Polish Army

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Polish Army

From the past to the future


For Poland, all of it history the army was the subject of vigilant concern. Having restored their independence after the First World War, the Poles did not reach the superpower, but they were able to create a strong army:

by the morning of September 1, 1939, Poland deployed 24 infantry divisions, 3 mountain infantry, 8 cavalry and 1 armored brigades, more than 1 million people in total.

This was complemented by good by the standards of a second-rate country fleet and a powerful border guard corps. It did not help, and could not help, but the Germans suffered losses, and the Poles somehow held out for a month, which in those conditions was a success. The greatest possible success.



The current Polish Army began to form in 1943 in the Selets camps near Ryazan. First, the 1 Kosciuszko Infantry Division, then the army. In total, two armies were formed, there were plans to create a Polish front. The Poles took an active part in the battles of the final stage of the Second World War, being the largest army of the allies of the USSR in Eastern Europe.

They did not suffer as part of the Department of Internal Affairs, by the time of its collapse, the Polish People's Army was 300 thousand military personnel, 3 tanks, 3 aviation divisions, powerful air defense, armed with S-200 and S-125 systems, a good fleet and a personnel reserve. In principle, the Polish army in all respects was inferior only to the army of the GDR and was numerically comparable to the armies of the European members of NATO.

In the 90s, all this power began to fade, because the supply of Soviet weapons ceased, but, having their own military-industrial complex and claiming to be the main force of the alliance in Eastern Europe, the Poles managed to maintain a strong army.

Contemporaneity


Poland is constantly increasing the size of the army, now it is 155 thousand people (together with the defense), it is planned to increase it to 300 thousand people. Technique is pretty good too.

- 985 tanks, including 250 Leopards. It is planned to purchase 250 "Abrams". At the same time, the Poles produce their own licensed version of the T-72;

– 1 BMPs, mostly Soviet BMP-300s;

- up to 900 wheeled AFVs;

- 431 self-propelled howitzers;

- 180 MLRS;

- 28 Mi-24 helicopters, at least 24 Bayraktar UAVs;

- 48 F-16 fighter-bombers and an unclear number of serviceable Soviet aircraft (Su-22 and MiG-29). There are plans to purchase the F-35.

The Poles also have a good fleet - three old submarines, two frigates (USA), two corvettes and three missile boats.

Of course, not everything is so simple, for example, according to Soviet aircraft, there is a version that they could not be transferred to Ukraine due to their technical condition, but for tanks:

As for the T-72M1s currently in the possession of the Polish Army, four tank battalions are equipped with them and it is planned to form another of the stocks of equipment (144 T-72M / M1 tanks are used as training tanks or are in storage, in addition, there are 210 tanks in long-term storage T-72 of various modifications). A number of experts claim that of all combat vehicles of this type, only 270 units are on the move.

Having them in general and having combat-ready ones are two different things. The weak point of Poland and air defense, but it is strengthened by Britain and the United States. In general, the Poles have a small but well-trained army, capable of doubling its size through mobilization.

Prospects


I won’t talk about drawing NATO into the conflict, this is unscientific fiction, but the actions of Poland separately ...

In theory, without caring about the Belarusian border, which will be covered by the alliance troops stationed in Poland, and those that can be quickly transferred there from Germany, the Polish Army can occupy Western Ukraine in a matter of days, since there is no one to resist there, the Armed Forces of Ukraine in that region have two or three brigades and up to a dozen combat aircraft. Yes, and they will not resist in the current situation, in fact, a mirror golden September will come out, when the Poles fought with the Wehrmacht, but surrendered to the Red Army, with rare exceptions.

Another issue is the risk of a collision with the RF Armed Forces, and the possible counter-operation of Minsk in Volyn, which will inevitably lead to a clash between the Polish Army and the Russian-Belarusian forces. Moreover, the behavior of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this situation is also unpredictable, up to a truce with us in the Zhytomyr-Kyiv region and the transfer of a number of brigades to the West.

This kind of operation carries two risks for the Poles:

- the likelihood of a full-scale war with Russia, with strikes on Polish territory from the Kaliningrad region, which will put NATO as a whole in an uncomfortable position;

- with the resistance of the Ukrainians, all this will turn from a peacekeeping operation into a division of Ukraine, where for the West, which is a prisoner of their propaganda, the Poles will act as aggressors.

It is impossible to underestimate the enemy, the Poles have a quite powerful and professional army, but not enough to intervene in conflicts of this magnitude alone, and the political factor plays against their aspirations. Again, it will be difficult to annex the occupied territories, so Polish dreams are Polish dreams, and the real probability of their implementation tends to zero. Will there be a reliable guarantee that Russia will not respond?
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  1. +8
    26 March 2022 03: 34
    The main question in the dispute is whether there will be enough Calibers and Iskanders for Poland?
    1. +9
      26 March 2022 06: 04
      Yars is enough. Yes The outfit is enough.
      1. +10
        26 March 2022 11: 34
        And if without children's "funny" jokes about ICBMs in Poland? Turn on your head - like a THREE-STAGE!!! Can an ICBM with a range of 12k km hit a European country?
        She physically cannot fly close, even at 6k if shooting from Irkutsk, because. until the three stages work out, it will not return to the atmosphere. To shoot at Poland, you need a two-stage ICBM. Or tactics - like ballistic Iskanders.
        1. +6
          26 March 2022 16: 31
          There are boats in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the North Atlantic, again, someone has not canceled special ammunition on cruise missiles.
        2. +9
          26 March 2022 22: 05
          Of course it's hard to believe it from the couch. In their world, an ICBM is such a huge rocket from the Grad, but it only flies far.
          Well, shit ..... We will not dissuade them, because we can cause irreparable harm to a hamster living in his cozy little world.
          1. 0
            29 March 2022 16: 34
            "Polish Army..."
            The Home Army, or the People's Army?
            1. 0
              April 3 2022 18: 49
              Quote: vlad106
              "Polish Army..."
              The Home Army, or the People's Army?

              Even with the British, Andersen's Army fought together ...
        3. +10
          27 March 2022 20: 28
          Do not talk nonsense.
          ICBM Topol-M was tested for use in 2.5 thousand km. From Kapustin Yar to Sary Shagan they let me in.
          And I was tired of these strange conversations that they say the BR cannot fly close.
          MAYBE. At least he can get into his own mine.
          For BR, technically there is no difference whether to hit 10 thousand km or 100 km. The question is only in the decision on ballistics. If there is a correctly formed ballistic task, then it will fly where it has enough energy.

          But yes, of course, it’s easier for her to fly to 10K, there are no questions here :)
          1. 0
            22 June 2022 00: 20
            ICBM Topol-M was tested for use in 2.5 thousand km. From Kapustin Yar to Sary Shagan they let me in.

            Specifically when? What was the apogee? Flight time?

