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Heavy UAV Manufacturing Bayraktar Akıncı: Progress and Potential Challenges

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In 2018, the Turkish aircraft manufacturer Baykar presented its promising project of the Bayraktar Akıncı heavy reconnaissance and strike drone for the first time. In December 2019, an experienced UAV of this type took off for the first time, and flight tests continued until the summer of 2021. On August 29 this year, the first unmanned complex was adopted for service. Now the development company is mastering the full-scale production of new equipment and is preparing to receive lucrative orders.


Technical features


The goal of the Akinji project was to create a new UAV with reconnaissance and strike capabilities, characterized by improved flight performance and a relatively large payload. In addition, the project provided for a reduction in the number and share of imported components to the minimum required. In the early stages, they planned to do only with Turkish-made products, but in the end they still had to look for foreign partners.

Bayraktar Akıncı is an aircraft of normal aerodynamic design with a small swept gull wing. The engine nacelles are located in the wing breaks. The tail assembly is traditional, with a swept stabilizer and a keel. The design of the UAV allows the placement of target equipment and weapons inside the fuselage and on the external sling under the wing. Composite materials are widely used in the airframe design.


The first version of the project proposed the use of Turkish-made turbodiesel engines, but the selected products showed insufficient technical characteristics. In this regard, in 2018-19. the company "Baykar" began cooperation with the Ukrainian "Ivchenko-Progress", which offered turboprop engines AI-450T. These products have a take-off power of 450 hp. (no more than 350 hp in continuous operation) and are used in conjunction with five-blade constant speed propellers.

The length of the drone reaches 12,2 m, the wingspan is 20 m. The maximum take-off weight is 5,5 tons. Of these, up to 1350 kg is the payload. Equipment weighing up to 450 kg can be installed inside the airframe; suspended under the wing up to 900 kg weapons... The UAV has a maximum speed of 360 km / h at a cruising speed of 240 km / h. Range - 7500 km, ceiling - more than 12 km. The flight duration is over 24 hours.

To search for targets and use weapons, an optoelectronic "ball" and radar with AFAR are used. A modern digital control system was also applied, allegedly with elements of artificial intelligence. According to the developer, all the avionics of the new UAV are of Turkish origin. "Akinci" has six suspension points under the fuselage and wing, which can accommodate a variety of missiles and bombs, which are in service with the Turkish Air Force.

Production start


The first reports of the existence of the Akıncı project in 2018 were illustrated with a photograph from the assembly shop. It captured the fuselage of the first experimental UAV against the background of the assembled vehicles of the previous model TB2. As it became known later, the first experimental drone of the new model received the working designation PT-1. The assembly of this machine was completed in 2019, after which it was transferred to ground and flight tests.


In 2019-20. Baykar built two more prototypes. Products PT-2 and PT-3 began test flights in 2020. How much these machines resembled the first prototype is unknown. It can be assumed that they were built according to a revised design, modified taking into account the development and testing experience of the previous PT-1. In addition, the second or third prototype could become the benchmark for the subsequent series.

To date, the Turkish Air Force has issued an order to the developer for the serial production and supply of new Bayraktar Akıncı. The scope and cost of this agreement remains unknown, but implementation has already begun.

So, last year, the Baykar company started building the first serial UAV with the S-1 number. In May 2021, this device took off for the first time. After short factory tests, it was handed over to the customer. On August 29, the S-1 was put into service, which officially launched the operation of the new "Akinji".

According to the latest reports, serial UAVs S-2 and S-3 are already at the stage of factory tests. The second unit of the series has been flying since the end of September, and the third took off in mid-October. In the coming weeks or months, they will pass all the necessary checks and will be handed over to the customer. Apparently, serial production will not end there, and new samples will be released for flight tests in the near future.


Reportedly, the production of new equipment and components for it is carried out mainly by Turkish enterprises. In particular, all onboard electronics are of local origin - unlike the TB2 UAV, the release of which has recently been under threat. The dependence on imported engines also remains.

