Colt Browning - a consistent path to excellence

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Pistol "Colt" M1900. Design based on the 1897 patent. A total of 3500 pistols of this type were made. Naval Museum stories. Washington DC, USA

“Petya stopped, turned sideways and, pulling his heavy Colt out of his pocket with stiff fingers, fired the entire clip at his pursuers without aiming.
Large Colt bullets clacked against trunks and benches, kicking up clouds of snow. Spent shells rang out, automatically flying out one after the other to the side.
Petya put a new clip into the pistol grip and again released it all into a cloud of snow that shimmered in the moonlight like a ghost.

"Winter wind" V. Kataev

stories about weapons. And it so happened that John Moses Browning was first interested in automatic pistols based on the removal of gases from the barrel, and up, and not down, as on his 1895 machine gun, nicknamed the “potato digger” for the lever twitching under the barrel. But ... on the pistol, his lever "twitched" from above, while having a rather large shoulder, and, apparently, this was precisely what he, as well as the manufacturers, did not like. Therefore, from the end of 1896 to 1898, Browning, together with the Colt engineer (full name - Colt's Patent Fire Arms Manufacturing Co.) Fred Moore, continued to work on a more advanced pistol. Moreover, Browning first developed a new .38 caliber cartridge for him - .38 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), and only then created the pistol for it.


Scheme pistol "Colt" M1900 from US patent 1902 No. 708794

In this cartridge, he used a .357 caliber bullet weighing 6,9 g with an initial velocity of 384 m / s. It was of larger caliber than other designs of the time that were 7,62mm or .308 (e.g. 7,62×25mm Tokarev/7,63×25mm Mauser, .32 ACP, etc.). ). Its speed was also higher than the revolver cartridge .38 Long Colt, the bullet of which was, however, heavier - 8,4 g, but the speed was 230 m / s. Bad reviews of the performance of the .38 Long Colt cartridge during the Philippine-American War of 1899-1902 led to the re-adoption of the .45 Colt cartridge and the fact that the War Department set a minimum caliber for the new military pistol, exactly .45.



Colt Browning - a consistent path to excellence
Production model M1900. View from the left. This sample does not have a rear sight fuse! Photo http://www.littlegun.be


Production model M1900. Right view. The location of the corrugation on the casing-gate has been changed. It has been moved to the front. Photo http://www.littlegun.be

Meanwhile, already in 1899, the US War Department decided to hold a competition among the semi-automatic pistols that existed at that time and chose the three most promising samples for testing: the Mauser C96, the unusual Steyr-Mannlicher M1894 with a barrel that extends when fired forward, and the Colt M1900 designed by Browning. Prior to this, the prototype Colt 1900 pistol was submitted to the US Department of Ordnance as early as November 9, 1898, where it was reviewed and tested on November 11, along with Borchard, Mannlicher, Mauser and Bergmann pistols. Based on the tests, the council of officers stated that self-loading pistols were not yet sufficiently developed to replace the revolvers in service, but that work on their improvement should continue. A year later, the Department of Artillery from the company "Colt" was requested an upgraded prototype pistol for re-testing. And although Colt could only provide it in January 1900, the new pistol made a strong impression on the members of the commission with its simplicity, ease of loading, high rate of fire and accuracy compared to the same revolvers.

Re-testing began in February 1900 and included tests for accuracy, reliability, as well as a "dust chamber" and a rust test. Much attention was paid to ergonomics, since the pistol was intended primarily for use by cavalry, which meant that it had to be easily controlled while sitting in the saddle.

Interestingly, after accelerated rusting with ammonia, the pistol was frozen so that the bolt did not move. A sharp blow to the edge of the table with the bolt allowed him, however, to work and fire a shot. After the shot, the bolt did not close, but was easily closed by hand, after which all other cartridges worked without failure. Then another 23 shots were fired without any delay. After a total of 5800 rounds had been fired from the pistol, the only major problem identified was a weakness in the connecting pins on the barrel lugs, which the Ordnance Board found easily remedied and suggested that the Model 1900 be field tested. Thus began a long way to improve this model, ending with the creation and adoption by the American army of the truly legendary Colt M1911A1 pistol.