            If you write nonsense, then at least think before writing
            For the first time in history, the treaty made it possible to eliminate a whole class of weapons: the parties pledged to destroy all ballistic complexes and medium ground-based cruise missiles (1000—5500 km) and shorter (from 500 to 1000 km) range, as well as do not produce, do not test and not deploy such missiles in the future. In accordance with the Treaty, the parties were to destroy all launchers and ground-based missiles with a radius actions from 500 to 5500 kilometers, including missiles on both the European and in Asian territory the USSR

            Ordered to live long in 2019
            For BR, technically there is no difference whether to hit 10 thousand km or 100 km

            This is total bullshit...
            1. 0
              22 June 2022 15: 37
              1. Is it difficult for you to google the application of Topol-M from Kapustin to Sary-Shagan? November 28, 2019. Request data from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
              2. Thought what? Ordered to live long? So what?
              3. Do you have any technical solution why "this is nonsense"? Of course, flights at different distances and different altitudes require different solutions, but the BR CAN go as far as 100 km.
              Another thing is that no one has ever developed appropriate ballistic solutions. And yes, of course, there is no need to talk about the KVO, what is there.

              In general, you have fewer emotions and more numbers. :) Sorry for being direct.
              1. 0
                22 June 2022 16: 03
                1. The burden of proof lies with the one who claims something.
                Otherwise, you become similar to Mikhalkov (insanity and overestimated CHSV)

                PySy: let's say I don't know how to google (option 2)
                2. Nothing. What can be answered to the children's "so what?"?
                To declare about launches for 2500 km when the INF Treaty was in effect is to flog nonsense and expose your own country to obstruction.
                3. Yes, but this is an entire article. My VUS and civil
                specialty is rockets, specifically liquid ones.
                What are the "ballistic" solutions? This online trajectory calculator will give.
                Only the breeding block will not work.
                In general, you have fewer emotions and more numbers. :) Sorry for being direct.

                1. Let me decide how and what to do. I'm already an adult. If I violated something: throw a slander
                2. I have both numbers and links, you just have chatter
                4. I am not touchy.
                Like a certain lady Olga Zyablik, I will not fall into hysterics.
                Didn't see straight.
                However, don't be offended either.
                1. 0
                  23 June 2022 15: 54
                  1. One more time. November 28 launched a rocket at the required distance. What are you up to?
                  2. If you don't know how to google, learn. This is your future.
                  3. You agreed that the missiles could hit their own mine. This is already a plus. We started with this. Thanks for the confirmation.
                  4. You are an adult. Well done.
                  5.6. - I don’t know who Olga Zyablik is, and I don’t want to know.

                  Thank you.
        4. 0
          April 3 2022 18: 47
          Quote: arkadiyssk
          like a THREE-STEP!!! Can an ICBM with a range of 12k km hit a European country?

          I read in periodicals that the RS-26 "Frontier" is quite suitable for such purposes, they probably lie ...
      2. 0
        28 March 2022 02: 54
        Don’t run far .. But the Polish T-72 and BMP-1 under the Austrian yellow-blaky rag in Ukraine is a very possible reality, which the British Minister of Defense hinted at.
      3. 0
        April 30 2022 11: 10
        Yars is enough.

        Not for arrogant gentlemen, my mother grew a berry!
    2. +22
      26 March 2022 07: 03
      You will work in three shifts to make it enough. Or do you think GDP has been doing since the age of 14, because a lot has become a revelation for the West. But seriously, he began to deal with the subject of preparation for war immediately after the beginning of the presidency, because he understood from Chechnya what awaits us in the future.
      1. +4
        26 March 2022 11: 42
        I won’t talk about drawing NATO into the conflict, this is unscientific fiction, but the actions of Poland separately ...
        I'm more concerned about the inadequate mental state of the NATO participants, it's worth looking at Biden. I can not rule out that they will vote at the insistence of the United States for helping Poland in confronting Russia. Well, it's not science fiction. But if America does not achieve the desired goals in due to the war in / in Ukraine, it is possible that Poland will be thrown next under the tank.
        1. +6
          26 March 2022 12: 05
          Yes, striped in complete inadequate. The can is definitely insanity, it's strange that their PR people don't even disguise it.
          1. +5
            26 March 2022 12: 07
            Quote: Glagol1
            it is strange that their PR people do not even disguise.

            They don’t have time, such a stream of insanity is gushing, and even where they don’t expect that they don’t have time request
            1. +2
              28 March 2022 21: 46
              Quote: NIKNN
              Quote: Glagol1
              it is strange that their PR people do not even disguise.

              They don’t have time, such a stream of insanity is gushing, and even where they don’t expect that they don’t have time request

              Sometimes Zhenya Psaki already feels sorry. Because of the old senile, she has to pretend to be a fool
              1. 0
                28 March 2022 22: 00
                winked maybe it's Joe for Psachka substituted?
          2. +2
            29 March 2022 06: 57
            Yes, you leave this grandfather alone, he is no one and his name is Biden. Using the example of Trump, everyone was convinced that presidents in the states are puppets, or dance to the tune of their masters, like Biden, or dance in a frying pan, like Trump. The United States has ended as a democracy, it is now the dictatorship of the financial oligarchy.
        2. +5
          26 March 2022 13: 19
          Uh no, they want to live themselves and they have children with grandchildren. The GDP clearly stated that we will hit not only the direct participants, but also the decision-making centers. And this is the White House, and the Capitol, and the Pentagon, and much, much more, and not only in the states.
      2. 0
        28 March 2022 18: 26
        Quote: Ros 56
        You will work in three shifts to make it enough. Or do you think GDP has been doing since the age of 14, because a lot has become a revelation for the West. But seriously, he began to deal with the subject of preparation for war immediately after the beginning of the presidency, because he understood from Chechnya what awaits us in the future.

        Not immediately ... first they put the country itself in order. In 2008 we still had the old army.
    3. +4
      26 March 2022 08: 54
      Enough for psheks.
    4. 0
      26 March 2022 12: 33
      Not. Calibers cost money. And then the regional army. Well, they didn’t feel fine in London, but what for them Poland in exile?
      1. 0
        26 March 2022 15: 47
        This is our cow! And we milk her. https://yandex.ru/video/preview/?text=this is%20our%20cow%20and%20we%20her%20milk&path=yandex_search&parent-reqid=1648299069626618-319382061139107256-vla1-5374-vla-l7-balancer-8080-BAL -8753&from_type=vast&filmId=9958451777231513094
    5. -1
      26 March 2022 13: 06
      I don’t know about the Iskanders, but we have more than 2000 thousand Calibers. At the beginning of 2022 ...
      1. +1
        29 March 2022 13: 45
        Did you write 2000000, or did you poke the wrong button with your finger?
    6. 0
      26 March 2022 17: 30
      Enough, and not only for Poland, but who needs it, and because of what?
      1. +1
        28 March 2022 22: 04
        There will be enough calibers for everyone who needs it. And for those who don’t have enough - the dagger is in their ass .. winked
    7. 0
      29 March 2022 21: 32
      50 thousand, only Calibers are needed no less ...
      industry must work around the clock!
    8. 0
      11 May 2022 10: 45
      We can support Poland with aviation and intelligence. I think that the seizure of Western Ukraine by Poland will lead to the collapse of the front in the east as well. It remains only to competently conduct negotiations on the division of Ukraine.
  2. +30
    26 March 2022 03: 40
    ***
    You will answer us for Susanin ...
    ***
    1. +3
      26 March 2022 04: 00
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      You will answer us for Susanin ...