Engine issue


Despite all efforts, Turkish industry has not yet succeeded in developing aviation motor with the required parameters. In this regard, experimental and serial Akıncı are still equipped with a Ukrainian-made power plant. Moreover, this situation will persist for the next several years and lead to known risks.

The first Turkish-Ukrainian agreement of 2018 provided for the supply of 20 AI-450T engines. In the year the contract was signed, the first four engines were sent to the customer, six more were delivered in 2019, and the remaining 2020 were shipped in 10. Using the ordered engines, Baykar could build up to 10 new drones. Six UAVs, experienced and serial, have already been manufactured and are flying, and there are still four sets of engines in stock.

At the end of October, the Zaporozhye motor-building design bureau "Progress" them. Ivchenko ordered components for the manufacture of 30 AI-450T engines from Motor Sich. Products with a total value of more than $ 7 million must be delivered by the end of 2022.


The objectives of such an order are obvious. From the supplied parts, Ivchenko-Progress will assemble new theaters to be handed over to Turkish partners. Accordingly, Baykar will be able to build 15 more UAVs - or less, but with the creation of a stock of engines.

Successes and challenges


Baykar, in cooperation with local and foreign enterprises, was able to develop, test and bring to serial production a promising heavy UAV with high performance. However, the assembly of serial equipment began recently and is not yet distinguished by high topics. In addition, there are potential sources of serious problems in these processes.

So far, the "Baykar" company is building new "Akinci" only for the Turkish Air Force, and the exact needs of the Turkish army for such equipment are unknown. Existing agreements with Ukraine show that up to 22 serial UAVs can be built in the coming years, including three ready-made ones. Depending on the rate of production, they will be built no earlier than 2023-24. - and in the absence of problems with the supply of Ukrainian components.

The development company plans to bring its heavy UAV to the international market. Interest has been reported from some potential customers, but no actual negotiations are known. There are no contracts yet, and the timing of their appearance is in question. Perhaps the first export information will appear in the very near future.


Overall, Baykar has a right to be optimistic, but risks remain. Despite all the successes in the development of our own components, it has not yet been possible to create an engine with the required characteristics and it has to be purchased abroad. At the same time, Ukraine was chosen as the supplier, which is a very specific partner for international cooperation. It is not known whether the Ukrainian side will be able to fulfill all orders for engines on time and with high quality.

Thus, the newest UAV Bayraktar Akıncı has been successfully brought to mass production and put into service. Production is still going on at a limited pace, and in addition, it seriously depends on imported components. Time will tell whether it will be possible to increase the pace of construction and get rid of foreign engines.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 November 2021 18: 13
    +12
    He is beautiful.
    Well, really, a beautiful aircraft.
    Difficulties in mastering the series, of course, will arise. Personally, I do not know a weapon or weapon system that immediately became ideal in all respects.
    To nod to Ukraine? Can. Although it is clear from the news that they are coping. Further from the thought that some fantastic orders for thousands of motors will follow.
    A UAV is promising. Turks, whatever you say, well done ...
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 23 November 2021 18: 25
      +7
      Best advertisement for this UAV:
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 25 November 2021 10: 20
        +2
        advertising this UAV
        Leave the corpses of unbelievers on their accursed land:

        Force the enemy to kiss the sand:
    2. knn54
      knn54 23 November 2021 20: 06
      +6
      - for the manufacture of 30 AI-450T engines.
      The ceiling of 12 km at maximum load will be obtained with the 750-horsepower MS-500 from Motor Sich. The Thor will not reach it.
      Remains "Shell C1". But the range of the complex is 20 km.
      And the UAV has in its arsenal a high-precision gliding bomb MAM-T with a range of more than 30 km.
      1. KCA
        KCA 24 November 2021 00: 40
        0
        The MIG-25 reached a maximum flight altitude of more than 37 km, but this does not mean that the MIG-25RB could carry out bombing from such a height, from which there is confidence that Akinchi's maximum flight altitude is equal to the altitude of the use of high-precision weapons, especially free-falling bombs, which, by the way , and Thor and Carapace will spot and shoot down without any problems
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton 24 November 2021 02: 01
          +4
          1. The MiG-25RB was technologically limited by the characteristics of the sighting system and the means of destruction used, do not forget that this is an aircraft from the 1970s and even on Soviet electronics (therefore, you can forget about integrated circuits and any sane performance / miniaturization).

