Mauser Model 1910

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Self-loading pistol "Mauser" 1910 Dimensions: total length 138 mm, barrel length 79 mm. Total weight: 0,431 kg. Caliber: 6,35 mm. Royal Arsenal, Leeds

“I took out the Mauser, raised the safety with my thumb and pulled the trigger.
The four pairs of hands that held me loosened instantly. I jumped onto the windowsill. From there, I managed to make out the white, as if wadded faces of the students, the yellow slab of the stone floor, broken by a shot, and turned into a biblical salt column stuck in the door of Father Gennady. Without thinking, I jumped from the height of the second floor to the beds of bright red dahlias.

"School" A. Gaidar

stories about weapons. Anyone who hears the word "Mauser" usually immediately imagines something massive, long-barreled, with a magazine box in front of the trigger guard, in the hands of either a red commissar or a basmach like Abdullah from the White Sun of the Desert. The more experienced recall Paul Mauser's bolt-action rifle, the Mauser K98. However, even the M98 was by no means his only design, it just turned out to be his most successful creation. As for the pistol, it became famous in part because it was Winston Churchill's favorite weapon (although legend has it that he changed his mind when he discovered the Colt M1911). The “broom handle” (as this gun is often called in the West) was also widely used in China, where a lot of Chinese copies of it were made, both during the 1917 revolution of the year, and then during the civil war - that's right. Well, after it, the “bolo” Mausers (“bolo” is an abbreviation for “Bolshevik”) were specially ordered in Germany for the OGPU. But there was another Mauser pistol, which was not Winston Churchill's favorite, which was not associated with great political upheaval, but which was a quiet figure, and which, nevertheless, sold about half a million copies. He was mentioned by A. Gaidar in his story "School", and today we will tell you about him.

It was originally conceived in 1906-1909, but became known when its production models of 1910 and 1914 appeared.



In the new semi-automatic pistol, Paul Mauser saw a design that could be both enlarged and reduced to the cartridge used. That is, to have a pronounced market orientation. It was most likely created by an engineer named Josef Nickl, whom Mauser hired in 1904. Nickl designed pistols in 9mm Para, .45 ACP, 7,65 Automatic (.32ACP), and 6,35 (.25ACP) pistols. At the same time, pistols for strong .45ACP and 9 mm cartridges used a slow-action system, and for smaller cartridges, a blowback design.

The .45 ACP and 9 mm Pair Mauser full-size military pistol design used a rather unusual delayed blowback system in which a pair of levers in a frame in front of the trigger guard engaged with the sloping surfaces of the bolt. When the pistol was fired, the bolt and barrel moved away together, while the friction between these inclined surfaces and the bolt delayed the unlocking of the bolt until the pressure in the breech fell to a safe level. When the levers were lowered, the bolt and barrel unlocked. An early Mauser design had an unusual shock-absorbing recoil spring at the rear of the frame that dampened the blow of the bolt.

Pistols of 9 mm and .45ACP caliber with such a shutter as military samples, as they say, “did not appear”: the German military adopted the P08 Luger, and the American military adopted John M. Browning’s Colt M1911. Even the hard-nosed Britons, who considered automatic pistols "damn unsportsmanlike", created their own Webley Mk I pistols, designed by William Whiting and adopted by the Royal Horse Artillery in 1913 and the Royal fleet in 1914. That is, the initial idea of ​​​​creating one basic pistol design suitable for all customers could not be implemented. However, from the very beginning, Mauser also worked on smaller caliber pocket pistols for civilians and police.

This is how the Pattern 1910 pistol was born, with M1910 being the nomenclature applied to the smallest pistol in the series chambered in 6,35mm (.25ACP) and the model name M1914 being used for the 7,65mm pistol. (.32ACP).


Comparison of the M1910 caliber 7,65 mm with the pistol "Walter" PPK. Photo revivaler.com

In fact, the Mauser pistol chambered for the 6,35 mm Browning cartridge (.25ACP) was introduced in Europe in 1906, and in the USA two years later. It had a blowback design, which is what distinguished it from the 9mm Para and .45ACP versions. The gun turned out to be simple, very reliable and easy to maintain. It had a minimum number of parts and was easy to disassemble in the field.

Mauser Model 1910
"Model 1910" in disassembled form. Photo littlegun.be

As you can see in the photo, the fixed barrel was made easily removable: it was held in place by a long pin, which at the same time was the guide rod of the return spring.


