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North Korea tested its own rocket train

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BZHRK in position, the calculation takes its place


The DPRK is actively developing new missile weapons of all major classes designed to provide strategic deterrence. A new step in this direction was the creation of the first own combat railway missile system (BZHRK). Tests of this product with a combat training missile launch began a few days ago.

At the test stage


In recent days, the army and industry of North Korea have conducted several tests of various missile weapons... So, on September 11-12, there were successful tests of a promising mobile complex with a cruise missile. In an official statement, this product was called a strategic weapon of particular importance for the country's defense.

On September 15, the Ministry of Defense of South Korea announced that the DPRK was carrying out two new missile launches. It was found that ballistic missiles were launched from the central interior regions of the DPRK. Having overcome a route several hundred kilometers long, the missiles fell into the Sea of ​​Japan. The Japanese Self-Defense Forces confirmed this information, and also noted that North Korean missiles sank outside the territorial waters and the exclusive economic zone. As always, the country's officials condemned the DPRK.


Rocket lift

Soon, the Korean Central Telegraph Agency released official information about the tests. In addition, photographs and video footage of the BZHRK in position, preparation for launching and launching missiles were published.

According to the TsTAK, on ​​the morning of September 15, a railway missile regiment equipped with a new type of complexes was ordered to go into the mountainous terrain and deliver a training strike at a conditional target at a distance of 800 km. The calculation of the complex promptly reached a given firing position, deployed, and then launched two missiles. The tests were completed with the successful defeat of the intended target.

TsTAK reports that the BZHRK is being used for the first time, and the purpose of the tests was to practice combat use, assess combat readiness and determine the overall potential. The complex was created with the aim of "increasing the ability to deliver intensive simultaneous strikes" against enemy targets.


Original look


The published photo and video materials show the general appearance of the new North Korean BZHRK, although they do not reveal all of its features. At the same time, there is every reason to believe that an incomplete complex was involved in the demonstration tests, which did not fully meet the requirements of real duty.

BZHRK for test launches has a limited set of tools. It consisted of an M62 diesel locomotive and two carriages with special equipment. The first is probably intended for the transportation of the calculation and various technical means. The second contains launchers and other systems. Both special wagons are disguised as ordinary covered freight cars. Thus, the means of the missile complex outwardly almost do not differ from the usual rolling stock of the railways.

The launcher car uses standard biaxial bogies. At the same time, under the sides there are two pairs of jacks for support on the embankment and leveling. The car body features an openable roof of two halves; the flaps open separately. In addition, in the front and rear parts of the car, additional side hatches are provided for the discharge of reactive gases.


In the center of the car, behind the regular doorway, a certain protective-colored casing is noticeable, the filling of which is unclear. Also inside the car there are two lifting launch rails for missiles. The left (in the direction of travel) installation is in the front of the car, the right one - in the back. Thus, in the transport position, two missiles lie side by side and "towards" each other.

BZHRK missiles have a characteristic appearance formed by cylindrical and conical aggregates. The tail has rudders or stabilizers. Apparently, this missile was borrowed from a previously presented short-range complex known as the KN-23.

According to foreign data, the KN-23 rocket is a single-stage and is equipped with a solid-propellant engine. Product approx. 7,5 m and a mass of 3,4 tons, it carries a load of up to 500 kg. The launch range was previously estimated at 670-690 km. It follows from the latest reports of the TsTAK that this parameter reaches 800 km.


Official video footage shows a train of a locomotive and two carriages leaving the tunnel and stopping at a firing position. Then the missile men in protective suits leave their carriage and carry out the necessary manipulations. At the same time, one of the roof flaps was opened and the first rocket was raised. The launch is carried out in a "hot" way, for which hatches are opened in the sides of the car. After the launch of the first rocket, the complex prepared and launched the second.

Role in defense


So far, we are talking only about the first tests of the new BZHRK, but in the foreseeable future the project may reach mass production and the launch of a full-fledged combat alert. As a result, another modern missile system will appear in service with the Korean People's Army, and it will have a number of characteristic differences and advantages over other products.

The main advantages of the BZHRK are mobility and stealth. At the disposal of trains with missiles is approx. 6400 km of railways for constant movement and a large number of tunnels suitable for use as shelters. It will be extremely difficult to detect and track the complex on duty, and for this the probable enemy will have to attract all available reconnaissance means.


However, there are some drawbacks. Apparently, the Korean BZHRK does not have an overhead drainage system, which can lead to restrictions on the choice of launch sites. In addition, it is seen that the tracks must be equipped to use the jacks of the launcher. It is unlikely that the DPRK will prepare all its roads in this way. Preparation for launch after arriving at a position takes some time, on which efficiency and survivability may depend. However, the duration of such training is unknown, which does not allow drawing conclusions.

With the help of the KN-23 ballistic missile, the Korean BZHRK can attack strategically important objects of a potential enemy, and the launch is possible both from the border and from inland regions of the country. At the same time, such an ammunition does not allow solving all the urgent tasks of engaging distant targets of a potential enemy.