      Then for the Tsar ... Then they still wanted to kill the Tsar
      1. +2
        28 March 2022 22: 07
        For the Tsar and for the fatherland .. and together with the Czech Republic they will be responsible ..
    2. +28
      26 March 2022 07: 32
      For the captured Red Army soldiers tortured by psheks in 1920.
  3. +2
    26 March 2022 03: 59
    985 tanks, including 250 Leopards. It is planned to purchase 250 "Abrams". At the same time, the Poles produce their own licensed version of the T-72

    600 modernized T-55s have not yet been taken into account. Even by modern standards, it turned out to be a good tank. Thus, they have more than one and a half thousand tanks.
    1. +1
      26 March 2022 05: 34
      Quote: YOUR
      600 modernized T-55s not yet taken into account

      In Poland?
      1. +3
        26 March 2022 06: 14
        Yes, there. The T-55AM Merida has a laser rangefinder, a ballistic computer, protection against bottom mines, reinforced armor and a lot more. Of course, in a tank battle against the T-72, not a player, but nevertheless
        1. +1
          26 March 2022 06: 24
          Quote: YOUR
          Yes, there. The T-55AM Merida has a laser rangefinder, a ballistic computer, protection against bottom mines, reinforced armor and a whole lot more.

          That is, the usual T-55AM ... Well, in the Carpathians, it can also come in handy
          1. +6
            26 March 2022 06: 31
            Quote: svp67
            That is, the usual T-55AM ...

            And what did you want something super duper terrible to come out of it? If used correctly, it can cause a lot of trouble. His gun is 100 mm. For any lightly armored target behind the eyes. Yes, and for modern tanks can be dangerous. I don’t know about the Poles, but we have developed ATGMs for the T-55 guns.
            I don’t understand why our designers and military leaders turn a blind eye to this potential. Convert into heavy infantry fighting vehicles, into escort vehicles, and not continuously upgrade the same BMP-1, BMP-2.
            1. +2
              26 March 2022 06: 40
              Quote: YOUR
              And what did you want something super duper terrible to come out of it?

              Well, the Romanians did it, like the Israelis
              Quote: YOUR
              His gun is 100 mm. For any lightly armored target behind the eyes. Yes, and for modern tanks can be dangerous.

              No, this is not enough for a modern tank
              Quote: YOUR
              I don’t know about the Poles, but we have developed ATGMs for the T-55 guns.

              Yes, the Sheksna complex, but it has a lot of shortcomings that make it difficult to use it in a real battle
              Quote: YOUR
              I don’t understand why our designers and military leaders turn a blind eye to this potential.

              Well, why, Omsk residents have a lot of options for its modernization. it's a matter of price. For the same money you can buy T-72
              Quote: YOUR
              Convert into heavy infantry fighting vehicles, into escort vehicles, and not continuously upgrade the same BMP-1, BMP-2.

              Maybe it will come to this
              1. +5
                26 March 2022 07: 10
                Quote: svp67
                No, this is not enough for a modern tank

                Why?
                Quote: svp67
                Yes, the Sheksna complex, but it has a lot of shortcomings that make it difficult to use it in a real battle

                ?????????
                The Sheksna complex is an ATGM for the T-62 tank, a 115 mm gun. For T-55 ATGM Bastion. Modified is used in the BMP-3. As far as I understand the difference between them is not very big.
                1. +2
                  26 March 2022 07: 18
                  Quote: YOUR
                  Why?

                  The power of the projectile is not enough. On a modern tank there is already a "thicker skin" for them. We need new shells capable of working against remote sensing.
                  Quote: YOUR
                  The Sheksna complex is an ATGM for the T-62 tank, a 115 mm gun. For T-55 ATGM Bastion.

                  Yes, you are right, but structurally they are the same, the only difference is that the T-55 has a 100-mm rifled TP, and the T-62 has a 115-mm smooth-bore TP, but the rocket and equipment are structurally the same.
                  Yes, and their indices are 9K116-1 "Bastion" and 9K-116-2 "Sheksna"
                  1. +1
                    26 March 2022 07: 28
                    Add more BMP-3.
                    The fact that the power is weaker than that of large ATGMs, so now remove all RPGs from parts, they have both a short range and no power.
                    You know the principle - tanks don't fight tanks. For actions from ambush, protection of the rear, the fight against landings. If the BMP-1, -2 can cope with this, then the modernized T-55s and even more so. What they really have is weak engines, hodovka. The same Poles changed the tracks. The clang and roar became less.
                    Normal tank. By the way, until Stools fussed and destroyed our fortified areas, separate companies and battalions of TO-55 tanks were part of the fortified areas
                    1. +2
                      26 March 2022 07: 48
                      Quote: YOUR
                      Add more BMP-3.

                      Well then, add "Rapier"
                      Quote: YOUR
                      You know the principle - tanks don't fight tanks.

                      Yeah, they ignore each other and whoever has a smaller caliber does it more often
                      Quote: YOUR
                      The same Poles changed the tracks. The clang and rumble became less.

                      ?????? We have been using a caterpillar with RMSh on them for a long time.
                      Quote: YOUR
                      What they really have is weak engines, hodovka.

                      Not quite clear. They completely installed the V-46 engine, very good, and for the first time I hear that they have a weak HCh. Well, they have it as reliable as "AK"
                      1. +1
                        26 March 2022 08: 17
                        Quote: svp67
                        Well then, add "Rapier"

                        Naturally, the MT-100 12 mm anti-tank gun also uses these guided projectiles. You see what nomenclature except for the T-55. And you write that this is so nonsense.
                        Quote: svp67
                        Yeah, they ignore each other and whoever has a smaller caliber does it more often

                        No, they are not ignored. They will meet and fight. But ATGMs, mines, helicopters and planes are more suitable for destroying tanks. And the T-72 also has a Cobra, Rupture, Reflex guided weapon. Maybe there is something else.
                        Quote: svp67
                        We have been using a caterpillar with RMS for a long time on them.

                        On more modern tanks, yes. The T-55 was not.
                      2. +4
                        26 March 2022 10: 17
                        Any tank is valuable during the war. 55 ki in Syria, and many more where, are very effective. 600 units, impressive, strength.
                      3. +2
                        26 March 2022 11: 56
                        It’s hard for me to understand and imagine how many obsolete T-55, T-62 tanks we have, maybe even T-64, and T-72 of early models, T-80s are standing somewhere, stored and not taken into account in any way in military doctrine. They are not altered, they are not converted into TBMP, into some special machines.
                        Recently, a small number of T-80s have been removed from storage, modernized and sent to the North. They do better in cold weather. It was not cheaper not to fence the garden with Kurgans, T-15s .... but to use outdated models of tanks for these purposes.
                      4. 0
                        26 March 2022 15: 48
                        Quote: Essex62
                        55 ki in Syria, and many other places, are very effective.

