Tomahawk missiles in Eastern Europe. Missile threat and responses to it

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Experienced rocket Tomahawk Block IV in flight

American military activity in Eastern Europe is a potential threat to Russia's security. The main risks of this kind are associated with the deployment of existing and future missile systems in the region. In particular, the emergence of Tomahawk missiles on various carriers and the fundamental possibility of a strike using them can lead to the most serious consequences.

Missile threat


Despite their advanced age, Tomahawk cruise missiles are still one of the most important elements of the US Navy's strike weapons system. In addition, attempts are being made to return such weapon in the arsenals of the ground forces. The fundamental possibility of using it on different platforms provides high flexibility in combat use and increases the effectiveness of a massive strike.



In all modifications, Tomahawk is a subsonic cruise missile capable of flying to a target at an altitude of several tens of meters. The flight range for missiles of the latest modifications exceeds 1500-1600 km. Guidance is provided by inertial navigation, terrain tracking and other devices. Previously, missiles were equipped with nuclear warheads; current modifications carry conventional monoblock or cluster charges weighing 450 kg.


Aegis Ashore missile system at the Romanian base Deveselu

Ground launch


Of particular concern to the Russian leadership is the fundamental possibility of deploying Tomahawks on ground platforms and facilities. This method of basing gives the missiles certain combat and tactical advantages, which makes it a noticeable threat. In addition, until recently, such products on ground installations violated the existing Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

The main source of such a threat at the moment is the Aegis Ashore missile system. One such facility has been on combat duty at the Romanian Deveselu base since 2016, and the second one is being built in Poland, at the Redzikovo base. The deadline for the construction of the latter has been repeatedly shifted, and now it is planned to be commissioned in 2022.

"Aegis Ashore" is a set of tools borrowed from warships such as Ticonderoga or Arleigh Burke, and installed on ground structures. It consists primarily of a tower with a radar station and a stationary version of the Mk 41 launcher. The installation includes three standard modules and can accommodate 24 missile containers.


Launch of "Tomahawk" from an experimental ground installation, 2019

According to official data, Aegis Ashore is a missile defense system and uses only SM-3 interceptor missiles. However, the Mk 41 installation can accept other types of missiles, incl. drum "Tomahawk", and the software of the complex can be supplemented with modules for its use. Accordingly, without much effort, the missile defense system can become a strike system.

However, the combat value of Aegs Ashore in strike configuration is not too great. So, the ammunition of the complex is limited. It is hardly necessary to reduce the already small number of anti-missiles by deploying cruise missiles instead. In addition, such a use of the complex actually renders its complex and expensive radar part useless - target designation for the Tomahawk will be issued by other means. Finally, an immovable object presents a fairly easy target for a retaliatory or preemptive strike.

Land perspective


However, in the future, a new missile system with cruise missiles, devoid of the shortcomings of the Aegis Ashore, may appear in the arsenal of the US Army. It is being developed as part of the Mid-Range Capability program and is called Typhon. It takes a few more years to complete the work, but the main capabilities of the complex are already known.


A cruise missile leaving the Mk 41 launcher of USS Farragut (DDG-99)

The battery of the Typhon complex will include four mobile launchers built on the basis of semi-trailers. Each of them will receive a lifting unit for 4 TPKs with missiles. The main ammunition of the complex can be the Tomahawk product. The use of SM-6 missiles in the original anti-aircraft or new quasi-ballistic role is also being worked out.

Unlike a stationary complex, the MRC Typhoon will be able to quickly move to the optimal position and leave it before a retaliatory strike. In this case, one battery will be able to launch up to 16 missiles in one gulp, and then reload and perform another launch. The regular command post of the battery will receive only the necessary equipment for receiving target designation and launch control. He does not need his own radar and other complex components.

Offshore platforms


The main carriers of Tomahawks at the moment are ships and submarines of the US Navy. The surface fleet uses such weapons with Mk 41 or Mk 57 launchers, and submarines launch them through torpedo tubes or dedicated launchers. There are dozens of carriers in service, each of which can carry the required number of missiles.


