Machine gun from the Count and Archduke

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Machine gun "Salvator-Dormus" Mitrailleuse M / 93

Very accurately suggests the gunner,
And "maxim", like lightning strikes.
"Well, well, well!" - says the gunner,
"Well, well, well!" the machine gun says.

Lyricist V. Dykhovichny

stories about weapons. It is well known that dentists, photographers and merchants also took on the creation of firearms in the XNUMXth century. Although there were many hereditary gunsmiths among its creators. But there were not so many titled among them. The reason is class and pride in belonging to a certain “caste”. It was unthinkable that in the same tsarist Russia, a representative of the military caste or an official would go to the patent office, draw plans, set up production, that is, would go down the social ladder. That is, an officer could, by order, or even at his own request, engage in the creation of new weapons, but this was regarded either as a sad necessity - “an order is an order”, or as a whim, but then this “blissful” should have been a rich man, that is “That’s how he wanted it!”


Isn't it true that the design looks very ... funny. This “machine” is not similar to any other machine gun. Museum of the military stories, Vienna. Photo forgottenweapons.com

Perhaps, the attitude towards military invention, except for Russia, was just as negative in only one European country - in Austria-Hungary, where, on the one hand, the military elite of Austria set the tone, and on the other, the cavalry and cavalrymen of Hungary, and both of them were snobbish enough. But there are no rules without exceptions, and the results of some of these "exceptions" have been very interesting. Here is one such “exception” - the 1893 Salvator-Dormus machine gun of the year, we will tell you today.



Machine gun from the Count and Archduke
Scheme of the machine gun "Salvator-Dormus". It clearly shows the “gravity magazine” for the cartridges that were fed into the machine gun due to its own weight, and, which is especially interesting, the oiler device for lubricating the cartridges. For each such machine gun, when refueling, 3 liters of water and ... 0,5 liters of gun oil were required!

It was developed by Colonel and Count of the Austro-Hungarian Army Georg von Dormus and Archduke Karl Salvator in 1888, but they presented the finished model in 1890.


Scheme of the operation of the bolt mechanism of the machine gun. Above - the trunk is locked. Below - the trunk is open

Archduke Karl Salvator was born on April 30, 1839 in Florence, his family belonged to one of the branches of the Habsburg dynasty, but in his youth he received a military technical education, and then became interested in designing new types of weapons. As for Georg von Dormus, he was born on January 7, 1853 in the city of Olmutz in a military family. He graduated from the Military Technical Academy, and then in 1881 became a teacher at the Technical Military Academy in Mödling (Austria). Just then, the son of Karl Salvator, Leopold, also studied there, and Major Georg von Dormus became his teacher. And the son, most likely, told his father about him, and, apparently, he told it in such a way that Karl Salvator wanted to get to know him. How and where their acquaintance happened is unknown, but it happened, and as a result, these two, at first glance, very different people began to work together. Since 1884, their names appear in patents for new types of firearms, among which was the machine gun patented in 1888, which they created in defiance of the Maxim machine gun. And already in 1893, their machine gun was adopted by the army, and in 1894 and fleet Austria-Hungary as Mitrailleuse M/93. And since its mass production was carried out by the Skoda company in Pilsen, it also became known under the designation Skoda M1893.


Sectional machine gun mechanism. The shutter and the lever locking it, the extractor are clearly visible, and below the pendulum lever with a load in the form of a disk (to the left of the handle). Military History Institute, Prague

The performance characteristics of the machine gun were as follows:
Weight: 20 kg including water and oil. Length: 1070 mm. Barrel length: 525 mm. Magazine capacity: 20-30 rounds. Cartridge: 8x50R. Bullet speed: 618 m/s Rate of fire: 180-300 rounds per minute. The pedestal installation for the Navy weighed 220 kg and had a 6-mm bulletproof armor shield. Sight graduation: 1600 steps.


Sectional diagram of the shutter: C - shutter; D - supporting its lever; C1 - drummer lever; C7 - drummer lever spring

The first thing that catches your eye when comparing this machine gun with the Maxim machine gun is ... weight. It seems that it also has a casing for water, but the machine gun as a whole weighs 7 kg less than its "big brother". However, if we turn to its device, then the differences will be completely striking! First of all, the Maxim automatics operated due to the recoil of the moving barrel. Since the barrel passed through a tank of water, this required the presence of seals, seals, in a word, everything that takes a lot of time and effort during maintenance. On a Salvator-Dormus machine gun, the barrel would be motionless, that is, the shutter, like in many pistols, was ... free! And not just free, but also swinging! And under quite strong cartridges 8x50R.


