Portable SKIF ATGM (Belarus-Ukraine)

The main purpose of the SKIF complex is the destruction of enemy mobile and stationary armored vehicles, provided with a combined, spaced, monolithic armor protection. These include armored vehicles with protection of the dynamic type, helicopters and bunkers.

Portable ATGM is a modular design that includes anti-tank missile, control system and guidance. The main developer is Kiev Luch.

Ukrainian portable missile system is a high-precision means of destruction of armored vehicles and enemy targets. An ATGM of the development of the Kiev Luch Design Bureau formed around itself an association of defense, electronic and precision mechanics of enterprises. The ATGM itself was created according to a modular scheme, which corresponds to modern trends in the production of weapons. This has expanded the possibilities of using anti-tank guided missile systems, since missile components or components of the carrier may change in accordance with customer requirements.

Ukrainian designers also created the following unique ATGM:
- anti-tank guided missiles for weapons tank Techniques "Combat";
- anti-tank guided missiles for the armament of light types of Stung armored vehicles.
The ATGM data has already been “optimized” for the caliber of NATO, for the supply of missiles and complexes for export.

On the basis of these missiles, a portable Skif ATGM and a lightweight portable Corsair complex were created. These portable ATGMs are in service with the ground forces of Ukraine. There are opportunities to install the systems on any combat helicopters.

Portable Skiff ATGM was created jointly with the Belarusian defense-industrial complex. It was demonstrated at the Minsk arms salon "MILEX-2011". Portable ATGMs are already successfully supplied by some foreign customers. Many copies of ATGM and ATGM are installed on the exported equipment, which increases the competitiveness of armored vehicles.

Portable multi-purpose ATGM "Skif" shock destination, has the ability to connect to automated combat control systems. It has the properties of anti-tank and artillery weapons near tactical zone. It affects all modern types of light armored vehicles, provided with modern types of armor.

One of the main features is the guidance of a guided missile at a selected target from a closed position or shelter, which increases the survivability of the calculation of the complex.
The composition of the complex:
- launcher, weight 28 kilogram;
- TPK with a rocket, weight 29.5 kilogram;
- a device for the guidance of the rocket PN-S, weight 16 kilogram;
- reconciliation module.

Guided anti-tank missile caliber 130mm, length TPK 1.36 meter, diameter TPK - 14 centimeters. The rocket is installed warhead tandem, cumulative (OF, thermobaric) performance. The temperature range of the complex from + 50 to -40 degrees.

The rocket is controlled by a laser beam, with a programmatically changeable direction, determined by the flight path “above” the line of sight. This avoids the illumination of the rocket flight display and eliminates the main interference (smoke and dust from the launch of the rocket) from view. The gunner of the complex constantly keeps the target on the remote control display, marking the target with an aiming mark. Also, the mode increases protection against various systems that interfere with the laser beam. The ATGM can only be detected at the final approach point.

The range of use of the Skif portable complex is from 0.1 to 5.5 km. The armor penetration for the protection of a dynamic type is more than 800mm, when used in the ATGM of an ATGM of the caliber 152mm, the armor penetration is more than 1000mm. The ATGM uses a semi-automatic laser guidance system. The built-in laser range finder provides a range measurement of up to seven kilometers (± 5 meters).

The main advantages:
- increased accuracy of the destruction of the target;
- defeat targets during the day and night;
- defeat of targets from the zone of inaccessibility of the target’s weapons (extended range);
- increased survivability of the ATGM calculation through the use of a remote control unit (up to 100 meters);
- the ability to auto track mode refers ATGM to the modern class of weapons "shot and forgot";
- a wide range of possible carriers - land-based wheeled and tracked vehicles, helicopters and surface boats.

Key Features:
- caliber -130mm;
- TPK length - 1.36 meter;
- diameter TPK - 14 centimeters;
- day / night firing range - up to 5.5 / 3 kilometers;
- “dead zone” - 100 meters;
- maximum flight time - 23 seconds;
- cumulative tandem warhead;
- the weight of the remote control - 10 kilogram;
- The weight of the thermal module - 6 kilogram.


Information sources:
http://www.luch.kiev.ua/russian/main.htm
http://www.military-informer.narod.ru/antitank-skif.html

Comments

[Tirpitz]

Well done. Not all squandered yet.