However, the very first Colt M1900 of the year was a fairly perfect pistol that used an automation system with a recoil shutter with a short barrel stroke. The shutter was locked using three lugs in the upper breech and lugs on the inner surface of the casing-bolt. The shutter was unlocked after the shot, when the barrel, after a short backward stroke, was lowered in a horizontal plane on two hinged earrings. In this case, the rear earring was installed under the chamber, and the front at the muzzle. The shutter casing almost completely covered the barrel and the locking mechanism, protecting them, as well as the trigger mechanism, from dust and dirt.

Unlike the then popular Bergmann and Mauser pistols, the Browning pistol magazine was located inside the handle, and not in front of the trigger guard, which not only reduced the dimensions of the pistol and provided it with a good balance, but also significantly reduced its cost. The pistol's magazine held eight rounds of .32 ACP (7,65×17mm), which at the time was considered ample ammunition for six-shot revolvers. A flat transverse wedge was installed in front of the casing-bolt, which fixed the bolt in the frame and served for the convenience of disassembling the weapon.

Trigger M1900 single action with an open trigger. The trigger had a long curved needle, which made it easy to cock it with the thumb of the hand holding the weapon - that is, first of all, it was convenient for the rider. The trigger had a safety platoon that protected the weapon from an accidental shot. The window for extracting the cartridge cases was made on the right side of the casing-bolt. The sleeves are removed from the chamber by the ejector to the right and up when moving it back.

In general, everyone who had the opportunity to get acquainted with this pistol liked it, so the company began mass production of it already at the beginning of 1900. Well, the first pistols under the name Colt Automatic Pistol entered the commercial sale on February 14, 1900.

The Colt M1900 pistol has a total length of 229 mm, a barrel length of 152 mm, and a weight of 992 grams. In the lower part of the frame at the muzzle, a special hole was provided for installing an auxiliary pin when disassembling the weapon. The sights of the pistol consist of a semicircular front sight and a rear sight. Early versions of the pistol were equipped with a safety catch combined with the entire weapon. When arming, the rear sight goes down. In the lower position of the rear of the rear sight, when the safety is on, its protrusion prevents the movement of the firing pin. To make a shot, the rear sight, respectively, must be moved up. The M1900 pistol was produced for quite a long time - from 1900 to 1923.


Pistol M1902 "Sporting". Produced from 1902 to 1908. Photo http://www.littlegun.be

In 1902, a somewhat improved model M1902 "Sporting" appeared, devoid of a fuse at all, and with an elongated "chopped outline" handle. The military model M1902 was distinguished by the fact that it had a safety located on the left side of the frame, and a lanyard carabiner was added to it at the lower rear of the left handle. A total of 18 copies were produced.


M1902 pistol, military model. The pistol was not adopted for service, but was produced in 1902-1929. Royal Arsenal, Leeds

Thus, the first attempts of John Browning to create a military pistol for the American army at the very beginning of the 1900th century were unsuccessful, although the test of the M1902 model of the year ended very, very successfully. But, despite the fact that neither this model nor the 1900 model of the year got into the army, they were mass-produced for many years, entered the market and were in demand on it, although not as popular as the one he created for the Belgian enterprise FN pistol MXNUMX with a lower barrel.


Belgian FN1900 Browning pistol with holster and 24-round 7,65-mm pack. Photo http://www.littlegun.be

To be continued ...
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  1. +9
    21 May 2022 06: 02
    Good morning, comrades! smile
    Thanks to Vyacheslav for the continuation of an interesting series. good
    There is nothing to add, only photos.

    Colt 1900.

    Colt 1902.

    1. +5
      21 May 2022 06: 25
      And thank you! Photos are interesting. Especially the bottom ones.
      1. +1
        7 June 2022 15: 42
        Thanks for the article with less than 10 photos! Finally, otherwise reposting is not convenient!
        1. 0
          7 June 2022 16: 44
          I understand you. But VO readers just like articles with more than 10 photos. Directly they write to me - 20 let's!!!
    2. +3
      21 May 2022 09: 43
      Good day everyone! I will add only one thing, this is what is called "volyn" wink Olegovich thanks from the bottom of my heart hi
    3. +5
      21 May 2022 10: 22
      Hi Uncle Kostya!
      Interested in the second photo, what is this key in the cell next to the pistol grip?
      1. +4
        21 May 2022 10: 36
        Hello Anton!
        Yes, most likely from the lock on this box. smile
        1. +4
          21 May 2022 10: 40
          I thought so too, but decided to ask again.
          1. +4
            21 May 2022 10: 57
            And it would be funny - a gun and "the key to the apartment where the money is." wink
            1. +4
              21 May 2022 10: 59
              "I respect the Criminal Code!" (FROM)
              1. +5
                21 May 2022 11: 13
                "I honor the Criminal Code!"

