"Nagant" around the world

Here he is - the "bad man" Ataman Lagutin performed by the artist Igor Kvash in the film "Property of the Republic". With a gun...

“We have mobilized three rooms, one after the other. The recovered Chubarkov was placed in the first. I was very happy for him. Commissioner too.
“Now we will be with you and the natives,” said the commissar, taking off his belt with a holster and laying it on the table. - Would you like a book to read?
- And then! I said, looking at the revolver. - Loaded?
- And then! the commissar replied. "Don't touch."
"Konduit and Shvambrania" Lev Kassil

The first revolver "revolver" adopted for service: M1878. The revolver was produced in different finishes. There were blued copies. They were also nickel plated. Length 270 mm, barrel length 140 mm, empty weight 1100 g, bullet speed 200 m/s, effective range 50 m. Photo by littlegun.be

stories about weapons. It just so happened that in Russian colloquial speech the word "revolver" even began to be used as a synonym for the word revolver, and even a pistol. The reason is the wide distribution and popularity of this type of weapon, which has been in use in our country for more than 100 years. But the revolver, like many other types of high-quality weapons, has been in service with many countries of the world. Here at VO we have already talked about how and when this revolver was created and how it came into service with the Russian Imperial Army. However, this topic is interesting, there are many interesting photos on it, so why not return to it again?

So, first of all, let's see, how many "revolvers" of different years were there? It turns out there are a lot. Here is a list, and it is not quite, so to speak, complete. The first in it is the “revolver” of the 1877 model, which was not a revolver at all! It was a double-barreled pistol (the first weapon in Belgium for metal cartridges!).

Remington revolver M1877. Photo littlegun.be

And it so happened that during a trip to Belgium, Samuel and Elizabeth Remington met the brothers Emil and Leon Nagan. And agreed on a partnership between the two companies. At the same time, the company of the Naganov brothers received the right to use the Remington patent, of course, with the payment of royalties. This is how this pistol with the Remington bolt system was born, which the Belgian gendarmerie ordered 2000 copies of Nagans. Their official name is "Model 1877" or "Remington Nagant". Interestingly, this pistol remained in service with the Belgian gendarmes until the beginning of the twentieth century!

M1877 in the version of the carbine. Photo littlegun.be

The “real revolver”, that is, the revolver that entered service with the Belgian army, customs, and gendarmerie, appeared in 1878 and was produced until 1886. It was produced by the Nagant firm in Liege, and then at the Saint-Leonard Arms Manufactory, all in the same Liege. The revolver was a six-shot, caliber 9,4 mm, chambered for 9,4x22. USM double action. Even then, with its design, it was similar to all subsequent "revolvers". Well, all the design features of the M1878 revolver were protected by patents: Great Britain No. 4310 from 1879 and US No. 226923 from 1880.

"Nagant" M1878. Diagram of the device from British Patent No. 4310 of 1879

The revolver was liked, a good rumor went about it, and in 1883 Brazil wished to have it. At the same time, the Belgian military decided that a double-action revolver for all military personnel was too luxurious. So you won’t get enough ammo for him! This is how the "revolver" of 1883 appeared, which, instead of a self-cocking double-action trigger mechanism, received a single-action mechanism. The external difference is a completely smooth drum!

Brazilian "revolver" 1883. View from the right. Total length 270 mm. Barrel length 146 mm. Photo littlegun.be

In this capacity, he really liked the poor (and at that time they were really poor, not like now) and practical Norwegians, who adopted him in 1883, under the name "9-mm revolver Nagan M1883".

He is. View from the left. Photo littlegun.be

And exactly the same revolver wished to have the army of Brazil. But only the Brazilians needed a large caliber - .440! In fact, it was a Belgian version of the Smith and Wesson cartridge of the so-called "Russian sample", but which had a caliber of 11,2 mm.

In 1884, the gendarmerie of Luxembourg also wished to be armed with revolvers. But ... with an unusual addition - a bayonet, which could be attached to its barrel using a special removable device.

