Foreign aircraft for Ukraine: there will be no deliveries

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MiG-29 fighters from the Polish Air Force. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Poland

One of these days it was possible to observe how a new plan of military-technical assistance to Ukraine was proposed and soon fell apart. The European Union was going to transfer a certain number of combat aircraft to it, but it soon became clear that this would not be possible. In addition, such deliveries would have no practical meaning.

Help Plan


On the evening of February 27, EU representative Josep Borrell announced that the countries of the organization were going to send assistance to Ukraine in the form of military and other products in the amount of about 500 million euros. Among other things, the Ukrainian army was asked to transfer a certain number of combat aircraft. At the same time, the number of such equipment, its types and other details of the plan were not disclosed.



New information appeared on the night of March 1. The press service of the Naval Forces of Ukraine revealed the expected volumes of supplies and features of the deployment of new equipment. Thus, it was reported that Bulgaria would transfer 16 MiG-29 fighters and 14 Su-25 attack aircraft. Poland and Slovakia were said to be going to transfer 28 and 12 MiG-29 fighters respectively. Only 70 units. technology.


Polish fighter in flight. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Poland

In connection with the decommissioning of all major military airfields on the territory of Ukraine, it is proposed to deploy aircraft in Poland. It was alleged that the personnel had already gone to a neighboring state to master the technology. Such basing will have to protect them from a preemptive strike from the Russian armed forces - as happened a few days ago with the Ukrainian Air Force.

Reason for doubt


It should be noted that news from the Ukrainian Navy did not receive confirmation from sources, and also had several dubious features. In the first place, it is not clear why the Navy is reporting aid to the Air Force. However, this is quite understandable, given the disorder in the systems and control loops of the Ukrainian army.

The only countries in Europe (with the exception of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus) that still have MiG-29s and Su-25s are named as senders of aid. At the same time, in the list of equipment preparing for the transfer, they mentioned literally the entire tactical Aviation Bulgaria and Slovakia, including combat aircraft and cars "on a joke".


Bulgarian MiG-29s. Photo by Wikimedia Commons

In fact, the press service of the Navy claimed that the entire Eastern European (NATO) fleet of Soviet MiG-29s and Su-25s would be transferred to Ukraine. And some states, having provided assistance to the Ukrainian Air Force, will even be left without their own tactical aviation. Not surprisingly, such news was not confirmed by other sources, and then was denied.

Help canceled


It is curious that the first refutation appeared a few hours before the “news” from the Ukrainian Navy. On the evening of February 28, Bulgarian Prime Minister Kiril Petkov said that his country did not accept the proposal to supply aircraft to Ukraine. Bulgaria has a small number of combat aircraft, which is barely enough even for its own defense. Therefore, fighters and attack aircraft will not be given to anyone.

On the afternoon of March 1, after the Ukrainian publication, a meeting took place between Polish President Andrzej Duda and NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. At a press conference after this event, the Polish president said that his state was not going to send its aircraft to Ukraine. The transfer of such equipment would make Poland and NATO a party to the conflict, which they do not want. In this regard, there are no Polish aircraft in the Ukrainian sky.

Foreign aircraft for Ukraine: there will be no deliveries

Bulgarian attack aircraft Su-25. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria

On the evening of March 1, the Minister of Defense of Slovakia expressed his position. Yaroslav Nagy called the information about the transfer of fighters disinformation. Moreover, Slovakia does not plan to provide assistance to Ukraine in the form of military equipment. It will be supplied only with ammunition, fuel and humanitarian supplies.

Thus, literally in a day, the three countries mentioned in the latest reports denied the information from Ukrainian sources. This means that the list from the Ukrainian Navy was an elementary lie of propagandists, which has no connection with reality.

It should be noted that along with the list of equipment, the plans of the European Union for the supply of combat aircraft are falling apart. Ukraine can quickly put into operation and use only Soviet-made equipment, which only Bulgaria, Poland and Slovakia have left. The supply of NATO-made aircraft does not make sense and will lead to a quick and useless loss of valuable materiel.

Useless plans


Still, it is worth considering a hypothetical scenario in which Ukraine received Eastern European fighters and attack aircraft, and also uses foreign airfields. It is easy to see that in such a situation, the Ukrainian Air Force does not receive any advantages, but at the same time they again face great risks.

The deployment of aircraft at foreign airfields makes it possible to save them from destruction on the ground. However, such a measure removes airfields from the intended areas for performing combat missions. As a result, the MiG-29 and Su-25, even with maximum refueling and external tanks, will only be able to operate in Western and Central Ukraine. The large eastern part of the country will remain uncovered.


MiG-29 Slovak Air Force. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Slovakia

However, aircraft are unlikely to be able to use their potential in terms of flight range. By now, the Russian army has gained complete superiority in the Ukrainian skies. Immediately after crossing the Polish border, the aircraft will be taken for escort and destroyed in the shortest possible time - long before reaching the lines of solving a combat mission.

