Advanced heavy UAV from General Atomics can carry 16 missiles

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Modern serial UAV MQ-9C Gray Eagle

The American company General Atomics Aeronautical Systems has proactively developed a new heavy reconnaissance and strike unmanned aerial vehicle. It is distinguished by its increased size and weight, which also made it possible to increase technical and combat characteristics. To date, the project has been successfully brought to flight tests, but its prospects remain in question.

According to unofficial data


The development of a new project was reported on November 14 by the American publication Breaking Defense. Information about the existence of the project, its current status and technical features was obtained from two unnamed industry representatives familiar with the topic. At the same time, General Atomics does not comment on such messages in any way.



The project is being developed on an initiative basis and in an atmosphere of secrecy. However, an official presentation is expected soon. According to sources, in December, the development company intends to present a new UAV, as well as disclose its name and main tactical and technical characteristics.


By now, the project has progressed far enough. Major design work has been completed and the first prototype was built earlier this year. Flight tests began in the summer at the Desert Horizon airfield in the Mojave Desert. What progress was made in the following months is not reported.

Sources claim that when creating a new UAV, the developments on previous projects of General Atomics were used, as well as new solutions were introduced. Thanks to this, it was possible to increase the main technical and combat characteristics while maintaining favorable operational parameters. In particular, the requirements for airfields have been reduced and the combat load has been sharply increased.

Place in the market


A promising UAV was developed on the initiative of General Atomics and according to its own terms of reference. When forming the latter, the requirements for equipment from the latest Pentagon programs were taken into account. In particular, one of the "sources of inspiration" was the current program of the Special Operations Command Armed Overwatch.


The US Armed Forces are considered as the main customer for the new equipment. At the same time, the development company has not yet discussed a new project with the Pentagon and has not presented it with a ready-made prototype. In addition, the military department has not yet launched new contests and programs in which there would be a place for a new UAV. As a result, its prospects in the context of the rearmament of the American army are still questionable, but the developer company hopes for the best.

According to sources, the new project takes into account the interests of potential customers from third countries. In particular, for this very purpose, General Atomics tried to improve the takeoff and landing characteristics and reduce the basing requirements. However, it is too early to talk about real orders.

Estimated appearance


Sources say that the promising heavy UAV is similar in design to the serial MQ-1C Gray Eagle. At the same time, the growth of the main characteristics, among other things, is ensured by an increase in the size of the airframe. This means that the length and span of the new wing drone exceeded 8,5 and 17 m respectively. Accordingly, the takeoff weight must be significantly greater than the 1633 kg unmanned MQ-1C.


The serial MQ-1C is powered by a Thielert Centurion 1.7 piston engine with 165 hp. The type and characteristics of the power plant for the new UAV is unknown. Apparently, a more powerful piston engine is used that can compensate for the increase in take-off weight. The exact level of flight performance has not been reported, but it can be assumed that they remained at the level of the previous UAV.

Due to its successful aerodynamics, a sufficiently powerful engine and a solid chassis, the drone obtains high takeoff and landing characteristics. It requires a runway no more than 800 feet (less than 250) m long. It can be used on unpaved airfields and highways, on aircraft carriers, etc.

Avionics and general aircraft systems for a promising UAV, with some changes, are borrowed from existing samples. Thanks to this, the drone can automatically take off and land, go through a given route, etc. The capabilities of automation in the context of combat use are not specified.


UAV MQ-9B SkyGuardian

The new UAV is distinguished by an increased combat load. It can simultaneously carry up to 16 AGM-114 Hellfire guided missiles with a total weight of approx. 800 kg. This is twice the maximum load of the MQ-1C or four times the ammunition load of the older MQ-1. Apparently, like its predecessors, a promising drone will be able to carry not only Hellfire missiles, but also another controlled weapon for work on ground and air targets.

Sources note that the increase in ammunition was obtained at the cost of some losses. Thus, the possible duration of the flight was reduced, as well as the volumes and carrying capacity to accommodate another load decreased. However, such shortcomings are not considered fatal and are proposed to be overcome by proper planning of combat missions.

Development without breakthroughs


Breaking Defense and its sources have so far disclosed only the most general information about the new heavy UAV from General Atomics. However, it also allows us to draw some conclusions about the conceptual and technical features of the project. It also becomes possible to assess the commercial prospects of the new drone.


It is argued that the new UAV was created on the basis of the existing model and inherits a number of systems and functions, and the differences are mainly related to the size and ammunition. This means that the promising project from General Atomics is only an option for the further development of existing structures. There are no fundamental innovations, and therefore the project does not claim to be a breakthrough one.

The main goal of the project, apparently, was the maximum increase in ammunition and an increase in overall combat qualities. On the whole, they coped with this technical task, and the UAV with 16 air-to-surface missiles on board is quite capable of attracting potential customers. However, they will reportedly have to put up with the disadvantages of increased take-off weight and shorter flight times.

