Marines of the Ukrainian Navy: objective restrictions and forced demilitarization

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Graduation of young officers of the Marine Corps, 2016. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

The basis of the coastal troops of the Ukrainian Navy is the Marine Corps. In recent years, the command has been actively developing this type of troops, seeking to increase its combat effectiveness and make it the elite of the armed forces. However, the events of recent months have shown the real results of these processes. Despite all efforts, the capacity remained at an insufficient level, and forced demilitarization further reduced it.

The initial state


The marines are the backbone of the coastal troops of the Ukrainian Navy and are called upon to solve various tasks on the coast and in the coastal zone. It includes infantry, tank, artillery and support units and units. In addition, interaction with other forces and means of coastal defense is envisaged.



The Ukrainian marines are not distinguished by large numbers. At the beginning of this year, it served approx. 6 thousand people It is noteworthy that such indicators have been achieved only recently, based on the results of last year's recruitment and training of personnel. At the same time, according to some reports, far from all the needs of the troops were covered.

The organizational structure of the Marine Corps is quite simple. There is a command of the type of troops under the command of the Navy. He has two brigades and two separate battalions of marines under his command. These units and formations have all the necessary units, forces and means for various purposes.


Ukrainian troops in international exercises. Photo by the US Department of Defense

The 35th Separate Marine Brigade (35th Marine Corps) is based in the Odessa region. It includes three battalions, each of which includes a headquarters, three companies of marines on amphibious vehicles, as well as companies and platoons of reconnaissance, support, etc.

In the Nikolaev and Zaporozhye regions, as well as in the occupied territory of the DPR, units and subunits of the 36th Marine Corps were deployed. This brigade includes three battalions of marines, as well as a tank battalion, a brigade artillery group, an anti-aircraft battalion, companies of snipers, electronic warfare, RKhBZ, etc.

The 137th and 503rd separate marine battalions have their own headquarters and include two companies of marines and one air assault company. They also have two or three artillery batteries, anti-aircraft, engineering, etc. platoons. Support and supply units are provided.

Material part


For obvious reasons, the basis of the fleet of equipment and armaments of the Ukrainian marines until now were products of the old Soviet production. Attempts to independently modernize and re-equip did not give noticeable results. In 2014-15 foreign materiel began to enter the units, but even she could not radically change the situation.

Until recently, armored personnel carriers and combat vehicles of outdated models with amphibious capabilities, such as the BTR-60 or BTR-80, as well as the BMP-1, were the most mass-produced equipment of the Marine Corps. In recent years, the troops have received limited quantities of Cossack and Warta armored cars, but they have not had a significant impact on the overall condition of the fleet.


Ukrainian marines on exercises. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

The tank battalion of the 36th Marine Corps was armed with the main tanks T-64BV and T-80BV in the amount of approx. 70 units Apparently, these machines were built before the collapse of the USSR and were distinguished by their great age. Plans were reported to modernize or even replace such equipment, but real measures never followed.

Artillery battalions were also equipped with old weapons. They had D-20 and Hyacinth-B guns, as well as Gvozdika self-propelled guns. There were transportable mortars. Air defense of troops on the march and in positions was provided by ZSU-23-4 self-propelled guns. The exact number of artillery systems is unknown. The size of the units suggests that they had no more than a few dozen guns.

Support units and other structures had a certain amount of automotive and special equipment. This fleet was formed both at the expense of its own Ukrainian products, such as KrAZ trucks, and with the help of foreign supplies. In particular, in the mid-40s, the Marine Corps received up to XNUMX American HMMWV vehicles with weapons.

In the interests of the marines, landing ships and boats of the Navy could be used. Ukraine had a medium landing ship "Yuri Olefirenko" pr. 773 with the possibility of transferring and disembarking a company with weapons and equipment. There was also a landing craft "Svatovo" pr. 1176, carrying up to 20 people. or one tank. Small landing forces can be transported by various boats and motor boats of Ukrainian and foreign production.


