Renewal of the combat strength of the Pacific Fleet in 2021 and 2022

SSBN "Generalissimo Suvorov" - a new submarine for the Pacific Fleet

In recent years, the Ministry of Defense has paid great attention to the modernization of the Pacific fleet, first of all, the renewal of its combat strength. For it, new ships and submarines are being laid and built, and the existing pennants are being modernized, and the number of such orders is constantly growing. Last year it was once again possible to observe the success of these processes - and in the new year they will be continued.

Scuba update

In the past 2021, three submarines of different types were included in the Pacific Fleet at once. In addition, another one, adopted by the fleet earlier, began service. As a result, in terms of quantitative indicators, the year became perhaps the most successful in modern stories and made the most serious contribution to the combat capability of the fleet.

At the beginning of last year, the Volkhov diesel-electric submarine pr. 636.3, accepted into the Pacific Fleet in December 2020, arrived at the place of permanent deployment. In October 2021, a flag-raising ceremony was held on the next ship in the series, the Magadan. Thus, the Pacific Fleet has already received three diesel-electric submarines, project 636.3, i.e. half of the planned series.

"Marshal Shaposhnikov" on trials after modernization

In December, two nuclear submarines intended for the Pacific Fleet were accepted into the Navy at once. These are the strategic missile cruiser "Knyaz Oleg" pr. 955A and the multi-purpose boat "Novosibirsk" pr. 885A. In the near future, they will make the transition to their base in Vilyuchinsk and begin full-fledged service.

Surface forces

In the context of updating the surface fleet of warships, last year was not the most successful. The Pacific Fleet put into operation several new-built ships after modernization. At the same time, for various reasons, not a single act on the acceptance of a surface ship in 2021 was signed.

At the end of 2020, a new corvette, project 20385 Thundering, and another minesweeper, project 12700 Yakov Balyaev, intended for the Pacific Fleet, were accepted into the Navy. In the spring they made the transition to their Pacific bases and are now serving.

In April last year, the large anti-submarine ship "Marshal Shaposhnikov" pr. 1155 returned to the Pacific Fleet after repair and deep modernization. After replacing weapons and equipment, it received a number of new features and was reclassified into a frigate.

Minesweeper "Yakov Balyaev"

Plans for the future

Meanwhile, the construction of new buildings of all main classes continues. Some of these orders, in accordance with the established schedule, have already reached the stage of completion and factory testing. Thanks to this, in 2022 the Pacific Fleet will again be able to receive several new ships and submarines. At the same time, it is the submarine forces that are waiting for a noticeable and important update.

In the coming weeks or months, it is planned to launch the next diesel-electric submarine pr. 636.3 - "Ufa". By the end of the year, it will pass factory and state tests, after which it will be handed over to the customer. The deadline for delivery is December, and service at the assigned base will begin next year.

Work continues on SSBNs for the Pacific Fleet. Recently, the new cruiser Generalissimo Suvorov was brought out of the boathouse, which will be tested this year. If there are no difficulties, the submarine will be handed over this year or at the beginning of the next 2023. The next cruiser, project 955A, "Emperor Alexander III", also intended for the Pacific Fleet, will be launched by the end of the year.

Corvette "Sharp" project 20380 at the stage of completion and preparation for testing

The grouping of multi-purpose nuclear submarines will also be replenished. The new boat "Krasnoyarsk" is already preparing for testing, which is scheduled to be completed before the end of the year. After its delivery, the Pacific Fleet is waiting for a break - it will receive its next submarine, pr. 885M, only in a few years.

Another multi-purpose nuclear submarine will return from a major overhaul and deep modernization. The boat "Irkutsk" was built according to project 949A, and now it is being reworked according to the new "949AM". In the course of such an update, she receives new equipment and weapons that dramatically expand her capabilities.

The restructuring of the nuclear submarine "Belgorod" under a special project 09852 continues. It was built according to pr. 949A and was multi-purpose, and now it is becoming the carrier of Poseidon underwater vehicles. In December, it was reported that the delivery of this ship would take place in 2022, and it would be transferred to the Pacific Fleet.