          2. The height of the use of high-precision weapons is limited only by the sighting system, which gives out the CU and, again, by the characteristics of the ammunition.
          MAM-T is not a free-fall, but a guided gliding bomb, for guidance there is an advanced OELS and radar with AFAR, which can build maps of the terrain in real time (now not every strategist / bomber / fighter-bomber can boast of this, let alone a MiG- 25RB).

          3. To be able and to bet on intercepting the means of destruction, and not the carrier itself, is a deliberately losing tactic, especially when the bomb to be dropped costs $ 50-80-100k, and the prices for missiles start from 300-500k + $, depending on the version of the Patsir /Torah.
          Plus, gliding bombs are still complex targets, for the destruction of which more than one missile defense system may be required, this must also be taken into account.
          In such conditions, air defense systems find themselves in a very, very disadvantageous position, and this is if you do not take into account that more than one UAV can participate in the attack, and each will drop 6-12 such bombs.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 25 November 2021 10: 25
            0
            that this is an aircraft of the 1970s and even on Soviet electronics (hence, you can forget about integrated circuits and any sane performance / miniaturization).
            Directly, it was not:
            They landed on Venus in the machine, and there the integration of avionics was high for that time and the mass-dimensional restrictions on an automatic station with a narrow energy range onboard, no one else could repeat, in those years and after already ...!?
            Who has the record for automatic docking in orbit ???
            1. Holgerton
              Holgerton 25 November 2021 23: 57
              0
              All the same, it was probably not the MiG-25RB that landed on Venus.
              IP in the USSR was only in its infancy at that time and was far from perfect.
              Plus, don't confuse the early and late Venus spacecraft.
              Success just started
              when switching to new transistors and ICs, which was much later than the start of the development of the MiG-25RB, so yes, the MiG-25RB was and remains in history as a good scout and premature bomber (read about combat use).
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 26 November 2021 12: 33
                0
                All the same, it was probably not the MiG-25RB that landed on Venus.
                and could not, after all, the appointment is something else !?
                IP in the USSR was only in its infancy at that time and was far from perfect.
                For their tasks, quite at the level, not talking about consumer electronics, but "space" and "aviation" were quite successful, there were products for years ... they made then, he was friends for almost two years, on lonely winter evenings from the digital computer A-15, even the pictures remained from those times, for a long memory, how long we went with her ... eh !!! hi
      2. stankow
        stankow 28 November 2021 20: 47
        -3
        The ceiling is measured with a minimum of fuel and no load. The engine will not help much - the issue of the lifting force of the cruise. With weapons, it is unlikely to rise above 2500 m.Even how will they get it ...
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton 30 November 2021 00: 54
          +1
          With max. the test load was 9900+ m, this was one of the last test flights.