Not the newest equipment on the range. Photo by the US Department of Defense

Forced demilitarization


Despite all the objective limitations, increased attention was paid to the development and training of the Marine Corps. This type of troops was considered as the elite of the armed forces of Ukraine and had to be able to solve special tasks. Since 2014, the acquired skills and abilities have been used in the course of the so-called. anti-terrorist operation. At the same time, as it turned out, the “elite” could not seriously influence the course of the battles.

It is now known that at the beginning of 2022 the Ukrainian army was preparing a major offensive in the Donbass, and all the main branches of the armed forces, including the marines, could be involved in it. However, they did not have time to start the offensive - the Russian Special Operation to protect Donbass began earlier. Various Ukrainian forces were at the forefront and for the first time faced a developed enemy in the face of a full-fledged army.

The limited capabilities and combat readiness of the Ukrainian marines were already evident in the first weeks of the Special Operation. Its units and formations tried to hold positions and various objects, but suffered losses and, with some luck, managed to retreat. In other cases, everything ended in defeat and capture or destruction.

There were several similar episodes of different scale, and the battles for the city of Mariupol are of the greatest interest. Ukrainian forces in the city included several thousand fighters, incl. a significant part of the personnel of the 36th Marine Corps. During the fighting, the Russian and Donetsk armies destroyed or captured more than half of this "garrison". The remaining manpower tried to hide in the territory of metallurgical enterprises - with a well-known result. Those who were not destroyed by constant blows preferred to surrender.


The logical result is the surrender of Ukrainian marines and nationalists in Mariupol. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Various companies and battalions of marines are still present at the fronts and are trying to defend themselves. However, the limited capabilities and small number of Ukrainian formations, as well as the complete superiority of the Russian army, lead to understandable results. Ukrainian marines are destroyed or surrender. In addition, plaintive appeals to the command for urgent assistance are regularly published, which remain unanswered.

It should be noted that the Ukrainian command tried to increase the potential of the Marine Corps through rearmament. Even at the stage of preparation for the attack on the Donbass, foreign weapon different types. After the start of the Russian Special Operation and the start of mass deliveries from abroad, the Marine Corps received new models of weapons and equipment. However, they did not manage to change the general situation.

Predictable outcome


Thus, in terms of real indicators, capabilities and potential, the Marine Corps of the Navy - despite the elite status and all the accompanying advertising - did not differ much from other Ukrainian troops, and in some areas was inferior to them. For a long time, the development of the Marine Corps was limited by a number of objective factors characteristic of the entire army of Ukraine. Subsequently, foreign aid appeared, but nothing fundamentally changed.

Since February, the constant and powerful fire impact of the Russian army has been added to all available factors. The Ukrainian armed forces constantly suffer losses in manpower, weapons and equipment. As a result of this, the Navy and the Air Force have already ceased to exist as a full-fledged combat-ready structure.

Given the size, numbers, and combat effectiveness of the Marine Corps, we can expect the same fate to await them. And this will be another success of our operation to demilitarize a dangerous neighbor and protect the friendly Donbass.
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  1. +6
    4 July 2022 05: 07
    It is necessary to naturally complete the demilitarization of the Ukrainian marines ... shock and assault military units in Ukraine should not exist in principle.
    1. +15
      4 July 2022 07: 11
      Ukraine should not exist in principle. If problems are eliminated, there will be no consequences.
      1. IVZ
        0
        4 July 2022 07: 37
        Under the circumstances, yes. Only if you do not change something in your policy, and internal too, you will have to clean up (eliminate) too much.
    2. -1
      4 July 2022 16: 21
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      It is necessary to naturally complete the demilitarization of the Ukrainian marines ... shock and assault military units in Ukraine should not exist in principle.