"Nagan" 1884. Photo by littlegun.be

"Nagant" of the Luxembourg gendarmerie 1884. Photo by littlegun.be

In 1887, the licensed production of revolvers was established by the Swedish company Husqvarna. The model that she began to produce was again a typical "revolver" of those years, that is, with an octagonal barrel and double-action trigger, but was adapted for Swedish-Norwegian cartridges of 7,5 × 23 R caliber, with a welt sleeve. Moreover, the bullet to him was unshelled, but in a paper wrapper!

In total, Husqvarna produced 1905 of these revolvers until 13. Interestingly, in Sweden, M732 was used in special police units engaged in training service dogs until 1887.

"Nagant" 1887 and a holster for it. It has a pocket for an ammo clip. Length: 235 mm. Barrel length: 114 mm. Weight without cartridges: 770 g. Photo by littlegun.be

Presentation model M1887. Photo littlegun.be

In 1888, Swedish army lieutenant Thor Fabian Turnell received a patent for a change in the design of the Nagant M1887 revolver, the essence of which was to additionally block the drum. Then in 1893 he was approved in the army, but the conversion of the revolver was carried out at the expense of the one who would like to do it. This model of the Nagant revolver received the designation M1887-93.

Turnell's Revolver. Photo littlegun.be

Husqvarna also produced .22 caliber revolvers. At the same time, their dimensions remained the same, but by introducing sub-caliber tubes into the chambers of the drum and barrel, the caliber changed.

Interestingly, Argentina also wished to arm themselves with revolvers, moreover, very similar to the Brazilian model and exactly the same caliber!

Argentine "revolver". Produced by Simson & C in Suhl. Right view. Overall length: 270 mm. Barrel length: 140 mm. Weight: 1150 g. Caliber 11,5 mm. Oh, to arm the hero of some novel with a “revolver” of this caliber and then see how readers will angrily condemn him for not knowing the materiel. Photo littlegun.be

The same revolver. View from the left. Photo littlegun.be

And this is a frightening type of cartridges for him. Photo littlegun.be

Norwegian "revolver" 1893 Six charges. Caliber 7,5 mm. We can say - a classic of the genre until 1895. Photo littlegun.be

Well, the "revolver" of 1895, which entered the Russian imperial army, is well known to everyone. Before the revolution, it was produced in two versions - soldier's and officer's, and the first one could not shoot self-cocking, that is, it was a single action. After the revolution, only the officer model was produced, and about 1950 million copies were produced before 2, and it was in service with geologists (!) Until 2000, that is, it served for more than 100 years!

Russian "revolver" model 1895. Official name: “3-line revolver (7,62 mm) mod. 1895" Photo littlegun.be

"Nagant" 1895 chambered for .22. Photo littlegun.be

It is interesting that such “shortened” revolvers of 1895 were also produced, which in the West were called “GePeU revolvers”. Photo littlegun.be

Produced "revolvers" with shortened barrels and handles - the so-called commander's, produced "revolvers" in 1895 chambered for .22 caliber. Also known "revolvers" - in any case, they are in the Tula State Museum of Weapons - with elongated barrels and very long ones, completed with a wooden butt, which turned this revolver into a carbine. "Nagant-carbine", according to its creators, was supposed to partially replace the rifle in separate special units. It was believed that from them it would be possible to fire up to 100 meters. The first carbines had an elongated barrel up to 300-400 mm, and a stock connected to the handle. They were issued from 1911 to 1914 for a separate corps of the border guards. Hence its name: "Borderline". It was also planned to arm the "engineers", therefore it had a second name - "Engineering". They were also produced after the revolution, but they were not particularly popular due to poor bullet ballistics at long distances and slow loading.

Border carbine. Below is a shortened "commander's" sample. Photo https://war-time.ru

Engineering carbine. Photo https://war-time.ru

The production of revolvers at the Imperial Arms Factory in Tula, despite their simplicity, could not begin until 1898, so the first batch of 20 revolvers arrived in Russia from Belgium.