[Civil]

The Skif man-portable ATGM was created jointly with the Belarusian defense industry.

[Nicholas C.]

So how about:
"The gunner of the complex constantly keeps the target on the display of the remote control, marking the target with an aiming mark" or
"the possibility of the auto-tracking mode classifies the ATGM as a modern" fire and forget "weapon class"?

And what exactly is it better than the good old Kornet anti-tank guided missiles in tens of thousands
www.kbptula.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=114&Itemid=500&lang=
ru

[Splin]

Quote: Nikolai S.

And what exactly is it better than the good old Kornet anti-tank guided missiles in tens of thousands

There are no significant advantages. But let's start with the fact that there are no "Cornets" in Ukraine, and the bulk of the ATGM of Soviet times. From the Belarusian symbiosis there are only optics and part of the guidance system - making it all-weather. Maybe Russia is supplying Minsk with new complexes at a discount, but Ukraine cannot buy Cornets at market prices. It is cheaper to develop your own analogue.

[APASUS]

Quote: Tirpitz

Well done. Not all squandered yet.

Not that I want to stab you, but are you serious ???
I can name on fingers what they did not squander ................

[Sasha 19871987]

oh what a charm ... let's see what happens to the vaunted abrams))

[Horde]

oh what a charm ... let's see what happens with the praised abrams)

... kirdyk abram !!!

[black_eagle]

I would still be on the Merkava)))))

[vikot]

oh, even the old Soviet RPG 7 thrashes at once, even with the urgent charge of the PG-7V, not to mention the more modern types of ammunition. Not so long ago, a TV show was shown. So abrashu just praised. Agitprom American in action.

[black_eagle]

Maybe they never sent tankers alone to an area full of anti-tank weapons, although this is correct, guys and cars are safe

[gregor6549]

The point is not in the "super duper" qualities of the SKIF ATGM system, but in the fact that the repeatedly damned "dad", after his election, managed not only to stop the plundering and disintegration of the Belarusian military-industrial complex (and the military-industrial complex was very powerful there during the Soviet Union), but also to support a number of new developments, which, in general, in Belarus, which is not rich in natural resources, was not at all easy to do. Indeed, after the collapse of the Union, Russia at first proudly abandoned many of the things that were previously supplied by this same military-industrial complex, including a whole series of automated control systems developed by the Belarusian NPO Agat in the mid-70s, launched into mass production and put into service. Who knows what it costs.
And then it turned out that in general there is nothing to replace the same MZKT wheeled tractors on which Poplars and other "industrial wood" are "rolled". Yes, and those "forgotten" ACCUs in Russia now have to be done from scratch. And such things cannot be done from a kanachka. Here you need personnel, money, time and testing facilities and much more.

[viruskvartirus]

Yes, dad in this regard, handsome ... there was a lot of nonsense, for example, if you recall Yuzhmash with a PC-36 and a scalpel,
Kharkov TK with its unique design bureau,
and you can remember about Motor Sich ... (Russia is gradually launching its production of engines) ...
And Belarus makes the buses beautiful and inexpensive, our bought them for Euro 2012 for bourgeois money ...
and do not stand still here is the novelty

[black_eagle]

Quote: viruskvartirus

and you can remember about Motor Sich ... (Russia is gradually launching its production of engines) ...

The production of engines is not a hoolah, the technologies are very serious there, to recall at least J-11, the Chinese seem to assemble themselves, but they don’t see the engines as their own ears, so even Russia is cheaper to buy them than to waste billions of money for nothing, for this money you can to buy half a lemon of engines, so there would be a couple more grandchildren. left))))
And about the buses I want to say separately. It is very good that the plastic industry does not stand still, and there are enough bright colors of any kind, but as it was a sediment, it has been turning into rubbish for 5 years, that we have what Belarusians have, what Russians have. Recall the Soviet LAZs, LiAZs and PAZs, not the ones that are now being produced, they have been skating for 30-40 years, the fact that the picture does not even dream of it, although they have become a little better in comfort, but the cost has jumped

[sergey69]

.All copyrights for TV3-117 / VK-2500 engines, with the exception of TV3-117 VMA-SBM1, belong to Klimov. Most of the engines produced in Russia have a Ukrainian gas generator, but up to 30% of the materials and assemblies of Ukrainian engines are of Russian origin .... As for the SKIF ATGM, I would like to know how our complex looks in comparison with other ATGMs. with the same Cornet. We write on the forums - Cornet is resting, I would like to know the professional assessment of des URA Patriots.
..

