MLRS "Smerch": ruthless perfection

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Speaking of "Smerch" and "Tornado-S" it makes sense to avoid all these modern "not having ...", because excellent technology has always had and will have imitators. Otherwise, it's not a great technique.

The fact that at one time Soviet designers and engineers were far ahead of the whole world in the development of MLRS is an indisputable fact. The fact that for almost half a century in the world of designers there was a war under the old slogan "Catch up and overtake" - too. But, oddly enough, they caught up with us. And I wouldn't say successful.



We will analyze how this turned out in the next material from the Versus series, where we will talk about which large-caliber MLRS in the world can be considered advanced and by what criteria.

Of course, the achievements of Russian, Chinese and American engineers and designers must be considered, but this must be done in a complex, and not purely from performance characteristics. However, it will be a little ahead.

In the meantime, we have the quintessence of destruction, the Smerch MLRS.

MLRS "Smerch": ruthless perfection

Can Smerch be considered a relatively new system? No. The MLRS was developed within the walls of the Tula State Research and Production Enterprise Splav in the early 80s of the last century, and entered service in 1987. But what has changed for an almost eight-meter pillar capable of flying over a hundred kilometers and bringing there three hundred kilograms of explosives or a crowd of cluster elements?

Absolutely nothing.

Yes, there are accuracy issues, but for this, work was carried out on the Tornado-S, essentially the same Smerch, but with bells and whistles in the form of a GLONASS link. The principle of application has not changed at all.

The accumulation of troops before the offensive? Control communication node? A transport hub crammed with wagons or cars? A fortified area with long-term firing structures? Everything is as in advertising - if you have it, then we fly to you.


Moreover, the MLRS projectile is a worthy relative of the artillery one. True, it causes more problems, and in terms of dealing with it - complete hopelessness. Electronic warfare - about nothing, shelters and smoke screens - too, we work on the squares, the principle "on whom" Smerch "will send" is implemented with divine simplicity, some counteractions of a kinetic nature also look strange. In the final section of the trajectory, the MLRS projectile is just as informative for means of combat, like its brother, an artillery projectile.

Yes, at one time in the United States, developments were carried out on a missile capable of shooting down large-caliber projectiles. The detection principle was based on Doppler disturbances left by a flying blank. As a result, the cost of such a missile, capable of shooting down a 70 mm artillery shell with a 406% probability, according to calculations, approached one million dollars. A shell for a 406-mm gun at that time cost about 18 thousand dollars. This is where it all ended.

So no one in the world (from smart people) questions the relevance of the MLRS today. And even the Americans, who were very skeptical about the development of MLRS as a type of weapon, began to develop new models.
Combat use in many conflicts has shown how effective the work of the MLRS in areas can be.

So, "Smerch"



The complex consists of the following components:
- combat vehicle 9A52-2;
— transport-loading machine 9T234−2;
- a set of automated fire control tools 9S729M1 "Slepok-1";
- vehicle for topographic survey 1T12−2M;
- meteorological complex 1B44.

The 9A52-2 launcher is mounted on the basis of a four-axle MAZ-543M vehicle.


The artillery part, consisting of a package of guides (12 pipes), rotary, lifting and balancing mechanisms are located in the rear, the calculation cabin, engine and transmission are in the front.


The guide pipes have a U-shaped groove for spinning the projectile around its axis and giving it stability in flight.

Guidance mechanisms guide the guide package in the range from 0 to 55 degrees in the vertical plane and 30 degrees to the left and right of the machine axis in the horizontal plane.

To increase the stability of the machine during firing, hydraulic supports are installed between the third and fourth axles, on which the rear of the installation is hung out to increase stability.

In addition, for the sake of accuracy, in addition to these mechanisms, the projectiles themselves have their own system for improving the accuracy of hitting. The Smerch projectiles have a flight control system that is capable of correcting the trajectory in pitch and yaw. To correct the flight in the projectiles, there is a 9D168 corrective engine with four switchgears (steering machines, if in a simple way) and eight steering nozzles. Installed in the bow, immediately after the electronic control components.

Well, the accuracy is also affected by the unwinding of the projectile around its axis when starting in the guide tube and the release after the start of the stabilizing elements in the tail section of the projectile.

Therefore, the Smerch shells are distinguished by very high accuracy and accuracy. Dispersion of a volley of MLRS "Smerch" does not exceed 0,21% of the firing range.

Shells



The 300-mm Smerch MLRS shells have several similar parameters. Length 7 mm, weight 600 kg, warhead weight 800 kg. Warhead can be cassette or monoblock.

