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"I'll shoot you around the corner!"

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"I'll shoot you around the corner!"
Photo 1. "Corner shot" in action. Now take a closer look: here is a video camera, here is a Glock with a 30-round magazine. Nice idea of ​​what to say, but nothing out of the ordinary. Photo National Interest


"... now in the street, now in the squares, and at every corner she builds coves."
Proverbs of Solomon 7:12

Weapon "IF" ("if"). What is good about VO? Among other things, the fact that you, as an author, readers constantly throw up ideas and, in addition, send interesting photos. For example, not so long ago, one of our regular readers from Israel sent me a photo of an interesting weapon called the “corner shot”. It is intended for shooting from around the corner during special operations and is used by the special forces of the Israeli army. However, looking closer, I saw that, despite the imposing appearance, this is in fact not a weapon, but only ... "a prefix to it." Stock, trigger and swivel mount for a Glock pistol. Well, it is clear that a video camera is installed on it so that you can aim "around the corner." But all innovations end there. I thought - is it really impossible to come up with something just as convenient for shooting from around the corner, but incomparably more powerful than “just a Glock”, and even with a store with a much larger capacity? I remembered that making a device to shoot from trenches without exposing yourself to enemy bullets was invented back in the years of the First World War. Something like a rifle butt with a mount for a rifle and, in addition, a periscope to aim. They leaned "this" on the parapet and ... shot. Moreover, the rifle could even be reloaded using a lever device.

During the Second World War, rifles and machine guns with barrel attachments appeared. These nozzles also made it possible to shoot at an angle, that is, while in cover. They tried to put them on towers tanks, so that they could shoot back from the infantry, but due to the rapid wear of these nozzles and poor accuracy, they were soon abandoned.

Today, the actions of the police and special forces in urban areas have led to a revival of interest in weapons "for shooting around the corner." It’s not for you to fight in an open field, here corners are found at every turn and this is both very good and very bad at the same time.

Not so long ago, there was a message in the press that to solve the problem of "angled shooting" a tiny, moreover, armored computer was invented that can be installed on any weapon. A video camera combined with night vision is connected to it, which allows the shooter to operate with such a sight both day and night, and even in underground tunnels. The camera lens is adjusted in such a way that he could observe the area from around the corner, and would not be afraid of being hit by enemy bullets. In a word, our soldiers will now be able to shoot at terrorists, and they will not see them at the same time!


Photo 2. An Israeli system that allows soldiers to shoot around corners with a conventional army rifle. Photo MIGnews.com

In addition, thanks to wireless communication or Wi-Fi, this system can communicate ... with the unit commander, and he will be able to observe the actions of his soldiers from a distance and give them instructions. Another advantage of this system, by the way, developed specifically in Israel, is that it can detect flashes from enemy shots and record what is happening in its memory for later analysis! Well, the weight of this device is only 150 g.


Photo 3. Here they are - special forces soldiers with a "corner shot" weapon!


Photo 4. Even a 40-mm grenade launcher with a video camera and a monitor has been created, allowing you to both see and fire at targets around the corner

However, the firepower of all these "cornet shots" is not very great. Now, if at least one of the fighters in the photo had a submachine gun with a 50-round magazine ...

And... if "you want songs, I have them." In the photo below, you see just such a submachine gun chambered for the 6,8 mm caliber cartridges that are popular today. Rather, this is not the submachine gun itself, but only its mock-up, which, in principle, nothing prevents from creating even today and using it in the near future.


Photo 5. Model of a hypothetical submachine gun for firing from behind a corner. Left side view


Photo 6. The same submachine gun. Right view. Pay attention to the sleeve, which is located in front of the magazine receiver and the pistol grip!


Photo 7. In order to more confidently hold, the fighter aims this submachine gun at the target by the front handle, so a shield of 3 mm armor plate is installed in front of it, which protects the hand from possible enemy fire

This submachine gun is generally very simple, although not quite usual. The body is a metal or plastic pipe, cut in proportions of 20 and 80. A barrel with a chamber is fixed in the front part, a bolt, a trigger and a large-capacity magazine are in the back. They are interconnected using the simplest connecting rod-crank mechanism, which allows you to bend the front part 90 degrees in both directions. A latch built into their connection can lock them in any chosen position. On the layout, the barrel is short, pistol, only 100 mm long, but on a real submachine gun you can use barrels with a length of both 305 and 406 mm, respectively, taking them from already produced carbines or submachine guns.

Both parts are connected by a corrugated plastic tube to protect against dust and dirt, inside which there are two flexible steel strips that are tightly attached to the chamber, but in the back of the “pockets”, from which each can be pulled out along its own radius, forming a rigid horizontal “ corridor". This is where the shutter moves. At the same time, it also consists of two parts: the front, capable of bending left and right, and the back - straight.

The "Wriggling Gate" looks like a well-known children's toy snake and consists of T-shaped profiles - disks with a vertical slot in the middle and two vertical racks on both sides of it. A flexible metal strip passes through the slot, so the front of the shutter can easily bend left and right. The shutter mirror consists of two disks, and the front one can rotate 45 degrees. It has a striker head, two “legs” for holding the cartridge by the groove on the bottom of the sleeve, and an L-shaped extractor lever with a long arm located on top. The shutter is connected to two springs at the rear of the case, which are put on long rods. There is also a buffer spring in the back. The shutter is cocked by a handle, which remains stationary during firing.