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: sergey69

.All copyrights for TV3-117 / VK-2500 engines, with the exception of TV3-117 VMA-SBM1, belong to Klimov.

The Russian government is pressing its enterprises for the earliest possible replacement of the Motor Sich product range. The couple even publicly received such an assignment several years ago. Some nomenclature has already been closed. But in terms of helicopter engines, Klimov is still unable to cope with the volume. Here, such an order for helicopter engines was lowered, that the share of Motor Sich left 1.2 billion dollars for 5 years.

Boguslaev offers all kinds of integration options, for example, with the same Klimov in the UEC-2 or in the UAC. But whatever the outcome, it remains a Ukrainian enterprise, which is dangerous in a different situation. Suffice it to recall Tymoshenko, who took away Kryvorizhstal from Pinchuk. I hope you know what's there now. But then she raised a cry about the "thieves privatized" Motor Sich. Boguslaev had to turn around a lot to avoid the fate of Pinchuk with Kryvorizhstal.

Why compare "Skif" with "Cornet"? Already have a reason? It looks like the "Skif" is made to fit the characteristics of the original "Kornet", taking into account some of the requirements of today in the algorithm and control system. Only, and the KBP does not stand still. I have the link above. There is also a new "Cornet" and "Hermes". This system is at war. Thank God, more than 35 thousand ATGMs have already been made. So, it is no longer being improved under the ministerial TK, but under real combat requirements and under the market. Yes, and in the Russian market, she has some competition in the form of ATGM from the "Charizanthem".

It is unlikely that today "Skif" will be able to compete with "Kornet" anywhere. So far, as I understand it, we are talking about low-cost armament of our army. Having got into service at home, having passed approbation in real conflicts, "Skif" will declare itself. Then it will be clear. Only colleagues will come forward.

[sergey69]

Scythians delivered to Azeibardzhan, Turkmenistan

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: sergey69

Scythians delivered to Azeibardzhan, Turkmenistan

Thank. I was not in the know. But these are not warring countries.
And in what year did "Skif" start selling?

[Pimply]

Azerbaijan?

[Splin]

Pimply,
In the photo the Ayzerbajan "Cobras". And Russia supplies Cornets to Armenia.

[Pimply]

I mean - not howling? Well, relatively - border clashes.

[Splin]

Quote: Nikolai S.

And in what year did "Skif" start selling?

I can’t understand you, what kind of unhealthy urge to compete? Well, yes, they are bought by those countries for which Russia refuses to sell and which cannot afford foreign trinkets. It is more important to me that they finally began to enter the Ukrainian army.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Splin

I can’t understand you, what kind of unhealthy urge to compete?

A call for competition? God forbid. To me, this: one people - one country.
Just trying to understand the logic of what is happening.
(By the way, healthy competition between developers in the domestic market contributes to improvement.)

In addition to Russia's refusal, there may be a motive of a more attractive price.

[viruskvartirus]

You know, dear ... but you didn’t buy Lviv buseshttp: //yablor.ru/blogs/kievskie-vlasti-massovo-zakupayut-belorusskie-avt
o / 2374463 ... "the plastics industry does not stand still"))) well, well ...

[black_eagle]

Because LAZ is generally in the ass!

[Professor]

repeatedly damned "dad", managed after his election

1. The election? Do not make me laugh...
2. All his "merits" are borrowed from Russian money. He's been bankrupt for a long time.

[Insurgent]

Yes, and Ukraine has saved something from any orange oranges, that’s it’s developing, motor sich, kb antonov

[Vitmir]

The novel for the article is Merci sideways, and in particular for the correct spelling of the name of the country Belarus.
"SKIFs" are basically an export product for us.

And MZKT Russia now wants to try to replace the BAZ chassis.