Further differences by types of projectiles.
- 9M55F, high-explosive fragmentation projectile with a monoblock warhead. The weight of the explosive is 92,5 kg. 1100 ready-made fragments weighing 50 g each. The main purpose of the projectile is the destruction of large infrastructure facilities, defensive structures, command and control posts, missile launch sites, communication centers, and so on;

- 9M55K, a projectile with a cluster warhead containing 72 fragmentation-type combat elements weighing 2 kg each. The main purpose of this projectile is the enemy's manpower and vehicles. 72 combat elements carry 96 heavy (4,5 g) and 360 light (0,75 g) fragments each;

- 9M55K1, a projectile with a cluster warhead containing five self-aiming ammunition "Motive" designed to destroy enemy armored vehicles. The so-called "roofbreaker", in terms of efficiency is not inferior to more modern developments such as the same "Javelin", but in some ways surpasses them. The element is capable of hitting armor 70 mm thick at an angle of 30 degrees. The only negative is that the projectile is good for working on targets in open areas;

- 9M55K4, a projectile with a cluster warhead equipped with 25 anti-tank mines weighing 4,8 kg each with an electronic proximity fuse. For one volley, the Smerch combat vehicle puts 300 minutes. If such an operation is carried out in front of units at the line of attack, the effectiveness of the latter is in doubt;

- 9M55K5, a projectile with a cluster warhead, contains 588 cumulative fragmentation warheads weighing 240 g each and 128 mm long, capable of penetrating 160 mm armor;

- 9M55S, projectile with thermobaric warhead. Upon explosion, it creates a thermal field with a diameter of at least 25 m (depending on the terrain) with a temperature of over 1000 degrees for 1,5 seconds.

- 9M534, projectile from the R-90 Tipchak UAV on board. When approaching the target area, the UAV is released and for 30 minutes from a height of 500 m can survey an area of ​​25 square meters. km and transmit data over a distance of up to 70 km, making reconnaissance or shooting adjustments.

The combat vehicle MLRS "Smerch" has the ability to fire single launches or volleys. Launches are controlled from the cockpit or from a remote control. The efficiency of the MLRS "Smerch" is provided by the automated fire control system "Vivarium".

ACS "Vivarium" is designed for automated and non-automated control of the MLRS brigade armed with the 9K58 "Smerch" complex. "Vivarium" can be used to control the MLRS "Hurricane".

The technical capabilities of the Vivarium make it possible to solve the tasks of delivering concentrated fire, including on moving enemy columns. "Vivarium" undertakes the exchange of information with various command and control groups, the collection and analysis of data for firing, information on the state of artillery units.

Its technical means provide information exchange with superior, subordinate and interacting command and control bodies, solve the problems of planning concentrated fire and fire on columns, prepare data for firing, collect and analyze information about the state of artillery units.

The basis of the control and data collection system "Vivarium" is command and staff vehicles (KShM), which are at the disposal of the commander and chief of staff of the brigade, as well as the commanders of divisions (up to three) and batteries (up to eighteen) subordinate to them. If necessary, one of the KShM can replace a failed machine, as they have absolutely identical equipment. This significantly increases the survivability of the entire control system, from the division to the brigade level and above.


The equipment responsible for data processing is placed on the chassis of a KamAZ-4310 vehicle.


The body is equipped with communication facilities, data transmission encryption equipment, a digital computer with peripherals. The brain of the complex is the computer complex E-715-1.1.


The complex of means of communication provides interfaced work with stations of satellite, tropospheric, radio relay communication, radio stations of HF and VHF ranges.

How it works


The command post of the artillery brigade receives data from intelligence or higher command about the enemy. The command of the brigade with the help of computing tools solves the problem of planning fire. Data about the enemy is processed in order to determine the most effective method of hitting targets.

Many factors are taken into account: the availability of ammunition, the state of equipment in the subunits, and the required density of fire is estimated. The solutions obtained are transferred to the selected division, which is assigned a combat mission.

The battalion commander clarifies information about the enemy, receives the coordinates of the target (targets), reaches the starting line, geolocation, and clarifies meteorological data for the near future.

Based on the received data, processed on the KShM equipment, updated combat data for the battery is formed, which are sent directly to the commanders of the six combat vehicles that make up the battery.

This is followed by the process of loading BM MLRS "Smerch" using TZM 9T234-2. The process of loading one BM takes 35 minutes.


After all the guides are charged, in accordance with the received coordinates, the installation is aimed and the missiles are launched. It is noteworthy that after 2-3 minutes the BM "Smerch" can leave the position from which the launch was carried out. Such promptness greatly complicates the enemy's counter-battery fire in response.