Shooting is carried out from an open bolt, which is pre-cocked and held by a stopper. When the trigger is pressed, the bolt breaks off the stopper and moves forward, picks up the cartridge from the magazine with two vertically standing “legs” and moves with it to the chamber along a curved “corridor” of two plates that “show him the way”. Here, the shutter mirror with its protrusion falls into the figured groove, rotates 45 degrees, and its “legs” become in a horizontal position. The cartridge enters the chamber, the firing pin strikes the primer, fires, and the bolt moves back together with the cartridge case. When passing over the sleeve outlet, the L-shaped lever touches the ledge in the rear of the case and hits the empty sleeve, which is ejected into the sleeve outlet. Then the shutter reaches the end, and at the same time rotates so that its “legs” stand upright.


Photo 8. There is a video camera above the barrel, and on the right above the pistol grip there is a folding monitor screen on which the shooter sees everything that is around the corner. And not only sees. The reticle on the screen allows him to shoot. Well, in case of failure of the electronics, on the left in the ring earpieces there are ordinary mechanical sights


Photo 9. And this is how the “picture” looks on the monitor screen. It remains to pull the trigger and - bang, your opponent is deleted from the world of the living!


Photo 10. And this is how this weapon works! You stand around the corner, but you yourself see everything that happens behind it ...


Photo 11. And the goal you imagine, of course, is very small and almost invisible!


Photo 12. And having fixed the barrel with a latch, you can shoot not only around the corner, but also forward, as from the most ordinary submachine gun. And, on the contrary, having released it, you can shoot without changing the position of the submachine gun itself, but simply moving its barrel left and right. Like a hose for watering ... but not with water, but with lead! Convenient, isn't it?!


Photo 13. A man with such a weapon in his hands looks somewhat unusual, but few things were unusual for us before, and then it became so much a part of everyday practice that no one even notices yesterday's novelty


Photo 14. And, of course, to “build coves” around the corner for all kinds of illegal subjects with such weapons in their hands - if it is created, it’s just a pleasure!

In conclusion, I can say that this design does not claim absolutely anything. It's just an embodied thought. Well, that's how it came up ... There was an opportunity to do it ... And I did it! Although, of course, work on such weapons, so that they shoot for real, should be carried out by real specialists.

Will such a weapon ever be created, who knows?
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 6 February 2022 04: 50
    +4
    If you have Wi-Fi or Bluetooth on the video aiming system, why not use ordinary 3D glasses ... attach your smartphone to them and play partisan or special forces.
    The thing is generally convenient in terms of camouflage and remote control of weapons and not only small arms ... I will not give other ideas ... the topic is too sensitive ..
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 6 February 2022 06: 12
      +4
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The subject matter is too sensitive.

      Lech, you gave such a thing here that I didn’t understand a damn thing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 February 2022 06: 26
        +5
        The idea of ​​how to become a heaped "killer" with the help of improvised means!
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 6 February 2022 09: 34
          +3
          I'm afraid of crazy students who can read our advice and ideas and use them against our citizens.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 February 2022 10: 10
            +3
            And what new we, to someone, offer???
            Watch Hollywood fantasies or computer shooters and .... some people are blown away!
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 6 February 2022 23: 28
            +1
            Yes, students, schoolchildren have already begun to shoot their neighbors. request
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 6 February 2022 08: 05
        +3
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Lech, you gave such a thing here that I didn’t understand a damn thing

        And I... in shock! request
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 6 February 2022 08: 10
          +3
          Uh-huh... No words, only emotions... laughing
      3. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 6 February 2022 09: 44
        +2
        Well, remember how they killed an Iranian scientist ... with a remote weapon.
        With a little perverted fantasy, you can use what is available in our stores selling various gadgets and household goods.
        This topic is taboo... what not for wide coverage.
  2. vladcub
    vladcub 6 February 2022 06: 46
    +7
    V. Oh, look spectacular with your damn thing.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 6 February 2022 07: 02
      +6
      "effectively."
      "Stalker. Good day for a kill." laughing
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 6 February 2022 08: 12
        +2
        Is this Olegovich, or what?
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 6 February 2022 08: 27
          +4
          Hello! He is the best. bully
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 6 February 2022 12: 50
        +10
        Quote: Phil77
        "effectively."


        In the photo, the alleged killer, nicknamed "Historian". For many years, before the operatives received these photos, the investigation could not understand how the criminal managed to quietly eliminate the victim and hide from persecution ... laughing
        1. Charik
          Charik 6 February 2022 17: 23
          +2
          not a Historian, but rather a Plumber - there is a pipe with a corrugation in his hands
        2. kalibr
          6 February 2022 20: 33
          +5
          Bravo!!!! That's lovely.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 7 February 2022 03: 55
            +8
            Good night, Vyacheslav! smile
            That's what I have always respected you for, so it's for unbending optimism and innovative thinking with a sincere disregard for the intrigues of all spiteful critics. Keep it up! I like both your articles and your toys. good
            I’m again sitting on the “night duty” (I’ve been awake all day, I still need to sleep))), and now I decided to put the honored stalker Shpakovsky in a virtual zone, unfortunately, I couldn’t find a suitable angle because of which could shoot. Well, that's okay, the hardest thing was to find a girl with a gun in her hands and that she was wearing at least something. laughing Because we are family people and pornography does not suit us. wink
            And what happened - judge for yourself. drinks

            1. kalibr
              7 February 2022 06: 44
              +4
              You are the master! Although it is clear that the insert, but overall it looks great. Emblem you very successfully and skillfully placed!
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 7 February 2022 06: 48
                +1
                Vyacheslav, next time you place the figure in full height, then there will be more opportunities to play with the picture. Of course, I can attach other people's legs smile , but this is somehow not entirely respectful to the owner of everything else. drinks
            2. Wildcat
              Wildcat 7 February 2022 08: 54
              +4
              hi
              Well, if this is possible, then I will also publish part of the well-known canvas "Fans demand from the famous writer to continue the series of articles on the weapons of soldiers, passing him samples for illustrations." laughing This part is known among experts as "three admirers are asking: write an article about medieval copies of ancient weapons" winked
      3. Doctor Evil
        Doctor Evil 8 February 2022 10: 34
        0
        The verse just happened by itself.
        "I remember the city of Penzengrad
        In some year there.
        The wretched liberal is running,
        Cries on the go.
        The professor is dragging a curved arrow.
        Now he will join the battle.
        Hanging poster "Down with the State Department"!
        Down with mattresses!"
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 6 February 2022 08: 08
      +9
      There is something in this "crap" plumbing! what
      1. kalibr
        6 February 2022 08: 15
        +5
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        There is something in this "crap" plumbing!