Rocket launch by USS Stethem (DDG-63)

Missile ammunition load depends on the type of ship. Thus, the Ticonderoga cruisers have two launchers with 122 cells. Arleigh Burke destroyers of different series have 90 or 96 cells. The latest Zumwalt-class ships carry 160 TPKs with various types of missiles. Multipurpose nuclear submarines Virginia and Los Angeles have separate launchers for 12 Tomahawks. Seawolf submarines can launch such missiles through torpedo tubes and carry 50 missiles and torpedoes. Of particular interest are four Ohio-class nuclear submarines converted from strategic missile carriers to cruise missile carriers. They have 22 launchers with 7 Tomahawks each - a total of 154 units.

Ships and submarines have known advantages. They are highly mobile and can patrol or quickly go to a given area, which they regularly demonstrate. In addition, surface and submarine ships are capable of carrying dozens of cruise missiles, as well as weapons for other purposes.

American ships regularly appear near the Russian coast, incl. in the region of Eastern Europe. Being in the waters of the Baltic or Black Sea, they can threaten our facilities at a great distance from the seas. Submarines deployed in the Mediterranean Sea have a smaller, but rather high potential.

Tomahawk missiles in Eastern Europe. Missile threat and responses to it

The first seconds of the flight; the destroyer USS Chaffee (DDG-90) is firing

Missile potential


At present, the United States has the theoretical and practical capabilities to deploy Tomahawk cruise missiles in Eastern Europe and off its coasts, and on two seas at once. Even remaining within the framework of existing international agreements, the American army can concentrate dozens of surface-to-surface missiles near the Russian borders that threaten objects at a great depth of defense. At the same time, the strike force on land and at sea will retain certain opportunities for defense.

It is expected that in the future similar capabilities of the US Army will grow. The promising ground-based Typhon missile system can be used to quickly create a grouping of the right size with the desired capabilities in the required direction. In large quantities, such systems will become a very useful and dangerous addition to warships and submarines.

The missile threat in the form of naval and land-based Tomahawks must be taken into account when building our defenses. At the same time, one should not overestimate it and succumb to panic moods. Cruise missiles of this class are not fundamentally invulnerable weapons and fall within the competence of the object air defense.


The Tomahawk rocket takes off from the water. The carrier submarine USS Florida (SSGN-728) of the upgraded Ohio project was not included in the frame

There is every reason to believe that a massive volley of Tomahawk products, dozens of pieces and from different directions, will be able to create a fairly high load on Russian air defense, but will not overload or break through it. Whether there will be enough missiles for the second salvo is a big question. Also, such an attack would result in an obvious response that could rule out a second strike altogether.

Attack and defense


Thus, in order to "contain Russia", the United States can deploy large numbers of cruise missiles on various carriers in Eastern Europe. In addition, new models of equipment are being developed, with the help of which they plan to increase the similar potential of the armed forces. Naturally, all these processes pose a direct danger to our country.

