Troopers - America's main reserve

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We present to your attention the thoughts of the editor-in-chief of the magazine "1945" Daniel Gouret, a specialist in the field of analysis, who also worked in the US government. Gure is a supporter of the projection of force with the help of rapid reaction forces and in this material substantiates the need to restructure the naval fleet towards an increase in ships capable of carrying out amphibious operations.

Missiles, from tactical to intercontinental, the growing power of modern air defense systems, tactical and assault aviation - if tomorrow is a place for rapid reaction forces?



Since its inception, these forces have served the United States as a means of deterring aggression, a means of responding to crisis situations and, in the event of war, a front line of defense.

However, today, in the era weapons long-range, the relevant services of the US Department of Defense are looking for applications that should ensure the effective use of rapid reaction forces. Especially in the case of conflicts between the leading powers of the world.

If the United States participates in such conflicts, the rapid reaction forces will have to become a kind of reserve, which is not only obliged to survive the first phase of the war, but become the factor that can bring victory.


Many branches of the armed forces are working on these issues, but the most radical changes in structure and concept of use are planned tomorrow in the US Marine Corps.

The Marine Corps is making sweeping changes to prepare for high-level conflict, especially in the Indo-Pacific theater of operations. According to Marine Corps Commander General David Berger, by 2030, the new Marine Corps will become "a light, self-sufficient, highly mobile Naval Expeditionary Force capable of deploying in coastal areas where enemy weapons are hit."

The main force, which will form the basis of the planned reserve for hostilities, will be the high mobility airborne teams of the US Navy and the US Marine Corps. These units are referred to as ARG / MEU.


ARG / MEU groups can be considered unique, mainly due to their high mobility and flexibility of use. High readiness of ARG / MEU groups, capable of carrying out almost the entire spectrum of military missions characteristic of peacetime and without the slightest delay to move to wartime operations that require a greater presence of equipment to carry out combat missions.

In the event of war, ARG / MEU teams must be present in all theaters of war. The main value of the groups is that with minimal support in several cover ships playing the role of air defense and missile defense centers, groups can land in specified areas and strike, direct strike aviation forces, and suppress radio communications using mobile electronic warfare devices, paralyzing enemy command centers on land.

The ARG typically consists of three ships - LHD or LHA, LPD and LSD - which not only provide transportation of MEU air and ground elements, but can also serve as a permanent base at sea.


On the basis of the ships, it is possible to deploy medical support centers for military personnel, mobile hospitals, reconnaissance information processing centers and various repair and support services.

LHD-class ships are very useful in this type of activity, as they can carry a lot of useful equipment and supplies, ensuring the independence of groups from logistics supply centers on land.

In addition, equipment on board ships and technical reserves are capable of providing both the launch of helicopters and vertical take-off and landing aircraft, as well as the repair and maintenance of aircraft.


Large amphibious assault ships of the LHD and LPD class allow ARG / MEU groups to deploy their own air force consisting of MV-22 Osprey and AH-1W troop carriers, UH-1N attack helicopters and CH-53E heavy helicopters, vertical takeoff and landing "Harrier" or F-35B.

What is the strength and mobility of the MEU Group? The group consists of a reinforced infantry battalion with its own command and control, combat support, logistics, vehicles, indirect fire weapons and aviation elements. Once deployed, the battalion can be reinforced with additional Marine Corps, Special Forces, and even army personnel.

That is, in fact, the battalion can be deployed into an airborne assault regiment, equipped with all the necessary support tools, capable of operating also in the "gray" zone, that is, before the start of an open military conflict.

Last year, ARG / MEU demonstrated their ability to respond to crises, including by operating with non-combatants.

The ARG of Iwo Jima and the 24th MEU were rapid reaction units involved in the evacuation operation at Kabul airport in Afghanistan.

In August 2021, ARG / MEU conducted deployment operations in Haiti, where about 20 people were affected by a massive earthquake. The LPD-000 Arlington was dispatched to Haiti to provide assistance, carrying about two hundred marines, a fleet surgical brigade and a detachment of 24 MH-2R helicopters.


The assistance provided to Haiti was an example of the clear implementation of the tasks set by the ARG / MEU.

To operate properly in full independence, the US Navy and Marine Corps have a constant need for at least 31 large amphibious assault ships. But the demand for ARG / MEU constantly exceeds the supply.

The Navy is struggling to achieve the goal of keeping three ARG / MEUs at sea close to alert. But currently there are not enough ships, and the situation is far from ideal.

Airborne troops not only need enough ships to meet the ongoing demand for ARG / MEU capabilities, but also more modern and combat-ready ships.

