"Spanish Colts" - pistols "STAR"

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Repetition is the mother of learning, but also a refuge for lazy people.
Old Latin proverb

History firearms weapons. We often say that “ours” is better than someone else’s. Like, it is closer, more familiar and always at hand. But in technology, both "one's own" and "someone else's" concepts are very, very conditional. And even more so in the arms business. Everything that is good is copied without a twinge of conscience. However, not only in technology. This article, for example, will undoubtedly appear not only on VO, but will also be copied by many bloggers and site owners, because otherwise they would have to strain their heads and look for a replacement. That is - yes, any repetition is a real find for lazy and dumb people. Here are the Spanish pistols manufactured by Bonifacio Echeverria SA from Eibar, which has been producing weapons since 1908 - the best confirmation of this.

And it so happened that at the end of the XNUMXth century in the Spanish, or rather even the Basque city of Eibar, the gunsmith Jose Cruz Echeverria lived and worked, who was engaged in the production of muzzle-loading hunting weapons. Eibar, like the entire region, has long been a center for the production of weapons and such an occupation was traditional for its inhabitants. It is quite natural that his sons, Juan and Bonifacio, followed in the footsteps of their father.



Juan Echeverria, after leaving school in 1891, worked at the local arms factories, gaining experience. So, while working for Garate, Anitua y company, he participated in the development and production of the La Lira pistol, which was, in fact, a Mannlicher 1901 pistol, but chambered for 7,65 mm Browning. He also participated in the development of the Campo Giro pistol at the firm of Juan Victor Mendizabal.

Around 1905, Juan Echeverria decided that he was quite ripe for an independent business and, together with his younger brother, created the company Bonifacio Echeverria SA.

Quite naturally, the experience gained was used and the first pistols of the newly created company were based on the Mannlicher design. However, they were copied wisely, so the Austrian gunsmith failed to sue his Spanish colleague. That is, yes, they were similar, but ... not identical. Bonifacio Echeverria registered the "Star" trademark only in 1919, but still, pistols with this name appeared in Spain. And the emblem on them was appropriate - a star with diverging rays.

"Spanish Colts" - pistols "STAR"
Pistol Star Model B chambered for 9mm Parabellum cartridges. Photo by the author

In 1912, Juan Echeverria left the family business and became director of the Guernica Armory School.
Bonifacio Echeverria remained the owner of the company and at the same time its chief designer. And as the chief designer and owner, he did what he wanted, and he was primarily engaged in copying successful samples of pistols that he personally liked, albeit with some additions from himself. So in 1920, another "star" was born on the model of the American "Colt" М1911. After that the company "Echeverría and Kº" became a very famous company, one of four that operated in Spain both during and after the civil war. Star Bonifacio Echeverria, SA existed until 1997. The end of the 90s was far from the best for the Spanish arms industry, so many firms, including the small arms manufacturers Star, Astra and CETME, ceased to exist. Star and Astra merged and created the ASTAR company, which still exists today. But back to history.


This is how it all began. Steyr-Mannlicher pistol, commercial model 1905. Photo www.littlegun.be

We will begin to get acquainted with Star pistols from 1908, although this pistol itself appeared at the end of 1907. His barrel was motionless, the casing-bolt had ribbed washers for the fingers: that's why they say about him that it is a copy of a Mannlicher pistol.

The open trigger added a little more resemblance, but it ended there, because the "Mannlicher" had a thin curved handle, and the "Star" received a thick "chopped" and differently shaped trigger. Only the Austrian pistol was loaded with a cartridge pack, and the "star" had a replaceable magazine with a spring and an ammunition load of eight 6,35 mm rounds. The inscription on the casing AUTOMATIC PISTOL STAR PATENT indicates the presence of a patent, and the cheeks of the handle made of solid rubber have a checkered notch. The length of the pistol was 115 mm. Empty weight: 445 g.


