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Russian 12,7mm sniper rifles

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The development of large-caliber sniper rifles in our country began later than in the West. But, despite this, Russian gunsmiths managed to create a number of original samples that are not inferior and often superior to foreign designs.


The design of the first 12,7-mm sniper rifles in the USSR began in the late 1980s, after it became known about the adoption of rifles chambered for 12,7 × 99 mm by the American special operations forces, which was used for firing from the Browning M2NV heavy machine gun. However, until the collapse of the Soviet Union, such rifles were not adopted for service.

12,7 mm rifles V-94 and OSV-96


The first serial Russian 12,7-mm rifle was the OSV-96, created in Tula by specialists from the Instrument Design Bureau (KBP). The prototype of this rifle (chambered for 12,7 × 108 mm), known as the B-94 "Volga", was presented in 1995, apparently shortly before running in combat on the territory of the Chechen Republic.

Officially this weapon was intended for firing at the embrasures of firing points, fighting lightly armored enemy vehicles, destroying radars, vans with radio stations, command and control facilities and missile systems, as well as destroying enemy aircraft at the airfield.

Russian 12,7mm sniper rifles

The B-94 large-caliber sniper rifle is a semi-automatic rifle that works by removing part of the powder gases. The bolt is locked by turning the bolt with four lugs.


12,7-mm rifle V-94 "Volga"

The long barrel and powerful cartridge inevitably affected the overall dimensions of the weapon. A highlight of the design is the ability to fold the rifle, which makes transportation much more convenient.


12,7-mm rifle V-94 "Volga" folded

The barrel of the B-94 rifle is equipped with a muzzle brake-flash suppressor, the buttstock was originally made of wood. On the back of the butt to reduce the effect of recoil on the shooter, a rubber butt pad is provided. Shooting is possible only from a prone position or from a support - for which there are folding bipods.

For trial operation, rifles with a PSO-1 sight were originally supplied. Subsequently, more durable optical sights with high magnification were created for the large-caliber rifle.


The B-94 rifles of several modifications were produced in small series and from the second half of the 1990s were used in the North Caucasus.

After military trials, the modified rifle was put into service under the designation OSV-96 "Cracker".

The new modification differs from the B-94 in a modified plastic butt, a different design of the muzzle brake, folding adjustable bipods and a carrying handle. Instead of a single-row magazine, a staggered cartridge magazine is used.

Initially, within the framework of the Vzlomshik ROC, several rifles of different calibers were developed, but this name “stuck” to the OSV-96.


12,7-mm rifle OSV-96 "Cracker" in firing position with accessories

According to materials published in the public domain, the mass of a rifle without a sight is 12,9 kg. Length in firing position - 1 mm, folded - 746 mm.


12,7 mm rifle OSV-96 folded

Magazine capacity - 5 rounds. Combat rate of fire - up to 20 rds / min. On the OSV-96 rifle, it is possible to install various optical and night optoelectronic sights of domestic and foreign production. The maximum firing range is 1 m.

For firing from the OSV-96, cartridges of 12,7 × 108 mm, designed for DShKM, NSV and KORD machine guns, can be used. The B-32 armor-piercing incendiary bullet weighing 48,3 g leaves a rifle barrel 1 mm long with an initial velocity of 000 m / s and at a distance of 890 m along the normal is capable of penetrating 300 mm armor.


Cartridge 12,7 × 108 mm

Taking into account the fact that standard machine-gun ammunition measuring 12,7 × 108 mm demonstrates an unsatisfactory accuracy for a sniper weapon, special cartridges were developed. It is known that for firing at lightly armored targets, an armor-piercing cartridge with improved accuracy with a bullet with a hardened steel core is used.

It is stated that when firing from the OSV-96 rifle, the dispersion diameter of 5 shots at a distance of 100 m does not exceed 50 mm. The best accuracy is given by cartridges with a bronze bullet, turned on a precision machine. But these handcrafted cartridges are expensive and have limited use.

The real characteristics of the "Burglar" with a high-precision cartridge are not disclosed. Based on indirect data, it can be assumed that a target of the "chest figure" type can be hit from the first shot at a distance of up to 800 m.

In open sources, it was not possible to find information about how many OSV-96 rifles were produced. In Russia, OSV-96 are in service with the special forces of the FSB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and "other law enforcement agencies."


Large-caliber "Crackers" enjoy some success with foreign buyers. The OSV-96 rifles were adopted for service in Azerbaijan, Belarus, Egypt, India, Iran, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. Licensed production of OSV-96 in 2018 was established in Vietnam.

These weapons were used in Syria and eastern Ukraine. Although the first Russian 12,7-mm rifle was mainly intended for firing at vehicles and suppressing firing points, in real hostilities it was mainly used as a counter-sniper weapon and in street battles - to defeat manpower hiding behind the walls of buildings and in light field fortifications.

Although the OSV-96 is not very accurate for sniper weapons, the use of a 12,7 × 108 mm cartridge allows the shooter to remain out of the reach of the aimed fire of small arms of 7,62 mm caliber. Automatic reloading in the event of a miss makes it possible to quickly fire a second shot.

12,7-mm rifles SVN-98, KSVK and ASVK


In 1998, the 12,7-mm Nergulenko sniper rifle - SVN-98 was presented for testing. Since the first half of the 1990s, work on the creation of this rifle was carried out at the design bureau of the Degtyarev Plant in Kovrov.


12,7 mm SVN-98 rifle

The SVN-98 rifle is made according to the bullpup scheme and uses a sliding bolt with a twist. Food is supplied from a detachable 5-round magazine. The barrel has a compensator brake that reduces recoil and suppresses the flash of the shot. The butt end of the rifle is covered with a porous material, which makes shooting more comfortable. For easy portability, there is a handle in the center of the rifle, on which an optical sight is also mounted. Convenience of shooting in the "prone" position is provided by folding bipods.

Although the SVN-98 rifle was at least as good as the OSV-96 in terms of its effective firing range, thanks to the use of the bullpup scheme, the overall length of the weapon in the firing position is much less.

In the late 1990s, a small batch of SVN-98 rifles was tested in Chechnya. Based on the experience gained in combat conditions, the 12,7-mm KSVK rifle went into a small series, which differs from the START-98 in a number of details.


12,7 mm rifle KSVK

The KVSK rifle without cartridges and an optical sight weighs 12,5 kg. The total length is 1 420 mm. Barrel length - 1 mm. Bullet muzzle velocity - 000 m / s. Combat rate of fire - up to 900 rds / min.

In 2004, an improved, manually reloadable 12,7 mm ASVK rifle was created in Kovrov.