The active grouping of the Russian armed forces is covered by a developed military air defense system with all the necessary components. Even breaking through some defense systems, an attack aircraft or fighter will be shot down by the next echelon. The probability of defeat also increases due to the lack of modern weapons - obsolete weapon will force the aircraft to enter the zone of destruction of short-range complexes or even MANPADS.

A question of loss


Until recently, Ukraine did not have the most modern, but rather numerous tactical aviation. According to the World Air Forces 2022 directory, the Ukrainian Air Force had 43 MiG-29 and 26 Su-27 fighters, as well as 12 Su-24 bombers and 17 Su-25 attack aircraft. All this equipment was built back in the USSR, but some of it was later upgraded.


Fighter in the air. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Slovakia

The vast majority of Ukrainian tactical aviation combat units were destroyed on the ground, along with airfields and infrastructure, during the first strikes of the Russian armed forces. Nearly all of the remaining aircraft were shot down or hit while parked in the following days. Only individual machines remain in service, but their fate is predictable. The Ukrainian Air Force actually ceased to exist as a full-fledged combat-ready structure. They managed to save their personnel, but without materiel, this no longer matters much.

In the current situation, Ukraine does not have any opportunity to independently restore its Air Force and return it to solving combat missions. The only way out of this situation lies in foreign aid, as recently announced by the leadership of the European Union. However, almost immediately it became clear that none of the countries with suitable equipment was ready or unwilling to share it.

Complete rout


Thus, at the moment the situation with European aircraft for Ukraine looks quite unambiguous. The Ukrainian Air Force will not receive new equipment and will not be based on foreign airfields. Accordingly, they cease to exist as a combat-ready type of armed forces that could participate in battles and influence their course.

However, there is nothing wrong with this. In the current situation, any weakening of the Ukrainian armed forces contributes to the speedy completion of the Special Operation for demilitarization and the establishment of peace - both in the protected Donbass and in the rest of Ukraine.
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  1. +13
    2 March 2022 05: 32
    give ukraine a cruiser...
    1. +20
      2 March 2022 06: 20
      She had... Even now she has lol ... True in the form of scrap metal feel .... We can say that the type is unfinished - so who interfered? request
      If you stupidly compare two neighboring countries that were in the top three during the Soviet era - Belarus and Ukraine - then a clear dissonance catches your eye. If one has retained all its heritage and is at least somehow trying to use it, then the second one has screwed everything up for all these 30 years. ALL!!!! Those who have brains will understand who is where ... To have the best lands, natural resources (there is nothing in the Republic of Belarus except for potassium!), To have aircraft manufacturing, mechanical engineering, shipbuilding, scientific potential - and eventually exchange everything for the cookies of the West. To such an extent that you can even buy decommissioned boats and be proud of it ....
      And you are talking about the cruiser .... request smile
      1. +1
        2 March 2022 09: 35
        they used to say if you want to ruin the country, give it a cruiser (camera)))
        1. +1
          5 March 2022 12: 51
          Licor, not a cruiser. It sounded like this.
      2. -14
        2 March 2022 11: 58
        let's then donate a cruiser to Belarus ... there is one ownerless one ... really, why does Belarus need real estate abroad ...
        1. +1
          3 March 2022 16: 25
          Let's give you a brain Why do you need a brain in another body? They still don’t know how to transplant, I think they will learn when the captured Sumerians dig out the Belarusian Sea. Then the cruiser of Belarus and your brain ... all the sisters in the earrings))
          1. 0
            11 March 2022 13: 42
            Yes, your opinion is very important to me (not really).
    2. +2
      3 March 2022 19: 39
      Ukraine cruiser...

      They already had


      stood for three decades and rotted against the wall, why do they need a cruiser, now only rubber tubs and artillery boats !!!
      1. 0
        11 May 2022 21: 34
        This cruiser must be captured, restored and renamed "Moscow".
  2. +4
    2 March 2022 06: 09
    good review and analysis
  3. 0
    2 March 2022 06: 42
    Slovaks again showed their selfishness! can't wait to guess.
  4. +9
    2 March 2022 06: 48
    But the information was all over the news feeds. And even as it was believed, it seemed beyond the brackets that rich NATO members promised the poorer ones to compensate for the transfer with their used equipment or money. And this is a lie. And how to believe the news.
    1. 0
      4 May 2022 15: 49
      Who said it's a lie? Article author? And you unconditionally believe him? On what basis? You do not suggest that the denial of the transfer of aircraft may be disinformation to distract our command? But in fact, they may well transfer the ukram. Not the fact that this will be of great benefit, but some, perhaps, will be. And, most importantly, for NATO, this is an excellent reason to unify weapons in the Eastern European countries of the alliance with the rest
  5. +12
    2 March 2022 07: 00
    There is another problem, perhaps the main one, this is Putin's warning to those who try to intervene in the situation. Anyone who intervenes will face something that has not yet been encountered in their history. I suspect that only Japan has faced something like this in its history.
    1. -2
      2 March 2022 09: 44
      There is another problem, perhaps the main one, this is Putin's warning to those who try to intervene in the situation. Anyone who intervenes will face something that they have not yet encountered in their history ...

