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"New British Special Forces rifle can shoot down helicopters!"

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A shooter with a Hungarian Gepard GM6 Lynx rifle in a prone position. Photo: gm6lynx.com


“Someday,” he said, wiping his fingers on his thighs, “all fools will die, and living people will want to go forward; they will understand what the strength of the strong is - they will unite all their forces, and they will not have to fight with each other, there will be no soldiers, no watchmen, no walls. Wild beasts will be killed, and, as Hairy Muzzle predicted, goats will graze in all the meadows, and all fields will be sown with wheat, all people will become brothers, and no one will be fattening in the sun in idleness. This will be when all the fools die and when there are no more singers singing songs from the life of bees.
"The strength of the strong." Jack London

Weapon and firms. Not so long ago, the British newspaper "Daily Mail" reported that British special forces acquired 150 Gepard GM6 Lynx rifles, capable of shooting down planes, helicopters and armored vehicles with one shot. It is also reported that they will equip such units as SAS, SBS, and the Special Reconnaissance Regiment in Iraq and Syria is already using this rifle.


Shooter with a rifle during its tests. Photo: gm6lynx.com

Speaking of the Cheetah, one SWAT soldier likened this rifle to a howitzer for its strong “punch”, despite the fact that it weighs only 23 pounds (10,4 kg) and is 4 feet (1,2 m) long. ). In an interview with a British newspaper, he stated:

"A team equipped with such rifles can destroy half a dozen very expensive fighters or helicopters very quickly."


Standing with hands, you can also shoot from it, but it is unlikely that everyone can do it. But why shouldn't the special forces shoot ?! Photo: gm6lynx.com

It is noted that the bullet of this rifle caliber .50 (12.7 mm) has an initial velocity of 780 m / s (2559 ft / s) and easily penetrates the vehicle's armor, and then also explodes inside.


Shooting from the knee position. Photo: gm6lynx.com

The magazine of this semi-automatic rifle holds five rounds of .50 BMG or 12,7 × 108 mm Mk2 Russian-made rounds, which can be fired in just three seconds. The rifle is priced at £ 9000 ($ 12) with a range of 300 miles (1,25 km).


This is how it looks with the body in protective paint. Under the rifle is a box for storing and transporting it. Photo: gm6lynx.com

However, the most important thing in all this information message is that ... with all its developed military industry, if possible to buy "anti-material rifles" (as this class of small arms is called in England and the United States), the British military preferred to buy Gepard rifles in Hungary! That is, this is a Hungarian weapon designed and manufactured by the Hungarian company Sero International Ltd! And this is a great success for the Hungarian gunsmiths from this company!


Rifle in "black" design. Photo: gm6lynx.com

By the way, in addition to the helicopter, which it can hit at a distance of 1968-2625 meters, it is also designed to engage targets such as “light shelters and buildings, electronic structures and rocket launchers».

But how did the Hungarian designers manage to create such an effective weapon, and what are its "highlights"?

Well - it did not appear by chance, but was the result of almost three decades of development. The Hungarian military first requested a .50 caliber rifle around 1987, after which they were presented with a single-shot M1 rifle chambered for the Russian 12,7x108 mm cartridge. It was a precision weapon of great power, but it reloaded slowly, and shortly thereafter, the semi-automatic M2 was developed, followed by the semi-automatic M3 chambered for 14,5x114 mm (!). By the end of the 1990s, the company began producing an improved version of the M4 semi-automatic, and the M5 variant. And now, finally, the M6 ​​prototype appeared, representing an improved version of the M4 rifle.


This is how it looks when folded. In this form, it is very short! Photo: gm6lynx.com

The M6 ​​"Hiúz" (Lynx) (full name: Gepard Model 6 Lynx - "Cheetah model 6 Lynx") is a rifle with a long barrel travel and a rotating bolt, powered by a five-round magazine. It can use either 12,7mm Browning rounds (standard NATO cartridge), or 12,7mm "Russian" rounds with bolt and barrel replacements. It is designed in a bullpup configuration and can only be used with the right hand. It is currently used by the Hungarian Armed Forces, some military and security organizations, and for commercial / civilian purposes.


Rifle Gepard Model 6 Lynx. Left view, in the firing position. Photo: gm6lynx.com

TTX rifle SERO Gepard GM6 Lynx:
Empty weight: 10,5 kg
Combat weight: 13 kg
Full (combat) length: 1114 mm
Portable length (barrel retracted): 914 mm
Barrel length: 730 mm
Muzzle energy: 14,5 kJ
Bullet muzzle velocity: from 780 m / s
Firing range: 2000 m +
Design: bullpup
Magazine: straight, 5-round
Multicaliber: NATO cartridges 12,7x99 mm (.50 BMG), and ex-Soviet cartridges 12,7x108 mm
Operating principle: semiautomatic device


Rifle Gepard Model 6 Lynx. Right view. The shutter cover is open. The roller on the bolt is clearly visible, which rolls when the bolt moves back along the curly guide of the receiver. Reaching the end, the roller turns the bolt, and it disengages from the barrel. He immediately goes forward, while an empty cartridge case is removed from it and thrown out. After that, the deputy bolt goes forward, removes the cartridge from the store and sends it to the chamber. The rifle is ready for another shot! Photo: gm6lynx.com


Rifle, magazine and cartridges for it. Photo: gm6lynx.com

Field trials of the M6 ​​rifle began in 2007 and in the same year it was first introduced to the public. And in general, this is a completely unique weapon for its class. First of all, we note that this rifle is compact and lightweight for such a large-caliber sniper rifle. It uses the principle of automatic action with a barrel recoil with a long stroke (today it is very rare!), And the use of an effective muzzle brake significantly reduced the recoil that the shooter feels when firing from it. In addition, thanks to the effective method of damping the recoil, this rifle allows (with more or less convenience - understandably, but allows) aimed fire from hands without resorting to a bipod or some other support, although it naturally has a bipod. The barrel is locked by turning the bolt. At the end of the barrel there is a powerful single-chamber muzzle brake.


A rifle with a muzzle brake-silencer on the barrel. Photo: gm6lynx.com

The use of the principle of barrel recoil with its long stroke made it possible to use an advantageous opportunity in this rifle - to transport it by pushing the barrel into the butt until it stops. The barrel is moved to the "ready to fire" position using a button on the front of the barrel casing. In addition, if there is a loaded magazine and when the barrel is transferred from the traveling position to the combat position, the cartridge is automatically sent to the chamber, and it turns out that the rifle will be immediately ready to fire, as soon as its barrel moves forward from the butt!


Muzzle brake-silencer. Photo: gm6lynx.com


Muzzle brake. Photo: gm6lynx.com

Ammunition is fed from detachable plastic box magazines. Sights can be mounted on it both optical and mechanical, and it naturally has a Picatinny rail, integrated directly into its design. Also, for additional accessories and attachments, there are additional guide rails on the barrel cover. That is, if you wish, you can add weight to this rifle in full!


Bipod and its mount on the rifle. Photo: gm6lynx.com


The tactical grip is in the folded position and the Picattini rail located on the left. Photo: gm6lynx.com

The foldable bipod is attached to the front of the barrel shroud on the right side and has height-adjustable legs. The installation of a rubber butt plate also helps to reduce the recoil force. So, as already noted, you can even shoot from it with your hands, although it is a "pleasure" for physically strong people!


The shooter is waiting. The barrel is pushed into the butt. But as soon as the arrow is pressed on the barrel stop button, it will immediately move out of the butt and at the same time will be charged. So all he has to do is aim and pull the trigger! Photo: gm6lynx.com

A regular rifle bullet at a distance of 100 meters penetrates through a 25 cm concrete wall, and an armor-piercing one is even more effective: it penetrates a homogeneous steel armor 2 cm thick at a distance of 100 meters. An important advantage of this rifle is its multi-caliber capability. By replacing the barrel, bolt and magazine, the Lynx GM-6 rifle can be easily turned into a weapon capable of alternately firing both 12,7x99 (.50 BMG) and 12,7x108 cartridges.