                        Conditionally effective, until the adversary has a modern anti-tank weapon
                      5. 0
                        26 March 2022 17: 26
                        This is indisputable .. But the same Jews modernized and put into operation all Soviet-made armor and successfully fought, with the same Soviet, anti-tank weapons. In the case of Poland, these are 600 additional BTT units, for which you need to have additional "modern anti-tank weapons", which, near the outskirts, are in limited quantities and almost all in the east. Moreover, they go to the Armed Forces of Ukraine from their territory. There is nothing for Westerners to repel the blow of deeply modernized "veterans".
                      6. 0
                        27 March 2022 05: 35
                        Quote: Essex62
                        There is nothing for Westerners to repel the blow of deeply modernized "veterans".

                        Judging by the numbers that are becoming known, Western countries have supplied them and will supply so many anti-tank weapons that they will be enough to destroy ALL tanks in the world three times, so that if anything they have something for Polish tanks ... And it’s not worth it forget that there is not a plain, but a mountainous wooded area, where it is much more convenient to conduct defensive operations than offensive ones
                      7. 0
                        28 March 2022 18: 32
                        Quote: svp67
                        Quote: Essex62
                        There is nothing for Westerners to repel the blow of deeply modernized "veterans".

                        Judging by the numbers that are becoming known, Western countries have supplied them and will supply so many anti-tank weapons that they will be enough to destroy ALL tanks in the world three times, so that if anything they have something for Polish tanks ... And it’s not worth it forget that there is not a plain, but a mountainous wooded area, where it is much more convenient to conduct defensive operations than offensive ones

                        How wooded, on the Ukrainian side, almost the entire forest has already been cut down, and in the mountains you still need to be able to fight. And here we have a very good experience, unlike psheks.
                      8. 0
                        28 March 2022 13: 17
                        Infantry support, fight against enemy infantry fighting vehicles. It is only necessary to strengthen dynamic protection and improve surveillance devices.
                      9. +1
                        26 March 2022 11: 00
                        Quote: YOUR
                        And you write that this is so nonsense.

                        Not nonsense, but there are moments that make this system on the T-55M and T-62M tanks ineffective. I won’t say about the BMP-3, I didn’t shoot from it. But with the "Rapier" I had to, the same is not a very good moment that reduces efficiency
                        Quote: YOUR
                        And the T-72 also has a Cobra, Rupture, Reflex guided weapon.

                        The regular T-72 9M113 "Cobra" does not have prototypes, but no more than that
                        Quote: YOUR
                        On more modern tanks, yes. The T-55 was not.

                        Everything has been there for a long time. This track is interchangeable with MSH
                      10. +1
                        26 March 2022 11: 48
                        Quote: svp67
                        Everything has been there for a long time.

                        How can it be if the T-55s are in storage warehouses. Who would change them. Saved up and forgotten.
                      11. +1
                        26 March 2022 11: 58
                        Quote: YOUR
                        How can it be if the T-55s are in storage warehouses.

                        If possible, take a look at them. Externally, the MSh caterpillar has a clearly visible difference - "windows" for the teeth of the VK


                        Upper track MSH, lower RMSh
                      12. 0
                        26 March 2022 12: 34
                        And what does this prove? The fact that on the T-55, which have been in storage for more than a dozen years, the harp has changed?
                      13. 0
                        26 March 2022 15: 31
                        Quote: YOUR
                        The fact that on the T-55, which have been in storage for more than a dozen years, the harp has changed?

                        They have not been standing there since the moment of manufacture, already from parts of the profit. And even if directly from the factory, the Omsk plant produced them until the 80s, before switching to the T-80, then modernization work is periodically carried out on the tanks. They are removed from storage and sent to tank repair plants. In particular, such work was carried out at the Leningrad, Kiev, Omsk, Ussuri plants
                      14. +3
                        26 March 2022 15: 45
                        I don’t know what’s going on with the Leningrad and Omsk tank repair plants, in Ussuriysk it was abandoned a long time ago. A pitiful sight, dozens of abandoned tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, engineering vehicles. Brrrr.
                        In general, I do not need to talk about what periodically and so on.
                      15. -2
                        26 March 2022 15: 50
                        Quote: YOUR
                        I don’t know what’s going on with the Leningrad and Omsk tank repair plants, in Ussuriysk it was abandoned a long time ago.

                        So I told you about the times of the USSR. In my company in the Far East, the tanks were after repair and modernization from there. By the way, the Ussuriysk plant was distinguished by the lowest quality, so I don’t particularly regret it
                      16. +1
                        27 March 2022 03: 24
                        Quote: svp67
                        the Ussuriysk plant was distinguished by the lowest quality, so I don’t particularly regret it

                        Yes, why feel sorry for some factory. After all, sending armored vehicles for repair and modernization somewhere inland is additional money that turns into yachts, villas ... Modernizing a plant is a one-time event, no big profit is expected.
                        Or am I wrong?
                        There is a car repair plant in Belogorsk, an aircraft repair plant in Primorye, Sukhoi is barely breathing in Komsomolsk, and a helicopter plant in Artyom.
                      17. 0
                        27 March 2022 05: 30
                        Quote: YOUR
                        To carry out the modernization of the plant is a one-time event, no big profit is expected.

                        modernization, but in relation to people to their work, more of a problem.
                        Quote: YOUR
                        in Komsomolsk, Sukhoi is barely breathing, in Artyom, a helicopter.

                        Here I can strongly doubt ... especially following the results of this company, that these plants will not be their lot. Both in military and civil orders.
                      18. -1
                        27 March 2022 05: 47
                        Remind you how many Su-57s were produced? How many Ka-52s were produced?
                        Do not confuse well-designed equipment and its production.
                        Quote: svp67
                        modernization, but in relation to people to their work, more of a problem.

                        Everywhere people are the same. The main thing is to be motivated. When it is not, then hands fall and do not want to do anything.
                      19. 0
                        27 March 2022 07: 50
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Remind you how many Su-57s were produced? How many Ka-52s were produced?