Model 1914. As you can see, this is essentially half of the Mannlicher, but with a new handle! Photo www.littlegun.be

In 1914, two models of the Star pistol of 6,35 and 7,65 mm caliber appeared at once, differing from the previous model only in details. It was then that a six-pointed star with diverging rays appeared on it, which became the trademark of the company. The pistol was 175 mm long. Weight 850 g without cartridges. The barrel was 112 mm long. Magazine capacity is eight rounds.




And this is his disassembly. Photo www.littlegun.be

The pistol "Star" of 1919 was disassembled in a slightly different way. In the first pistols, the shutter-casing could be separated by pressing on the notched pin in front of the trigger guard, but this one was held by a special latch in the same place.


Pistol "Star" 1919, caliber 7,65 mm. Photo www.littlegun.be

Pistols of 1919 were produced for the use of 6,35 and 7,65 mm "auto" cartridges, and also under 9 mm "short" cartridge, and all the barrels had different lengths to choose from. The inscription on the bolt cover was also different: B. ECHEVERRIA EI BAR (ESPANA).

In 1920, the company released a specially military pistol, which was called the Model Militar - something transitional from the Mannlicher to the Colt Browning pistols. Made on the basis of the American "Colt" М1911 caliber .45, it had the same "Browning earring", that is, the same barrel locking system with it. Although there was no frame safety on the Spanish pistol. And the handle is more chopped up.

The design of the casing-shutter was noticeably different in that the back of it was slightly raised and had two corrugated "pills" for the fingers. The fuse box was traditionally located on the left, and a recess was provided for its downward movement on the shutter casing.

The cartridges were to be used in the 9mm Largo (Bergman Bayard) caliber, since they were used in the Spanish army. However, the military chose not this pistol, but the "astra", and Echeverria decided to put this model on commercial sale, respectively supplementing with modifications chambered for .38 "super" and .45 ACP calibers. The pistol turned out to be 200 mm long and 122 mm long. Empty weight 1100 g. The magazine could load eight rounds.

Well, the model of the pistol "Star" model MMC ("military civilian model"), which appeared a year later, was designed for firing cartridges 7,63 × 25 Mauser, but looked almost like a real Colt: with the same casing on which there were vertical notches for the fingers.


MMC model chambered for 7,63 × 25 Mauser cartridges. Photo www.littlegun.be


Valve body markings. Photo www.littlegun.be


Type of pistol "Star" MMC model with a holster-butt. Photo www.littlegun.be


The same pistol when the bolt is pulled back. Photo www.littlegun.be

In addition to the Mauser cartridges "Model 1921", it was produced under the 9-mm cartridge "Largo" and .45 ACP. Some pistols had grooves on the rear end of the grip for attaching the butt holster. At first, there was no handle guard, but it was decided to install it on later samples, moreover, of a large length, almost equal to the length of the entire rear of the handle.

It is interesting that for some reason this model became very popular with the so-called "Seville Guard", where it entered service in October 1922. On the casing-bolt of such pistols there is a mark: BONIFACIO ECHEVERRIA above the words EIBAR (ESPANA), then a six-pointed star and the name "STAR" CAL .9M / M. Belonging to the Seville Guard was indicated by the letters GC under the royal crown. It is desirable to remember this for everyone who either makes a movie about the Spanish Civil War, or writes a novel where their heroes use a pistol. It would be best then to take the "Star", especially if the guardsman from the "Guard Seville" should shoot in the course of action.


Pistol model "Star" (Model B). Perhaps he was the most convenient in the family of "old". In addition, he had a magazine for nine rounds, not eight or seven. This pistol appeared after 1926 and looked even more like a Colt, especially in the shape of its grip, and in general appearance. The pistol was supposed to use powerful 9mm Parabellum cartridges. Photo by the author

All the time while the Spanish Civil War was going on, it was produced continuously, and in 1941-1944. more than 35 units were also bought by the Wehrmacht, their own pistols were not enough throughout the war. So outside of Spain, this pistol fought. Possibly met on the Eastern Front. They stopped producing this model only around 000. Overall length 1984 mm, barrel length 215 mm. Empty weight: 122 g.