According to the advertising information published by the press service of JSC "Plant named after V. A. Degtyarev", thanks to the use of a barrel made by the cold forging method, the shooting accuracy has significantly improved. The average dispersion diameter declared by the manufacturer without the use of special ammunition at a distance of 300 m is about 160 mm. When using special cartridges, the accuracy is about 1,5 MOA.

The guaranteed resource of the barrel without loss of accuracy is 3 shots. With proper care, the total barrel life is up to 000 shots. High-performance muzzle brake allows to reduce recoil by more than 5 times. When shooting, bipods are used, which are attached to the receiver rod. In the stowed position, they fold forward. The butt plate is equipped with a shock absorber made of porous material. This allows the shooter to fire several dozen shots without feeling unpleasant sensations.


Sniper of the 76th Guards Airborne Assault Division with a 12,7-mm AVSK rifle. Photo: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

The official entry into service of the AVSK rifle took place in 2014. This rifle is used not only by snipers of the FSB and FSO, but also in army special forces. This weapon was successfully used in the armed conflict in the east of Ukraine.

12,7 mm rifle VM-2000


At about the same time as AVSK, the 12,7-mm VM-2000 rifle was created in the Tula State Unitary Enterprise KBP, also made according to the "bullpup" scheme.


12,7 mm rifle VM-2000

This rifle took part in a competition announced by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and at the first stage showed very good results. However, the VM-2000 rifle was subsequently withdrawn from testing.


Very little is known about this rifle, no precise information is provided about the device, and it can only be judged by the available photographs. According to information published in open sources, a total of 10 copies of the VM-2000 were made.

The VM-2000 layout is made according to the "bullpup" scheme and has a manual reloading with a longitudinally sliding rotary bolt. The bolt cocking handle is moved far forward relative to the breech of the barrel, which makes reloading more convenient. Cartridges are fed from detachable box magazines.

The rifle is equipped with open sights on folding bases and a seat for mounting optical or night sights. In front of the fire control handle there is a handle for carrying a weapon. To soften the recoil, the VM-2000 rifle is equipped with a muzzle brake and a shock absorber in the stock. When shooting, the support is carried out on a folding bipod.

12,7 mm rifle OTs-44


Another large-caliber Russian bullpup rifle is the 12,7 mm OTs-44. This weapon was designed by the Tula Central Design Bureau for Sports and Hunting Weapons (TsKIB SOO) in the late 1990s, chambered for the standard 12,7 × 108 mm cartridge.


12,7 mm rifle OTs-44

A number of original technical solutions were used in the design of this rifle. So, instead of moving the bolt of the rifle when reloading, the shooter moves the barrel of the weapon. To reduce the sound of a shot, there is a large-sized silencer that attenuates the sound of a shot to the level of a 7,62-mm SVD rifle. Rifle weight without cartridges - 14 kg. Length - 1 mm. Magazine capacity - 070 rounds.

The muffler reduces the muzzle velocity of the 12,7 mm B-32 bullet to 800 m / s. The maximum firing range is 1 m. The effective range is 200 m. To drastically reduce the noise level of a shot, special cartridges with a subsonic bullet can be used. But at the same time, the effective firing range is approximately halved.

Apparently, when developing this sample, the designers tried to create a universal, most compact rifle, which, when firing with conventional cartridges, could be used to defeat various equipment, and with subsonic cartridges - in special operations.

There is no information in reliable sources about the adoption and combat use of the OTs-44 large-caliber sniper rifle.

12,7-mm rifle VSSK "Exhaust"


By special order of the Special Purpose Center of the FSB of Russia, in parallel with the large-caliber assault rifle ASh-12 TsKIB SOO, a 12,7-mm special-purpose rifle VSSK "Exhaust" was created, which was put into service in May 2004. It was first presented to the public at the Interpolitech exhibition in 2005.

The main purpose of the 12,7-mm VSSK rifle is the covert defeat of manpower in personal protective equipment (including heavy body armor) at a distance of up to 600 meters, as well as behind obstacles or light armor.

An acceptable sound level is provided by an integrated silent firing device and cartridges with an initial bullet velocity below the speed of sound (290-295 m / s). The integrated muffler can be removed for transport or cleaning.


12,7-mm rifle VSSK "Exhaust" with different attachment points for the optical sight and bipods of various designs

In addition to the possibility of installing various optical and night sights, there are duplicate sights: a folding diopter sight and a front sight.

For firing, special STs-130 cartridges with a dimension of 12,7 × 55 mm are used, with specially made weighted bullets, relatively short 55 mm long sleeves and a muzzle energy of about 2,5 kJ.


The VSSK rifle ammunition nomenclature includes:

- cartridge STs-130 PT with a high-precision shell bullet;

- cartridge SC-130 PT 2 with a bronze bullet of increased accuracy;

- cartridge SC-130 VPS with an armor-piercing bullet;

- training cartridge STs-130 PU, designed for training.

The 12,7 mm subsonic bullet weighs from 59 to 76 g. The full length of the 12,7 mm SC-130 cartridge is 97,3 mm versus 147,5 mm for the standard domestic large-caliber cartridge 12,7 × 108 mm.

At a distance of 100 m, when firing a series of 7 shots with STs-130PT cartridges (a bullet weighing 59 g), they fit into a circle with a diameter of 35 mm. The bullet of the STs-130VPS cartridge weighing 76 grams at 200 m along the normal penetrates a steel plate 16 mm thick. In addition to armor, such a cartridge can easily pierce a wooden wall or brickwork up to 10 cm thick.


The VSSK is recharged manually. The bolt handle is located on the right side of the rifle, moves translationally, which is more ergonomic than handling a traditional bolt with a turn. On the handle, connected to the bolt carrier, there is a preliminary start-off lever and a handle safety device, which excludes spontaneous opening of the bolt. The barrel bore is locked by turning the bolt on four symmetrically located lugs.


The rifle has good ergonomics and can be fired from any position. There is a pad on the butt plate that can be adjusted to suit your individual needs. Foldable bipods are located at the front of the rifle. In the stowed position, they are completely retracted into the forend and have an adjustable height.

For a 12,7 mm caliber, VSSK has very modest weight and dimensions. The weight of the rifle with a magazine, a silencer and without a sight is 6,5 kg. Length - 1 125 mm. Food is supplied from a detachable 5-round magazine.