In a word, the rifle from the Hungarian designers turned out: A - unusual in all respects, and not typical for sniper rifles in general, and for large-caliber rifles in particular; B - efficient, easy to carry, and relatively lightweight; and C - the principle of operation of its automation is the most simple. Needless to say: smart people in all respects did it! Well done!
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  1. YOUR
    YOUR 6 January 2022 03: 00
    .
    How people love bull dads.
    It is interesting in terms of its characteristics in the sense of not penetrating from a height of 15 cm, using in a clean room, not taking it out of the room in humid weather, showing it only from the window in the cold, only special cartridges, etc. Approaching its early brother L-85
    1. Timon2155
      Timon2155 6 January 2022 12: 03
      +18
      What nonsense! To shoot down, you still have to hit! And not just anywhere, but in the vulnerable spots of the helicopter. It seems that the eaters of this ad have really forgotten how to think with their heads.
      1. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx 6 January 2022 13: 13
        +14
        As for knocking down this speculation of journalists, it is planned to destroy planes and helicopters by special forces at airfields.
        1. Timon2155
          Timon2155 6 January 2022 13: 30
          +11
          What prevents destruction at airfields with the help of long-existing rifles?
          1. Alf
            Alf 6 January 2022 17: 47
            +7
            Quote: Timon2155
            What prevents destruction at airfields with the help of long-existing rifles?

            Desire to make money on a new type of weapon.
            1. Gunfighter95
              Gunfighter95 11 January 2022 13: 17
              +1
              Desire to make money on a new type of weapon.


              Yes, he is not so new.
              The Indians 13 years ago adopted it for service with their MTR - September 25, 2008.

              Yours faithfully,
      2. Emergency
        Emergency 6 January 2022 17: 11
        +2
        The brits love to carry rave delirium. Does the climate affect that?
        1. SASHA OLD
          SASHA OLD 13 January 2022 05: 18
          0
          Does the climate affect that?

          well so ... - islanders))
      3. venik
        venik 7 January 2022 00: 49
        0
        Quote: Timon2155
        What nonsense! To shoot down, you still have to hit! And not just anywhere, but in the vulnerable spots of the helicopter. It seems that the eaters of this ad have really forgotten how to think with their heads.

        =======
        good Bravo! I just wanted to write: ".....A team equipped with such rifles can destroy half a dozen very expensive fighters or helicopters very quickly..... ".... Or maybe NOT to destroy half a dozen" very expensive fighters or helicopters "..... Maybe at all do not destroy anything.... And a rifle (even a large-caliber one), as a means of air defense - never was highly effective weapon! request
      4. Bogatyrev
        Bogatyrev 12 January 2022 01: 24
        0
        Yes, I also thought at first that we were talking about some kind of intelligent weapon to destroy such points.
    2. km-21
      km-21 6 January 2022 17: 16
      +6
      Bullpup differs from the traditional layout only in ergonomics and dimensions.
      In terms of reliability, there is no difference.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 7 January 2022 12: 50
        +4
        It differs a lot. For example, by weight distribution of the weapon, with this arrangement, the barrel throws up, the inconvenience of loading the store, figure out how to reload from a prone position.
        The shot takes place near the ear, the mechanism is close to the shooter's head, the sound of the shot and the release of powder gases give the shooter more inconvenience than in the usual scheme.
        Of the advantages is the smaller length of the weapon with the same barrel length.
        1. km-21
          km-21 7 January 2022 17: 14
          +3
          Nobody disputes the differences between bullpup and the classics that you have listed. However, they all concern only ergonomics. Last time you talked about the unreliability of bullpup compared to the classic layout the same rifle... And I did not agree with this statement because, according to my concepts, the reliability of the mechanism in this case does not in any way depend on the layout solution. However, perhaps you meant something else, but I misunderstood your reasoning. In that case, I beg your pardon.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 8 January 2022 02: 52
            +3
            Well, yes, of course. And as an example, he cited the British rifle L85, aka SA80. Which was replaced by M4 during Desert Storm. You can also cite the French FA MAS F1.
            Samples of reliability and convenience.
    3. gromoboj
      gromoboj 10 January 2022 18: 01
      +1
      We just can't stand the bool dads.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/АСВК
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Выхлоп_(снайперская_винтовка)
      https://topwar.ru/14557-tainstvennaya-tulskaya-krupnokalibernaya-snayperka-vm-2000.html
  2. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 6 January 2022 03: 13
    +6
    The British have quite high quality Accuracy International rifles in all calibers, including the .50 BMG. Why do they need this misunderstanding.
    1. Hypertension
      Hypertension 6 January 2022 13: 28
      +7
      Quote: FRoman1984
      Why do they need this misunderstanding.

      Then, which is lighter and more compact. The English equivalent of Accuracy International AS50 is heavier, longer and not a bullpup, respectively.
      1. FRoman1984
        FRoman1984 8 January 2022 05: 29
        0
        Quote: Hyperion
        Quote: FRoman1984
        Why do they need this misunderstanding.

        Then, which is lighter and more compact. The English equivalent of Accuracy International AS50 is heavier, longer and not a bullpup, respectively.

        The rifle in the .50BMG has to be heavy. Must be. To compensate for the impact. These hunting rifles should be light, not tactical.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 8 January 2022 09: 04
          +1
          Quote: FRoman1984
          The rifle in the .50BMG has to be heavy. Must be. To compensate for the impact.

          Yes. And the harder the better, right? Not less than a centner ... But seriously, there is a video in the comments where they shoot themselves from their hands and do not fall from recoil. You can't shoot aiming for a kilometer like that, but, say, in a city battle - a good help.
  3. swnvaleria
    swnvaleria 6 January 2022 03: 19
    +11
    on the channel "destructive ranch" mett cariker shot from such a rifle
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 6 January 2022 03: 27
    +4
    10 kg weight plus ammunition, plus the usual equipment ... at long distances you can't run a lot with such a weapon ... you will quickly get exhausted.
    Weapons for special operations, but not like for ordinary combat.
    A short barrel means that the accuracy is low ... What is the spread of hits on the target at a distance of 1,5 km?
    1. Vadim_2
      Vadim_2 6 January 2022 06: 02
      +2
      Her trunk also moves.
      1. Eule
        Eule 9 January 2022 17: 53
        -1
        That's right!
        Let's take a look at the process of shooting in:
        Bolt rifle - the bullet moves forward along the barrel, the rifle backward, while, since the butt is below the axis of the barrel bore, a throwing moment occurs. Which depends on: the weather and clothing, the force of pressing the butt to the shoulder, the position of the shooter (at a table, on a rug lying down, or in a distorted position behind a shelter caught on the ground).
        In a rifle with a movable barrel, during the passage of the barrel by the bullet, the barrel and bolt move monotonously along the guides backward, while since the center of mass of the barrel and bolt is approximately on the axis of the barrel bore, there is no toss yet. The toss will occur when the moving parts hit the receiver part (and the bullet will already be somewhere far away).
        The conclusion is simple - the bolt is more accurate in competitions, and the "lynx" can be more accurate in real combat conditions, when it is necessary to shoot, where it is from.
        1. Dmitry V.
          Dmitry V. 11 January 2022 15: 43
          0
          Quote: eule
          In a rifle with a movable barrel, during the passage of the barrel by the bullet, the barrel and bolt move monotonously along the guides backward, while the center of mass of the barrel and bolt is located approximately on the axis of the barrel

          And no one will cancel the rotation of a heavy bullet in the barrel bore, respectively - the reverse force is transmitted to the barrel, the barrel attachment (if the barrel is suspended) and the point of application of this force with acceleration shifts relative to the CG of the weapon. Additionally, a Coriolis force arises, deflecting the barrel from the sighting line, it is compensated by the bipod and shoulder rest.
          On the one hand, the recoil force is stretched in time, on the other hand, the dynamic change in the application of the recoil force introduces its own errors in shooting and the more moving elements, the more opportunities for foreign particles (pollution) to get between them and jam the moving parts of the weapon.
          Those. It is advisable to transport such weapons to the place of hostilities in an airtight case - which does not always correspond to the working conditions of special forces.
          A rifle with such a huge barrel travel, in dusty conditions, will not work reliably.
    2. CTABEP
      CTABEP 6 January 2022 10: 32
      +14
      PKM weighs 9kg, and you have to carry more rounds on it. Spark "Bumblebees" - 16, and they still need a machine gun. So it's not so hard, for its class of rifles - even light.
    3. Anzhey V.
      Anzhey V. 7 January 2022 14: 36
      +5
      at long distances with such a weapon you cannot run a lot ... you will quickly get exhausted.
      Weapons for special operations, but not like for regular combat


      On the march, anti-material rifles are disassembled and their parts are distributed by members of the sniper group. For more than 30 years it has been written in Western charters who bears what. Nobody carries such a weapon entirely outside of combat.