                        Remind me. And also remind you how many Su-35 and Su-30, as well as SuperJets, were produced there? And can you name how many of our anti-ship missiles were produced in Arseniev? Especially 3M-82?
                      20. 0
                        27 March 2022 09: 06
                        224 SuperJets have been produced since 2011, 35 Su-2014s since 124, 30 Su-1992s since 660, in total. At KnAAZ, they have not been produced for a long time by the Irkut association.
                        Nothing but helicopters is produced in Arseniev. Since 2011, about 180 units have been produced.
                        Do you calculate or help how much and what is produced per year?
                        I can also tell you that the Amur Shipbuilding Plant in the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur is also slowly getting worse. The one where the nuclear submarine was built.
                        You study all this on a computer on Wikipedia, I am like a Far Eastern resident in real life. I know how they cut staff at KnAAZ, I know what works there .. but what's the difference how many people work there.
                      21. +1
                        27 March 2022 10: 07
                        Quote: YOUR
                        Nothing but helicopters is produced in Arsenyev

                        That is, you don’t even know what Progress produces ... well, well ...
                      22. +1
                        27 March 2022 10: 15
                        Quote: YOUR
                        I can also tell you that the Amur Shipbuilding Plant in the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur is also slowly getting worse. The one where the nuclear submarine was built.
                        You study all this on a computer on Wikipedia, I'm like a Far Eastern resident in real life

                        Then let me remind you
                        Let's turn to the results of the past year and the plans of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant.
                        Order

                        Three corvettes from the new contract (2020, contract for 6 corvettes) were laid down: Grozny, Bravy and Buiny are already on the stocks. At the same time, the corvette "Buyny" is the ship of the next project - 20385 (TsKB Almaz). The Ministry of Defense postponed the delivery of the Rizkiy corvette to 2022: contractors-suppliers - the Zaslon company - delayed the delivery of important equipment.

                        The delivery plans for the next year, 2022, include two ferries for the Vanino-Kholmsk line and the Rezkiy corvette for the Ministry of Defense, which is scheduled to be commissioned by Navy Day. In 2024, it is planned to hand over order 2105 (corvette "Grozny"), in the same year the first (possibly second) small rocket ship should be handed over.

                        Source: https://www.korabel.ru/news/comments/itogi_goda_korabelov_amurskiy_sudostroitelnyy_zavod.html
                      23. 0
                        27 March 2022 10: 46
                        What is a corvette? Big boat. As for the Progress association, the production of anti-ship missiles was discontinued there, if my memory serves me right 8 or 10 years ago.
                      24. 0
                        27 March 2022 10: 50
                        Quote: YOUR
                        What is a corvette? Big boat.

                        Very big. And considering how they are now being equipped, it is also very "toothy"
                        Quote: YOUR
                        As for the Progress association, the production of anti-ship missiles was discontinued there, if my memory serves me right 8 or 10 years ago.
                        It was not in vain that I asked you about the launch of the 3M-82 missile, this is the Zircon missile, it is just beginning to enter the troops and its release has been established precisely at Progress
                      25. 0
                        27 March 2022 11: 05
                        Amazing. So what? Do you want to say that the pace of construction of modern aviation is sufficient for us?
                        What exactly do you want to prove with your comments?
                        To produce 10 aircraft per year, 10 helicopters, is that wonderful in your opinion? The same Americans produce so much in a week.
                        Corvette toothy. Maybe it’s easy to hide it, he drove it into the floodplain on the river, and don’t tell me where our ocean fleet is, when in the end our only aircraft carrier will be REPAIRED if the gates were supposed to be put on the dock a year ago, but only in October-November they started manufacturing.
                      26. -1
                        28 March 2022 18: 41
                        Quote: YOUR
                        The same Americans produce so much in a week

                        And what do Americans produce in batches there? And at the same time about the quality of the produced ...
                      27. 0
                        28 March 2022 14: 40
                        Reduction of personnel is the consequences of the introduction of new machines and equipment....
                        When the tractor was introduced, many guys with shovels were no longer needed ...
                      28. 0
                        28 March 2022 18: 42
                        And with modern tractors, even Soviet tractors stand aside and smoke nervously.
              2. +1
                27 March 2022 16: 28
                Maybe the fact is that the T55 has a rifled barrel?
  4. +9
    26 March 2022 04: 02
    And against the backdrop of everything, they are now reporting that one of the ex-generals has made claims to the Kaliningrad region. Having said that Russia is not occupying it by right. Does he remember what area of ​​the territory of the former Germany the USSR contributed to transfer to Poland?
    1. +6
      26 March 2022 04: 12
      Having said that Russia is not occupying it by right.
      - well, in their opinion, Russia should not exist at all ...
    2. +5
      26 March 2022 05: 18
      Sorry Zhirinovsky. He could speak on some channel and ask. Kaliningrad? Well, how much did you cut off from Germany. We can help the Germans restore the status quo. What would the WOW RAISE. And someone under the guise and thought would. It's called a fork.
    3. +6
      26 March 2022 07: 14
      Quote: svp67
      what area of ​​the territory of the former Germany did the USSR contribute to transfer to Poland?

      If anyone can lay claim to Koenigsberg, it is by no means Poland, but Germany. But before Germany reaches Königsberg, it will reach Danzig, Stettin, Posen, Breslau, and what else? You, gentlemen, wanted de-Stalinization? So all the above German cities were cut to Poland by none other than Comrade Stalin. Still want de-Stalinization?
  5. +5
    26 March 2022 04: 18
    the behavior of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this situation is also unpredictable, up to a truce with us in the Zhytomyr-Kyiv region and the transfer of a number of brigades to the West.
    And this is non-science fiction.
    1. 0
      26 March 2022 05: 22
      Yesterday, their main warrior was probing a variant on how to act in the case of Poland in the event of its encroachment on the western territories. Why not make friends with Russians?
      1. +2
        26 March 2022 05: 36
        Quote: Romario Argo
        Why not make friends with Russians?

        hi But there were precedents in history - 1667. Andrusov agreement
        - borders along the Dnieper, the left bank near the Russian kingdom, the right bank near the Commonwealth. The truth is that the world has changed, and if there is a division of Ukraine, then many will participate.
    2. +3
      26 March 2022 05: 28
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      And this is non-science fiction.

      Why? This is now the most real move on the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So far, their "old" brigades are dying in other parts of Ukraine. Mobilize the new ones in the western territories, supply them with weapons received from the West, and provide from there with ammunition, fuel, food, as well as uniforms and other logistics. It was not just that they provided "gumconvoys" in their direction. By doing this, they achieved two goals: - they created a refugee crisis in Europe, from women, children and the elderly
      - received a mobile resource from the eastern, southern, northern and central regions, while maintaining this in the western. So they have enough "meat".
      And having now formed new ones or restored the old battalions and brigades, they themselves will decide where to send them
      1. +2
        26 March 2022 06: 37
        Quote: svp67
        Why?

        Because Poland is not just a "ceeuropa", but the real one, in their understanding.
        And all the cheese-boron is brewed just for this, in order to become equal to the "white sahib".
        They jump out of their pants to be recorded as Europeans, and then Europe itself will come. And what is not entirely, but in parts, so who cares.
        1. +1
          26 March 2022 07: 19
          Of course it will. And in the rear, the heirs of the former owners of land, houses, apartments, shops, churches will come. After all, everything had owners until 1939. And you will be restitution, as it should be in Europe.
          1. +2
            26 March 2022 07: 23
            Quote: Nagan
            And you will have restitution

            So what?
            But lace panties and an EU passport, so that it’s not illegal to bend your back in strawberry fields in Poland, but immediately to Italy-Spain and not hide from the police.
            1. +3
              26 March 2022 07: 42
              Quote: Jacket in stock
              So what?