The mechanism of the 1898 double-action revolver. Photo littlegun.be

Since the production of a revolver in Tula began in 1898, it would be more correct to call the model that appeared in the army a model of 1898 or 1899. Moreover, it has been somewhat improved in terms of technology.

The device mechanism of the revolver in 1898 single action. Photo littlegun.be

The 1910 model of the year with a throw-out drum for the same 7 rounds became the crowning achievement of the "revolvers" era. Outwardly, it practically did not differ from the 1895 model, but it was certainly much more practical. But... the train has already left. In 1910, such revolvers were no longer particularly interesting to anyone.

"Nagan "Fil". Photo littlegun.be

Another hammerless "revolver" and completely nameless. Photo littlegun.be

Quite amazing models of "revolvers" were also known, for example, the Fil model with a hidden trigger, but there is very, very little information about them. They were - that, in fact, is the whole story about them ...

Comments

[kytx]

"and in service with geologists (!)"

My mom had
I didn’t wear it on routes, I considered it overweight and a useless piece of iron :)
And there were so many things the leaders of the party sometimes dragged parabellum

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

and it was in service with geologists (!) until 2000, that is, it served for more than 100 years!

Not only! In 1999, as a trainee as a district commissioner, I had the opportunity to verify weapons stored in various organizations. At that time, two guns (one of them pre-revolutionary 1915) were registered with the Post Office, and one in 1925 with Sberbank).

[sifgame]

In the film "Territory" this topic is revealed, where geologists shoot hares from revolvers, and people too.

[kytx]

They don't shoot at people in the territory, they shoot at the arctic fox

[sifgame]

In the 2014 film adaptation, a person is also shot.

[Wajra-3]

In 1981 he worked in the defense industry. The VOHRs had revolvers. We all passed the tests together, so the grandmothers gladly let us shoot their three cartridges, and the inspectors pretended not to see.
My father, he was a topographer, had a captured Walter and TOZ-8.

[YOUR]

TT issued. It was believed that they were walking along a route with secret maps that needed to be vigilantly guarded and staunchly defended. My neighbor, after he retired, remained at Geological Exploration as a watchman. The building has a secret, heaps of gold (not a joke) and a gunsmith. Cabinets with pistols, carbines and smoothbore. At one fine moment, I remembered my youth, I was bitten on duty to an insane state and went to catch enemies. The cops took him walking around the city, putting forward a revolver. His friend, the head of this very intelligence, escaped with a severe reprimand. Yes, this reprimand to him, a pensioner up to one place. But they were not allowed to carry weapons.
He lived in the same house with geologists, you come to a neighbor, another not this one, to calm down with his wife, he quarreled with his fists. You will sit and talk, you will miss a glass, he will move away and take out the barrel from under the pillow, take it away, let it stay with you, otherwise I will quarrel with my wife again, God forbid I will get it. He took it, kept it. By today's standards, the deadlines were probably provided for both, but then no one was interested. And most importantly, apart from the described case, there were no others with the use of weapons.

[kytx]

In geology, weapons in the field were given not because of secret maps, but because of bears. Do not invent k, secret materials were not dragged into the routes

[YOUR]

Thanks, made me laugh. On a bear with a revolver, what is this form of suicide?

[kytx]

And you can carry a mosquito, such an opportunity has always been. Only here it is heavy and bulky. Better with revolver or TT.
You obviously never routed .. So don't be ridiculous yourself. Better tell me what a secret geologist can carry around the fields? Maps kilometer?
Maybe I'll laugh then.
Many did not even have permits, because they did not need to work in the field.

[sifgame]

Of course, not in order to fill up a bear, scare away, and other animals are found. Yes, and dashing people probably could be met. Weapons increase the chance of survival, that's the whole answer.

