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Two "Zircons" and a foreign reaction

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Submarine "Severodvinsk" - an experienced carrier of missiles "Zircon"


On October 4, the Severodvinsk multipurpose nuclear submarine performed two successive test launches of the Zircon experimental hypersonic missiles. The missiles hit the intended targets and confirmed the calculated characteristics, as a result of which the test stage using the standard submarine carrier was completed. Naturally, these events did not go unnoticed abroad.

Big news


On the morning of October 4, the press service of the Ministry of Defense announced the next test launch of the Zircon rocket, which had previously been put into testing. For the first time this weapon used the nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk". The shooting was carried out from the White Sea at a target in the water area of ​​the Barents Sea. The carrier submarine was on the surface. The flight was said to be within the specified parameters and the missile successfully hit the target.

Just a few hours later, the Ministry of Defense published news about the second test run of the day. This time "Severodvinsk" launched the "Zircon" from a submerged position - from a depth of 40 m. The rocket successfully emerged from the water and flew to a conditional target, again showing the specified parameters. Together with both news, they published short videos showing the take-off of the missiles.

On October 5, during a conference call at the Ministry of Defense, the commander of the Northern fleet Admiral Alexander Moiseev made a report on the activities carried out. He said that during the test launches, the onboard systems of the submarine and the rocket worked normally and without comment. The underwater launch of the Zircon has been completed and confirmed.


The first launch of Zircon on October 4. The silhouette of a submarine is visible under the flash

It is reported that in previous and current tests, the promising rocket has confirmed all its characteristics, although their exact level is still not disclosed. According to Admiral Moiseyev, the October 4 launches complete the Zircon submarine test program.

Foreign reaction


News from the Russian Ministry of Defense, as expected, spread through foreign media. So far, basically, we are talking only about translations and reprints of official messages about the two launches and the completion of the "underwater" part of the tests, but analytical materials are already appearing. Their number is likely to grow in the near future.

On sites with open comments, foreign audiences share their thoughts on Zircon and related topics. As always, there is no consensus. Some commentators support Russia and its achievements. Others, according to tradition, come down with criticism and vehemently "denounce the Russian threat."

Opinions and assessments


There are already some estimates in the news publications. For example, Reuters in its article "Russia test fires submarine-launched hypersonic Tsirkon missile for first time" dated October 4 refers to unnamed foreign experts. They recognize that a hypersonic missile with high speed, altitude and maneuverability is an extremely difficult target to track and intercept. At the same time, they are not sure how advanced the Zircon project is.


The Indian edition of The Eurasian Times, which published the article "US Finally Admits That Russia Is The 'World Leader' In Hypersonic Missile Technology?", Has no doubts about the characteristics and capabilities of Zircon. They also provide known data on the possibility of using such missiles by ships of different types. In addition, ET recalls the recent implementation and testing of a promising automated fleet management system, reconnaissance satellite launches, etc. All together, the new means and weapons should seriously increase the combat capabilities of the Russian Navy.

ET also cites the opinion of a foreign military leader. So, in August this year, the head of the US Army Strategic Command, Admiral Charles Richard, said that Russia is the leading power in the field of hypersonic technology. At the same time, American ground-based and space-based detection systems may not be able to cope with tracking the threat in the form of new Russian missiles.

The publication The Drive / The War Zone in the article "Russia Says It Has Test Fired Hypersonic Cruise Missiles From A Submarine For The First Time", having reviewed the latest news, offers its own version of analysis and forecast. One of the main conclusions is quite simple: the combination of Zircon missiles and Yasen submarines could become a cause for serious concern for the United States and its NATO allies.

The Russian Navy currently has only two such nuclear submarines. However, over the next five years, according to the Pentagon, their number will reach 8-9 units. Such a flotilla will be able to carry out constant duty in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans, becoming a serious threat to the United States. In the context of hypothetical targets for Zircon, The Drive recalls a famous episode of the TV program "News of the Week", which showed a map of the United States with the corresponding markings.


