seconds.
            And he suppresses his own - generally nonsense.
            It is not difficult to "agree" in advance on the sign "I am mine" in the package and allocate "my" clean windows jumping in time and frequency. "Crypting" is now at such a level - don't worry, mom, and dropping a password over a closed network is also easy.
            1. -4
              19 July 2022 11: 29
              anything can be hit with interference. Another thing is that the UAVs are equipped with MAARs with adaptive digital interference nulling.
          2. -1
            19 July 2022 13: 10
            Is a strike UAV a bayraktar? What is the point of using it in this version? The front is static, all targets are covered by cannon and rocket artillery, according to the instructions of the same bayraktar but in reconnaissance configuration
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          4. +1
            19 July 2022 17: 40
            Judging by the comments, you live in a different reality. Probably only official mo look. You didn't see the video from the other side
            1. -4
              20 July 2022 06: 17
              Judging by the comments, you live in a different reality.

              judging by your comment, you have a pan instead of head. Give links to your "videos", which say that Russian units are fighting without UAVs. A yap can be put in place only when you ask him for confirmation of his words
          5. TIR
            0
            8 October 2022 21: 18
            Helicopters no longer fly behind enemy lines. Working BEHIND our first trenches. Because the enemy is oversaturated with MANPADS, and if you fly higher, they will get medium-range air defense. So helicopter pilots can only work directly on the 1st and 2nd lines of enemy defense. They can no longer hit the concentrations of troops in the rear. VKS also works only when above our positions or behind. It happens in case of breakthroughs of our positions, they work on the attacking group with FABs. Because in such groups of air defense only MANPADS. Therefore, if a rocket hits the engine, then there is an opportunity to reach our own.
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      4. +6
        19 July 2022 19: 56
        A colleague (as I understand it), three days ago he personally dropped off to purchase from Vladik 10 Kenwood TK-3207. Our fighters, RF. Scouts. They ask for more quadrics. But what they need is from 60 pieces. Needed for every group. I am looking for a higher paying job)))) Maybe everything is somewhere. But there are a lot of divisions where nichrome ... no. Especially in the troops of the LNR / DNR. So not everything is rosy in the Kingdom of Denmark.
        1. +4
          19 July 2022 20: 57
          Quote: helicop-man
          A colleague (as I understand it), three days ago he personally dropped off to purchase from Vladik 10 Kenwood TK-3207. Our fighters, RF. Scouts. They ask for more quadrics. But what they need is from 60 pieces. Needed for every group. I am looking for a higher paying job)))) Maybe everything is somewhere. But there are a lot of divisions where nichrome ... no. Especially in the troops of the LNR / DNR. So not everything is rosy in the Kingdom of Denmark.


          You are right, we are constantly throwing off for radeks, armors, teploki and helmets, for normal unloading for pilots we threw off and again for radeks for the same pilots, they threw off pictures right away - they gave out with crushed displays and in general some kind of shit.
          It was just about the UAV, so I did not mention it. I recall the testimony of Khodakovsky during the storming of Mariupol: Chechens are coming, the equipment is good, they are built on equipment in columns and into the city, like I'm in shock, where ??? they will burn everyone, they tried it on a couple of armored vehicles and jeeps - the result is sad ... we give them several UAV calculations, we flew and showed them everything, they were crazy about it, it turns out how cool it is - the UAV and after a short time, Kadyrov, sent them 100 (one hundred ) Mavikov!!! Naturally, all this went to the great benefit of all our troops.
          He also wrote about the meeting of the commanders of the reconnaissance battalion and the LDNR, whether it was a military commissar, or a Tatar one, like the LDNR battalion commander asks ours - how many UAV crews do you have, I have 4 and this is not enough, and our Russian answers - we have 0 !!!
          So much for the Russian reconnaissance battalion, the war quickly teaches, but where to get them, these UAVs, quadrics, on an industrial scale.
          You read all this for almost 5 months, you see the sincere joy of people that at least somewhere you can buy UAVs, mavics from China, something more serious from Iran ... and to you, dude, a forum fighter, he says - they have everything, but shock UAVs in general Not needed...
      5. -1
        27 September 2022 21: 46
        There is nothing but Serdyukovsky Orlan
    2. -1
      19 July 2022 10: 07
      Russia is making a mountain of a different range of weapons and more technologically advanced
    3. 0
      25 July 2022 06: 17
      We must pay tribute to the Ministry of Defense, they were able to assess the prospects of UAVs back in 2008, there was a development program and money was allocated, but there is no mass production of the UAV nomenclature in the army, so we need to investigate where this money went