Currently, in the interests of the navy, two new classes of amphibious assault ships are being developed at once, with greater capacity and greater strike capabilities.

The first is an LHA-class amphibious assault ship, essentially an aircraft carrier that can also carry troops, equipment and supplies.

The second is the San Antonio-class landing platform, LPD-17 dock ship, model II. The LPD-17 M.II is designed primarily for deployment of troops and equipment, but can fly helicopters and perform a number of complex functions, including command and control, advanced medical assistance, and logistical support for ground forces.

The fleet of amphibious assault ships is supported by a sophisticated industrial base encompassing thousands of workers and companies in approximately forty-three states. It is a critical multi-billion dollar sector of the economy within a larger naval shipbuilding base.

And an important aspect: the state of this sector primarily depends on how sustainably financed and long-term the program for the construction of amphibious ships turns out to be.

Meanwhile, today the United States is in an era of austerity in the military budget. But even at such a time, it makes sense to build amphibious ships to the detriment of other classes on the basis that a dock ship is more versatile and cheaper than an aircraft carrier or cruiser.

In addition, building ships in series saves significant costs. As Rob Whitman, a member of the armaments committee, noted in his proposal, the Navy is saving billions of dollars by using this principle to acquire aircraft carriers, destroyers and submarines. This approach should be extended to the procurement of landing craft.

ARG / MEU is arguably the best combat reserve force for the United States to tackle the full spectrum of challenges facing the country in times of peace, crisis and war.


ARG / MEU have a range of capabilities needed to address regional instability, respond to emerging threats, provide humanitarian support, and, in the event of conflict, to deliver powerful air and ground strikes. With continued purchases of LHA and LPD-17, the force will provide vital support to US national security and defense policy for decades to come.

The development perspective is clear: the projection of force into certain areas is possible not only with the help of strike forces led by aircraft carriers. Spot, dosed application is possible with ARG / MEU and amphibious assault ships.
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  1. -24
    5 November 2021 05: 31
    Reading Roman Skomorokhov for many years, and then I get confused in "concepts", "landing" from the Americans, from whom, from Puerto Ricans? Well, yes ... Americans have strong guys .. money again ..- no motivation. No, we will not go for "Sechin, Miller and Putin", but we will break for our Motherland ... so that they will run barefoot to their omeriki across the ocean. IMHO. but in general, war is stupid. it is a distraction from internal problems, and a way to "raise the economy".
    1. +2
      5 November 2021 11: 14
      Yes, they have motivation, you won't earn much there, they go for other reasons.
      The salary of a worker in the United States is roughly the same as that of a soldier. Mostly recruits from the provinces, naive, who think that they are bringing light to the world and are fighting terrorism.
      1. -5
        5 November 2021 13: 27
        Yes, they have motivation, you won't earn much there, they go for other reasons.
        The salary of a worker in the United States is roughly the same as that of a soldier. Mostly recruits from the provinces, naive, who think that they are bringing light to the world and are fighting terrorism.


        An obvious contradiction. In the "hinterland" incomes are noticeably lower than those of a skilled worker in a large industrial center. Plus benefits and bonuses (college tuition fees, for example), health insurance.
        Farmer children ... are there many of them left? Fit in the Red Book.
        And there are not so many naive people there either.
        1. +7
          5 November 2021 15: 35
          There are enough farmers there. The USA is the largest grain producer.
          1. -3
            5 November 2021 19: 21
            3 million 200 thousand farmers, that is, one percent of the US population. There are, of course, also permanent and temporary hired agricultural workers.
        2. +4
          5 November 2021 20: 18
          I'm talking about the average worker in a factory in industry. In the army, like ours, they do not go for money, but by vocation.
      2. +2
        5 November 2021 20: 36
        Quote: Artemion3
        recruits from the hinterland, naive, who think they are bringing light to the world and are fighting terrorism.

        Well said ... about recruits ... But the point is that they have mercenaries, not "recruited." But this is so, as a side note. Again, I like my beloved SKOMOROKHOV with his hack copied from the Amsk propaganda brochure about the ILC. Don't believe me? - In vain!
        Well, for example, evaluate at least this PENTAGON propaganda PURL:
        These forces from the moment they appeared served the United States as a means of deterring aggression, a means of responding to crisis situations and, in the event of war, a front line of defense.