      And then he was reminded that the West also has something to answer! God forbid! Let those who lead the world come to their senses!
      1. 0
        2 March 2022 09: 47
        Anyone who intervenes will face something they have not yet encountered in their history...

        Quote: pytar
        And then he was reminded that the West also has something to answer

        Are you talking about yesterday's airplanes, or what? Explain as much as you can...
      2. +6
        2 March 2022 10: 28
        Quote: pytar
        And then he was reminded that the West also has something to answer!

        Well, remember what? Just let someone intervene. And reminders won't help you. Stop humiliating Russia and making a monster out of it. Russia is a very peaceful and overly patient country. But Russia's patience is not unlimited. For some reason, in the West they think that Russia MUST. Russia owes nothing to anyone. Change your behavior towards Russia and Russia will not even look in your direction.
        1. -5
          2 March 2022 11: 48
          Well, remember what? Just let someone intervene.

          It seems to me that GDP, threatening with the use of nuclear weapons, is trying to convince the West that it is ready for anything. But if, God forbid, it comes to hell, I highly doubt that he will press the red button. The fact is that the Russian Federation, using nuclear weapons, can indeed cause considerable damage to NATO countries, but the answer is to wipe it off the ground. The Kremlin is well aware of this, there are hardly any suicide bombers there.
          Russia is a very peaceful and overly patient country.

          Recent events refute this assertion. The world's perception of Russia has changed dramatically and not for the better.
          For some reason, in the West they think that Russia MUST. Russia owes nothing to anyone.

          No one thinks that, UTB your erroneous ideas. No one owes anyone, politics is guided by interests.
          Change your behavior towards Russia and Russia will not even look in your direction.

          The attitude changes dramatically. As well as behavior. And not in the best way, unfortunately ...

          Note: In all my comments I express only my personal opinion.
          1. Mwg
            +3
            2 March 2022 19: 03
            I will express my opinion. We have everything in our country. Especially uranium, titanium, rare earth metals, steel, gas (you already have 2200 in Europe), oil. We also produce 14% (together with Ukraine 25%) of world grain consumption and export 2/3 of agricultural products. Has the attitude changed? We will endure. Can you bear it? Do you have everything that we have in abundance?
            1. -3
              3 March 2022 01: 01
              Your comment is reasonable, for the difference of many others here. Therefore I will answer. I also express my personal opinion, and I am not a "specialist in all matters", like some here. Your country is the richest in natural resources on the planet, that's a fact. You are indeed exporting a huge amount of harshness. On this, you get the currency with which you buy equipment and spare parts for the extraction of this harshness. Without them, the efficiency and volume of production will drop sharply. For some sectors it is critical. Of course, you will manage for some time, part of it can be compensated through supplies from China, he definitely won’t miss the chance to get rich. As for the West, it has technology. Not only do you have surovins, but prices will rise and everything will rise in price. Westerners are much more sensitive to declining living standards. They will not tolerate it, but ... a very important factor interferes here - public opinion, an understanding of what is happening and what needs to be done! This is where you suffer a heavy defeat! No matter how they tell you on TV, you are not right in this war! I guess some time will pass and many of you will also begin to understand that something is wrong here ... Time is working against Russia. authorities. If Ukraine holds out for another week, you won't stand a chance of winning. Any, incl. and military help will come in more and more. It seems to me that Ross. the general staff miscalculated, did not appreciate the will of the Ukrainians to resist. A very bad impression is made by the state of Russia. technology used in operations. Damn, once upon a time in the BNA I served on the same equipment! Training, motivation of soldiers at an extremely low level. Ukrainians are ready to suffer losses, and you? Parents send Ukrainian soldiers to fight, and yours do not even know where their sons are, their father, and whether they are alive at all! How to start learning? You can't hide losses forever! More ... Russian supply. the army is bad. The logistics are terrible. It can be seen that the problem with corruption, theft has remained, and now we see the results. It is one thing to dress beautifully and paint effectively for parades, and another thing is what is in the warehouses.
              In short, I have no idea how this will all end! request But I know for sure that it will be bad for everyone, well, probably with the exception of China ...

              By the way, natural disasters of unprecedented mashaba, hunger, more infections will happen soon, and everyone will not be up to the war.

              Note: Do not take my comment as anti-Russian, I am trying to objectively, impartially assess the situation, but I do not pretend to be the "first instance" hi
              1. Mwg
                +2
                3 March 2022 07: 38
                "They will not tolerate it, but ... a very important factor interferes here - public opinion, understanding of what is happening and what needs to be done!" - You touched something important. For you, I mean - the West. It was this "public opinion" that once united the European countries around Hitler's Germany, and how did it end? Europe is stepping on the same rake. But today you are not the same Europe as in 1941. There is more ambition, but less emotional and psychological stability (the result of the introduction of various kinds of tolerance). Once again: rake! In our country, 85% of the population supports the actions of our state in Ukraine. If the Europeans suddenly decide that they should participate in the "punishment" of Russia with weapons, then I am sure that the answer will make you wonder.
                You are talking about the spirit of Ukrainian soldiers. What is he based on? captured nationalists said that they were sent to parts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, one in each unit to monitor this spirit. Such are the "commissars" - overseers. Do you think that the soldiers of Ukraine are the same as you - live in illusions? You are wrong! No one wants to die for the sake of the fact that the top would continue to line their pockets with US money. The overwhelming majority see reality and internally disagree with it.
                But at the expense of Russian technology - they laughed to tears))))))))
                Well, how naive do you have to be to consider a generally accepted fact as the exact opposite ??? Yes, look around, maybe right now they are taking off your pants, and you, with your naivety, think that this is just an itch in the lower back))))))))))))))
                1. 0
                  9 March 2022 23: 54
                  It was this "public opinion" that once united the European countries around Hitler's Germany, and how did it end?