However, the Russian command takes into account existing and emerging risks, and also takes measures, incl. with an eye to the future. As a result, the success of a missile attack on our facilities by existing means is unlikely - and threatens with a retaliatory strike. And it can be expected that this situation will not fundamentally change in the future. In response to the new means of attack of a potential enemy, new defense systems will appear at our western borders.
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  1. +2
    8 February 2022 18: 20
    we have such love with the West that everyone (except wallets) is ready to let the whole world into dust, for the sake of it. and, surprisingly, we are sliding into the abyss, and there are no heads in power who speak from the people, from the heart ... only from the treasury. the world is gone. I think so.
    1. +4
      8 February 2022 19: 11
      Do not worry. Any method of attack cannot work instantly - there is time to launch a response. And oh, how they don’t want to get it there. This is what the world is based on.
      1. 0
        8 February 2022 19: 46
        the software of the complex can be supplemented with modules for its use. Accordingly, without much effort (...)
        My previous boss was the same. Dunning-Kruger effect.
      2. -9
        8 February 2022 21: 16
        Don't be bullshit. Flying time from Mediterranean waters? Something will be intercepted, but not all. Then reload and finish.
  2. +9
    8 February 2022 18: 34
    The tomahawk is a second strike weapon. the first blow is delivered by inconspicuous JASSMs, which are simply brought up on almost everything that flies from f-16 to b-52. The JASSM is a much more difficult target than the Tomahawk.
    if you do not take into account the banana countries, then the tomahawk is basically an infrastructure destroyer.
    1. -3
      8 February 2022 21: 18
      Also nonsense. They will beat from the square. Which we fucking trace everything.
      1. 0
        9 February 2022 12: 06
        Yes. The first blow will be from the submarine. Mass volleys at reconnoitred headquarters, air defense-missile defense positions, selected targets of operational suppression. And the tomahawks will fly after them. The calculation of the West in the destruction of Russia is the mass launch of non-nuclear missiles, hoping that our air defense will not be enough to intercept all anti-missiles. From the first seconds they will begin to iron Kaliningrad with artillery and at any cost they will try to suppress it quickly, until they come to their senses, blocking the electronic warfare of all communications and coordination.
        Oh, there will be many options, but the fact that the submarines will be the first to shoot back as the most unexpected and secretive launch platforms of the first strike is for sure.
  3. +18
    8 February 2022 19: 03
    The new missile is the new threat.
    And why is it considered that tomahawks are a second strike weapon ?? They will look great in the first blow!!! They will simply form an awesome load on air defense systems and they can simply take in quantity !!
    They will load a couple of dozens of Ticonderogues and ArlyBurks with the same current of tamahawks, and even a few apl too - and here's the load on air defense !!!
    And the air defense has such a BC that would bring down, for example, from the southwestern direction from the Black and Mediterranean Seas, a volley of tomahawks, which will fire about 5 ticonderogs and a couple of nuclear submarines ???? And this is if we get 5 * 122 + 2 * 154 = 918 missiles in one salvo to the maximum !!! and at the same time, it is possible to adjust the trajectories of movement so that already 200 km from the carrier it will be one single shaft of missiles - the whole bunch will fly in the interval of 30 seconds.
    How to fight off such a pack??? We have 2000 anti-aircraft missiles on duty???? And how to detect and take for accompaniment ????
    so you don’t have to deal with throwing hats on the enemy and thinking that they can fight with banana countries.
    1. +13
      8 February 2022 19: 36
      I agree with you, for some reason the author of the article writes about dozens of missiles, and there will easily be hundreds of them
      1. -1
        8 February 2022 21: 31
        no need to worry people.
        articles on VO already need to be read like newspapers in Soviet times, to be able to read between the lines :)
        and skip some ritual phrases as meaningless.

        “The missile threat in the form of naval and land-based Tomahawks must be taken into account when building our defense. At the same time, it should not be overestimated and panicked. Cruise missiles of this class are not fundamentally invulnerable weapons and fall within the competence of the object air defense.
        There is every reason to believe that a massive volley of Tomahawk products, dozens of pieces and from different directions, will be able to create a fairly high load on Russian air defense, but will not overload or break through it. Whether there will be enough missiles for the second salvo is a big question. Also, an attack like this would lead to an obvious response that could rule out a second strike altogether."
        "However, the Russian command takes into account existing and emerging risks, and also takes measures, including with an eye to the future. As a result, the success of a missile attack on our facilities by existing means is unlikely - and threatens to retaliate."
      2. -1
        9 February 2022 09: 03
        I agree with you, for some reason the author of the article writes about dozens of missiles, and there will easily be hundreds of them

        And not even hundreds. 2 missiles were used in Iraq. Namely, as a first strike weapon against airfields, "heavy" air defense systems capable of hitting air targets at altitudes of over 3,5 km, headquarters and command posts (primarily strategic, and air defense), state administration apparatuses and other strategic targets in order to clear the way for aviation work.
        https://bukren.my1.ru/publ/ware/asimm_otvet_1/2-1-0-82
    2. +4
      8 February 2022 20: 06
      How to fight off such a pack??? We have 2000 anti-aircraft missiles on duty????