The performance characteristics of the MLRS 9K58 "Smerch"



Caliber, mm: 300
Number of guides: 12
Calculation persons: 4
Weight in combat position, t: 43,7

Overall dimensions, mm:
- length - 12 400
- width - 3 100
- height in the stowed position - 3 100

Shooting range, km:
- maximum - 90
- minimum - 20
Volley duration, sec: 38
Reload time, min: 35

Maximum speed, km/h: 60
Power reserve, km: 850

***


The effectiveness of "Smerch" is pointless to prove. Comparing with classmates is interesting and informative. You can argue for a long time on the topic that the Chinese WS-1 and WS-2 fly further, and the ammunition of the American MLRS and HIMARS of the AFOM family seems to be smarter and more accurate.

Balance. This is a key concept that has been elevated to the status of an axiom for Tornado. However, in the next article of the Versus series, we will just talk in comparisons about American, Chinese and Russian MLRS, so to speak, in detail.

For now, suffice it to say that, despite the rather decent time that Smerch has been serving Russia, the system not only does not become obsolete, on the contrary, it demonstrates a rather high potential for modernization.

Tornado-S, in which the system received a bonus in the form of satellite navigation for missile guidance, is a serious step forward. 120 km in range is very, very decent, and satellite-corrected guidance is today.

9K58 "Kama", which is a "half" "Smerch" - is also an interesting move.


All vehicles of the complex carrying equipment are based on the KamAZ-6350 chassis. The number of launch rails has been halved to 6 units. This significantly reduced the mass of both the combat vehicle and the TZM. And KamAZ is speed. That is, the complex has become more mobile, the possibility of a faster exit to the launch line, and, accordingly, a faster withdrawal, has been realized. The implementation of the principle "hit - gone" is evident.

Given the rather versatile range of ammunition, the Smerch can indeed be considered an absolutely universal MLRS.

"Hurricane", which for so long carried the tasks of a heavy MLRS, was really a very good complex. But there is a general obsolescence of the entire system, from chassis to missiles. In principle, the cessation of work on the modernization of the Uragan and the departure from three MLRS systems to two, 122-mm and 300-mm, is justified.

"Grad" is mobility, it is a shaft of fire, it is several dozen medium-caliber missiles that perfectly cover the area. "Smerch" is a smaller number of missiles, but more serious capabilities.


Further development of the MLRS will still be. Of course, high-precision tactical weapon like the Iskander and MGM-140A ATACMS will also be developed, but ... The MLRS has one very decent advantage. This is the price of ammunition.

Of course, tactical missiles can cover a column, say, tank divisions on the march. And cause quite a lot of damage. But it will still be incommensurable with what a MLRS brigade can do with one salvo, because tactical missiles are a piece of equipment, for a one-time accurate strike. And MLRS is precisely a weapon for working across areas, no less accurate today than artillery, but more effective in terms of instant damage.

Yes, the column is on the march. It may turn out that Aviation cannot be applied. Weather conditions, anti-aircraft defense systems and so on. Artillery - yes. But artillery will pick a given area for quite a long time. And the enemy can simply escape from the fire. MLRS in this case is much more effective.

Let's think. A division of 6 Smerch combat vehicles fires 72 shells per minute (let's not quibble over seconds). This is "only" 360 self-aiming anti-tank elements "Motiv-M". Of course, a certain amount will miss the target, but even if a third of this number hits, then this column is not to be envied.

The 9M55K5 fragmentation-armor-piercing projectile contains 588 combat elements 128 mm or 646 elements 118 mm long. The elements are capable of penetrating 120 mm of armor and are designed specifically to defeat enemy manpower on the march, in conditions of movement on an armored personnel carrier or infantry fighting vehicle.


Let's think and use the calculator. One projectile contains 588 or 646 elements. 12 shells of one installation of 7056 and 7752 elements, respectively. 6 vehicles of the division can release 42 or 336 combat elements at a time.

Someone in their right mind wants to check how strong the armor of the BMP is? I think no. And those who fall under such a downpour will not have much choice.

Many compliments can be made to this remarkable combat vehicle in all respects, but I think the most interesting thing will be its objective and impartial comparison with classmates.
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  1. +14
    4 May 2022 04: 08
    When you see it not in the picture, but standing next to it, you understand what a terrifying power it is.
    1. +4
      4 May 2022 05: 22
      MLRS "Smerch": ruthless perfection

      Quote: Incvizitor
      When you see it not in the picture, but standing next to it, you understand what a terrifying power it is.

      Yes, this is a broom, sweep trash from the Earth. And she's so terrifying. recourse
    2. +4
      4 May 2022 06: 40
      When you see him not in the picture but standing next to him
      had the opportunity to stand nearby, in St. Petersburg, in the courtyard of the Museum of Artillery and Communications. Inspires respect so to speak)))
      1. +1
        6 May 2022 17: 14
        Go to Luga to the training ground, to the holiday "Day of the Rocket Forces and Artillery", you will see live firing. The entrance is free.
        1. 0
          7 May 2022 06: 48
          Go to Luga to the landfill
          thanks for the advice but ... I'm already far from those places hi
    3. +1
      4 May 2022 07: 42
      Quote: Incvizitor
      When you see it not in the picture, but standing next to it, you understand what a terrifying power it is.