                  Shas all of Europe thinks you are like that. "Months of swearing and assurances that we are not going to attack, and then at 4 o'clock in the morning...", I will not quote further, otherwise they will be banned.
                  In our country, 85% of the population supports the actions of our state in Ukraine.

                  Hitler supported even more. And it didn't end well for him...
                  Yes, look around, maybe right now they are taking off your pants, and you, with your naivety, think that this is just an itch in the lower back

                  I have half of my relatives in Russia. According to them, that's exactly what you do.
                  Well, how naive do you have to be to consider a generally accepted fact as the exact opposite ???

                  By 9.03. changes in the tone of the Russian are already outlined. propagandists. It is no longer a "fact", but you will soon find out that it is not "generally recognized". Get rid of illusions soon and it will be painful.
              2. +2
                9 March 2022 23: 34
                you watch a lot of fake news feel Ukrainians draw the letter Z on their burnt columns and pass them off as ours feel Judging by your comment, they don’t draw in vain, you believe. There are many revelations of their fakes on the network feel but you see what you would like to see. Yes, and we fight differently with the Ukrainians, Valokha-Vladimir Zhoga, the commander of Sparta, is an example of this. The kingdom of heaven to him. Died protecting refugees.
                1. 0
                  9 March 2022 23: 47
                  you watch a lot of fake news, Ukrainians draw the letter Z on their burnt columns and pass it off as ours

                  ...and they also demolish their own cities with hailstones, bombs and rockets, the Ukrainian military surrenders in batches, the local population welcomes the "liberators" with open arms, and much more. I watch this, but not on Ukrainian fakes, but on Russian ones. By the way, recently, the tone has begun to change there, it’s clear that they began to suspect something ...
                  I get the most truthful information from my many friends who are on the ground events. They say completely different things.
                  1. +1
                    9 March 2022 23: 57
                    Quote: pytar
                    you watch a lot of fake news, Ukrainians draw the letter Z on their burnt columns and pass it off as ours

                    ...and they also demolish their own cities with hailstones, bombs and rockets, the Ukrainian military surrenders in batches, the local population welcomes the "liberators" with open arms, and much more. I watch this, but not on Ukrainian fakes, but on Russian ones. By the way, recently, the tone has begun to change there, it’s clear that they began to suspect something ...
                    I get the most truthful information from my many friends who are on the ground events. They are talking about a completely different picture.

                    if your friends are Ukrainians, then 100000 people have already died due to their fakes and they knocked out all the tanks, there are no comments about the pilot "Ghost" at all, and so we eat hedgehogs and the Internet with us on coupons request read a poem by Taras Shevchenko, a poem about kho.khlov, he is also Ukrainian, he won’t lie. I told you that you see what you WOULD like to see. I didn't mistake you. Where did the tone begin to change?! I didn’t notice. What do they tell you about Mariupol?
                    1. 0
                      9 March 2022 23: 59
                      Half of my friends are Ukrainians, and half of my relatives, Russians, live in Russia. There are fakes on both sides, I'm not interested. Yes, by the way, we have already received more than 28 thousand. refugees, mostly women, children and the elderly! So we know from the first person what is really going on there.
                    2. 0
                      10 March 2022 00: 07
                      What do they tell you about Mariupol?

                      I almost forgot! About Mariupol! Why is the Russian the army has opened gum corridors to... the territories occupied by it! Clearly, no one wants to go in that direction. People want to be with their own people, you are no longer your own for the locals, you are the enemy who vilely attacked their country. Nobody called you there!
                      1. 0
                        10 March 2022 00: 14
                        Quote: pytar
                        What do they tell you about Mariupol?

                        I almost forgot! About Mariupol! Why is the Russian the army has opened gum corridors to... the territories occupied by it! Clearly, no one wants to go in that direction. People want to be with their own people, you are no longer your own for the locals, you are the enemy who vilely attacked their country. Nobody called you there!

                        DON'T WANT??? Hmm...and you tell me about propaganda and sanity?! wassat They are not released, a human shield, haven’t you heard?! There, hunger will soon begin and the Nazis, Ustashe, Poles and other canned food, but they DON’T WANT?! I had a different opinion about you, but you are a true "brother" good
                      2. 0
                        10 March 2022 00: 17
                        "human shield", that's on your TVs. Reality is completely different. By the way, yesterday I spoke with my friend, a Bulgarian from Odessa, he has always been a Russophile. Shas says that the population everywhere is determined to defend the cities from your troops, there are no weapons for everyone in the volunteer battalions. He himself recently received a bolt. citizenship, but decided to stay and fight against you.
                        I had a different opinion about you, but you are a true "brother"

                        I say what I see. It goes against your mindset, but that doesn't mean you're right. Brother is not the one who says what you want to hear, but the one who tells you the truth.
                      3. 0
                        10 March 2022 00: 38
                        Quote: pytar
                        I say what I see

                        You say you're allowed to see.