      Ukraine should not have access to the sea without any in principle. There is simply no sea in Ukraine. Yes, and there is no Ukraine in the current concept either.
  2. +11
    4 July 2022 05: 25
    More fun there. Odessa were considered Poroshenko’s personal guards, therefore they drank more than they served ... Ask about the sensational episode, how 4 boozers rushed AWOL, caught up, rammed the gates of the unit in a jeep, stuffed their faces and disarmed the checkpoint, then shot the nachkar. In Odessa, yes.
    And in Marika there was just a gang that had been shooting for all 8 years with Navoz, who was protecting whom.
    Ilita
    1. Eug
      +6
      4 July 2022 05: 46
      For Odessa - this is when the drop-lei on duty was forced to shoot through the wheels on their jeep? There was a rustle, but everything was somehow hushed up ...
      1. +3
        4 July 2022 15: 20
        Quote: Eug
        For Odessa - this is when the drop-lei on duty was forced to shoot through the wheels on their jeep? There was a rustle, but everything was somehow hushed up ...

        It was generally fun there - the bluebots who arrived pulled out a machine gun from the sentry at the checkpoint, and then kicked it out of the checkpoint door. In the meantime, the state of emergency, who had arrived by the time, tried to call those who had come in large numbers to order, other servicemen of the unit were cooperating with those who had arrived. And only when the jeep tried to rush from the gate deep into the location, opened fire from a Kalash on the wheels with a drop.
        Moreover, it turned out that the elite of the Ukrainian Navy stormed the checkpoint:
        drunken sailors who tried to storm the entrance of the base are fighters of the elite 801st separate detachment for combating underwater sabotage forces and means (801st OOBSPDSS). Two of them are management officers, a foreman of the detachment and a group commander.

        And on the territory of the unit, they tried to hide from the police.
        Two management officers, a foreman of the detachment and a group commander raided the unit around 05:00 on January 24, before that they had done a mischief on Zhukovsky Street, when they rammed a Mercedes-Benz in a Mitsubishi jeep with Polish numbers. The military sailors were very drunk and, threatening the driver with violence and a grenade, did not want to call the police and left
    2. +1
      4 July 2022 09: 57
      Quote: Cowbra
      And in Marika there was just a gang that had been shooting for all 8 years with Navoz, who was protecting whom.

      According to the last complaints of the “volyns” in an interview-interrogation, the manure still protected them, because. according to him, in the burrows of Azovstal, for more than 100 people they were given a little cereal and 6 cans of tuna per day, and the Natsiks themselves ate well, and the APU was afraid to say a word to the NGU ....
      1. +3
        4 July 2022 11: 54
        Quote: Gvardeetz77
        in the holes of Azovstal

        In the holes, yes, there is no one to protect - the question has disappeared. And before? In general, the West of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shot manure even before the attack on the city at the checkpoint - OPA! And in response, the Armed Forces of the MLRS covered them - OPA! It was already after February 24
        And with the Marines, they generally have a shootout almost every month, and so all 8 years.
        Yes, and Volyn sobbed that, according to old friendship, they should eat Manure like this - he would slobber a handout, and to the warehouse - no, no
  3. +9
    4 July 2022 05: 26
    The decline and collapse of the "Empire", in the 61st Brigade of the KSF, about 50% of the personnel were Ukrainians, most of the officers went to serve in Ukraine.
    1. +4
      4 July 2022 08: 45
      I served there in 2016 and I will say that a third of the brigade were Dagestanis, and in the officers (especially at the headquarters) there were about 10 people with the rank of major-lieutenant colonel, who after 2014 went over to our side, before serving in the Crimea. And the attitude of local officers towards them was ambivalent, since those who went over to our side changed their oath.
      1. +3
        4 July 2022 09: 02
        There were not many guys from the Caucasus, four officers and ensigns, sailors, there were two in the company, maybe 10 people in the battalion. Well, and these forelock renegades, the attitude towards them, even after a year, is bad, two of these became generals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, one has already been buried, burned down in a turntable over the Donbass, Kulchitsky is his last name, the second was the commander of 875 OBMP (2nd battalion), Ostapenko, like he was a military attache in Georgia, a major general.
        1. +2
          4 July 2022 13: 55
          Well, according to my observations, the main backbone of the highlanders was in the DShB and especially in the sports company, as well as in the communications company, contract soldiers. And so, according to my observations, the officers of the brigade are combat, well-coordinated and friendly (the commanders of snipers and scouts, my countrymen, were especially cheerful)
          1. +1
            4 July 2022 14: 17
            In my time, there was no sports company, a company of snipers, I began to serve under the USSR.
      2. +3
        4 July 2022 11: 09
        Quote: Marine63
        I served there in 2016 and I will say that a third of the brigade were Dagestanis