          And even if there were no reliable data from the tests, then your 2500 m would seem very underestimated.
    3. Intruder
      Intruder 25 November 2021 10: 16
      +1
      He is beautiful.
      Well, really, a beautiful aircraft.
      Like many things among the Ottomans, still the breath of the East!
      By the way, at one time they made a very successful throwing weapon, in the past centuries ... so, I remembered.
      Difficulties in mastering the series, of course, will arise. Personally, I do not know a weapon or weapon system that immediately became ideal in all respects.
      Taking into account their scientific potential over the past 20 years ... not surprising!
      A UAV is promising. Turks, whatever you say, well done ...
      Soon they will roll out with a turbojet engine, the killer of screw birds ... fellow
    4. stankow
      stankow 28 November 2021 20: 40
      -1
      Beautiful. But wobbly. And fragile.
  2. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 23 November 2021 18: 33
    -7
    The Turks ordered 30 engines, but Kuev is Kuev, tomorrow a team will arrive from the Washington Reich Chancellery and ffsssёёёё)))) neither engines, nor spare parts, to those already supplied.
    1. Holgerton
      Holgerton 24 November 2021 02: 13
      0
      Yes, keep in touch (we will not remember your past unfulfilled predictions for Akinci), Washington listens to you attentively and appreciates your naivety))
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 24 November 2021 12: 56
        -1
        Initially, they were going to put a type of Turkish engine there - it did not grow together. To "bayraktar" Austrian engines are all too))) with what forecast I was wrong? As for Kuev, I will not even argue))) the President of Banderland is Christina Queen, Zenelokh is a clown with her.
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton 25 November 2021 23: 34
          +3
          So you have already stated more than once that:
          1. No Ukrainian engines will be installed, since there are none.
          2. The United States will be banned.
          3. Will be limited to the supply of 10 engines.
          4. To me, on a document with bmpd for 20 engines, they said that it was a "myth".
          5. The US will be banned again.
          6. Ukrainian engines in flight, as they are already making their own.
          7. And now the US is banning it again.

          There is, as it were, a reason to doubt your competence))

          In bmpd, on the contrary, they believe that no one will prohibit anything, since the United States is more profitable than a failure to heat up the situation in the region for Turkey's money (for which Akinci is more than an excellent tool), plus Ukrainian engines, this is a guarantee that no advanced Western engines / technologies will sail away to the Turks, so it doesn't matter who is the president of the neighbors, what matters is that you "keep in touch" again)
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 26 November 2021 12: 54
            0
            Do you know how to read well?))) I said that the United States can be banned at any time, and this is not at all what you write. Because I don't know what kind of cockroaches run in the skulls of the Gauleiters of the Reich Chancellery in Washington. But I have no doubt that they can do it if they want to. They "bent" the French, and there is nothing to say about the Banderlands. I will say more, the Turks ordered one AI-322 and one AI-25 TLK, for a heavy UAV, perhaps even a supersonic one - AI-322 allows. But I repeat, this is all still in Washington, they turn a blind eye. When they get bored, Allah alone knows, but they seem to be tired of Zeneloh, Erdogad is on the way)))
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  4. Avior
    Avior 23 November 2021 18: 52
    +4
    Cooperation in the defense industry is growing between Ukraine and Turkey.
    1. Erich
      Erich 23 November 2021 19: 56
      +3
      What's bad about it? The country will decide for itself where and with whom it will establish contacts. Well done if they can negotiate. Miro is made up of chains of agreements and supply chains.
  5. pavlov viahislav
    pavlov viahislav 23 November 2021 19: 10
    -1
    Honestly, I don't really understand the function of this pepelatsa in the Turkish Air Force. The Bayraktar can also block the communications of the next Papuans with the shooting of individual armored units. Will it be used as a light attack aircraft? So the bomb load is too small, a breakthrough through a more or less normal air defense is also not for him. Meeting in the sky with any enemy fighter is a guaranteed loss of this UAV. It feels like it was created on the principle "I blinded you out of what was." Indeed, how can the beloved president's son-in-law create expensive garbage that is useless in a serious war?
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 23 November 2021 19: 26
      +5
      Quote: pavlov viahislav
      Honestly, I don't really understand the function of this pepelatsa in the Turkish Air Force.