                        Quote: pytar
                        It goes against your mindset, but that doesn't mean you're right.

                        It also does not mean that you are right.

                        Quote: pytar
                        Brother is not the one who says what you want to hear, but the one who tells you the truth

                        Only God knows the truth. I bet - in a couple of years your "truth" will be diametrically opposed to what you write today. And it is right Yes
                      4. -1
                        19 March 2022 20: 42
                        Where the branches of the trees are intertwined tightly,
                        And on the other side the steppe stretches
                        There were people who appreciated each other very much
                        And the people were strengthened by this friendship!

                        And next to them hovered a swamp
                        It smoked with a heavy stench all the time,
                        But one day the gate opened by chance -
                        The enemy attacked and brought terrible evil to them!

                        Source: https://poembook.ru/poem/1329140
                      5. 0
                        10 March 2022 00: 20
                        Quote: pytar
                        What do they tell you about Mariupol?

                        I almost forgot! About Mariupol! Why is the Russian the army has opened gum corridors to... the territories occupied by it! Clearly, no one wants to go in that direction. People want to be with their own people, you are no longer your own for the locals, you are the enemy who vilely attacked their country. Nobody called you there!

                        "Azov" are fascists, and you saw their tattoos, and the banner, and swastikas on helmets, look on the Internet good Mariupol is the Luhansk region, who are their own, what are you talking about?! wassat Your friends read the wrong books, Mein Kampf, just like you. It's embarrassing to say that you don't know!!!
                      6. 0
                        10 March 2022 00: 25
                        I don’t approve of Azov, I remember in 2014 I personally wrote a million comments against them. But they, together with all the people, are defending their country, and you attacked it. I have known Ukrainians for a long time, they have always been "walk the field", disunited, unorganized, unformed as a nation. But February 24.02 changed everything! They united, became one People, in front of which stands the strongest enemy! It's amazing when you watch all this from the side, impartially, it looks amazing! This is how many nations were born.
                      7. -1
                        10 March 2022 00: 34
                        Quote: pytar
                        But they, together with all the people, are defending their country, and you attacked it

                        Shas "Azov", having taken hostages and surrounded by mines, sits in Mariupol and thinks what to do next.

                        If this is "with the people", then I am the same Bulgarian as you. By the way: what is a mine-petal, you know, Bulgarian? And here I know...

                        Quote: pytar
                        So many nations were born, mine also went through such a soldering fire

                        Difficult Russian language (c). The word "solder" in it has several meanings, and not all of them have a positive connotation. laughing
                      8. Mwg
                        -1
                        10 March 2022 15: 16
                        Only in the place of the "Aidara" checkpoint in the village of Polovinkino in the Starobelsky district of the LPR, for some reason, cells, torture rooms and places for executions were found. Is this to protect your people?
                      9. 0
                        10 March 2022 00: 27
                        Quote: pytar
                        What do they tell you about Mariupol?

                        I almost forgot! About Mariupol! Why is the Russian the army has opened gum corridors to... the territories occupied by it! Clearly, no one wants to go in that direction. People want to be with their own people, you are no longer your own for the locals, you are the enemy who vilely attacked their country. Nobody called you there!

                        here you are often like that, you don’t smile sincerely, you don’t sincerely sympathize, you’re not real !!! That's what got out of you good The Tatar from "Brother-2" spoke correctly ... the end of the connection.
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                      14. Mwg
                        -1
                        10 March 2022 15: 11
                        Dear Boyan Ivanov, I want to recall your first comment, where you talked about sanity. Now I'm quoting you: "People want to join their own people, you are no longer your own for the locals, you are an enemy who vilely attacked their country. Nobody called you there!" Did you notice that you spoke in slogans? And almost all the "defenders" of Ukraine write as a carbon copy: you are the enemy who vilely attacked their country. Nobody called you there!
                        Change the record or change the construction of phrases, otherwise you are too lazy to read the same thing. And explain to the curator that you are no longer perceived as a person with a personal opinion and are beginning to be confused with the radio.
                  2. 0
                    10 March 2022 00: 02
                    Quote: pytar
                    you watch a lot of fake news, Ukrainians draw the letter Z on their burnt columns and pass it off as ours

                    ...and they also demolish their own cities with hailstones, bombs and rockets, the Ukrainian military surrenders in batches, the local population welcomes the "liberators" with open arms, and much more. I watch this, but not on Ukrainian fakes, but on Russian ones. By the way, recently, the tone has begun to change there, it’s clear that they began to suspect something ...
                    I get the most truthful information from my many friends who are on the ground events. They say completely different things.