      Weapons for special operations, but not like for regular combat


      The practice of local wars shows that sniper groups must constantly move across the battlefield in vehicles, otherwise they very quickly become the target of all more or less long-range means of fire destruction. On an ATV / Buggy / Motorcycle / Pickup, the weight of the rifle is not so critical.
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    5. Alexander Samoilov
      Alexander Samoilov 10 January 2022 00: 02
      -1
      Accuracy: Sub MOA. This allows you to work on a person up to 1700 m. Of course, only with American match cartridges.
      1. kpd
        kpd 15 January 2022 08: 33
        0
        What's the accuracy there? The long stroke of the barrel means rather large thermal gaps, and the sight is fixed on the bolt carrier. So at a distance of 1700 meters only at the silhouette of a helicopter and shoot.
  5. Alex_You
    Alex_You 6 January 2022 03: 39
    +6
    Well that's it! Buy! Seriously, what an ad article.
  6. yuriy55
    yuriy55 6 January 2022 04: 27
    +12
    Vyacheslav! It would be nice to add:

    When shooting without preparation, you can knock out your shoulder ...
    1. kalibr
      6 January 2022 06: 20
      +11
      Thanks! Very good and clear video. I am very grateful to you.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 6 January 2022 10: 36
        +8
        Quote: kalibr
        Thanks! Very good and clear video. I am very grateful to you

        Still, I would like at least a few words about accuracy. Long recoil system ... the benefits are clear, yes. But there’s a catch! Is the dispersion large?
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 January 2022 04: 43
    +11
    "New British Special Forces rifle can shoot down helicopters!"
    It depends on where to shoot. A "helicopter can be shot down" and feces. 7,62. It depends on where you go.
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 7 January 2022 22: 17
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      "New British Special Forces rifle can shoot down helicopters!"
      It depends on where to shoot. A "helicopter can be shot down" and feces. 7,62. It depends on where you go.

      To the pilot's temple.
  8. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2022 05: 36
    +8
    Until the video with the downed F35 on takeoff is shown I will not believe it !!! laughing
    1. kalibr
      6 January 2022 06: 17
      +5
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Until the video with the downed F35 on takeoff is shown I will not believe it !!!

      Will you, Vladislav, and about such a rifle. In the spring ...
    2. riwas
      riwas 6 January 2022 08: 21
      +7
      Until the video with the downed F35 on takeoff is shown I will not believe it !!!

      By the way, in addition to the helicopter, which it can hit at a distance of 1968-2625 meters

      No, they seem to mean firing planes and helicopters in the parking lot.
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 6 January 2022 09: 37
      +4
      On takeoff, in my opinion, any plane can be easily "overwhelmed" even from a muzzle-loading pocket loaded with shot!) Indeed, the main thing is to get there successfully.
    4. Catfish
      Catfish 6 January 2022 12: 20
      +2

      riwas (riwas)
      Today, 08: 21
      NEW

      +5
      Until the video with the downed F35 on takeoff is shown I will not believe it !!!

      By the way, in addition to the helicopter, which it can hit at a distance of 1968-2625 meters

      No, they seem to mean firing planes and helicopters in the parking lot.


      This, in my opinion, is the only real use of the rifle - shooting at aircraft in their parking lot.

      Vlad, hello and best wishes! smile
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2022 16: 59
        +11
        Greetings to an honest company, was it worth it to fence a "vegetable garden". On a bet, he is ready to hit the Boeing 777 from a distance of 2000 nuclei, with the third shot from the ancient Mosinka without an optical sight. With a telescopic sight with a ballistic computer, like a Hungarian, ready to hit with three shots at a distance of 2500 balls.
        Even the ancient PTR and PTS from a kilometer fit with their 14,5 mm ammunition into a 1x1m target.
        Destroy an airplane, a helicopter and an armored vehicle with one hit. These are not even fairy tales, but the delirium of the gray mare over which the psychiatric hospital is crying). Especially 25 cm of concrete, apparently a foam block is meant. 25 cm of reinforced concrete in our domestic understanding holds a 14,5 mm bullet from the insistence of 50 meters. Not every cellar with 82mm walls can even open an 200 mm mine. Now we look at the performance characteristics beyond 2 cm of steel from a distance of 100 meters, at a bullet speed of 800 m / s at the dueling cut, at a distance of 200 m, it will allow to pierce 10 mm armor, at a distance of 300 m it is not a fact that a 5mm iron sheet will be sewn through. What antimatter qualities of a rifle are we talking about? Our OSV covers the Hungarian like a bull a sheep with a similar patron.
        Well, somewhere like that.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 6 January 2022 18: 20
          +5
          Our OSV covers the Hungarian like a bull a sheep with a similar patron.


          You express yourself very qualitatively, Comrade Colonel, it is simply pleasing to the eye and sweetheart in your soul. smile drinks
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2022 18: 37
            +4
            I cannot give the performance characteristics of the OSV, but our guys are training in shooting at targets of 50x50 cm at a XNUMX-kilometer range. At two kilometers, this is definitely a target hitting meter by meter. But shooting down jets and helicopters in flight is a different story. As well as disable a combat vehicle with one shot.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 6 January 2022 18: 49
              +4
              But shooting down jets and helicopters in flight is a different story.

              That's right. wink
              1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2022 19: 08
                -1
                Uncle Kostya googled the performance characteristics of the Lebedev rifle "Sevostopol" and compare it with the Hungarian misunderstanding. Everything will fall into place.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 6 January 2022 19: 34
                  +1
                  I did not find something like that. request
                  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2022 23: 19
                    +5
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    I did not find something like that. request

                    As always, I misinterpreted the name of the designer Lobaev, not Lebedev.
                    Guys from interesting services buy such weapons in a club. Better so far in Russia there is nothing from antimatter, but it is a bolt, and not with a short barrel stroke, like a machine gun.


                    This is apparently a civilian version, the military one comes with a built-in silencer.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 7 January 2022 05: 35
                      +3
                      Thank you, Vlad. Of course, I read about Lobaev. smile
  9. Tolianych
    Tolianych 6 January 2022 06: 40
    +9
    Cheetah, and even Lynx (Lynx) - what kind of lion is this tiger)
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 13 January 2022 05: 32
      0
      "Gepys" or "Rypard" .. laughing
  10. riwas
    riwas 6 January 2022 08: 19
    +1
    It is noted that the bullet of this rifle caliber .50 (12.7 mm) has an initial velocity of 780 m / s (2559 ft / s) and easily penetrates the armor of the car, and then also explodes inside.

    Maybe an armor-piercing incendiary bullet. Explosive by the military is prohibited.
    1. CTABEP
      CTABEP 6 January 2022 10: 33
      +4
      MDZ-shki, in fact, are explosive, although they are called incendiary. They make a hole about the head.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 6 January 2022 11: 29
        +2
        Quote: CTABEP
        MDZ-shki, in fact, are explosive, although they are called incendiary

        In my opinion, in the forties in the USSR, 12,7-mm bullets for air machine guns were called ... incendiary-explosive bullets!
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 6 January 2022 13: 01
          +4
          Volodya, hello! hi

          So the Hungarians "cut through" with the arrow. It is a pity that our unforgettable Carbine, who considered the Hungarian submachine gun Kiraly 39M, was the crown of the creation of arms creative thought, did not "live" to this. laughing
          1. Alf
            Alf 6 January 2022 17: 49
            +2
            Quote: Sea Cat
            It's a pity our unforgettable Carbine did not "live" before,

            Do not mention this name, you will call it !!! What are we going to do then?
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 6 January 2022 18: 18
              +4
              What are we going to do then?


              How is it that - to have fun with the whole camp! laughing laughing laughing
              1. Alf
                Alf 6 January 2022 18: 20
                +2
                Quote: Sea Cat
                What are we going to do then?


                How is it that - to have fun with the whole camp! laughing laughing laughing

                I understand that I will now say a seditious and forbidden thought - all kagalo will have to ... drive this individual into the skull with a forum.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 6 January 2022 18: 24
                  +1
                  Unfortunately, obviously, the open day at his "house", on the occasion of the covid, was probably canceled, so, alas, he left us, most likely, forever. request crying
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 6 January 2022 18: 58
            0
            Quote: Sea Cat
            So the Hungarians "cut through" with the arrow

            I wish you good health, Kostya! Yeah....!
    2. Avior
      Avior 6 January 2022 11: 05
      +8
      The convention prohibits the use of explosive bullets against people, but does not prohibit against technology.
      But, perhaps, if such bullets are found in a captured sniper, then it is better for him to cut down the front sight on his gun in advance, despite all the Geneva conventions.
      The enemy's snipers are generally badly treated in the army.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 6 January 2022 11: 42
        +4
        Quote: Avior
        The convention prohibits the use of explosive bullets against people, but does not prohibit against technology.