Rocket launch from a submerged position: the product has just emerged from the water

It is noted that the real potential of Zircon depends both on the characteristics of the rocket and on Russia's ability to complete the project. How soon the Russian navy will be able to get enough new missiles is unclear. At the same time, there are cases when the delivery times of the required products were shifted due to financial or other difficulties. Also, The War Zone recalls the complexity of hypersonic technologies - even the United States, with all its capabilities, cannot yet boast of any particular success in this direction.

Asymmetric response


The American military and political leadership openly names the new Russian submarines with hypersonic missiles on board as a threat to national security. To counteract it, various solutions are proposed, and another measure was taken shortly before the recent tests.

On September 1, the Task Group Greyhound was formed as part of the US Navy. It will reach full combat readiness by June next year. The task of the new unit will be to participate in the organization and implementation of anti-submarine defense in the Atlantic Ocean, incl. off the east coast of the United States. They will have to work together with other PLO participants and complement them.

According to plans, the squad will include four Arleigh Burke-class destroyers with significant anti-submarine potential. The permanent composition of the detachment is not envisaged; different ships will alternately be involved in solving problems. Two of the four destroyers will be on constant alert, ready to complete missions. If necessary, the second pair will provide support.


Test launch of the Zircon rocket from the frigate Admiral Gorshkov, July 2021

The purpose of the Greyhound detachment is openly called countering Russian submarine forces in the Atlantic. Russian progress in this area is causing serious concern in the United States. The multipurpose "Ash" and the strategic "Borei" with modern missile weapons are considered a serious threat requiring an urgent response. However, so far only four destroyers are going to respond to it, in addition to the already deployed forces.

Words and actions


In general, the foreign reaction to new tests of Russian weapons is predictable. The public, professionals and the press react critically or with fear, although approval is occasionally met. At the same time, the military and political leadership of the potential adversary is paying attention to the "growing threat" from Russia, and it even comes to real actions.

How they react abroad to two tests of Zircon in one day and what they write in the comments on the pages of the media is not so important. In addition, it is already clear that the next news about our new rocket will again cause a predictable wave of publications and comments of known content.

The actions of Russia and other countries are of real importance in the current situation. So, the Russian Navy, together with the industry, conducted new tests of a promising missile, which brings it closer to being put into service. In parallel, the United States is strengthening ASW in the Atlantic Ocean. This means that a new round of confrontation is outlined at sea and under water. And this time our submarines will have the most serious argument in the form of hypersonic missiles - and this is more important than any opinions and assessments.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 October 2021 05: 39
    +2
    We have to partially compensate for the absence of an ocean-going fleet, or the small number of its cable personnel by the presence of such weapons as the Zircon missiles. Now, we need to solve a million problems, first of all, these are issues of re-equipping the fleet, building ocean destroyers, as well as creating naval aviation from scratch, including carrier aircraft of such hypersonic missiles.
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 6 October 2021 06: 23
      +23
      Quote: Thrifty
      Now, we need to solve a million problems, first of all, these are issues of re-equipment of the fleet.


      Taking into account the fact that in Russia for a long time all ships have long been equipped with "caliber" missiles and the fact that the same unified launcher 3S14 is used to launch "caliber" and "zircon", then there are practically no rearmament problems for "zircon", only install new software ...
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 6 October 2021 06: 50
        -4
        Quote: lopvlad
        Quote: Thrifty
        Now, we need to solve a million problems, first of all, these are issues of re-equipment of the fleet.


