Transport and combat vehicle for ZRPK "Pantsir-SM": a large ammunition load and new features

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Model of TBM "Pantsir-SM". A frame from the reportage of the TV channel "Zvezda"

The development of the promising anti-aircraft missile and gun complex "Pantsir-SM" continues. In the foreseeable future, it will pass all stages of testing and will be put into service. Such a complex differs from the basic version by the presence of several new tools and products. In particular, a fundamental innovation is the transport-combat vehicle, due to which it will be possible to increase the ammunition load and expand combat capabilities.

On development stage


According to known data, the Pantsir-SM project was launched in 2013. In accordance with the instructions of the Ministry of Defense, the Tula Instrument Design Bureau named after. A.G. Shipunov was supposed to develop an updated version of the combat vehicle under the designation 72V6M, a completely new transport and combat vehicle (TBM) 72V6MT, as well as advanced models of missile weapons for them.



Already in the middle of the decade, materials on Pantsir-SM appeared at private exhibitions and events. Later, at the Army-2019 forum, the first open demonstration of a finished new type of combat vehicle took place. The following year, 72V6M vehicles took part in the parade on Red Square for the first time and attracted the attention of spectators.

In the same period, images of both promising vehicles with launchers appeared in open promotional materials. Thanks to this, it became clear what the promising TBM of the 72V6MT type would look like, how it would differ from the main machine, and what its main capabilities might be.

At the end of June 2022, the technical forum "Engineers of the Future" was held in the Tula region. Together with other organizations, the KBP participated in it. It presented a number of models of well-known and promising technology, incl. TBM model from the Pantsir-SM ZRPK. The current layout is broadly similar to the previously shown animated XNUMXD model; differences and changes are minimal.


View of the combat module and crane equipment. A frame from the reportage of the TV channel "Zvezda"

Representatives of the KBP revealed the main features and differences between the new TBM and the main combat vehicle. At the same time, it was not specified at what stage the development is and whether there is a full-fledged prototype. Also, the timing of the tests and the expected adoption of the new ZRPK into service are not reported.

Features and differences


Like the Pantsirya-SM combat vehicle, the transport and combat vehicle is built on a four-axle KamAZ chassis. Such a base provides high mobility on the highway and sufficient mobility off-road. At the same time, the running and operational characteristics of the two ZRPK machines are on the same level. Combat work on the move is not provided. The TBM must arrive at the firing position, climb on the jacks and carry out other necessary procedures.

As in the case of the 72V6M product, a combat module with target equipment and weapons is installed on the chassis. Its basis is the body-platform, characterized by a reduced height. It accommodates the necessary instruments and assemblies, but there is no space inside for the operator's cabin.

On the platform there is a rotary tower with electronic equipment and weapons. In its front part (in the direction of missile launch) there is a characteristic antenna device of a target tracking radar (STS). This is a radar with AFAR, borrowed from a combat vehicle. In older materials, an optical-electronic station was demonstrated above the SSC. It is not on the new layout, but another antenna is placed at the back of the module.

Weapons are placed on the sides of the module. The TBM is equipped with two oscillating launchers. Each of them has mounts for 12 transport and launch containers - a total of 24 pcs. At the same time, TBM carries only missiles. Two 30-mm double-barreled guns were abandoned, which made it possible to free up space and carrying capacity for additional TPKs with missiles.


"Pantsir-SM" at the exhibition. Photo "Rostec"

Apparently, the transport-combat vehicle is capable of using all the proposed missiles from the Pantsir-SM air defense missile system. The 57E6E short-range missile is retained, and a new missile with a range of up to 40 km should also be used. In addition, a small-sized rocket, known as 19Ya6, was being developed for the new complex. This product is distinguished by a compact TPK: four such missiles are placed at once in the size of a standard ammunition.

As part of the complex


Thus, the Pantsir-SM ZRPK in its entirety has several means for various purposes. Depending on the tactical situation and air defense needs, it may include a combat vehicle, one or more TBMs, as well as a battery control center and a detection radar. All these means are placed in a combat position and connected by cables or by radio.

The tasks of TBM as part of the complex are quite simple. First of all, it is an auxiliary tool that ensures the operation of the main combat vehicles. With the help of its own crane, the TBM is able to reload the TPK from its launcher or from any transport to the 72V6M combat vehicle. This eliminates the need for a separate machine with crane equipment.