Year of the ships

The construction of several new surface ships for the Pacific Fleet continues, and the first of them will be put into operation this year. So, last summer another corvette pr. 20380 - "Sharp" was launched. Now he is undergoing factory tests and other events. It is planned to transfer it to the fleet in the spring, and almost immediately after that it will begin service.

Nuclear submarine "Irkutsk" before the repair

The second minesweeper project 12700 for the Pacific Fleet is completing tests. "Pyotr Ilyichev" was launched in April last year, and will soon be accepted by the customer. In November, the next ship of the series, Anatoly Shlemov, was launched. The construction of the minesweeper Lev Chernavin continues. In the absence of difficulties at the stages of construction and testing, already this year the flag of the Navy will be raised on three ships. At the same time, Ilyichev and Helmets, planned for delivery in the coming months, can reach their duty station by the end of the year.

Also this year will continue the construction of new ships. In the near future, the launch of the frigate pr. 22350 "Admiral Isakov" is expected. Also, the construction of a large landing ship pr. 11711 "Vladimir Andreev" is underway. Both of these pennants can be accepted into the fleet next year.

In parallel, the modernization of available ships temporarily withdrawn from service will continue. However, the first of them, having received new opportunities, will return to service only in the distant future - by the middle of the decade.

The first corvettes pr. 20380 from the Pacific Fleet

Change for the better

It should be recalled that in the past the Pacific Fleet faced serious problems in terms of modernization and renewal of the combat strength. Due to objective limitations and problems, the Navy could not build the required ships for this association, not to mention sufficient quantities and the desired pace. However, in the future, the situation began to change for the better.

Real measures to renew the ship composition of the Pacific Fleet have been taken since the end of the 2013s. Then the first ships and submarines of new projects were laid, the construction of which took several years. The Pacific Fleet received its first SSBN of a new type in XNUMX, and soon it was followed by surface ships, boats and submarines of various projects.

In the future, the pace of construction and delivery of new pennants gradually increased, and now the Pacific Fleet annually receives several combat units. However, it is easy to see that such renewal of the fleet is still limited in scope and pace. First of all, this is reflected in the supply of surface ships. They enter the Pacific Fleet irregularly and in single copies; in addition, there is a lack of first-rank pennants.

However, the situation continues to change for the better. Shipbuilders are systematically building new warships and submarines, gradually covering the needs of the Pacific Fleet. At the same time, other operational-strategic formations are also being developed. As a result, the general condition of the combat personnel of the Navy is improving both quantitatively and qualitatively.

Comments

[xomaNN]

These paces are encouraging. I'm already tired of the "weeping of Yaroslavl gentlemen of the all-propalshchikov". And here people are reviving the Pacific Fleet with their own deeds

[Barberry25]

and soon Karakurts for the Pacific Fleet will go into series, although it would be necessary to launch a light corvette / watchdog based on Karakurt

[bk0010]

Quote: Barberry25

it would be necessary to launch a light corvette / watchdog based on Karakurt

No need: it is too small for a corvette.

[Barberry25]

based on Karakurt, but not in its size, but if we take the size, then I propose to increase the size to 1300-1500 tons of displacement, more than enough

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Barberry25

based on Karakurt, but not in its size, but if we take the size, then I propose to increase the size to 1300-1500 tons of displacement, more than enough

Will not work. We have already designed a new mass-produced MPK to replace the Albatross. As a result, the GAS and the helicopter required a displacement of at least 1700 tons.
Taking into account the current conditions, we again come to the KOR OVR based on the "Guardian".

[Barberry25]

as I wrote earlier, this is if again we take into account only the Wishlist of the Moremans, but we need to start from real possibilities. 1) we don’t need a helicopter for a guard from the word in general, a maximum platform for a helicopter-type UAV or for replenishing a helicopter, 2) hydroacoustics for 1 tons can be installed without problems, 300) we put shell and pine in the role of air defense and Kolomna diesel engines in the role of power , they will be built after entering the series, the fleet will receive 3-5 ships per year with autonomy per month and range. at 6 miles

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Barberry25

1) we don’t need a helicopter for a guard from the word in general, a maximum platform for a helicopter-type UAV or for replenishing a helicopter

And we get project 11661E.
Unless the anti-ship missiles can be thrown away. But with TA it is not clear: either to leave the near zone and self-defense behind them (the rest is the task of the helicopter), or to give them the opportunity to work in the far zone too. In the first case, you need a light 324 mm TA. In the second - 533 mm with "Waterfall". The third option is a light TA + 3S14 under the PLUR.