      And when you stand next to him when he shoots ....
  2. +6
    4 May 2022 05: 58
    1. The principle “on whom the Tornado will send” is implemented with divine simplicity, some counteractions of a kinetic nature also look strange. In the final section of the trajectory, the MLRS projectile is just as informative for means of combat, like its brother, an artillery projectile .....

    2. The detection principle was based on Doppler disturbances left by a flying blank.

    Cool! Ornate, but beautiful! Author, let me write off! I myself can’t do that even after a liter! (I need more ... but then I can forget what I wanted to say or I won’t burn out the letters!) Although ... you can probably do without "eulogies"! Suffice it to say: "Smerch"! And everyone takes off their hat ... (someone and pants ...)!
  3. 0
    4 May 2022 06: 27
    I don’t quite understand, does the rocket have no plumage at all?
    1. +8
      4 May 2022 06: 38
      in each photo it is clearly visible in the back. there are 6 drop-down curvilinear elements, their area is quite enough for stabilization, tk. the rocket rotates in flight, almost like a projectile, and besides, it taxis with gas rudders, choosing an error in course and pitch
      1. 0
        5 May 2022 22: 49
        , because the rocket rotates in flight, almost like a projectile

        Here is something else. Rotation is not for stabilization on the principle of a gyroscope (as in a bullet or projectile), but is relatively slow. It is only needed to compensate for the asymmetry and misalignment of the projectile and thrust vector. If you do not rotate, it will deviate in the same direction. If rotated, it will move in a spiral of a small radius along the main trajectory. Accuracy rises sharply even for unmanaged ones. For this, stabilizers with a slight "tilt" from the axis.
  4. +8
    4 May 2022 06: 35
    For increase stability machinery

    to spin the projectile around its axis and give it stability in flight.


    Don't confuse persistence with resilience. Those are completely different concepts. Stability in flight (of a projectile) or a car on the ground is one thing. A stability -
    the ability of the ship to resist the heeling action of external forces and return to a straight position after the termination of this action.
    completely different
    1. 0
      4 May 2022 07: 58
      Quote: Region-25.rus
      completely different

      You explained the difference, but you did not expand the purpose of the explanation.
      If we talk about уstability of the Tornado, then without supports it is always enough, but in the process of firing, оstability from buildup is not enough, therefore ....
      1. +2
        4 May 2022 08: 46
        You explained the difference, but you did not expand the purpose of the explanation
        need to clarify the obvious? Excuse me - clarification of terminology. More precisely, the difference in definitions.
        stability from buildup is not enough
        comment what is stability read carefully? Or so ... just to argue?
      2. +2
        4 May 2022 14: 50
        Quote: Genry
        If we talk about the stability of the Tornado, then without supports it is always enough, but in the process of shooting, stability from buildup is not enough, and therefore ....

        If in the process of firing "Smerch" there are problems with оstamina, then the driver needs to tear off his hands and head. Because this means only one thing - this driver drove the installation into the water, and in such a way that it surfaced.
        For the term "stability" refers only to floating objects.
        Stability is the ability of the vessel to resist the forces that caused it to tilt, and after the termination of these forces, return to its original position.
        Vessel inclinations are possible for various reasons: from the action of oncoming waves, due to asymmetric flooding of compartments during a hole, from the movement of goods, wind pressure, due to the receipt or expenditure of goods, etc.
        © K.N. Teapots. General arrangement of courts.
  5. +2
    4 May 2022 06: 45
    Quote: Ilya_Nsk
    in each photo you can clearly see it in the back


    How about, and I quote:

    Guide pipes have a U-shaped groove for spinning the projectile around its axis
    1. +1
      4 May 2022 07: 51
      Quote: Luminman
      How about, and I quote:

      Guide pipes have a U-shaped groove for spinning the projectile around its axis

      All right. Unwinds in the guide, and plumage further helps. The rocket rotates in flight, stabilizing the flight and choosing the eccentricity of the rocket engine ... That's what the gas rudders, choosing the error on the trajectory. Well, where GLONASS control is already comparable to tactical missiles in terms of accuracy.
    2. 0
      4 May 2022 07: 59
      I quote