        Mmmmm...in Ukrainian marines - 1/3 Dagestanis ???
        Do you confuse anything??
        1. 0
          4 July 2022 13: 51
          You are confusing this, here we are talking directly about the 61st Brigade of the Northern Fleet.
          1. +4
            4 July 2022 15: 25
            Quote: Marine63
            You are confusing

            I can't be confused - I don't know..
            Was discussed UKRAINIAN marines - suddenly bam, Dagestanis ...
            with what fright they switched to OUR request ...
            1. +1
              4 July 2022 15: 32
              Well, the first note was given by tatarin1972, when in the comments he wrote about the national composition of the 61st Marine Brigade, but I, as a person who served in it, could not pass by and not insert my five cents)
  4. +4
    4 July 2022 05: 35
    To have such shipyards and not build a normal fleet for yourself! The Soviet legacy was used to the maximum!
  5. +6
    4 July 2022 05: 49
    look at the first photo Graduation of young officers of the Marine Corps, 2016. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. And this is the elite? And is this a release? They couldn't even give them uniforms and shoes! Well, what is the "elite", such are the results.
    In general, knowing the state of the Ukrainian Navy, the name "marines" sounds like a mockery.
    1. +3
      4 July 2022 06: 16
      Quote: Egoza
      "marine corps" sounds like a mockery.

      Ukrainian marines are destroyed or surrender.
      That's where we'll end! recourse
    2. +3
      4 July 2022 20: 41
      Quote: Egoza
      And is this a release? They couldn't even give them uniforms and shoes! Well, what is the "elite", such are the results.

      Why did they write? I served in the mid-90s, there was a cooler uniform ... "form 8, whatever ... we wear it," which did not prevent the MP RF two Chechen companies from passing with dignity ....
      If there is no fighting spirit, then no form will help ...
  6. +2
    4 July 2022 05: 59
    Quote: Eug
    For Odessa - this is when the drop-lei on duty was forced to shoot through the wheels on their jeep? There was a rustle, but everything was somehow hushed up ...

    Only wheels-wheels, and they shot him himself. And for sure, hushed up, I say the same - Poroshenko's personal troops
  7. +6
    4 July 2022 06: 22
    Let Banderastan not bother, soon it will not have shores, therefore, marines are not needed for nothing.
    1. 0
      13 July 2022 01: 56
      Quote: Ros 56
      soon he will not have shores, therefore, the Marines are not needed for nothing.


      How did it happen? The ancient Ukrainians dug the Black Sea, so I think let the current ones pull themselves together and start digging whatever else is in the remaining territory. Well, if not the sea, then at least some kind of quarry. Here are the marines and the water surface.
  8. +1
    4 July 2022 07: 51
    It was always surprising that there were such a number of military units of the Marine Corps in the Armed Forces, as well as airborne landing units. And I thought something like that, there is no sea with a gulkin’s nose, there is no airborne landing craft, there is no transport aviation, there are no systems for dropping equipment and experience in mass landings, in fact there are no tasks for these parts in the profile either. But here are the parts
    1. +2
      4 July 2022 09: 43
      Because the Americans have Marines, and we have Marines, which means they should have had Marines for themselves.
      At least some.
      Well, that's what they got.
    2. +1
      4 July 2022 20: 56
      Quote: FoBoss_V
      I was always surprised by the presence of such a number of military units of the Marine Corps in the Armed Forces, as well as airborne landing units.