Quote: Barberry25

3) put the shell and pine in the role of air defense

Better is a purely rocket "Shell" and a couple of "blowtorches" AK-630M. The current "Pantsir-M" is a complex of the last frontier of the air defense system for finishing off what passed through the previous frontiers, and not independent defense.

[Barberry25]

And we get project 11661E.

it is quite possible, for me personally it is not critical on the basis of what to build, the main thing is that it can be built in large quantities at 3-4 shipyards at the same time.

Unless the anti-ship missiles can be thrown away.

but I don’t agree here, UVP is needed, they are universal, like you need to install the Package, there is enough space to move 1 tons

Better is a purely rocket "Shell" and a couple of "blowtorches" AK-630M.

Why is it necessary to put Pantsir-M-it worked out in series and can work for 40 km + it can be adapted in the future for the use of Hermes / Klevok missiles, and this is up to 100 km range, Pine will receive missiles with seeker in the near future, that is, it is closing a zone of 10 km, besides this, I personally think that it is possible to put the ak-301 instead of the MTPU, just 2 pieces and undermining the shells will help close everything tightly - you get an inexpensive ship to work in the Baltic, Japanese, Black, Mediterranean seas, an analogue of the Chinese corvette 056, just instead of any IPC and RTOs, and their fleet needs at least 100 pieces

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Barberry25

but I don’t agree here, UVP is needed, they are universal

So I have nothing against the UVP. It's just that at 11661E there were "Uranas" with their own launchers, which are redundant for the KOR PLO.

Quote: Barberry25

how to install the package

Reloadable light 324-mm TA with torpedoes from "Paket".
You remember the mass and load at launch for the current "Packet" launcher.

Quote: Barberry25

Why is it necessary to put the Pantsir-M-on worked out in a series and can work for 40 km + it can be adapted in the future for the use of Hermes / Klevok missiles, and this is up to 100 km range

On small ships, "Pantsir-M" is primarily an air defense system. Therefore, the guns on it are harmful - their rigid connection with the missile part does not allow firing at distant targets when the ZRAK is busy firing missiles and bombs in the near zone.
The artillery unit is important for large ships, where Pantsir-M is primarily a ZAK with a range extended due to missiles, which is the last to operate.
So it’s better to put the “Arctic” version of the launcher on the KOR - a purely rocket one. And separate ZAK. Or self-defense air defense systems like RAM.

[Barberry25]

If there are UVPs, then Uraniums are not needed, and with Shell and Klevok / Hermes we will get a budget anti-ship missile to destroy all sorts of small pelvises up to 100 km range, according to RAM, I already said, the Sosna air defense system in a modernized form with 18 instead of 12 missiles and missiles should receive in the near future, a GOS for a ship with 1 300/1 500 tons of 76 mm guns, Pantsir, Pine, and even a couple of metal cutters + ak-301 will be very good in terms of air defense

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Barberry25

1) we don’t need a helicopter for a guard from the word in general, a maximum platform for a helicopter-type UAV or for replenishing a helicopter

And we get ave. 11661E.
Unless the anti-ship missiles can be thrown away. But with TA it is not clear: either to leave the near zone and self-defense behind them (the rest is the task of the helicopter), or to give them the opportunity to work in the far zone too. In the first case, you need a light 324 mm TA. In the second - 533 mm with "Waterfall". The third option is a light TA + 3S14 under the PLUR.

Quote: Barberry25

3) put the shell and pine in the role of air defense

Better is a purely rocket "Shell" and a couple of "blowtorches" AK-630M. The current "Pantsir-M" is a complex of the last frontier of the air defense system for finishing off what passed through the previous frontiers, and not independent defense.