    4. +2
      21 May 2022 10: 45
      Ivory cheeks? Haven't made pearl ones yet?
      1. +7
        21 May 2022 11: 05
        The cheeks could be from anything, and mother-of-pearl overlays have been made since the "time of King Pea". smile
        In the photo "Savage", a contemporary of this "Colt".
  2. +3
    21 May 2022 06: 27
    The Colt M1900 pistol has a total length of 229 mm, a barrel length of 152 mm, and a weight of 992 grams.
    Of course, the length of the barrel immediately catches your eye. Compared to the PM - 93,5 mm, it looks quite long.
    I am silent about the caliber, the 45th is the 45th in Africa. Blueing also looks good, although it may have lain indoors all the time.
    1. +3
      21 May 2022 09: 51
      Eh, to scare the crucian carp with such a gun, which right now I stubbornly do not peck!)))
  3. 0
    21 May 2022 06: 46
    FN1900 with holster and 24-round pack
    - misprint?
    1. +3
      21 May 2022 07: 29
      The box says 25, which means a typo.
      1. +12
        21 May 2022 09: 18
        As they say, do not believe what is written. There is an old anecdote about this, alas, I can’t bring it here. wassat laughing
        1. +5
          21 May 2022 10: 15
          Good morning, Kostya!)))
          Good morning everybody!
          The cheerful drawing about "rock painting" posted by you, Kostya, allows me to contribute to this topic ...
          The other day, at one of Vyacheslav Olegovich's forums, I recalled the song "The Sound of Silence" by Simon and Garfunkel as an application of soft power to an ideological adversary. Like, read the inscriptions of the "enlighteners" on the walls of the metro, where they leave their messages, but in our opinion - on the fence! And I couldn’t remember why this topic suddenly touched me. And only yesterday it came - I remembered!
          It means that I am walking on that ill-fated day past the blank end wall of the neighboring three-story building and I see that part of the decorative foundation has been broken off, fragments of brick mixed with crumble are lying on the asphalt, and on top there is an inscription - "ACHTOP".
          Look at you, I thought then, that's bad luck. Not "Vasya was here," but there was a certain Achtop - a Caucasian, an Asian? Well, the name Ashot reminded me a lot! Surprised, I moved on.
          And so, tonight I remember:
          -- ACHTOP!
          Yes, it's like "the author (after two "f", instead of "o" "a" is used, the robot does not miss) on foot ischo! This is Newspeak!
          - And so that! .... And so that you! ... And so that it was empty for all of you! ...
          A curse sent in Russia to the enemy. Who sent and to whom? If they are drug dealers, then they live on the other side of the three-story building. On that day, a lot of different people were hanging out in the village. Caucasians and Asians, but they used to hang out before. True, on this day we also met some previously unseen ones - small plump, cheerful, talkative crowds, settled down in the shops in the center. And - a dove is lying nearby, its head is unscrewed and also lying nearby ... Refugees from Ukraine, there were especially many of them. Poorly dressed, miserable, shabby. And -- a voluptuous young blonde beauty with a doll-like face, in short, out-of-season shorts, with tattoos above her knees. And in the store - a smiling, bright-eyed brunette, in a T-shirt, also out of season, all in Nazi tattoos (I learned them in a telegram). The next day, none of the refugees were gone. But the inscription remains:
          -- ACHTOP!!!
          Fragments of bricks have been removed, the inscription has not been erased. ACHTOP....
          1. +4
            21 May 2022 10: 33
            I found this on the net - IISSOR ACHTOP wassat ⁠⁠, and there is no explanation for what it is, with this, probably to the underdogs. request

            Good morning, Luda. smile
            1. +4
              21 May 2022 11: 55
              Quote: Sea Cat
              ACHTOP

              Perhaps as an option.
              "And so ..."? Well, did literacy let you down? It happens. Even here on "history"? Sometimes, huh? laughing laughing laughing
            2. +3
              21 May 2022 13: 01
              IISSOR ACHTOP