      You are right, the missiles will certainly break through, although not all of them. The main thing is to destroy more with nuclear warheads. And there are countermeasures - these are electronic warfare systems, and air defense missiles with a nuclear warhead. And this is not just a blast wave, it is also a powerful electromagnetic impulse. War is full of surprises. Some will be able to fight back and survive, some will not.
      1. +1
        8 February 2022 20: 51
        SAM Tor M2 ZRPK Shell C2 Tunguska and Strela with Wasps as well as the Air Force and the necessary low-flying target detection radars to help against subsonic Tomahawks on flat terrain.
      2. +6
        8 February 2022 21: 53
        and SAM missiles with a nuclear warhead. And this is not just a blast wave, it is also a powerful electromagnetic impulse.

        And a powerful thermal unevenness at the inlet of the Tomahawk WFD, which will lead to a breakdown in the compressor. This method of dealing with swarms of cruise missiles was already considered in the 70s of the last century, when they were just in development.
      3. 0
        9 February 2022 00: 07
        EW systems against cruise missiles are completely useless - they use a radio altimeter and an electronic map of the area containing the entire flight route. The rocket simply checks hills, hills, ravines, fords, individual buildings with a radio altimeter. For example, she found a couple of hills, compared what she had in the memory of the onboard computer, if it flies further to the next checkpoint. Perhaps comparing the readings with the satellite.

        The only way to deal with them is a pre-emptive salvo on carriers - that is, ships and submarines.
        1. -3
          9 February 2022 00: 42
          ++++ preemptive salvo on carriers - that is, ships and submarines.

          I just need to know where to shoot and with what.
        2. -3
          9 February 2022 09: 49
          yeah ... tell me this to the tomahawks fired in Syria ..... how many reached the targets and how many were reset?
          1. -6
            9 February 2022 09: 54
            Quote: Skipper
            yeah ... tell me this to the tomahawks fired in Syria ..... how many reached the targets and how many were reset?

            All flew (except one) - there were photographs of the bombed base and the number of craters corresponded to the number of axes
            No evidence of knocking down or falling axes to the targets was provided
            1. 0
              9 February 2022 10: 27
              ,, Nowhere do they lie so much as in war and hunting. ,, Sir Winston Churchill. Photo of funnels with coordinate referencing ?
    3. +2
      8 February 2022 21: 39
      The states have long been betting on such a blow, and it is dangerous. A preemptive strike on the places of concentration of launchers is the best solution. It's easy to talk about, but in practice...
      1. 0
        9 February 2022 09: 34
        Quote: Vissarion Golubov
        A preemptive strike on the places of concentration of launchers is the best solution. It's easy to talk about, but in practice...

        The best solution is complex. Those. a blow to the places of concentration along with a blow to the places of decision-making. And in the preliminary announcement, express the opinion that "decision-making places" are covered by warheads with excess power. So let them think before the "go-ahead" ...
    4. Hey
      0
      8 February 2022 22: 41
      As far as is known, the United States has 5500-6000 missiles of this type. If they fire 1000 missiles at a time, then tell me, what will they fight with in a week?
      1. -4
        9 February 2022 06: 01
        Quote: MUD
        As far as is known, the United States has 5500-6000 missiles of this type. If they fire 1000 missiles at a time, then tell me, what will they fight with in a week?

        Stones and sticks.
    5. +2
      9 February 2022 05: 58
      Quote: Evgesha
      How to fight off such a pack???

      You do not.
      But you can quite catch a retaliatory strike.
      Do they need it?
      Therefore, the first blow should be sudden, which is definitely not about Tomogawks.
  4. -2
    8 February 2022 19: 59
    Of particular interest are four Ohio-class nuclear submarines converted from strategic missile carriers to cruise missile carriers. They have 22 launchers with 7 Tomahawks each - a total of 154 units.

    How long does it take to shoot everything?
  5. +4
    8 February 2022 20: 07
    Unfortunately, a massive missile attack will lead to the beginning of the apocalypse, and for everyone.
    However, this is the only thing holding back those who are itching to press the button ...
    1. -6
      8 February 2022 21: 20
      Someday they will not piss, they will decide that this is the norm, and they will press.
      1. 0
        8 February 2022 22: 02
        I hope the fool protection works ... right in the forehead!
  6. +5
    8 February 2022 20: 10
    "The battery of the Typhon complex" - the author, what are you doing? Themselves continue to write Typhoon (Typhoon).
    And on Zumvolts, emnip, it costs 80 uvp, not 160.
  7. AML
    +3
    8 February 2022 20: 34
    Quote: Evgesha

    How to fight off such a pack??? We have 2000 anti-aircraft missiles on duty???? And how to detect and take for accompaniment ????