      After the loss of the Crimea, such a number of MPs for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is redundant, about the DShV you are wrong from all the brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, only the 25th was an airborne brigade with special equipment and training for landing from the VTA, the rest of the brigades and regiments were purely airmobile, for landing from AA helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ukraine, like the Russian Federation, has a vast territory and without airmobile units in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I’m sure that if it weren’t for the SVO, then the DShV of the Armed Forces of Ukraine grew into combat formations, and now they are inferior in numbers and combat strength only to the USA and the Russian Federation. ..
      In the war with the Russian military machine, all light infantry formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (MP, airmobile, mountain, jaeger) will be exterminated .... and if the empirialists do not protect them, then they do not need Ukraine with a strong and highly mobile army, even to confront the Russian Federation. ..
      1. +1
        18 August 2022 02: 07
        Quote: Lara Croft
        In the war with the Russian military machine, all light infantry formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (MP, airmobile, mountain, jaeger) will be exterminated ....

        It was assumed that such troops would pacify food riots and help the United States in local wars around the world. Ukraine relied on pocket gangs of oligarchs and did not predict the organized resistance of Russians with the support of the Russian state. Excessive Russophobia contributed to the transformation of Ukraine into a black hole in the waste of Western resources. After 2014, the United States refused to create wars that do not directly affect the interests of Russia and do not harm it.
  9. +2
    4 July 2022 08: 25
    There should not be such a state as Ukraine! Look at Europe, which is tearing up every century, This should not happen either, and if it were not for the Jews in Soviet power, it would not have happened! But thanks to Gorbachev and the hedgehog with him for everything that happens!
  10. +6
    4 July 2022 09: 17
    About nothing actually article
  11. 0
    4 July 2022 09: 37
    How many more days will the APU take? The resistance must be based on trained personnel, and the defense is already sent to the front.
    So far, everything is based on massive propaganda, but this will soon end, no one believes Zelibobe anymore and they start asking questions. Therefore, all opposition channels were closed, those who disagreed were shot, and opposition politicians were expelled.
    On the tales of Washington, repression within the country, I think they will last another month
    1. 0
      4 July 2022 09: 50
      Well, unfortunately, not days, but many months. See how slow the advance is. All are still quite strong and organized and should not be underestimated.
      1. +2
        4 July 2022 13: 01
        Quote: FoBoss_V
        Well, unfortunately, not days, but many months. See how slow the advance is.

        They go slowly due to the fact that they have to smoke out their fortified areas (which were built all 8 years), take cities, leaving life to the civilian population, if possible, not to destroy everything in a row.
      2. 0
        4 July 2022 21: 02
        Quote: FoBoss_V
        All are still quite strong and organized and should not be underestimated.

        I remember the uncle on the "zombie box" somewhere in March said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine had lost control, and most importantly, their actions were not united by a single plan and goals, wow ... and you ....
        strong and organized
  12. 0
    4 July 2022 10: 02
    How do the marines of Russia and Ukraine differ from each other on the front line, when there are tens of kilometers to the sea? The truth is behind us and that's it !!!
  13. +1
    4 July 2022 12: 10
    "Elite status" - who is it about? About the Waffen-SS? This is a consumable item. Enough already to glorify the Euro-Nazis and their accomplices.
    This is a great domestic special operation.
    In 1942, someone would have tried to write to give compliments to the SS troops or even to the "Luftwaffe elite": "How wonderful they bombed our train with refugees! Ours could not do that ...", etc.
    "Let noble rage..." Who else remembers this anthem? Raise your hands, heirs of Victory.
    Am I supposed to defend my homeland?
  14. +3
    4 July 2022 12: 32
    "Now it is known that at the beginning of 2022 the Ukrainian army was preparing a major offensive in the Donbass" - what facts support this version?
    1. +2
      4 July 2022 21: 06
      Quote: ares1988
      "Now it is known that at the beginning of 2022 the Ukrainian army was preparing a major offensive in the Donbass" - what facts support this version?