        That's it ! Although, if just an armor-piercing 12,7-mm bullet hits the "soldier", then it will not seem to anyone! So, all this is ... discontinuous, inseparable, permitted, not permitted, more and more from the "evil one"!
        1. Alf
          Alf 6 January 2022 17: 51
          +2
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Although, if just an armor-piercing 12,7-mm bullet hits the "soldier", then it will not seem to anyone!

          And just simple ... They will pack a soldier in a very compact box.
      2. General failure
        General failure 6 January 2022 12: 43
        +3
        The convention prohibits the use of explosive bullets against people

        This is not relevant for the "large" caliber 12.7 BMG. In principle, there are no minor wounds from him. Any bullet.

        And explosive (i.e., expansive) bullets are also distinguished by no armor penetration. So, in military affairs, they are poorly applicable.
        Standing in service with light bullets with weak longitudinal stability (5.45, 5.56), when hitting the body, work no worse than expansive ones, but at the same time they do not violate any conventions.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 6 January 2022 11: 36
      +1
      Quote: riwas
      Maybe an armor-piercing incendiary bullet

      Back in the last century, 12,7-mm cartridges with armor-piercing fragmentation incendiary bullets were developed in the United States! They were intended for firing at armored vehicles! So to speak, "anti-material" ammunition (!) ... not for "manpower"!
      1. Obliterator
        Obliterator 6 January 2022 14: 52
        +3
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        Back in the last century, 12,7-mm cartridges with armor-piercing fragmentation incendiary bullets were developed in the United States! They were intended for firing at armored vehicles! So to speak, "anti-material" ammunition (!) ... not for "manpower"!

        Only there is information that they almost completely switched to these ammunition, because people hiding behind shelters are torn apart by these bullets with a bang. It is not even necessary to hit the body precisely - it will tear or burn the enemy with an explosion behind the obstacle.
    4. Obliterator
      Obliterator 6 January 2022 14: 35
      +1
      Quote: riwas
      Maybe an armor-piercing incendiary bullet. Explosive by the military is prohibited.

      They are also used as discontinuous. Google about the Raufoss Mk 211 bullet. Used extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan. This was even mentioned in one of the documentary films about snipers.
  11. Flooding
    Flooding 6 January 2022 10: 29
    +1
    the bullet of this rifle caliber .50 (12.7 mm) has an initial velocity of 780 m / s (2559 ft / s) and easily penetrates the armor of the car

    But how, for example, with the armor of the M-20 Pobeda car?
    will cope?
  12. Amateur
    Amateur 6 January 2022 12: 22
    +9
    Sniper with automatic long barrel travel! Only a historian can appreciate this. In all other cases, it's just unprofessional. You can't even shoot her because the barrel after each shot will get up to a new position relative to the sight.
    1. Avior
      Avior 6 January 2022 12: 51
      +6
      Sniper with automatic long barrel travel!

      The explanation is very simple - this is not a sniper rifle, as mistakenly stated in the article, but an anti-material one. She is not required to be as accurate as a sniper.
      The long stroke of the barrel solves two important tasks for an anti-material rifle - it reduces the recoil of a powerful cartridge to acceptable values ​​and ensures the compactness of the weapon.
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 6 January 2022 12: 59
        +1
        So are we discussing Shpakovsky's article or a rifle? drinks
      2. Alf
        Alf 6 January 2022 17: 53
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        She is not required to be as accurate as a sniper.

        Especially at a distance of 1,5-2 km ...
      3. Bond, James Bond
        Bond, James Bond 7 January 2022 10: 30
        -1
        Quote: Avior
        this is not a sniper rifle, as it is mistakenly stated in the article, but an anti-material one.

        erroneously - it is divided into sniper and anti-material. There are no seconds. There are just large-caliber sniper rifles, some more precisely, others not.
        And "anti-material" and "large-caliber sniper" are from the cycle "assault rifles" - "automatic"
    2. Denimax
      Denimax 6 January 2022 14: 11
      -3
      There is probably a high manufacturing precision and minimal backlash. And if you equip it with an electronic video sight, where the lens as a separate part is rigidly fixed to the barrel, then the problem can be completely solved.
      1. Bond, James Bond
        Bond, James Bond 7 January 2022 10: 32
        -1
        Quote: Denimax
        And if you equip an electronic video sight

        the scope does not make the rifle a sniper. This is just a sight. If you attach optics to Saigu-12, will you have a sniper shotgun?
    3. Bond, James Bond
      Bond, James Bond 7 January 2022 10: 35
      -2
      Quote: Amateur
      Sniper with automatic long barrel travel!

      yes, you have to think of this! And then the author will sing the praises of this craft ...
    4. Eule
      Eule 9 January 2022 17: 56
      -1
      Not certainly in that way. With good workmanship and design, the springs will place the barrel and bolt in the same position. Probably, the duration of the design is associated precisely with the selection of a method to select all the backlash in the forward position.
      Degtyarev managed to draw this PTRD in a week. By the way, there is also a long-stroke shock absorber, which evened out the reaction of the support when firing from different positions.
  13. motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 6 January 2022 15: 29
    +5
    By the way, in addition to the helicopter, which it can hit at a distance of 1968-2625 meters, it is also designed to engage targets such as "light shelters and buildings, electronic structures and missile launchers."


    The distance of 2626m did not allow the helicopter to be hit, but the building on the roof of which the helicopter was located was hit. (from the report of Vice Officer J. Smith)
  14. zenion
    zenion 6 January 2022 16: 16
    +4
    Our business is to crow! And there, though it’s not dawn! "They scare them with plates, say the mean ones fly, then your dogs bark, then the ruins speak." V. Vysotsky.
  15. Undecim
    Undecim 6 January 2022 17: 07
    +5
    "Anti-material rifles" (as this class of small arms is called in England and the USA)

    A common mistake when translating professionally oriented texts. They are not called that either in England or in the USA. In this case, the word "materiel" is translated as a material part or military equipment. Therefore, both in England and in the United States, the name "anti-materiel rifle" is understood as a rifle used to destroy enemy materiel.
    1. kalibr
      7 January 2022 11: 43
      0
      Quote: Undecim
      A common mistake when translating professionally oriented texts.

      It's not a mistake. This translation, but put in quotation marks, implies a somewhat humorous coloring of this name. The exact translation is not taken in quotation marks!
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 7 January 2022 13: 37
        +2
        However, the quotation marks did not help and the audience actively pushes water in a mortar, discussing the "sniper rifle" and publishing remarks "A sniper with an automatics on a long barrel stroke! Only a historian can appreciate this."
        1. kalibr
          8 January 2022 08: 22
          0
          Quote: Undecim
          However, the quotation marks did not help, and the audience was actively pounding water in a mortar, discussing the "sniper rifle" and publishing the lines "A sniper with automatic weapons on a long barrel stroke! Only a historian can appreciate this."

          And this is 80% of the audience, Viktor Nikolaevich. Which otherwise there will simply be nothing to discuss!
  16. Emergency
    Emergency 6 January 2022 17: 15
    +2
    Something smelled painfully familiar. winked
  17. Split
    Split 6 January 2022 18: 18
    0
    Well, of course, the barrett won't break through with the same waste, but it will break through ... WHAT for nonsense!
    [Center]
  18. lomax77
    lomax77 6 January 2022 18: 54
    -1
    It looks like someone in charge in the British army has outplayed "Arma 3". There, this rifle, recently adopted in the US by JLTV from Oshkosh (under the name Hunter) and our ZiL "Punisher" (under the name Ifrit) have been present since 2013.
  19. Bond, James Bond
    Bond, James Bond 6 January 2022 21: 41
    +2
    New British Special Forces rifle can shoot down helicopters!
    this is just a title that the author allowed himself. Moreover, the author deliberately distorted words, which are in the article itself, quote:
    A team equipped with such rifles can very quickly destroy half a dozen very expensive fighters or helicopters
    keyword - destroyrather than knocking down. Destroy at the airfield. Like any "anti-material" rifle

    In general, it is a very controversial thing, because automation with a long barrel stroke brings such disadvantages to the weapon as large dispersion (due to the moving mass of the barrel).
    The British have a gas-operated Accuracy International AS50, which is heavier, but more suitable for high-precision shooting at long distances. And this hack, apparently, for reconnaissance and sabotage detachments.
    1. kalibr
      7 January 2022 08: 15
      0
      Quote: Bond James Bond
      Moreover, the author deliberately distorted the words,

      This is the headline from an article in the Daily Mail. James Bond doesn't read British newspapers?
      1. Bond, James Bond
        Bond, James Bond 7 January 2022 09: 45
        -2
        Quote: kalibr
        This is the headline from an article in the Daily Mail.

        and readers must have psychic abilities to understand this? Or is everyone reading the Daily Mail? Where in your article it is indicated that this is the headline of the said newspaper?