        I don’t remember anything when it was someone from the United States who threatened AGGRESSION? Britain tried, but then there was no US as such.
        But the "exploits" of mad dogs in a foreign land are inscribed in bloody letters in the analys of history.
        The Marines instilled the interests of the rulers of the United States, fighting in Cuba, with revolutionaries and rebels in the Dominican Republic, Mexico, Nicaragua and Haiti. In addition, the US ILC participated in the suppression of the "Boxer Rebellion" in China. And the Guide to the fight against partisans and insurgents, published in shaggy 1935, is being studied by them to this day.
        The question is: - Who is it that "threatened aggression" to the States so far from their native shores?
        This is probably why in the operational documents of the US Armed Forces it is written that the largest landing operation is called INVASION, and this (whatever one may say) is aggression, attack, not defense.
        1. 0
          5 November 2021 22: 39
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          This is probably why in the operational documents of the US Armed Forces it is written that the largest amphibious operation is called INVASION

          Can you give a link to these operational documents? And then suddenly you were mistaken when translating the term "INVASION".
          1. +2
            5 November 2021 23: 28
            Quote: OCefir
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            This is probably why in the operational documents of the US Armed Forces it is written that the largest amphibious operation is called INVASION

            Can you give a link to these operational documents? And then suddenly you were mistaken when translating the term "INVASION".
            Amphibious operations on NATO docks (depending on the composition of the participants and the scale) are divided into: invasion, capture and raid.
            Largest operation invasion type is the Normandy Airborne Operation Overlord on the landing of US-British troops in Northern France, launched on June 6, 1944. As part of the landing, there were 4 armies (2,8 million personnel), 3 airborne divisions, 1213 warships, 5786 transports and auxiliary ships participated. As a result, a new front was opened in the war against Germany.
            Захват - an amphibious operation of operational significance, carried out with the aim of capturing and holding coastal areas, bridgeheads, naval bases, large ports, islands, etc. It is carried out by the forces of the fleet and marines. The landing force usually includes an expeditionary division of the Marine Corps, which, if necessary, can be reinforced with units of the ground forces and the air force.
            Raid - landing actions of tactical significance.
            An example of a raid is the operation of the Ministry of Railways in 1991 to capture about. Failak and about. Bubiyan in the Persian Gulf. The landing of the MP units was carried out from airborne landing vehicles and helicopters. The ships carried out fire support to a depth of 20 km.
            To mislead the enemy, Demonstration actions the purpose of which, as a rule, is to mislead the enemy about the selected area for the MDO and the composition of the main landing forces.
            Thus, during the US and NATO intervention in Libya (2011), the MDO began after the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and three American aircraft carriers arrived on the shores of Libya. By this time, it included 4 AVUs, missile cruisers, frigates, destroyers, and a detachment of landing ships.
            In addition, NATO provides for amphibious evacuation actions.
        2. -1
          24 December 2021 01: 56
          but what about pearl harbor?
    2. +8
      5 November 2021 11: 35
      In terms of the degree of brainwashing, the Americans will give a head start even to the most dense times of the USSR) Because there are whole strata - there is religion, and legal messianism, and the cult of "exclusivity", and cultural triggers and, finally, the frankly clip perception of the states around them by Americans - all this in one the bottle gives a pretty good motivation, supported by a thick dollar and culture pad. In a short-term or medium-term conflict, it will not be possible to break this morale in the mass of means (excluding the array of tactical nuclear weapons), due to the significance of the arsenal of means and forces of the United States, their rotational capabilities, trained reserves, etc.
      So there is no need to hope that the Americans will lose morale. At one time, Adolf Aloizovich underestimated the persistence of Britain to resist, this lesson should be taken into account in relation to the Anglo-Saxons.
  2. -6
    5 November 2021 06: 00
    The assistance provided to Haiti was an example of the clear implementation of the tasks set by the ARG / MEU.

    They will throw a piece of bread into the crowd, and blow up the noise ...
    And then they begin to plunder the country
    1. +8
      5 November 2021 08: 54
      They will throw a piece of bread into the crowd, and blow up the noise ...
      And then they begin to plunder the country


      What is there in Haiti? Sugarcane?
      1. -5
        5 November 2021 10: 53
        Quote: Choi
        What is there in Haiti? Sugarcane?

        Why did they get there? To smash democracy?
        1. -2
          5 November 2021 11: 58
          bases ... bases ... as without them
          1. -3
            5 November 2021 12: 14
            Everything. And why should they give out food. Promoted and that's enough
      2. +1
        7 November 2021 13: 37
        Quote: Choi
        What is there in Haiti? Sugarcane?