"Mauser" 6,35 mm with a "door" for cleaning the mechanism. Photo revivaler.com

The first variant of the Model 1910 featured a "side door" located just above the trigger and allowing it to be removed for cleaning and lubricating the mechanism. The second option was the "New Model", which was commonly referred to as the "Model 1910/14" because it first appeared in 1914. The fact is that the “door” created some problems. For example, it allowed the trigger to be removed, but due to the pressure of the spring, this was difficult to do. On the new model, it was removed and some other changes were made to the mechanism, including the slide delay. The new striker mechanism made it easy to determine whether the pistol was cocked or not.

The mechanism of the Model 1910 6,35mm and Model 1914 7,65mm pistols was the same, which, of course, was very convenient for both the manufacturer and consumers.

To work with a pistol, it was necessary to first open the shutter, but ... this could not be done if a magazine was not inserted into the pistol. If an empty magazine was inserted, it could be pulled back and locked in place. If an empty magazine was removed, the bolt remained locked in the open position. But if after that an empty magazine was inserted again, the shutter closed.

If the store was loaded with cartridges, then at the moment when he entered the pistol all the way, the bolt broke off the delay and went forward, sending the cartridge. This was a very handy feature, providing the fastest reloading, since no bolt had to be used to fire the pistol, and as soon as a loaded magazine was in the pistol, the bolt would automatically close and fire could be fired. So the design was very well thought out.


At the ready-to-fire pistol, the striker protruded from the rear of the bolt. Photo by ForgottenWeapons.com

The safety was a small lever behind the trigger. Once the safety lever is pressed down, it locks into place and cannot simply be pulled back up: instead, a lock button just below is pressed, which causes the safety to rise under spring pressure and disengage so that a shot can be fired.

There were several variants of the 6,35mm "New Model" pistols, including commercial models produced after World War I, the "Transitional Model" of 1934, and the "Model of 1934", which features a more rounded and ergonomic grip.

The pistol we now call the Model 1914 Mauser was a 7,65mm (.32ACP) version, and development began after the Model 1910 entered production. The design of the pistol was almost identical to that of the 6,35 mm "Model 1910", but adapted to the larger and more powerful .32ACP cartridge.


Above - pistol model 1910 "New Model", note the absence of a side latch. Below is a version of the M1934 "New Model" from 1910 with a more ergonomic rounded grip. Photo revivaler.com


Scheme of the 7,65 mm (.32ACP) pistol Mauser "Model 1914". Photo revivaler.com

The 7,65 mm Mauser pistol was intended for the police, because it was the 7,65 mm cartridge that by this time had become the preferred caliber for many police departments in Europe. The first version of the 7,65mm pistol featured a "humpbacked" bolt design, in which the thickness of the metal around the ejection hole in front of it was less than behind it. The logic of thinning the metal around this hole makes sense in terms of allowing spent cartridges to be ejected more easily, while the thicker metal at the rear of the breech gives extra mass to absorb the recoil force of the 7,65mm cartridge.


Standard "humped" pistol "Model 1914" of the first version. Photo revivaler.com


A rare long-barreled copy of the Model 1914. Photo revivaler.com

With the introduction of the Model 1914 "humpback" pistol, Mauser decided that additional machining was not really needed to achieve this form of action, so a new model was introduced, with a flat top surface of the action.


Two examples of Mauser pistols in 7,65 mm (.32ACP) model 1914. Both models are export models, but pay attention to the differences in markings: there are many variants of these pistols. Photo revivaler.com

There were many variants of the 7,65 mm Mauser pistols, including those purchased by the German Reichsmarine, Kriegsmarine, Weimar Republic Navy, Weimar Police, and the Norwegian Police.

The last major design change to the Model 1914 was the Model 1934, which, like the 6,35mm version, received a more rounded pistol grip.