              Kostya, I did not find the decoding of the inscription you presented, although I made a fair amount of effort. But I found something. It turns out that youth groups develop their own graphic designations and mark their territory with them. Like, don't bother. Perhaps yours is one of those. It is also like a call sign.
              In general, from the wall revelations I liked: "Do not lose heart anywhere!"
              1. +4
                21 May 2022 13: 16
                Quote: depressant
                Kostya, I did not find the decoding of the inscription you presented, although I made a fair amount of effort

                You have to read backwards. Now they do a lot through the back. Post office.
                1. +3
                  21 May 2022 13: 28
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  You have to read backwards. Now they do a lot through the ass

                  It's like?!?!? Well, surprised!
                  1. 0
                    21 May 2022 13: 34
                    Quote: Phil77
                    What is it like?!!!

                    If cultural - then from right to left. But I don't like culture.
                2. +3
                  21 May 2022 14: 20
                  Vladimir, good afternoon! )))
                  But it doesn’t work out.
                  See:
                  ACHTOP ---->> POTCHA.
                  Not "mail"!
                  At the same time, the meaning of this IISSOR ACHTOP becomes especially threatening.
                  1. +1
                    21 May 2022 14: 31
                    Quote: depressant
                    See:
                    ACHTOP ---->> POTCHA.

                    Guest workers got the letters mixed up.
                    1. +3
                      21 May 2022 17: 56
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Guest workers got the letters mixed up.

                      Damn;;;;;They are real. Got it!;;;
                      So we lived without them, so what?
                  2. +2
                    21 May 2022 17: 53
                    I came? She confused everyone .. Even me. laughing
                    1. +2
                      21 May 2022 19: 01
                      A hobby is to find and place some absurdities of life under bright lamps wassat )))
                      And we also have on the window of the annex, which was once a shop, the inscription "Hachi, go home!" Uzbeks wrote. The Armenians who tried to sell vegetables left. The inscription remains, the extension is empty, no one occupies it. Edification. Small criminal showdowns between emigrants. Like in America laughing )))
                3. +2
                  21 May 2022 22: 36
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: depressant
                  Kostya, I did not find the decoding of the inscription you presented, although I made a fair amount of effort

                  You have to read backwards. Now they do a lot through the back. Post office.

                  Thank you! And then I thought that no one would guess!
              2. +5
                21 May 2022 13: 21
                "Bird language", let them chirp as they want, but the current illiteracy has already ceased to amaze. Soviet school, where are you!!!
                1. +4
                  21 May 2022 16: 06
                  Soviet school, where are you!!!
                  In the same place as the USSR.
                2. +3
                  21 May 2022 18: 21
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Soviet school, where are you!!!

                  Can this be attributed to "aster"? laughing
                  1. +1
                    21 May 2022 18: 29
                    I don't know, I was smoking Prima then. wink
              3. +1
                22 May 2022 06: 11
                Quote: depressant
                IISSOR ACHTOP


                Kostya, I did not find the decoding of the inscription you presented, although I made a fair amount of effort. But I found something. It turns out that youth groups develop their own graphic designations and mark their territory with them. Like, don't bother. Perhaps yours is one of those. It is also like a call sign.

                This was true in the US in the 50s and 60s. Graffiti itself was born there, as an irony over these gangs.
                Today they distinguish between "graffiti" and "street art". The first "message" to the initiates, the second "to all."
          2. +4
            21 May 2022 11: 14
            Yooo! How many letters and expressions for a simple inscription. Was it worth it? Although? Yes. Most importantly, the brick fragments were removed. laughing Hello, friends!
          3. +3
            21 May 2022 11: 27
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, work was going on yesterday, and on the wall of the house there was an inscription in large red letters: "Attention, I will come and slaughter" instead of a signature: a swastika. And the paint is fresh. By evening, the inscription was slightly painted over.
            We have a lot of nonsense written on the walls: "I will give innocence," "Love me like you." But haven't seen this one yet. It was uncomfortable: is it possible that the ideas of fascism are being revived?
            1. +4
              21 May 2022 11: 45
              Quote from lisikat2
              fascism is resurgent?