    For all the time, about ~ 8000 tomahawks were made.
    They shot something, something I am a nuclear warhead. Not the point. Let's take everything. Warhead weight 0.4T
    8.000x0,4= 3.200t explosives. More than 60.000 tons of bombs were dropped on Berlin. So if you are a slut, then sleep well.
    1. +4
      8 February 2022 20: 59
      Anatoly will be hit with axes on specific important objects and not on Moscow, it is targeted more seriously
    2. -2
      8 February 2022 22: 34
      I'm at least a castle, but in my city
      will peel and very strongly.
    3. +1
      9 February 2022 13: 57
      Not tomahawks will fly inside the Moscow Ring Road !!!!
      Tomahawks will strike current at small targets, at single targets - such as ZKP, PU SAM, etc.
      A few other chumadans will be sent inside the Moscow Ring Road - tridents, minetmen ..
  8. AML
    +3
    8 February 2022 21: 16
    Quote: Ryaruav
    Anatoly will be hit with axes on specific important objects and not on Moscow, it is targeted more seriously

    Well, there are really not 8000 tomahawks. If half of them are found, then it’s already good. In addition, there is nowhere to ship them stupidly, because then the fleet will be left without anti-aircraft missiles. We will survive the hit of all missiles, but will they survive the loss of the entire fleet.
    1. 0
      9 February 2022 14: 03
      And why should they lose the fleet ??
      Do we have organized continuous tracking of all nuclear submarines and cruise missiles and EMs with cruise missiles ???
  9. -2
    8 February 2022 21: 25
    Of particular concern to the Russian leadership is the fundamental possibility of deploying Tomahawks on ground platforms and facilities. This method of basing gives the missiles certain combat and tactical advantages.

    strange statement. Placing Tomahawks on stationary objects has no advantages; rather, on the contrary, this is a major drawback.
    The main source of such a threat at the moment is the Aegis Ashore missile system.

    Complete nonsense. Aegis Ashore - unprotected launchers, the location of which is known, the number of cells is strictly limited, there is no point in placing Tomahawks in them. Especially considering that they are not nuclear. In order to damage the airfield in Syria, a volley from two ships was needed. What is the point of using a couple of dozen missiles, given the size and number of objects in Russia?
    the Mk 41 installation can receive missiles of other types, incl. percussion "Tomahawk"

    It can take it, but it can't let it go.
    the software of the complex can be supplemented with modules for its use

    Not software, but a preparation and launch control system. There is nothing more stupid than putting it on ground installations.
    However, the author himself is well aware of this.
    However, the combat value of Aegs Ashore in strike configuration is not too great. So, the ammunition of the complex is limited. It is hardly necessary to reduce the already small number of anti-missiles by deploying cruise missiles instead. In addition, such a use of the complex actually renders its complex and expensive radar part useless - target designation for the Tomahawk will be issued by other means. Finally, an immovable object presents a fairly easy target for a retaliatory or preemptive strike.

    So why was the entire first part of the article written, if at the end of it the author himself agrees that this is nonsense? Why not just write briefly - arming stationary ground installations with Tomahawks is complete nonsense, therefore we exclude them from consideration?
    Brevity is the sister of talent, but mother-in-law of the fee?
  10. +1
    8 February 2022 21: 45
    The specificity of cruise missiles (and tomahawks in particular) is that they approach the target at ultra-low altitudes, using terrain folds. Well, they are guided by the maps of the area (stitched in the pre-flight task), checking the correctness of the jps course at the control points. The route usually runs along visible landmarks (roads, railways, rivers, etc.) by the way, flying along the riverbed is the most practical in terms of the fact that the riverbed is usually a fold in the terrain (here it’s easier to navigate, and stealth is higher) . There are a great many methods of dealing with cruise missiles (and tomahawks in particular).
    And as the experience of the same Syria showed, layered air defense, with advance information, is capable of leveling a rather significant volley.
    Bottom line: axes still pose a certain threat even to developed countries. But this is not at all what they were 20-30 years ago.
    1. -3
      9 February 2022 00: 15
      flying along the riverbed is the most practical in terms of the fact that the riverbed is usually a fold in the terrain