Mauser M1910/1934 at the top and Mauser M1934 HSC at the bottom. Photo revivaler.com

This sample replaced the earlier "small Mausers".
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  1. +8
    10 July 2022 05: 50
    In the USSR, Gaidar's novel *School* was considered autobiographical! But it was thanks to THIS * Mauser * that it was possible to prove the opposite, Arkasha Golikov’s first weapon was * Browning * of the 1900 model, This was found out from a photograph of 1918, the gun was bought on the market in Arzamas without a holster and was worn tucked into a belt, Therefore, from the biography Gaidar, all the moments in one way or another connected with * Mauser * fall out, including the escape from the White Guard captivity, Sincerely, Shishkov S, B, graduate of the ASPI named after A, P, Gaidar
    1. +6
      10 July 2022 06: 28
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      the pistol was bought on the market in Arzamas without a holster

      Those were the times... smile
      went to the market bought a pistol like a watermelon.
      I thank Vyacheslav for the excursion into the depths of Mauser products ... the endless theme of pistols and revolvers does not end ... very pleasing. hi
      1. +5
        10 July 2022 13: 37
        I will add the author
        Dimensions and serial numbers of pocket pistols of the Mauser system

    2. +5
      10 July 2022 13: 36
      A few Mauser 1910s even came with a detachable stock holster.

  2. +3
    10 July 2022 06: 09
    Vyacheslav, as always, thank you! hi Speaker. Baek is, in my opinion, the only drawback of the pistol, they could have placed it differently, but as they say, they know better.
    1. +5
      10 July 2022 13: 37
      Incomplete disassembly of the Mauser 1914 pocket pistol (manufactured by 1910-14) of the 7.65mm caliber (.32ACP).

      1. +2
        10 July 2022 17: 27
        Good afternoon, Mikhail. hi

        In fact, Vyacheslav should have at least casually mentioned the real author of this pistol, Josef Nikl, a fairly well-known designer in the arms world.

        1. +1
          10 July 2022 17: 39
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Good afternoon Michael

          hi

          Quote: Sea Cat
          Vyacheslav should have

          It was possible, of course.
          We have already argued with him about the quality of the material, which depends on the number of articles.
          He now has a lot of posts a week.
          So I didn’t mention Josef Nikl
          1. +3
            10 July 2022 17: 55
            It's true, quality always suffers from quantity. But, if not for the articles by Vyacheslav and two or three other authors, then there would be nothing to do on the site at all. smile
        2. +3
          11 July 2022 11: 58
          Quote: Sea Cat
          In fact, Vyacheslav should have at least casually mentioned the real author of this pistol, Josef Nikl, a fairly well-known designer in the arms world.

          Criticism of the author of the material from my point of view is unreasonable, since at the beginning of the material there is a mention of the probable author of the design: ".. It was most likely created by an engineer named Josef Nickl, whom Mauser hired in 1904 ..."
          1. 0
            11 July 2022 12: 55
            You are right, I wonder how I missed this phrase. hi
  3. +3
    10 July 2022 06: 51
    Vyacheslav, thanks.
    I learned new things about "small" Mausers.
  4. +3
    10 July 2022 08: 12
    Hello colleagues!

    Vyacheslav Olegovich - thanks for a good and interesting article.

    In the new semi-automatic pistol, Paul Mauser saw a design that could be both enlarged and reduced to the cartridge used.

    However, structurally, .45 and .32 ASP differ from .22 and .25 calibers very significantly, because
    When the pistol was fired, the bolt and barrel moved away together, while the friction between these inclined surfaces and the bolt delayed the unlocking of the bolt until the pressure in the breech fell to a safe level.

    Those. we have an automation system based on a short stroke of the barrel, with a semi-free shutter. By the way, I could not find a diagram of this mechanism, I only read that it was very simple, but unacceptably sensitive to pollution.

    But in the caption to the photo
    Above - pistol model 1910 "New Model", note the absence of a side latch. Below is a version of the M1934 "New Model" from 1910 with a more ergonomic rounded grip.

    I misunderstood something. It seems that everything is in its place.

    PS It seems that there was also a modification of the .45 of 1911 with a handle safety, which did not go into the series.
    hi
  5. +1
    10 July 2022 14: 30
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Quote: serg.shishkov2015
    the pistol was bought on the market in Arzamas without a holster

    Those were the times... smile
    went to the market bought a pistol like a watermelon.
    I thank Vyacheslav for the excursion into the depths of Mauser products ... the endless theme of pistols and revolvers does not end ... very pleasing. hi