Evaluation of the effectiveness of domestic 12,7-mm sniper rifles


Concluding the review devoted to Russian 12,7-mm rifles, we can state that in terms of their characteristics they are not inferior to the best foreign models. So, the OSV-96 self-loading rifle in terms of size, rate of fire and accuracy is quite comparable to the Barrett M82. At the same time, a domestically produced rifle is cheaper, lighter, can be folded for transportation, has a longer barrel and more ammunition, which potentially allows you to hit targets at a greater distance.

Russian 12,7-mm rifles with manual reloading, built according to the "bullpup" scheme, look quite dignified against the background of the American Barrett M-90 / M-95 / M-99.

Not only in the USA, but also nowhere in the world is there a serial analogue of our low-noise rifle VSSK "Exhaust".

At the same time, it should be stated that the ammunition load of Russian large-caliber rifles lacks modern armor-piercing incendiary cartridges, similar in their characteristics to the American MK 211, which, in turn, does not allow to fully reveal the potential of the domestic cartridge 12,7 × 108 mm.

It is also highly desirable to improve the quality and characteristics of domestic optical and night sights. It's no secret that snipers of the FSB and FSO often use foreign-made optics.

Currently, Russian large-caliber sniper rifles are mainly available in services dealing with the fight against terrorism, the physical protection of top officials and the protection of strategically important objects. Compared to the American armed forces, there are still few 12,7 mm rifles in our army.
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    1. Toucan
      Toucan 24 November 2021 18: 38
      +20
      Quote: Artyom Karagodin
      Why didn't they tell about Lobaev's rifles?

      Is the Lobaev rifle chambered for 12,7 mm? what

      Although the author previously wrote that he is not very versed in small arms, in my opinion the article turned out to be quite good.
      1. Artyom Karagodin
        Artyom Karagodin 24 November 2021 18: 47
        +3
        Well written, I agree. Actually, yes, I am an ignoramus No. ... Lobaev does not have models under 12,7 request
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 25 November 2021 13: 15
          -2
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          Well written, I agree. Actually, yes, I am an ignoramus No. ... Lobaev does not have models under 12,7 request


          There is a good alternative to the Lobaev rifle, and a proven one.





          ... The official name that the new model of small arms received sounds quite long - 12.7 mm sniper complex. It is for him that the 6C8 index is now assigned.


          The weapon proved to be highly effective during the first CTO in Chechnya, making it possible to guarantee the destruction of manpower at a distance:

          up to 2 km - in open areas;
          1.0-1.5 km - in shelters (option, in body armor).

          The new sniper rifle penetrates concrete fences, sandbags, brickwork. At the same time, the sniper has a certain safety, since other types of small arms do not allow hitting him at such distances.

          At a distance of up to 700 m, ASVK punches a 32 mm steel sheet with a V-20 cartridge, which makes it possible to disable lightly armored vehicles.

          https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/6016a96c00f8c328759ade46/eta-vintovka-probivaet-20-mm-stalnoi-list-na-rasstoianii-do-700-m-armeiskaia-snaiperskaia-vintovka-krupnokalibernaia-asvk-61922a0963e9885b2356b9c1
          1. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin 25 November 2021 14: 48
            0
            Only Lobaev puts in his much greater range. Up to 3 km of confident target destruction, and up to 6 km - maximum. What happens in the end, time will tell.
        2. fyvaprold
          fyvaprold 25 November 2021 16: 56
          0
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          Well written, I agree. Actually, yes, I am an ignoramus No. ... Lobaev does not have models under 12,7 request

          Quote: Tucan
          Is the Lobaev rifle chambered for 12,7 mm?

          Quote: Sea Cat
          Is the Lobaev rifle chambered for 12,7 mm?


          No, this cartridge is not available. There is a large selection of different ammunition for different models, at the request of the customer, but no 12,7 mm.

          The day before yesterday, the article was published on VO:
          https://topwar.ru/189381-modulnyj-podhod-i-vysokie-harakteristiki-opytnaja-vintovka-lobaev-arms-dxl-5-havoc.html
          1. Artyom Karagodin
            Artyom Karagodin 25 November 2021 19: 28
            +1
            I repeat: this is still an experimental rifle. God forbid that she went into the series with the stated characteristics. But, perhaps, the project will not "shoot". But on his experience they will create another product. We will continue to follow the information and sincerely wish Lobaev and his team success!
            1. SKVichyakow
              SKVichyakow 26 November 2021 15: 53
              0
              Quote: Artyom Karagodin
              I repeat: this is still an experimental rifle. God forbid that she went into the series with the stated characteristics. But, perhaps, the project will not "shoot". But on his experience they will create another product. We will continue to follow the information and sincerely wish Lobaev and his team success!

              So it seems that MO does not buy anything from Lobaev?
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 24 November 2021 18: 53
        +1
        Is the Lobaev rifle chambered for 12,7 mm?


        No, this cartridge is not available. There is a large selection of different ammunition for different models, at the request of the customer, but no 12,7 mm.
        1. CTABEP
          CTABEP 24 November 2021 20: 55
          +3
          So they seem to have a new rifle just under 12,7.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 24 November 2021 20: 59
            +2
            What model? I didn’t find 12,7 caliber on the net.
            1. CTABEP
              CTABEP 24 November 2021 21: 03
              +2
              DXL-5.
              On November 19, Lobaev wrote about her in TG. But as I understand it, these are still the first samples, far from a series.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 24 November 2021 21: 11
                +3
                I found it, here below the colleague "Bad_gr (Vladimir)" remembered that there was an article on VO. I looked at a couple more articles on the net, they do not indicate the cartridge at all, but one thing is clear, the rifle has not gone into production (yet) and whether it will go or not is unknown.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 24 November 2021 18: 54
      +1
      She was not accepted into service in the Russian army.
      1. fyvaprold
        fyvaprold 25 November 2021 16: 59
        +5
        Quote: Sea Cat
        She was not accepted into service in the Russian army.

        An article about Russian rifles in general, and not about "adopted for service", if I'm not mistaken. hi
  2. Konnick
    Konnick 24 November 2021 18: 44
    +6
    Quote: Artyom Karagodin
    Why didn't they tell about Lobaev's rifles?

    Here is an article about serial rifles that have been put into service, and not one-of-a-kind ones for records.
    1. Artyom Karagodin
      Artyom Karagodin 24 November 2021 18: 51
      +2
      Lobaev rifles are being produced in series. True, only in the FSO and the UAE army. And they don't have 12,7 * mm. Then I gave up.
      1. Split
        Split 24 November 2021 19: 11
        -9
        Yes, the point is, even our sniper 12,7 is worse 3 times in accuracy than the same 338 paw magnum or 408 cheat. Yes, that same BMG has the farthest shot in history, the emnip from Macmillan is so 50 .... although of course more luck, but he has ~ 1cm accuracy for 33 km (0,5MOA)
        1. Ingenegr
          Ingenegr 27 November 2021 10: 58
          +1
          Quote: Split
          Yes, the point is, even our sniper 12,7 is worse 3 times in accuracy than the same 338 paw magnum or 408 cheat.