[gregor6549]

Well, in purely technical terms, SKIF did not really impress me.
The same Israeli SPIKE and range has more, and its intelligence is abrupt and is available in several versions, In particular
Spike NLOS ("Tamuz") is a universal Israeli rocket of the Spike family. It was originally a secret weapon. It was developed in Israel at the 80% concern Rafael together with other companies in the early 90-XX of the last century. The decision to remove the secrecy stamp from Tamuz was made at the beginning of November 2010. The Israel Defense Forces press service announced that Rafael will introduce Spike NLOS to the ASH 2010 forum. In a real combat stop, the rocket was used in 2006 during the Second Lebanon War and during the Cast Lead anti-terrorist operation in the Gaza Strip. During the Second Lebanon War, about 500 missiles were used.
It is a multi-purpose multi-platform electro-optical missile system. Designed to destroy armored vehicles, protected objects (such as a bunker, bunker, bunker) and engineering structures, as well as surface targets and enemy personnel. It can be installed on air, sea, or land carriers. The rocket is made with spread wings according to the classic aerodynamic design. Spike NLOS can be guided by a UAV or satellite, has its own target fixation system and remote control is carried out using a two-way electron-optical image transmission system, which greatly expands the possibilities of its combat use. Missiles of this complex can be used both day and night. The compactness, speed of deployment and firepower of the complex make it possible to reduce the dependence of small units on artillery and air support and enable them to effectively deal with fortifications, tanks and other targets that are hardly vulnerable to conventional weapons.
The fiber-optic communication of the operator with the launched rocket allows:
Choose a target after launch or change the target, for example to a more important one;
Receive real-time intelligence and target recognition;
Carry out the capture of the target of the GOS after the start, fire from closed positions;
Achieve the highest accuracy at maximum range;
Minimize collateral damage and eliminate fire on your own.
Makes the missile insensitive to radio-electronic and infrared jamming.
A missile can be launched in three main modes - “Fire and Forget”, “Fire, Observe and Update” (Fire, Observe and Update), and “Fire and Steer”.
The abbreviation used in the name of this rocket - NLOS stands for Non Line Of Sight which means ("Out of sight").
The cost of one rocket for 2011 year is about 145 000 US dollars.
The effective range of this missile is up to 25 kilometers. The weight of the rocket in the packaging container is 71 kilograms. The missile has an average speed on the trajectory: 130 — 180 m / s., Armor penetration up to 1000 mm of homogeneous steel armor. The complex can be used at temperatures from −32 to + 49 and is stored at temperatures from −45 to + 71.
Depending on the task, the missile can be equipped with various types of warheads - cumulative, fragmentation, multifunctional (PBF and PBF / F).

In English, more information on the Spike family of missiles can be found on the Raphael Concern website
http://www.rafael.co.il/Marketing/343-1000-en/Marketing.aspx

[Splin]

Quote: gregor6549

The same Israeli SPIKE and range has more, and her intellect is abruptly

At Spike, of course, the TTX is abrupt, only it costs 4 times more. Can you imagine that Ukraine bought a rocket for the money! Yes, we choke on greed. And such ATGMs are massively purchased in the form of Scythians and Barriers and Stgun on MT-12.

[wasjasibirjac]

and weighs 2,5 times more

[Pimply]

There are several types of rockets in the family. At a different price. And at different weights.

[black_eagle]

You shouldn't forget about the "battalions" either, plus until they release one we 4 in response)))))

[gregor6549]

What to say? Miser pays twice. And not always with money. In this case, the pay is the lives of their fighters. After all, while the SKIFA gunner will keep the target in sight, he will be mixed with the ground five times. To detect the launch of anti-tank missiles for today, just spit. How to react. But when you started and immediately washed away or buried in the mud, the matter of mixing with this land is much more difficult. And it is quite possible that for Israel the price of Spike is not so big in terms of the size of its military budget, the level of payment for those who work and develop , cost of components, etc. Well, one should not forget that a soldier in Israel has piece goods and cherishes them at all levels from platoon to prime minister.
It is also possible that the cost of such systems made in Russia, Belarus or Ukraine would also be quite acceptable for these countries if the money allocated for its creation was spent as intended and the life of a soldier would be valued no less than the life of a soldier in Israel is valued.