Thus, in fact, we are talking about the creation of a new UAV within the existing line of technology produced by General Atomics. With its help, such a line is expanded towards an increase in key technical, combat and operational characteristics. Thanks to this, a potential buyer has a wider choice, and the development company has an increased chance of receiving another order.


A promising heavy UAV was developed without an order from specific structures and according to its own technical specifications. This circumstance may limit its commercial prospects, both in the United States and abroad. At the same time, the project is not bound by the requirements of a specific customer, which gives developers a certain freedom of action and allows them to take into account the potential requests of different buyers.

On the eve of the premiere


General Atomics has extensive experience in the field of medium and heavy reconnaissance and strike UAVs, and a number of its developments of this kind have been adopted by several countries. The emergence of a new drone of this class was actually only a matter of time. And according to the latter news, the company was really engaged in the development of such a project.

It is reported that the official presentation of the new UAV will take place in the coming weeks. The developer will reveal the appearance, characteristics and capabilities of the new unmanned complex, and this will clarify the already established picture. In addition, the first information about participation in various tenders and even about negotiations on future contracts may appear.
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  1. -8
    19 November 2021 19: 20
    It can carry, or it can fall. All the will of God and the desire of our air defense missile defense. wassat
  2. -5
    19 November 2021 19: 23
    to contain China is a good thing, just a small run-up is needed. 16 rockets to help him.
    1. -4
      19 November 2021 20: 10
      And what does the small run-up have to do with it? Do you want to launch from an aircraft carrier? Even if we assume that what takes off, it will not land - for sure.
      1. 0
        19 November 2021 21: 30
        Tai can't?
  3. +1
    19 November 2021 19: 27
    Why don't they make unobtrusive UAVs? in my opinion, an inconspicuous twin of 2 UAVs is already asking for itself (and possibly a grid from an UAV). on one radar on the other a pair of missiles in-in. Well, the tanker is the same for them.
    1. -5
      19 November 2021 20: 35
      S-70 ,, Hunter ,,
    2. +4
      19 November 2021 21: 35
      Quote: Momento
      Why don't they make unobtrusive UAVs?

      They do.
      Here is the first flight of the X-45A in 2002.

      Here is nEUROn, France, 2012


      Only they are useless wunderwales.
      1. 0
        19 November 2021 22: 23
        Until they come up with complete protection of the communication channel, UAVs will not replace fighters. At the moment, MADL is only used in the f-35 and in the B-2.
        Maybe for the US UAV, the rq-180 will be used as a communications center with the headquarters, but this is not certain.
        1. 0
          29 January 2022 06: 27
          Until they come up with a complete protection of the communication channel
          They came up with it decades ago - do you see the hump in front of the apparatus?
          Below it is a parabolic antenna that looks up at the satellite.
          To audition, score, etc. this channel must be located above the UAV just above it.
          But then it’s better to shoot down, since they found out.
          And in a normal situation, no rab will do anything to him at all.
          1. 0
            17 February 2022 07: 46
            They do not communicate through a laser, but by radio waves, which are also very weak in power, and there, probably, an antenna turned 180 degrees can be clogged with interference. You yourself arm yourself with a formula and calculate the amplitude of the wave, with such indicators, the lapel does not particularly solve it.
    3. KCA
      +2
      19 November 2021 21: 36
      What tasks do they set, and do such UAVs do, do you need an inconspicuous reconnaissance officer? There is RQ-170, RQ-180, you need to bomb the Papuans with an iron - there is MQ-9A
  4. -7
    19 November 2021 19: 34
    Quote: Momento
    Why don't they make unobtrusive UAVs? in my opinion, an inconspicuous twin of 2 UAVs is already asking for itself (and possibly a grid from an UAV). on one radar on the other a pair of missiles in-in. Well, the tanker is the same for them.

    I think in the future they will make a stealth UAV. Now the concept of the UAV is a consumable, which is not a pity (in contrast to the pilot, which has to be taught for a long time). In Syria, Israeli f35 and f16 drop precision bombs from a distance of up to 110 km. So far, no air defense system can shoot down such bombs.
    1. +4
      19 November 2021 19: 49
      Quote: Old ensign
      So far, no air defense system can shoot down such bombs.

      Who told you that? smile
      Anything can be intercepted. Even an artillery projectile, which flies in different ways faster than any bomb and has a smaller reflection area. The question is whether there are appropriate tools on the ground and in whose hands they are.
    2. 0
      19 November 2021 20: 48
      Quote: Old ensign
      So far, no air defense system can shoot down such bombs.

      They can and do!
    3. 0
      19 November 2021 21: 00
      you can shoot down a planning bomb. it seems that this goal should not be difficult for air defense. if the radar sees it. but it is much easier and more effective to shoot down its carrier)
  5. 0
    19 November 2021 19: 46
    Everything was slightly increased (load-bearing surfaces, engine power, fuel capacity), plus retractable landing gear was made. Due to this, the payload has increased. That's all innovation. Neither good nor bad. Just a little more.
    1. 0
      19 November 2021 20: 49
      Quote: Al_lexx
      Everything was slightly increased (load-bearing surfaces, engine power, fuel capacity), plus retractable landing gear was made.