Model "Super-B" chambered for the 9-mm cartridge "Largo". Photo www.littlegun.be


Its designation is on the shutter casing. Photo www.littlegun.be

In 1946, another model was born: the Model Super B, in which the Browning earring was replaced by the Browning protrusion. And - about joy! In the same year, this pistol was finally adopted by the Spanish army. Which is not surprising at all. After all, it was lighter, but had a magazine for nine rounds, and thanks to the "Parabellum" cartridge, albeit with a smaller caliber, it had an excellent stopping effect. The fact that their pistols are similar to American ones, like twin brothers, did not bother the Spanish military personnel at all - after all, the main thing in a weapon is that it is comfortable and fired well. And is it a copy or an original ... but who cares ?!

Then a commercial model BM appeared - one of the smallest pistols with a coupled bolt chambered for the 9-mm Parabellum cartridge.


Pistol "Star" caliber 6,35 mm. Along with the 7,63-mm caliber samples, the favorite pistol of the anarcho-syndicalists of Barcelona and Zaragoza. Photo www.littlegun.be


Disassembled pistol "Star" of 6,35 mm caliber. Photo www.littlegun.be


The frame of this pistol. Photo www.littlegun.be


And this is how the "Star" Model B looks in the hand of ... a left-hander. And its dimensions are quite acceptable, as are the weight and coverage. A rectangular cutout is visible on the trigger, but you don't need to pay attention to it: it was made exclusively to bring the pistol into a non-combat state. The combat samples do not have such a cutout. Photo by the author

The frame of the BCS model was made of light alloy, so it turned out to be the lightest among the "old". Then the BKM model appeared, differing in finish. She had notches for fingers on the casing of the shutter were inclined, while the previous one was vertical. But, be that as it may, models A and B are considered to be the main success of the company "Echeverria". No wonder they have become very widespread, and not only in Spain. Experts note their reliability, high quality workmanship and coating, and, which is very important for short-barreled weapons, high accuracy. The 9mm pistol fits comfortably in the hand, unlike its American counterpart, which is not suitable for every hand! So although this is a copy, it is very good!
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  1. +5
    4 January 2022 05: 12
    I saw an old Star at a collector in Israel. I don’t remember exactly which one, but they showed it to me with pride)).
    1. +4
      4 January 2022 06: 51
      Krasnodar hi -you separately, while the working day has just had enough, and the bosses are absent, and there is a couple of minutes to your favorite site, I wish you Happy New Year, Old New Year, Merry Christmas, your Easter (Passover), our usual Easter !!! good Until then !!! wassat drinks
      1. +9
        4 January 2022 07: 17
        Happy holidays, fulfillment of all desires, a bunch of 19-year-old girls and whiskers at least two years older! drinks
  2. +5
    4 January 2022 06: 53
    Vyacheslav hi their pistols all look like they were whipped with an ax, out of an armored field, the design is still the same! And, for the article, as always, THANKS !!! hi
    1. +9
      4 January 2022 07: 58
      I agree, the same Spanish Asters are much more elegant, but let's not get ahead of the Author!
      Vyacheslav Olegovich thanks for the article!
      1. AUL
        +2
        4 January 2022 09: 23
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        the same Spanish Asters are much more elegant,

        EMNIP, Hemingway in "Farewell to Arms" wrote about Astra that when she fired her barrel jumped so much that no one even tried to hit her target.
        1. AUL
          0
          9 January 2022 23: 01
          Those professional minusers who have noted under my post about "Astra".
          We were also ordered to carry a pistol, even doctors and medical officers. I felt him pressed against the back of the chair. If you did not wear it in a conspicuous place, you were threatened with arrest. Rinaldi stuffed the holster with toilet paper. I carried a weapon and felt like a real soldier until I practiced shooting. It was an Astra 7,65 caliber with a short barrel and such recoil that it was unrealistic to hit the target. I tried to bring the sight under the target and at least somehow control the prancing stupid barrel, but all I achieved was to hit a meter from the target, shooting from twenty steps, and then, realizing the pointlessness of carrying a weapon, I forgot about it, it it just dangled on my lower back, and I felt nothing but a vague shame when meeting those who spoke my native language.
          Hemingway "Farewell to Arms" Chapter 6
          Read more books and think about everything! (C) wink
      2. +6
        4 January 2022 10: 40
        I join your words of gratitude to the author.
        In general, I only learned today that weapons were made in Spain!
        1. +6
          4 January 2022 11: 52
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          In general, I only learned today that weapons were made in Spain!