                    There is a video about the city in Kharkov, where a local, knowing the city, says who is beating and these are not Russians, to your disappointment. Like the "Caliber" in the Kiev skyscraper. They fired their rocket from the "Buk", and inflated that the Russians. Hmm ...
                    1. 0
                      10 March 2022 00: 13
                      There is a video about hailstones in Kharkov, where a local, knowing the city, says who is beating and these are not Russians, to your disappointment.

                      Especially fake, illogical, inadequate Russian. propaganda about Kharkov! Our well-known doctor lives in the city, he has been working there for many years. Yes, there are others of ours. Most of the defense is held by terbats! These are local volunteers, there are tens of thousands of them! They will not fire at their houses, their families, even if some madman orders them! Kharkov, before the attack, was one of the most Russian cities in Ukraine, where pro-Russian sentiments were always very strong. Until that fatal morning of 24.02... Everyone there hates you and fights against you! 14 days, your "glorious" army, cannot "liberate" Kharkov. And everywhere it is.
                      1. -1
                        10 March 2022 00: 49
                        Quote: pytar
                        Most of the defense is held by terbats! These are local volunteers, there are tens of thousands of them!

                        And they read the course "Crowd Psychology" to me request

                        Quote: pytar
                        Shas there everyone hates you and fights against you

                        In your dreams, Bulgarian. I also have contacts in Kharkov, unfortunately.
            2. -2
              5 March 2022 12: 55
              There is only one question - do you (I, everyone around you) have something from this, except for a headache with hemorrhoids? The cream is skimmed by the oligarchic pro-government group. Alas, not communism.
              1. Mwg
                0
                5 March 2022 14: 41
                And how did you want? Who manages, he lives well. And the people also get: defense, agricultural subsidies, subsidies to medium and small businesses, infrastructure (which means jobs), pensions, medicine (whatever it is, but free), education (whatever it is, but the budget is still taking ) social assistance, single mothers, disabled children.
                This is all budget money and not small
            3. -1
              12 May 2022 11: 53
              With rare land, we still strained, they were mainly on the territory of the former Soviet Central Asia and we successfully pumped them, China is now mining them there.
      3. +1
        2 March 2022 11: 40
        Until the West calms down, you will live in fear of destruction, maybe mutual. And today I have barbecue, my son is flying in.
        1. 0
          2 March 2022 13: 38
          Until the West settles down, you will live in fear of destruction, maybe mutual.

          The West will not calm down until yours calms down. And if they don’t calm down, after the nuclear winter leaves, only the Chinese and some others somewhere in Africa will remain on the earth.
          And I have kebabs today, my son is flying in.

          Bravo! Enjoy life, it may turn out to be shorter than expected.
          I am for world peace! drinks I'm sure it will! hi
          1. +2
            2 March 2022 15: 52
            Quote: pytar
            The West will not calm down until yours calms down. And if they don’t calm down, after the nuclear winter leaves, only the Chinese and some others somewhere in Africa will remain on the earth.

            And why should the first settle down? Your first started. Let the first one calm down. And I am for the world. Only the world should be for everyone, and not for the elite.
            1. -1
              3 March 2022 01: 19
              And why should the first settle down? Your first started. Let the first one calm down.

              This is not a village beer kiosk where two people fight and argue who offended whom first! The first one should cool off the wrong one "who started firstand the one who is smarter!
              1. +1
                3 March 2022 01: 56
                Smarter is smarter. But the trouble is, the stupid one does not want and cannot listen to the position of the smart one. Well, go to the gopniks and tell them about Nietzsche. laughing But if you break everyone down to bloody snot, you will have very attentive listeners, happy to discuss fears about the expansion of an aggressive group of strong guys to the boundaries of the apartment of a smart philosopher, behind whom a distinct bloody trail stretches.
              2. 0
                3 March 2022 11: 16
                those. do you admit that the west is "not smart", so we should be the first to calm down?
              3. 0
                19 March 2022 20: 46
                Quote: pytar
                And why should the first settle down? Your first started. Let the first one calm down.

                This is not a village beer kiosk where two people fight and argue who offended whom first! The first one should cool off the wrong one "who started firstand the one who is smarter!


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                Don't touch Russia, gentlemen! Doncho N. Donchev
                Evgeny Ermolin: literary diary
                Do not touch Russia, gentlemen!
                She hurts without your reproach.
                She is in terms of self-incrimination
                Myself never knew equal.


                Do not touch Russia, gentlemen!
                What do you need, both full and dressed,
                From the country that, having gained half the world,
                Today is both sad and poor.


                Remember how she saved you
                In a year of devastating raids.
                And now not from your shore
                Indifferent blasphemy?


                Do not touch Russia, gentlemen!
                Now you praise truthfulness,
                But blindly believe in your justice -
                Occupation worthy of a jester.


                Russia is not wrong.
                Tired of crying and praying
                She will forgive both the thief and the harlot,
                Forgive you for stupid words.


                She will forgive me, but to the side of my days -
                To be ashamed of you in confusion squeamish
                For the fact that Russia shouts shouting
                Learns about my Bulgaria.