      Like a child .... it’s clear where ... it’s been told to you in many YouTubes, uncles say that they found operational maps of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, here and there ...
      You are apparently an angry and distrustful forum member, it's time to change ...
      1. +5
        5 July 2022 07: 17
        Well, the uncle on YouTube is a so-so source. One guy says one thing, another another. I can also start a channel and say the third there. And I will also be an uncle from YouTube.
        About "evil" - this is unlikely. "Incredulous" - of course, I try to critically evaluate information, and not take it on faith.
        If you have specific facts and time / desire: I will be happy to talk about this issue.
  15. 0
    4 July 2022 13: 45
    It's time to dismantle the collective farm, called Outskirts.
  16. +1
    4 July 2022 13: 56
    guys, I understand everything, patriotism and all that ... but what about the comparison with our marines? For example, with my native 61st brigade? Let me remind you that we were loved for parachutes, and for scuba gear, and for daily 15 km, and for hand-to-hand combat with full gear up to the throat in water (and try, comrade from the Airborne Forces, slam the enemy in such a situation) ...
  17. -1
    4 July 2022 18: 03
    Marine infantry, mountain assault, airborne. All assault, NATO. Sheer ambition. Ilita.
  18. +2
    4 July 2022 20: 26
    The Ukrainian marines are not distinguished by large numbers. At the beginning of this year, it served approx. 6 thousand people

    Dear author, what size should the Navy have in the absence of an internal combustion engine and a full-fledged Navy ...
    For comparison, the USSR, having two ocean-going military fleets, had a MP of 12,5 thousand people, in periodicals you can find out the number and combat composition of the USMC ....
    Two infantry fighting vehicles and two infantry fighting vehicles are excess forces for the Ukrainian Navy, unless they initially wanted to use it as an elite light infantry ...
  19. +2
    5 July 2022 09: 10
    Ryabov in his style
    Lots of beeches. Zero information.
    We need more beeches!
  20. -1
    6 July 2022 02: 12
    I don’t understand why Ukraine needs all this “zoo”? marines, mountain infantry, airborne, ... panzer-grenadier not far off, apparently. Well, just make motorized infantry if you are jarred by motorized shooters. Why this variegation and vinaigrette in subordination, supply, etc.?
  21. 0
    6 July 2022 19: 49
    And if we wring out the last sea from the lads, we will have to become river infantry ..
  22. 0
    9 July 2022 15: 35
    ".... in terms of real indicators, capabilities and potential, the marines of the Ukrainian Navy - despite the elite status and all the accompanying advertising - did not differ much from other Ukrainian troops" Is it from this elite that the political officer of the marines company, who in Mariupol raped his wife in front of her husband, and then shot him. Now he sings like a nightingale in jail and admits his guilt in full, what punishment does he deserve? What country - such and the elite of the army, such are the political officers, political officers and commissars of its army. I remember in 2014 in Feodossia the 1st battalion of the MP Naval Forces of Ukraine with a dozen NATO certificates proudly sang the anthem of Ukraine and prepared for a breakthrough on equipment with deployed yellow-black ensigns, and then the most stubborn dill patriots from its composition were tied with laces by the reinforced company of the MTR of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as She loaded the sheep onto Kamaz trucks and took them beyond Perekop, and two-thirds continued to serve under the Russian flag. By the way, the 36th coastal defense brigade of the coastal troops of the Naval Forces of Ukraine in Perevalnoye itself raised the flags of the Russian Federation, for 8 years, of course, a lot has changed in its composition and weapons, but the main backbone of the personnel remained the same - from the Crimeans. This formation of the Black Sea Fleet, renamed the 126th Coastal Defense Brigade, showed itself excellently during the NMD and was recently awarded the Guards rank by decree of the President. In fact, after 2014, the main backbone of the sailors of the Ukrainian Navy, including the Marines, remained in the Crimea, and an attempt to revive the MP Navy under the same numbers of military units, filling them with Nazis, cannot be called particularly successful. If as part of the so-called. the elites of the Ukrainian Navy turn out to be outright sadistic criminals and even foreign mercenaries - then what kind of elite is this.
  23. 0
    8 August 2022 08: 01
    Yes, the 404s no longer have a fleet, but the remnants of the air force are still flying. In the ranks of the Su-25 and Mi-8 at least. They hide well and attack from ambushes. The pilots are not bad, but probably not enough of them.
  24. 0
    27 September 2022 10: 27
    Quote: iouris
    Am I supposed to defend my homeland?

    If you don't want to defend, there's nothing to splash with saliva.