          Truth? But I assure you that ours is 12.7 × 108 in accuracy, that ANY 338LM or 408ST is absolutely equal. Accuracy depends only on the correctness of the definition of the initial data for shooting. In terms of accuracy, it is necessary to compare not just abstract "cartridges" in general, but concrete products. For example, cartridge 7Н34 with running cartridge Lapua 4318035.
          Quote: Split
          but he has an accuracy of ~ 1cm (33MOA) at 0,5km

          Accuracy or accuracy? And since when did 33 cm per 1 km become equivalent to 0.5 moa? 0.5 × 10 × 29.1 = 14.55 cm - maybe so?
          And 33 cm by 1 km would be the equivalent of 1.13 moa. Something like this.
          In general, learning the materiel must be of high quality.
      2. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 24 November 2021 19: 38
        +2
        Quote: Artyom Karagodin
        Lobaev rifles are being produced in series. True, only in the FSO and the UAE army. And they don't have 12,7 * mm. Then I gave up.

        So after all, just yesterday there was an article (https://topwar.ru/189381-modulnyj-podhod-i-vysokie-harakteristiki-opytnaja-vintovka-lobaev-arms-dxl-5-havoc.html) about Lobaevskaya Lobaev Arms DXL -5 Havoc (caliber 12,7mm).
        Or have I misunderstood something?
        1. Artyom Karagodin
          Artyom Karagodin 24 November 2021 20: 18
          +1
          This is still an experimental rifle. Even the title says. While she is still in the series will go. If it does. Maybe they will do something new based on the results of operation?
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 24 November 2021 21: 07
          +4
          "At the moment, the DXL-5 Havoc in the first version came out for testing and demonstrates its capabilities in the original 12,7 mm caliber for two different cartridges" (c)
          The rifle is being tested and it is not a fact that the serial version, if any, will be chambered for 12,7x108 mm.
  3. KSVK
    KSVK 24 November 2021 18: 44
    +5
    12,7-mm rifles SVN-98, KVSK and AVSK

    Author, typo of KSVK and ASVK Kovrovskaya / army large-caliber sniper rifle.
    And in the text there are also confused letters. Correct pzh-ta.
  4. Undecim
    Undecim 24 November 2021 19: 00
    +8
    Russian 12,7-mm rifles with manual reloading, built according to the "bullpup" scheme, look quite dignified against the background of the American Barrett M-90 / M-95 / M-99.

    For some reason, if they write about 12,7 mm rifles, everyone is compared with the Barrett M-90 / M-95 / M-99.
    But there is already a Barrett XM500 ...

    ... and MICOR Leader 50 ...

    ... and the German DSR-50.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 24 November 2021 19: 59
      +12
      Especially for minus - British Desert Tech HTI.
    2. Bongo
      25 November 2021 04: 24
      +4
      Quote: Undecim
      For some reason, if they write about 12,7 mm rifles, everyone is compared with the Barrett M-90 / M-95 / M-99.
      But there is already a Barrett XM500 ...

      Hello, Victor! I have no data that the experienced Barrett XM500 has been put into service. request
      In addition, this publication has probably passed you by. This is where the Barrett XM500 is mentioned.
      Modern American 12,7mm sniper rifles
      https://topwar.ru/188598-sovremennye-amerikanskie-127-mm-snajperskie-vintovki.html
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 25 November 2021 08: 44
        +2
        Yes, I mentioned Barrett XM500 in a hurry, I agree.
  5. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 24 November 2021 19: 05
    +9
    "will make holes ... in brickwork up to 10 cm thick"
    As a PGS nickname by first education,
    I can only say that there are no bricks of this size.
    120 mm - the thickness of a "regular" brick.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 24 November 2021 20: 17
      +5
      Quote: DKuznecov
      "will make holes ... in brickwork up to 10 cm thick"
      As a PGS nickname by first education,
      I can only say that there are no bricks of this size.
      120 mm - the thickness of a "regular" brick.
      Perhaps the author of the article meant a brick laid on the "edge" (spoons) ...
      Then the "thickness" will be "up to 10cm" - 6,5cm
      If you "dig deeper" standard brickwork = "two and a half bricks", I specify - TWO LENGTH and ONE THICKNESS = 250mm + 250mm + 120mm = 620mm
      "Two and a half bricks" - the standard for the masonry of residential buildings. Garages, sheds and other outbuildings, built by private individuals - may have a size of "half brick" = 120mm - brick folded on pastel in one row.
      You can even fold it into a "quarter brick" = 65mm - bricks stacked on spoons in one row, but they just put a "barn" for shovels and a rake ...
      hi
      1. AAC
        AAC 26 November 2021 09: 27
        0
        "standard" masonry 640. you probably forgot about the solution.
  6. Catfish
    Catfish 24 November 2021 19: 06
    +3
    Sergey, good evening! hi

    Thank you for a new interesting and full-fledged article. I'm not a sniper, but learning something new about weapons is always nice.
    It is a pity that there is little information on the VM-2000 rifle and the reasons why it was removed from testing. Outwardly, it seemed to me simple and unpretentious, which is a positive quality for operation in the army.
    The production of OSV-96 by the Vietnamese for their army also smiled a little, I am in no way a chauvinist, but I can hardly imagine that when fired, a Vietnamese does not fly away in the direction opposite to the bullet. yes
    1. Split
      Split 24 November 2021 19: 40
      -2
      A drop of nicotine kills a horse, and the return of OSV-96 to a Vietnamese lol wassat
      By the way, do we have serial snipers under 14,5 right now? recourse
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 24 November 2021 20: 07
        +5
        IST-14,5 Istiglal - 14,5 mm large-caliber sniper rifle, developed according to the traditional scheme for 14,5 x 114 mm cartridge at the Telemechanics plant in Shirvan of the Ministry of Defense Industry of Azerbaijan. The Istiglal rifle has been produced since 2008 and continues to improve.

        Sniper rifle "Alligator" caliber 14,5x114 mm (Ukraine)

        Truvelo CMS 14.5x114 mm. South Africa

        Lobaev's rifle chambered for .408 Chey Tac I will not bring, because bullet diameter is 10,3 mm.
        Perhaps you can find more if you search, but this is so, just offhand.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 24 November 2021 21: 38
          +7
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Perhaps you can find more

          Donchanka-14,5 (DPR) .....
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 24 November 2021 21: 45
            +7
            Did you mean that?