        It’s one thing when it’s just written “New British special forces rifle can shoot down helicopters!”, And quite different when “Daily Mail:“ New British special forces rifle can shoot down helicopters! ” articles.
        1. kalibr
          7 January 2022 11: 37
          +1
          This was the beginning of the article ...
          1. Bond, James Bond
            Bond, James Bond 7 January 2022 14: 18
            -2
            Quote: kalibr
            This was the beginning of the article.

            thank you, I read the title. You may have noticed this even from my first comment. Does it say where the quote comes from? No, it is not said. Then what are you talking about?
        2. kalibr
          7 January 2022 11: 40
          +1
          Quote: Bond James Bond
          Where in your article it is indicated that this is the headline of the said newspaper?

          At the beginning. True, it does not say that this is a headline from the Mail, but since it is in quotation marks, and then it is written that this was reported by such and such a newspaper, then it is quite clear that this is a newspaper headline and where it came from. Everything is according to the norms of our Russian language.
          1. Bond, James Bond
            Bond, James Bond 7 January 2022 14: 13
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            There, however, it is not said that this is a heading from the Mail

            That's the point of what you are told, that the title is without attribution. Hence the criticism, but for some reason you do not agree with it. It's funny, isn't it? There is an error, but it is not an error!

            Quote: kalibr
            and then it is written that such and such a newspaper reported about it, then it is quite clear that this is a newspaper headline and where

            shouldn't be at all. In the article, quotes and materials from completely different sources can be used, and the reader should not guess where you got them from. This is, of course, if you are writing a good article.

            Quote: kalibr
            Everything according to the norms of our Russian language

            you just think so. Since you have written and did not make any spelling mistakes, is everything according to the norms? It's funny) But critics simply cannot read minds, and they are guilty of that. So?
            In my opinion, you just have "star fever". You not only do not accept constructive criticism at all, but also do your best to "fight back" and accuse your opponent of ignorance.
            And you have much to grow, both in terms of purely "writing" mistakes, and in terms of working out the material (your praises of a sniper rifle with automatic weapons on a long barrel stroke look a little ... strange, so to speak) and terminology. Good luck)
            1. kalibr
              8 January 2022 08: 19
              0
              Quote: Bond James Bond
              In the article, quotes and materials from completely different sources can be used, and the reader should not guess where you got them from.

              They can. But here the name is in quotation marks, the word "British" is present, and then it is immediately said that the British newspaper reported this. You have to be very dumb to find an error here.
              1. Bond, James Bond
                Bond, James Bond 8 January 2022 16: 51
                -1
                Quote: kalibr
                Gotta be very dumb

                this is the impression one gets when reading your comments. You have to be infinitely dumb so as not to see mistakes hi
                1. kalibr
                  8 January 2022 17: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Bond James Bond
                  this is the impression one gets when reading your comments.

                  Wonderful! Just wonderful. We have spoken 10 comments with you. Just excellent. And all because of some nonsense. By the way, why did you register only on January 3 and have already managed to get into a deep minus? Not only, apparently, your comments seem stupid to me, but also to other VO readers. Think ...
                  1. Bond, James Bond
                    Bond, James Bond 8 January 2022 17: 50
                    -1
                    Quote: kalibr
                    Think about it ...

                    that's exactly on your part and the calculation was made that a person knows how to think. Note, on my part there was no rudeness and insults, but there was constructive criticism (namely criticism, not criticism). If you signed up as an author, then you must be ready for criticism, and if you are an intelligent person, then take out some positive aspects from it. At least in order to make your articles better, if you respect your readers, and do not write according to the principle "I am a Star, and they will do it anyway, I am in authority, I can! Well, who is the first to praise me?"

                    Quote: kalibr
                    You just registered on January 3 and have already managed to get into a deep minus? Not only, apparently, your comments seem stupid to me

                    if you were on my profile, you probably read the comments. I do not find anything stupid or inadequate in them. And I don't care about the pluses and minuses, I'm not a red girl, so that everyone likes it, and the purpose of the comments is not at all. to like it. Moreover, they (+ -) do not reflect, as I managed to notice, the objective state of affairs. Anyone can instruct minuses, even just because they disagree with your opinion. Or just like that. Here, as I managed to note, quite adequate comments can be in minuses, and any blizzard - in plus. This speaks more not about the commentator, but about those who put them, your plus-minus signs, over which you are shaking. This is an indicator of a person's (in) adequacy - putting a minus on an adequate comment. Like this
                    1. kalibr
                      8 January 2022 21: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Bond James Bond
                      Like this

                      I see you have not understood anything. Well ... just one more comment.
                      Quote: Bond James Bond
                      Moreover, they (+ -) do not reflect, as I managed to notice, the objective state of affairs. Anyone can instruct minuses, even just because they disagree with your opinion. Or just like that. Here, as I managed to note, quite adequate comments can be in minuses, and any blizzard - in plus.

                      This is generally the specificity of online journalism. And yet this is an indicator. You should read my textbook on online journalism for universities, but you won't. And so you know everything and understand everything.
                      1. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 8 January 2022 21: 49
                        -1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        I see you didn't understand anything

                        I see you too.
                        Quote: kalibr
                        And so you know everything and understand everything

                        these are your fantasies. Where did I say that? Cite a quote so as not to be a gibberish? You can attribute them to another person only if you are not very smart. This is generally the very last "argument" of those who have nothing more to say.
                        Do you understand what's the matter? I, too, in some way was tied up in this field, therefore I have the right to make judgments (in general, anyone who has read your material has the right to have them, right? How to express criticism. flaws, the author's eyes are blurred - even if he does not suffer from Star fever) And I also have a huge experience of communication with all kinds of technology and a very good education behind me. Therefore, I have no less experience, and maybe more than yours, and it is not for you to tell me.
                        Quote: kalibr
                        And yet this is an indicator

                        this is not an indicator. Rather, as I have already noted, this is an indicator of the adequacy or inadequacy of those who evaluate you. Here is a person angry with you, for example, that you outplayed him in an argument, and he gives you disadvantages. Is it objective? No, he has a desire to annoy. And he "salt" as he can.
                        Why do you, like an intelligent person, have to explain common truths?
                        Moreover, you yourself said that our little dispute is stupidity. So why are you continuing this nonsense? Or do you absolutely need to leave your word for yourself? I give you this opportunity, feel like a winner)

                        Quote: kalibr
                        You should read my textbook on online journalism

                        I can't imagine what a smart person can write, who is so easily wound up from constructive criticism. I think you should be like psychoanalysis or something like that. And yes, you are a star-patient, and such a person cannot be objective due to the above reason. Therefore, talking to him is a waste of time. I already understood who you are.
                        And if you think that your textbook has a section on how to attract the attention of the audience with deliberately distorted headings - then I know this without you, but I have never used such cheap tricks. Abhors, you know, principles.
                      2. kalibr
                        8 January 2022 22: 08
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Abhors, you know, principles.

                        As it is ... a word forbidden in VO, but popular in everyday life!
                      3. kalibr
                        8 January 2022 22: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        So why are you continuing this nonsense?

                        Squeeze comments out of you! The more there are, the higher the investment attractiveness of the site!
                      4. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 8 January 2022 22: 12
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Squeeze comments out of you! The more there are, the higher the investment attractiveness of the site!