    In the Grozny market relatively recently (in the early 90s), pestles and other bullets were also sold to everyone for bucks. Even the transfer was to the airplane, without special control. I remember that at that time I was on probation in the now abolished air police - the head of which decided to check hand luggage and luggage through an introscope upon arrival on all sides, although flights were considered domestic. Almost constantly they found something, mostly military from the warehouses of the SA, including machine guns, but I even remember IZH 70-01 in cal. 9x18, which was listed in the batch allegedly sold by the manufacturer to Finland.
  6. +3
    10 July 2022 15: 31
    We had both pistols in the base version and in 7,65mm. Both are absolutely perfect pistols. But the PPK model, or Mauser PP, with a total caliber of 7,65 mm, was an absolutely top-end weapon for its time.
    Of course, today the weapons are more sophisticated, but it was the ideal personal weapon for an officer. Many thanks to the author, he knew what he was writing about. am
    1. 0
      11 July 2022 13: 02
      But the PPK model, or Mauser PP, with a total caliber of 7,65 mm, was an absolutely top-end weapon for its time.

      These are pistols of different generations, although they are not separated by such a long period of time. Mauser Nikla "served" his time and left, and "Walter" PP and PPK are still copying everyone and sundry
  7. +3
    10 July 2022 16: 57
    Photo in the author's article

    Caption:
    Comparison of the M1910 caliber 7,65 mm with the pistol "Walter" PPK. Photo revivaler.com

    Here is a mistake, the photo shows "Walter" PP, not PPK.
    Here is a photo for comparing PP and PPK models
  8. 0
    10 July 2022 18: 27
    Good evening. Vyacheslav Olegovich, I read the story: "School" and not immediately, but I noticed that on the pistol, he says: "revolver."
    When we had the book "Small Arms" I found it there - Mauser. His girlfriend calls him "snub". .
    What do you think: why did Gaidar call him a revolver?
    We already have this question on our site. I asked. Perhaps you have found the answer?
    1. +1
      10 July 2022 20: 20
      Quote: Astra wild2
      What do you think: why did Gaidar call him a revolver?

      At that time, a pistol and a revolver were often not distinguished. Because a pistol with a rotating chamber was called a revolver.
      1. +1
        10 July 2022 20: 41
        Revolver - rotating? I remember this from school. They let me sharpen it on a lathe. And I was about 10. I was overwhelmed with pride: I work on a lathe!
        1. +1
          10 July 2022 21: 08
          From English revolve - rotate
          1. 0
            18 July 2022 18: 35
            According to the definition of GOST 28653-2018,
            revolver - "a pistol with a rotating block of chambers or barrels".
            But when they say "revolver" to a pistol, in my opinion, it's wrong.
    2. 0
      11 July 2022 12: 03
      "School" read in childhood, 40 years ago. And despite this, he accurately remembered the phrase where the "Mauser" is called a pistol. I checked it by tyrnet and ... I was not mistaken:
      ".... Nothing," answered the soldier. "What's wrong with your son, or what? pistol. Alexei found him in a German trench ...."
      1. 0
        11 July 2022 15: 32
        But "give me back the revolver. The class committee decided that you hand over the revolver"
        Remember when Fedka Shmakov demanded?
        An excerpt by Vyacheslav Olegovich is a continuation of that episode
  9. 0
    10 July 2022 18: 43
    Probably not convenient to shoot from this - because of the tilt of the handle.
    On Margolin, she is perfect.
    1. +2
      11 July 2022 13: 10
      So Margolin was originally created as an exclusively sporting weapon, while the Mauser had a completely different purpose, then consider the difference in "age" at that time and there was no such thing as "ergonomics" in relation to weapons.
      1. 0
        11 July 2022 15: 00
        There was.
        The tilt of the handle of the Margolin is about the same as that of the Luger.
        1. +2
          11 July 2022 15: 16
          I'm talking about the concept, and not about the fact that somewhere, once a pistol was released with a successful inclination of the handle. By the way, the angle of inclination of the "Margolin" and "Eight" is different and the density of the grip is also different.
          1. 0
            11 July 2022 16: 00
            I don't know what an eight is.
            From Margolin I shot a real one.
            Luger held a copy of the pneumatic one in his hands.
            Feelings are the same.
            This or that thing is convenient from time immemorial.
            1. +2
              11 July 2022 16: 54
              "Eight" in slang, and not ours, means R.08, in the commercial sale of "Parabellum". Only the Americans call him Luger out of great love for loud names, and, well, our home-grown "gunsmiths". Read about Georg Luger's promotional visit to America.
              And R.08 - this means a pistol adopted by the German army in 1908 - hence the "Eight", approximately as we called the "Three-ruler" Mosin rifle arr. 1891/30