        Of course, there is sugarcane in Haiti. But apart from everything else, there is a poor population, and the poor people are very fond of leftist ideas. And next to Cuba. So, by will, not by will, Haiti has to help almost disinterestedly. And then socialism is a dangerous thing for the capitalists ...
    2. +4
      5 November 2021 20: 19
      so Haiti seems to be almost its own, near sphere, isn't it? God himself ordered to help there.
      But there are nuances. Typically, only the United States benefits from US aid. In the long run, anyway.
  3. -3
    5 November 2021 06: 07
    "With minimal support in several cover ships playing the role of air defense and missile defense centers, groups can land in designated areas and deliver strikes, direct strike aviation forces,"

    Well, this is again good against bandustans
    1. +2
      5 November 2021 06: 36
      Mobile anti-amphibious groups can be used against mobile landing groups. smile
      1. 0
        5 November 2021 06: 38
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Mobile anti-amphibious groups can be used against mobile landing groups. smile

        type "bastion".
        1. +1
          5 November 2021 07: 01
          Bastion still pkr. And if the guys got out on the rszo beach :)
          1. +11
            5 November 2021 08: 29
            And if the guys got out on the rszo beach :)

            And they are "well stupid"
            It was somehow in history ... and land mines were buried on the beach, and pillboxes were built, but all the same, the troops landed, the guards surrendered, and then the entire front surrendered ...
            1. 0
              5 November 2021 20: 25
              Yes, they have a lot in their history. and fought with themselves on an empty island. and they threw meat against the Germans at the landing. and to lose one of the two helicopters in an operation against a dozen Taliban with machine guns, while landing on the wrong side of the wall and heroically storming it. and a vigorous loaf have been lost more than once, incl. beside his allies the Spaniards, a rich and exceptional history soldier
          2. +2
            5 November 2021 13: 51
            And if all of the above has already been destroyed by air strikes = ah?
          3. -1
            5 November 2021 22: 07
            These are the forces to conquer the islands! To act in sparsely populated areas, in remote areas, we can see them in Kamchatka or the Kuril Islands and not with a couple of escort ships! Of course, they are unlikely to storm Vladivostok or Murmansk, although ... what
        2. +12
          5 November 2021 07: 14
          bastion type

          Have you tested the "Bastions" in real combat operations, maybe this is also against the bashi-bazouks? And then, like in Syria, it's like local shit, our air defense systems are the best. What if our missilemen turn out to be the same specialists as the Syrian ones?
      2. -3
        5 November 2021 06: 43
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Mobile anti-amphibious groups can be used against mobile amphibious groups

        For every poison, there is always an antidote
    2. -7
      5 November 2021 06: 42
      Quote: kytx
      Well, this is again good against bandustans

      And they send their ASU there
      They stuck their heads in and off to Korea
      1. +6
        5 November 2021 13: 52
        Moron comment.
        1. -7
          5 November 2021 13: 54
          Is that all? Of course, there is nothing to justify one-off
          1. +1
            6 November 2021 09: 33
            Sergei, you just do not know the history very well. The landing from the sea at the right time and in the right place can change the course of the war. For example, the landing of the Americans in Icheon led to the defeat of the DPRK and if it were not for a million Chinese then Korea would be alone.
    3. +1
      5 November 2021 08: 57
      such is the role of any airborne assault forces - against an analogue from the ground army, they will not live long, be it our airborne brigade of the Airborne Forces or the American one from Marinok ... all the same, heavy armored vehicles and artillery decide
      1. +4
        5 November 2021 11: 20
        Quote: Barberry25
        such is the role of any airborne assault forces - against an analogue from the ground army, they will not live long, be it our airborne brigade of the Airborne Forces or the American one from Marinok ... all the same, heavy armored vehicles and artillery decide

        That is why the ILC decided to no longer replace the army and concentrate on purely naval tasks - the seizure of islands and groups of islands and the establishment of zones of control along the coast / on enemy communications. Where the marines will now operate, there will be no tank wedges and army corps - they simply will not fit on these islands. smile
      2. 0
        5 November 2021 16: 29
        But what about the Normandy operation?
        1. 0
          5 November 2021 17: 12
          remind how many troops were landed and how many forces opposed them?
        2. +1
          5 November 2021 17: 26
          on wiki 156 thousand (supported by 10,5 thousand aircraft, 7 ships) versus 000 thousand
        3. +1
          5 November 2021 20: 20
          Exactly, there were almost no American tanks there.
  4. +10
    5 November 2021 07: 08
    Discussion boiled down to shapkozakidatelstvo.
    Naive ... think that the presence of a large conscript army can provide an answer to some kind of battalion.
    Of course, with proper organization of one battalion, a pro in close combat can and will nag a regiment of the Airborne Forces, but if these professionals possess modern technologies for detecting targets and targeting and for every American from the battalion, in the rear behind the remote control there is someone to press buttons, then one battalion can destroy an entire army who practiced breaking bricks.
    1. +9
      5 November 2021 08: 43
      Quote: Konnick
      Discussion boiled down to shapkozakidatelstvo.