The 72V6MT machine is capable of performing combat missions, but its functions and tasks are significantly limited. TBM needs the assistance of a combat vehicle or command post - they are responsible for remote control, send target designation and issue a launch command. Then the TBM must independently take the target for escort, launch the missile and direct it.

Features and Benefits


The main objectives of the Pantsir-SM project were to increase the firing range, as well as expand the range of air targets hit. These tasks are successfully solved through the development and implementation of new electronic equipment and advanced missiles. In addition, with the help of a promising TBM, new operational and tactical capabilities are achieved.


Ceremonial crew, June 24, 2020. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

The Pantsir-SM combat vehicle, using regular radars, can detect air targets at ranges up to 75 km. With the help of the new STS and a promising long-range missile, it is capable of firing at targets at a range of 40 km and altitudes up to 15 km. Combining several such air defense systems into a network, incl. with the inclusion in the general control loops of air defense allows you to more fully use their potential.

New rocket models are of great importance. One of them increases the range from the original 15-20 km to 40 km and allows you to attack "traditional" targets. A small-sized, simplified and cheaper missile has also been developed, designed to combat UAVs of various classes. At the same time, two cannons were retained on the combat vehicle to hit targets at minimum ranges.

The introduction of a transport-combat vehicle into the complex provides new operational and tactical opportunities. First of all, TBM simplifies the preparation of equipment for duty and launches. It can transport and reload missiles on its own or with the involvement of other vehicles.

In addition, TBM can supplement combat vehicles in a firing position. In terms of the size of the ammunition load (in the case of full-size missiles), it is twice as large as the 72V6M vehicle, which gives certain advantages. At the same time, several transport-combat vehicles can accompany one combat vehicle. Other options for the combat composition of the platoon / battery are also possible. In all cases, additional pieces of equipment with launchers and a large number of missiles will be useful.

Machines 72V6M and 72V6MT can be located at the same position or at a distance from each other. In the latter case, the TBM turns into a remote launcher with known advantages. By dispersing the means over the terrain, it is possible to increase the covered area of ​​fire and / or reduce the risks for other means of the complex and their calculations. With all this, it does not require the involvement of more complex combat vehicles with a full complement of equipment.


Fighting vehicle "Pantsir-SM" against the background of the previous "Pantsir-S1". Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

The simultaneous duty of vehicles of different types increases the ready-to-use ammunition of the complex. At the same time, Pantsir-SM can use different ammunition and, due to this, it acquires signs of a layered air defense system. It can intercept targets in different areas and missiles with different ranges, or "finish" broken through objects with the help of guns. In addition, the presence of several vehicles with their own STS increases the number of targets fired.

It should be noted that a similar concept of an anti-aircraft complex has already been used by our industry and the army. For example, air defense systems of the Buk family include the so-called. self-propelled firing system (combat vehicle) and launcher-loader (TBM) on a unified chassis. This composition of the complex gives operational advantages and increases combat performance in all conditions. Now this idea is being implemented in the Pantsir family of air defense systems.

Uncertain Future


Thus, the transport and combat vehicle for the Pantsir-SM anti-aircraft missile and gun system is distinguished by a simplified design, and also improves its overall performance and gains new capabilities. The benefits of such a TBM and its need as part of a full-fledged ZRPK are obvious. That is why TBM has been present in the project from the very beginning, from the moment the order was issued from the Ministry of Defense.

To date, the main combat vehicle "Pantsir-SM" has reached the test, and the status of the transport-combat vehicle is not yet clear. It already exists in the form of a layout, but the construction of the prototype, as well as its testing, has not yet been reported. Probably, the new product and its work at the landfills will become known later. And as a result, in the foreseeable future, our air defense forces will receive a new complex with all the ordered equipment and all the desired capabilities.
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  1. +3
    5 July 2022 16: 24
    It is difficult to evaluate such a technique by the layout. The news that the shortcomings of the air defense system have been minimized is encouraging. supposed work only from a place - does not please.
    Probably, Pantsir-SM will find its niche in the air defense system.
    Unfortunately, there is nothing more to discuss, and it is too early to talk about the effectiveness of the complex.
    1. +2
      5 July 2022 16: 32
      well, given that the main point with the BC has been resolved and now instead of 12 missiles there are 24, this is already cool in itself
      1. +4
        5 July 2022 17: 04
        if you count standard missiles
        it’s good that they developed small-sized ones to combat UAVs
      2. -3
        5 July 2022 17: 33
        Quote: Barberry25
        well, given that the main point with the BC has been resolved and now instead of 12 missiles there are 24, this is already cool in itself