      For example, the strike drone "Hunter" has been developed since 2012, 10 years have passed, readiness - mockups and 1 prototype
      Drone "Altius"


      The Simonov Design Bureau is developing Altius 2011. The project cost is 1 billion rubles.
      Why is Altius not enlisted in the army? Because the money is spent on PR, which covers the cut.

      quote from https://life.ru/p/1510510

      In June 2022, (now former) Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov admitted that Russia was late in introducing drones into the troops, but money for the creation of these machines has been allocated regularly over the past few years. If Iran becomes the main supplier of this equipment for Russia, the competent authorities will have to find out what the Russian defense industry, which is responsible for this area, has been doing for the past few years.
      1. -1
        27 September 2022 21: 57
        The designer Altius was sent to the bunk on a trumped-up charge, and the company was squeezed out by an office close to Rostec, and this was all bent
  3. +24
    19 July 2022 06: 05
    Amazing. The country under sanctions has overtaken Russia in the rate of production of UAVs...
    One gets the impression that they are heavily lying to us, collecting single samples of new military equipment for the parade ...

    This is how Mr. Manturov managed in 14 years (since 2008), working in the Ministry of Industry and Trade as a deputy, and then a minister, to flood the Russian industry with such new technologies and attract professional specialists that today EVEN Iran could get ahead of us in the production of UAVs?
    Maybe his diligence was aimed at satisfying personal needs. Otherwise, it is impossible to explain the increase in income since 2010 by 7 times:


    And there is no need to hope for changes for the better with the transfer of leaders from one chair to another.
    *****
    Thanks to the authors of the articles that allow us to compare our special experience and our special become with strangers. stop Yes, the main thing is not taken away from faith ...
    1. -22
      19 July 2022 06: 56
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The country under sanctions has overtaken Russia in the rate of production of UAVs...
      It is even more surprising that Russia, being under sanctions (more than ten thousand today), is on a par with the richest country in the world in terms of fifth-generation aircraft and has overtaken it in the creation of hypersonic and strategic systems. Apart from nuclear technology.
      But all the fuckers don’t care - the main thing is to whine and smear snot on the topic of drones or some other fashionable high-tech whistle-blowers ...
      1. +18
        19 July 2022 07: 19
        Quote from: nik-mazur
        It is even more surprising that Russia, being under sanctions (more than ten thousand today), is

        What are you all sculpting your propaganda? At what level? The number of F-35s around the world exceeded 690 units, not counting the F-22 ... How many Su-57s are in service?
        And it also turned out that reconnaissance and attack drones are more important in the SVO, and not Poseidons and Sarmatians. This is exactly what we are talking about.
        You whine and whine about your successes and achievements, and as for consumer goods, everything is still purchased on the side. Here, before you, one nanomanufacturer whistled and whistled, he was taken for eggs, he stopped.
        You line modern technologies with snot. They don't give a damn about you. It’s a pity there’s nowhere to make yachts now ... But you start clapping your hands - you see, by some year the only one in Russia (“analogue in the world”) TAVKR “Admiral Kuznetsov” will again begin to surf the vast theater Atlantic Ocean... And on Mars apple trees will bloom...
        1. -9
          19 July 2022 08: 09
          You whine and whine about your successes and achievements, and as for consumer goods, everything is still purchased on the side.

          Firstly, this site is not dedicated to consumer goods news. You publicly made a mistake.

          secondly, any major world power imports itself a mass of goods produced anywhere (mostly in Indochina). And the population is not particularly steamed from this. In the USA, France, Italy or France, people drive Mercedes, buy Samsung Galaxy, eat from pans stamped from Chinese aluminum, wear abibbas made in Taiwan and watch soap operas on TV, in which only a nameplate is from Philips. And you don’t hear tantrums like you, with “aaaaa, everything was right!”
          The number of F-35s around the world exceeded 690 units, not counting the F-22 ... How many Su-57s are in service?