[Splin]

In Lebanon, "cheap" Cornets cut Merkavas into trash and DZ did not help. And passive guidance systems are not a panacea either. There are experimental systems "Varta-2", which intercept by ultraviolet radiation. In Russia, too, for certain there is such a similarity. If Ukraine had a defense budget like Poland, then they could think about such expensive purchases. But we have what we have.
By the way, Peru bought Spikes and now the military are swearing at their government. They are redundant for their region. It would be better if Kornetov bought three times more.

[gregor6549]

Dear Spleen, What does cheap Cornets mean? Perhaps for Russia they are not so cheap. Everything needs to be compared relative to some kind of reference point.
Then, why are there emotions about how and whom the Cornets cut and where does the active defense of the Merkava have to do with it? Yes, for the Merkavs the Cornets turned out to be an unpleasant surprise, and some of them were hit. The loss figures are unknown to me. In addition, a government has already been developed against the Kornets and installed on these frail Merkavas. Those. normal dialectic of armed struggle. A new means of attack appears, the defense against it is improved, and vice versa. Nothing new and terribly surprising. After all, no one argues that in a certain range of combat conditions both the Cornet and the Skif will work quite successfully, but this is not about that, but that the range of such conditions for Spike will seem to be wider and his user will seem to be more intact. Those. I would like to hear a sober opinion on a specific technique, and not another "hurray" about the fact that someone, somewhere, someone threw something, something there. Either Cornets, or fur hats, or Belarusian bulb, or bacon in chocolate)))).

[Insurgent]

I do not agree with you Spike what is the hay its cost effectiveness?
Yes, why did it happen that the spike is much better let's compare with the analogue spike ptrk seal 25 km there, I forgot to use the rocket tingling 3 and again, if the arena is on the same t-90 or the thrush will give him confidence, even if not 100%

[Pimply]

Which spike? There are several models.

[Insurgent]

the most dolby

[Pimply]

It all depends on the quantity and configuration. The complex is reusable.

[Splin]

I confirmed your words that Spike is more perfect. I did not shout any battle cries. And cheapness all revolves relative to the same American dollar. Both Australian Wosshol and German Opel have their price in American bucks. that is, the zero point is $ 1. And already further outgoing from this. I did not mention Poland for nothing. They can buy Spike and they bought it. In Ukraine, money for the defense industry is 3,5 times less. And I also want to eat ...
The Poles have not decided on the reason for Trophy and the cheaper Zaslon. And he and he intercepts ATGMs. but Zaslon still intercepts sub-caliber projectiles such as BM-22 and DM-43. But the Poles' neighbors have no old BM-22 for a long time. And these complexes are equal in intercepting ATGMs. Therefore, at the MSPO 2012 exhibition, the Poles showed "Wolverine" with both the same system
And about the Urya. It is necessary to choose such a system from which the neighbor has no opposition. Why pay more. And neither "Obra" nor "Shtora" intercepts such a system. Because the Skif illumination laser is built on zinc selenide and has a larger upper spectrum that similar systems cannot see.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Splin

Skif's backlight laser is built on zinc selenide and has a larger upper spectrum that such systems cannot see.

ZnSe is a material for pass-through optical elements over a range in the region of 10.6 μm. These are CO2 lasers. GaAs is also used there.

What other lasers are in mind? Solid on glass with neodymium (Nd: YAG) or on aluminum - yttrium garnet (YAG)? These at a wavelength of 1.06 μm. They use glass optics on quartz glass KI. Only these developments of the 70s, then put. Mb in the early 80s.

Already in the 80s, backlights, scopes, rangefinders on CO2 lasers were used, for example, the ILGN series manufactured by Istok Fryazino. We have it. Even more so for enemies. So modern aerosols in tanks, I think, are to absorb / scatter this radiation, and not 1.06.

On the contrary. In the last decade, diode-pumped ytterbium Yb fiber lasers have been booming. There the range is 1.03-1.08 microns. Compactness, efficiency is simply gigantic better. With divergence there is better than that of solid-state ones. Optics, respectively, glass. It is much cheaper than ZnSe. But I have not heard that they began to put on weapons. Still, 1.06 is better absorbed by the environment, especially smoke and aerosols.

This is to say that the neighbor has no or no opposition - too optimistic. Weapon CO2 laser - not even yesterday’s development.