      Well, the accuracy is also affected by the unwinding of the projectile around its axis when starting in the guide tube and the release after the start of the stabilizing elements in the tail section of the projectile.
    3. 0
      27 May 2022 07: 38
      The tail unit on the projectiles is collapsible, in storage, during the transportation of the TZM and in the guides themselves at launch it is folded (pressed with a retaining ring that flies off at the time of launch), at the moment of launch (exit from the guides) it unfolds due to the springs.
      As a result, we have:
      The initial twist of the projectile is due to 2 helical grooves inside the guides at launch.
      Maintaining rotation in flight is already due to the small tail.
  6. +15
    4 May 2022 07: 41
    Tornado is not a high-precision system. When they say on state channels that a volley of tornado covers 67 hectares, it means that 12 shells will fall on an area of ​​​​67 hectares, and not the destruction of all life in such an area. 67 hectares for reference is more than 800×800 meters. Considering that the weight of the warhead in the projectile is approximately 250 kg, even cluster shells will not cover much. And given the prices of low-precision shells, the matter becomes quite sad.
    Prices for 2005 for each projectile:
    High explosive 9M55F with adult 9B191 2004986,26 XNUMX
    9M55K fragmentation cassette with adult 9B171 1780600,01
    9M55K fragmentation cassette with adult 9B191 2248396,48
    Fragmentation cassette inert 9M55K IN 2083752,40
    Corrected at the initial stage of the flight, but not a high-precision projectile that does not have a guidance system in 2005, it cost as much as 4-5 cars.

    I think that Tornado S with modern shells is a thing. But are they in the troops, these shells???
    I also think that promising shells will not "spin in the barrel", the complex will become closer to the OTRK with a high-precision missile.
    The Soviet tornado is good for covering the positions of divisions and corps. During the Cold War, this was necessary, today it is not necessary to cover huge areas, but accuracy.
    Time does not spare anyone, you need to move forward.
    And as for the "shaposhnikov / urapatriots" with the words "no analogues, the best in the world," these comrades only lull their vigilance and actually oppose the modernization of the army.
    You need to be objective and not shout about the total destruction of all life on an area of ​​67 hectares with the help of 12 warheads of 250 kg each.
    1. 0
      4 May 2022 08: 14
      And why is the preliminary unwinding of the rocket bad?
      1. +6
        4 May 2022 10: 26
        "And what's wrong with the preliminary unwinding of the rocket"
        For example, the fact that the satellite-guided signal receiving unit is also spinning with the rocket.
        In modern shells for tornado C, the front end does not rotate, that is, the shell itself rotates, and the guidance unit does not rotate, it is fixed on a hinge / bearing, or I don’t know how.
        In addition, a rotating projectile stabilizes, it is more difficult to deflect it from the trajectory, that is, you have to spend more energy to control it.
        It is also more difficult to organize a deviation, since it rotates several times per second, that is, one or another “rudder” (it doesn’t matter an aerodynamic fin or a gas-dynamic jet) turns out to be several times in the opposite direction in 1 second, that is, using the rudder in a different position deflects the projectile in different directions . And the management of this carousel is much more complicated.
        1. +1
          4 May 2022 12: 36
          And where can I see and read about a non-rotating block? And why not rotate it?
          Again, a spinning rocket is more stable on the trajectory. This means that smaller corrections are needed during the flight.
          Yes, and the MLRS system performs slightly different tasks than the OTRK .. Of course, they need accuracy. But "getting into one window with the whole package" is clearly redundant.
          1. +2
            4 May 2022 13: 06
            On YouTube, it seems that on the channel the star was a movie about a tornado. Now I think all state channels are banned. There you could see about the non-rotating block.
            Yes, a spinning rocket is more stable, so if it flies in the wrong direction, its course is more difficult to correct, the gyroscope effect. For unguided projectiles such as hail, that's what you need. For high-precision weapons, on the contrary, this is a disadvantage.
            Accuracy is very lacking. It’s not that a simple tornado can get into the window with the whole package, you won’t get into a square of 300 × 300 meters with half of the package. Only nightmare.
            And given the size and weight of the shells, the difficulty with the delivery of ammunition, the price of the shells themselves, how many people are involved and the resources spent, then high-precision shells will come out cheaper. It is better to have 12 high-precision projectiles that will hit targets than 144 projectiles that will fly within a radius of several hundred meters. They do damage though.
            For a simple tornado, there are few goals. These are large concentrations of enemy forces.
    2. 0
      4 May 2022 09: 22
      There is a video of arrival (presumably a tornado) at the Regional State Administration in Kharkov, 2 pcs. One in the house, the second near.
    3. +1
      4 May 2022 15: 22
      Tornado is not a high-precision system ...