            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 24 November 2021 22: 06
              +4
              Quote: Sea Cat
              Did you mean that?

              This one...
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 24 November 2021 21: 34
        +7
        In the Tula TsKIB of sporting and hunting weapons, they developed a "rifle" in caliber 14,5 mm ...! They promised that it would be possible to shoot St. 3,5 km ... Well, they talked and fell silent! Information for today is dumb ... Maybe they are finishing it ... or maybe not ...!
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 09: 45
          +3
          And in finished form it will not be needed. The 14,5 mm rifle comes out with a weight equal to the body weight of a 12,7 mm heavy machine gun, which can also be used to attach a sight. The combat value of a machine gun and a large-sized rifle is not comparable, approximately 5 to 1 in favor of a machine gun.
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 25 November 2021 10: 07
            +4
            The 14,5 mm rifle comes out with a weight equal to the body weight of a 12,7 mm heavy machine gun, which can also be used to attach a sight. The combat value of a machine gun and a large-sized rifle is not comparable, approximately 5 to 1 in favor of a machine gun.

            Agree. Fashion is who will shoot next, but this is necessary? But a large-caliber machine gun with its value must be installed on military equipment, of course. Large bore sniper rifles are powerful weapons, but redundant. To drag around with such a weight for the sake of an accurate shot for a kilometer or two? Until you decompose, the goal will go away. It may be easier to sneak up with a regular caliber or aim something more serious at the target. I do not see any serious combat use of these caramults in modern warfare.
            1. Obliterator
              Obliterator 26 November 2021 01: 49
              +1
              Quote: Konnick
              Large bore sniper rifles are powerful weapons, but redundant. To drag around with such a weight for the sake of an accurate shot for a kilometer or two? Until you decompose, there the goal will go away. It may be easier to sneak up with a regular caliber or aim something more serious at the target. I do not see any serious combat use of these caramults in modern warfare.

              Snipers are deployed in advance of the appearance of the purpose for which they were deployed - this is the rule. In the conditions of modern war, when the means of detection are developing, a significant increase in the range of the shot and camouflage are one of the most important means of ensuring the survival of the sniper. If not the only ones.
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 25 November 2021 11: 52
            0
            According to the newspaper, the new rifle "will have a caliber of 14,5 mm, and the case is supposed to be used in general from a small-caliber cannon."

            At the same time, according to the developers, “the return of the 14,5-mm rifle will be even less tangible than that of the XMUM“ Cracker ”, a constructive solution already exists.”
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 11: 55
              -1
              No one doubts the availability of constructive solutions. The warehouses probably have a stock of anti-tank rifles from the time of the Great Patriotic War. The main question is, why carry such a weight?
              1. Nikolaevich I
                Nikolaevich I 25 November 2021 12: 27
                +1
                It is noted that the new rifle is capable of hitting targets at a distance of over 3,5 km. And "at a distance of hundreds of meters, it is capable of piercing the wall of a building, all types of light armored vehicles and even inflicting serious damage on a tank, knocking out its optics and other important systems brought to the tower," the newspaper writes. Well, why not "heavy weapons" for the partisans? Or their "substitutes" - DRG? The plane, the helicopter at the field airfield to "knock out" ... the radar, the "satellite" radio station, the electronic warfare complex to disable ... shoot at the field ammunition depot ...
                1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                  Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 12: 36
                  0
                  In reality, from a distance of one and a half kilometers, or even less, unknown forces of nature act on bullets and small-caliber projectiles, changing the flight trajectory in the most unpredictable way. You can talk about hitting targets at distances of 3,5 km, but you cannot hit.
            2. Abram Ivanovich
              Abram Ivanovich 25 November 2021 14: 02
              0
              Why the heck are they if there are no special cartridges for 14.5 and are not expected?
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 24 November 2021 22: 04
      +5
      Konstantin, greetings ... hi
      It is a pity that there is little information on the VM-2000 rifle and the reasons why it was removed from testing.

      1. Financial (as usual ... wink ):
      - for the development and creation of the 7N34 ammunition, the government has already spent quite budgetary funds - this became one of the motives for the adoption of the KSVK for mass production ...
      2. gloomy political reasons and to the heap, bickering for the state order among manufacturers at that time !?
      And so, yes ... an excellent "squeak":
      Main properties:
      - ammunition, caliber: 12,7x108 mm;
      - mass of a bullet of an armor-piercing cartridge: 51 g;
      - energy of the initial bullet flight: 18,8 kJ;
      - length: 1 320 mm;
      - barrel: 1 mm;
      - the speed of the initial bullet flight: 900 m / s;
      - food: 5 ammunition in the store;
      - declared effective range up to 2 km. (although, according to "some" sources, the VM-2000 can effectively fire at distances of up to 2,3 km.);
      In competitive tests, it showed better accuracy than OSV-96!
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 24 November 2021 23: 05
        +2
        Hi Denis, and thanks. hi
        It's a pity that it turned out that way ... request
    3. Bongo
      25 November 2021 04: 16
      +3
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Sergey, good evening!

      Well, or morning! wink
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Thank you for a new interesting and full-fledged article.

      This is my son to be thanked. If not for him, I would not have taken up this topic.
      There is almost no time for "writing". For a week now I can not finish an article about Chinese MLRS in the Korean War.
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Outwardly, it seemed to me simple and unpretentious, which is a positive quality for operation in the army.

      I liked it too.
      Quote: Sea Cat
      The production of OSV-96 by the Vietnamese for their army also smiled a little, I am in no way a chauvinist, but I can hardly imagine that when fired, a Vietnamese does not fly away in the direction opposite to the bullet.

      A couple of years ago I spoke with the Vietnamese military. Most of the "Nguyenas" are short and very polite. But you shouldn't underestimate them. No.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 25 November 2021 09: 23
        +2
        Quote: Bongo
        Most of the "Nguyenas" are short and very polite. But you shouldn't underestimate them.