I agree (!). and the closest to this, I see the proposed 11664, (proposed by the Zelenodolsk Design Bureau). With complexes: GAK "Zarya-2" (and BUGAS), on the power plant of four Kolomna "D-500" (8000 hp each), two of 8 UKKS cells (the filling of which may be different from the tasks set !!) , air defense systems as a maximum "Calm-1" (well, or "Pantsir-M", although worse). And without overly expensive "toys" (in electronics) .... No "Barriers" !!! Something from the series: bundles: "Positive" / "Monument" / "Monolith" (etc.) ...
Such a project in SOLO (!), will replace (and will not exceed the price, which is important for large-scale construction !!), TWO projects at once (!).
and disabled (BUT expensive) 20380, and "Karakurt" as RTOs ... !!!

[Barberry25]

and yes and no, the transition to a new project is again a waste of time, it’s better to finish the current corvettes, but the fact that we need a small ship with a displacement of up to 1 500 tons instead of RTOs and MPKs is a fact, the main thing here is a sane project for mass buildings with a clear limitation on performance characteristics and price, otherwise it will turn out as Klimov once suggested that both the gas turbine engine should be developed and the modernized air defense system should be developed, which will eventually lead to another long-term construction

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Barberry25

... we should already launch a light corvette / patrol based on Karakurt

no need (!).
instead of "Karakurt" and castrates 20380 ( without PLUR for PLO not suitable !!!), it is necessary on the basis of project 11664 proposed by Zelenodolsk (two by 8 UKKS !!), make a power plant faster from four engines of the D-500 family (by 8000 hp), and drive serially just such BMZ corvettes (!).
With GAS "Zarya-2" (and BUGAS), and UKKS for "Answer", i.e. the most balanced PLO corvette (!).
Such a project will displace (being functional for the implementation of the functions of the PLO / OVR), and will be able to carry out the functions of the same RTOs "Karakurt" .... (!) ...
This is what needs to be done instead of diversity and narrow focus in the large-scale construction of BMZ ships (PLO and OVR) ... !!!!

[xomaNN]

The fact that among the "minus followers" there are pretty much U-Maidanites on the site grazing for me is not news. And the Pacific Fleet, which side? Japan mother??

[arkadiyssk]

You really don’t understand that it’s stupid to be glad that instead of a decommissioned destroyer, a corvette comes to the fleet? What is ultimately "reborn"? Ocean fleet or management of port protection and protection of the mouth of the Amur?
If the AZSZ does not stumble, then by 2030 there will be 10 corvettes, 3 frigates and 3-4 old men 45 years of the Soviet era at the Pacific Fleet. It will be even weaker than Australia, and a certain bottom compared to other Asians. And we, as it were, will need to protect the Kuril Straits, Vladik, Kamchatka bases, and also keep the KUG in the ocean.
Seriously? Do you consider this a renaissance?
A normal person reading this article should keep a mournful face, and not have fun.

[abc_alex]

Quote: arkadiyssk

You really don’t understand that it’s stupid to be glad that instead of a decommissioned destroyer, a corvette comes to the fleet? What is ultimately "reborn"? Ocean fleet or management of port protection and protection of the mouth of the Amur?

And if you spend your energy not on shouting "the mustache is gone" but on comparison?
For example: the decommissioned destroyer 956 "Sarych" is compared with the commissioned frigate of project 22350.
Autonomy: 30 days both there and there.
Range: up to 4500 miles here and there.
RCC: 8 Mosquitoes vs. 16 Onyx\Zircons/Calibers
SAM: Hurricane (48 missiles) vs. Redoubt (32 missiles), I think it makes no sense to compare at all, Redoubt missiles outnumber Hurricane multiples.
Submarine weapons: 2 RBU 100 with a range of up to 1000 m against missiles of the Caliber complex with a range of up to 50 km (for the export version)
Torpedo weapons: 4 torpedoes against 650 mm against 8 Paket-NK launchers.

Perhaps you have access to the Real Truth, unknown to me, but at first glance, the replacement is equivalent. That the ship turned out to be smaller, so Sarych is a project of the 70s, and 22350 is 30 years younger.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: abc_alex

And if you spend your energy not on shouting "the mustache is gone" but on comparison?
For example: the decommissioned destroyer 956 "Sarych" is compared with the commissioned frigate of project 22350.

EM pr. 956: 17 units in 17 years (from the laying of the head to the commissioning of the last). The head building took 5 years to build.
FR pr. 22350: 2 units for 14 years. The head building took 12 years to build.
An equivalent replacement, what is there ...