                        well, at least glimpses of humor have gone) So, not all is lost) Once again, good luck in a difficult field. and let the articles become more interesting and detailed.
                      5. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 8 January 2022 22: 33
                        +1
                        and the last wish. If you are writing articles about small arms, find (hire) yourself a consultant. Desirable from those who had real experience of dealing with these models. Because the descriptions and judgments ... are very childish, as if from the lips of those who, not only this, but in general did not hold a firearm in their hands. Agree the format of the site implies a certain professionalism in the topic, is not it? Well, if the topic is not yours, then why are you taking it? Anyone can rewrite an article from the Daily, you don't need a lot of mind, what is the merit? And then also get angry if you retyped it thoughtlessly here and there ... I’ll give you advice, free - to work out the material better. Of course, it's great to reduce the number of articles, because working on a serious article is good work, but their quality will increase manifold. Readers will only say thank you. And not sycophants or those who have known you for a long time, but those who have come in and read at least once - that is, objective readers - and interestingly, I decided to stay. This is how you need to attract the audience. Quality. There is such a character here, Ryabov. Well at least you didn't fall to his level. Or do you get paid for articles and volume? then it is clear. But you are not a competitor to Ryabov anyway, he will crush everyone with the volume, though. I think rarely anyone reads his articles to the end. you want the same fate for your creations (if, of course, they mean something to you. They meant to me - that's why I wrote well, but very rarely. And not here, anticipating the question.)
                      6. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 10: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Anyone can rewrite the Daily article

                        Not every! Everyone can't even read!
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        work out the material better.

                        Why and for whom? 90% of readers are completely satisfied with this. 10% can be simply ignored. There is only one benefit from you here - clicks.
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Readers will only say thank you.

                        You can't put thanks in your pocket!
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        They meant to me - that's why I wrote well, but very rarely.

                        Happy for you! But he is not sick with idealism.
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        And not here

                        And where? In "Questions of History", "Motherland", "History Illustrated", "Military Historical Journal", "History of Russian State and Law", in magazines of England, Australia, USA, Japan, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Lithuania, Ukraine - in the first do not pay, in foreign countries now you have to pay yourself! And in the paid ones our brother is now reluctant to publish.
                      7. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 19: 36
                        -1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Why and for whom?

                        Quote: kalibr
                        You can't put thanks in your pocket!

                        Quote: kalibr
                        not sick with idealism

                        Q.E.D. You yourself admit that your articles are not of the highest level - so what is the dispute about? And why your excuses - would ignore the remark and that's it. I’m no use at all - I won’t send you a dollar, I don’t send you cognac, I don’t sing odes here, I’m just taking up time. From writing another "masterpiece".

                        "Business is nothing personal," right? The main thing is to give out more material, and quality in the last roles. Well, so it was necessary to write from the very beginning - if it did not work out to ignore - they say, I write as much as they pay and as much as I estimate my writing, if they pay me 5 thousand dollars, I’ll be upset. And the readers, in fact, do not care.

                        Actually, it was naive to expect the opposite, but, I think, all of a sudden, those who care for the idea are still alive. But no, apparently, they are not left ... even among those who are older than me.
                      8. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        all of a sudden they are still alive for the idea.

                        It is precisely among those who are older and not left.
                      9. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 17
                        -2
                        it's a pity. Here is my grandfather, who went through the war, and his comrades (both military and civilian) were like that. This is probably why the country was great.
                      10. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 20
                        +1
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        required to prove

                        Do you want to prove something to me?
                      11. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 26
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Do you want to prove something to me?

                        you don't. If you had the ability to understand something, you would understand. Much has already been said, and "he who had eyes would see." I am not one of those who instill opinions "with fire and sword", by all means prove the case. If I see that the body is not viable, then let it continue to live like this.
                      12. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 19: 45
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Not every! Everyone can't even read!

                        I mean educated people, not monkeys who climbed down from the palm yesterday. How could you not understand - your thoughts for the title should have been understood)
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Why and for whom? 90% of readers are completely satisfied with this. 10% can be simply ignored

                        well, for 90% you clearly got excited. Otherwise, there would be no critical comments, not only from my side. And these are not one or two.
                        And the author, probably, should have some kind of professional pride and honor - perhaps it is not very good to feel that your material has been read and did not like it? Although, what am I, mani-mani ... now in the first place. They will replace both conscience and dedication. Vanity at the first place. This is what drives you, isn't it?
                      13. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Otherwise, there would be no critical comments, not only from my side.

                        First of all, the cons for some reason put you. And each time there are more and more of them. Attitude, however ...
                      14. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 20
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        First of all, the cons for some reason put you

                        you have already explained why. If you don't understand, read it again. Inadequate, running through all the comments in a row, puts minuses - and, since it has a rating, then immediately into a minus. Objectively? no, he doesn't even read the comments, he stupidly minuses them. Is your brain unable to digest such simple information? As I understand it, Russian is your native language. Or, as I understand it, you just catch the hype?
                        And in general, re-read all the previous comments. Otherwise, I get the impression that I am communicating with a person with dementia.
                      15. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        And in general, re-read all the previous comments.

                        What for? It's enough that you write them. This raises the site's ranking. The bird pecks by the grain, but it happens to be full.
                      16. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 10
                        -2
                        Russia, Russia just stood and was famous at all times for the fact that there were people. who acted out of conviction, and not for a gimmick. How do you imagine a Soviet soldier covering an embrasure, falling on a grenade, being left alone to cover his comrades, knowing that this is the end? Did they think about how they would be appreciated and praised? Of course not. They acted according to their conscience and their convictions.

                        You are here reckoning about the plus-minus signs. For some, this is the purpose of life, such self-affirmation. To be right at all costs and in spite of everything. And if he was shown that he was wrong, but publicly (the site is a public place), he will harbor anger, and every day he will go to his profile two or three times and put a minus on all comments. There is nothing more to shit with, but I really want to! Imagine how a person sharpens and mangles, that, for sure, he is just waiting to get to the computer and "take revenge"! The little people have become low, they have grown up ... There is no endurance, no honor, no willpower, no character. Admitting a mistake, evaluating an opponent (opponent) - this requires courage and character. And it's easier for a weakling to run and stick with the cons that you are shaking for. And do you consider this an objective assessment? Yes, your mind is even less than you thought. Do you have life in them?

                        call me an idealist, I don't take it as derogatory. I am ready to spend time and energy for someone to become better and more educated. My articles were about this, and I did not forget about any of my potential readers, and even more so did not treat them as cattle (they say, who liked and praised - well done, and who does not - fuck you!) Thank God, that not everyone is like you)
                      17. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        My articles were about this, and I did not forget about any of my potential readers,

                        Not a single one. This is necessary ... There are simply no words, how I am touched by such concern for people. You are not by chance the reincarnation of Buddha, or Christ ... And articles, so wonderful in content, where to read them only? Would you like to indicate the location? I hinted to you, but it can be seen too subtly and you did not understand.
                      18. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 36
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        I hinted to you, but it can be seen too subtly and you did not understand

                        you have been given an unambiguous and precise answer.

                        Quote: kalibr
                        Not a single one. This is necessary ... There are simply no words, how I am touched by such concern for people

                        Yes, you, apparently, did not dream of caring for your neighbor. I wish that neither you nor your loved ones find themselves in such a situation when they need help from the outside, complete strangers to them, who simply out of the kindness of their hearts or out of convictions have postponed their affairs, and, perhaps, risking their lives, helped your loved ones ... And then you go up to the one who, for example, saved your loved one from drowning, and ironically say "there are simply no words, how touched I am!" either you are actually a shit man, or ...
                        What is it for? In addition to the fact that an honest and good person is always good and honest, he does not need mani-mani to "raise the tone". And he jumps into the water, risking his life and health, not for money-mani and not for fame, but for a completely different reason. I'm afraid you will never understand her.
                      19. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        you have been given an unambiguous and precise answer.

                        Sorry, but I did not find any addresses of the journals where your materials were published, or links to the site. If it's not difficult for you to repeat, please. It’s really interesting for me ... Suddenly I’ll learn something by reading your publications in the press.
                      20. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 43
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Suddenly I will learn something

                        don't learn. This is clear to everyone, both me and you. You have already told about yourself. Do not play to the audience, this is at least low.
                      21. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 20: 55
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        don't learn. This is clear to everyone, both me and you. You have already told about yourself. Do not play to the audience, this is at least low.

                        Then indicate where you can read them. What could be easier?
                      22. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 20: 36
                        -2
                        And you talk, you talk ... The more you talk, the better your readers will get to know you. And they will ponder whether such a person should be respected at all.
                      23. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 21: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        The more you say, the better your readers will get to know you. And they will ponder whether such a person should be respected at all.