        Of course. They are plastic pipes...
        1. soul
          soul 6 February 2022 08: 29
          +5
          It turned out an angle shot laughing laughing good
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 6 February 2022 08: 55
            +7
            Quote: alma
            It turned out an angle shot laughing laughing good

            He is a curmudgeon winked
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 6 February 2022 09: 14
              +5
              Quote: Terenin
              He is a curmudgeon

              To each in crooked hands along a crooked trunk! fellow
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 6 February 2022 23: 31
                +3
                Why, Volodya, then there will be a mass shooting of the street public! wassat
                1. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 7 February 2022 11: 51
                  +3
                  And we'll make a publicity stunt! Like ... Whoever buys 2 "products" will get a bulletproof vest at half price! ...
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 7 February 2022 13: 02
                    0
                    "Whoever takes a pack of tickets will get a water pump!" (With) good
              2. Gunfighter95
                Gunfighter95 7 February 2022 12: 42
                +3
                To each in crooked hands along a crooked trunk!

                Two negatives make an affirmative.
                Immediately all Krivorukov will become snipers. laughing

                Yours faithfully,
            2. kalibr
              6 February 2022 10: 42
              +4
              Quote: Terenin
              He is a curmudgeon

              An angle shot is better. The trunk is straight!
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 6 February 2022 10: 51
                +6
                Quote: kalibr
                Quote: Terenin
                He is a curmudgeon

                An angle shot is better. The trunk is straight!

                hi

                BUK - a tower installation with a curved barrel.
      2. Gunfighter95
        Gunfighter95 7 February 2022 12: 41
        +1
        There is something in this "crap" plumbing!


        A plumber's dream immediately comes to mind - STEN Mk II laughing

        Yours faithfully,
    3. kalibr
      6 February 2022 08: 13
      +5
      Quote: vladcub
      V. Oh, look spectacular with your damn thing.

      Svyatoslav! And I have a pretty monotonous and measured life. Therefore, from time to time I want something new. Work with your hands, think about something unusual. In the summer, I can even work in the country. What about in winter? Skiing? Boring. So ... and you will work with your hands, and you can write about it. And a photo as a keepsake for future great-grandchildren-ha-ha!
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 6 February 2022 09: 57
        +5
        "Boring."
        *-Eh! Shouldn't I aim to create a salvo fire system next winter? *
        laughing laughing laughing
        1. kalibr
          6 February 2022 10: 20
          +2
          Quote: Phil77
          Eh! Shouldn't I aim to create a volley fire system next winter? *

          Yes, and the current version, Sergey! The design is as follows: a dorsal satchel, it has 6-8 pipes in a package. Inside is a rocket (you can buy engines!) With drop-down wings, a video camera and a control unit. One is enough, the rest are dummies. We launch, high in the sky, the wings open and the "thing" as a glider makes a flight and ... swoops down on the target. You can not put a warhead! Do it - write about it EVERYWHERE. Be an icon!
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 6 February 2022 23: 32
          +3
          Throw you this thing - salt. laughing
          1. Pane Kohanku
            Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 09: 15
            +2
            salt.

            Salt - like mushrooms or like cucumbers? laughing Below I gave you a hint of another invention - extremely useful for you ... wink
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 7 February 2022 10: 50
              +2
              Salt - like mushrooms or like cucumbers?

              A slip of the pen - I'm trying to prevent Seryoga from being imprisoned for excessive zeal in the production of a pocket "Grad". laughing
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 10: 57
                +2
                pocket "Grad".

                "Grad" is 19th century, steampunk and airships. stop Seryoga will immediately make "Smerch". laughing
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 7 February 2022 11: 08
                  +4
                  Well, then just posodyut. crying
        3. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 09: 07
          +4
          -Eh! Shouldn't I aim to create a volley fire system next winter?

          Sergey, I have a vague feeling that after this:
          The design is as follows: a dorsal satchel, it has 6-8 pipes in a package.


          - Vyacheslav our Olegovich will also invent a jetpack! yes
          And it will soar over Penza... like Bond... James Bond... bully
          Conveniently! good If you want - to go fishing, if you want - to the dacha ... (I’ll add for the Sea Cat: if you want - and flew to pleasant women!) wink Carlson's business lives and develops! laughing drinks
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 7 February 2022 09: 14
            +3
            And what? And soar. Give time. Next winter. He himself admitted that winter is boring! bully
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 09: 33
              +5
              And what? And soar. Give time. Next winter. He himself admitted that winter is boring!

              In 1982, a certain Larry Walters took off in a chair with helium-filled weather balloons tied to it. During the flight (at an altitude of 4800 m) he skidded into the air corridor, and he almost paralyzed the work of the Los Angeles airport.
              When he was finally landed, and the police asked a rhetorical question: "Larry, what the hell did you actually do?", already a little departed from what he experienced, Larry proudly answered: "A man cannot sit idle!" wassat
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 7 February 2022 09: 42
                +3
                I could not. Sinful, I'm terrified of heights. bully
            2. Catfish
              Catfish 7 February 2022 10: 54
              +3
              (for the Sea Cat I will add

              And what? And soar. Give it time.