          We did a lot! And what a good ...
          1. +3
            4 January 2022 13: 00
            Vyacheslav, good afternoon and thank you! smile

            A few words and a photo about the sports model of this company.
            The pistol "Star" of the F series appeared in 1932. In 1942 the series was modernized, and the production of the second series began. This .22 LR pistol was intended for target shooting.

        2. -1
          6 January 2022 00: 41
          We did. You simply could not help but hear about the Spanish company "Astra", and, in particular, its model Astra 900, which is the Spanish version of the famous Mauser C96. These pistols (Asters) were supplied even to the USSR.
  3. +10
    4 January 2022 06: 57
    hi
    A couple of interesting stars

    And this Star belonged to the artist
    1. +3
      4 January 2022 07: 17
      Does it belong to you now? ))
      1. +11
        4 January 2022 07: 24
        No, to the museum recourse
        Gift of Juan Garces Espinosa to El Museo Naval de Madrid.
        1. +11
          4 January 2022 08: 10
          Quote: Wildcat
          No, to the museum
          Gift of Juan Garces Espinosa to El Museo Naval de Madrid.

          Beautiful photo. It’s a pity I didn’t come across earlier. However, an article has already been written about another ... well-known pistol. There are a couple of anniversary models! Beauty!
          1. +4
            4 January 2022 09: 09
            Thank you for the article. Kvk always read with pleasure.
            I would like a little about the combat characteristics of the weapon. I understand that it is difficult ... but still they make pistols so that they can shoot ... especially since the ammunition is so peculiar, 9 mm. Largo. What is his energy?
            1. +8
              4 January 2022 09: 27
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              I would like a little about the combat characteristics of the weapon.

              Me too! But ... everything is like Newton's law: you win in strength, you lose in distance. There are problems with sources of information. In some - a story without performance characteristics. In other performance characteristics without history. In some photos that I can use, in others I cannot. All this is such porridge that it is very difficult ... to understand it. And the data is not all over the place. And ... ammunition separately, pistols separately ... To cram into one article ... is simply unrealistic, and not readable.
              1. +4
                4 January 2022 18: 29
                Me too! But ... everything is like Newton's law: you win in strength, lose in distance.

                A small correction: this is the "golden rule" of mechanics, Newton is not an author here, but an ordinary user smile
        2. +3
          4 January 2022 09: 32
          And I thought about another artist.
  4. +10
    4 January 2022 09: 18
    Here are the Spanish pistols manufactured by Bonifacio Echeverria SA from Eibar, which has been producing weapons since 1908

    To be precise, since 1906. And until 1997, she produced about 50 models of pistols only.
  5. +7
    4 January 2022 09: 25
    I have Star B. Great pistol for its time.
  6. +8
    4 January 2022 10: 20
    Well, the Spaniards are still "rascals"! What they just didn’t copy! I heard that after the war they produced and used Junkers-52 with might and main!

    Star is also known for having copied the MP-40 submachine gun and released it like the Star Z-45 PP ...


    And about the "Spanish Colt" there is a vidosik ... not so hot, but still ...
    1. +7
      4 January 2022 12: 35
      Volodya, hello! hi
      ! What they just didn’t copy!

      Star Z-70 - Doesn't Look Like Anything?