        Taking into account the fact that in Russia for a long time all ships have long been equipped with "caliber" missiles and the fact that the same unified launcher 3S14 is used to launch "caliber" and "zircon", then there are practically no rearmament problems for "zircon", only install new software ...

        this does not negate the problems pointed out by his colleague "Lean".
        1. Civil
          Civil 6 October 2021 11: 23
          0
          The missile is there, the enemy will not attack. We disperse.
      2. bk0010
        bk0010 6 October 2021 12: 01
        +4
        Quote: lopvlad
        and the fact that the same unified launcher 3S14 is used to launch the "caliber" and "zircon", then there are practically no rearmament problems for the "zircon"
        In fact, not everyone who is armed with Calibers can even fire Onyx.
      3. venik
        venik 6 October 2021 12: 33
        +4
        Quote: lopvlad
        Taking into account the fact that in Russia for a long time all ships have long been equipped with "caliber" missiles and the fact that the same unified launcher 3S14 is used to launch "caliber" and "zircon", then there are practically no rearmament problems for "zircon", only install new software ...

        ========
        Is not a fact! Perhaps the use of "Zircons" will also require additional reinforcement of the UVP itself and the ship's hull! We do not know either the starting weight, or the velocity of the accelerator gases, or the torch temperature! And without this, to assert something like that ("..there are practically no problems of rearmament for "zircon", only the new software will installb ... ") - somewhat prematurely! Moreover - do not forget that before the start of the Zircon tests," Gorshkov "went to the shipyard, and for some time some work was carried out there ..... Question: WHAT ? request
        1. lopvlad
          lopvlad 12 October 2021 23: 41
          0
          Quote: venik
          Perhaps the use of "Zircons" will also require additional reinforcement of the UVP itself and the ship's hull!


          and it may not require anything since

          Quote: venik
          We do not know either the starting weight, or the velocity of the accelerator gases, or the torch temperature!



          it is only known for certain that the 3S14 launcher is unified to launch both "caliber" missiles and "zircon" missiles.
          1. venik
            venik 13 October 2021 13: 14
            0
            Quote: lopvlad
            and it may not require anything since
            Quote: venik
            We do not know either the starting weight, or the velocity of the accelerator gases, or the torch temperature!
            it is only known for certain that the 3S14 launcher is unified to launch both "caliber" missiles and "zircon" missiles.

            =======
            Perhaps they will not be required ..... But it is only known for certain that the "Zircons" from 3C14 - it is POSSIBLE to launch! The question is whether it can be done WITHOUT additional "shamming" - it remains OPEN! Moreover, the leadership of the Navy stated that starting with the THIRD serial frigate 22350, the ships will be built, taking into account the adaptation for the "Zircon"! THIRD, Karl! So on the first two, in order to use "Zircon" you will need to make some changes to the design? How else to explain this?
            hi
      4. Grits
        Grits 7 October 2021 09: 01
        +1
        Quote: lopvlad
        there are practically no problems with rearmament for the "zircon", just install new software.

        And think about how to provide target designation.
    2. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 6 October 2021 08: 13
      +11
      Well, firstly, we have an ocean-going fleet, though without aircraft carriers, and secondly: why does Russia need an ocean-going fleet? Russia's interests are actually limited to Russia's inland seas and the Mediterranean. Let the Americans rip up their budget by keeping a bunch of unnecessary scrap metal in the form of aircraft carrier groups. The aircraft carrier is becoming obsolete just like battleships in their time, but the Americans do not yet realize this, or do not want to admit it, and the Pentagon also benefits from maintaining aircraft carriers, for this you can steal budget money quite well.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 6 October 2021 08: 44
        +2
        Viktor Sergeev, I'm not a specialist in these matters, but as my old school friend (Lenkom graduate) says - "the aircraft carrier is an expensive but very convenient mesh for the nuclear submarine. Well, a very good boat")
        1. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 6 October 2021 12: 31
          +1
          The target is convenient, but not alone, but covered by air defense destroyers, plus aviation. The task of Russia, if something happens, is to move the aircraft carriers away from its territory, so that they would be afraid to approach the radius of use of their aviation, and here Daggers and Zircons will play a huge role.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 6 October 2021 20: 44
            +4
            Quote: Victor Sergeev
            The target is convenient, but not alone, but covered by air defense destroyers, plus aviation.