Infantry version of the M1893 machine gun on a tripod and with a shield

It is known that the shutter machine gun "Maxim" was very complex and required very precise machining. And no wonder he appeared in England. It is unlikely that it could have been produced at that time with the required quality somewhere else. But Salvator and Dormus were able to create an automation that was simpler than Maxim's, but quite efficient. Their shutter was in the form of an L-shaped lever and moved back and forth when firing. Another L-shaped lever propped it up, sliding along the curly surface of the shutter. This lever was connected to a powerful coil spring housed in a tube behind the receiver. By the way, it was also possible to attach an additional butt to it.


Another diagram of the machine gun "Salvator-Dormus". On the left is a pack device for cartridges. On the right - the work of the pendulum lever. You can clearly see the hole through which spent cartridges fell down from the bolt box

Beneath this lever was a rate-of-fire regulator pendulum with an adjustable weight that oscillated as the machine gun fired. The load moved along the bar and was fixed on it. The lower the load, the stronger the amplitude of swinging the lever, the more time it takes, and therefore the longer the reloading cycle lasts. The higher the load, the faster the pendulum moves back and forth and the more often the machine gun shoots. The adjustment range was from 180 to 300 rounds per minute.


The bolt part of the machine gun "in all its glory." Pay attention to the noticeable recesses on the pendulum lever with the load, for its reliable fixation. Museum of Military History, Vienna. Photo forgottenweapons.com

That is, in fact, it was another “potato digger”, like the 1895 Browning machine gun of the year. Only his lever moved under the barrel, and the powder gases flowing from it threw it away. At the Salvator-Dormus, the lever swayed under its breech, which, of course, was not very convenient for the shooter. But on the other hand, the very possibility of adjusting the rate of fire really liked the Austro-Hungarian military, who, like the military of many other countries of that time, did not spare money for braids and ceremonial sewing on uniforms, but were very zealous about the consumption of cartridges when shooting!


Since the amplitude of the pendulum lever was quite large, and it was quite long, not every machine was suitable for it. At the beginning, this one was used, wheeled, with a high shield, in the fashion of that time!

The M1893 was simpler and cheaper to manufacture than the Maxim machine gun. The weakest point of its design was the open gravity-fed magazine, which caused cartridge feed delays from time to time. In addition, in order for the sleeves to be easily extracted from it, the cartridges had to be lubricated. Therefore, next to the store, an oil dish was also strengthened on it. A spring-loaded rod passed through it. Each next cartridge, before falling into the barrel, pressed this rod and received a drop of oil! No oil - and the machine gun usually jammed. Of course, Maxim also needed oil, but Salvator-Dormus consumed it in very large quantities, and besides, dirt very easily stuck to oiled surfaces!

The first baptism of fire of a machine gun took place in 1900 during the Chinese Boxer Rebellion. Then the cruiser "Zenta" delivered these machine guns to China, and they helped to protect the embassy of Austria-Hungary in Beijing. The M1893 functioned well and remained in service with Austria-Hungary until 1918, but was gradually replaced by the more advanced Schwarzlose 1907/12 machine gun.


Soldiers of the Austro-Hungarian army with M1893 machine guns. Many have cartridge packs in their hands, which were used for faster loading of the magazine of this machine gun.

Skoda engineers periodically improved the M1893. So, to the very first sample with an air-cooled barrel, a 3-liter water-cooling tank was added. Moreover, if the Maxim and most of its analogues used just a cylinder with water with filling and draining, then the Salvator-Dormus machine gun had a system with a circulation pump and an additional tank. This made it possible to ensure a constant supply of fresh cold water to the barrel for cooling and not to create a treacherous cloud of steam during prolonged firing. The "gravity store" was replaced with a belt feed. The pendulum rate of fire control system has also been redesigned for a higher rate of fire and is now consistently firing at 300 rounds per minute.