      "Star" Zet-84, this one also resembles someone.))
      1. +4
        4 January 2022 17: 15
        Hi Kostya! I'll be healthy! Remind something reminds! In the "list" "Star" there should still be Z-62 and SI-35 ... And I also remember the story of how a certain uncle escaped from Finland with the drawings of the Finnish PP M44, which the Finns "licked" from the PP Sudaev, but at 9 mm cartridge ... and managed to come to an agreement in Spain at one of the arms companies on the production of PP under the name DUX-53 ... I say, "rascals"!
        1. +3
          4 January 2022 17: 59
          Yes, I remember the story of the DUX-53, they were armed with the FRG border guards.
          1. +2
            4 January 2022 18: 24
            Take a look at SEAT 124.
            The plant was under the leadership of FIAT and it is rumored that the cunning Italians introduced the changes introduced by Soviet designers in the product of the SEAT plant when the VAZ 2101 was put on the conveyor!
    2. Mwg
      +3
      4 January 2022 16: 23
      Not only shooters are copied, but also SUVs. Unimog, for example.
      But the essence is this: everything that is effective must be taken ...
      ))))))))))))))))))))
    3. 0
      4 January 2022 20: 04
      Heinkel N-111 they did.
      CASA 2-111.
      They were used during the filming of the movie "Battle of England"!
      Many Spanish cars in museums "play" the role of German cars!
  7. +10
    4 January 2022 10: 22
    In 1914, two models of the Star pistol of 6,35 and 7,65 mm caliber appeared at once, differing from the previous model only in details. It was then that a six-pointed star with diverging rays appeared on it, which became the trademark of the company.

    No, not here, although most publications indicate this particular year. For the sake of fairness, I must note that this question is rather complicated, I had to dig in and before the article was published, I did not have time to figure it out. So, the six-pointed star with diverging rays, which has become the company's trademark, appeared for the first time on Pistol, Star, Mod. 1908, Cal. 6.35mm
    1. +6
      4 January 2022 11: 54
      Quote: Undecim
      the six-pointed star with diverging rays, which has become a trademark of the company, appeared for the first time on Pistol, Star, Mod. 1908, Cal. 6.35mm

      ++++++++++++++++++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
  8. +2
    4 January 2022 13: 12
    Now, thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich, I will know that the Spaniards, it turns out, also did something Yes
    Aesthetics, in my opinion, are none of the Spanish creations.
    1. +1
      4 January 2022 21: 31
      You know, Eugene, it's like in the song: "what has sprouted, it has taken root." For a long time I was looking for a pistol "by hand" ... It is a pity sometimes that the Spanish "asters" came to me later than CZ-75 ... But I am Monogamous.
      1. +1
        4 January 2022 21: 39
        As I understand it, I'm the only one here, such a "pacifist" laughing
        I have never held a pistol in my hands ...
        1. +2
          4 January 2022 21: 49
          I remember a phrase from a children's book: "I was not a sea pirate ... I was a lion tamer!"
          1. +1
            4 January 2022 21: 55
            Oh yes, yes! I forgot ...
            From the machine gun TWICE shot fool
            It certainly attracts the lion tamer wink
            1. +1
              4 January 2022 22: 00
              Hammer and do not engage in self-deprecation (I will not tolerate competition, because I am the miserable here!)
              1. 0
                4 January 2022 23: 07
                Come on...
                I just stated the fact good
                I do not have the slightest feeling of shame about this.
                I had all sorts of other "tests" ...
                1. +1
                  4 January 2022 23: 11
                  This is normal.
                  "Each time has its own orders" (C)
              2. -1
                5 January 2022 01: 21
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                (I will not tolerate competition, because I am the miserable here!)

                Megalomania? Suffering or enjoying? wassat drinks 7-8 years ago, the Second Gang of Marshals winked Where are my years ... sad
                1. 0
                  5 January 2022 07: 41
                  Megalomania? Suffering or enjoying?
                  I'm making fun.
                  1. 0
                    5 January 2022 22: 32
                    Quote: 3x3zsave
                    I'm making fun.