      And this is the easiest, and it looks patriotic ...
      The US ILC is outdated, they realized this and seriously took up its radical reformation, both in terms of changing strategic planning and in practical changes in the order of forces and equipment. There are many problems, but they are being solved ...
      I would very much like the Ministry of Defense to have the same interest in our marines, because these troops will never be superfluous.
      1. +2
        5 November 2021 17: 24
        Quote: Doccor18
        The US MP is outdated, they realized this and took seriously its radical reformation
        But it seems to me that the old corps of the "heavy" marines they already do not pay for the money - it is expensive, so they make a good face with a bad game. It’s not like “we cannot buy landing ships for heavy equipment instead of the decommissioned ones,” but “we are making the hull more mobile”. And not only ships, the equipment itself is transferred from tracks to wheels, although it is clear to a hedgehog that the chances of getting to the beach on tracks are much higher, for example, our BTR-70, when they are trying to get out of the water onto the sand.
        1. +1
          7 November 2021 10: 04
          Quote: bk0010
          ... that the old corps of the "heavy" marines they already do not pay for the money - it is expensive, so they make a good face with a bad game ...

          It's hard to say ... But it's worth taking a closer look at these changes. 1. We removed the tanks and reduced the artillery by four times, but tripled the MLRS and added the missile launcher. 2. They will not build huge and expensive UDCs, but will switch to simple 4000-ton DCs (the price of 30! Similar ones will be equal to the cost of one UDC America). 3. Huge and powerful battalions will be split into small tactical battle groups (75-100 people).
          Why? Let's remember WWII. The USA and the USSR massively built inexpensive, but working weapons systems and won the war. The United States is now also preparing for a possible conflict with China. And tomorrow they will not need 450 tanks and 500 guns, but they will need thousands of armored personnel carriers and MLRS, PU KR and UAVs, and HUNDREDS of landing ships, and not a dozen and a half giants the size of an aircraft carrier (although they do not intend to completely abandon the UDC) ) ...
          1. 0
            7 November 2021 11: 21
            Quote: Doccor18
            The USA and the USSR massively built inexpensive, but working weapons systems and won the war.
            The USSR was worth what it could. The States built everything: from Liberty to Arizona with the Enterprise.
            Quote: Doccor18
            And they won't need 450 tanks and 500 guns tomorrow
            Sorry, it's hard to imagine a situation where 450 tanks and 500 guns would be superfluous. War in the mountains, maybe.
            Quote: Doccor18
            HUNDREDS of landing ships
            You see, these HUNDREDS of landing ships can provide the transfer of forces from island to island, but how will you deliver and support these forces from across the ocean? The USSR did not build the UDC because there were no serious tasks for them, all the straits and the coast of Norway, which were going to be captured by the landing force, were nearby, there was enough BDK. But if the target is overseas, then problems arise.
            1. +1
              7 November 2021 12: 52
              Quote: bk0010
              The States built everything: from Liberty to Arizona with the Enterprise.

              Yes, but the emphasis was on mass character and cheapness (as far as possible), more than three thousand transports, a thousand destroyers and a hundred escort aircraft carriers confirm this.

              Quote: bk0010
              War in the mountains, maybe.

              War for dozens of small islands in shallow water ...

              Quote: bk0010
              ... but how will you deliver and support these forces from across the ocean?

              They have 9 UDCs, the construction program of America-type UDCs has not been completed (2 in service, 2 on stocks), moreover, some of them are proposed to be turned into aircraft carriers to support the ILC ... And new ships, for all their modesty, are not like that already small and quite seaworthy.
    2. -2
      5 November 2021 08: 57
      and our Airborne Forces are only training to break bricks? and the paratroopers know?)
      1. -1
        5 November 2021 09: 02
        and our Airborne Forces are only training to break bricks? and the paratroopers know?)

        The rest of the time is parachute training.
        1. 0
          5 November 2021 17: 40
          and that is why any exercise of the Airborne Forces is interaction with artillery and the use of UAVs ..
    3. -1
      5 November 2021 10: 25
      if you read the comments, it turns out that only you are doing the hats (the battalion of marines smashes the airborne regiment with hats)
      Of course, with the proper organization of one airborne company in close combat, a Marine division can and will nag, but if these paratroopers possess modern technologies for detecting targets and targeting and behind each Russian from the company, in the rear behind the remote control there is someone to press buttons, then one company can destroy an entire army who trained to run by dropping kakahi from afghan (answer in your style)
      the airborne forces are mainly contracted
    4. -1
      5 November 2021 13: 41
      then one battalion can destroy an entire army that was trained to break bricks.