              Katenka, no! Ideas of Nazism. Well, what do you want, dear? Moscow. See the Russian janitor, huh? Paris? Arabs? Berlin? The last invasion? And mind you!!!! That they don’t want to “be like everyone else”. They want to live in their own way, but ....? laughing
              And? Also!
              1. +3
                21 May 2022 12: 04
                As for the "Russian janitor", I can't say anything: I live far from Moscow and even from Moskovskaya Street.
                I haven’t seen you in a hijab yet, although I live in the Caucasus, but there are a lot of black tents. Some of them even suit, but there are those who look worse. It's strictly individual.
                PS
                What do I agree with you: there are periods, what do you guess - Russia or the Central Asian region?
                1. +2
                  21 May 2022 12: 14
                  Quote from lisikat2
                  far from Moscow and even from Moskovskaya street.
                  I haven’t seen you in a hijab yet, although I live in the Caucasus, but there are a lot of black tents. Some of them are even to the faces

                  Oh, and a lot of them divorced in Moscow !!! Thank God that the neighbors are still Russian. Although? There are already “these” in the entrance. My advice. , with Konstantin, city ..
                  This is not the Moscow that was. Understand.
              2. +5
                21 May 2022 15: 24
                Moscow. See the Russian janitor, eh?


                Remember your childhood, in Moscow even before the janitors were only Tatars ..
                1. +3
                  21 May 2022 16: 09
                  in Moscow, even before the janitors were only Tatars ..
                  In Moscow, the Tatars have been janitors since the capture of Kazan by Ivan the Terrible.
                2. +2
                  21 May 2022 18: 23
                  So they are Tatars
                  1. +1
                    21 May 2022 18: 32
                    Seryozha, what am I talking about. Wipe your eyes. laughing
                    1. +1
                      22 May 2022 06: 46
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Wipe your eyes

                      Good morning!
                      Not so long ago, but it seems like a long time ago. We had a couple of pensioners working for us, Russians. They worked normally. Diligently. But! One day. bully
                3. +1
                  22 May 2022 07: 02
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Tatars

                  Yes, there was a Tatar janitor on Samotyok. He always cleaned with his wife. He ran into our entrance together with a "chekushka". Oopsss from the throat and again with a shovel! bully
                  1. 0
                    22 May 2022 17: 01
                    "And the fight continues again"? wink drinks
        2. +4
          21 May 2022 11: 32
          Quote: Sea Cat
          do not believe what is written. There is an old anecdote about this, alas, bring it here

          And there is also ... a fragment of a song by V.S. Vysotsky about ... a Parisian toilet. No?
          1. +2
            21 May 2022 19: 17
            Come on, all of you! wassat )))
            Here we are in the village together drove away the Tajik janitors, only the Russians remained. Cleanliness is absolute! True, there is a suspicion that it was like a pre-election promise of the new mayor. There are no elections, there is competition, which means who will get more good appeals from citizens to the governor. The current one got more wassat )))
            1. +1
              21 May 2022 21: 32
              Here we are in the village together drove the Tajik janitors,
              We have an Uzbek janitor. No complaints, works diligently. Former teacher of Russian language and literature. In Uzbekistan, he was not needed.
              1. +4
                22 May 2022 08: 14
                Sergey, good morning! )))
                Because Russians were not needed in Uzbekistan! True, Russians from Uzbekistan, for the most part, did not come to court in Russia either. Sometimes I wonder: are we really needed anywhere? With our poor flexibility under circumstances? Forged, forged, but not reforged. And now we have raised the degree of forging. What will become of us?
                1. +2
                  22 May 2022 10: 13
                  Good morning, Lyudmila. From the beginning of the 30s to the beginning of the 90s, all my relatives on my father's side lived in Uzbekistan, in Namangan. And I somehow got used to consider Uzbeks as my own, although my father, when we were there for the last time in 1971, noted with alarm that the new generation of Uzbeks had become completely different. Well, in today's Russia, not only Russians from Uzbekistan are not needed, the oligarchs do not need anyone at all, except for uncomplaining lackeys.
  4. +6
    21 May 2022 10: 24
    Hello, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    Congratulations on your professional military holiday, Military Translator Day!
    1. +4
      21 May 2022 11: 29
      Please, let me! I'm nearby. I join in the congratulations! Hooray for you, "translated." Konstantinov has a good book on this topic. laughing
    2. +3
      21 May 2022 11: 43
      I join in the congratulations! Olegycha Happy Holidays! good drinks
    3. +2
      21 May 2022 17: 50
      And it's true! Oh thank you Anton. For the first time I am congratulated on this holiday, although - yes, I have a diploma. True, he did not work a day in his specialty, fortunately.
      1. +2
        21 May 2022 18: 00
        Well, what the heck, work on your diploma military specialty!
        This is an unambiguous universal nuclear holocaust!
        1. +2
          21 May 2022 18: 09
          My comrade was the deputy commander of a tank regiment. Went to Afghanistan. First day. Poked around in the motor. A rocket has landed. The explosion threw him to the ground in a puddle. Swallowed - typhoid. And they were treated in Tashkent for half a year. It was exactly a day. And another interpreter... translated in a tent. They brought a prisoner. He: "Where is the commander? I'll tell him." The commander approached - he exploded with him. Did not find a charge on it! The translator remained alive, but he was covered in blood... and... in a word, he had a nervous breakdown and also went to Tashkent.
  5. +3
    21 May 2022 10: 39
    I liked the description of the long journey, in the words of the Author, to improve this model, which ended with "the creation and adoption by the American army of the truly legendary Colt M1911A1 pistol."
    For the cavalry! wassat )))
    Well, of course, not only for them.
    1. +4
      21 May 2022 11: 16
      Quote: depressant
      M1911A1"