                    The last of the Mohicans ... but my strength is not the same request I want mostly obscenities
                    1. 0
                      5 January 2022 22: 40
                      You did not manage to understand in time that the resource forum is a fair show, in half with a psychiatric clinic.
                      1. 0
                        5 January 2022 22: 44
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        resource forum - yarmorchny booth, in half with a psychiatric clinic.

                        No. Almost immediately I butted with Vadim until ... in general, to the brink of departure Moderators saved friends since Apollo, his blessed memory And then we became the media with all that it implies
                      2. 0
                        5 January 2022 22: 49
                        It's useless to butt Smirnov, it's not "fido".
                      3. 0
                        5 January 2022 22: 53
                        Surprisingly, it worked out And even sent complainants to the ban many times. what
                      4. 0
                        5 January 2022 23: 00
                        Well, it happens ...
                        I talked with "Stroporez" ...
                        Meet the new "topwar" command in the "history" section!
                      5. +1
                        5 January 2022 23: 21
                        Yes, I know your company bully Sometimes I tease Phil Yes Esposito room wassat We both love and remember good hockey
                      6. 0
                        5 January 2022 23: 32
                        Yes, I know your company
                        I don't think you know
                      7. -1
                        5 January 2022 23: 35
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        do not know

                        what Purkua his mother na? I read regularly Yes For the fact that he called Shpakovsky the husband of the writer's daughter otryob 2 before And I follow St. Petersburg's movements especially since I myself am sitting on Vaska ...
  9. +5
    4 January 2022 13: 14
    Entered ...
    It smells like gunpowder. Having dispersed the smoke with my hand, I saw those present. Oh, honest mother! Vyacheslav Olegovich is all in tears - the plagiarists got it! Holding out a handkerchief to the exhausted Author, I hasten to console him: "I typed Spanish pistols in a search engine, and there is your article, Vyacheslav Olegovich, on behalf of topwar."
    Good afternoon, dear colleagues! Are we shooting? wassat )))
    1. +1
      4 January 2022 21: 37
      It smells like gunpowder.
      Mostly gun oil. For "holding in hands" and "using" are two big differences.
      1. +2
        4 January 2022 21: 59
        I held it and seemed to shoot)))
        1. +2
          4 January 2022 22: 02
          Yes. Like a porn site ...
          1. +2
            4 January 2022 22: 16
            Anton, fu on you, ohalnik! )))
            1. +1
              4 January 2022 22: 27
              Azokhen wei, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! Right this very second I will go to the monastery, to the harsh schema! On one condition ...
              1. +1
                4 January 2022 23: 11
                Here it is ...
                From pistols to a monastery ...
                What will it be like "Azohen Way"?
                So to speak, in the language of native aspens?
                1. +1
                  4 January 2022 23: 18
                  1. This is Hebrew.
                  2. I will not despair to translate into the language of my native aspens, they will be banned!
                  1. +2
                    4 January 2022 23: 21
                    Yeah, that is, the whole calculation is that the moderators are not in the know?
                    What if there are people "with roots" from there?
                    Then visit Phil? drinks
                    1. +2
                      4 January 2022 23: 32
                      Oh, this household conspiracy theories.
                      "Raise my eyelids, let them say,
                      What happens when there is too little in the blood
                      Silver !!!!
  10. +6
    4 January 2022 16: 02
    Due to the lack of their own pistols, the Germans also bought Astra pistols, nevertheless noting both the advantages of this pistol (reliability, simplicity, unpretentious maintenance) and disadvantages. However, according to the Germans, the only significant drawback inherent in all models of weapons of this family is the lack of an indicator of the presence of a cartridge in the chamber. With a hidden trigger, the absence of a pointer made handling the weapon unsafe, which, however, was compensated by the presence of an automatic safety device. But the compensation was not complete, because, one must think, the head was not always sober wassat )))
    1. +6
      4 January 2022 19: 57
      Due to the lack of their own pistols, the Germans also bought Astra pistols, nevertheless noting both the advantages of this pistol (reliability, simplicity, unpretentious maintenance) and disadvantages.