      MLRS "Smerch" and is not intended to destroy "point targets". Its "typical target" at ranges of 70-90 km has an area of ​​0.5-1 sq. km. For its guaranteed destruction, several hundred missiles with high-explosive fragmentation warheads will be required (that is, it is generally not clear why such warheads are needed), about fifty - with "cassette" ... or one "special"
      As for the "price of the issue" ... I remember that in the "Soviet prices" of the 80s it was also not cheap - in my "diploma" it turned out that from the point of view of the economy it was necessary to use vigorous a variant of this ammunition, worth full-fledged Soviet rubles in "lemons", ... and each "product with a cassette" cost as many as several Zhiguli what
    4. 0
      4 May 2022 20: 23
      "According to Alexander Smirnov, General Director of NPO SPLAV JSC, URS 9M544 and 9M549 became the first MLRS projectiles in which only the tail unit of the missile part rotates around its longitudinal axis in flight, and the missile and warhead parts of the ammunition themselves maintain a static position on the trajectory ." - quote can be found in open sources. To be honest, I don’t understand why they cling to their cutting so much. Now container loading without cutting is everywhere (the same "Polonaise"). But they got out of the situation - well done! (seriously, but with a bit of sarcasm) To be honest, I thought that they came up with some very tricky electronic control with stabilization, including a rotating projectile, but everything turned out to be simpler.
    5. +1
      5 May 2022 23: 41
      The Soviet tornado is good for covering the positions of divisions and corps. During the Cold War, this was necessary, today it is not necessary to cover huge areas, but accuracy.

      In fact, I think you need both. Although it is possible that precision-guided weapons are more applicable in modern wars.
  7. +7
    4 May 2022 08: 06
    The network, and even here on the website and in the VO cart, is full of pictures of the "lunar landscape" after shelling positions with such weapons.
    It is perfectly clear that out of two or three hundred shells, only a few, if at all, hit the target directly or just next to it.
    Those. such a weapon can only frighten the enemy, and destroy it only by accident.
    Yes, and with efficiency everything is very sad. 35 minutes of preparation for shooting - this is who will wait.
    1. +1
      4 May 2022 09: 16
      Read carefully, 35 minutes is reloading after a volley, the volley itself is 30 seconds + a couple of minutes to prepare for it and a couple of minutes to leave the position.
    2. +4
      4 May 2022 11: 16
      The target for the MLRS are large area objects, military and civilian. First of all, airfields for front-line aviation (helicopters, if attack aircraft are lucky), transport hubs, supply bases.

      Let's say you have an airfield, let's conditionally call it "Zyabrovka", 23 kilometers from the border. There you have helicopters, attack aircraft, another five Iskanders were brought in, they covered it all with S-400s and Shells.
      If the bad people bring the MLRS division you missed to the border, they will have a hell of a good day.

      When working on dug-in infantry, MLRS are practically useless.
      1. 0
        4 May 2022 12: 39
        Does digging save infantry from thermobaric?
        1. +2
          4 May 2022 12: 52
          No, if you hit with an accuracy of at least 30 meters.
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  9. -2
    4 May 2022 08: 17
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    All right. Unwinds in the guide, and plumage further helps. The rocket rotates in flight, stabilizing the flight

    How can a rocket spun in the guide rotate in the air with plumage? wink
    1. +1
      4 May 2022 08: 54
      Quote: Luminman
      How can a rocket spun in the guide rotate in the air with plumage?

      What are the contraindications?
      1. +2
        4 May 2022 09: 17
        Quote: Jacket in stock
        What are the contraindications?

        Yes, there are no contraindications, only the rotation of the open plumage will slow down request
        1. +1
          4 May 2022 09: 56
          The plumage will support and enhance the spin. It is enough to substitute it slightly at an angle to the oncoming flow. :)
          1. 0
            4 May 2022 10: 08
            Quote: Monar
            The plumage will support and enhance the spin. It is enough to substitute it slightly at an angle to the oncoming flow. :)

            Thought about it too. But then the question arises about the thrusters in the head. To control them on rotation is still hemorrhoids. Has it been overcomplicated?
            1. +2
              4 May 2022 10: 42
              I think it was relevant for its time. If you look today, then overcomplicated.
              A gyroscope, gas-dynamic rudders, electronics, and all this to give the projectile the position in which it was in the barrel before the shot. The stabilization system works for a couple of seconds. Further, the projectile flies approximately into the "that" square (or rather, an oval) that needs to be hit. KVO hundreds of meters. This approach is justified if the battery / division of tornadoes covers a large accumulation of enemy forces, and not stretched out in a column, but huddled together.
            2. 0
              4 May 2022 11: 22
              Why hemorrhoids? There is only one more variable to calculate. Yes (as far as I saw in the movie :)) all rockets rotate and sway along the longitudinal axis in one way or another.
              1. +1
                4 May 2022 12: 02
                Quote: Monar
                Why hemorrhoids?