[Bulgarian_5]

Ah Nagan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRpo8zxxNiE

Schwartz steer in this movie

[Revolver]

Who [moderated] would have thought of making a revolver without thumb access to the trigger spoke, and why? You can only shoot from such a self-cocking, and the load on the finger is such that you like it, you don’t like it, but you pull it. I personally tried it. Hit a person (obviously drawn on the target) from 20 meters is unrealistic, and from 10 meters the spread on the target is absolutely terrible. Current if you shoot at close range or shoot yourself. Descent even with a preliminary platoon is heavy.

[kytx]

The revolver is a very tight self-cocking. It's just unrealistic. Even shot, but I have not seen others

[paul3390]

I have to admit - despite all the legendary Nagant is simply terrible .. In almost all respects. Alas, this is one of the worst revolvers ..

[ycuce234-san]

Quote: Nagan

Descent even with a preliminary platoon is heavy.

Nagant is not designed for the physical training of a modern person. His main contingent of shooters is the peasantry, whether Russian, Belgian or otherwise. The peasant spent his whole life in hard physical work and this descent was not tight for him, just like for a modern circus strongman or armwrestler; Yes, and he played the role of a fuse too.
If plantation slavery had survived longer, it would have been very loved for its simplicity and clarity, and the rebellious slaves - with fizuha, then ordinary black guys from the cane and cotton fields of the Caribbean always had order.

[Revolver]

Quote: ycuce234-san

Nagant is not designed for the physical training of a modern person

Well, I'm actually in good physical shape, especially for my pre-retirement years. I go to the fitness room at least 2 times a week for a couple of hours, I try to do 3, but it doesn’t always work out. I bench press more than 110 kg. Nevertheless, I think that the self-cocking descent is difficult.
In general, initially in the terms of reference it was that there should be no self-cocking, just cock it yourself. But after the tests, gentlemen, the officers of the imperial army and navy began to ask that they add a self-platoon. They can be understood - no, no, and you have to deal with a group of drunk or rrrrrrrrrrevolutionary-minded lower ranks, and there is no time to cock or aim, just pull the trigger, and the bullet will find the culprit. Solomon's decision was made to issue a self-platoon for gentlemen officers, and without it for the lower ranks.

[ycuce234-san]

Measure your grip with a dynamometer.
And then, after all, to a non-professional person who presses 136-140 kg with just one brush, even before the era of doping, under stress, the old revolver will seem no heavier than a bicycle bell.
http://oldatletikaussr.blogspot.com/2012/09/blog-post_5505.html

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: ycuce234-san

Measure your grip with a dynamometer.
And then, after all, to a non-professional person who presses 136-140 kg with just one brush, even before the era of doping, under stress, the old revolver will seem no heavier than a bicycle bell.
http://oldatletikaussr.blogspot.com/2012/09/blog-post_5505.html

I wonder on what "galleys" could a Belgian or domestic peasant develop such a grip?
Let's be frank - the gunsmiths of the end of the century before last were still at the beginning of the path of multiply charged weapons and the problem of the convenience of trigger release (forgive me for the tautology) has not yet been confused. Other tasks were set at the edge of the corner: to dump a horse at a gallop, the inadmissibility of a breakthrough of powder gases, etc.

[ycuce234-san]

Peasants (and plantation slaves) have always been very strong physically.
You can also look at the male peasants in the paintings of the old masters of painting: Van Gogh. Digging peasant. 1885 or The Planter and His Black Servants (Suriname, 1831). There are publications about the anthropology of recruits.
The imperfection of ergonomics is only partially to blame here - people of the century have already riveted the demanded delicate and delicate mechanics of watches and marine chronometers and the mechanics of high-quality hunting rifles and, if desired, could easily make a soft and comfortable descent.

[U-58]

While working part-time at VOKhR, I observed two versions.
Tula Empire in 1916 and Soviet in 1944.
The second one was much more convenient because of the enlarged handle, which was "sufficient" for the girth of the entire brush, unlike the royal one. My hand is small, "intelligent", but at the same time the handle is, as it were, small and the revolver feels like it is being pulled forward and down.
Well, shooting from it is a complete tin.
For real men.
The descent is tight, so it pulls and at 50 meters you will hit a growth target only once out of three shots.
After this film, we about the civil war looked strange. There, on self-cocking, they shoot lightly and almost in a burst. In my life, I have not been able to wield the trigger so famously (of course, on a discharged apparatus). Very tight.
At military training, shooting from Makarov seemed like child's play.