          How cleverly you jump. We just discussed the achievements of Iran, and then again .... and the F-35 appears laughing
          And it also turned out that reconnaissance and attack drones are more important in the SVO, and not Poseidons and Sarmatians. This is exactly what we are talking about.

          The article deals with the composition of the Iranian Air Force in terms of UAVs. What you are talking about is not at all clear. Some slogans and brandishing panties with holes. What do you want to say then? If you speak, give arguments. Whine-whine is not an argument.
          1. -5
            19 July 2022 09: 35
            Yes. Many, many penguins. True, they fly through time. They stand more on the ground - it is dangerous to fly on them. And NOBODY has ever seen them in action. There are a lot of tales, but the evidence is crap. So sha while the penguin is the lame duck of US aviation. like his parent. Which has already gone under the write-off. No wonder the squeal goes that it is necessary to return the 16th.
          2. +3
            19 July 2022 17: 55
            What does it mean that the site is not dedicated to consumer goods news? That's when the AK-12 fighters are all with fashionable picattini trims, and naked without a body kit? What is it like? There was enough money and power for machine guns, but not for "consumer" sights and other body kit? Why bother with this PR project Ratnik then?
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          3. 0
            25 July 2022 06: 50
            firstly, this site is not dedicated to consumer goods news

            This article highlights the achievements of a country where camels were thought to still be ridden, but suddenly Iran, along with China, is in the top 10 world leaders in the production of UAVs. For 20 years, he has successfully developed a whole line of UAVs - from reconnaissance aircraft to strike vehicles. The Russian Federation can only boast of the number of billionaires on the Forbes list, megayachts and the amount of London real estate.



            How much do compradors pay you that you protect them?

            secondly, any major world power imports itself a mass of goods produced anywhere (mostly in Indochina). And the population is not particularly steamed from this.

            No one argues with this, you still argue that the sky is blue.
            By consumer goods, it was not meant clothes and household appliances, but weapons that are not as cool as aircraft carriers, but without which it is impossible to win.

            How cleverly you jump. We just discussed the achievements of Iran, and then again .... and the F-35 appears

            You yourself pointed your finger at the sky, he replied to the comment nik-mazur which overpowers mock-ups against state-of-the-art aircraft, which is kind of stupid.
            1. -3
              25 July 2022 08: 04
              By consumer goods, it was not meant clothes and household appliances, but the weapons are not as cool as aircraft carriers, but without which it is impossible to win

              Stop interpreting the usual word as it seems to you from your crazy positions. Consumer goods are consumer goods. That is, civilian goods for the population - from irons to pots. Ros42 meant this.
              How much do compradors pay you that you protect them?

              And how much do the gentlemen from Khodarkovsky's funds pay you that you are tearing your back?
              This article highlights the achievements of a country where camels were thought to still be ridden, but suddenly Iran, along with China, is in the top 10 world leaders in the production of UAVs.

              You are a talker. Did you come up with this rating yourself? Give a link to this rating and those who made it and according to what criteria. Wangyu that, apart from balblabla and blowing bubbles, you won’t give anything to the mountain
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          1. +4
            19 July 2022 09: 14
            Quote from: nik-mazur
            By the way, in terms of hypersound, we are also penultimate and overtake only China, which occupies an honorable second place.

            Smiled .... wink
        3. -3
          19 July 2022 10: 02
          Yuri Vasilievich stop.
          1) Do you have information that Russia is going to buy drones from Iran?
          2) Do you have reliable information that it is in the Russian troops that there is a shortage of UAVs in Ukraine?
      2. -2
        19 July 2022 07: 53
        I also wanted to say that the submarine fleet is not the most frail, we will punish if necessary.
      3. +3
        19 July 2022 13: 13
        is on a par with the richest country in the world in terms of fifth-generation aircraft
        Does the VKS already have a couple of hundred Su-57s?)
    2. -14
      19 July 2022 07: 22
      Amazing. The country under sanctions has overtaken Russia in the rate of production of UAVs...

      let's compare: how many UAVs of different classes Iran has and how many Russia (indicating at least the source). They called themselves a load - climb into the body.
      Thanks to the authors of the articles that allow us to compare our special experience and our special become with strangers.