      In "Titanic" he appeared in the main villain? bully
      1. +6
        21 May 2022 11: 48
        In "Titanic" he appeared in the main villain?


        Did this one mean? The main villains always have beautiful pistols. bully



        The shutter casing seems long, but maybe this is the angle?
        1. +1
          21 May 2022 12: 01
          How about this?
          1. +2
            21 May 2022 12: 09
            But in this photo you can clearly see that the casing-shutter is long. Movie ploy, most likely. Alec Baldwin ran with two of these in the movie Shadow.
            1. +3
              21 May 2022 12: 34
              Quote: Sea Cat
              - the shutter is long

              What is interesting. A lot was raised from the side. Even .... gold, diamonds. laughing But? Pistols not found Although? There were seven of them.
              1. +3
                21 May 2022 12: 50
                There were seven of them.

                Who counted? Although ... I would, in such a situation, just leave the gun.
                As they used to say in one old movie: "You need to feed the unarmed soldiers, the armed ones will feed themselves." And in relation to the Titanic disaster - go ahead and forbid something to a man with a weapon, it's easier to let him into the boat than to arrange a shootout. So, those who had guns, those with them, along with them, moved from the Titanic to the boats.
                1. +2
                  21 May 2022 12: 54
                  Never mind!!! All the senior officers had guns. Three people were saved.
                  1. +2
                    21 May 2022 12: 56
                    Did the passengers check their pockets?
                    1. +3
                      21 May 2022 13: 03
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      pockets

                      No, of course. But. Officially, there were just so many pistols on board. By the way, which ones are not indicated. Nowhere. But! It is clearly stated that Wilde and Lightoiler distributed them. For?
                      1. +2
                        21 May 2022 13: 16
                        How many people were on board? Just think about what these people could have in their pockets. request
                      2. +2
                        21 May 2022 13: 25
                        However. The landing was civilized. There is no comparison with "Estonia".
                      3. +1
                        21 May 2022 13: 28
                        Your words:
                        The shooting on board was
                        Fucking civilized. laughing
                      4. +2
                        21 May 2022 13: 38
                        "Who doesn't drink??" *C* laughing
                    2. +1
                      21 May 2022 13: 05
                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      did you check your pockets?

                      There was shooting on board. Eyewitnesses wrote about this. But? Gentlemen die in silence.
                      1. +3
                        21 May 2022 13: 17
                        Believing eyewitnesses is the last thing, any investigator will tell you that.
                      2. +2
                        21 May 2022 13: 22
                        Well, no. And who then to believe? Witnesses.
                      3. +3
                        21 May 2022 13: 31
                        And who then to believe?


                        Gruppenführer Müller! laughing

                      4. +3
                        21 May 2022 13: 39
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Gruppenführer Müller!

                        Well ..... thoughtfully so. Lavrentiy Palych?
                      5. 0
                        21 May 2022 13: 46
                        "But Lavrenty Beria lost his trust" (c)
            2. +1
              21 May 2022 23: 00
              "Shutter too long"
              It could be a Colt 1911 long slide....
          2. +4
            21 May 2022 23: 42
            hi
            He seems to be: "At some point, Cal Hockley (Billy Zane) grabs an M1911 from Lovejoy's shoulder holster and chases Jack (Leonardo DiCaprio) and Rose (Kate Winslet) through the sinking ship. The M1911 came from Stembridge Gun Rentals. It was chosen because the date of the patent made it plausible."