[Catfish]

Yes, the Nagant has problems with a tight trigger. I never shot from it and there was no desire, because in the storeroom of our museum of these revolvers there was a "whole bag" and, for the sake of interest, we tried several pieces for a soft descent, but no - everywhere the same. Only now I somehow did not notice the difference in the size of the handles between the Soviet and the tsarist ones. Yes, there were a couple more Finnish ones, but they, apart from the hallmarks, did not differ from ours in any way.
Thanks Vyacheslav for the new article!

[vladcub]

Kostya, did you meet the Polish one: "Radom - Nagant"?
Q. O did not mention him.

[Catfish]

Exactly, the Poles made them, but Radom, this is not a name, but a city in Poland, where the weapons factory was located.

Otherwise, it was no different from the "Russian Nagant".

[vladcub]

Zhuk read about him

[vladcub]

"wield a trigger", some kind of special issue with a soft trigger could be used in the film

[Russ]

I am a pistol, revolver systems.
Surname, not anyhow - Nagant!
Apparently I was invented, you fanatic.
Or maybe it's just that, a bully.

I distinguished myself in the First World War.
In the great revolution, flashed.
Both VOKhR and the convoy were friends with me.
He shot at traitors, in repressions.

They were proud of me, the commissar in a leather jacket.
In an anarchist vest, a sailor.
One of the peasants ripped off me.
Another bourgeois poked me in the nose.

I was a Russian roulette, the first friend.
Temples, and foreheads, shot through a lot.
Their nobility painted leisure with me,
And I really pleased them.

Urkochi took me to work.
With me, after all, it’s more convenient to gop-stop.
Lying in my pocket, I wandered in the night
And he threatened people, buried in his forehead.

I served a veteran with a hammer,
He cracked walnuts with me.
My grandchildren admired me, but secretly.
I began to resemble scrap metal ...

Today, some dumbass,
He decided to settle the score with a life-bitch.
And I answered him: - Here you are ... bolt! -
Misfire gave out to save a life!

[vladcub]

"shot in traitors, in repressions" in the 30s they already used TT, and anarchist sailors loved something massive: Colt, Mauser

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: vladcub

"shot in traitors, in repressions" in the 30s they already used TT, and anarchist sailors loved something massive: Colt, Mauser

Alas, Vlad is more revolver. Interested in this issue.

[vladcub]

Sailors are anarchists? hee hee

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: vladcub

Sailors are anarchists? hee hee

No namesake.

[vladcub]

It's a pity. Thought you had a time machine.
Maybe you remember, there was a movie: "Forward to the past", "Back to the future"

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: vladcub

It's a pity. Thought you had a time machine.
Maybe you remember, there was a movie: "Forward to the past", "Back to the future"

Everything is simpler - statements for receiving ammunition for IVMN.

[Revolver]

Quote: vladcub

"shot into traitors, shot in repression" in the 30s already used TT

TT, firstly, is redundant in energy, when fired, it is guaranteed to pierce the skull through and through and can ricochet from the wall into the performer himself. And secondly, in the event of a misfire, the TT must at least distort, and the Nagant will have enough to cock again and you're done, shoot, otherwise it's generally self-cocking, since shooting at close range. So the performers used the Nagant at least until the death of Stalin, and possibly later.

[vladcub]

"maybe later" Leonov, I don't remember the book, tells about the group: "finish" and there the performer uses: Margolin

[Waterways 672]

VOKhRA used to be armed with revolvers. A large railway bridge, for example, was guarded by them.
In folk art, the revolver is also displayed.
They fired a shot from a revolver,
The little one cried.
By my white shirt
Ala dripped blood...