[Splin]

Warta - This slightly modified Curtain. Obra is the first modification of Warta. It uses a carbon dioxide laser. The spectral range is respectively 0,63-10,3 and 0,6-11. They are still able to protect against Milan and Tou-2, but this is the limit.
And about the new developments for everyone. Naturally they are, but not yet in the series. We are talking about well-established products.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Splin

a carbon dioxide laser is used. The spectral range is respectively 0,63-10,3 and 0,6-11.

The CO2 molecule (carbon dioxide) emits strictly at 10.6 microns. This is physics.
Fiber lasers have a different design, there may be different pump diodes, and therefore different wavelengths. For example, IPG produces lasers at 1.07, and ROFIN at 1.08. Someone thinks it is necessary to have a shorter wavelength. Lasers of this type are also made for 2 microns, but they are not ytterbium, but thulium. There is no talk of such a resource as the ytterbievs there.

Different wavelengths interact with matter differently, which is why lasers are developed for their respective applications.

In general, a laser differs from a flashlight in that it emits not in the spectrum, but strictly at one wavelength. And lasers don't have "adjustments" that you can twist to get a different output wavelength.

[Professor]

And lasers don't have "adjustments" that you can twist to get a different output wavelength.

Well yes?
Especially for you: Tunable laser By the way, there are also about CO2.
In his "youth" he worked with Aglent himself (then they were still Hewlett-Packard) http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5988-9471EN.pdf Wavelength range 1495 nm to 1640 nm

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: professor

Especially for you: Tunable laser, by the way, is there about CO2.

I don’t like links to pedia. Because I often meet lies there.
But here it really turned out to be uncomfortable. Now lasers with tunable radiation wavelengths (solid-state, liquid, etc.) are made by everyone, even Astrophysics astrophys.ru/111, and "Solid-state lasers with optical pumping on new active media ZnSe: Cr, ZnSe: Fe with lasing wavelengths 2.2 - 2.7 μm (ZnSe: Cr) and 3.8 - 5.0 μm (ZnSe: Fe). Splin - "on zinc selenide." True, there power up to 1 W, so I missed it, although it is enough for a rangefinder.

With a CO2 laser, not everything is so simple: ntpo.com/patents_lazer/patents_lazer/lazer_524.shtml Therefore, I do not expect to find such a "design" on a weapon. Although I met a person who was able to explain for what task he needs not relatives 10.6 but 9 with something. A rare task. But because of her, this expensive and less reliable vegetable garden had to be fenced.

[Professor]

In fact, gas lasers try not to use it, an exception where huge power is needed (for example, on Nautilus shooting down artillery shells). In all other applications, semiconductor lasers are installed.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: professor

In all other applications, semiconductor lasers are installed.

That you have enough. Even the lasers mentioned above are solid state, not semiconductor.
And what about "shoot down". Oxygen-iodine or fluorine-hydrogen lasers are still chemical lasers, not gas lasers. How about free electron lasers? At the same time, in order to more fully utilize the American budget, there are projects with carrying a CO2 laser on a Boeing in order to allegedly shoot down something there. Israel is going to "shoot down" with solid-state lasers www.newsru.co.il/israel/24mar2008/lazer302.html
Is Nautilus what Skyguard is now? So it mentions a chemical fluoride-deuterium laser www.membrana.ru/particle/3093 and now actively developing by Russian scientists fiber lasers www.membrana.ru/particle/16762

[Professor]

I got in a hurry gas and chemical, but not much. Agilet device is already 15 years old - antiques ...
And here is the Nahitilus (Incidentally, it was not adopted for service solely because of the toxicity of its gas).
Nautilus Tactical High Energy Laser

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: professor

I got in a hurry gas and chemical, but not much ...

And what about other types of lasers (solid state, free electron, fiber)?

Quote: professor

And here is Nahitilus (by the way, it wasn’t put into service exclusively because of the toxicity of its gas).

Therefore, in Skyguard, several years after the chemical, they try to adapt the fiber.

And chemical lasers - where they really work with them - are an absolutely closed topic. The cars are mostly disposable: 10 kg of substance, a resonator - as I understand it, from satellite platforms and, basically, against satellites. As there with missile guidance, I can’t even guess.

[Pimply]

Nautilus is not accepted for several other reasons.