            It so happened that Zircon doesn't care.
            Flies high and fast, dives steeply. hi
            1. Viktor Sergeev
              Viktor Sergeev 7 October 2021 09: 08
              .
              Well, in order to release Zircon, an aircraft carrier group must be found (very difficult), plus guess where it will be at the moment when Zircon arrives in the intended area. For example: the distance of detecting and tracking targets such as an aircraft carrier, I think, is no more than 600 km. (from an AWACS aircraft), aircraft from an aircraft carrier overlap the indicated area. MIG31 or Tu22M3 see the aircraft carrier from a much shorter distance. The speed of the aircraft carrier is in the region of 30 knots. Even if the scout spotted the group and began to direct the attack aircraft, it would take at least half an hour, during this time the aircraft carrier would go very far, and it could change the direction of movement. To destroy the aircraft carrier fleet, it will be necessary to allocate 100-200 aircraft, if not more, do we have many such groups?
              Submarines are even more interesting. The US Navy has submarines specializing in the destruction of enemy submarines (Virginia). The target detection range from a submarine is generally scanty. Try to approach the aircraft carrier, even if you know where it roams.
              In general, this is all nonsense, no one in Russia or in the United States thinks about a real strike on an aircraft carrier group, since in this case everything will be decided by the nuclear component, just everyone is having fun, assimilating money and simultaneously scaring each other, measuring missiles.
              1. Illanatol
                Illanatol 7 October 2021 13: 59
                +5
                Can't you find it from satellites? And the AUG itself is rather big and the wake tracks are also very noticeable.
                Do we have "specialized submarines"? Not necessarily atomic, by the way.
              2. Skipper
                Skipper 7 October 2021 16: 52
                +4
                You have not heard about MKRTs Liana? ... which is the successor of the Legend?
              3. lopvlad
                lopvlad 12 October 2021 23: 48
                0
                Quote: Victor Sergeev
                aircraft carrier group must be found (very difficult)


                It is only in the vastness of the world's oceans that you can lose an aircraft carrier group, but in the seas it is already difficult not to see an aircraft carrier group. Plus, there will not be enough money for the maintenance of all this large pies with an escort.
              4. RomanovP
                RomanovP 16 October 2021 02: 03
                0
                what really 100-200 ... let's just a thousand!
      2. Alexander Maltsev
        Alexander Maltsev 6 October 2021 23: 07
        -3
        I remember how the President said several years ago that we need the fleet only for defense.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 7 October 2021 10: 33
          +5
          And the defense of Russia by submarines begins already from the US maritime exclusive economic zone.
      3. Illanatol
        Illanatol 7 October 2021 13: 52
        +5
        and secondly: why does Russia need an ocean-going fleet?


        For example, to cover areas of combat patrolling of nuclear submarines. Or do we no longer need nuclear submarines?
    3. abstractly
      abstractly 6 October 2021 10: 54
      -8
      Why, aviation and submarines, coastal missiles are now effective, it is a waste of money on ships.
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 6 October 2021 13: 48
        0
        Quote: abstractly
        aviation is now effective

        What kind of aviation is "currently effective"?
        Only specifically in terms of types and weapons, without verbiage.
        1. bistrov.
          bistrov. 6 October 2021 15: 01
          +2
          Quote: Bez 310
          specifically by types and weapons, without verbiage.