      not along, but across
      you yourself write
      checking the correctness of the course at checkpoints

      it is at these control points that the terrain is checked and the flight is corrected, if necessary. But the correction by satellites occurs constantly, as well as inertial guidance.
  11. -7
    8 February 2022 22: 05
    and even if such a launch is detected, it is possible to evaporate the Mediterranean Sea or where they shot from, if Turkey is lying, it wants axes to fly through its territory towards the Russian Federation and in the return line, and a hundred more why it will only decide on this, or if the Russian Federation is in a state of civil war, and in a state of civil war, there is no guarantee that some crazy general will not hit you first (James Bond will not help).
  12. -10
    8 February 2022 22: 27
    What prevents Russia from compensating for the gap in cruise missiles by installing tactical nuclear warheads on S-200, S-300, S-400 missiles
    1. +4
      9 February 2022 00: 20
      Probably your ignorance...
      1. -3
        9 February 2022 16: 28
        Or someone's chaff in the head in place of brains...
        1. +1
          9 February 2022 18: 54
          Are you self-critical laughing
          1. -1
            11 February 2022 11: 46
            So this is about your "attic with cobwebs"
            1. 0
              11 February 2022 18: 12
              And you have an attic instead of a head, and even with cobwebs? No wonder you suggest:
              What prevents Russia from compensating for the gap in cruise missiles by installing tactical nuclear warheads on S-200, S-300, S-400 missiles

              Funny cheers - I haven’t heard anything about contracts, etc., but technically, with people like you, everything is done at the click of a finger. So, I'm waiting for the encore, I got the popcorn laughing
    2. -3
      9 February 2022 15: 57
      Russia has no less cruise missiles than the United States, the same X 555 X 101 X 102 and Caliber and modification for the OTRK Iskander missile R 500
  13. -4
    9 February 2022 00: 39
    It is high time to realize that the human, economic, scientific, military and technological potential of the West is many times greater than the Russian one. One can only hope for the threat of mutual destruction in a retaliatory strike. And so what, and the axes do not carry a threat to disrupt this retaliatory strike. Neither by the time of delivery of ammunition nor by the depth of penetration. And there is absolutely no need to worry that without nuclear weapons, Russia has no chance to fight back. It is necessary not to have the whole world as an enemy and at least take a little care of our own population, which is a hundred times more likely to die from causes within the country, and not from a NATO strike.
    1. AML
      +4
      9 February 2022 08: 47
      It's one thing to become an enemy for some act, it's another to be appointed by him. You can continue your thought and formulate what did the Russian Federation do that the West considers the Russian Federation an enemy?
      You can take the 90 years as a starting point, then we were 'friends' like water.

      For what the Russian Federation does not like the West, I can throw it without any tension at all.
      For 1 and 2 Chechen.
      For the increased drug trafficking from which 80 thousand citizens die every year,
      For Georgia, which was pumped up with weapons and said you.
      For Ukraine, which is now being made to enemies.

      The West cannot be peaceful, it has been robbing and killing all its life. All their wealth today is abundantly watered with blood.
      1. -4
        9 February 2022 12: 05
        If in your world drug trafficking goes from the West to Russia, and not vice versa, then of course it is difficult to argue.
        And the fact that they fought against Chechnya for the last 200 years without a break is also the West's fault. Or only in the last two wars.
        1. +1
          9 February 2022 16: 33
          And the fact that they fought against Chechnya for the last 200 years without a break is also the West's fault.