                Depends on rotation speed. From a small one, there is no sense in terms of stabilization. On a large one, with what accuracy should an impulse be given to the thrusters? I think it's quite expensive hi
                1. +1
                  4 May 2022 12: 49
                  I don't know how it is practically implemented, but give impetus to the control mechanisms with precision. one hundred thousandth (for example) of a second is not a problem at all. I know this from work.
                  1. +1
                    4 May 2022 15: 19
                    Quote: Monar
                    I don't know how it is practically implemented, but give impetus to the control mechanisms with precision. one hundred thousandth (for example) of a second is not a problem at all. I know this from work.

                    On "now" you are right, but in the 80s of the last century?
                    1. +1
                      4 May 2022 16: 24
                      A hundred-thousandth of a second and in the 80s of the last century was not something out of the ordinary. Of course, everything was heavier and larger, This is from personal experience. :)
                      I suspect that at that time there was an analog control system on the missiles for the Smerch. And for her, such information processing speeds are nothing at all.
                      Sensors and actuators are another matter.
                      1. 0
                        4 May 2022 17: 46
                        OK then. I trust your experience). Let's close the topic hi
                      2. 0
                        4 May 2022 19: 40
                        100% digital.
      2. -1
        4 May 2022 11: 19
        What are the contraindications?

        In aerodynamics winked
  10. 0
    4 May 2022 08: 35
    Now there are statements from the front that ours are being shot down by Smerch missiles, that's how it is.
    1. 0
      4 May 2022 11: 36
      By "shooting down" points, especially MLRS shells, it means that this garbage fell without hitting anything and maybe even without exploding. Considering their accuracy even under Soviet rule and the technical condition 30 years later - and the Ukrainian side with factory extensions is even worse than the Russian side - it is not difficult to report on such "shootdowns".
      1. 0
        5 May 2022 08: 30
        They still say that it was shot down. The same Pantsir or TOR are quite capable of shooting down a Tornado missile, both in size and speed, only the price of such a downing will be very expensive. The same LCD is imprisoned to defeat Grad-type missiles, and even the Smerch blank will be larger.
        1. 0
          5 May 2022 15: 08
          Little do they say. Existing air defense systems, except for artillery, "knock down" the target with a cloud of damaging elements. A warhead that flies along a ballistic trajectory is much less susceptible to damaging elements than an aircraft - it flies under the force of gravity and inertia, and the broken fuselage no longer interferes with it. That is, the damaging element can disable the warhead or disrupt the trajectory, spoiling the aerodynamics - but this is a random event.

          As for the LCD, it works according to the direct hit scheme, in contrast to. Of the Russians, this was only stated for the S-350, which was blown away. It seems that they tried to attach it to the S-400, but did not hear about success.
  11. 0
    4 May 2022 09: 39
    Quote: Beetle1991
    Today, it is not the coverage of huge areas that is required, but accuracy.

    It is also necessary in terms of areas, it just makes less and less sense to use them, for example, to thwart an attack by mining an area. And it seems the author slightly underestimates the air defense capabilities to shoot down such missiles, all the columns are quite successfully covered by it, unless of course not. Well, you understand who? And it turns out that planes are impossible, but MLRS are possible
    1. +2
      4 May 2022 10: 57
      when the battery fires, it’s 48 missiles; if the division is 144, which complex will it digest? hi
  12. 0
    4 May 2022 10: 20
    Reports often show unexploded rockets from a whirlwind or hurricane. Why is this happening? How often does the fuse go off?
    1. +1
      4 May 2022 15: 15
      Quote: RRiv
      Reports often show unexploded rockets from a whirlwind or hurricane. Why is this happening? How often does the fuse go off?

      It's just that journalists often call the "unexploded rocket" the tail section of a regularly used RS with a cassette warhead - 9M55K. The rocket started, flew to a predetermined point, threw out submunitions and flew, already being empty, further - sticking into the ground.

      EMNIP, there was a similar story during the Soviet-Finnish war, when the empty shells of the RRAB (rotatively dispersing bombs - analogues of modern cluster munitions) that fell to the ground were mistaken for unexploded bombs.
      ... there were cases when sappers of the Red Army mistook the tail parts of used RRABs lying on the ground for the tails of air bombs that had gone into the ground and did not explode and detonated such "bombs" in order to neutralize them.
      © Alexey Statsenko. Molotov's breadboxes. Warspot
    2. 0
      5 May 2022 08: 31
      Ukraine has such ancient missiles that in some the fuse stupidly does not work, although any ammunition has a certain percentage of failure, no one has canceled the marriage. It is because of this feature that they are fighting with cluster munitions, there is a failure of up to 20%.
  13. +5
    4 May 2022 10: 32
    MLRS "Smerch": ruthless perfection