          MIG-31K (1 Dagger missile) and TU-22 M3M (4 missiles)
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 6 October 2021 15: 04
            -2
            Well, yes, I know? And what, what is the speed there at the terminal section ..
          2. Bez 310
            Bez 310 6 October 2021 15: 19
            +1
            Quote: bistrov.
            MIG-31K (1 Dagger missile) and TU-22 M3M (4 missiles)

            The work of the "Dagger" on a moving surface target
            raises many questions, but the Tu-22M3M in general
            not in service. By the way, about what 4 missiles
            are you talking about?
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 6 October 2021 15: 58
              +2
              "The work of the" Dagger "on a moving surface target raises many questions" ///
              ---
              No questions asked.
              The target coordinates are entered into the Dagger while still on the ground.
              And the MiG-31 must launch the Dagger from a certain point in order for this BR to accurately hit a stationary target.
              Taking into account the distance covered by the carrier aircraft before launch, the total radius of destruction of important targets of this ballistic missile increases significantly.
              1. Bez 310
                Bez 310 6 October 2021 16: 35
                0
                Quote: voyaka uh
                No questions asked. The target coordinates are entered into the Dagger while still on the ground. ... so that this BR can accurately hit a stationary target.

                I'm glad you have "no questions".
                I was asking about the ships, and you just backhand me.
                Have pity on the old man ...
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 6 October 2021 17: 07
                  +3
                  "and you just swing me." ///
                  ----
                  As from "His Excellency's Adjutant":
                  "your honor, ... not with the boy."
                  "Mitki" loved this phrase. smile
        2. abstractly
          abstractly 7 October 2021 18: 25
          -1
          The one that shoots thousands of kilometers away, which one can also be explained?
      2. Illanatol
        Illanatol 7 October 2021 13: 54
        0
        Aviation is effective when it is in the air. It is too expensive to keep an air grouping sufficient for effective defense all the time.
    4. EMMM
      EMMM 6 October 2021 23: 23
      +1
      What you propose to create is already there.
      The development paths of the surface fleet are completely different: ocean-range unmanned destroyers.
      And you have to be more careful with aviation, why don't you like "Bear" or "White Swan"? Did someone create a new gas generator for an aircraft engine? Or "product 30" is already out?
      Yesterday we discussed a Chinese engine with a temperature in front of the theater of 1350 degrees.
      Available technology Cradle technology in 1350 deg. created in the USSR.
      So talk about the creation of naval aviation "from scratch" from the series "let's start over."
    5. Barberry25
      Barberry25 13 October 2021 20: 07
      0
      Well, in general, besides "building up the fleet", there are two tasks - the development of ultra-light hypersonic missiles for use by front-line and naval aviation and the development of an ultra-long-range version of missiles with a range of 2, and the best is over 500 km
  2. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 6 October 2021 05: 40
    +7
    The American military and political leadership openly names the new Russian submarines with hypersonic missiles on board as a threat to national security.

    Well stupid
    (M.Zadornov)

    They will never realize that the entire Russian army, incl. the Navy and the Aerospace Forces exist in order to create a threat to the United States, and, if necessary, to carry out a retaliatory strike.
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 6 October 2021 05: 52
    -2
    How are Zircons planned to be used?
    As a means of combating the US AUG or as a strike weapon against targets in the US?
    In Zircons everything is classified and it is impossible to really understand anything from the media.
    When they will be adopted, it is also unclear ... the timing is constantly walking.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 6 October 2021 20: 42
      +1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      How are Zircons planned to be used?
      As a means of combating the US AUG or as a strike weapon against targets in the US?

      As your heart desires. bully

      When they will be adopted, it is also unclear ... the timing is constantly walking.

      A good joke. The supply contract for the Army 2021 has already been signed. wink
  4. shinobi
    shinobi 6 October 2021 05: 53
    +1
    The eternal competition of armor and projectile. In modern design. Shipborne air defense systems are armor. Well, anti-ship missiles, respectively, projectiles. The classic armor of modern ships, armor can only be called a desperate optimist.
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 October 2021 06: 51
    +6
    Who cares how they react, our task is to knock them out if necessary and survive on our own. good
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 6 October 2021 07: 10
    +1
    waiting for the bookmark of the strategist "Ivan the Terrible"


    with 72 Zircons
    and...???
    add what hotstsa yourself
    1. Grits
      Grits 7 October 2021 09: 10
      +5
      Quote: antivirus
      add what hotstsa yourself