The complexity and cost of production of the complex are of great importance. The volumes of future production and, accordingly, the possible number of BZHRKs on duty and in reserve depend on them. A project with high potential could receive a corresponding priority - and all the necessary resources will be allocated for it.


Departure of the rocket from the launcher. You can consider the jacks of the car and the preparation of the tracks.

Safety and leadership


The DPRK presented its new BZHRK to the public. This suggests that his fate has already been decided. After all the necessary tests have been carried out, the complex will be put into service, put into series and will start constant watch and patrol. As a result, in the short term, a new important component will appear in the North Korean system of strategic deterrence.

It is curious that with its new project, the DPRK is included in a narrow circle of countries-developers of the BZHRK. She becomes only the fourth creator of such technology, and can also count on the second or third place among the countries that have adopted it - after the USSR and, possibly, China. At the same time, for some time, the DPRK may remain the only operator of the BZHRK in the world.

However, such "honorary titles" are only a pleasant addition to the main results of the project. The latter consists in adopting a fundamentally new model capable of strengthening the system of strategic deterrence. Probably, all this will again lead to criticism from abroad, but the DPRK values ​​its security higher than the opinion of third countries - and therefore will continue to develop missile weapons of all classes.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 20 September 2021 05: 15
    +6
    At the same time, such an ammunition does not allow solving all the urgent tasks of engaging distant targets of a potential enemy.
    For now, just for now, but Koreans are great!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 20 September 2021 05: 25
      +6
      I applaud the "northerners" ... about ours, I am silent.
    2. knn54
      knn54 20 September 2021 06: 04
      +2
      "Simple, but tasteful"!
    3. Finches
      Finches 20 September 2021 06: 08
      +9
      That is why they still do not have an "American" democracy with American military bases to boot!
    4. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 20 September 2021 07: 56
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      and the Koreans are great!

      Eunwoo should be told that the unmasking feature of the rocket car is the longitudinal seam along the roof. Careful She must hide. Thoroughly.
      1. Aag
        Aag 20 September 2021 14: 03
        +6
        Quote: Polite Moose
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        and the Koreans are great!

        Eunwoo should be told that the unmasking feature of the rocket car is the longitudinal seam along the roof. Careful She must hide. Thoroughly.

        From them it will become, - on all other, civilian cars, longitudinal stripes will be drawn ..)
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 20 September 2021 05: 39
    +3
    This is who you need to learn from to defend your independence ... step by step the Great Eun protects his country from the fate of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and does not look at the screams and screams from democratic countries that have turned into a bunch of jackals and hyenas.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 20 September 2021 05: 50
      +8
      Great Eun insists on protecting the North Korean people from the fate of the South Koreans.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 20 September 2021 05: 53
        -11
        protecting North Korea from the fate of South Korea.

        But what about ... South Korea is completely running errands for the United States ... Sher Khan's tobacco.
        And North Korea is completely free to choose its own destiny.
        1. Sergey1964
          Sergey1964 20 September 2021 06: 55
          +8
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          But what about ... South Korea is completely running errands for the United States ... Sher Khan's tobacco.
          And North Korea is completely free to choose its own destiny.

          That is why South Koreans are massively queuing up for permanent residence in North Korea.
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 20 September 2021 07: 39
            +3
            That is why South Koreans are massively queuing up for permanent residence in North Korea.
            That is why, in fact, a long-term blockade, the DPRK can launch ICBMs and almost satellites into space, while South Korea cannot. Although the southern one is fully favored internationally.
            1. Sergey1964
              Sergey1964 20 September 2021 09: 12
              +8
              Quote: abrakadabre
              The DPRK can launch ICBMs and almost satellites into space.

              And how does this affect the well-being of North Koreans?
              Quote: abrakadabre
              South Korea is not.

              And how does this affect the well-being of South Koreans?
              1. abrakadabre
                abrakadabre 20 September 2021 10: 02
                +1
                And how does this affect the well-being of North Koreans?
                Don't confuse warm with soft. The welfare of Koreans is primarily affected by the blockade / favored system. The rest is a consequence.
                At the same time, the presence of the rocket and space field in the DPRK speaks of scientific and industrial potential, despite the blockade. The presence of such potential is diametrically opposed to the point of view promoted in the Western media about the DPRK as a backward and starving "monkey with a grenade." A permanently starving country that has remained backward for more than half a century cannot steadily develop such industries. If this is beyond the power of even a fully developed and supported South Korea.
                1. Sergey1964
                  Sergey1964 20 September 2021 11: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: abrakadabre
                  The welfare of Koreans is primarily affected by the blockade / favored system.

                  Look at the map. Who exactly is blocking the DPRK? People's Republic of China? Actually, yes, the Chinese treat North Koreans like cattle, I personally observed it. But there is no talk of any blockade.
                2. Terran ghost
                  Terran ghost 20 September 2021 11: 29
                  +4
                  If this is beyond the power of even a fully developed and supported South Korea.