[Catfish]

In folk art, the revolver is also displayed.

Yes, people did not pass by.

"In an instant, the hops left the little head,
I took out the revolver from my pocket,
Shot seven times in his sweetheart,
And in response I heard - Hooligan! "(C)

But, we must remember that at the beginning and middle of the century any short-barreled weapon, including pistols, was called "revolver".

[vladcub]

"People didn't pass by." Good afternoon. I heard something else from childhood: "It's hard to live in a village without Nagant"

[Catfish]

Do you remember this?

"Boys are walking,
All in jackets
Naga Nagans
They have it in their hands.

We are youngsters
We are raiders
purses, purses,
Purses." (c)

Performed personally by Boris Novikov with a guitar.

In the process of kin, he changes the guitar to the same Nagant.

[vladcub]

It seems familiar, but I don't remember. And about the fact that weapons in the village were necessary. Heard from the elders. We plowed the garden and the plow found a sawn-off shotgun. The "neck" was already rotten, and the fore-end was almost intact.
So I know what the cuts looked like

[vladcub]

"they gave a shot from a revolver" I don't know this

[serg.shishkov2015]

Nagans are different! different revolvers are needed! P, S, at the beginning of the millennium, I came across several articles by Miledin, a geologist, in * Master Gun *, he claims that in the days of the USSR in especially remote corners, the constant carrying of CIVIL firearms was a MANDATORY rule of TB! and as such weapons he calls rifles and carbines Mosin, TT and revolver, there were photos!

[Ponchik78]

Yes, this is even shown in feature films. In the movie "Three long beeps in the fog" for example. There, the geologist has a TT.

[hhurik]

The party nomenklatura was fully armed until the 70s.

[Aviator_]

This certificate was issued in 1953, the term, indeed, until 1974, but it is unlikely that the secret of the Dneprodzerzhinsky district committee went with him for so long. Most likely, in the mid-50s, and passed.

[hhurik]

Well, they could have withdrawn a specific person or went to the capital for a promotion - that's not the point. At the weapons forum, a policeman unsubscribed, who, precisely in the early 70s, carried out the disarmament of party workers with the transfer of weapons to warehouses. In his words, mostly party bosses were armed with TK.

[Aviator_]

An interesting document. The OGPU was in the USSR from 1922 to 1934. In the late 70s and early 80s, weapons were issued when transporting secret documents, but I believe that they were not issued home, but exclusively for the duration of the trip, most likely PM.

[vladcub]

"most likely PM" my aunt, in the 70s, had an unofficial husband. He periodically carried some cargo to Moscow. During the trip, he was given a revolver.
I remember he said that he cleaned it first

[Aviator_]

During the trip, he was given a revolver.

Perhaps, in some document of the 20s, the type of weapon that the escort was armed with was written. And no one canceled this document, although years and decades passed.

[vladcub]

It was in the early 70s, the army and the mentor were being rearmed with PM, and the revolver, as a non-army weapon, was shaken off: mail, VOKhR
PS. I don’t know how it is now, but in the 80s the fish inspection had revolvers chambered for Makarov .. Technical advisers in Vietnam, in those years, also had revolvers chambered for Makarov, a drum for 5 rounds. In my opinion, imitation: Smith - Wesson
Probably now: "Baikal", it seems that Astra has a private security son, and says that he has "Baikal"

[Aviator_]

In the 80s, the fish inspection had revolvers chambered for Makarov .. Technical advisers in Vietnam, in those years, also had revolvers chambered for Makarov, a drum for 5 rounds.

Interestingly, Makarov's cartridge was not put on the barrel, gas breakthrough is inevitable. Some strange experiments. I don’t know about Vietnam, but our advisers in Egypt, until they were kicked out in 1972, had standard PMs.

[vladcub]

About 7 years ago, I got along with a man. He 1982 was an adviser in Haiphong.
And he had such a revolver, and his escort, a local guard, had: an old teaching staff and two pistols

[old_pferd]

In areas of the taiga and tundra, where there were predators, the safety rules required the presence of weapons in the route group. I carried a revolver, then a carbine.