              And do not compare with pneumatics, you are an adult. Hope. smile drinks
              1. 0
                11 July 2022 17: 35
                Why not compare?
                It's the same as MMG.
                1. +2
                  11 July 2022 17: 48
                  MMG can in no way be an analogue of military weapons. Feelings are not the same. It's like having sex with a rubber woman, thank God I haven't tried it myself, but I can imagine. laughing
                  Go to the shooting gallery and shoot from different models. Really expensive, damn it, in my opinion.
                  1. +1
                    11 July 2022 17: 54
                    Why do I need a shooting range?
                    I have a gun at my house.
                    1. +2
                      11 July 2022 18: 38
                      I have two of them, and both are BM-16s, but you can probably imagine the difference between a bottle of beer and a bottle of Rum. I mean their use from the first call. smile
                      1. +1
                        11 July 2022 18: 47
                        I understand, but I don't like guns. Except for those with little recoil, like Margolin.
                        I have VPO-205-03.
                      2. +1
                        11 July 2022 18: 59
                        It’s clear, I advise you to try a revolver like Rossi 22LR in the shooting range, I think you will like it, I liked it, just zero recoil and it’s convenient, the viper was born arm in arm. smile
                      3. +1
                        11 July 2022 19: 02
                        In Tyumen, unfortunately, it is very bad with shooting ranges, the choice of weapons, etc.
                        The only place where it was possible to shoot smoothbore weapons during the reconstruction, and in the shooting ranges from pistols Glocki and ChZ, well, PM.
                        I went to Yekaterinburg to buy my gun, but not in Tyumen.

                        I would shoot from the Czech PP "Scorpion", for example.
                      4. +1
                        12 July 2022 16: 37
                        I now live in a village half of Ryazan, there are shooting galleries there, but I don’t know about the assortment, I have never gone. Before retirement, he lived in Moscow and "Rossi" used the shooting range of the Research Institute of Forensic Science, there he tried the "Eight" and much more, they have an excellent collection of all kinds of trunks.
                        I never had a chance to deal with the Scorpion, but the guys from Lugansk praised this machine chambered for our 9x18 cartridge.
                        Just in case, I corrected your karma. smile drinks
                      5. +1
                        12 July 2022 17: 35
                        A familiar colonel served in Soviet Czechoslovakia, spoke well of the "Scorpion".
                        Now these barrels are sold there for 200 euros, but with the possibility of automatic fire removed (shoots single).
                        You can buy a civilian PPSh, "Kedr" with a false silencer and a rigid buttstock, VPO-285 from us from PP (but this gun initially shoots only single shots).
                        Thanks for the karma. drinks
                      6. +1
                        12 July 2022 17: 51
                        I somehow had a chance to shoot from a captured Chechen "Borz" (in the same place at the research institute), so he shut up at the first store when firing bursts, even though the cartridges were fresh, from the warehouse. So-so product of Armenian gunsmiths.
                      7. +1
                        12 July 2022 18: 08
                        Do you think VPO-285 is at the same level?)
                      8. +1
                        12 July 2022 18: 34
                        No, I don't think so. I have never seen this barrel live, not to mention the shooting. You know better. And "Borz" just came to mind, everyone ran to look at it, the men specifically called me to come, because it passed as material evidence and it was brought for examination for just a couple of days, and indeed, this barrel was then exotic. smile
                        Then my friend wrote an article about him, in "Master Gun" as far as I remember.
                      9. 0
                        12 July 2022 18: 41
                        They write Chechen was worse in quality than the Armenian prototype.
                      10. +1
                        12 July 2022 18: 48
                        On its basis, the Chechens generally sculpted a monstrous self-propelled gun, and where they could make good trunks, there was almost no production base - hence the quality, or rather the lack of it.
                        Here are a couple, they don’t really look like the Armenian prototype either.


                      11. 0
                        13 July 2022 18: 02
                        And they didn’t shoot from the French MAT-49 software?
                      12. 0
                        13 July 2022 18: 17
                        We had one in the department, but it was already handed over in a gutted state, so alas. But such a model did not fall into the examination. There were in the Museum of the Armed Forces, but all drilled. At Mosfilm, the gunsmith had a Hotchkiss Universal submachine gun (can you imagine!), but there was no MAT.