      First, let this battalion try to take Kabul again.
      Something "buttons" did not help. Stuck, or "elekstrichestvo" chopped off
      1. -1
        5 November 2021 13: 46
        First, let this battalion try to take Kabul again.
        Something "buttons" did not help. Stuck, or "elekstrichestvo" chopped off

        Oh, a powerful argument. And a real war goes to destruction, not looking at the presence of a civilian population. After the impact of the appropriate weapon, the battalion will conduct reconnaissance for the calculation of the funeral teams.
        1. 0
          5 November 2021 13: 51
          And a real war goes to destruction, not looking at the presence of a civilian population. After the impact of the appropriate weapon, the battalion will conduct reconnaissance for the calculation of the funeral teams.


          And before the Yankees did not fight "for real" and were very scrupulous about civilian casualties?
          The tradition is fresh, but you can believe it with a friend. The evidence suggests otherwise.
          There were dozens of ji-ai battalions in Afghanistan. But it didn’t help, I had to drap in my pissed underpants.
        2. +2
          6 November 2021 12: 31
          Nicholas, you will not convince opponents for them the Airborne Forces is sacred, but the fact that this is essentially light infantry is not in their house. as such, and so dali. If there is no such thing, then those who serve in the Airborne Forces are simply suicide bombers.
          1. +2
            6 November 2021 12: 51
            Thank you for your opinion, it is similar to mine. In the history of the new Russian Federation, they have never completely been able to parachute a division, only a regiment, the weather interfered. It is impossible to find such a field. Landing from 600 meters at a speed of 300 km / h will allow the enemy to shoot down the Il-76 with small arms even without air defense.
            It is a huge problem to gather in units and find your own equipment, although beacons have now begun to be used.
            Large parachute units should be a thing of the past.
  5. 0
    5 November 2021 11: 51
    After the ILC decided to take away the tanks and reduce the number of attack helicopters, it ceased to be a "second army" and now, if the MP command will have to request support from the Ministry of the Army ... and the Ministry of the Air Force ...
    1. +1
      6 November 2021 15: 54
      Lara Croft, you just do not understand why you need MP. For the Marine Corps, the main task is to seize a bridgehead where the main forces of the ground army will be landed. They took away the tanks and you know how much this bear eats fuel. Helicopters, similarly, modern ATGMs can cope well with tanks and pillboxes, and aviation also acquired modern means of destruction and The most important thing is time. The bottom line of all of the above is that the ILC, without weakening its firepower, simplified logistics.
      1. 0
        6 November 2021 19: 58
        Quote: Shiden
        Lara Croft, you just do not understand why you need MP.

        Of course, unlike you, I did not finish the General Staff Academies ... however, I read periodicals on a military topic ... from time immemorial, the USMC has served as a reserve of the Supreme Command, these are the only troops that can be used by the President of the United States without the permission of the Congress ...
        The US MP appeared, oddly enough, long before the appearance of the US Army and in all conflicts and wars waged by the United States, it was used, incl. as an elite infantry (while having its main tasks) with its own Aviation and ICE ...
        Helicopters, similarly to modern ATGMs, can handle tanks well.

        So I kind of wrote that some of the attack helicopters also fall under the reduction ...
        ILC without weakening firepower

        Due to what it did not weaken its firepower, tell us ...
        1. 0
          7 November 2021 09: 07
          I also did not graduate from academies and am not a professional military man. But I'm not lazy to strain my brains, unlike some for whom noodles are hung on their ears and they believe in it. So I already answered you, or do you think that tanks and attack helicopters do not take up space on landing ships. And the commanders are not so tempted to lead tanks or attack helicopters into battle. You probably know the examples of such actions many times in military literature.
          1. -2
            7 November 2021 10: 54
            Quote: Shiden
            But I'm not lazy to strain my brains, unlike some for whom noodles are hung on their ears and they believe in it. So I already answered you or do you think that tanks and attack helicopters do not take up space on landing ships