        Do you think that the 1% effectiveness of Pantsir-C20 recorded in Syria CAN now be increased to 40%? stop Thor has 80%!!!
        For this purpose, air defense systems are created so that not a single enemy missile reaches the target. What's the point in the fact that the new "Shell" out of 24 hits 5 targets?
        And how much will fly specifically, we will be able to find out only after combat use.
        hi
        1. +2
          5 July 2022 23: 05
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Quote: Barberry25
          well, given that the main point with the BC has been resolved and now instead of 12 missiles there are 24, this is already cool in itself

          Do you think that the 1% effectiveness of Pantsir-C20 recorded in Syria CAN now be increased to 40%? stop Thor has 80%!!!
          For this purpose, air defense systems are created so that not a single enemy missile reaches the target. What's the point in the fact that the new "Shell" out of 24 hits 5 targets?
          And how much will fly specifically, we will be able to find out only after combat use.
          hi


          Where does such data come from? Any confirmation?
          1. -3
            6 July 2022 04: 27
            Quote: AVM
            Where does such data come from? Any confirmation?

            From the camel From the forest, vestolaughing
            Later, Viktor Murakhovsky said that the complex showed serious shortcomings and flaws, covering the Khmeimim airbase in Syria from air attacks. According to him, the effectiveness of the "Shell" was only 19%, in contrast to it, the effectiveness of the Tor-M2 air defense system was 80%[65].
            The disadvantages include the presence of a dead funnel in the upper hemisphere[66][67], the duration of bringing into combat condition[68].
            The effectiveness of the complex depends on the tactics of its use, which, in particular, is ineffective when deploying launchers alone, and not as part of a full-fledged complex[69].

            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Панцирь-С1
            1. +1
              6 July 2022 08: 57
              Wikipedia, seriously? Just look at the edit history of the article you linked to.
              If the fate is that now the citizens of the Russian Federation can make changes to the information on the wiki much less, now the citizens of Ukraine are making their point of view in all articles that relate to the Russian Federation in one way or another. To believe the wiki at the moment is not possible from the word at all.
              Well, in fact, I repeat the question of your opponent, where does the information about the effectiveness of the "shell" come from?
            2. +3
              6 July 2022 11: 28
              Pedivikia is a serious source! True, in a decent society they do not refer to this garbage dump, but if you want, you can. On Murakhovsky, too, IMHO, you should not refer. Another expert!
            3. +1
              6 July 2022 20: 51
              Quote: ROSS 42
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Панцирь-С1


              This is a serious expert. Surely he has access to classified information ...

              Some of his statements are worth something:

              In Syria, it turned out that the "Shell" practically "does not see" low-speed and small-sized targets, which include military UAVs. At the same time, the complex regularly recorded false targets - large birds flying around the base, which confused the operators.

              In fact, these are mutually exclusive things - the radar either sees everything of a comparable size / EPR, or sees nothing (less than a certain size). That is, if the radar of an air defense system / air defense system sees large birds, then any other air defense system with comparable radar capabilities will see them, and distinguishing false targets from real ones is already an operator’s qualification. If a small target is comparable in size to a bird, then the radar will see it. And vice versa, if the air defense system does not see a target with a certain size / EPR, then it will not see birds with comparable characteristics. Or do you think that some other air defense system will miraculously detect micro-UAV radars, but will not see birds?

              Later, Viktor Murakhovsky said that the complex showed serious shortcomings and flaws, covering the Khmeimim airbase in Syria from air attacks. According to him, the effectiveness of the "Pantsir" was only 19%, in contrast to it, the effectiveness of the Tor-M2 air defense system was 80%.

              Who will provide him with statistics? And how many "Pantsir" air defense systems are there in Syria, and how many "TOR" air defense systems? How many air defense systems "TOR" have been exported? Does the statistics refer to the Syrian Pantsir-S1 air defense missile systems or to the Russian Pantsir-S air defense missile systems?

              The disadvantages include the presence of a dead funnel in the upper hemisphere,

              But did he not look at the location of the detection and guidance radar in the TOR? It is similar to his Shell. Approximately the same corners and dead funnels.