Skoda M1909

In 1909, Skoda engineers completely redesigned the M1902 so that it could compete with the Schwarzlose machine gun, which was adopted by the monarchy in 1905. In the M1909, an oiler was again added, which increased the rate of fire to 425 rounds per minute. The belt feed system used a 250-round fabric belt that entered the left side of the receiver and exited from the top. However, the tape system did not completely eliminate power problems. By the way, in the USA in 1894 this machine gun was also tested, they fired 600 rounds of ammunition, but they did not show much interest in it.
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  1. +3
    18 June 2022 05: 11
    The machine gun in those days was a really formidable weapon. Especially in those cases when it was impossible to use artillery.
    1. +5
      18 June 2022 06: 15
      Yes, then they considered it to be artillery and put it on gun carriages like artillery. The understanding that a machine gun was an infantry weapon came much later, somewhere at the beginning of the First World War. And even then they continued to believe that machine guns could and should be able to fire from closed positions, like howitzers.
      1. +3
        18 June 2022 11: 01
        Good afternoon, colleague! hi
        Yes, then he was considered for artillery

        I agree with you, but only in part, for the most part this applies to the generals of any army in the world, who, as you know, "are always preparing for the last war." But there were people who immediately understood the true purpose of the new formidable weapon and immediately used it for its intended purpose. I mean the events in South Africa in the second half of the XNUMXth century, when the "volunteers" of Cecil Rhodes, having five Maxim machine guns, in a battle with the army of Lobengula, literally mowed down the attacking Ndebel warriors by the hundreds. Nobody thought about artillery, the machine gun was used exclusively as an infantry weapon, for which, in fact, it was originally intended.
        1. +3
          18 June 2022 13: 12
          Greetings Konstantin hi
          You are absolutely right, tactics were developed much earlier.

          Actually, with the advent of this machine ...
          1. +2
            18 June 2022 13: 37
            Hi Aleksey! smile
            I agree, "Gatling" was the first word in this direction.
            1. +3
              18 June 2022 19: 40
              Automation with a free shutter in a machine gun under a powerful cartridge !!!
              Well, no hepa yourself. I hadn't heard of this before.
              I wonder how much this shutter weighed?
              And how fast did it wear out?
              1. 0
                7 October 2022 10: 11
                To call a "free" shutter, which is supported by a lever, to put it mildly, is difficult. It’s just that the lever is not where it is in the DShK, and there is no hinge, like the P-08, but this is a lever shutter with inertial unlocking, thereby a small weight. There is also a weight in the Benelli gun, just not on a stick from below, but in the bolt.
                1. 0
                  7 October 2022 12: 36
                  Quote: eule
                  To call a "free" shutter, which is supported by a lever, to put it mildly, is difficult

                  A "free shutter" is a shutter that is not fixed rigidly, but slides from recoil, only the bullet has time to fly out of the barrel before the sleeve leaves the barrel.
                  And how this free-sliding braking is provided - by the mass of the shutter, friction, or even a lever with an adjustable pendulum load, these are nuances.
            2. +1
              18 June 2022 21: 15
              Kostya, Alexei, good evening. I know the Gatling existed, but at what time?
              I thought that the mtralies were almost "the same age" as a machine gun
              1. +1
                18 June 2022 21: 58
                Gatling filed a patent for his shotgun in 1862, Maxim presented his machine gun in 1883, and for a while, in different armies of the world, they literally existed side by side. So you're practically right.
                1. +2
                  19 June 2022 09: 58
                  I remember mitrailleuse from the movie: "3 donkeys for sister Sarah."
                  It takes place in the 10s of the 20th century, already the "machine gun era"
                  1. +1
                    19 June 2022 12: 18
                    In the cinema, they will show you whatever you want, I doubt that by 1910 mitrailleuses would remain in the armies.
                    1. +1
                      19 June 2022 12: 30
                      Regarding 1910, theoretically, mtralezes could remain, somewhere in the arsenal. I read somewhere that the overcoats from the times of the REV were in storage, back in 1998-2000! So the mitraliasis, somewhere in Muhosk, may lie in 1910
                      1. +2
                        19 June 2022 14: 58
                        Quote: vladcub
                        Regarding 1910, theoretically, mtralezes could remain, somewhere in the arsenal.