            Those. if I disagree with your opinion, then I don’t strain my brains, well then I also don’t give a damn about you and your opinion ...
            And you hang the noodles here, tk. the US naval concept "Strike from the Sea" has not been canceled, and there, there is a place for tanks and attack helicopters as part of the ILC ....
            Further, the dialogue is impossible, its nonsense without references to FM, instructions and other guiding documents to other leaks in the ears ...
            1. 0
              7 November 2021 12: 39
              You can agree, you can disagree, this is your right. And of course, the dialogue will not work if you do everything according to instructions and governing documents, then in a real battle you will be either dead or disabled. Or here I hang noodles, so look at the footage of the recent Karabakh war there, too, Armenians fought under instructions and governing documents.
  6. 0
    5 November 2021 12: 00
    but for these abbreviations
    LHD or LHA, LPD and LSD
    , without decoding with a candelabrum, it is necessary on the bald
    1. -2
      7 November 2021 10: 57
      Quote: novel xnumx
      but for these abbreviations
      LHD or LHA, LPD and LSD
      , without decoding with a candelabrum, it is necessary on the bald

      How did you, comrade "marshal" come to such a life that you do not know the terms and definitions of the enemy military equipment, apparently you do not read military periodicals, only here you are sitting on VO ...
      1. 0
        7 November 2021 17: 54
        only here on the VO sit.

        so I do ..
        1. -1
          7 November 2021 18: 09
          Quote: novel xnumx
          so I do ..

          What then are the questions about abbreviations
          LHD or LHA, LPD and LSD
          1. +1
            7 November 2021 18: 20
            I want decryption!
            1. 0
              7 November 2021 19: 04
              Quote: novel xnumx
              I want decryption!

              Read the periodicals or score in the search on the VO website ...
              1. 0
                8 November 2021 07: 38
                some kind of tediousness, but is it impossible in the text?
  7. +1
    5 November 2021 12: 12
    What, what, but the Japanese taught the Americans to conduct amphibious landings. The first law of amphibious assault, on the coast at the landing site, the enemy must be in a state of rigor mortis.
  8. 0
    5 November 2021 13: 37
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    So there is no need to hope that the Americans will lose morale.


    From what. During the Vietnam War, even as they "sagged", they fled in droves to Canada and Mexico from the draft.
    After the "Gulf War", where everything seemed to be "little blood, a mighty blow", the Pentagon had problems with recruits for several years ... even a small chance to lay down his head pretty cooled the desire of young Yankees to go to serve.
    Plus changes in social psychology, all this propaganda of all kinds of "rights" clearly does not help to strengthen the fighting spirit. Quite the opposite.
    "Unconventional Rapid Response Corps" soldier
    And mass culture, Hollywood ... compare blockbusters like Starship Troopers and Avatar ... the comparison will illustrate a shift in Yankee mass psychology.

    Real Yankees, "wasps" have already become a minority in their country. Their swan song is Trump's rise to power. But the fact that Trump was "lowered" to the fullest shows that now they are no longer running the show.
    1. +1
      7 November 2021 11: 08
      Quote: Illanatol
      From what. During the Vietnam War, even as they "sagged", they fled in droves to Canada and Mexico from the draft.

      Yes, there was a case, former US President Clinton was accused of evading military service ...
      You can understand the Americans, tk. before that there was a massacre in Korea ...
      But the Vietnam War for the United States was the last war, where they lost many soldiers and officers, for the Russian Federation, such a last war was the PCHK ...., i.e. we learned to fight with minimal losses much later than the Americans ...
      And we have never fought with a strong enemy like the Iraqi Armed Forces, but we tried to study with such an enemy in 2014-2015, but these are certainly not comparable armies ...
      1. 0
        7 November 2021 13: 43
        But the Vietnam War for the United States was the last war, where they lost many soldiers and officers; for the Russian Federation, this last war was the PCHK.


        And what was the first war for the Russian Federation?
        Transnistria or "First Abkhazian"?

        And we have never fought with a strong enemy like the Iraqi Armed Forces.


        Who are "we? RF? THE USSR?
        I'm not sure about the latter. And the strength of the Iraqi army at one time was greatly exaggerated.
        In addition, the Gulf War was fought by a coalition of Western countries, not just the United States.
        And they won not only in quality, but also in quantity (in aviation - 3 times, at least, in missile weapons - dozens of times).
        A strong adversary that does not have its own satellite constellation, aerial reconnaissance ... of course.
        An exemplary whipping boy.
        1. 0
          7 November 2021 14: 29
          Quote: Illanatol
          Who are "we? RF? THE USSR?

          RF.
          In addition, the Gulf War was fought by a coalition of Western countries, not just the United States.

          The basis of the coalition was formed by the Anglo-Saxons .... that is. British and Americans ...
          A strong adversary that does not have its own satellite constellation, aerial reconnaissance ... of course.
          An exemplary whipping boy.