              There is such an opinion:

              No less serious lack of constant “binding” of the 9М338 SAM to the radar of the self-propelled TOR-M2 / DT / KM self-propelled radar can be considered a loss of the ability to intercept a target that goes into the dead funnel above the complex (conical airspace sector that is not visible) guidance from the restriction of work in the elevation plane). In connection with the design features of the placement of radar weapons on a combat vehicle, all modifications of the "Thors" were faced with the "childhood disease", which consists in the impossibility of detecting, tracking and firing targets diving at ZRSK at an angle of 65 or more.

              And Murakhovsky's statement "duration of bringing to combat state" - this is generally nonsense for the air defense facility complex. After all, it is not hours that it unfolds - minutes.

              Well, another analytics from the "expert":
              After the plane crash on January 8, 2020 in Tehran, he gave an interview to RenTV in which he rejected Canada's version of a missile hitting a Ukrainian Boeing in Tehran. Already 2 days after that, Iran officially admitted that the plane was shot down by an air defense missile.
            4. +1
              6 July 2022 21: 05
              Quote: ROSS 42
              From the forest, vesto

              Tie in Wikipedia. The mention of this opus has long been mauvais ton.
        2. +1
          6 July 2022 18: 01
          1) efficiency was recorded for the first versions, which were sharpened by high-speed means, and against them there were low-speed self-made UAVs
          2) after updating the software, they quite well shoot down goals
          3) the price of a shot is incomparable
      3. +2
        5 July 2022 22: 17
        Quote: Barberry25
        well, given that the main point with the BC has been resolved and now instead of 12 missiles there are 24, this is already cool in itself
        There is an ZRPK "Pantsir-SM" vehicle, and a "Pantsir-SM" TBM vehicle loading to it. So, the loading vehicle got the opportunity to shoot, and an additional set is on it (24 missiles in total), but it does not have guns and sufficient means of guidance (it is commanded by the Pantsir-SM air defense system)
    2. +1
      6 July 2022 13: 23
      ... verification in real combat conditions is necessary ...
    3. 0
      17 September 2022 13: 53
      That's right, the layout can only be assumed based on calculations.

      The good news is that having a functional and successful Pantsit-S2 complex, they do not stop and develop new models, taking into account already combat developments.
  2. +9
    5 July 2022 16: 27
    Still a high base. you need something lower. Like the Belarusian chassis aphid Torov or our Bryansk tractors.
    1. +6
      5 July 2022 16: 48
      Quote: Dost
      Still a high base. you need something lower. Like the Belarusian chassis aphid Torov or our Bryansk tractors.

      BAZ looked very organic
  3. +1
    5 July 2022 16: 44
    Most importantly, the new rocket is capable of reaching up to 15 meters. This in many cases solves the problem of self-defense against air attacks.
    1. +2
      5 July 2022 17: 18
      Most importantly, the new rocket is capable of reaching up to 15 meters. This in many cases solves the problem of self-defense against air attacks.

      There is no need to deceive yourself ... only from a non-maneuvering target. But it's pretty good anyway.
      1. +1
        5 July 2022 18: 01
        I said in many cases. Neither Bayraktar TB2, nor the newer TAI Anka can work out of the ceiling. Moreover, on the ceiling they are still an ideal non-maneuverable target.
      2. +4
        5 July 2022 21: 31
        Quote: Cympak
        There is no need to flatter yourself ... only from a non-maneuvering target

        Are there maneuvers at 15000 m?
  4. AML
    +3
    5 July 2022 16: 47
    It is strange that they do not do it by analogy with truck tractors. All iron in the trailer. It seems to me that it would be cheaper and more versatile.
    1. +1
      5 July 2022 17: 52
      Quote: AML
      It seems to me that it would be cheaper and more versatile.

      I assume that the layout of the "Thor" is much more versatile and suitable for modernization.
  5. -1
    5 July 2022 16: 55
    As I understand it, now a transport-combat vehicle needs just a transport vehicle? or TZMka? why such difficulties? Why two types of launchers? Why turn a TZMka into a TBM?
    1. +4
      5 July 2022 17: 15
      Why two types of launchers?