      The laying of the ship "Joseph Stalin" ...
      1. Roma 1977
        Roma 1977 7 October 2021 10: 35
        0
        It would be nice to remember the entire Politburo when laying new ocean ones.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 7 October 2021 16: 48
        0
        and Marshal Ustinov ..
        and what kind of vessel to call "the fighter for freedom Ulyanov-Lenin" ... (and 8 hours a day .. and ++ =).
  7. Vdi73
    Vdi73 6 October 2021 07: 29
    0
    I don't understand why the missile launch is removed, but the target is not hit? I think the effect on NATO countries, the defeat of targets would have more.
    1. arkadiyssk
      arkadiyssk 6 October 2021 09: 10
      +3
      Because the news is somewhat biased on the site. In fact, the MORF reports about shooting "at a conditional target", but the author wants more pathos and for some reason he starts lying about shooting "at a surface target". The kindergarten is just ridiculous. What a pity that PR people rule over engineers in our country. :( It's just not clear what is shameful in his opinion? Well, tests have taken place to work out a launch from a submarine, all the rules are going according to plan. The guidance system was tested either earlier from Gorshkov, or will be later.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 6 October 2021 22: 27
        +3
        Quote: arkadiyssk
        but the author wants more pathos and for some reason he starts lying about shooting "at a surface target"

        Do you think that full-size mock-ups of aircraft carriers are being built as a target? And the buoy is also a surface target.
        1. EMMM
          EMMM 6 October 2021 23: 36
          +1
          For example, I think that this is a designated point in the Barents Sea, around which there are observer ships. A blank head fell into the water, and the task was completed.
          We are talking about test launches - not about hitting any target.
    2. Guru
      Guru 6 October 2021 09: 33
      +6
      I don't understand why the missile launch is removed, but the target is not hit? I think the effect on NATO countries, the defeat of targets would have more.
      Because !!! Training as well as test launches are carried out with "Mass-Dimensional" blanks. Therefore, there are simply no spectacular pictures with the destruction of the target. fellow
      1. ja-ja-vw
        ja-ja-vw 6 October 2021 10: 42
        -1
        Quote: Guru
        Training as well as test launches are carried out with "Mass-Dimensional" blanks.

        with inert warheads
        from what?
        "spectacular pictures" are obtained



        Read not Ryabov, but the Ministry of Defense
        The Russian Navy tested the Zircon hypersonic missile from the Severodvinsk nuclear submarine for the first time ... shooting was carried out for a conditional sea target in the Barents Sea. According to the data of objective control, the rocket hit a conventional target, and its flight corresponded to the specified parameters.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 6 October 2021 22: 29
          0
          Quote: ja-ja-vw
          Quote: Guru
          Training as well as test launches are carried out with "Mass-Dimensional" blanks.

          with inert warheads
          from what?
          "spectacular pictures" are obtained



          Read not Ryabov, but the Ministry of Defense
          The Russian Navy tested the Zircon hypersonic missile from the Severodvinsk nuclear submarine for the first time ... shooting was carried out for a conditional sea target in the Barents Sea. According to the data of objective control, the rocket hit a conventional target, and its flight corresponded to the specified parameters.

          A conditional target can be at least a circle of floats.
          1. ja-ja-vw
            ja-ja-vw 7 October 2021 11: 40
            +1
            Quote: Piramidon
            A conditional target can be at least a circle of floats

            maybe "maybe"
            Only "circles and floats":
            is shooting at a naval target (shield towed or not)
            - "floats and circles" is an exercise "Shooting a floating mine"
            - the MO reference says (in Russian)
            Quote: ja-ja-vw
            produced by conditional sea target in the Barents Sea. According to objective control data, the missile hit a conditional target, and its flight matched given parameters