              Yes, fuck you, both womanizers themselves are unfinished, only about this and the bazaar, they found a scapegoat here. fool
              1. Pane Kohanku
                Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 10: 59
                +3
                both themselves are unfinished womanizers

                I will ask! stop Serge and I are finished. soldier And you - so simply canonical, at least send it to the chamber of weights and measures, to sculpt the standard of a womanizer. tongue fellow
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 7 February 2022 11: 14
                  +4
                  Serge and I - completed


                  Both of you sit down. laughing

                  1. Pane Kohanku
                    Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 11: 16
                    +3
                    Both of you sit down.

                    Pip on your tongue! Three pips! fellow Because you said it twice to Sergei, and once to me. wassat Arithmetic, sir! laughing
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 7 February 2022 11: 18
                      +3
                      Because you said it twice to Sergey,


                      Because he invents RZSO (K), and you are only talking about women. laughing
                      1. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 11: 19
                        +3
                        Because he invents RZSO (K), and you are only talking about women.

                        The teacher was painfully good - in your face. laughing
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 11: 24
                        +2
                        Come on, necha, you understand, blame the mirror. yes
                      3. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 11: 26
                        +1
                        Come on, necha, you understand, blame the mirror.

                        I blame your portrait. laughing Right every day, I put it in front of me ... I think about women, and I blame you, I blame ... lol drinks
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 11: 45
                        +4
                        Well, okay, to hell with you - begged. laughing

                      5. Nikolaevich I
                        Nikolaevich I 7 February 2022 11: 55
                        +5
                        The topic of boobs is not disclosed! No.
                      6. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 11: 57
                        +6
                        The topic of boobs is not disclosed!

                        Who cares, but neat priests are very beautiful! POPs, not POPs. laughing
                      7. Wildcat
                        Wildcat 7 February 2022 16: 16
                        +6
                        hi
                        Well, finally, serious, well-illustrated dialogues have begun!
                      8. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 7 February 2022 16: 20
                        +4
                        Well, finally, serious, well-illustrated dialogues have begun!

                        And what an argument - wah! laughing Uncle Kostya will give it to everyone, to all sisters - by earrings, to all brothers - by balls. drinks
                      9. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 19: 12
                        +2
                        It's nice to meet a true connoisseur of a burning topic. smile drinks
                      10. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 12: 59
                        +4
                        Volodya, well, not all at once! laughing
                      11. Phil77
                        Phil77 7 February 2022 18: 25
                        +1
                        Angela Davis? laughing
                      12. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 19: 06
                        +1
                        How do you define it? laughing belay
                      13. Phil77
                        Phil77 7 February 2022 19: 10
                        +1
                        The hairstyle is familiar. fellow
                        True, Rudy Gullit had a similar one, but .... this is clearly not him. laughing
                      14. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 19: 14
                        +1
                        They did not serve together with Rudik.
                        "Who is this, why don't I know !?" (c) No.
                      15. Phil77
                        Phil77 7 February 2022 19: 22
                        +1
                        Well, he’s actually not Rudy, but Ruud. I distorted it a little. A very good football player, European champion in 1988, we played with the Netherlands in the final, played played, but lost. Then I played in Italy, finished playing / if I’m not mistaken /in USA.
                      16. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 19: 26
                        +1
                        Well, are you completely out of your mind?! wassat People here exhibit female beauty, and you posted some kind of unshaven mug, "with a jug snout in a kalash row." negative I could do with one text. stop
                      17. Phil77
                        Phil77 7 February 2022 19: 29
                        +1
                        Nuuu. Maybe the girls will drop in? In their free time from medical services? bully
                        Let them look at the footballer, at the Dutch.Surinamese origin.
                      18. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 February 2022 19: 49
                        +1
                        And okay, thank God I'm not a Chechen or a Negro, but the rest of the aunts will sort it out themselves, and we will rest. drinks
              2. Phil77
                Phil77 7 February 2022 18: 28
                +1
                Let's not go. For? You will get bored yourself. bully
                And we are caring and polite guys. Yes! And respectful. fellow
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 7 February 2022 19: 09
                  +1
                  ?You get bored yourself


                  That's right! wink

  3. Proton
    Proton 6 February 2022 07: 06
    +4
    As M. Zadornov said, "Our man would direct energy in the right direction!" wassat
  4. Gato
    Gato 6 February 2022 07: 08
    +11
    And also: a mine from a mortar flies along a steep parabolic trajectory. Therefore, if you put the mortar on its side, then you can safely shoot from around the corner. The same applies to grenade launchers - just turn the machine 90 degrees. And if you turn it 180, then the VOG can be used as an anti-aircraft fellow
    Do not thank!
    1. Gunfighter95
      Gunfighter95 7 February 2022 12: 50
      0
      if you put the mortar on its side, then you can safely shoot from around the corner.