      The Germans generally broom themselves with a broom. All trophy (good!) Were assigned their own indices. And if production areas were seized, then they were released.
      1. +5
        4 January 2022 20: 16
        Good evening, Nikolai! )))
        Well, as far as I know, the Germans did not get to the Spanish production sites.
        1. +2
          4 January 2022 21: 44
          And the German needed Spanish "lands"?
          Caudillo Franco was indebted to them anyway. And the Spanish arms industry made a fortune on German orders. Who would they sell 173828 pistols from the SEVEN models?
          And the cartridges ...
          Plus supplies of South American platinum and industrial diamonds !!!
          1. +3
            4 January 2022 22: 09
            And the German needed Spanish "lands"?

            The way you don't put a smiley, everything starts to be understood literally. This humor was so dark wassat )))
            1. +1
              4 January 2022 22: 27
              No kidding - in 1940 Spain earned $ 280 on the export of tungsten ore, and in 000 $ 1944!
              More total income from iron ore, mercury, oranges and olives !!!
              To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear ...
      2. +2
        4 January 2022 21: 49
        Even 60 thousand "Steyr M.1912" were put into action.
        And they reworked them under 9x19 Pair.
    2. +3
      4 January 2022 21: 50
      However, according to the Germans, the only significant drawback inherent in all models of weapons of this family is the lack of an indicator of the presence of a cartridge in the chamber. With a hidden trigger, the absence of a pointer made handling the weapon unsafe, which, however, was compensated by the presence of an automatic safety device.

      Luda hi with all the desire I could not find a single model of the pistol "Star" with a hidden trigger, as well as with an automatic safety lock. request
      1. +3
        4 January 2022 22: 00
        They wrote about the "Astra"!
        Models 200, 300, 400, 600.
        Plus the Spanish "Mauser" - 900 and 903.
      2. +2
        4 January 2022 22: 06
        Kostya ... hi )))
        All branches of the Spanish Armed Forces, including the Army, Navy and Air Force, adopted the Astra 400 model as a standard pistol, which in principle was a modification of the Campo-Giro. The most significant difference was the design of the trigger - the Astra 400 pistol became a closed type. This pistol was in service in Spain until the end of World War II.
        1. +3
          4 January 2022 22: 19
          Well, this is Astra, then there are no questions.))

          It just seemed to me that Star got into the same company, "hammerless". smile drinks
          1. +3
            4 January 2022 22: 22
            I tried to restrain myself, but still escaped: "The sailors have no questions!" wassat )))
            1. +2
              4 January 2022 22: 38
              You should not restrain yourself, especially since I was in a hurry and buried only at the end of the quote. I beg your pardon! drinks
              1. +3
                4 January 2022 23: 22
                Kostya, as always, was delighted!
                Thank you! wink )))
  11. Mwg
    +1
    4 January 2022 16: 21
    Colt 1911 cal. 45 steers from that time to now !!!!
  12. Mwg
    +3
    4 January 2022 16: 24
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, respect and respect. Now I am entirely for you - no politics, no historical accuracy - yes!
  13. +3
    4 January 2022 17: 54
    The pistol Steyer-Mannlicher Mod. 1905 is a beauty.
  14. 0
    6 January 2022 20: 44
    "Pistols" I invite "to visit" in the next section "trample" on my article about a conceptually new principle of a pistol https://topwar.ru/190569-koncepcija-pistoleta-vzgljad-v-novom-rakurse.html
    Here someone has already "flashed" in this field.))
    There is where to crush with erudition good )))
  15. 0
    7 January 2022 23: 20
    An interesting pistol Star Model A (7,63x25), when tested for penetration, surpassed all tested pistols, including TT.
    https://kalashnikov.media/article/weapons/otchet-strelkovogo-poligona-pistolety-i-pistolety-pulemety-chast-1


    The Astra 400 model not only had a breechblock locking scheme, but had a chamber that allowed shooting almost all 9 mm cartridges, 9x23 mm Bergmann-Bayard, 9x19 mm Parabellum and 9x22 mm Browning Long.