            neither range nor echelon is indicated. It was just a start-up, followed by self-destruction.
            example
            BF missile ship destroyed conditional targets with Caliber cruise missiles
            https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/[email protected]
    3. Volder
      Volder 6 October 2021 11: 16
      +5
      Quote: Vdi73
      I don't understand why the missile launch is removed, but the target is not hit?
      Because if the enemy understands how the missile flies in the final flight phase and how it hits the target, then it will be much easier to develop an interception system (air defense). Why show all the cards? Let them rack their brains, let it be a surprise :)
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 6 October 2021 23: 26
        +3
        For the same reason, there is not a single photograph of this rocket.
        Only the standard launch canister is shown.
        Let the enemy wonder if there is really a hypersonic Zircon inside,
        or a slightly altered Onyx, launched 20-30 km upward with the help
        enhanced booster?
        Sometimes it is helpful to confuse the enemy and intimidate with the threat of the latest weaponry.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 6 October 2021 07: 57
    -2
    Why is it taking so long for a group of destroyers Gray Dog (Greyhound) of 4 destroyers to be put on alert? The GASs are rusty? According to me, as the order to monitor the nuclear submarine came, they gave the mooring lines and forward. There is food for thought, why only by June of the next year? what is the problem with the US Navy.
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 6 October 2021 08: 09
    +1
    The asymmetric answer in the American way: more ships, more money. It seems to me that the development of Russian weapons is funded by the Pentagon, so that it will be given even more money to fight the Russian threat.
  10. Bez 310
    Bez 310 6 October 2021 08: 42
    -8
    Again "Zircon" ...
    And we again begin a debate about something that we do not even know about.
    I will highlight only two positions:
    1. "Not sure how advanced the Zircon project is."
    The site has long discussed the theory that "Zircon" is an improved "Onyx", and there is no real scramjet engine there.
    2. "It is noted that the real potential of Zircon depends both on the characteristics of the missile and on Russia's ability to complete the project. How soon the Russian fleet will be able to receive a sufficient number of new missiles is unclear."
    This is definitely about us. And an example of this is the stillborn Su-57 and T-14 Armata.
    1. Volder
      Volder 6 October 2021 11: 20
      +3
      Quote: Bez 310
      The site has long discussed the theory that "Zircon" is an improved "Onyx", and there is no real scramjet engine there.
      What's the difference? Is it all the same? The main thing is that the rocket flies at hypersonic speed and maneuvers at the same time. Even if the improved "Onyx", then NATO has nothing of the kind.
      1. Bez 310
        Bez 310 6 October 2021 13: 46
        -3
        Quote: Volder
        the rocket flies at hypersonic speed and maneuvers at the same time.

        Well...
        This question is also not entirely clear.
        Like the question of direct target detection, like the question
        speed at the final stage of the trajectory, like many others
        questions.
      2. EMMM
        EMMM 6 October 2021 23: 42
        -2
        If there is no scramjet, then there is no hypersound in principle.
  11. ja-ja-vw
    ja-ja-vw 6 October 2021 10: 28
    +1
    someone in our press did not promote on the launches of 3M22 ...
  12. xomaNN
    xomaNN 6 October 2021 12: 32
    +5
    "Zircon" is like a sign on the fence "Caution. Angry dog ​​in the yard" wassat
    Let them walk in the distance, they are afraid.
    1. zenion
      zenion 11 October 2021 20: 23
      0
      So one reptile wrote - a toothless dog. The owner had to write - it sucks to death.
  13. zenion
    zenion 11 October 2021 20: 22
    0
    We would not try to say this abroad! Everyone would have lost their thirteenth and third salaries. Once I said at one meeting - this cannot be. I immediately, after the meeting, told you that life is tired, shut up in a rag.
  14. Noun2006
    Noun2006 14 October 2021 02: 14
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    For us Reutov guys, your amateur graters - laughter and only - "I hear a ringing, but I don't know where he is"?
  15. Ravshan Jumshut
    Ravshan Jumshut 14 October 2021 10: 03
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    Of course it will be, let the author not worry, it will be necessary, all the time, as soon as possible