      The statute clearly states:
      Do not lay the gun and mortar on its side !!! laughing tongue wassat

      Yours faithfully,
  5. vladcub
    vladcub 6 February 2022 07: 28
    +3
    Q. Oh, and how did old Luger offend you, since you are inventing a new cartridge? And what is the weight of your "miracle weapon". So I'm guessing 5 kilograms will be
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 08: 16
      +3
      Quote: vladcub
      So I'm guessing 5 kilograms will be

      Why so? Regular PP, slightly longer than usual. And why do I invent ... They already exist.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 6 February 2022 11: 09
        +1
        Don't say: the store is heavier than the standard one, the steel shield,
        aim
  6. Gato
    Gato 6 February 2022 07: 31
    +7

    In 1916, American inventor Albert Pratt patented a pistol helmet. The barrel and magazine of a self-loading pistol were located on top of the fighter's head, and the aiming shield in front of the face helped to aim the weapon. The design of the descent using a pneumatic system was unusual: by blowing into the tube, the owner of the helmet caused the pear to expand, which turned the lever and pulled the trigger. By the way, this amazing helmet could be used upside down for cooking.
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 08: 23
      +5
      And an interesting idea on a new level! Laser guidance system on the helmet and launcher - a tube for ammunition in 20 mm with a jet engine. Aim through glasses. Here's how to turn on the launch you need to think about.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 6 February 2022 09: 19
      +6
      Quote: Gato
      In 1916, American inventor Albert Pratt patented a pistol helmet.

      What's with the helmet!? When it's like that!
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 6 February 2022 12: 52
      +2
      "helmet - gun" cool thing. I just thought: it would be nice if someone prepares material on hidden "shooters": "yarn - pistol", "fountain pen-gun" and so on.
      PS. Once in the "Technology of Youth" I read. The siege of Smolensk, the Russian governor, in the city, was sent a shooting box: open the box and ... get a bullet from a pistol. SB neutralized her.
      Does anyone know the details of this story?
    4. Catfish
      Catfish 6 February 2022 23: 36
      +3
      upside down, this amazing helmet could be used for cooking.

      Not only, but also when getting rid of already digested. laughing
  7. Free wind
    Free wind 6 February 2022 07: 36
    +11
    Corrugated barrel, great idea! It can be used as a short barrel, or it can be stretched. to the size of a sniper. wassat
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 08: 19
      +4
      Quote: Free Wind
      Corrugated barrel, great idea!

      Not a trunk, Alexander! Well, what are you ... a corrugated casing at the bolt assembly, where it can bend. And the barrel itself is normal of course.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 6 February 2022 10: 34
        +4
        Well, here it is again. The flight of design thought crashed against a cruel reality. lol
      2. Yurahip
        Yurahip 6 February 2022 15: 03
        0
        All...
        Penza men, hove!
        Weapons plumber-exbtoinist Shpakovsky is waiting for you behind the garages. First, he will show you his miracle plumbing pipette curve, and then he will begin to undress!
        1. kalibr
          6 February 2022 15: 21
          +3
          Quote: Jurachip
          All...
          Penza men, hove!
          Weapons plumber-exbtoinist Shpakovsky is waiting for you behind the garages. First, he will show you his miracle plumbing pipette curve, and then he will begin to undress!

          You know, Yuri, my crooked pipette at least looks like a real weapon. And your flat "humor" is just like shit. At least children can play with my "weapon" with pleasure. Your humor is good for nothing, but a flat mind, yes, really reveals.
          1. Yurahip
            Yurahip 6 February 2022 15: 53
            -1
            Jupiter, you're angry, so you're wrong!
            1. kalibr
              6 February 2022 16: 04
              0
              Quote: Jurachip
              Jupiter, you're angry, so you're wrong!

              Not a single minute, Yuri! But you have to write something to make you write more. If I write what a wonderful humorist you are, this will not guarantee your answer. But what he wrote - should have given. And it did. And I'm ... not angry at anonymous people from VO. What for? In reality, they don't exist. Their notes have only a price... for the promotional effectiveness of the site. You might as well get angry at bad weather.
  8. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 6 February 2022 07: 57
    +17
    Some anonymous writer wrote about these systems on VO 10 years ago in a fairly detailed article "Corner Shot: special forces will shoot under a degree."
    The Israeli system will soon be celebrating its XNUMXth anniversary. The mechanics are basic. The whole trick is to set up a video camera that clearly displays a crosshair on the screen, showing exactly where the bullet of the same pistol inserted into the device will fly.
    It is produced in six modifications, is used in special forces of twelve countries and even appeared in the cinema.

    But it's all nonsense! Real crooked trunk for women. Here it is - the pinnacle of technical thought and the care of sexists about feminists. lol
  9. Tests
    Tests 6 February 2022 08: 53
    +2
    A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov), dear, looking at the photo, just remembered: "My charm ..." ... Russia is also on the list of countries that bought crooked trunks from Israel.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 6 February 2022 09: 09
      +6
      Quote: Tests
      .In the list of countries that bought crooked trunks in Israel, there is also Russia

      Why buy them when...





      wink
    2. kalibr
      6 February 2022 10: 38
      +2
      Evgeniy! In my novel "Emerald Palms, Golden Sand" a shooting disc is described, which is put on the chest under clothes, and the drive is a cable through the sleeve. Trunks are virtually non-existent. Just cylinders for bullets, and once you start shooting, you won’t stop. But at close range, it's deadly. And then it turned out that I was not the first to come up with it!
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 7 February 2022 08: 41
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        And then it turned out that I was not the first to come up with it!

        Aha! One, "Defender" - at the end of the 19th century; and the other - at the beginning of the 20th ... wink

        18 charges ... it won't seem enough!
        1. kalibr
          7 February 2022 12: 16
          +1
          No, I have them on the surface of the disk, and the disk is attached to the chest like a mirror.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 7 February 2022 12: 58
            +2
            It seems to be ... somewhere I met this! The "principle" seemed familiar! Alas, "at hand" was only this ...
            1. kalibr
              7 February 2022 18: 23
              +1
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              it just turned out...