      Yes, they just increased it, picked up the engine and all the innovations!
  6. -6
    19 November 2021 20: 01
    Quote: Al_lexx
    Quote: Old ensign
    So far, no air defense system can shoot down such bombs.

    Who told you that? smile
    Anything can be intercepted. Even an artillery projectile, which flies in different ways faster than any bomb and has a smaller reflection area. The question is whether there are appropriate tools on the ground and in whose hands they are.

    What will you intercept? Such bombs are thrown from a height of 10 km, the bomb flies at a tremendous (for a bomb) speed. How do you aim the interceptor missile on the target? The bomb has no motor.
    1. +3
      19 November 2021 20: 12
      How does LCD shoot down mines? How do BOPS shoot down by KAZ?
      1. 0
        19 November 2021 20: 23
        Not closer than 7 km. If it doesn’t bring you closer. And even not in the area from 7 to 10-11, it is difficult to fight mines. They are trying to solve this problem with laser means.
    2. -1
      20 November 2021 14: 47
      Quote: Old ensign
      What will you intercept? Such bombs are thrown from a height of 10 km, the bomb flies at a tremendous (for a bomb) speed. How do you aim the interceptor missile on the target? The bomb has no motor.

      "Lieutenant", what are you talking about? What does the motor-non-motor have to do with it? laughing
      There is an objective reflecting surface of a moving target, which for a Doppler radar, which is in any air defense system, as an SRC is not a question in terms of detection.
      The height is 10 km, the same is not a question. The same "Armor" easily takes such targets, and it was developed specifically for them (gliding bombs, cruise missiles, etc.).
      In general, not a test. Sit down, two. smile

      ZY
      Well, yes, of course, the drop / launch range is about 100 km. For a medium-range air defense system, it is also not a question if the enemy is in your airspace. But after all, the Israelis, the bunchy guys, are throwing bombs from foreign territory. So, "Carapace" is right here in the rifle, unless, of course, it covers the attacked object.
      1. -1
        11 January 2022 06: 47
        But after all, the Israelis, bumpy guys and throw bombs from foreign territory.

        - You, brave "hero of Russia", of course you know where the F-35s are throwing bombs on at Iranian targets in Syria ?! wink Did Konashenkov tell you the whole truth about it? laughing lol
        There is an objective reflecting surface of a moving target, which for a Doppler radar, which is in any air defense system, as an SRC is not a question in terms of detection.
        The height is 10 km, the same is not a question. The same "Armor" easily takes such targets, and it was developed specifically for them (gliding bombs, cruise missiles, etc.).

        - Small diameter bombs - GBU-39 and GBU-53A have a very small RCS. "Carapace" even takes such targets, then at a too small distance, when it is too late to aim and launch a rocket.
        Tested a hundred times in Syria. Or two hundred ... lol
    3. 0
      29 January 2022 06: 28
      The bomb is steel, the radar seeker sees it perfectly.
  7. -3
    19 November 2021 20: 28
    Well, money is immeasurable, how much they want and how much they will print, and therefore you can work miracles. we have to count the money, and therefore if we do something, then do it so that the return is double-triple in quality. However, we also have UAVs and are not inferior to the American ones. Our mind must be strategic, we must not be mistaken, and therefore we must now do more science, education of our multinational youth and their patriotic attitude, and then everything will work out.
  8. -2
    19 November 2021 20: 32
    Quote: Sergey Z.
    And what does the small run-up have to do with it? Do you want to launch from an aircraft carrier? Even if we assume that what takes off, it will not land - for sure.

    There are many small islands near China.
  9. -1
    19 November 2021 20: 43
    Quote: Intruder
    How do you aim an interceptor missile on a target? The bomb has no motor.
    Well, if only from external target designation from another complex of a large and land / sea and to direct by illumination, otherwise there is no way ... !!!

    It feels like you understand the topic.
  10. 0
    19 November 2021 22: 12
    It is distinguished by its increased size and weight, which also made it possible to increase technical and combat characteristics.

    In this case, it is important to observe a compromise between carrying capacity and RCS. If it can be knocked down with inexpensive means such as Arrow, Thor, Shell, then nafig it is needed, but if only starting with Buk it is already more interesting
  11. 0
    20 November 2021 13: 01
    Something all is somehow "conservative", in comparison with the same Turks, for example.
  12. 0
    1 January 2022 06: 05
    I don’t understand why old decommissioned aircraft are not used as UAVs? After all, it’s not a pity to lose them, and in terms of combat capabilities, they are much cooler than all these bayraktars and other hunters.
    1. +1
      11 January 2022 06: 48
      - You can see them too far away ...