      why don’t you fight in hysterics when the quantitative and combat capabilities of other Iranian systems are compared with Russian ones? For example, air defense, OTR, ICBM, VKS, MBT, barrel artillery systems and RZSO and much more, up to small arms?
      1. +1
        19 July 2022 20: 07
        Colleague (probably), we are all patriots and we are worried about our guys on the front line. expressing their opinions, focusing on problems (preferably from all angles) and criticizing shortcomings, the participants in the discussions do not spread rot on the country and our Armed Forces. We are all trying to find (or at least voice) these gaps and discuss possible ways to solve these tactical (I hope) shortcomings in the military industry or the organizational activities of the relevant departments and services.
      2. 0
        25 July 2022 07: 01
        For example, air defense, OTR, ICBM, VKS, MBT, barrel artillery systems and RZSO and much more, up to small arms?

        As shown by the NWO, this is not enough for 5 months they cannot move forward.
    3. +5
      19 July 2022 07: 55
      Quote: ROSS 42
      One gets the impression that they are heavily lying to us, collecting single samples of new military equipment for the parade ...


      so everything is before our eyes, but we are led by these Potemkin villages
      and then - we argue about armata, checkmate, yes su57 - from the same opera
      the problem is different, kmk, the same manturov - went for a promotion with such work, this is the trouble.
      there are no ideas - no people who would implement them in the interests of the Motherland
      1. -7
        19 July 2022 09: 17
        Quote: Dedok
        the problem is different, kmk, the same manturov - went for a promotion with such work, this is the trouble.
        there are no ideas - no people who would implement them in the interests of the Motherland

        Write an article, expose the idiot!!! Suddenly, "The Most Important" did not see who he nursed on his chest ....? So open your eyes... laughing
    4. 0
      19 July 2022 09: 32
      Because Iran cannot produce normal combat aircraft, and therefore develops what it can? Not? Well, show me a major military conflict where Iranian UAVs were at least not on the dance floor.
      1. 0
        19 July 2022 15: 00
        Quote: Vladimir_3
        Because Iran cannot produce normal combat aircraft, and therefore develops what it can?


        and how many aircraft have we produced over the past 20 years?
        count both civilians and military ...
        as our Guarantor says - "asymmetric response", that's all
        1. 0
          21 July 2022 15: 02
          Enough. Exactly a couple of orders of magnitude more than the Iranians.
  4. Kim
    -7
    19 July 2022 06: 28
    Do I understand correctly that under the sanctions and in the absence of the need to distract designers and production for military aircraft, it took about 35 years to fully launch the UAV, with the help of China?
    1. +13
      19 July 2022 09: 02
      HESA Ababil is the first production UAV of Iranian design - 1988.


      Shahid 129 - 2012 is the first serial MALE UAV of Iranian design.


      Gaza (Shahid 149) - 2020. The first high-tech MALE+ UAV of Iranian design. There are all the chips of the current generation - SATCOM (that is, the range of application is limited only by fuel, and you can conditionally strike at the Ethiopian Liberation Front while drinking coffee in a comfortable chair in Tehran), new prismatic optics, heavy bombs, missiles and other combat load.
  5. -1
    19 July 2022 06: 40
    It was very interesting to read!
    And about Russia... So, what topics are there: computers, planes, cars, space, household appliances... Ah, but our people love their ruler and have been electing him for 20 years already! And there is a lot of gas in Russia! This is not khukhr-mukhr for you ...
  6. +7
    19 July 2022 07: 41
    An advanced country in the field of UAVs will supply a backward country in the field of UAVs with its advanced products. It seems to me alone that this is the final station, or are there those who want to wait until Ethiopia becomes the advanced country for us?
    1. -10
      19 July 2022 07: 51
      The leading country in the field of UAVs