              Like what? Just think about some thread of Mykola, with an apartment in Lviv, a shop in the same Lviv, and a dacha in the vicinity. It's worth it to yourself, isn't it? And upon the arrival of the Poles, it turns out that before the war the apartment belonged to Pan Pshekshitsyulsky, the shop to Pan Kshepshytsyulsky, and the dacha was built on the land of Pan Burakovsky. And, characteristically, they all have legitimate heirs. TseEurope, and restitution rules in it, unless you are a Polish Jew. And then Mykola is not up to Spain and Portugal, and he has only one road, to strawberry fields, because he has no other way to earn pennies in Central Europe.
  6. +2
    26 March 2022 05: 04
    It turns out that the army of Poland is about ten times smaller than the Ukrainian one and with a territory two to three times smaller. And it consists of eighty percent of the old, albeit modernized, army. The fleet is nothing at all.
    The Belarusian army is still a flint, and the best specialists are in the partisan (sabotage) war. And in any case, Russia will never abandon the Belarusians.
    If Poland invades Ukraine, Ukrainians will face the question of becoming Poles and pshek in Polish, or re-entering Russia as in 1654. Bogdan Khmelnitsky giggles in his coffin. This is such an interesting picture. belay soldier
    1. +2
      26 March 2022 06: 42
      Quote: V.
      If Poland invades Ukraine, Ukrainians will face the question of becoming Poles and pshek in Polish or re-entering Russia

      They don't have that issue.
      They said a long time ago that they were zeevoops, they cut off their way to Russia.
    2. +1
      26 March 2022 10: 22
      The Polish army is 120 thousand, and the Sejm recently decided to double it to 250 thousand. Do Ukrainians have an army of 1 million 200 thousand?
      1. 0
        26 March 2022 10: 39
        I only compared armored vehicles, artillery and aviation. As for the infantry, I see you have about the same. I was surprised that Ukraine has 1500 tanks.
        1. 0
          26 March 2022 11: 36
          Error 15000 tanks.
    3. 0
      28 March 2022 13: 27
      Now the outskirts society is divided into two parts, after entering the Pole will be divided into three parts.
  7. +2
    26 March 2022 05: 06
    Will there be a reliable guarantee that Russia will not respond?

    And why do we need a world (especially a Polish one) in which Russia will have no place? It’s easier to roll the lords up to their ears into the soil ...
  8. -2
    26 March 2022 05: 34
    - 985 tanks, including 250 Leopards. It is planned to purchase 250 "Abrams". At the same time, the Poles produce their own licensed version of the T-72;

    We signed a contract at the beginning of March. So they do not "plan", but purchased.
    And yes, it is important to note that they have more than a hundred Leo in the 2A5 modification. Of course, there are also old 2A4s.

    up to 900 wheeled AFVs

    Among them are the chic "Wolverines" with a 30-mm Bushmaster Mk44. Mk310 in stock (shells with programmable air blast).
    Spike is available.


    48 F-16 fighter-bombers

    Most of which are the 52nd Block. They also bought Aim-9X Block 2 and AMRAAM C-7.

    There are plans to purchase the F-35А.

    Already purchased 32 pieces in 2020. They stand in line. The first flight will be in 2024.

    I won’t talk about drawing NATO into the conflict, this is unscientific fiction, but the actions of Poland separately ...

    If someone attacks Poland, NATO will get involved. Well, if the Poles attack anyone, then it is unlikely.

    - the likelihood of a full-scale war with Russia, with strikes on Polish territory from the Kaliningrad region, which will put NATO as a whole in an uncomfortable position;

    If Poland breaks into Ukraine at her request, then an attack on Poland will trigger a NATO response, since this is an attack on Poland. From a legal point of view, we are not at war with Ukraine. Consequently, the 5th article of NATO works here in full measure.
    1. +3
      26 March 2022 06: 55
      40 f-16 is the payroll. How many of them are actually combat ready? The rarities of the eighties are ready to be ignored.
      Leopards and wolverines are certainly great, but where is the sane air defense? Where is the army aviation? Where is the sane god of war? In addition to 155 Dan (according to the list), there is nothing interesting in the artillery of Poland.
      The RF Armed Forces have 350 T-90s, 600 BMP-3s, and 800 Msta-S on the lists. On the territory of Ukraine in the video, I saw this technique a few times. Where is all this technology?
      Where are a hundred Su-35s, a hundred Su-30s, and the rest of the little things? The Russian Federation has more than two hundred only modern Mi-28 and Ka-52 (and these machines are directly sharpened for the destruction of "sheds" like a leopard and the same wolverine, not counting hundreds of Mi-8/24/35.

      And this, the fifth article works with the aggression of external aggression. If Poland decides to fight no matter where, on its own territory or on the land of a neighbor, this does not concern NATO.
      Great Britain could not attract NATO to the Falklands (although it seemed to consider the Falklands to be its own).

      As Western propagandists write, I will open a window into the adult world for you. NATO does not want an escalation of the conflict at all. The Russian Federation has about six thousand tactical nuclear weapons, and an abundance of delivery vehicles anywhere up to Portugal and Scotland. And all this wealth is not intended for the United States, but for the European theater of operations.
      The European elites will squeeze out their eyes to those who want a direct conflict between NATO and the Russian Federation.
      1. -4
        26 March 2022 10: 34
        The gay European elites are not even able to protect their selfish interests when the mattress impudently sets them up by imposing bans on vital industries, such as our gas. The occupation administration has been working there for a long time, fulfilling all the Wishlist of the zaluzhny. They will bend this elite, at once and do what they need. Another question is that hunters live hunting. Now they have no illusions, the wrestlers have enough determination to push the button. All-in let's go.
  9. +1
    26 March 2022 06: 23
    Again, it will be difficult to annex the occupied territories, so Polish dreams are Polish dreams, and the real probability of their implementation tends to zero.

    Dreams, dreams, but the US will intervene only as a last resort.
  10. +2
    26 March 2022 06: 27
    not everything is clear...