              Yes something like that. Disk only. And trunks... short, so that it was not visible under clothes.
  10. Yurahip
    Yurahip 6 February 2022 09: 11
    +1
    Plumber Shpakovsky again went on the warpath!
    A..liluya!
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 6 February 2022 09: 17
    +1


    Is there a new chapter planned?
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 10: 22
      +1
      Yes, but not in this book. This is already history.
  12. sergo1914
    sergo1914 6 February 2022 09: 21
    +1
    I read the comments ... You all need to be treated. Preferably with electric shock.
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 10: 34
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      I read the comments ... You all need to be treated. Preferably with electric shock.

      Sergey, Sergey! You can't live with such hardened brains.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 6 February 2022 12: 25
        -1
        Quote: kalibr
        Quote: sergo1914
        I read the comments ... You all need to be treated. Preferably with electric shock.

        Sergey, Sergey! You can't live with such hardened brains.


        Why?
        1. kalibr
          6 February 2022 15: 22
          +2
          Quote: sergo1914
          Why?

          Boring!
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 6 February 2022 16: 53
            -1
            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: sergo1914
            Why?

            Boring!

            You are mistaken
            1. kalibr
              6 February 2022 20: 31
              +2
              Quote: sergo1914
              You are mistaken

              This is purely your opinion. Research has found that it doesn't.
  13. Tests
    Tests 6 February 2022 09: 23
    0
    Nikolaevich I (Vladimir), dear, for a single day I have not been engaged in the purchase of weapons abroad for the army, law enforcement agencies and special services of the USSR and the Russian Federation.
    I can only assume that they bought it for the same reason as Glock and Sako - an imported tool should be a little more convenient for the master than from a domestic manufacturer.
  14. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 6 February 2022 09: 37
    +7
    I once saw an old pistol with a curved (curvilinear, curved ...) barrel, where the barrel was "extended" right up to the end of the pistol grip! The pistol was loaded from the "treasury"; that is, from the end of the handle ... The pistol looked something like this ...


    Why not shoot around the corner with such a pistol? Equip the pistol with mirrors there ... PPP (periscopic sights) of the forties sample ... In principle, they could have bungled something similar in the 18-19 centuries ... after all, no electronics, video cameras, Wi-Fi! It is not in vain that they say: The new is the well-forgotten old! Or... : Don't reinvent the wheel! stop
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 6 February 2022 10: 06
      +3
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      I once saw an old pistol with a curved (curvilinear, curved ...) barrel, where the barrel was "extended" right up to the end of the pistol grip! The pistol was loaded from the "treasury"; that is, from the end of the handle ... The pistol looked something like this ...


      Why not shoot around the corner with such a pistol? Equip the pistol with mirrors there ... PPP (periscopic sights) of the forties sample ... In principle, they could have bungled something similar in the 18-19 centuries ... after all, no electronics, video cameras, Wi-Fi! It is not in vain that they say: The new is the well-forgotten old! Or... : Don't reinvent the wheel! stop

      The pistols are beautiful! good

      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Why not shoot around the corner with such a pistol?
      You can shoot from a crooked barrel, but to fight in the dynamics of the battle ... where every fraction of a second counts request
      Special operations, that's another matter. yes
  15. Bormanxnumx
    Bormanxnumx 6 February 2022 09: 50
    +1
    Does the use of a free shutter in a weapon chambered for 6.8mm Remington SPC bother anyone? wassat
    1. Maxim Davydov
      Maxim Davydov 6 February 2022 11: 36
      +1
      Yes, here the whole topic, that the article, that the comments, is embarrassing.
      1. kalibr
        6 February 2022 15: 24
        +1
        Quote: Maxim Davydov
        Yes, here the whole topic, that the article, that the comments, is embarrassing.

        And what confuses you, Maxim? Israelis can, but we can't? It's just an idea, nothing more. There is a person below who wrote "a cool device." Well, you look at it exactly the same way. But if it's really bad ... let's talk about what doesn't bother you. What's this?
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 6 February 2022 18: 30
          +5
          Quote: kalibr
          It's just an idea, nothing more.

          This is a pie in the sky.
          And here it is, a tit in the hand.
        2. Maxim Davydov
          Maxim Davydov 6 February 2022 21: 45
          +2
          You somehow took my comment too personally, dear. And he was about weapons, and not about the literary qualities of the article and comments; perhaps ill-formed.
          And weapons have not been released for a century and a half, if not more, and remain the lot of niches such as Israeli stray for a pistol and special forces or attempts to shoot back from a trench / tank. For the basic reasons in the form of a recoil curve and the need or possibility in 99% of situations to shoot in a normal way remain unchanged.
  16. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 6 February 2022 10: 05
    +1
    Cool device, but I don’t understand how it will work
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 10: 32
      +2
      Quote: Krasnodar
      how will it work

      Like a regular submachine gun. Only his shutter wriggles like your southern souvenir snake made of pieces of wood. And the extraction of cartridge cases is carried out up to the neck of the store, and not at its level.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 6 February 2022 10: 53
        +1
        And it’s not easier to make a bolt with a barrel on the front of the weapon, otherwise it’s somehow confusingly strong
        1. kalibr
          6 February 2022 11: 14
          +3
          Quote: Krasnodar
          And it’s not easier to make a bolt with a barrel on the front of the weapon, otherwise it’s somehow confusingly strong

          Easier! But this is a different layout. This one came to my mind!
  17. riwas
    riwas 6 February 2022 10: 10
    +10
    "I'll shoot you around the corner!"