                        I have been publishing materials here almost every day since ... 2014, and I wrote enough so that the readers simply had nowhere to recognize me better, there is even a photo of my barn in the country and I am next to him. And someone respects, someone does not respect, but to be honest, there are more of the former than the latter, otherwise I would have fallen into a complete minus a long time ago. But, you have forgotten one of the important rules of the site. It is not the author that is discussed, but the material. We finished with the material a long time ago, right? Now the main thing: you mentioned that you write excellent materials at its true worth. Fine! This is the third time I ask you to give an e-mail address where they can be read, or the number of the printed magazine, or, in extreme cases, the E-lab address. Don't respect me, give me a link to your published articles and that's it.
                      24. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 21: 04
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        otherwise I would have fallen out a long time ago.

                        and that would be a reason to stop writing? How quickly you raised your pens! What I'm talking about. And there is no need to translate. Do you want to discuss the material? Excuse me. I also wrote about him. Have something to say?

                        and yes. not in my rules to discuss the author. So you yourself dragged into that gimp. Remember my first comment? Exclusively on the topic. For the title of the article, and there was also a description of the rifle. And then I suggested that you finish the dispute. But everything "does not let you go" ... let's talk about the rifle. You praised her so much. How can you prove it? "(C) Do you think that the scheme with a long recoil of the barrel contributes to the accuracy of shooting?
                      25. karish
                        karish 9 January 2022 20: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        ... My articles were about this, and I did not forget about any of my potential readers.

                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        And you talk, you talk ... The more you talk, the better your readers will get to know you. And they will ponder whether such a person should be respected at all.

                        The question is, of course, rhetorical, but in the light of all your statements about the truth. honesty and respect for the reader. could you provide links to your articles.
                        Thank you in advance.
                      26. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 21: 01
                        -2
                        Today it is a blog on one of the social networks. I get nothing for this, except for the time spent (often to the detriment of everything else in life) and moral satisfaction.
                        Here we are talking about something else. Or do you have doubts that such people can really exist? My comments speak about openness and honesty. have you read them?
                        And you will not be scratched by the fact that the author openly says that he writes mostly "on the ditch" I liked it - good, no - and not for you ... There is no information, a stupid analysis or it does not exist at all - this is not for you .. Do you feel defective with such a policy that you were given an unfinished article? What do you like in the yellow press. tried to deceive and lure with a contrived headline?
                        You better read the comments of the author, he writes a lot of interesting things.
                      27. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 21: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Today it is a blog on one of the social networks.

                        What could be easier than not saying a lot, but giving a link to a blog ?! This is the second person asks you!
                      28. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 21: 31
                        -1
                        Why do you need this? you will not bear anything useful for yourself, your policy will not change. You have already said everything about yourself. A person can no longer be altered. This is just an attempt to divert the fire away from oneself, nothing more. Switch theme. you even ignored trying to talk about the rifle.
                      29. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 21: 44
                        0
                        Then what I'm interested in. I never wonder how some people, what an article, book or textbook is about, and how the personality of its author was reflected in its content. I read it myself and draw conclusions myself. Based on what you read, not speculation. Therefore, for the fourth time I am asking you to provide information about your materials. I'm just curious. Maybe this? Quite! Why not meet halfway both me and other VO readers, who, for sure, would also be interested in it. You might think that you are afraid of something ...
                      30. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 21: 46
                        -1
                        If you tell the answer, I'm not afraid of anything. you have already been answered. you are smart, so much so that you even translate articles from daily, don't you understand?
                      31. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 22: 08
                        0
                        So you publish in the Daily Mail? But if you are not afraid and not in the Daily Mail, then why don't you give your blog address?
                      32. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 21: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        you cannot bear anything useful for yourself

                        Is it so badly written? Allow me to judge whether I can endure something or not.
                      33. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 22: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Let me judge this

                        or to me. You talked about 10%. So you are one of them.
                      34. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 22: 06
                        0
                        Judge anything. Give the address of the blog where you can read your articles.
                      35. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 22: 02
                        -1
                        That's all for this. You cannot talk about the topic, but you have already talked about the rest.
                      36. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 21: 44
                        -2
                        And your ability to assess the intelligence of the interlocutor and the correctness of his thoughts and judgments by the number of pros and cons on a website is generally beyond praise. An intelligent and adequate person is immediately visible! This is roughly the same as judging a person's mental abilities by their clothes. Thank you, here you showed yours - I hope they will be visible to everyone, of the highest quality)
                      37. karish
                        karish 9 January 2022 21: 43
                        +1
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Today it is a blog on one of the social networks. I don't get anything for this,

                        money is not the main thing. what kind of blog?
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Here we are talking about something else. Or do you have doubts that such people can really exist?

                        Well, in general - yes. An existing person has nothing to hide if the blog is not on a pornhub, so I would love to read you.
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        And you will not be scratched that the author openly says that he writes mainly "on the fuck off"

                        I snag when someone opposes while not giving any references to their own works (which he constantly claims)
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        ... Don't you feel flawed with such a policy that you were given an unfinished article?

                        No, I don’t feel flawed, I just get the impression that someone, behind an innumerable number of high-flown phrases, is hiding a bare ass.
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        What do you like in the yellow press. tried to deceive and lure with a contrived headline?

                        or invented personal creativity with articles.
                        so all the same, give a reference to your articles.
                      38. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 21: 53
                        -3
                        Quote: karish
                        if the blog is not on pornhub

                        You know, just for one such word, you can give a person a jug, let alone show loyalty.
                        Quote: karish
                        I snag when someone opposes while not giving any references to their own works (which he constantly claims)

                        firstly, my opponent and you, not me, constantly assert about them. Secondly, if you are not scratched by the attitude towards you as a secondary, then why do you need to know anything at all?

                        Quote: karish
                        No, I don’t feel flawed, I just get the impression that someone, behind an innumerable number of high-flown phrases, is hiding a bare ass.

                        well, don't feel it. Life is bad without a sucker, the author's motto. lick further. And someone has already shown a bare ass.

                        Quote: karish
                        What do you like in the yellow press. tried to deceive and lure with a contrived headline?

                        do you think the title is correct?
                      39. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 22: 04
                        0
                        You are asked for the website's email address. Briefly and clearly.
                      40. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 22: 12
                        -1
                        And they gave you the answer, short and clear. Are you so dumb that you cannot understand? I will write an article on VO - you will be the judge. I am waiting for you first, with constructive criticism (although you are not capable of it a priori, it will be interesting to see how you show yourself in topics in which you know absolutely nothing).
                      41. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 22: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        And they gave you the answer, short and clear.

                        The address! You are welcome. We will talk about what will be at VO when it will be. And now the address of what is!
                      42. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 22: 14
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        we'll talk when it will be

                        on this and finish.
                      43. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 22: 17
                        0
                        The address! You are welcome! You are acting very ugly. It is customary here to give direct answers to direct questions.
                      44. Bond, James Bond
                        Bond, James Bond 9 January 2022 22: 19
                        -2
                        Quote: kalibr
                        It is customary here to give direct answers to direct questions.

                        and I gave it to you. Or is it also customary here not to understand the answers? Everything. This is the point with you.
                      45. kalibr
                        9 January 2022 22: 20
                        0
                        That is, there will be no links to the blog? Sadly...
                      46. Peter rybak
                        Peter rybak 15 January 2022 22: 47
                        0
                        Quote: Bond James Bond
                        Quote: kalibr
                        It is customary here to give direct answers to direct questions.

                        and I gave it to you. Or is it also customary here not to understand the answers? Everything. This is the point with you.

                        Well, you're a slippery type.
  20. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 6 January 2022 21: 46
    -1
    I think so and satellites and rockets on the launch pad mona! laughing
  21. KSVK
    KSVK 6 January 2022 23: 29
    +1
    Quote: Amateur
    Sniper with automatic long barrel travel! Only a historian can appreciate this.


    I absolutely agree with you! yes
    And, gentlemen, minimal clearances will not help. Absolutely. But in this very "long course" of shit can be hammered, mom do not cry. Especially when running with the barrel shifted to the rear position and, accordingly, with an open bolt.
    Plus The author has definitely earned it! good
    And ... not typical for sniper rifles in general, and for large-caliber rifles in particular; B - efficient, easy to carry, and relatively lightweight; and C - the principle of operation of its automation is the most simple. Needless to say: smart people in all respects did it! Well done!

    But I would like to know HOW, based on the seemingly correct input, such a conclusion is obtained?
    Although if “smart” means “those who know how to make a sucker for money”, and “good fellows” mean commercially successful ones, then yes.
  22. Alexey Lamonov
    Alexey Lamonov 7 January 2022 07: 47
    -3
    And hypersonic missiles are also easily shot down. True, during the Second World War, the Russians shot down planes from the three-line. Well, from them what to take, Asians damn it.
  23. Diverter
    Diverter 7 January 2022 15: 11
    -2
    “New British Special Forces rifle can shoot down helicopters!