        Once I read the story of a Russian volunteer who fought in Abkhazia ... He mentioned an Abkhaz woman who was greatly offended by the Georgians ... She began to take revenge on them! Guys could not match her in rage and fearlessness in battle! He was amazed how she could fall into a berserk state in battle and shoot from her hands (!) With DShK!
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 10: 03
          +1
          The DShK barrel weighs 35 kilograms and without a machine tool there, in fact, there is nothing to grab onto for firing from hands. It is a little inconvenient to fire from the DShK from the hands. And I also heard that four of us put this machine gun on an anti-aircraft machine gun on a tank, but we didn't have to observe it with our own eyes. Of course, it is possible to lift this machine gun with a heroic effort, but I want to remind you that before firing it still needs to be refueled and cocked with a tape.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 25 November 2021 11: 03
            0
            I am only referring to the story of a volunteer ... Perhaps the machine gun was, in fact, not a DShK, but a different one ... The narrator himself was surprised that the men could not (!) Do this, but the woman could ... she was so overwhelmed (!) rage ... one might say, rage! (By the way, the story did not say that she was also filling the receiver with the tape, holding the machine gun in her hands ...)
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 25 November 2021 20: 18
            +2
            And I also heard that four of them put this machine gun on an anti-aircraft machine gun,

            It is possible for two, I know from my own experience, but if there are four in the carriage, then they did not give anyone the pleasure of this. smile
        2. Toucan
          Toucan 26 November 2021 05: 18
          +2
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          He was amazed how she could fall into a berserk state in battle and shoot from her hands (!) With DShK!

          This is definitely fiction. The body weight of the DShK is too large, the design of the machine gun makes it impossible to shoot from the hands, and the recoil allows even aimed shooting, even from the machine, only in short bursts.
          Most likely confused with 7,62 mm PKM.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 26 November 2021 12: 24
            +1
            Quote: Tucan
            Most likely confused with 7,62 mm PKM.

            It is quite possible! Apparently, he was so inspired by how the Abkhaz woman deftly handled the PKM that "accidentally" increased his admiration for the woman-fighter in the story!
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 25 November 2021 20: 15
        +2
        This is my son to be thanked


        Well. then thanks to my son. )) And the Korean War will not go anywhere - we will always have time for it. bully drinks
  7. Wildcat
    Wildcat 24 November 2021 19: 13
    +11
    "Not only in the USA, but nowhere else in the world is there a serial analogue of our low-noise rifle VSSK" Exhaust "." - it's true.
    "In a conversation with one of the snipers of the Central Security Service of the FSB of the Russian Federation, who more than 10 years ago was directly involved in the development of the tactical and technical assignment for the rifle, he admitted -" we had a different idea of ​​the final result ... "." "received 5 weak primer pricks for 15 shots, which is strange in itself. And if three cartridges worked the second time, then the remaining three - only from the third. not fired cartridges. " "when firing different types of cartridges, the STP walks far beyond the passport circular deviation of the STP from the control point (CT) of 3 cm per 100 m - at this distance the PT, PT 2 and VPS groups are separated from each other by 15-25 cm!"
    "In general, I think that if" Exhaust "were tested according to army methods before being adopted by special power structures, it would not have the slightest chance to pass even the preliminary stage of testing. But this weapon is special, and, apparently, corresponding departments are assessed according to some special, unknown to me criteria. "

    The full article is here: https://www.kalashnikov.ru/spetsificheskij-vyhlop-12-7-mm-vintovka-vks-vyhlop/
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 24 November 2021 20: 09
      +5
      "when shooting with different types of cartridges, the STP walks far beyond the passport circular deviation

      Well, it depends on how far. In general - try to shoot, say, BPZ, Novosib and Partizan - you will also get discouraging results .. Although there is only one type of cartridge. If you want to hit well, aim your rifle at something specific and use it ..
      1. Obliterator
        Obliterator 26 November 2021 01: 56
        0
        Quote: paul3390
        Well, it depends on how far. In general - try to shoot, say, BPZ, Novosib and Partizan - you will also get discouraging results .. Although there is only one type of cartridge. If you want to hit well, aim your rifle at something specific and use it ..

        This advice should only be relevant for civilian shooters who purchase weapons and ammunition themselves. Military and police snipers must use the sniper complex - rifle + scope + cartridge. Everything should be uniform and well thought out there. If this complex is not formed, then it is not the snipers that are to blame, but the command and rear services.
  8. Observer2014
    Observer2014 24 November 2021 19: 22
    0
    In the movies, shoot "Russian sniper rifles" more often, literally. And they will be happy, like fame and popularity And in consequence and marketability: yes:
    This is not a mass weapon like a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Here, PR is needed for fame and popularity. yes For a number of specific reasons. request
    1. Split
      Split 24 November 2021 19: 46
      -3
      And the point is, this is a very highly specialized weapon ... it is used only by highly qualified snipers and, in fact, its export is not particularly profitable, because nevertheless - in the west there are samples of better and smaller calibers. Now anything more than 1 MOA is not considered a sniper rifle at all ... and a Marksman rifle at a distance of 400-800 meters no more
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 24 November 2021 19: 52
        -3
        Split (Anatoly)
        And the point is, this is a very highly specialized weapon ... it is used only by highly qualified snipers and, in fact, its export is not particularly profitable, because nevertheless - in the west there are samples of better and smaller calibers. Now anything more than 1 MOA is not considered a sniper rifle at all ... and a Marksman rifle at a distance of 400-800 meters no more
        Colleagues have outlined some specific reasons for you. yes
        1. Split
          Split 24 November 2021 20: 08
          -2
          Our rifles need better accuracy, the same svd with 2MOA at 400 meters (I shot only from a bear and svda) - even with experience in shooting, I hardly put it in a height. I understand that I am not a sniper and did not learn this, although from a small thing I have only 1 km s, I don’t remember what I was called lying at 50m. I remember there was a show like Best Shooter. There, in the 2nd or 4th season, there was a sniper who passed the Augan, I don’t remember where he shot it, roofing felts with a barret, roofing felts with a cheat ... from 1 shot without any calculators at a distance of a mile from the first shot he hit a circular target of 30 or 50 cm (I don’t remember, too lazy to look for a series) in wind conditions. This requires experience and constant training. Therefore, it makes sense in 12,7 with our 1 + MOA - in fact, Marksman and more for hitting equipment or manpower behind cover.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 24 November 2021 20: 38
            -2
            Our rifles need better accuracy, the same svd with 2MOA at 400 meters (I shot only from a bear and svda) - even with experience in shooting, I hardly put it in a height. I understand that I am not a sniper and did not learn this, although from a small thing I have only 1 km s, I don’t remember what I was called lying at 50m. I remember there was a show like Best Shooter. There, in the 2nd or 4th season, there was a sniper who passed the Augan, I don’t remember where he shot it, roofing felts with a barret, roofing felts with a cheat ... from 1 shot without any calculators at a distance of a mile from the first shot he hit a circular target of 30 or 50 cm (I don’t remember, too lazy to look for a series) in wind conditions. This requires experience and constant training. Therefore, it makes sense in 12,7 with our 1 + MOA - in fact, Marksman and more for hitting equipment or manpower behind cover.
            And here's another for you. For a snack. And with an intellectual background, so to speak. Thank you colleague for the additions Split (Anatoly)
            hi
          2. Wildcat
            Wildcat 24 November 2021 21: 31
            +4
            our rifles need better accuracy
            A good rifle, + good cartridges, + for long-range shooting IMHO, the optics are a little different and possibly something like portable rangefinders, weather stations, calculators and a subject who calculates all this data and gives data, and then corrects (from his optics ).