                Do not touch Russia, gentlemen!
                After all, you do not know her, ignoramus.
                Great patience and hope,
                She is no match for the other world!


                Do not touch Russia, and she
                And this time confidently and proudly
                Without extra phrases, he will solve his crosswords,
                She is fenced from all evil.


                Yes, you must thank her
                Already for the fact that she is in the world,
                For the fact that you and your children
                To share one fate with her fate.


                And if you can’t help, then
                Exit, even if not interfering.
                Otherwise, I’m not responsible for myself.
                Don't touch Russia, gentlemen !!!


                (Doncho Nanov Donchev)
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                19 March 2022 20: 59
                Quote: pytar
                And why should the first settle down? Your first started. Let the first one calm down.

                This is not a village beer kiosk where two people fight and argue who offended whom first! The first one should cool off the wrong one "who started firstand the one who is smarter!

                Ukrainians

                "the Ukrainian will remain a crest
                Though you let him in Europe
                Where to act with the mind,
                He only annoys f * ck.

                And that is why in Russia
                Bequeathed as much by Monomakh:
                "Contact God forbid!
                With three - a Jew, a Khokhl and a Pig. "

                A cunning jew, though blind;
                Puffy Lyakh - worse than bl ** and,
                the Ukrainian will eat bread with you,
                And then shit in your soup "(c).

                "Ukrainians" T.G. Shevchenko 1851
          2. +1
            2 March 2022 19: 08
            The West will not calm down until yours calms down.
            - the Anglo-Saxons have not been able to calm down for more than one century. And don’t consider Putin a monster, I myself don’t have an unambiguous attitude towards him - I never voted for him, BUT now he did everything right ... And what Europe thinks doesn’t give a damn, she was always afraid of big Russia ...
          3. Mwg
            0
            2 March 2022 19: 08
            I apologize for interfering with your correspondence, but the phrase "Enjoy life, it may turn out to be shorter than expected" is alarming. Are you enjoying this, you think? Or are you dreaming?
            1. +3
              3 March 2022 01: 14
              Nothing that is happening now makes me happy. Vice versa! Upsets and causes grief! Life can be easily interrupted, and it is priceless! I think a few days ago the world crossed a very important border! Whether this will be the beginning of epiphany or the path to darkness, time will tell...
              1. Mwg
                +1
                3 March 2022 08: 03
                Want to be honest? Well, sincerely? A human life is worth exactly as much as this person benefits others. If a person does not benefit anyone, then his life is really priceless. Although crafty people convinced you of the opposite. And they imposed many more empty rules and regulations. Do you know why they (crafty people) need it? In order to take away your spirit, your strength, to teach you to think and teach you to listen to other people's explanations. You no longer trust your common sense and consider the pompous stupidity repeated many times to be true. Hence your problems. And that's why the Russians are to blame for you - because you were told so. Don't believe? Example: in the Caucasus there is such a saying: if a person is told 1000 times that he is a pig, he will grunt. And this is folk wisdom about how very easy it is to make people believe. You were made to believe that the Russians are to blame for all the troubles that happen to you. But in fact, you are simply distracted from what is actually happening. Americans have been grazing happily in your pockets for a long time; sleep with your women; you are driven to where they need and when they need. Well, that's not all. Soon you will be normalized and made to believe that a same-sex family is the best form of family. And then you will donate seed material and your children will grow up in special institutions for the purposes that the owner determines. Does this type of relationship remind you of anything? This is a farm. But at the same time, you will sincerely believe that each of you is a person, because you were told so. And all the bad things come from the Russians. Wake up! Before you are finally dehumanized, wake up! Live the life of a person who makes decisions for his life. Himself, not the owner
              2. 0
                9 May 2022 12: 27
                I agree, I always enjoy reading your speeches. Mamma mia, how Russia fell, the Soviet Union was better, it was made of steel people. It is enough, thanks to the support of the West, that we have not yet managed to defeat Ukraine, which, as you always thought, will melt like snow in the sun, that you, like children, run to your mother to say that the West brat does not give me Ukraine, let's apply nuclear weapons, mom, please, mom, we are so immune to radiation. But when the USSR rightly supported Vietnam, it was about the use of atomic weapons????? when Douglas MacArthur advocated the use of nuclear weapons in Korea, he was removed from his post and fired. So enough with this enumeration of nuclear weapons.
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      5. 0
        2 March 2022 23: 11
        Who "reminded" him? Everyone wisely kept silent!
    2. +2
      2 March 2022 10: 30
      Do you want a response with nuclear missiles? Who is familiar with the system of deployment of nuclear weapons knows: the losses of opponents will be equivalent. Moreover, bombing the neighbors is a shot in the foot. Radiation will come to us.
  6. KCA
    +2
    2 March 2022 07: 24
    Su-27 air defense fighter, MIG-29 front-line fighter, on the ground they are a little more than nothing at all, with whom will they fight? With modern SU? Yes, their duckling will tear them into rags, and even the SU-30 or 35 will simply sneeze in their direction and collect ejection seats, Rook can cause trouble, but if he gets into attack distance, and there, I hope, they are waiting
    1. 0
      2 March 2022 23: 17
      MiG-29 is not front-line, multi-purpose. It can work on the ground.
  7. +5
    2 March 2022 07: 35
    And who then had doubts that all this "noise" would end with this? Who is an EU minister for any government of an EU member state? Well, almost no one...
  8. 0
    2 March 2022 09: 27
    The other day, someone wrote here from Bulgaria that they had big problems with repairs and that only 4 aircraft would be built in. And the Bulgarians were not going to transfer anything
    1. 0
      2 March 2022 17: 45
      You are right, even the Prime Minister of Bulgaria came out and said on TV that we would not transfer any aviation to Ukraine. We don't have enough. :)
  9. +3
    2 March 2022 10: 17
    They are there, in Europe, fools, or what?! Just like that, no one knows who, to give away expensive aircraft! And who do you ask then? This is tantamount to throwing your planes in a landfill!
  10. +1
    2 March 2022 10: 34
    Yes, yes, from airfields in Poland. No matter how inadequate the Polish politicians are, they, and, moreover, the army are well aware that this will make them a party to the conflict and it will not work to complain to NATO later. But journalists what, if only to write.
  11. +4
    2 March 2022 13: 42
    There will be no deliveries.
    A submarine in the steppes of Ukraine died in an unequal aerial battle.
  12. +1
    2 March 2022 16: 07
    Well, at least not 70 Fu-35s were announced .. wassat Although, the "pan-headed jumpers" and "ukrosvidomitosapiens" would have had enough sense for this .. hi
  13. +1
    2 March 2022 16: 59
    "... The Ukrainian Air Force will not receive new equipment and will not be based on foreign airfields .."
    The basing of military aviation immediately makes the host country a party to the conflict.
    The President of Russia warned about this. And his words do not diverge from his deeds. Everyone was convinced.
  14. 0
    2 March 2022 23: 25
    Quote: your vsr 66-67
    They are there, in Europe, fools, or what?! Just like that, no one knows who, to give away expensive aircraft! And who do you ask then? This is tantamount to throwing your planes in a landfill!