    Russian warrant officer Alexander Golodyaev in 1995 presented the system he assembled "a lens (attached to a weapon) - a light cable - an eyepiece (attached to the shooter's head)". In this case, the weapon can be exposed both from the right and from the left corner, and from the trench. Tests carried out in 1996 at the test site gave successful results. So, when firing from long-barreled weapons at a distance of 100 m, out of 15 bullets fired, up to 7 hit the bullseye. Tests also made it possible to optimize the layout of the light guide system. It turned out that it is preferable to place the lens under the barrel - then the aiming line better coincides with the axis of the barrel bore.
    In 1997, the Research Institute of Special Equipment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation demonstrated at the Moscow Armory Salon "A drive for firing from behind shelters."
    In this design, the standard Kalashnikov was mounted on a tripod, with the ability to be remotely aimed using a lever. Aiming is carried out using a flexible light guide, the inlet of which is located on the line of sight - in the place where the shooter's eye is usually located - and the eyepiece is displayed in a safe place in the shelter.
    https://info.wikireading.ru/82182
    http://zonwar.ru/news5/news_964_Videopricel_PM.html?attempt=1
    And by the way, Israel was interested in Golodyaev's idea, but they made their own version at a more expensive, advanced level.

    The Belarusian company "BelOMO" has developed a PKP sight (collimator periscope sight), which allows firing from behind a corner. This was announced by Alexei Shkadarevich, director of the scientific and technical center (STC) "LEMT", which is part of the holding "BelOMO", reports ARMS-TASS. The PKP sighting system is installed on all types of Russian automatic weapons with a dovetail mount. Its design eliminates the use of complex electronic components in the sight, which significantly increases its survivability compared to foreign counterparts. When aiming, the control panel provides a single magnification, its weight does not exceed 950 g. It is powered by an "AA" battery.

    http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/weapons_in_the_world/pritsel_dlya_vedeniya_strelby_iz_za_ugla_v_usloviyakh_gorodskogo_boya_sozdan_v_belorussii/?sphrase_id=15664616
    1. Iskander
      Iskander 6 February 2022 14: 31
      +5
      it looked like this

      1. kalibr
        6 February 2022 15: 27
        +1
        Interesting, didn't know about that!
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 6 February 2022 23: 26
          +3
          Quote: kalibr
          Interesting, didn't know about that!
          Sorry for repeating about A. Golodyaev, but such an example is very suitable
          Just right for shooting from around the corner for special services.
          hi
  18. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 6 February 2022 10: 19
    +9
    "He made rifles for suckers, but for real boys - pipe blasters!"
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 10: 47
      +3
      Excellent publicity stunt!
  19. singless
    singless 6 February 2022 10: 37
    0
    against scrap there is no reception if there is no other scrap. crooked
  20. Tests
    Tests 6 February 2022 11: 41
    0
    kalibr (Vyacheslav), dear, I repent from dawn to dusk and from dusk to dawn, but, alas, I have not read your books. The shooting disk in the novel "Emerald Palms, Golden Sand" is a variation on the theme of a centrifugal disk patented in 1926 by N.M. Gorshkov? And the muddy story of obtaining copyright certificate No. 2831, in the development group, for a centrifugal machine gun by the first secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks of the BSSR P.K. Ponomarenko?
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 15: 31
      +2
      No, everything is easier. Just a metal disk, on it are tubes of barrels with sequential ignition. On belts you put on under clothes, a cable to a hand. They say to you: "Hands up!" You lift and... shoot. And the novel ... You type the name on the Web and it opens ...
  21. Iskander
    Iskander 6 February 2022 13: 31
    +3
    now they actually do a cornershot on a telescopic rod,


    https://www.israeldefense.co.il/en/node/48087
  22. Saladine
    Saladine 6 February 2022 17: 08
    +1
    Jolie in the feature film "Wanted" used an Israeli Corner Shot in one of the scenes.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 6 February 2022 18: 44
      +4
      [quote = Saladine] Jolie in the feature film "Wanted" used an Israeli Corner Shot in one of the scenes
  23. Saladine
    Saladine 6 February 2022 17: 10
    +4
    A lot of course developments were interesting at one time
    1. Charik
      Charik 6 February 2022 17: 32
      0
      interesting, but here they do it too - breathe to make it foggy and wipe
  24. Undecim
    Undecim 6 February 2022 18: 13
    +8
    Shooting is carried out from an open bolt, which is pre-cocked and held by a stopper.

    This "stopper", which holds the shutter, is called a sear.
    In general, forgive me generously, Vyacheslav Olegovich, but reading the description of your "shooters", you understand that the joke about beautiful children and what they do with their hands was not born from scratch.
    1. kalibr
      6 February 2022 20: 28
      0
      I already wrote to you that the covers of the American magazines "Popular Mechanics", "Popular Science", "Modern Mechanics", for the years 20-30-40 are generally one unscientific technical nonsense and ... nevertheless, it was they who determined the future of scientific and technical US development. This has been shown by a number of studies. And this also applies to the same "opera" ...
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 6 February 2022 20: 53
        +7
        unscientific technical nonsense
        cannot determine scientific and technological development. Draw. No matter how bright it is.
        Scientific and technological progress is a very complex process, as the classics once wrote - an objective, constantly acting pattern of development of material production. And this current regularity is based not on the crazy ideas of amateurs, but on a planned and systematic knowledge and development of the objective laws of reality.
        1. kalibr
          7 February 2022 06: 48
          +2
          Quote: Undecim
          And this current pattern is based not on the crazy ideas of amateurs,

          Of course! I do not approve of this. But... YOU CAN BE ATTRACTED TO THIS DIFFICULT WORK ONLY BY SHOWING THEM A BRIGHT AND ATTRACTIVE PICTURE. Understandable to their mind! Here is my automatic machine for children to understand. Israeli in the photo - no. Checked! He showed... And only then let them grow up and systematically and systematically learn and master the objective laws of reality.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 7 February 2022 07: 54
            +2
            But... YOU CAN BE ATTRACTED TO THIS DIFFICULT WORK ONLY BY SHOWING THEM A BRIGHT AND ATTRACTIVE PICTURE.