            I remember there was a show like Best Shooter. There, in the 2nd or 4th season, there was a sniper who passed the Augan, I don’t remember where he shot it, roofing felts with a barret, roofing felts with a cheat ... from 1 shot without any calculators at a distance of a mile from the first shot he hit a circular target of 30 or 50 cm
            - Well, if there is a range, IMHO, was it known? And the wind can be taken into account (grass-bushes-flags), is that the result?

            Therefore, it makes sense in 12,7 with our 1 + MOA - in fact, Marksman and more for hitting equipment or manpower behind cover.
            IMHO, never Marksman (this is more likely SVD and its offspring), but the reincarnation of the "good old" "fortress gun", for example Krnka-Gan: "Bullets were used of two types: lead, to defeat openly located manpower, and steel, for When shooting at 600 steps (427 m), the average dispersion radius turned out to be 335 mm, at 1200 steps (853 m) - 860 mm, at 1500 steps (1067 m) - 1045 mm. A steel bullet from 1000 steps pierced 2,5 a bag of earth, and from 1500 steps - one bag. When firing at a 7,62-mm armor plate from a distance of 1200 steps, all the bullets pierced it through, and from 1500 steps only half of the bullets pierced the plate, and half of the bullets got stuck in it. " https://zen.yandex.ru/media/guntest/krepostnoe-ruje-krnkagana-obr-1876-g-5d45597cc49f2900ad498453
            1. Split
              Split 24 November 2021 21: 42
              0
              Well, if there is a range, IMHO, was it known? And the wind can be taken into account (grass-bushes-flags), is that the result?
              Yes, there the distance was known for sure + there were flags ... But I remember that the others there simply smeared tin, although professional arrows. I was rooting for him just. By the way, almost in the final, he deliberately missed so that Chris Reed would go to the final, because he needed 100k more. The man is great! good
              1. Wildcat
                Wildcat 24 November 2021 22: 40
                +3
                Hmm, I'll have to see what the Best Shooter is ... it seems that a few years ago I saw something like this, I was sick and watched ... somewhere in some lonely house they hold shooters, shooting competitions from pistols to guns and one leaves every time?
                1. Split
                  Split 24 November 2021 22: 45
                  0
                  Yeah, he's Top Shot (I think so). 4 seasons, came out 10 years ago. Season 2 is the most top-end IMHO. A year ago, somewhere revised good drinks
                  1. Wildcat
                    Wildcat 24 November 2021 22: 58
                    +2
                    Exactly, I found it!
                    Looked. By the way, there are 5 seasons, the last one is all old. Recommend. good
                    drinks
          3. Sergey Aleksandrovich
            Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 09: 55
            +2
            A mile is about 1,6 km. I don’t know if you had to shoot from small-caliber cannons 23 or 30 mm at such distances, but I will take the liberty of claiming that to get into a circle of 50 cm, let alone 30 cm at such distances, even from a cannon, and from the first shot, practically impossible. And the cannon has a stronger barrel and a heavier projectile.
            Although, if this was shown in American cinema .. They can't deceive ..
            1. Split
              Split 25 November 2021 14: 11
              0
              I don't remember exactly the series - there are 20 pieces per season for 40 minutes wassat I'm just saying that a combat sniper hit the target with 1 shot ... and the rest - for more than a minute, for sure, and someone finally fired from the participants for 5 minutes. Perhaps there was 1k yards / meters ... of course, a year ago I reviewed the 2nd season, but again, from memory, I will not say the exact parameters. But most likely towards the end, somewhere after the 10th episode, tk. the participants were already without teams. I can flip through at my leisure - unsubscribe

              ZY found, season 2 episode 8, the first competition. 900 meters, 75cm target. Watch Nada without translation, I can't hear it with dubbing (I can't find it on YouTube without translation). Exactly 1000 yards (914 meters) - written. But I'm not sure about 75cm - I think we are talking about 2,5 feet (76,2 cm).
            2. Split
              Split 25 November 2021 14: 36
              0
              well and, accordingly, the M107 barret. It turns out the goal is about 2MOA recourse Well overall real
  9. Andrey Moskvin
    Andrey Moskvin 24 November 2021 19: 36
    0
    Bronze bullets probably break the barrel?
    1. Split
      Split 24 November 2021 20: 13
      +1
      It seems that they usually do it from brass, but if they do it, then the devil is not so terrible as his baby. At least in the vidos of the main western canals, when they talk about all-metal ones, they everywhere speak of brass. Moreover, up to sufficiently powerful cartridges with high speed
      1. Andrey Moskvin
        Andrey Moskvin 24 November 2021 20: 29
        0
        Written bronze. Bronze is much harder than brass. I remember earlier, some of them sharpened their jackans to hunt, so they said, a bullet is a beast, but the barrel will not last long. Today the choice is probably huge, I am not a hunter.
        1. Split
          Split 24 November 2021 20: 42
          +1
          Well, you can't shoot her with a full check, it's either from a removable shoot or half-shells. Techcrim seems to do it, although the bullets are not of our production. I shot only Mayer and Brenneke bullets from a half-check (the second was full, IZH -27). I can only judge by bullets by vidos recourse but if you google it quickly, you can see that they have Teflon belts for a hike. Bronde has a casting strength and a hardness higher than ST3 steel. In our country, due to the lack of copper, bullets made of mild steel were used, but yes, it was noted that the wear was colossal ... but in the conditions of war it was not critical. I think most likely the belts are made of softer metal (melchior is difficult to distinguish by color, for example)
  10. far diu
    far diu 24 November 2021 20: 24
    -1
    The best rifle in my opinion is the Barrett M82. High enough efficiency to destroy sensitive enemy equipment such as parked planes, radars, trucks and various other important objects at a great distance. Also used for remote destruction of explosive objects. The rifle can also be used to engage enemy soldiers hiding behind cover and walls, as its powerful ammunition can penetrate bricks and concrete with its 12,7x99mm 50 BMG, which was originally developed and used in the Browning M2 heavy machine gun.
    Also has a recoil reduction mechanism. The muzzle brake absorbs 70% of the recoil. Reduces the forces acting on the internal mechanisms and the arrow.
    1. Oleg812spb
      Oleg812spb 25 November 2021 00: 38
      +2
      In your opinion, Barrett is generally an exclusive one?
  11. Old ensign
    Old ensign 24 November 2021 20: 33
    -8
    Compared to Barrett, all Russian 12,7mm rifles are junk. In no significant parameter can Russian rifles compete closely with the barrett. When you take Barrett into your hands, you realize that this is a real work of military art. From 600 meters in a strong crosswind, the bullet hits the target.