            Although people immediately criticize this choice:
            "The Model 1911 was not available for sale to civilians until August 1912, and even then it was only a 100-piece series available only to select members of the NRA (sales to the general public began the following year). Also, the ejection port looks much lower, than at the time.It also looks like it has a curved A1 mainspring case and cutouts near the trigger.Colt 1902 or Pocket Hammerless 1903/1908 would be more suitable. -- Maxman (talk) 22:17, December 6, 2017 .(EST)"
            "They could have used one of the early Colt pistols that were the forerunners of the 1911, like the Model 1900 or 1902 Colt."
            http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Titanic_(1997)#M1911_.28Nickel_Engraved.29
        2. +1
          21 May 2022 23: 34
          hi
          The main villains always have beautiful pistols.
          scoundrel or not - depends on the point of view ... especially when viewed through the rear sight.

          But beauty is a terrible force, sometimes with a bust, sometimes with an unsuccessful parting in the hair. smile :


          Well, there are options for everyone.
          1. +1
            22 May 2022 17: 00
            Good afternoon, friend Kitty! smile
            It sounds beautiful - parting with enumeration. good But only busting turns beauty into a banal bad taste, there is enough philistinism in the thoughtless decoration of weapons. Lack of taste and sense of proportion, what can you do here ... request
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          22 May 2022 00: 30
          hi
          And some more beautiful pistols and villains:


  6. +2
    21 May 2022 10: 59
    And now, I just went to the VO telegram to read the missed yesterday, as well as the new one, and found this:

    "The FSB of Russia in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region, together with the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation for the Baltic Fleet and the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, detained persons distributing inscriptions discrediting the activities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

    The alleged perpetrators applied inscriptions to cultural heritage sites in the Primorsky District.

    In relation to the detainees, an inspection is being carried out, the issue of initiating a criminal case is being decided.

    And a photo is attached. Time is 23:54.
    Here they are, "Achtops". They may well be local.
    By the way, on telegram there are a lot of stories and shows in action of modern lethal equipment, and not a word about pistols. They complain that the fighters are not given knives. Few trained in knife fighting.
    1. +1
      21 May 2022 11: 18
      Yes, hell, take it! The weather is lovely! And it took you to the Internet, huh? lol laughing laughing
      Me? It's different!
      1. +4
        21 May 2022 11: 41
        Seryoga, not parts" Take it every other time, the morning is still in the yard. laughing drinks
      2. +3
        21 May 2022 11: 45
        Now I'm sitting and scratching my turnips: what kind of cultural heritage sites can there be in the Primorsky district of St. Petersburg? Well, except for the obelisk at the site of the duel between Pushkin and the datsan...
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          21 May 2022 12: 03
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Primorsky district of St. Petersburg

          Purkua pa?; Moscow region, amigo! Moscow region! And the weather? Pretty!
        2. +4
          21 May 2022 12: 05
          They made an inscription, so the local toilet turned into an object of cultural significance, and before that it was just a latrine. laughing
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            21 May 2022 12: 26
            A ??? If you remove the inscription? laughing Oh, Kolya and I disagreed, eh
            ?
            He is a "special operation" to me! laughing
            And I to him
            "CSKA-CHAMPION!".
            And? We had a fight
            1. +2
              21 May 2022 12: 53
              It would be something to get on each other's nerves. By God, like children. But in general, comparing the Civil Massacre with a sports show is the height ... well, I think everything is clear.
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                21 May 2022 13: 42
                Quote: Sea Cat
                actually comparing the Civil Slaughter with a sports show is the height ... well, I think, and so everything is clear.

                Yes, okay. We disagreed. He is "for", I? Against. For? Not all methods of influence were used. My opinion.
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                21 May 2022 16: 06
                Quote: Sea Cat
                I think, and so everything is clear.

                That's how they went to the Civil War! Brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor. Ehhhhh !!!! Friends????!!!!! the movie looked?
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                  21 May 2022 16: 19
                  did you watch the movie?