[Andrey VOV]

I shot from a revolver, the impressions are very even, the descent was the very thing, not tight and not easy at all, the accuracy pleased me .. I immediately feel inside that I’m on a civilian))))

[Murphy]

For some reason, nothing is said about a cartridge with a bullet recessed into the sleeve.

[kalibr]

Quote from Murphy.

For some reason, nothing is said about a cartridge with a bullet recessed into the sleeve.

Because you don't have to put everything in one basket. And about the cartridge of Henri Pieper will be in the next article.

[vladcub]

"otherwise even a gun" in our village there was a district policeman and his old man, a fellow villager, once asked
- What kind of Nagan do you have? *
- This is PM.
He sometimes allowed the boys to rub the cheek of the pistol with his finger and said: grow up and let me hold him, but if you don’t play around.
Later, after 10 or 12 years, I supported the PM, but it was not the district police officer who gave him to hold. And as Kanevsky said: "a completely different story"

[vladcub]

V. Oh, thanks for the "Nagant" about: Remengton-Nagant I have not heard.
He amused: "Luxembourg Nagant": in figs they have a bayonet! Perhaps they were going to hand-to-hand combat?

[hhurik]

A strange question: a bayonet on a pestle is a sacred thing. Like a collar collar.

[depressant]

What is the difference between a pistol, revolver and revolver?

Pistol.
When fired from a pistol, the powder charge is burned, energy is generated, with the help of which three actions occur:
the bullet takes off;
the spent cartridge case is automatically ejected;
the shutter returns to its original position, thereby feeding the next cartridge from the magazine.
Aim, touch the trigger and fire until the magazine is empty. And only when changing the store does the shutter twitch manually

The revolver is non-automated.
Finger on the trigger, pressing, shot - one. And in order to shoot again, you need to manually cock the trigger so that the drum turns and the cartridge goes into the barrel. Spent shells remain in their nests! And when all the cartridges are used, the sleeves must be removed and the drum filled with fresh cartridges.
You can’t beat the drum in advance, it’s not a replaceable clip.
Thus, with an equal lethal capability, the pistol wins in rate of fire.

Revolver.
This is a more progressive revolver, in which the frame is monolithic, a unique system for pushing the frame onto the barrel, supposedly completely eliminating the leakage of powder gases between the barrel and the frame, and this happens, by the way, with modern revolvers. As a plus - two-handed hold.
Well, then - back to the gun ))))

[Revolver]

Quote: depressant

supposedly completely eliminating the leakage of powder gases between the barrel and the frame

Not supposedly. Checked. An additional plus is that all the soot remains inside the barrel, and for ordinary revolvers, after firing, the entire trigger is polluted.

[alex-cn]

unique system of sliding the frame onto the barrel
this is something new in the design of revolvers

[vladcub]

Lyudmila Yakovlevna, there were revolvers and self-cocking ones. B. About described

[9283539239]

the rate of fire of a pistol seems to me greatly exaggerated if you take a standard pestle with two magazines and a loaded revolver and shoot fifty rounds, the question is who will shoot faster?
it seems to me much longer to fill stores
п

[9283539239]

"And only when changing the store does the shutter twitch manually"
Have you ever heard of shutter lag?

[9283539239]

"a unique system for pushing the frame onto the barrel"
here I was very surprised
the drum is coming
Well, as for obturation, there is nothing advanced, ninety-nine percent of revolvers do not use it and do not worry about it

[RUSSIAN_Ksyusha]

10 pluses to you for an excellent article you know from whom

[kalibr]

I understood you! Thank you!

[BAI]

The author did not say anything about the evolution of cartridges. And they have a characteristic. He was holding a 1928 issue Nagant. And ammo for it. ammo is like this:

the bullet is embedded in the case.

[decimalegio]

In the absence of original shells, 32-20 Winchester cartridges can be used for reloading. It is clear that since the cases are shorter, they will not seal the space between the barrel and the drum.