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    2. Intruder
      Intruder 24 November 2021 22: 19
      +6
      From 600 meters in a strong crosswind, the bullet hits the target.
      This is at what "strong", and even six hundred !?
  12. Basarev
    Basarev 24 November 2021 21: 49
    0
    And under 14,5 there are no rifles?
    1. Abram Ivanovich
      Abram Ivanovich 25 November 2021 14: 08
      +1
      No and never will. As I already said, special cartridges are not released for them, but machine-gun fire ... Probably, it is still better from Vladimirov right away :) The result will definitely be more solid.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 25 November 2021 15: 54
        0
        To tell the truth, it would be nice to organize the production of special and simple rifle caliber. Or even get away from the welt, we have been toiling for more than a century.
  13. beeper
    beeper 24 November 2021 22: 19
    +1
    It is strange that with such a powerful cartridge, Russian designers used a gas outlet, and not automatic equipment with a long barrel stroke ?!
    The rifle would have been simpler and lighter, and the shooter would not have "kicked" so much in the shoulder when fired. winked
    In addition, it is possible to arrange an adjustment in the barrel guides, which makes it possible to reduce the dispersion of bullets (due to the fault of the weapon, and not of the cartridges - the quality of the cartridges, "something else"! winked ) to an acceptable indicator.
    1. Oleg812spb
      Oleg812spb 25 November 2021 00: 54
      +2
      Russian designers do not like to use schemes with a movable barrel for small arms (except for short-barreled weapons) because of their specific "capriciousness", partially mentioned by you.
  14. KKND
    KKND 25 November 2021 07: 34
    +2
    Quote: Sergey Linnik
    The official entry into service of the AVSK rifle took place in 2014. This rifle is used not only by snipers of the FSB and FSO, but also in army special forces. This weapon was successfully used in the armed conflict in the east of Ukraine.

    Hello, Sergey! Uh ... how did the censorship let this happen? belay
    The snipers in our army have finally started to get decent equipment, after the Soviet period with a doctrine that did not pay much attention to the role of snipers in the third world war.
    1. Bongo
      26 November 2021 03: 34
      +4
      Quote: KKND
      Hello, Sergey! Uh ... how did the censorship let this happen?

      Kirill, hello!
      Duc, it's not a secret. Much has been written about this in weapons magazines and often discussed on specialized forums.
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 25 November 2021 11: 43
    +1
    It is stated that when firing from the OSV-96 rifle, the dispersion diameter of 5 shots at a distance of 100 m does not exceed 50 mm. The best accuracy is given by cartridges with a bronze bullet, turned on a precision machine. But these handcrafted cartridges are expensive and have limited use.


    Interestingly, modern 5-axis machines cannot solve this issue?
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 12: 05
      +1
      The question is certainly interesting, in theory, two coordinates should be enough there. The range of issues solved during the manufacture is unknown.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 25 November 2021 12: 43
        +1
        The quality of the workpiece itself, and the accuracy of processing ...... everything.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 12: 45
          0
          If. There is also unevenness of the workpiece material, deformation of the product during processing. There can be a lot of things. It's just that the problem isn't detailed. For me, for example, the very form of a mass bullet is not clear, there are already questions for it. From the point of view of primitive aerodynamics, the shape is not optimal, except that other laws operate on supersonic.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 25 November 2021 12: 57
            +1
            I wrote about the preparation ... and everything else has long been researched by us and in the west. In the end, you can buy and see ready-made cartridges for Western rifles.
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 25 November 2021 13: 03
              0
              Who knows. Maybe they just don't want to bother, they consider the issue to be secondary. Somehow snipers in the Great Patriotic War got along with our ammunition and showed good results. Or did they have cartridges for Lend-Lease?
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 25 November 2021 13: 17
                +1
                Previously, "not bad" was different .... but now one will finish shooting and kill the enemy, and the second will finish shooting and will not hit. And in most cases it is the industry's ability to make the desired barrel, sight, thermal imager, cartridge.
  16. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 25 November 2021 12: 52
    +2
    Good overview. And qualified.
  17. bk0010
    bk0010 25 November 2021 21: 06
    0
    So, instead of moving the bolt of the rifle when reloading, the shooter moves the barrel of the weapon.
    IMHO, so-so idea.
    To reduce the sound of a shot, there is a large-sized silencer that attenuates the sound of a shot to the level of a 7,62-mm SVD rifle.
    It's somehow not quiet at all.
    1. stankow
      stankow 28 November 2021 21: 59
      0
      The enemy will hear it all the same. But it is important not to be identified with an individual caliber.
  18. buv59
    buv59 26 November 2021 05: 15
    0
    ASVK sniper rifle, and AVSK is mentioned in the text a couple of times - a mess
  19. Arkebusier
    Arkebusier 26 November 2021 19: 19
    0
    Ach, Freunde der Waffen. Ein Streukreis von 5 cm ist keine "Glanzleistung" (OCB-96) für ein Scharfschützengewehr.
    Das erreicht mein alter Mosin-Nagant Sniper (Baujahr 1929) mit Bleigeschossen und schwacher Pulverladung. Siehe Foto
    Ah, friends of arms. A 5cm circle of dispersion is not a "flashy achievement" (OCB-96) for a sniper rifle.
    My old sniper Mosin-Nagant (built in 1929) achieved this with lead bullets and a weak powder charge. See photo

    1. Hitriy Zhuk
      Hitriy Zhuk 29 November 2021 22: 48
      +1
      Mosin-Nagan is 7,62.
      Here 12.7

      If we talk simply about accuracy - yes, not ideal.
      But with such a caliber, wherever you get into the case, whoever you hit will get bad.
  20. Hitriy Zhuk
    Hitriy Zhuk 29 November 2021 22: 43
    0
    Isn't it easier to bipod and optics (I think the muffler will fly away with the bullet) to Kord or Pecheneg at least. Or even at KPVT.
    The calculation of at least two snouts will be dragged away.
    Is the accuracy lower? Well, the way is longer.