    Logically. If Gdansk, as a result of their attempts, becomes part of the LDNR, then few will object.
  11. -5
    26 March 2022 06: 37
    powerful air defense, armed with S-200 and S-125 systems
    You can not read further this nonsense laughing
    1. +2
      26 March 2022 07: 09
      What's wrong?! We are talking about air defense 40 years ago.
      1. -5
        26 March 2022 07: 58
        Powerful air defense 40 years ago? laughing
        1. +1
          26 March 2022 08: 01
          We are talking about equipping the Polish Armed Forces 40 years ago. Or are you reading the article diagonally?
          1. 0
            28 March 2022 13: 30
            diagonally from bottom to top
    2. +3
      26 March 2022 07: 26
      Today, the S-125 and S-200 are practically nothing. And during the time of the Warsaw Pact, which is discussed in the article, this air defense was quite powerful. Read carefully.
  12. 0
    26 March 2022 06: 43
    Colleagues are very dangerous now, it’s not for nothing that Biden, overcoming dementia, landed in Poland (T. Montyan’s expression) .... Retain? Or ?
  13. +2
    26 March 2022 06: 48
    For some reason, I am sure that the Westerners in Ukraine are sleeping and seeing that the Polish "peacekeepers" will come as soon as possible. Well, they have been asking for so many years in the EU and NATO, they said that they are also ceeuropa, and then Europe itself came, the dream of Svidomo came true.
  14. -2
    26 March 2022 06: 57
    It all depends on Duda's meeting with Biden. If they bring in their 10 peacekeepers, they will be buried there, but if something more serious is started, then this is already a war and a big one.
    The question is very complicated.
    1. 0
      26 March 2022 07: 28
      Quote: Ros 56
      If they bring in their 10 peacekeepers, they will be buried there

      Who?
      Our?
      So busy.
      Byalorusy?
      Do they need it?
      1. -2
        26 March 2022 07: 30
        Ask Western mercenaries. hi
        1. 0
          26 March 2022 07: 48
          Quote: Ros 56
          Ask Western mercenaries. hi

          Well, they killed a hundred or two of them. So what?
          Thousands came.
          And the Poles want to send 10 thousand, we definitely don’t have a stock of Calibers.
          1. -4
            26 March 2022 08: 29
            Well, maybe you don’t, you don’t have to sign for everyone.
  15. +2
    26 March 2022 08: 10
    Moreover, the monuments of the first Polish division named after T. Kosciuszko still stand in the center of Ryazan at the checkpoint of the paratrooper school on Margelov Square and in Seltsy. Also in Ryazan, a Brotherhood in Arms monument was erected with Soviet and Polish soldiers going on the attack. And I don’t remember anything that they were mocked at.
    The "Brotherhood in Arms" monument had its Polish "brother" installed on the Vilna Station Square in Warsaw and was dismantled in 2011.
  16. -4
    26 March 2022 08: 42
    According to Krakow, if anything, strike, to restore balance and historical justice!
  17. 0
    26 March 2022 08: 47
    Poland is NATO, which means it is necessary for NATO-vsky carpet strikes.
  18. -4
    26 March 2022 08: 58
    We need to hit Western Ukraine now. Destroy as much as possible, and then let the Poles take their Bandera. And then we get some ruins, and the Poles are all clean. Or wait until the Bandera people themselves destroy everything for us, and once we "feint with our ears", take the Poles - we give. And set more conditions. Don't give away for nothing!
  19. 0
    26 March 2022 09: 07
    Here the question is in Poland's inadequate reserves ...
  20. 0
    26 March 2022 09: 18
    not impressive. for that matter, the APU was obviously cooler. but that didn't help them. and couldn't help)
  21. 0
    26 March 2022 10: 17
    The question is not even that. It is incomprehensible to me why all our various analysts, experts, political scientists and other blah blah blah company of "specialists of everything and everyone", painting in different colors, depending on their possession of the factual material and understanding of the essence of the issue, options for the invasion and "return" of the Eastern kres. All these chatterboxes, useless for society, necessary only for occupying airtime and earning their language for nothing, shyly and downcast eyes are silent about the fact that Stalin, defining the borders and reviving the state of Poland from non-existence, in compensation for the annexed western lands, gave to them almost all of East Prussia with the largest seaports and shipyards, industrial and developed infrastructure? As a conclusion, the relevant people from the government should raise the issue with the Poles that if you really want your Eastern Crosses, which, by the way, without much need for us and the historically Russophobic population is only a problem, then we reset 2 nuclear power plants to the state of a brick, we return the Lands of East Prussia within the borders of 1939 year to the Russian Federation (Kaliningrad region), while it is possible without Klaipeda, and Volyn-Belarus, everything and the issue was resolved without problems. But no one even stutters about it, bashfully averting his eyes, I don’t think that no one knows this, everyone knows everyone perfectly well, there are no fools among them, this makes it even more offensive We just give everyone gifts with the graves of Russian soldiers and our great ancestors , and someone gave us something just like that, for some reason we need to pour over any inch of land for returning several times with soldiers' blood, so that the next ruler, who imagines himself the sole arbiter of destinies and considered that life was a success, again gave it to enemies .
  22. -1
    26 March 2022 10: 20
    Quote: Daverk
    APU were obviously cooler. but that didn't help them.

    These are the Slavs, the mentality of the Slavs, like ours, and they fight like the Slavs, which means skillfully to the death, it’s not worth having fun here and it won’t roll on the ball, the slaughter will be noble.
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  23. -1
    26 March 2022 12: 24
    the country is a prostitute, it’s even disgusting to say something
    1. 0
      27 March 2022 09: 31
      Quote: Olrov2010
      the country is a prostitute, it’s even disgusting to say something

      No, "scavengers", even Churchill noted this at one time.
  24. 0
    26 March 2022 13: 08
    I happened to see Polish paratroopers in 1964 in Dzhankoy. They were waiting for the board to return home after the maneuvers. Strong and skillful warriors. If Western democracy has not corrupted, then we must take them seriously. I put the then paratrooper above today's US Marine.
    1. 0
      28 March 2022 13: 32
      Our blood, Slavic only spoiled by the West.
    2. 0
      April 28 2022 20: 08
      logs traditionalists. Catholicism is held in high esteem there and the family. for the fact that they are raking against LGBT from the West
  25. -1
    26 March 2022 14: 07
    Well, after reading such texts, it becomes clear how we got into the city ... but with the Ukrainians .... What kind of truce in the east?! What joint opposition to Poland?! the author go to the therapist, the one who treats the head!
    The Poles will calmly enter Western Ukraine, at the invitation of their government, and we will receive the army of Poland, with its equipment and not frail materiel from all of NATO, and the Ukrainians, whom they will use like meat, giving them stability with the use of heavy equipment ....
    1. 0
      26 March 2022 17: 14
      These are wet dreams. It seems to me that everything has already been divided and popilino - it’s just that everyone disperses according to the agreed areas. And the Poles are preparing the masses for where part of the land will fall to them)
    2. 0
      April 29 2022 07: 56
      I don't think... Europe is not the same as it was in the 40s. The Bundeswehr is far from the Wehrmacht, in England there are no longer pilots who fought for the sky over Britain and sailors who led convoys to Murmansk, in the USA there are no longer Black Tigers covering American bombers over Germany ... Everything is in the past! And I will say a terrible thought! I rejoice at the war in Ukraine! For only in the flames of war are real warriors and men born!
  26. +1
    26 March 2022 16: 37
    And I think that the Poles will grab a piece of Ukraine for themselves when things come to an end. The only question is how big is the piece.
    1. 0
      26 March 2022 17: 12
      Yeah, for this they boil)))
    2. 0
      26 March 2022 18: 30
      They will be able to grab something there only if our military-political leadership allows them to do so. If they want to take it without permission, they will get bream.
  27. 0
    26 March 2022 17: 12
    Yes, they just want to occupy the western part - to squeeze it out.
  28. SIT
    +3
    26 March 2022 17: 13
    Generally a normal choice. Let the Poles take this Galicia. It's all infection. That's just in Poland, Bandera and UNA UNSO are criminals. Let only someone vyaknet there Bandera come and put things in order. At times they will be sent to jail, despite the fact that Europe. There will definitely not be Bandera and Shukhevych streets in Lemberg, Poland.
  29. 0
    26 March 2022 18: 24
    The Polish army may have been prepared, but its combat experience has shed a tear. Business trips to Afghanistan with a limited number of military personnel, everything is rich. And the citizens of the Poles are ready for the flow of the coffins of their warriors, and in considerable numbers, this is the question and will the Polish president be able to justify to his citizens why he sends them to die in Ukraine?
  30. 0
    26 March 2022 19: 18
    The culmination of pressure on Russia has not been passed. "Partners of GDP" still think that they can break us economically. Crazy Poles in the 13th century invited the Teutonic Order to fight the Prussians; love ended with the Battle of Grunwald. In the 21st century, their no less crazy descendants invited the Yankees to fight against Russia...
  31. 0
    26 March 2022 21: 30
    "only 270 cars are on the move" in fact, if desired, the Poles will be able to restore 2/3 of the cars. They have the appropriate enterprises, which means they will be able to arrange repairs
  32. 0
    26 March 2022 21: 32
    Quote: Pavel57
    The main question in the dispute is whether there will be enough Calibers and Iskanders for Poland?