          Here it was immediately necessary to act by Western methods, either to destroy everyone in the British way, or to create an isolated reservation in the American way ....
          1. -1
            9 February 2022 16: 37
            About the reservation. Your mouth would drink honey. But we see exactly the opposite. A Russian cop or civilian aspires (and rightly so) to go to defeated Chechnya. And from there, people with crusts and legal trunks can roam all over Russia and do whatever they want. And that the West is to blame for this?
  14. -2
    9 February 2022 03: 07
    Lately I've been haunted by a thought (perhaps a delusional one). As for our possible military-technical response to the US neglect of our "ultimatum". Here on the site they already said that it was necessary to send several ships and submarines armed with Zircons to parade in neutral waters near the United States. My thought has gone far. I remembered Jules Verne's novel "The Floating Island" (I hope everyone has read it). So why not embody the idea of ​​a great science fiction writer in the form of "Rocket Island"? For simplicity, assemble it from a variety of fairly conventional sea vessels, such as tankers or bulk carriers. Moor them tightly to each other (no one canceled the fenders). If the calculations show that a rigid connection is better than a movable one, it is possible to connect the parts with a common truss over the deck. Several ships can be completely filled with foam, for general unsinkability. Combine all power plants with an electronic control system for centralized control - and the island is ready! Stuff it with self-defense systems - anti-aircraft and anti-torpedo, so that it becomes practically invulnerable. And, of course, a complete set - Poplars, Caliber, Zircons, everything we have. And we start sailing all this along the Atlantic and Pacific coasts of the United States (that is, better than 2 pieces), or even stand in one place. And tease "partners".
    Well, what if we don't have such friends in America as the USA has in Europe?
    1. +3
      9 February 2022 11: 22
      Yeah ... there is, besides polystyrene, a substance that does not sink .... fellow
      uh ... uh .. and at the first hurricane, of which there are in bulk in the tropics, what to do with such an "island" ??? request
      1. 0
        9 February 2022 18: 49
        Moor to Cuba and stay there
  15. +3
    9 February 2022 16: 29
    You can giggle for a long time at low-speed "Axes", but these weapons were and remain very effective. And it's not easy to fight him.
    Ground-based radars, even with super duper AFAR and meter-range radars, alas, do not have sufficient efficiency to detect such low-flying targets with small EPR as Tomahawks in time and the only effective means of detecting these missiles were and are air-based radars (DRLOiU, radars of aircraft such as MIG31 and etc.,), capable of qualitatively selecting such targets against the background of the earth / water surface and ensuring the guidance of active weapons on them.
    Hopes that modern electronic warfare systems (which are "our all") will be able to neutralize this threat so far are nothing more than hopes, because. Tomahawks are equipped with navigation and guidance systems independent of external influences. In addition, the latest versions of Tomahawks can also be equipped with passive homing systems, for emitting radar systems, communications, etc. So with a massive raid of these Axes, the chances of intercepting all or at least most of them will be small.
  16. +2
    9 February 2022 17: 19
    The article is called "The Missile Threat and Responses to It" they outlined the threat - they described the carriers and how many missiles each can launch. What are the answers to her? "Do not be afraid?" Realistically, will our air defense be able to reflect from one direction several hundred, and possibly thousands of cruise missiles emerging from behind the radio horizon? Where is the assessment of the detection range, the possibility of intercepting low-altitude targets, and finally, a numerical comparison of the possible number of "axes" fired from one direction and the number of fighters, ZSU air defense systems with an analysis, for example, of the range of destruction and the number of simultaneously tracked / fired targets.
  17. 0
    April 10 2022 22: 47
    I think the "threatened period" will still take place, And our people will still decide to strike first. Because our air defense, as Ukrainian experience shows, will not survive a massive first strike. Something will remain, but the system will collapse. Old Points-U - and then they are caught with great difficulty.
  18. AML
    0
    April 13 2022 14: 16
    Quote: Evgesha

    And the air defense has such a BC that would bring down, for example, from the southwestern direction from the Black and Mediterranean Seas, a volley of tomahawks, which will fire about 5 ticonderogs and a couple of nuclear submarines ???? And this is if we get 5 * 122 + 2 * 154 = 918 missiles in one salvo to the maximum !!!

    Will the trough withstand firing in one gulp? Or do you think that they shoot one by one for charitable purposes?