                        Photo of my son with a "de-energized" MAT-49
                      13. 0
                        13 July 2022 18: 36
                        It’s a pity, especially since the PP is interesting, especially the police version, and the weight is impressive.
                      14. +1
                        13 July 2022 18: 44
                        In fact, rather rough stamping, the metal is thick, the barrel, as far as I remember, was normal, but there was no shutter at all.
                        By "policeman" do you mean a model for the gendarmerie?
                      15. 0
                        13 July 2022 18: 53
                        Yes. With a wooden butt, an elongated barrel, two triggers.
                      16. +1
                        13 July 2022 19: 21
                        Yes, MAT-49/54 for the gendarmerie. Photo Sassik.livejournal.com

                        With two triggers.
                      17. 0
                        14 July 2022 17: 35
                        An interesting software, and judging by what they write and the videos are reliable, with a large margin of safety.
                        What else did you manage to shoot at the research institute?)
                      18. 0
                        15 July 2022 01: 40
                        You can’t remember everything about short barrels, there were cartridges for almost any standard import, and among the more serious and rare barrels, perhaps, the Russian Winchester and the American M3A1. The American (completely new) was taken as a trophy in the battle on Playa Giron and presented to Air Marshal Sudets for organizing Cuban air defense. I really liked this machine, the return is almost zero.
                      19. +1
                        15 July 2022 17: 25
                        Didn't you come across American sports pistols "Ruger"?
                      20. +1
                        15 July 2022 23: 01
                        That's what was not, that was not. Of the sports, there were only our "Margolins".)))
                      21. +1
                        16 July 2022 04: 46
                        And the Beretta M12 PP?)
                      22. +1
                        16 July 2022 05: 14
                        No, alas, this "beast" was not.)))
                      23. +1
                        16 July 2022 13: 28
                        As a Francophile, I was interested then, but what else was French - pistols, PP, rifles, etc.?
                      24. +1
                        16 July 2022 14: 58
                        I can hardly remember everything now, I left the museum in 22. Of the French, I well remember the post-war "Walter - Manurin" XNUMXLR in excellent condition, I did not even begin to drill it.

                        Pair of revolvers Saint-Étienne 1892

                        M1886 Lebel rifles

                        There were also 1907

                        There was an easel Hotchkiss 1908-14.

                        Here, offhand, what I remembered.)))
                      25. +1
                        16 July 2022 15: 03
                        And how did the French Walter differ from the German, in addition to the caliber?
                      26. +1
                        16 July 2022 15: 04
                        In mechanics, absolutely nothing, an exact copy.
                      27. +1
                        16 July 2022 15: 11
                        And the quality?
                        Was there an MR-73 revolver?

                        Drilled to remove rust, cavities?

                        And "Rossi", this is Brazilian, and how is their quality?
                      28. 0
                        16 July 2022 16: 34
                        The quality of weapons, especially "Walter" and "Hotchkiss" is excellent.

                        "Manurmna-73" was definitely not.

                        The barrel is drilled in order to blank the weapon so that it cannot be used as a combat one, this is at the request of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

                        Yes, "Rossi" Brazilian and with the quality they are all on top. I shot at the same time from the Brazilian "Taurus" 38Sp, an exact copy of the Smith-Wesson, the shooting is comfortable, the quality is beyond praise.
                      29. +1
                        16 July 2022 16: 48
                        Interesting, I would never have thought of Brazilian weapons like that).
                      30. +1
                        16 July 2022 17: 56
                        And in vain, because there, as in all Lat. There are a lot of Germans in America, and they are well-known masters.
                      31. +1
                        16 July 2022 18: 53
                        Rossi saw a used, lever-action rifle for sale.
                      32. +1
                        16 July 2022 18: 58
                        Haven't seen it so I can't say.
                      33. +1
                        16 July 2022 19: 23
                        Now I want to shoot from Russia) 22 caliber, with a normal, not a short barrel.
                      34. +1
                        16 July 2022 20: 23
                        Well, good luck to you, Maxim. smile
                      35. +1
                        17 July 2022 08: 33
                        Thank you hi .
                        Were there Italian samples too?
                      36. +1
                        17 July 2022 18: 11
                        Wow, I totally forgot! fellow We had an Italian submachine gun Villar-Perosa M1915 in our fund, sometimes it is called Revelli by the name of the designer, consider it the first P / P in the world, not entirely successful, but the first one.