      Savings on a very expensive surveillance radar and useless (as practice has shown) 2A38 guns
      By the way, the Buk / Viking air defense systems have long gone this way
      1. -3
        5 July 2022 17: 33
        I don’t see any savings, the production of two types of launchers will come out more expensive ...
      2. +2
        6 July 2022 06: 00
        Quote: Cympak
        useless (as practice has shown) guns 2A38

        30-mm projectiles with programmable fuses will go into the series, and real benefits will appear. Including, I think, economic.
    2. +1
      5 July 2022 17: 26
      Why turn a TZMka into a TBM?

      increase in BC as I understand it. But this machine is not completely autonomous.
      1. -1
        5 July 2022 17: 35
        here, here, in my opinion this is a complication of the structure
        1. +1
          6 July 2022 09: 22
          There is an opinion that this is how it should be even in military air defense. What is needed are remote radars for monitoring the air situation, separate command posts, separate launchers for missiles and separate carriers of the artillery unit.
    3. 0
      6 July 2022 11: 48
      As I understand it, one of the main tasks of the TBM is to load the Pantsir SM air defense system and itself with missiles brought in the back of a truck. In this case, the need for TZM generally disappears. Plus, if the need arises, he can install his missiles on the air defense system and independently leave for a new batch of missiles.
      By the way, this is a big plus, during the reflection of an attack, there is no need to waste time and charge the air defense system, you can drive up, stand in position and immediately, on the tip of the air defense system (which may already be empty), shoot down attacking targets.
  6. -4
    5 July 2022 16: 56
    One of them increases the range from the original 15-20 km to 40 km and allows you to attack "traditional" targets.
    Finally, they blocked the range of the latest NATO ATGMs.
    1. 0
      5 July 2022 17: 36
      Quote: bk0010
      Finally, they blocked the range of the latest NATO ATGMs.

      ATGMs are ATGMs, but there are no characteristics for capturing a target in terms of minimum height.
  7. +4
    5 July 2022 17: 12
    These are the launchers for 24 missiles (only in the "stealth" body kit) and should be installed as an air defense system on our small ships instead of "Gibok" and "Osa-M". Our answer is C-RAM
    1. 0
      5 July 2022 17: 37
      ... And without 10av for 100vi.
      Universal troughs, without fanaticism.
      Expedition - not all life in the hold, but for 1-2 months
  8. +5
    5 July 2022 17: 17
    Again, everyone is piled into a heap on one tower.

    At the Pantsir, with its massive turret, with missiles and radars, it is impossible to quickly deploy the turret to aim guns at targets at close range and high angular velocities. The guns operate on a separate optical channel and it is preferable for them to be part of separate light turrets, without unnecessary inertial load.
    It would be more optimal to have a division of the ZRPK into a radar machine, a machine with launchers for various types of missiles, and a machine with an anti-aircraft gun mount (ZPU). At the same time, the number of channels for hitting various targets and ammunition increases.
    It becomes possible to operate the radar and ZPU on the go.
    And the ZPU itself can be used separately, for the defense of small areas from being hit by mortar and rocket shells (and possibly from 76-155mm artillery)
    1. 0
      5 July 2022 17: 44
      Quote: Genry
      At the Pantsir, with its massive turret, with missiles and radars, it is impossible to quickly deploy the turret to aim guns at targets at close range and high angular velocities.

      Guns "Shell" are designed to destroy low-speed targets. This is probably why the designers decided to use this arrangement.
    2. +2
      5 July 2022 21: 38
      Quote: Genry
      It would be more optimal to have a division of the ZRPK into a radar machine, a machine with launchers for various types of missiles, and a machine with an anti-aircraft gun mount (ZPU). At the same time, the number of channels for hitting various targets and ammunition increases.
      It becomes possible to operate the radar and ZPU on the go.

      No, such a "collective farm" will not be able to work not only on the move, but also from short stops. It will be necessary to stop and arrange it before work.
  9. +1
    5 July 2022 17: 52
    When will it reach the TKB that it is not necessary to increase the portable BC, but the accuracy and guidance algorithms?
    1. +3
      5 July 2022 21: 39
      Quote: Devil13
      When will it reach the TKB that it is not necessary to increase the portable BC, but the accuracy and guidance algorithms?

      What's wrong with accuracy and guidance algorithms?
  10. AML
    +1
    5 July 2022 19: 21
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: AML
    It seems to me that it would be cheaper and more versatile.

    I assume that the layout of the "Thor" is much more versatile and suitable for modernization.

    Thor is also limited in size.
    And so we have a single system. The tractor today pulls the air defense system, and tomorrow the field kitchen. When the tractor is disabled, the air defense system is not lost, but simply transferred to another tractor. Including civil.
    Little space? No problem. Instead of a 20 foot trailer, use a 40 foot trailer. Yes, and the base is easier to play with.