      Maybe then it is worth studying materials on this topic on the Internet? Read different opinions in various articles, compare with analogues, see what they do and what weapons and equipment are worth.
      But no:
      Quote: pavlov viahislav
      Indeed, how can the beloved president's son-in-law create expensive garbage that is useless in a serious war?
      1. pavlov viahislav
        pavlov viahislav 23 November 2021 19: 58
        0
        He cannot perform exterminatory functions, he cannot work as an attack aircraft, and is redundant for counter-partisan actions. It will cost at the level of a supported fighter-bomber of the 4th generation, while inferior in combat capabilities to it by an order of magnitude. To understand this, it is enough to look at the photo of this pepelats and get acquainted with the characteristics declared in the article. Reading advertising booklets without a minimum of knowledge in aircraft engineering and the combat use of aviation is more harmful than useful occupation.
        1. Thorvlobnor IV
          Thorvlobnor IV 23 November 2021 22: 20
          +5
          I wonder why, in your opinion, then in the Russian Federation they are feverishly trying to catch up with China, Israel, Turkey and the United States in the production of such drones, if they are so useless?
          1. pavlov viahislav
            pavlov viahislav 23 November 2021 22: 34
            +2
            They are not useless, they have a very narrow application niche. Turkey does not have its own ground attack aircraft, but it is involved in a number of serious regional conflicts, therefore it is trying to close the gap with surrogates in the form of various UAVs. The Russian Aerospace Forces openly treat the unmanned topic on a leftover basis, relying on manned aircraft.
            1. Thorvlobnor IV
              Thorvlobnor IV 23 November 2021 23: 11
              +4
              Turkey makes drones relatively inexpensive, which opens up serious export prospects for them. Countries with "guerrilla-chevakashnye" conflicts will line up for such weapons, because it has significant advantages over jet aircraft, helicopters and even turboprop "attack aircraft": there is no pilot risking his life; many hours of patrolling with reconnaissance and surgical precision strikes; satellite communications resistant to electronic warfare; cheap, in comparison with jet vehicles, maintenance.
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 24 November 2021 13: 01
                +3
                Relatively inexpensive are made by Yemeni Houthis. Turkish money is quite normal, although not as expensive as Jewish.
          2. Elturisto
            Elturisto 24 November 2021 10: 01
            -2
            What is the Russian Federation trying to do? How is the feverish agony expressed - perhaps in the absence of proprietary engines, optical stations, or in the purchase of Israeli drones?
        2. Avior
          Avior 24 November 2021 07: 01
          +6
          Do you know a fighter-bomber that can hang in the air for a day?
        3. Intruder
          Intruder 25 November 2021 10: 29
          0
          It will cost at the level of a supported fighter-bomber of the 4th generation, while inferior in combat capabilities to it by an order of magnitude
          Can you tell me which IS of 4-5-6 generations (even ..) can hang in the area from 5-6 hours, loitering for 7-8 km.!? To the heap, autonomously return to the base ???
          1. pavlov viahislav
            pavlov viahislav 25 November 2021 14: 09
            +1
            Sorry, but any bomber aircraft works on targets that have already been reconnoitered. So there is no need for her to hang in the air for hours. To control communications and shoot carts with barmaley, the classic "bayraktar" is enough. It is not at all necessary to build for this a kind of analogue of a piston bomber a century ago.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 26 November 2021 12: 23
              +1
              Sorry, but any bomber aircraft works on targets that have already been reconnoitered.
              According to the classics, teaching aids ... but in real and complex tactical, sometimes and often, they cause when guys are completely crazy on the ground !!!
              It is not at all necessary to build for this a kind of analogue of a piston bomber a century ago.
              Cost, board and pilot in it? The plane-hour and the attendants are not lower than that of a piston drone with two theaters of operation and new onboard weapons ... well, this is so, for example ... hi
            2. Albay
              Albay 29 November 2021 14: 41
              -1
              In Armenia and Karabakh, on the Armenian side, there was an echeloned defense, and just before the war, they conducted joint exercises with Russian air defense systems.
              They simply did not enter the air defense engagement zone.
    2. ViacheslavS
      ViacheslavS 23 November 2021 23: 56
      0
      a breakthrough through a little - the slightest bit normal air defense is also not for him.