                        This is obviously an option for installation on armored vehicles of that time. Photo on my desktop in the museum.
                        Here is a photo of the infantry model.
                      37. +1
                        29 July 2022 18: 07
                        Good evening, did you shoot from domestic post-war PPs?
                        For example "Kedr"?
                      38. +2
                        29 July 2022 18: 32
                        No, I didn’t shoot from them, they weren’t in the funds, and the bandits were more and more foreign, right up to Agram.
                      39. +1
                        29 July 2022 18: 45
                        And there wasn’t even AKSU?
                      40. +2
                        29 July 2022 19: 00
                        Yes, something “Bitch” didn’t interest me, some kind of under-Kalash, the cops had it, but it didn’t even occur to me to offer to shoot.
                      41. +1
                        29 July 2022 19: 06
                        Well, in the USSR, of the ersatz PPs, there were only APS and AKSU. And also like "Scorpion" )).
                      42. +2
                        29 July 2022 19: 30
                        Well, the APS is not an ersatz at all, I have always liked this pistol, since army times. It’s a pity that the cartridge is rather weak, that’s why the Scorpion didn’t really take root under our patron, the people preferred the Uzi if possible, although in my opinion it’s a coffin-coffin and what’s unique there I didn’t understand, the Czech p / p Holechek, with which Gal ripped off his typewriter and it will be better.
                      43. +1
                        6 August 2022 09: 04
                        By the way, what Rossi did you shoot from (model)?
                      44. 0
                        6 August 2022 09: 16
                        "Rossi" 22LR, but I won't say the exact brand, it was a long time ago.
  10. 0
    10 July 2022 21: 36
    Gentlemen, if not difficult, tell us about the practical shooting from this pistol.
    I have experience only from PM and TT.
    1. 0
      11 July 2022 15: 35
      "only from PM" I shot from: PM and PSM, and I saw TT in the cinema
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    11 July 2022 09: 24
    I.V. Stalin used, they say.
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      11 July 2022 13: 07
      Comrade Stalin did not even know the word "yuzal" laughing he spoke Russian.
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        11 July 2022 13: 38
        Native language I.V. Stalin - Georgian, in addition, for admission to the Orthodox school, he learned Russian.
        As a result of his studies at the Gori School, Stalin received 4 in ancient Greek, 5 in Russian and Church Slavonic. Thus, we are talking about 3 languages, except for the native, which the young Soso Dzhugashvili more or less mastered. It is also believed that Stalin at least understood the spoken Armenian, Azeri, Abkhaz and Ossetian languages, as well as the Mingrelian dialect of Georgian.
        No new languages ​​were taught at the Tbilisi Theological Seminary, but Stalin studied French on his own, but he failed to learn this language. At least he didn't mention it anywhere.
        In exile, Stalin to some extent learned the German language, and after coming to power - English. In the census form of 1926, he indicated that he reads in German and English, but cannot write in them, that is, he does not speak fluently. Much later, Churchill recalled that Stalin understood English perfectly, but did not speak it, at least not with the British prime minister. Nevertheless, the works of Marx and Engels, as well as the classics of German philosophical thought, were in Russian translations in Stalin's personal library, and he read them in Russian, making pencil notes in the books.
        So not everything is so simple.
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      11 July 2022 15: 44
      Quite, perhaps, a pistol of a "pocket" sample. He was widely known in the Civil War, and Stalin preferred everything well known
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    11 July 2022 15: 16
    Quote: Mister X
    A few Mauser 1910s even came with a detachable stock holster.


    Pure fake. The holster does not match the shape of the pistol and a different scale is visually visible.
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    13 September 2022 20: 47
    I enjoy reading these articles as a reminiscence of my turbulent youth. I had a pistol of 7.65 caliber, miraculously did not, but it was comfortable in my hand, relatively light and surprisingly accurate, I like to remember it, although I also had representative models like
    Walter PP and PPK (PPK and Armádní PP). I find these articles helpful. Not everyone was lucky enough to be the regiment's gunsmiths.
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    25 March 2023 09: 29
    Why don't you write about Mauser from this series chambered for Luger and 45 caliber .