    Satellites! It can shoot down not only fighters and helicopters, but also satellites! You are all khan, they are the coolest and smartest! Provided that you do not shoot at us and do not call the Russians for help!
  24. Nova
    Nova 7 January 2022 23: 07
    -1
    The old Hungarian rifle became the new English prodigy, knocking down helicopters and airplanes. Well, OK.
  25. Cowbra
    Cowbra 8 January 2022 00: 01
    -1
    A helicopter in hover position is a classic target for a sniper. And what's new here?)
  26. ELDER_VDV
    ELDER_VDV 8 January 2022 02: 04
    0
    We watched the movie "Shooter" and came up with a new characteristic of the rifle .....
  27. older
    older 8 January 2022 14: 43
    +1
    The advertisement is good, you need to take it. It will go for a duck ... You can slap a goose behind a concrete block ...
  28. Crabong
    Crabong 8 January 2022 19: 25
    0
    And what, what is there new?
  29. Berg berg
    Berg berg 8 January 2022 23: 09
    0
    We made such a ptrd-41 in the Great Patriotic War and there were craftsmen who shot down planes! Not otherwise they decided to rip off and modify a little, like the Americans with Kalashnikov!
  30. Serj Do
    Serj Do 9 January 2022 00: 52
    0
    Can't you shoot down satellites and spaceships with this rifle? An obvious flaw in their information services, it was necessary to declare about the possibility of exterminating any flying objects. And with the help of a modified version of the ammunition of this wonderful rifle, a team equipped with such rifles and the latest rocket-torpedo ammunition can very quickly destroy half a dozen nuclear submarines or at least 50 diesel submarines.
  31. Illanatol
    Illanatol 9 January 2022 09: 09
    +1
    Quote: aszzz888
    It depends on where to shoot. A "helicopter can be shot down" and feces. 7,62. It depends on where you go.


    Where does the Mi-24 need to get to in order to shoot it down at 7.62? Just wondering.
    Well, except perhaps to shoot while in the cockpit ... wink
  32. Konnick
    Konnick 9 January 2022 09: 24
    -1
    Quote: Illanatol
    Quote: aszzz888
    It depends on where to shoot. A "helicopter can be shot down" and feces. 7,62. It depends on where you go.


    Where does the Mi-24 need to get to in order to shoot it down at 7.62? Just wondering.
    Well, except perhaps to shoot while in the cockpit ... wink

    Into the air intakes. Even a bird can make a rustle there. Although they put special covers on the Mi-24, they are from birds and dust, but many take them off, since the power is reduced.
  33. Saladine
    Saladine 9 January 2022 11: 36
    -3
    "Capable of shooting down planes, helicopters and armored vehicles with one shot"
    Do the Naglo-Saxons still have phantom pains about the victory at Agincourt?
    It remains only for the technique to substitute itself for the shot of the mighty English warrior. And yes, do not forget to turn off the thermal imager before these.
  34. storm
    storm 9 January 2022 16: 30
    0
    Airplanes and helicopters are unlikely to be destroyed by shots from a 12,7mm rifle.
    Damaged - Possibly ....
    The same Metis-M ATGM is more effective in this situation, since it is guaranteed to destroy airplanes and helicopters standing at the airfield, even with armor protection.
    1. Eule
      Eule 9 January 2022 18: 00
      +3
      Here is a tactical moment - if the crew resorts on alarm, and the gearbox housing is punctured and the oil has leaked out, then it will not be able to fly out. If he doesn’t notice and will fly out, the fall of the helicopter with the landing force, due to “their” troops, reduces their morale. And the helicopter "behind the scenes" burned down at the airfield from being hit by the "Metis" is less noticeable. And also the weight - six missiles and a launcher. or a rifle and 10 rounds - which is easier to carry?
      I also have a hunch that after 5 launches, the ATGM position will be fired on from everything, and the crew will die. And the sniper has a chance to remain unnoticed and crawl away.
      1. Alexander Samoilov
        Alexander Samoilov 10 January 2022 00: 09
        -1
        Doesn't have. An acoustic signature on rifles like RPGs. You can make 2-3 shots (before dying).
        1. Peter rybak
          Peter rybak 15 January 2022 22: 30
          0
          Quote: Alexander Samoilov
          Doesn't have. An acoustic signature on rifles like RPGs. You can make 2-3 shots (before dying).

          You have specific numbers on the acoustic signature. Read, there is a lot of info about this screw in the internet.
  35. Alexander Samoilov
    Alexander Samoilov 10 January 2022 00: 05
    0
    Somehow they forgot to clarify that when firing, the cartridge case ejection window is constantly open. laughing
    1. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 15 January 2022 22: 28
      0
      Quote: Alexander Samoilov
      Somehow they forgot to clarify that when firing, the cartridge case ejection window is constantly open. laughing

      AND...
  36. zwlad
    zwlad 10 January 2022 02: 27
    -2
    Shpakovsky well, you give. This is how Bond was trolled!
    And according to the article - an interesting machine. I quickly fired 2-3 shots and knocked out of position.
  37. the47th
    the47th 10 January 2022 13: 02
    0
    Uh-huh, the best air defense in the world! Where are the Zushkas and Shilkas before her ?! Why do they write to each rifle under .50 that it "can shoot down helicopters"? Maybe if they lie.
    In fact, even the ancient and small Cobra AH-1S was protected from .50. In fact, all .50 caliber army rifles are lightweight ersatz machine guns of the same caliber, but without the ability to fire automatically. All those tasks that such rifles perform are much easier and more fun to perform with a machine gun.
  38. Illanatol
    Illanatol 10 January 2022 13: 43
    +2
    Quote: Konnick
    Into the air intakes. Even a bird can make a rustle there.


    Well, then we also had an "anti-material" sniper rifle capable of shooting down helicopters, even during the Second World War.
    Three-line or SVT-40 with a telescopic sight. soldier
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 10 January 2022 13: 53
      +2
      Well, then we also had an "anti-material" sniper rifle capable of shooting down helicopters, even during the Second World War.
      Three-line or SVT-40 with a telescopic sight

      The main thing is a loud headline. You can shoot down anything, only the difference in the probability of shooting down. In World War II, a dive bomber was shot down with a mortar. And my grandfather's brother-soldier shot down a Ju-87 from the PPSh and received the Order of the Red Banner of the Battle, back in the 41st.
    2. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 15 January 2022 22: 27
      0
      Quote: Illanatol
      Quote: Konnick
      Into the air intakes. Even a bird can make a rustle there.


      Well, then we also had an "anti-material" sniper rifle capable of shooting down helicopters, even during the Second World War.
      Three-line or SVT-40 with a telescopic sight. soldier

      And many helicopters were shot down in WWII?
  39. PAM
    PAM 10 January 2022 19: 19
    0
    I wonder what resource of shots
  40. Gunfighter95
    Gunfighter95 11 January 2022 13: 12
    0
    The British thought for a long time.
    The MTR of India (the former colony of Great Britain) turned out to be quicker ... wassat

    Yours faithfully,

  41. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 11 January 2022 15: 52
    0
    Lefties should not be allowed to approach this rifle :))
    For right-handers only
  42. Put__NIK
    Put__NIK 11 January 2022 16: 42
    0
    Exactly. If the helicopter is on the site.
  43. Dali
    Dali 11 January 2022 19: 15
    +1
    Wow .... laughing Mr. Shpakovsky turns out to be also a weapons expert ... laughing
    With rifles, combat helicopters decided that it was possible to shoot down ... so in WWII they shot down fighters from Mosin's rifles ... why do we need air defense, give us Hungarian rifles ... laughing

    Mr. Shpakovsky, were you paid by chance for advertising? belay
  44. Peter rybak
    Peter rybak 15 January 2022 22: 25
    0
    Well done Hungarians! The rifle is very good. I read a bunch of docs on it. And the British are not stupid. For 12500 Baku rubles to buy - just spit. But why 150 and not 1500? Again, the answer is on the surface. They will test it in combat or close to combat conditions and then decide what to do.
    At this point, local bots climbed with their comments that, they say, a weapon is not a weapon, and in general the British -.
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  46. Illanatol
    Illanatol 17 January 2022 14: 13
    0
    Quote: Peter Rybak

    And many helicopters were shot down in WWII?


    Approximately the same number as helicopters were shot down by this English karamultuk. laughing

    Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word "sarcasm" in the dictionary? hi