                  Not yet, not the mood.
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                    21 May 2022 16: 24
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    Not yet, not the mood

                    I understand. But... I don't approve.
                    Although? Also the mood ... not that.
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                      21 May 2022 16: 31
                      Go to the Armada, people argued there.)))
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      21 May 2022 13: 15
      Quote: depressant
      knives. Few trained in knife fighting.
      Reply

      Here, damn it, it was given to you, eh? Lyudmila Yakovlevna! I love and .... stop, pliz. Sorry! Let's go through history
      1. +1
        21 May 2022 14: 13
        Yes, history is what happened in the past. But there are such segments of historical time that fit into less than one human life - such that an event that occurred at the beginning of a time segment and already recognized as historical, suddenly repeats itself at its end.
        And then it may turn out that a person who has experienced this event once and has not departed from his memories is unlike professional historians! - such a person perceives a new event as a natural continuation of the past, and he gets the feeling that he, this unfortunate person, never left the event. He lived and continues to live in it.
        It's called wasted life.
        Because you can't start wars too often!
        Even if politicians are itching to defend their power over this world. You can be left without healthy subjects, or even without them at all.
        However, they don't care.
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          21 May 2022 16: 12
          Quote: depressant
          to be left without healthy subjects, or even without them at all.
          However, they don't care

          And to you? With Kolya, we already .... disagreed. With you? Is it worth it?
          I am against any war. Yes! Moreover, that war which is my homeland .....
    3. +1
      21 May 2022 16: 15
      Here they are, "Achtops". They may well be local.
      Lyudmila Yakovlevna, of course local. There are quite enough scum around, it’s on the Internet for various slogans and calls they began to be caught, but hands have not yet reached for fouling the walls. It all depends on the local authorities, for sure the police department has a dossier on all the youngsters who are capable of it.
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    21 May 2022 12: 05
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Seryoga, not parts" Take it every other time, the morning is still in the yard. laughing drinks

    I try. But???? It turns out through "time". laughing
    Just like in the army "Fell-wrung out!;!!"
    laughing
  8. +2
    21 May 2022 12: 43
    So, by the way, I asked what is there in the Primorsky district of St. Petersburg from the sights.
    And there are them there:
    "The Church of the Annunciation, built in the 300th century; Shishmarev's dacha, which now houses a children's art school; the only ancient Buddhist temple in St. Petersburg; Kolomyazhskaya Mosque, the Alexander Nevsky Chapel, the park of the XNUMXth anniversary of St. Petersburg.

    Of interest here are such places as the Townhouse on Zemledelchesky Lane, Specific Park, Bogatyrsky Prospekt, the House with an Arch, etc. Once upon a time, there were many beautiful estates in the areas of Olgino, Lakhta, Kolomyagi, Lisy Nos. It is sad that most of them were lost after the revolution, during the Great Patriotic War and after under Soviet rule.

    Today, there are 19 Orthodox churches and chapels in the Primorsky District; in 2009, a mosque for 1000 worshipers was opened on Kolomyagi. The following attractions are of great interest to tourists: Stroganovskaya Dacha, Saltykova Dacha, Restoration and Storage Center of the Hermitage..."
    Other.

    Well, in any case, Atchtopam has a place to turn around.
    1. 0
      21 May 2022 13: 56
      Quote: depressant
      Well, in any case, Atchtopam has a place to turn around.

      This is called ... Well, graffiti, so what?
  9. +2
    21 May 2022 15: 30
    hi
    I already posted the full story of 1911.
    So I’ll add another video from the old Ian “Vogotten Veapons” about the early Colts of 1900 and 1902 (I already wrote how to translate titles):

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    22 May 2022 13: 22
    Poor reviews of the performance of the .38 Long Colt cartridge during the Philippine-American War of 1899-1902 led to the re-adoption of the .45 Colt cartridge...
    In the Philippines, there was a specific enemy - a warlike tribe, where men knew how to put themselves into a "state of voluntary insanity" if you use Japanese terminology (samurai). So, in the general case, redundancy is built into the caliber. Now it’s quite possible to switch to cal.38, which would increase the magazine capacity by 1 cartridge, which would somehow be psychologically more comfortable and improve ballistic characteristics - higher initial bullet speed, accuracy and effective firing range, penetration of obstacles. Although, of course, it is also available in this caliber. I had to hold in my hands a sports version of the Colt-1911 chambered for 9X19 Luger. The aesthetic and ergonomic impressions are good, the aesthetics are only, in my opinion, some kind of specific - they overdid it with the length of the "beaver tail", and in terms of application this is hardly needed, it fits quickly and correctly even with a short one in the hand.