            I'm even afraid to imagine a "bright and enticing picture" that will attract future proctologists.
            1. kalibr
              7 February 2022 12: 19
              +1
              Quote: Undecim
              I'm even afraid to imagine a "bright and enticing picture" that will attract future proctologists.

              You can write interesting, bright and exciting about the profession of a doctor. Is James Herriot's job as a veterinarian badly described? But he always puts his hand in the cow ... Down the tail of the cow! And many other details. There is simply no talented promoter of rare medical professions, that's all.
              1. Undecim
                Undecim 7 February 2022 12: 35
                +2
                You are diverting the discussion, Vyacheslav Olegovich. You can write something, but you were talking about "bright, enticing pictures." And this is a slightly different kind of creative activity.
                1. kalibr
                  7 February 2022 18: 31
                  0
                  Quote: Undecim
                  And this is a slightly different kind of creative activity.

                  I already wrote. a master's thesis was defended at one of the US universities, where the importance of covers was proved. Successful... engineers, scientists were interviewed about... what pushed them. And very many answered - the covers of these magazines and even wrote which ones they remember in childhood. I also have an example. in 1997 my book Knights of the Middle Ages was published. The first such book at that time. It contained many errors and inaccuracies. But ... there was a boy who, right at the 1998 International Book Fair, said into the microphone - I live by it! What a strong impression she had on the child. Letters from children came to me sometimes at the rate of ten a day. And it is impossible to calculate how many of these children later became historians. And then they found both inaccuracies and errors. But then, then they were just curious. So here. It is interesting. Unusual. Nice. Attracts. It may be the basis for choosing a person's life path or simply give him pleasure. And he will read reference books with performance characteristics and books on strength of materials later.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 7 February 2022 18: 35
                    +1
                    Quote: kalibr
                    I also have an example. in 1997 my book Knights of the Middle Ages was published.

                    Uh-huh, only you forgot to add that you received a grant from Soros for this book.
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim 7 February 2022 18: 46
                      0
                      that they received a grant from Soros for this book.

                      Ну и что?
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 7 February 2022 19: 30
                        0
                        Quote: Undecim
                        that they received a grant from Soros for this book.

                        Ну и что?

                        Yes, nothing. So simple....
                    2. kalibr
                      7 February 2022 19: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Uh-huh, only you forgot to add that you received a grant from Soros for this book.

                      Only you forgot to add that YOU have a LEASTY HEAD, there is no memory, you exchanged it for a water bottle. Because this book was published by the PROVSESHENIE publishing house. State publishing house. Remember and knowing that you have a holey head, for the future, before writing, check on the Internet. The Soros grant was for the book KNIGHTS OF THE ORIENTAL, published in 2002 by the private publishing house Pomatur. By the way, it is available online for free. You can read it and make sure that there is nothing anti-Russian in it. So leave the tales about the bad Soros ... Moreover, the grant provided for lecturing on the written book at one of the universities of the Russian Federation. I chose Novosibirsk, where there are very strong historians of the East. And ... as you can see, none of them said anything derogatory about her!
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 7 February 2022 19: 28
                        0
                        Quote: kalibr
                        You can read it and make sure that there is nothing anti-Russian in it.

                        What else was missing, to read your opuses. laughing
                      2. kalibr
                        7 February 2022 19: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        What else was missing, read your opuses

                        Then do not write nonsense. First, the grandfather was a Polish general, now a grant for a book in Enlightenment. Do not write about what you do not fag a fig! You look stupid. I noticed that people no longer respond to your comments. Keep away. And they do it right. Don't touch...yes...
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 7 February 2022 19: 42
                        0
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Don't touch...yes..

                        This is what you are.
                      4. kalibr
                        7 February 2022 20: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        This is what you are.

                        And what else, Vladimir, you can’t even imagine. But unlike you, I do not suffer from memory.
                2. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 7 February 2022 20: 22
                  +1
                  It's a pointless argument in my opinion. It was easier to immediately suggest that Shpakovsky turn to Altshuller's theory.
                  1. Undecim
                    Undecim 7 February 2022 20: 54
                    +2
                    You can offer. But TRIZ also does not provide for solving inventive problems in the complete absence of relevant knowledge.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 7 February 2022 20: 58
                      +1
                      In my opinion, TRIZ, first of all, offers a non-systematic approach to the problem.
                      1. Undecim
                        Undecim 7 February 2022 21: 36
                        +1
                        In my case, just the opposite. TRIZ is a system in itself, designed to formalize the stage of searching for a solution to a problem.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 7 February 2022 22: 05
                        +1
                        It is truth too. "Kill the Dragon"...
  25. Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 6 February 2022 18: 19
    +2
    "I don't like being shot in the back,
    I am also against point-blank shots!" (c) Vysotsky
  26. Gorillych
    Gorillych 6 February 2022 21: 19
    +3
    In the late 90s, he was at the artillery weapons base in Brest (I think 3620 abv).
    They had in storage ten sets for the bunker caponiers with a curved barrel firing system. Secret, did not go into details.
  27. Wildcat
    Wildcat 7 February 2022 02: 08
    +6
    hi
    But there was a time. when plastic pipes, even corrugated pipes, were not available. And people managed as best they could: with periscopes, cables and real rifles ...