      There are not so many countries with the slightest echeloned air defense, and in the zones of interests of Turkey, Syria, Libya, Iran / Iraq, etc., there is generally no air defense in question. Plus export.
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 24 November 2021 12: 57
      -2
      Nepotism and cutting the budget - no one will ever cancel)))
    4. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 25 November 2021 14: 30
      +2
      He fights from a height, without entering the medium-range air defense zone.
      And to spend on it S-300 and above is expensive, and they are not everywhere.
      Launches UR or precision gliding bombs from afar. Can take under wings and a couple of kamikaze drones.
      1. pavlov viahislav
        pavlov viahislav 25 November 2021 14: 47
        0
        In other words, it tries to duplicate the functions of a classic strike aircraft. At the same time, having a limited size of the suspension and a low bomb load, which reduces the effectiveness of the combat mission in comparison with the Turkish combatant F - 16 by about 3-4 times.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 25 November 2021 15: 29
          +1
          But no one dies if he is knocked down. And this is an important factor.
          In addition to the prestige (to shoot down a combat plane!), Humanitarian, there is also a financial factor: pilot training - millions of dollars.
          Su-34 was shot down - what a resonance!
          And everyone will forget about the shooting down of the drone tomorrow.
      2. Eroma
        Eroma 29 November 2021 10: 16
        0
        "It is expensive to spend S-300 and above on it, and they are not everywhere."
        I think for the C300, etc. quite a worthy goal! it costs several million bucks, so it’s profitable to pull a million bucks into it. bully and in general, as the Americans say: thrifty soldiers do not win a warrior! lol if this UAV burns a couple of tanks, it is already more expensive than a couple of S300 missiles
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 29 November 2021 10: 27
          +1
          This is exactly what we have to do: they shoot from cannons at the sparrows.
          Israeli air defense shot down high-altitude drones by Patriots.
          There was nothing more suitable.
          But it's good if the drone is one ...
          And during intensive air raids, the S-300 (or Patriot) batteries are discharged onto the drones, and when the strikers arrive with a full supply of bombs / missiles, the installations are empty ...
  6. Thorvlobnor IV
    Thorvlobnor IV 23 November 2021 20: 06
    +2
    More powerful engines from Motor-Sich MC-500 (from 710 to 1000 hp, depending on modification) are also going to be installed on this drone.
  7. seeker of truth 777
    seeker of truth 777 23 November 2021 20: 07
    -3
    leading countries like the US and China are now focusing more on AI swarm drones and loyal wingmen. These large drones can only be used in moderate conflicts. It's just a catch-up project.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 November 2021 23: 12
      +1
      As a means of attacking medium-range air defense systems, it is the very thing - the armament of this UAV allows such a cruise missile SOM has a launch range of up to 500 kilometers, gliding bombs with a range of up to 200 kilometers are also envisaged, and in the future Turkey will have analogs of small-sized and stealthy GBU 39 of which this The UAV will be able to take 10 pieces - and then any air defense will have to work hard to shoot them down.
      1. Thorvlobnor IV
        Thorvlobnor IV 24 November 2021 00: 18
        +2
        And if three dozen drones made of shit and sticks, but with the same speed and radar signature, are added to the dozen attacking Akinji, then the air defense will be overloaded to the eyebrows with the task of selecting false targets.
        1. Elturisto
          Elturisto 24 November 2021 10: 02
          +1
          Absolutely correct statement.
        2. Genry
          Genry 24 November 2021 12: 42
          -1
          Quote: Torvlobnor IV
          if you add three dozen drones made of shit and sticks to a dozen attacking Akinji

          If you adjust your sticks to the characteristics of Akinji, then you will get this very Akinji. Did he think he was made of gold? Control systems, communications .... And fly empty?
          Quote: Torvlobnor IV
          Air defense will be overwhelmed to the eyebrows with the task of selecting false targets