    I think that Iskanders and calibers will not be needed, there will either be carpet bombing on both sides of the border or, most likely, a pair of tactical nuclear warheads against the accumulation of troops. Which is more painful and effective. After such a response to the invasion, attempts to snap from the Poles and NATO will become Not at all. For the sake of Poland, NATO will not commit suicide. Opinion about Russia will not get better, but respect will obviously be added. Yes, it’s hard to come up with a more weighty argument. and have full respect for strength.
  33. -1
    26 March 2022 22: 30
    Thank you! Very interesting! good
    Whatever the Polish army - big or small, strong or weak - when entering Ukraine, this will be another problem for Russia! But THIS gives a free hand + Bonus for Lukashenka + Bonus for the CSTO countries - Maestro! Your way out! - in such a Triumvirate - Poland will once again "rake off" 100% Yes - how it was 400 years ago, how it was in 38! angry
  34. 0
    27 March 2022 05: 54
    Still, I wonder what the reaction of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis will be. Psheks are an enemy or a friend for them?
  35. 0
    27 March 2022 10: 59
    Poland, don't be stupid - come back to Russia
  36. 0
    27 March 2022 13: 30
    Poland alone will not climb, and no one promised her support.
    Absolutely no one is interested here. (Except for Ukraine, of course; for example, he will promise some kind of territory)
  37. 0
    27 March 2022 15: 42
    Poland is a buffer zone, only heavily fortified with apple trees and prisons.
  38. +1
    27 March 2022 17: 09
    Poland has strange claims to a state that owns nuclear weapons! And if, I repeat, if the Poles rock the boat, then it is possible and necessary to use nuclear weapons to contain the insolent "hyena of Europe" ...
    1. 0
      28 March 2022 13: 15
      The guys have been asking for a long time to join Russia and Germany.
  39. 0
    27 March 2022 20: 42
    Here, by the way, in Poland, the military registration and enlistment offices are full of people. On my way from home to the city center, two parts are the main ones, and both have military uniforms. Full of people.
    And yesterday I was sitting on the balcony and saw two C-5 Galaxy taking off from Balice - the local airfield.
    Something is happening. :)
  40. 0
    28 March 2022 13: 14
    Pshekov for a week, I think, is enough if without special ammunition, then we attach it.
  41. 0
    28 March 2022 21: 54
    Especially pleased with the advertisement after the article ..
    "Download paper weapon models" .. that's somehow on topic ..
  42. -1
    29 March 2022 20: 14
    Which Poland??? We cannot overwhelm the APU! And if Polish soldiers also appear .. The commander-in-chief dreams of winning this war with a limited contingent?
    1. 0
      31 March 2022 15: 54
      Almost all the equipment is already littered there. You can also deal with psheks, especially since the front there will be small, but I would not want to. Our guys have to complete the task and go home. There is no point in risking them just to slap Poland.
  43. 0
    31 March 2022 15: 51
    There will be a pro-Polish rebellion and a Crimean scenario of agreements with the seceded territory. The weapon settles in the west for this. They don't go to Kyiv either. There is a possibility that ours will not be able to interfere, or will not want to. If Ukraine is then made, then a separate spare part of up to 5 regions may well be a natural solution. If we come to an agreement with the Poles so that ours can conduct investigations of the activities of the Nazi regime there (Oh, I understand, "flying" is a new version of Grammar nazi, we are waiting for new parts of Wolfenstein about the grandson of William Blaskovich), and the territory did not even dare to twitch, then such a buffer state will suit us, the locals will also be quite satisfied with the role of Polish lackeys.
  44. +1
    April 1 2022 12: 14
    I hope this time there will be no underestimation of the enemy's forces ?! After the Serdyukov reforms in the Kaliningrad fortified area, it became very modest with tanks, for example.
  45. 0
    April 27 2022 20: 54
    If there is anyone from the old guard here, then they remember the special exercises of the Warsaw Pact. The Poles were excellent soldiers. But they are nationalists with hatred in their hearts. Too bad we had to win them over to our side. I am 1947 and I remember our joint events. am
  46. -1
    April 28 2022 20: 01
    No one will lisp with the Poles. Carpet bombing will erase entire cities, regardless of the population. They instantly deflate. And paragraph 5 of the NATO charter will not work if they climb onto the western outskirts. They are nobody to us and there is no way to call them.
  47. 0
    13 May 2022 16: 51
    I would try to negotiate with the Poles .. Give them the western parts of the ruins in exchange for a corridor from Kaliningrad to Belarus ...
    At the same time, you can simulate clashes in that region ...
  48. 0
    1 June 2022 16: 27
    Quote: arkadiyssk
    And if without children's "funny" jokes about ICBMs in Poland? Turn on your head - like a THREE-STAGE!!! Can an ICBM with a range of 12k km hit a European country?
    She physically cannot fly close, even at 6k if shooting from Irkutsk, because. until the three stages work out, it will not return to the atmosphere. To shoot at Poland, you need a two-stage ICBM. Or tactics - like ballistic Iskanders.

    You can sneak from anywhere in the ocean, how are they going to destroy small Britain.
  49. 0
    20 June 2022 11: 04
    Poland will be quite capable of capturing the Kaliningrad region. It will be difficult for the Russian forces: to bypass the Baltic from the sea, then they can attack according to the incoming forces. If you spit on the Baltic and go through it, then there is a war with NATO with all the consequences.