But in parallel with Project 956, Project 1155 was also built - 12 units in 14 years.

[Barberry25]

Well, here are the key points in the development of competence and technological chains, and the disgusting attitude of the Moscow Region towards shipyards and the construction of ships in general

[abc_alex]

Quote: Alexey RA

EM pr. 956: 17 units in 17 years (from the laying of the head to the commissioning of the last). The head building took 5 years to build.

But am I talking about the shipbuilding of the USSR and the Russian Federation? I respond to a very clear phrase of the opponent:

it’s stupid to be glad that instead of a decommissioned destroyer, a corvette comes to the fleet

And I say that the ships are equivalent in terms of capabilities. Also it is not necessary to focus attention on a different name of a class.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: abc_alex

But am I talking about the shipbuilding of the USSR and the Russian Federation? I respond to a very clear phrase of the opponent:

it’s stupid to rejoice at the fact that instead of a decommissioned destroyer, the fleet comes corvette

And I say that the ships are equivalent in terms of capabilities.

Ahem ... actually, your opponent wrote that the decommissioned destroyer is being replaced with corvette. And for some reason you are comparing this decommissioned destroyer with frigate pr. 22350, the first of which will come to the Pacific Fleet only in two years, or even more (taking into account the state of affairs at the same Zvezda).

Try to compare the decommissioned EM pr. 956 with what actually replaced it with the Pacific Fleet - KOR pr. 20380 or 20385.

[abc_alex]

Quote: Alexey RA

Ahem ... actually, your opponent wrote that the decommissioned destroyer is being replaced by a corvette. And for some reason you are comparing this decommissioned destroyer with the frigate pr. 22350, the first of which will come to the Pacific Fleet only in two years, or even more (taking into account the state of affairs on the same Zvezda).

Damn ... Shame on me and all-round condemnation. I read a book - I saw a fig. I apologize. arkadiyssk.

[arkadiyssk]

No one shouted - "everything is lost." I said that we have nothing to be happy about. Because: 22350 is not a full-fledged replacement for the Soyuz anti-submarine destroyers. 22350 is not an ocean ship at all. The missiles of the Redoubt air defense system are no better than the Bukovsky missiles of the Hurricane (better but not at times as you dream) - just missiles for firing at targets within the radio horizon. There will only be 3 pots by 2030 - only three if you haven't figured it out. straightaway.
So I'm sure 3 Gorshkov is by no means the backbone of the Ocean Fleet of the Pacific Fleet.

[abc_alex]

Quote: arkadiyssk

Because: 22350 is not a full-fledged replacement for the Soyuz anti-submarine destroyers. 22350 is not an ocean ship at all.

I brought you the data on autonomy and range. What does not allow the new ship to be as seaworthy as the old one? The name "frigate"? 22350 has the same 5-point weapon restriction. The frigate also has a pitching stabilizer. What does he lack for the "ocean zone"? Unless the leader...

The missiles of the Redoubt air defense system are no better than the Bukovsky Hurricane missiles (better but not at times as you dream)

Hurricane:
Range of damage: 1 — 25 km
Affected area at height: 25 m - 12 km

Redoubt depending on the missile:
The affected area in range: 10 - 150 km
Affected area at height: 5 m - 35 km

I may have something wrong with the calculator, but the range of the new air defense system is 6 times greater, the height of the defeat is 2,5 times.

Quote: arkadiyssk

just missiles for firing at targets within the radio horizon.

Hmm ... are there air defense systems capable of shooting down targets due to the radio horizon? What is it like? With third-party guidance or what?

Quote: arkadiyssk

There will only be 3 pots by 2030 - only three if you haven't figured it out. straightaway.

So you would write that the trouble is not in the parameters of the ship, but in the NUMBER of ships. Not in the range of the fleet, but in its small number. I wouldn't argue.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: abc_alex

And if you spend your energy not on shouting "the mustache is gone" but on comparison?