    It was already said at VO that a budget intermediate option was needed between the Smerch and Iskander MLRS. 6 missiles in launch canisters, inertial seeker and GLONASS guidance, range 300-400 km.
  14. +2
    4 May 2022 11: 00
    When there was "talk" about the Tornado MLRS, I was sure that it would be a "product", which later turned out to be the Uragan-1M MLRS! I was disappointed when the modernized Grad-M and Smerch-M began to be called "Tornad-G" and "Tornad-S"! development! Calibers 1, 122 (400), 370-600 (tactical missiles) mm, would help get a true "Tornado"! Too bad they didn't!
    By the way, there were also "talks" about the "association" of the Pantsir air defense system and the multifunctional system as part of the Hermes project! ... There is something useful in this!
  15. +1
    4 May 2022 11: 14
    The head picture is Chinese.
    In general, a 300mm rocket is already very powerful for a single shot. And Kamaz 4x4 with 6 of these missiles in the correct version will cause the same amount (or even more) of the classic installation. And you give a container version with a change in caliber. On the same Kamaz, or 6pcs 300mm or a pair of 600mm ...... quite an economy Iskander. But it's better on a BAZ trolley. Kamaz 4x4 we will not see soon now. There is Diesel either Kamens or R-6 and the non-alternative Allison automatic transmission. And BAZ (If anything) and 8x8 are also 10x10 .....
  16. -1
    4 May 2022 11: 17
    Quote: Jacket in stock
    What are the contraindications?

    In the resistance of plumage ... It's like casting against the wind
  17. +4
    4 May 2022 11: 43
    Therefore, the Smerch shells are distinguished by very high accuracy and accuracy. Dispersion of a volley of MLRS "Smerch" does not exceed 0,21% of the firing range.


    Author as usual.

    Such accuracy (hit in a circle with a diameter of 500 meters from a distance of 120 kilometers) is claimed for "corrected" Tornado-S shells. What with these shells and these systems, no one understands exactly.

    And ordinary Tornadoes, with rotation stabilization, have the usual accuracy for MLRS, plus or minus a stop. They are taken by massaging and by the square-nest method.
    1. 0
      4 May 2022 14: 23
      There, not only rotation ... also a correction in the initial section ...... increases accuracy and accuracy.
      1. 0
        4 May 2022 15: 04
        It seems like a correction is declared there only for the 9M542 projectile. And it seems like only for the Tornado, and not the old Tornado.
        1. 0
          4 May 2022 19: 56
          Correction of the initial section .... So that acceleration is stable in the desired trajectory ... ... but there is a final correction
          1. 0
            4 May 2022 22: 11
            Please be more clear. Are you saying that the 9M55K projectile (not to be confused with 9M542) has means of correction in the initial section?
            1. +1
              27 May 2022 08: 10
              Has a brief reference on TTX 9M55K
              https://missilery.info/missile/smerch/9m55k
              Serial production of 9M55K and 9M55K-IN rockets (OBE inert equipment) with trajectory correction system started in 1987
              1. -1
                27 May 2022 08: 27
                Hmm.

                Thank you, I'll clarify this question.
  18. +4
    4 May 2022 14: 51
    From the point of view of terminology and presentation of the factual material, the article is a monstrous construction ... Reading, I literally want to cry, and personally I simply could not read to the end.
  19. +3
    4 May 2022 20: 44
    The accumulation of troops before the offensive? Control communication node? A transport hub crammed with wagons or cars? A fortified area with long-term firing structures? Everything is as in advertising - if you have it, then we fly to you.


    And now show us the full value of this miracle weapon Tornado in a collision with Ukraine...
    Where are the tens of thousands of enemy troops destroyed by Tornado?
    Where are the communication and control centers destroyed by the tornado?
    Where are the transport hubs, filled to capacity with wagons or cars, destroyed by Tornado?

    Fortified areas with long-term firing structures? Are you seriously?

    Maybe just look at the maps of the above objects and at the range of Tornado?
    Well, to understand that Skoromokhov sings praises not at all.


    One advertisement per article.

    Once again I am convinced that our designers and the military live in the Second World War.
    When all of the above was, and after the 80s, nothing like this was already there ...
    But anyway, they developed it as if they were going in 1943.
    1. Fat
      0
      5 May 2022 22: 43
      600 military APU per day did not bother you. Get over this material.
      1. 0
        6 May 2022 10: 57
        Quote: Thick
        600 military APU per day did not bother you. Get over this material.


        Once?
        out of 72 days?
        Purely accidentally covered the brigade on the march?
  20. 0
    5 May 2022 10: 37
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Suffice it to say: "Smerch"! And everyone takes off their hat ... (someone and pants ...)!

    good Author, let me write off!
  21. 0
    14 December 2022 14: 43
    We need new, long-range (up to 200 km), guided munitions of 300 mm caliber. With batch loading.
    And the MLRS "Kama" after completion may well become a tactical missile system. Only now the chassis would not hurt to change both.