    Well, yes, I think the tracked chassis can also be adapted. Some kind of mount for nickel and banzai
  11. +1
    5 July 2022 19: 40
    everything is just great, but one thing, but where will we get boxes for 4-axle Kamaz trucks, they are German
  12. +4
    5 July 2022 21: 23
    So, we correct article mistakes:
    In its front part (in the direction of missile launch) there is a characteristic antenna device of a target tracking radar (STS). This is a radar with AFAR, borrowed from a combat vehicle.

    What, nafig, AFAR in the guidance station of the mm range? This is a radar with a translucent type PFAR, it seems, taken from the Arctic version of the Pantsir. AFAR - SOC in Pantsir-SM.
    The main objectives of the Pantsir-SM project were to increase the firing range, ..

    Increasing the firing range was not the task of the Pantsir-SM project. The task of the Pantsir-SM was to increase the fire performance, which was solved by a significant increase in the aeroballistic characteristics of the missiles, and the increase in range was the result of an increase in the aeroballistic characteristics of the missiles.
    The Pantsir-SM combat vehicle, using standard radars, can detect air targets at ranges up to 75 km. With the help of the new STS and a promising long-range missile, it is capable of firing at targets at a range of 40 km and altitudes up to 15 km.

    Pantsir-SM - at altitudes up to 18 km.
  13. 0
    5 July 2022 22: 11
    Yearly review.
  14. +1
    5 July 2022 23: 23
    Why stubbornly not on the basis of BrAZ?
  15. -2
    6 July 2022 11: 03
    ... and the status of transport and combat is not yet clear.

    Because it turned out to be a crocodile. I would like to increase the ammunition load, we need a transport-loading vehicle. I would like to increase the number of simultaneously fired targets, you need to increase the channel. But the complex is short-range, that is, enemy artillery can easily reach it if it is detected. That is, he, in principle, should not stand still for any length of time. And here the TZM cannot shoot without BM, everything is put on supports, a whole fleet of compactly installed equipment is recruited right under the nose of the enemy. It is clear why the status of TZM is not clear.
    If it is not possible to increase the BM channel, it is easier to use a bunch of several BMs operating in the same network via a radio channel. They both disguise themselves and move separately, it is more difficult to hit them, and the TZM must have the means of quickly reloading missiles and their maximum supply, and also maneuver separately so as not to create clusters. Such a system is much more resistant to unguided munitions, and to detection too.
    1. +1
      6 July 2022 15: 29
      So after all, the Pantsir is an object positional air defense, and not a military one, he does not need to crawl with tanks off-road and shoot on the march, there is a TOR for this. And in a prepared position, with a large ammunition load of multi-purpose missiles on one vehicle, for operational cover of an object / direction / other air defense, it’s quite good for me
  16. 0
    6 July 2022 11: 41
    As I see from the sofa, tin. It's easier to give up artillery on the Shell, and have either 24 normal or 96 missiles against drones, or a combination of both. And TZM should be simple,
    conventional truck with a crane beam.
  17. 0
    18 August 2022 21: 44
    Apparently, a modernized radar will soon appear on a separate carrier and the original "SM shell" will disappear in this bundle (unnecessary 30mm cannon and unnecessary duplication of expensive radars if there are several vehicles). There will be only TBM + radar
    1. +1
      18 September 2022 19: 25
      Quote from Floke
      Apparently, a modernized radar will soon appear on a separate carrier and the original "SM shell" will disappear in this bundle (unnecessary 30mm cannon and unnecessary duplication of expensive radars if there are several vehicles). There will be only TBM + radar

      It won't, it doesn't make sense. BM will lose the ability to work on the move.
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      2. 0
        18 September 2022 20: 21
        Quote: Comet
        Quote from Floke
        Apparently, a modernized radar will soon appear on a separate carrier and the original "SM shell" will disappear in this bundle (unnecessary 30mm cannon and unnecessary duplication of expensive radars if there are several vehicles). There will be only TBM + radar

        It won't, it doesn't make sense. BM will lose the ability to work on the move.

        I used to think that only Thor can do this. accepted, thanks
  18. 0
    30 September 2022 22: 25
    Instead of a transport and combat vehicle, they could well make a trailer for a combat vehicle
    with a vertical launcher (6*6 or 6*8) for 36-48 cells.
    The ammunition load of one vehicle with a trailer would be enough to destroy a volley of MLRS Grad from 40 rockets.

    For remote control of the launch of missiles from a TLU (trailer) remote from the combat vehicle at 100-500 m, data transmission channels protected from enemy electronic warfare must be used.