          Air defense chooses priority targets and this is enough for self-sufficiency (in the event of its destruction, although there is the possibility of self-defense using barreled anti-aircraft guns).
          The remaining targets must be finished off by the next line of defense (longer-range air defense) or aviation.
          The military economy determines the optimal air defense configuration.
          1. Thorvlobnor IV
            Thorvlobnor IV 24 November 2021 17: 50
            +1
            The reality is different from what you are describing. A small cheap drone on the radar can be indistinguishable from a large and expensive one if it is equipped with special radio signal reflectors. Inquire how air defense training targets can simulate targets from cruise missiles to bomber. And the simulator drone does not have to be fully equipped with electronics: it only needs to receive commands from the accompanied shock drone according to the "follow me" algorithm and stupidly repeat the "commander's" movements. At the right time, the simulator drone turns into a kamikaze and dives at a target, which the drone commander or ground spotter will illuminate with a laser.
            1. Genry
              Genry 24 November 2021 18: 15
              0
              Quote: Torvlobnor IV
              The reality is different from what you are describing. A small cheap drone on the radar can be indistinguishable from a large and expensive one if it is equipped with special radio signal reflectors.

              "And you didn't even notice the elephant."
              A small, cheap drone will not be able to withstand the height and speed of a large and expensive one. Let its range be two times less (without returning home), this means that the size (without a payload) can be two times less - but not less, otherwise the ratios: wing_area / speed / engine_power / fuel_mass / takeoff_mass will be violated.
              Optical the signature will be completely different and the rocket, seeing a higher priority target, can ignore the small thing.
              Quote: Torvlobnor IV
              At the right time, the simulator drone turns into a kamikaze and dives at a target, which the drone commander or ground spotter will illuminate with a laser.

              Kamikaze drones will be relevant only where there will be no military equipment. A machine-gun automatic turret with an optoelectronic guidance system and ...
      2. seeker of truth 777
        seeker of truth 777 24 November 2021 03: 17
        +2
        I say that they are just catching up with world leaders, there is nothing innovative here. Everything I see there was made by the United States and China ten years ago. And the US and China have more interesting drones that Turkey cannot make.
        1. mitrich
          mitrich 24 November 2021 23: 19
          0
          And in Israel.
      3. Genry
        Genry 24 November 2021 13: 16
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        As a means of attacking medium-range air defense systems, it is itself - the armament of this UAV allows such a cruise missile SOM has a launch range of up to 500 kilometers
        Quote: Vadim237
        As a means of attacking medium-range air defense systems

        Up to 250 km. And there is no need to launch them from a UAV - a ground-based launcher is simpler.
        Quote: Vadim237
        gliding bombs with a range of up to 200 kilometers are also provided

        Something you have everything to several times exaggerated.
        200 km from a height of 10 km implies an aerodynamic quality of 20, which is typical of licked aircraft or gliders.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 November 2021 18: 21
          -1
          500 kilometers for the next SOM modification - and yes it is an air-to-ground weapon - what other ground launches are easier.
          Something you have everything is exaggerated several times.
          200 km from a height of 10 km implies an aerodynamic quality of 20, which is typical of licked aircraft or gliders. Nothing is exaggerated, for the same American bomb GBU 39, the gliding range is 110 kilometers and the EPR is 0.015 m squared if the radar sees it at a maximum of 15 - 25 kilometers.
          1. Genry
            Genry 24 November 2021 18: 34
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            500 kilometers for the next SOM modification

            The next modification can be developed for a different carrier, have a different weight and dimensions, therefore, for this UAV it is not specific.
            Quote: Vadim237
            Nothing is exaggerated in the same American bomb GBU 39, the range of a gliding flight is 110 kilometers.

            Is the difference between 200 and 100 exaggerated? A bomb with a bad wing will never fly like a glider.
            Quote: Vadim237
            EPR 0.015 m squared if the radar sees it for a maximum of 15 - 25 kilometers.