                        Not only.
                        The five-barreled 37mm Hotchkiss cannon is actually the same mitrailleuse with a rotating block of barrels. It was limitedly used even in WWI due to the lack of automatic guns. Basically, of course, at sea.
      2. 0
        4 July 2022 14: 14
        Using machine guns from closed positions is aerobatics. If bullets retain lethality up to 4 km. Germany taught its machine gunners this.
    2. +5
      18 June 2022 06: 36
      Human talent does not depend on origin! Just what is the BARON of Italian origin Roberto Bartini, who entered the history of the aircraft industry of the USSR.
    3. +4
      18 June 2022 08: 09
      That is, in fact, it was another “potato digger”, like the 1895 Browning machine gun of the year.
      The author: Vyacheslav Shpakovsky


      The Salvator-Dormus machine gun had another similarity to the Browning potato digger.
      Not even with a prototype, but with a demonstrator of Browning's idea.
      This is a top-mounted box magazine.

      Browning modified an 1873 Winchester rifle chambered in .44 Win with black powder.
      Powder gases from the barrel interacted with the Henry bracket, and the rifle was automatically reloaded.
      Above the receiver of the rifle, John Browning added a magazine for several dozen rounds.


      Winchester Model 1873, the great progenitor of the Browning 1895 machine gun



      Browning patent (1895).
      7 years later than Salvator-Dormus


      The patent description does not indicate whether the store is "gravitational", or with a spring,
      for "automatic feeding of cartridges".
      Original text from the description:
      The magazine P contain a column of cartridges to be automatically supplied to the arm
      1. +1
        18 June 2022 11: 03
        Good morning, Michael! hi
        Thanks for the info, I didn't know about this before. smile
        1. +2
          18 June 2022 11: 28
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Good morning, Michael!

          Good
          Please.
          After reading the article, associations arose.
          I checked and here is the result.
          1. +1
            18 June 2022 11: 31
            Here you know how to work with the material. And there is no desire to make an article on this topic? It would be very nice.
        2. +2
          19 June 2022 14: 51

          Something like this.
          1. 0
            19 June 2022 14: 56
            Funny design. smile hi
  2. +2
    18 June 2022 06: 19
    Quote: Nagan
    The understanding that a machine gun was an infantry weapon came much later, somewhere at the beginning of the First World War. And even then they continued to believe that machine guns could and should be able to fire from closed positions, like howitzers.

    So when machine guns began to be installed on biplanes and mowed down marching columns of infantry with them, it was understood that they would also be used in aviation.
  3. +3
    18 June 2022 11: 50
    Quote: Sea Cat
    And there is no desire to make an article on this topic

    There is a desire, there is no time and health (

    Maybe Vyacheslav plans to develop his theme?
    1. +1
      18 June 2022 13: 30
      I sincerely wish you good health and, if possible, time to do what you love. smile drinks
      1. +1
        18 June 2022 14: 38
        Quote: Sea Cat
        I sincerely wish you good health

        Thank you, mutually!
  4. +1
    18 June 2022 11: 55
    So that's what you are, real
    "Cuckoo-clock" :-)))
    Surprisingly light weight and
    simple design easy
    are explained by the lack
    tape feeder,
    and most importantly, EXTREMELY low
    rate of fire...
    Surely, with modern
    average
    600...700...800 rds/min.
    this system work
    Basically it can't!!!
    I don't even mention already
    the same lawnmower
    Gruner / Horn
    with the crazy
    1800 rds/min
    with a light shutter...
    1. +3
      18 June 2022 14: 42
      Quote: Sharikov Polygraph Poligrafovich
      So that's what you are, real
      "Cuckoo-clock" :-)))


      Not impressed with the HK G11 cuckoo? wink
      1. 0
        18 June 2022 18: 40
        Only if the herrs
        Heckler with Koch all
        "Cuckoo-clock"
        get mixed up inside
        products, then in this
        almost everything
        mentioned is located
        I think it's right outside :-)))
  5. +2
    18 June 2022 13: 35
    Vyacheslav, hello and thank you! smile
    I liked the article very much, although I have known about this machine gun for a long time and in detail, but it was still pleasant to read. good
    Then our Mikhail Mr. X had a good idea, can you take it? smile

    Mister X
    Today, 11: 50
    NEW
    +1
    Quote: Sea Cat
    And there is no desire to make an article on this topic