And the comparison is very simple. Project 956 was never considered a self-sufficient ship at all, and was originally intended for joint action with the BOD. Which had a very powerful HAK, but there is nothing like that at 22350. As a result, the Pacific Fleet will receive 3-4 very interesting boats, which, generally speaking, are universal and not bad, but which it is not clear how to use. To send it to perform strike functions in the sea-ocean, there are no aircraft for cover. It can be used in the BMZ, where they will cover their own, but there the main opponent of the submarine is - and the HAK of the ship is far from a masterpiece.
That is, the ships, it seems, will be somewhat, but they will not be an equivalent replacement for the BOD.

Quote: abc_alex

SAM: Hurricane (48 missiles) vs. Redoubt (32 missiles), I think it makes no sense to compare at all, Redoubt missiles outnumber Hurricane multiples.

I doubt it's multiple.

[abc_alex]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Project 956 was never considered a self-sufficient ship at all, and was originally intended for joint action with the BOD. Which had a very powerful HAK, but there is nothing like that at 22350. As a result, the Pacific Fleet will receive 3-4 very interesting boats, which, generally speaking, are universal and not bad, but which it is not clear how to use. To send it to perform strike functions in the sea-ocean, there are no aircraft for cover. It can be used in the BMZ, where they will cover their own, but there the main opponent of the submarine is - and the HAK of the ship is far from a masterpiece.

That is, this ship needs a couple from the PLO ship. I understand correctly? Or a ship of the same project, but with an improved GAK? But, as I understand it, there is nothing better for NK now in Russia... Or am I mistaken?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: abc_alex

That is, this ship needs a pair from the PLO ship. I understand correctly?

Not really. Simply put, a frigate is not a missile cruiser, it is always a compromise between something and something. And this compromise should be created for the specific needs of the fleet.
We have created a frigate to perform strike missions with decent air defense, but at the same time, PLO is not its strong point. To solve problems in a war with NATO or with one of its members, and taking into account the actual composition of our fleet, this is not the best solution.
And they don’t plan to build ships like BOD, yes, and there is no HAC for them

[S. Nikolaev]

What is ultimately "reborn"? ocean fleet or

This song on VO has become eternal, constant howls about past greatness and hundreds of thousands of VIs in the oceans. One would like to ask: and what, did all this help a lot under - and surface abundance to save your country? Then ask another simple question, but already to yourself: what prevents today the same Japanese fleet, about the power of which many experts here have already rubbed all the buttons on the numeric keypad, victoriously grab some islands from the Russian Federation in Tsushima style? Is it only about nuclear weapons, or maybe something else? What is holding back Japanese strategists to take advantage of the situation of our terribly deplorable state in the fleet, which is screamed about here, playing on emotions, many as miners, and not solve everything in one fell swoop? If the matter is in nuclear weapons, then what is the problem - this will not change in the future, if not, then we must be aware that the fleet is not only attack ships that are like the tip of an iceberg in everyone's mind, and about which are only spoken about, but the whole system, including BO, aviation, ground and space control systems, etc., not to mention new types of weapons. And it would be worth not forgetting about them - after all, no matter how many destroyers you build, our partners still rivet many times more with submarines and aircraft carriers to boot. But if you have hypersound, for example, then things change. Many, if not all. And the modernization of old BODs and unfortunate loaves makes sense. And there will be new ships, they will definitely be. Because nothing can stop it.
What is being reborn? The ability, including the fleet, to withstand any threats is being revived. Anyone.

[Flooding]

“Congratulations to all Russians on this glorious date! 202 years ago, on January 28, 1820, a Russian scientific expedition consisting of the Mirny and Vostok sloops discovered Antarctica. roughly defining its configuration.

As you know, this was the last great geographical discovery on our planet, and the Russians still managed to make it. Very few nations can boast of mapping entire continents. The Spaniards, led by Columbus, discovered America (although the descendants of the Vikings stubbornly dispute this priority), the Dutch - Australia, and we - Antarctica, and that's probably all.

read in vikond65.livejournal.com

[Grits]

When I had to work in the North (maintenance of nuclear submarines), often, wrapping myself up from a piercing wind, snowstorm or frost, my boss constantly grumbled and cursed:
“Plya, in the era of great geographical discoveries, normal countries and peoples discovered new continents, new warm countries and gorgeous beautiful warm islands. The Russians at that time opened .... North!!! One single time they sailed, finally, to the south, and then they discovered - damn, Antarctica !!! ”

[Flooding]

Quote: Gritsa

my boss constantly grumbled and cursed

man with humor!