          Yes Yes. Remember the ratio of losses in combat aviation of the Russian Federation and Georgia .... in the war 08.08.08.
          1. 0
            8 November 2021 09: 39
            The basis of the coalition was formed by the Anglo-Saxons .... that is. British and Americans ...


            So what? There was still a coalition.

            Yes Yes. Remember the ratio of losses in combat aviation of the Russian Federation and Georgia .... in the war 08.08.08.


            Could you remind me how many aircraft lost to the Russian Air Force in air battles? wassat
            Basically, they lost their own development from the air defense system. Yes, what we can do, we can, "Buki" turned out to be really good.
            And the Georgians had nothing to lose. All aviation is a few "rooks".
            If we consider the losses in general, their ratio ... "rusty sledgehammer is still a sledgehammer", yeah.

            The Yankees' own losses in that war were largely underestimated. They even had to invent a "Gulf War syndrome" ... they did not want to write down their wounded soldiers who died in hospitals as "irrecoverable losses", so as not to spoil the statistics, as well as their career prospects.
  9. +2
    5 November 2021 19: 23
    Maybe, being an amateur, I am wrong, but it seems that in the course of this reform, the autonomy of the US MP from the Navy will decrease.
    1. 0
      7 November 2021 11: 09
      Quote: Sergej1972
      Maybe, being an amateur, I am wrong, but it seems that in the course of this reform, the autonomy of the US MP from the Navy will decrease.

      Rather from SV ...
  10. +2
    5 November 2021 21: 17
    There is such a thing as "hybrid war". With a skilful application of a set of measures for hybrid warfare, Russia would have long ago brought the United States to its knees. But what can we talk about if the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation openly credits the US Armed Forces by buying up US foreign loan bonds and US dollar bills, which the US Federal Reserve prints around the clock ?! What else can we talk about if Russia is happy to supply the United States with strategic materials: aluminum and titanium, nickel and chromium, and all NATO countries, together with "independent" Ukraine, are supplied with Russian energy resources: natural gas and petroleum products ?! A trillion dollars of Russian companies and oligarchs have been invested abroad, kept in bank accounts in the USA and NATO countries! At the expense of the Russian "aid" the US, NATO and the Independent are fighting! Like this. Who will call us smart people after that? You can and should cooperate, but you need to know with whom and how to cooperate, and defend your interests.
  11. 0
    5 November 2021 23: 32
    Troopers - America's main reserve
    America's dollar assault will multiply anyone you want by zero. hi
    1. +1
      7 November 2021 13: 47
      Recently, this has been a problem. This is understandable, even the largest "pyramid" cannot be built up indefinitely.
      This is one of the reasons why gold and hydrocarbon prices rise in the long term. Alternative assets.
  12. 0
    6 November 2021 18: 25
    Well, let's put it this way: Grenada, Panama, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia, various taverns, skirts and show-offs everywhere.
  13. 0
    7 November 2021 15: 16
    The ILC returned to the strategy and tactics of the Sturmgruppen at a modern level.
  14. 0
    10 November 2021 20: 20
    The result of the article "The development perspective is clear: the projection of force into certain areas is possible not only with the help of strike forces led by aircraft carriers. Point, dosed use is possible with the help of ARG / MEU and amphibious assault ships." If we add to this the mobile logistics center, which was also mentioned in the article. A fairly flexible solution, an aircraft carrier or another type of warship can destroy a city, but not capture it. And here is an example of chiseled use as an evacuation from Kabul. And fly in the ointment, even the United States cannot afford to maintain the required-estimated ship composition for this concept.
  15. 0
    25 December 2021 14: 35
    Yes, they need a landing. Who will then collect the corpses from everywhere. Only the landing will help.
  16. 0
    4 January 2022 18: 49
    This change in the trend for amphibious operations is good for Russia. There are many reasons. Some pluses)) could be expanded in more detail in relation to our interests
  17. 0
    10 January 2022 08: 15
    BMP - infantry battle grave ... well, this is a very large grave ... for example, up to 6 thousand people serve on an aircraft carrier .... 5-6 mosquitoes or daggers and a kirdyk.
  18. Eug
    0
    29 January 2022 07: 42
    The point, as for me, is the timing of the arrival of ships with all their contents to their destination. As for me, it is very large, which means the concept of "forward basing". Despite it, as for me, in the Pacific Ocean, the Americans are in a losing situation - China has much more opportunities to quickly build up groups near its coast. Or will have them in the near future ..