      for the next talker, I will inform you that not Iran, but the United States, is considered to be the best in the field of UAV construction. They have the largest UAV fleet in the world. As is the structure. By the way, the answer will be to the question: why does the UAV fleet of the Americans account for almost half of the fleet of combat aircraft of various classes, and UAV combat sorties account for only 8% of the total number of US Air Force flights? And the number of targets hit in recent wars is even less - only 2%? Or will the answer be silence again? lol
      1. +6
        19 July 2022 14: 50
        If we calculate the military budget of the US and Iran, the picture is somewhat different. If Iran had 10% of the United States, then their UAVs would be an order of magnitude higher. So the comparison is absolutely not correct.
        1. -4
          20 July 2022 06: 58
          If a grandmother had a penis, she would be a grandfather. We are not discussing hypothetical probabilities, but the actual situation. So it is not necessary about correctness or not correctness.
          1. +2
            20 July 2022 14: 20
            And the actual state is such that Iran is No. 3, in the mattress "table of ranks", about enemies. In the first place China and Russia. Therefore, the Persians have absolutely nothing to fear. Immediately against three, even the hegemon's "navel will be untied")))
            1. 0
              20 July 2022 14: 29
              unfortunately, on our side of the barricades there is no such unity as on theirs request
              So far, China and Russia are unlikely to support Iran in the event of a war, except for condemnation at the UN. And since the mattresses are much more inventive in coming up with reasons for the invasion than we are, the destruction of Iran will follow the same scenario as Iraq. Well, maybe a little bloodier. Or maybe less, depending on US tactics.
              1. +1
                20 July 2022 14: 41
                There is no particular unity on the other side of the barricades either. For mattress makers, NATO is an instrument of influence. But everyone else, except for the Psheks and the Balts, is tired of being a tool.
                1. -1
                  20 July 2022 14: 51
                  There is no particular unity on the other side of the barricades either.

                  and especially unity is not necessary. In Yugoslavia and Iraq, all NATO allies came to the assembly as soon as the trumpet called. Someone whined, of course, but this did not stop the Americans from collecting a shock fist. So it could happen to Iran too. It's just that the American establishment itself does not need it yet.
                  1. +2
                    20 July 2022 15: 17
                    In Yugoslavia and Iraq - it was a long time ago. Now, if you attack Iran, loyal allies will whine and won't come, there are no fools. Afghanistan and Ukraine are excellent examples.
      2. +2
        19 July 2022 18: 39
        for the next talker, I will inform you that not Iran, but the United States, is considered to be the best in the field of UAV construction.

        You presented an amazing version, only this article says something else, namely
        To date, in technological and conceptual terms, Iran has taken a leading position in the world. Now he not only develops well-known and borrowed concepts, but also creates his own.


        Or will the answer be silence again?

        You have become too rude and I don’t want to answer the boor.
        1. -6
          20 July 2022 06: 48
          You presented an amazing version, only this article says something else, namely