    There is a desire, there is no time and health (

    Maybe Vyacheslav plans to develop his theme?
    1. +1
      18 June 2022 21: 28
      Kostya, V. Oh, can answer in the same way: "no time" and yes health.
      Who cares, but after 42 I realized that "the train left" and then old age and sores
      1. +2
        18 June 2022 21: 52
        Hello, Glory. smile

        "the train has left" and further old age and sores


        It's you in vain, life is good even after seventy, take my word for it.
        If you haven't read it, read The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham. As one blind girl said: "Life is beautiful, even this."
        1. +2
          19 June 2022 10: 01
          She's right: you have to look for the positive in everything.
  6. +2
    18 June 2022 17: 14
    By the way, in the USA in 1894 this machine gun was also tested, they shot 600 rounds, but they did not show much interest in it.


    It’s not that the Americans didn’t show interest in this machine gun, it’s just that there were no cartridges for full-fledged tests. Not a long excerpt from the test report;

    " It was not possible to make any test of the action of the mechanism when it was exposed to dust or rain, with damaged magazines. Therefore, a positive opinion about the merits of this machine gun in these circumstances cannot be formed. However, the mechanism appears to be somewhat fragile and may fail under harsh field conditions, although the spokesman claimed that the two machine guns were tested with 40 rounds each (smokeless powder) in hot and cold weather, and when they were exposed to dust and rain, and that they successfully passed the test. For permanent fortifications or other fixed positions where the machine gun can be serviced and maintained in good condition, it can be a useful weapon in repelling assault troops. Its suitability for adoption in comparison with other weapons of a similar nature can only be determined by a much more thorough test than was actually carried out during the test mentioned above.."
  7. 0
    18 June 2022 21: 22
    "" was simpler and cheaper "however" maxim ", its variations, turned out to be more perfect
  8. +2
    18 June 2022 22: 26
    It was inconceivable that in the same tsarist Russia a representative of the military caste or an official would go to the patent office, draw plans, organize production,

    And they went and adjusted:
    Alexander Alexandrovich Popov. (shipbuilder)
    Father and son Baranovsky. (hard to enumerate)
    Prince Boris Borisovich Golitsyn (electromagnetic seismograph)
    Alexey Pavlovich Davydov (mine weapons and PUAO systems)
    Nikolai Alexandrovich Romeiko-Gurko (electric clock on the Eiffel tower)
    Nikolai Ivanovich Putilov (Is it necessary to list?)
    Pavel Matveyevich Obukhov ... after all, Peter Alekseevich Romanov, he is also the Antichrist, he is also the Great.
    You also say that there were no scientists from the village :)))
    1. -1
      19 June 2022 14: 10
      Ivan, against the background of THOUSAND civil and military officials, these are drops in the ocean. Not typical!
      1. +1
        19 June 2022 14: 33
        Quote: kalibr
        Ivan, against the background of THOUSAND civil and military officials, these are drops in the ocean.

        So after all, the archdukes also did not make all the machine guns :))) As well as the French marquises and English lords.
        Quote: kalibr
        Not typical!

        In fact, it's still typical.
        Do you remember Goncharov's "Ordinary History"? There, Pyotr Ivanovich Aduev, who is quite an official, among other things, has a couple of small factories. (Porcelain and some other, I don’t remember). Or the father of the "red count" Ignatiev, Alexei Petrovich. And a full general from the cavalry, and a governor-general and a member of the State Council, as well as the chairman of the Special Meeting, and he, among other things, "Exemplary Estate" in which he introduced new types of tillage, ordered seeders, winnowers from abroad, and so on. And in fact, there were quite a few such landowners. Enterprises were opened, new crafts were started ...
        1. 0
          19 June 2022 14: 40
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          And in fact, there were quite a few such landowners. Enterprises were opened, new crafts were started ...

          Landlords, yes. Officials are not.
  9. +3
    19 June 2022 05: 06
    Vickers machine gun with system water cycle for cooling - used in the desert.
    soldier
  10. 0
    28 August 2022 03: 51
    And yet, the mechanism of reloading is not clear. Gas outlet? It doesn't seem to be visible. Movable table? No, it's hardwired. What acts on the pendulum and how is it tied to the locking mechanism? And where is the trigger itself?