[Grits]

Quote: Flood

man with humor!

What more. graduate of the Cherepovets School of Electronic Warfare

[The Dragon]

Also this year will continue the construction of new ships. In the near future, the launch of the frigate pr. 22350 "Admiral Isakov" is expected.

Isn't he going to the Northern Fleet? As far as I remember, the first four are 22350 (16 Calibers), the second four are somewhat larger in terms of displacement, the decision to send to the Pacific Fleet looks strange. All 4 of the same type would serve in the same fleet.

[Beregovic_1]

They are all the same type. The second series differs only in the presence of the third UKKS, squeezed into the same body. Probably the military-political situation requires a uniform saturation of the fleets with new ships. And the frigate in the Pacific Fleet in the subject will be like a leader for corvettes. As I heard, they have BIUS Sigma coupled and can form a single air defense circuit. From a frigate with a more powerful radar, target designation for corvette missiles can be issued.

[Dmitry Chelyabinsk]

Summarizing the ships of the main classes, in 2021 the Pacific Fleet actually (and not on a list) was replenished with two diesel submarines and one corvette. Plus, the frigate returned from repairs with modernization.

[Tests]

"At the beginning of last year, the Volkhov pr. 636.3 diesel-electric submarine, which was accepted into the Pacific Fleet in December 2020, arrived at its permanent base. In October 2021, a flag-raising ceremony took place on the next ship of the series, the Magadan. Thus Thus, the Pacific Fleet has already received three diesel-electric submarines, pr. 636.3, i.e. half of the planned series. and this - "At the end of 2020, the Navy adopted a new corvette, pr. 20385 Thundering, and another minesweeper, pr. service."...
Dear author! The Thundering corvette, Volkhov diesel-electric submarine and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky in August 2021 began the transition from the Baltic to the Pacific Fleet. The transition lasted 3 months. TShch "Yakov Balyaev", yes, he came to the place of service in Kamchatka in May 2021 ... The diesel-electric submarine "Magadan" became part of the Pacific Fleet and neither the Lord himself nor his chief of staff knows when he arrives at the place of service. The diesel-electric submarine "Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky" became part of the Pacific Fleet in November 2019 and, for almost 2 years, the shame of the submarine forces of the Baltic Fleet somehow closed, but for half a year in 2021, "Volkhov" helped ...
"The grouping of multi-purpose nuclear submarines will also be replenished." Grouping is 1 (one) nuclear submarine? The nuclear submarine of the Yasen-M pr. Novosibirsk was only officially included in the fleet in December 2021. Well, if it comes to the Pacific Fleet in April 2022 And in July it goes to the seas to do business .... When "Krasnoyarsk" goes out for testing at sea for the first time - no one knows .... And "Pike-B" at the Pacific Fleet is only one. "Samara", "Nerpa", K-331 - we are repairing, "Bratsk" - we will dispose of after almost 2 decades of repair ...
"At the same time, the development of other operational-strategic formations is being carried out. As a result, the general state of the combat strength of the Navy is improving, both in quantitative and qualitative terms." Dear author! How many new aircraft capable of detecting and destroying submarines entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? How many new aircraft capable of hitting ships at sea and ground targets entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? How many new helicopters capable of detecting and destroying submarines entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? And how many new airfields were built in 2020-2021? How many have been modernized and can receive aircraft of all types? How many new ships capable of detecting and destroying submarines entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? Maybe for the Marine Corps, something like "Dugong" or "Cerna" has come in the last 5 years? The Pacific Fleet, today, cannot solve most of its tasks, there are neither forces nor means ...

[vovochka081]

Everything is gone... We will all die.

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vovochka081 (vladimir)
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Everything is gone... We will all die.

What did you want to say? The man gave real data on the state of affairs. Do not you like it? Contact a psychiatrist

[vovochka081]

"It's half empty, what a nightmare, I'll die of thirst. Oh! The water is great." And this is about the same glass. And everyone will have 1000 one hundred percent arguments about their correctness.