[Professor]

Share your thoughts on why you didn’t adopt the missile defense system with a shot price of $ 3000, but did you take it to the place with a price of $ 100000?

[Insurgent]

It seems that on the trophy’s merkas there is an analogue of the thrush and arena. It’s so easy not to kill Merkava

[Pimply]

Not in the trash. 5 tanks completely destroyed, without restoration, from ATGMs - 3 of them, of which only one Merkava 4, without KAZ. There were a total of 24 penetration, an average of one killed per penetration. I repeat - all this is up to KAZ. Trophy currently has three interceptions.

[Insurgent]

Well, your kaz is also not a panacea, it’s one of the means as well as a dynamic defense so that you need to overcome it 2 missiles from the launcher will launch one will be a patch, or increase the speed of the rocket or dazzle the optics with a bright flash, probably the designers who developed the kaz invented how to crack this protection

[Professor]

In Lebanon, "cheap" Cornets cut Merkavas into trash and DZ did not help.

On Merkava is DZ? This is news!

[Splin]

Quote: professor

On Merkava is DZ? This is news!

[Professor]

And where on this Merkava 1 did you see the DZ? If in the lower right corner of the photo then these are the ribs of the exhaust pipe ...

[Pimply]

DZ is not worth it. Dz "Blazer" was on the Magah in the 80s, the first serial DZ in the world. Today's Merkavs have multi-layer modular armor and KAZ

[gregor6549]

The Israelis began to put dynamic defense on the M60, which caused the homeric laughter of the Soviet tank generals. And then it turned out that the one who laughs the last laughs well, the laughter stopped and DZ began to put tanks on the Soviets. After meeting with the Cornets, Israel developed a DZ system that can detect ATGMs and destroy them until the ATGMs come in contact with the armor of the object being protected. How much this system is efficient, effective and which zones it does not know for me, but since they began to put it on production tanks, it passed the tests successfully. Dialectics p. For any s ... there is something with a screw

[Professor]

After meeting with the Cornets, Israel developed a DZ system that can detect ATGMs and destroy them until the ATGMs come in contact with the armor of the object being protected.

Dear forum users. Pliz do not confuse dynamic protection with complexes active protection.

[Pimply]

There is dynamic protection and there is KAZ. These are two different things. The first serial DZ - "Blazer" from Rafael - was actually on Israeli tanks, but later it was abandoned.

[Insurgent]

And it’s like they used the m-48 for the first time

[Pimply]

Spike several modifications. Accordingly, the prices are different.


Mini-Spike - version with a short-range missile (about 1500 meters). Designed for use by infantry. The mass is 12 kg, and the weight of the rocket itself is only 4 kg. Projectile length - 70 cm, diameter - 75 mm.
Spike-SR - version with a short-range missile (near 200 — 800 m.), Designed for use by infantry (close combat, in urban environments). Weight 9 kg.
Spike-MR (also known [where?] As "Gil") - a modification with a medium-range missile (in the 200-2500 range of meters). Used by infantry and special forces. Weight 26 kg.
Spike-LR - a more long-range modification (maximum range 4000 meters). Used by infantry and for arming light combat vehicles. Weight 26 kg.
Spike-ER (previously known [to whom?] As NT-Dandy or NT-D) is a heavy long-range variant (maximum range of 8000 meters). The complex is available in versions for mobile combat systems and for helicopters. Weight 33 kg.
Spike NLOS (Eng. Non-Line Of Sight), "Tamuz" - anti-tank missile with a range of 25 kilometers and optoelectronic guidance, to hit targets that are out of line of sight, which can use external target designation. Weight 71 kg.

[Insurgent]

Well, it's kind of an analogue of the hermes of the Russian anti-tank system, though something is inaudible

[Professor]

I apologize for the rhetorical question. And who is Ukraine going to fight with?

[viruskvartirus]

Maybe with Romania ... God forbid, the probability is still extremely small ... but some things ... mm are annoying ...

[Splin]

Quote: professor

I apologize for the rhetorical question. And who is Ukraine going to fight with?

"WE DO NOT WANT WAR. BUT READY TO BREAK!"

[Insurgent]

Professor, have you carefully read everything?

[Professor]

Professor, have you carefully read everything?

What is it?