    The military meaning of the event is zero. But the goal is to pit three more Slavic states against Russia. Of course Migi will be shot down in an instant. And there is a sign of state affiliation ... Well, they "forgotten" to change, you see ...
  15. +1
    4 March 2022 05: 16
    Interesting, but it turns out. Well, the operation is understandable. But then comes humanitarian aid from us (food, clothes, medicines) and "humanitarian aid" from them (weapons). Such is the attitude of these creatures towards Ukraine.
  16. 0
    5 March 2022 12: 50
    Quote: Aerodrome
    give ukraine a cruiser...

    Ticonderoga?
  17. 0
    5 March 2022 12: 59
    Initially, it was clear that there would be no deliveries of aircraft, because. Russian spare parts are needed for them, and if this equipment is transferred to an independent one, there will be no deliveries, there will be nothing to repair old aircraft, and flights will end before they even begin. This is for you, gentlemen Khokhls, not NLAWs disposable. How did Zelya not ask for another 1000 F-35x?
  18. 0
    6 March 2022 01: 16
    First of all, it is not clear why the Navy is reporting aid for the Air Force.

    What is incomprehensible here? They have nothing else to swim on. Now they want to fly.
  19. +1
    7 March 2022 13: 35
    The fact is that the Russian Federation, using nuclear weapons, can indeed cause considerable damage to NATO countries, but the answer is to wipe it off the ground. The Kremlin is well aware of this, there are hardly any suicide bombers there.

    1. To wipe Russia off the face of the earth with nuclear weapons will also not work, and this must be clearly understood if someone does not know. At the same time, Russia will not disintegrate as a state. But the EU and the US, although they will not be wiped off the face of the earth either, will disintegrate as an organization of society after the first nuclear strikes. Look at what happened in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and multiply that by the entire US and EU. As the Americans themselves say, "he who lives in a glass house should not throw stones."
    2. After the exchange of nuclear strikes between Russia and NATO, China will remain the only world superpower.
    The escalation of this local conflict into a full-scale war with the use of nuclear weapons will be an ordeal for Russia, but for the US, EU and NATO, it will be pure suicide. It's good that who needs to understand this and I think it won't come to this.
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  21. 0
    9 May 2022 12: 05
    The problem is that it makes no sense to supply Ukraine with aircraft. What difference can a few delivered aircraft make ??? Wanting to supply Ukraine with used F.16 or simpler aircraft, I absurdly assume that, like the KAI T-50 Berkut in the F50 variant, it will take too long to train pilots, provided that there are enough pilots. Drones get cheaper over time. I'm starting to think that the times of skynet and the terminator are close. Wishes to the winner.
  22. 0
    15 May 2022 23: 38
    Customize the independent hang gliders. And what, you don’t need fuel, you can repair it with the help of threads and patches. Do you know what troubles an evil lad with grenades can do on a hang glider?
  23. 0
    28 May 2022 07: 39
    How interesting to read posts like this. When the deliveries of aircraft have already been made and helicopters.