            This is more than enough (usually from 10 km) to: deploy the anti-aircraft gun, capture the target, recalculate the parameters ...
      4. Intruder
        Intruder 25 November 2021 10: 31
        +1
        and there any air defense will have to work hard to bring them down.
        Wrap yourself up in your camouflage net and creep like a smell, meekly crawl into the cemetery of military equipment !? bully
  8. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 24 November 2021 09: 59
    0
    What life-giving advertising does. Pepelats with the performance characteristics of the II MB Ju-87 aircraft declared a super-super-underderwaffe "unmatched in the world", capable of winning any "miracle". And all this is based on several, "seemingly successful" sorties against who knows what in Nagorno-Karabakh. So far, only one thing is clear - the advertisement was made for 5+.
    1. teptyar
      teptyar 24 November 2021 11: 02
      0
      advertising and we do! We shoot cartoons, carry models, but we can't go any further. Neither establish production at home nor find partners. Apparently it's not just advertising.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 November 2021 18: 29
        -1
        Yes, more than what you can not advance?
        1. teptyar
          teptyar 25 November 2021 07: 00
          +1
          We! We cannot advance.
          further demo samples. production and replacement are not possible.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 November 2021 18: 28
      +1
      In Karabakh, there were not a few successful flights, but more than 180, and this is only Bayraktarov, and during these flights they destroyed hundreds of pieces of equipment, killed and maimed thousands of servicemen of the Armenian army. And this ad on 5+ was seen by everyone except you, apparently.
      1. Nafanya from the sofa
        Nafanya from the sofa 24 November 2021 18: 32
        -3
        during these sorties, they destroyed hundreds of pieces of equipment, killed and maimed thousands of servicemen of the Armenian army.

        If you also explain where "hundreds of pieces of equipment and thousands of servicemen of the Armenian army" came from in Nagorno-Karabakh, then I will agree that this advertisement was seen by everyone except me. what
        1. Albay
          Albay 29 November 2021 14: 32
          -2
          If you also explain where "hundreds of pieces of equipment and thousands of servicemen of the Armenian army came from in Nagorno-Karabakh"
          from the same place where the radar station and even the soldiers in general.
          From Armenia.
  9. Old ensign
    Old ensign 24 November 2021 11: 59
    +1
    Akinchi is a logical development of drones. Akinchi has a carrying capacity of about 1350 kg + satellite communications + electronic warfare. Akinchi can carry 500 kg of bombs. I think next year Ukraine will buy them and test them in Donbass.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 25 November 2021 10: 33
      +1
      I think next year Ukraine will buy them and test them in Donbass.
      Eh, humanitarian convoys of the Ministry of Emergency Situations will go across the border again !? soldier
  10. Lucy
    Lucy 25 November 2021 14: 48
    +1
    Read from
    Ryabova Kirill and remembered the press secretary of Peskov, with his blizzard. Well, where from a kilometer of text ....... successes and potential problems?
  11. stankow
    stankow 28 November 2021 20: 38
    0
    You cannot combine U-2 and A-10 in one. Dividing the UAV into a pure reconnaissance and a shock one is the next step.
    1. Albay
      Albay 29 November 2021 14: 30
      -1
      Dividing the UAV into a pure reconnaissance and a strike is the next step

      This step has been taken long ago.
  12. Albay
    Albay 29 November 2021 14: 29
    -1
    Production is still going on at a limited pace, and in addition, it seriously depends on imported components.

    In addition to the engine, all other components are domestically produced!
    Recently for the development of a new UAV in my jet
    The Baikar company has signed contracts with 30 domestic companies. The only problem with UAVs for the company and Turkey is engines.
  13. Outsider
    Outsider 3 December 2021 18: 38
    0
    - This pterodactyl will actually have a very large EPR (in comparison with Bayraktar), if a special complex is not adopted not cheap measures to reduce it ... winked
    For now, it seems that it will be easier and easier for the Russian (Armenian, etc.) air defense systems to shoot down ...