[Beregovic_1]

To the above, I would like to add a strange situation with the basing of NK on Vladivostok. Anti-submarine corvettes designed to ensure the release of SSBNs into the ocean, like diesel-electric submarines, project 636 stick out in Vladik, and not in Vilyuchinsk or Sovetskaya Harbor. As a result, to ensure the deployment of strategists, the Kamchatka flotilla has one nuclear submarine (one Karl!), several minesweepers and RTOs. Well, in fairness, there is also anti-submarine aviation in Yelizovo. They say that a new berth is being built in Vilyuchinsk and the infrastructure is being updated to accommodate the fleet. And then the brigade of corvettes will be transferred there .... Time will tell

[Grits]

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How many new aircraft capable of detecting and destroying submarines entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? How many new aircraft capable of hitting ships at sea and ground targets entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? How many new helicopters capable of detecting and destroying submarines entered service with the Pacific Fleet in 2020-2021? And how many new airfields were built in 2020-2021? How much has been modernized and can receive aircraft of all types

You can almost forget about naval (anti-submarine) aviation as a class. The Tu-22 has not been there for a long time, and nothing from the sky threatens the aircraft carriers of the Pindo-stations. What remains in the form of old Il-38s near Nikolaevka is even ridiculous to call anti-submarine aviation at the present time. As well as all aviation along the TO coast, it is difficult to consider it combat-ready.

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Quote: Beregovyhok_1

To the above, I would like to add a strange situation with the basing of NK on Vladivostok. Anti-submarine corvettes designed to ensure the release of SSBNs into the ocean, like diesel-electric submarines, project 636 stick out in Vladik, and not in Vilyuchinsk or Sovetskaya Harbor. As a result, to ensure the deployment of strategists, the Kamchatka flotilla has one nuclear submarine (one Karl!), several minesweepers and RTOs.

I also wanted to write about it ... At the Pacific Fleet and in Soviet times there was an ass with basing places, and I think it has only gotten worse since then. Which was destroyed. The 33rd berth in Vladik is suitable only for keeping admiral boats there at the headquarters of the Pacific Fleet, and for meeting foreign ships with visits. This is not a place to base Russian warships.

[Gambit44]

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And if you spend your energy not on shouting "the mustache is gone" but on comparison?
For example: the decommissioned destroyer 956 "Sarych" is compared with the commissioned frigate of project 22350.
Autonomy: 30 days both there and there.
Range: up to 4500 miles here and there.
RCC: 8 Mosquitoes vs. 16 Onyx\Zircons/Calibers
SAM: Hurricane (48 missiles) vs. Redoubt (32 missiles), I think it makes no sense to compare at all, Redoubt missiles outnumber Hurricane multiples.
Submarine weapons: 2 RBU 100 with a range of up to 1000 m against missiles of the Caliber complex with a range of up to 50 km (for the export version)
Torpedo weapons: 4 torpedoes against 650 mm against 8 Paket-NK launchers.

Perhaps you have access to the Real Truth, unknown to me, but at first glance, the replacement is equivalent. That the ship turned out to be smaller, so Sarych is a project of the 70s, and 22350 is 30 years younger.

Pay attention - this is another "specialist" who has never lifted anything heavier than his penis in his life, i.e. I didn’t do shit and at the same time I’m always dissatisfied with everything. And exactly the same specialists liked him, and here, by the way, such specialists as dirt, under each article))

[tone]

Why is everyone sure that KTOF will replenish 22350? Not a single one with a domestic engine has come into operation yet. The deuce walks on Khokhlatsky. We believe in Saturn's promises for 8 years. And the northern shipyard is the bottom, only capable of firing ships, without punishments and conclusions

[arkadiyssk]

Quote: abc_alex

Hmm ... are there air defense systems capable of shooting down targets due to the radio horizon? What is it like? With third-party guidance or what?

Of course have. Missiles of the SM-6 (or Aster) type, they have a communication channel with Link-16 tactical networks. The Americans shoot SM-6 for example at Hokkai target designation. Those. this is not even true - Hokkai can fire SM-6s from the nearest destroyer at detected targets.
Those. this is to the fact that the ship has the ability to perform air defense formations or not (i.e. just self-defense air defense or primitive escort functions)