[decimalegio]

Thank you for the article. In Italy €350,00 for a copy of the Soviet period. Ammunition is produced by flakes (Fiocchi), an old line of fame.

[Wildcat]

The production of revolvers at the Imperial Arms Factory in Tula, despite their simplicity, could not begin until 1898.

“Monsieur, I swear to God, I’m a conservative, but I’m already starting to grumble! For mercy, the exchange rate and the customs tariff have made it so that now only the rich can buy weapons! The poor have only Tula weapons and phosphorus matches, and Tula weapons are a misfortune! from a Tula revolver to your wife, and you get yourself in the shoulder blade ... "AP Chekhov (c)

[Wildcat]

"Nagans" - in any case, they are in the Tula State Museum of Weapons - with elongated barrels and very long ones, completed with a wooden butt, which turned this revolver into a carbine.

Apparently, there were at least two options for a permanent stock, with a developed pistol grip

and without it

[Wildcat]

Revolver options.

"The same double-barrelled." Sometimes erroneously attributed to the "royal guard"

Options with different barrel lengths and different handles

Variants with different flies (but with holes in the trunks, "otherwise you never know" .... or "there are options for such use")

And the very, very rare version of the revolver: a revolver that is trusted by an ordinary citizen

[John22]

Any weapon takes some getting used to. and then there will be results and pleasure. First you need to learn how to properly hold a revolver in your hand. Then keep the fly straight. Then press the trigger with a flat front sight. After hundreds of descents with the cocked and self-cocked, the question of a tight descent disappears by itself. After that, you need to shoot cartridges, also about a hundred. After that, you can evaluate the Nagant revolver arr. 1895
I myself went through all this and consider it a weapon of my time. The tight descent of the revolver - instead of a fuse. The design was provided for by the TK, so we got what we ordered. By that time, there was already a folding drum, and if the technical specifications had provided for this, then Nagant would have finalized the revolver. By the way, the same thing could have been done under the USSR, if there were thinking heads. But alas!

[Tests]

In 2007, USC was established in the Russian Federation. After the formation of the USC, they decided to get rid of the VOKhR at the GRTSAS enterprises in Severodvinsk as non-core assets. The VOKhR was armed with revolvers of the 30s, 40s, and 50s of release. left the VOKhR ... Competitions were held: either the departmental security of the Ministry of Industry, or the departmental security of the Ministry of Transport, as it were, guarded Sevmash, "Zvezdochka" and "Arktika" ... True, there were days when the workers of the VOKhR stood guard over "Zvyozdochka" without any weapons. The Severodvinsk city newspaper Severny Rabochiy wrote about this on December 2008, 2009: “On the night of December 29, the acting director of the Arkhangelsk branch, Vladimir Mnogoletny, in the presence of the former director of the branch, Viktor Korotich, organizes the seizure of weapons from people who are guarding the Zvyozdochka. the defense enterprise is actually left without armed guards... The position of the head of the 2010th department of the Regional Internal Affairs Directorate, Nikolai Shekhin, who organized everything that was happening, could not but arouse bewilderment among specialists. And nothing, neither the boys and girls in blue uniforms, nor, as it were, the military personnel from the office with 15 letters, saw signs of a crime in the actions of officials. Although Zvezdochka at that time had tons of radioactive waste, diamonds and diamonds, documents, materials and devices of varying degrees of secrecy. Russia...

[Garpun112]

The topic is not fully disclosed.
What was the difference between the revolver of the USSR and the royal one?
Why did the USSR make a revolver with a short barrel?
And who knows why change the barrel of a revolver and how?
Why did killers (killers) love weapons like revolvers?

[kytx]

Quote: sifgame

Of course, not in order to fill up a bear, scare away, and other animals are found. Yes, and dashing people probably could be met. Weapons increase the chance of survival, that's the whole answer.

"We carry gold in cartridges"

I've had to
Boom! To the air.
And all
Such cases