          for the next windbag I will inform you - I did not state a version, but a fact. To check which you just need to pull your head out of your pants and open Google. Specific figures are published there - how much, where and what class. And your link to the article is mediocre and stupid because: firstly, it does not provide any confirmation of "leading positions, except for the words of the author. On the basis of which he issued a statement about these positions. Secondly, for you, personally, I'll explain how in kindergarten: you can only compare by number a number with another number - 2 < 5, 148 > 37, etc. And only talkers like you can compare the number 560 and the phrase "significant number". Where is the number of UAVs in Iran's arsenal? figure. I have already made sure that you are either an elementary school student, or not far from him in mind. You only know how to yell
          1. +2
            20 July 2022 18: 39
            You are an amazing specimen, albeit a boor wassat
    2. 0
      19 July 2022 18: 45
      Without us, the end of Russia, so you have to stay.
    3. 0
      19 July 2022 20: 11
      Wait ... my mom))
  7. -4
    19 July 2022 09: 30
    Yes, how much can you already? Well, where, where did Iranian UAVs show themselves? Neither in Syria, nor in Iraq, nor even in Yemen, they showed themselves. at least their contribution is very far from being strategic. You can buy it, see it, but in a squat, it’s already too much. Well, large drummers are just an air defense nickname's dream. Wide, not maneuvering, glowing like a Christmas tree at night. It is not a pity to plant a missile of "older" systems in such a one. That is why the Americans abandoned the idea of ​​​​supplying eagles - they will knock them down.
    1. +5
      19 July 2022 10: 11
      So let the Ukrovskaya air defense work on UAVs, and not on our planes! What's wrong with that? An airplane has 50 million weapons for it, another 10 million pilot training is similar to the cost of the aircraft itself, a total of 100-110 million, the price of a lost side, and then an UAV worth 1-2 million, plus an exposed air defense position and the consumption of its materiel .. What's wrong with that? I repeat, it’s not ukrams who need to use UAVs en masse, but US !!
      1. -1
        21 July 2022 15: 08
        Will it definitely work? They have ambush tactics. They attack strictly on planes. Because they have more load and efficiency ten times more. Well, a large strike UAV is not much cheaper than an airplane. the only difference is that there is no pilot. And once again - show where the Iranian UAVs showed themselves. let's just say - their influence on the theater of operations where there is not even fragmentary air defense is approximately ZERO. if not less. Well, we use UAVs en masse. The groan of Ukrainians overwhelms all their publics. And then they began to massively use kamikaze, so there, in general, suffering rose to the skies.
        1. +1
          21 July 2022 15: 20
          And what is not? Do they aim by radar or only by eye? They will ignore UAVs then Karachun will come to them from them .. And where were UAVs generally used in commercial quantities? Here ukra is quite a suitable option for Iran, they recognized the LDNR and are on their way ..
    2. -1
      27 September 2022 22: 02
      I thought the dream of air defense is expensive Su-34s with primitive FABs that even shoot down MANPADS
  8. +3
    19 July 2022 10: 21
    Since we cannot organize our own production of UAVs, then in this situation it is not a sin to learn even from Iran. Since our managers can only press buttons on the keyboard.
  9. +2
    19 July 2022 12: 21
    They would have told me some 30 years ago that we would happily wait for the supply of military equipment from China or Iran ....
    I would call the paramedics
  10. +4
    19 July 2022 14: 47
    It would be nice to establish a joint venture with Iran for the production of UAVs. Today, such a plant operates in Tajikistan. By the way, we can formally get UAVs from there, and not directly from Iran.
  11. 0
    19 July 2022 14: 47
    Of course, we believe the denials that came from Moscow and Tehran))) until we see the wreckage of some Iranian bird in Ukraine))) although even in this case it will be possible to safely "reject" everything and claim that the bird was purchased privately , some "Wagner". And official Tehran, and even more so Moscow, have nothing to do with this at all.
  12. -1
    19 July 2022 17: 58
    Dear (no) author - your phrase "Promising UAV Kaman-22 with an enlarged fuselage" [b][/b]just a kindergarten in terms of expert analytics!
    This damn thing is not an "enlarged fuselage" (what kind of nonsense is that in general), these are UAV wings fastened from below. An elegant solution for transportation - the fenders are unscrewed, screwed on the sides from below and on any truck ...
  13. +2
    20 July 2022 08: 12
    Hat-throwing and eyewash in Russia is annoying, as is the lack of the opportunity to show normal international relations in terms of military assistance - all on their own. How can a country of 150 million people produce everything by itself? I want honesty and fairness. A friend of mine in the NM DPR constantly asks for thermal imagers and drones (and he is, by the way, an optimist - he is negative about Girkin). He says there are roughly 2 copters, but you need 5 and then with 5 they could move quickly. Everyone who is related to the NVO knows about such a need - why not announce that Putin has successfully traveled to Iran and will bring hundreds of UAVs. Honor and praise for this will be our president. Or was the trip a failure? If even Iran cannot supply us with military assistance, then the question arises why we do not have military allies? Well, if only they want to do it as secretly as possible from the United States, etc. ... but they apparently already know everything. And your people get ignorant (
  14. 0
    20 July 2022 17: 46
    At least they can gain experience in using them, for understanding and for the subsequent development of similar or other more convenient, possibly cheaper UAVs.
  15. +1
    23 July 2022 21: 20
    Unlike us, who have a lot of developments inherited from the GREAT civilization and develop them, these guys independently developed from scratch and MASSIVELY produce a new type of weapon. We must take good examples, and as grandfather Lenin said: study, study and study.
  16. 0
    4 October 2022 01: 26
    ours played network-centricity and long-range UAVs. The troops, on the other hand, need cheap, simple and NUMEROUS weapons of destruction up to 10 km, means of observation, communication and adjustment of artillery fire along the front line of the enemy.
    Finally buy 40 Chinese quadcopters...