                  What exactly is South Korea "beyond its power"? South Korea has its own development of launch vehicles. Suddenly.
            2. Terran ghost
              Terran ghost 20 September 2021 09: 38
              +12
              almost satellites in space, but South Korea is not

              South Korea can hardly launch satellites into space. And to launch them there fully. The country has its own space program.
        2. Terran ghost
          Terran ghost 20 September 2021 09: 37
          -1
          And North Korea is completely free to choose its own destiny.

          Who exactly is free and in what? The filthy North Korean tyrant Kim Jong-un (may his remaining days in the world of the living be short, and death as swift and fierce as possible) is free to torture and torture the inhabitants of the North. Korea for the sake of its sadism, lust for power and exorbitant "geopolitical" ambitions?
        3. Hypertension
          Hypertension 20 September 2021 13: 58
          0
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          And North Korea is completely free to choose its own destiny.

          But no. The fate of the DPRK, if they do not want democratization on the part of the United States, is rampant militarization. Only in this way can they defend their independence. We are not talking about any "choice". As soon as they try to "choose" a peaceful way of confrontation with the United States, the message is gone.
        4. Spring fluff
          Spring fluff 20 September 2021 21: 34
          0
          If China and we forget to feed them, then the fate of the "free" people will be quickly decided
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 20 September 2021 06: 16
        0
        Quote: military_cat
        Great Eun insists on protecting the North Korean people from the fate of the South Koreans.

        Maybe Libya and Iraq?
  3. Michael
    Michael 20 September 2021 06: 20
    -2
    Kakhovka, Kakhovka - native rifle -
    Hot bullet, fly!
    Irkutsk and Warsaw, Oryol and Kakhovka -
    Stages of a long journey.
    The attack thundered and the bullets rang
    And evenly scribbled a machine gun ...
    And our girl passes in an overcoat,
    Burning Kakhovka goes ...
    Under the hot sun, under the blind night
    We had to go through a lot.
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train
    Standing on the siding!
    Do you remember, comrade, how you fought together
    How did a thunderstorm embrace us?
    Then we both smiled through the smoke
    Her blue eyes ...
    So remember our fighting youth,
    So let’s drink for our affairs,
    For our country, for my native Kakhovka,
    Where did our girl live ...
    Under the hot sun, under the blind night
    We had to go through a lot.
    We are peaceful people, according to our armored train
    Standing on the siding!
    1. mark1
      mark1 20 September 2021 07: 20
      +1
      Quote: Michael
      We are peaceful people, according to our armored train
      Standing on the siding!

      ... thundering with fire, sparkling with brilliance of steel ...
      wink
  4. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 September 2021 06: 26
    +3
    But I wonder if you load a couple of Iskanders into a railway gondola car and screw a couple of jacks to the car, can it be considered a BZHRK?
    1. Sergey1964
      Sergey1964 20 September 2021 06: 58
      -2
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      and screw a couple of jacks to the car

      Do you mean a couple of representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia? As they say, two in one - both democrats and liberals in one person.
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 20 September 2021 08: 07
        +3
        Quote: Sergey1964
        Do you mean a couple of representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia?

        No.
        I mean exactly what I wrote.
        Jack is a lifting and supporting mechanism.
        Leave your fantasies to yourself.
        1. Sergey1964
          Sergey1964 20 September 2021 09: 10
          +4
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          Leave your fantasies to yourself.

          I beg your pardon. The habit of speed reading over a cup of morning coffee failed. Instead of "jacks" I read "democrats". An error in the pattern recognition system can happen to everyone. Once again I apologize. ))
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 20 September 2021 07: 45
      +1
      But I wonder if you load a couple of Iskanders into a railway gondola car and screw a couple of jacks to the car, can it be considered a BZHRK?
      Will. Unless the range of his tasks will be different. It will not be strategic, but operational and tactical.
    3. Hagen
      Hagen 20 September 2021 08: 48
      +1
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      But I wonder if you load a couple of Iskanders into a railway gondola car and screw a couple of jacks to the car, can it be considered a BZHRK?

      It is not the name that is important, but the efficiency ... I think if you "finish" the Club-K system, pack the upgraded Caliber with an increased firing range in a standard ISO container, then it will be quite possible to covertly move it by car, railway and river transport and concentrate it it in the required place in the required quantity. In this case, the need for a BZHRK, at least meaning the European theater of operations, will disappear. Well, how will the period of the main rearmament of the RF Armed Forces end, after the program is completed, approximately after 2025, they will also remember about the Barguzin, but perhaps with new solutions.
  5. kind
    kind 20 September 2021 06: 39
    +2
    The missile is very similar to our Iskander
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 20 September 2021 07: 48
      +2
      The missile is very similar to our Iskander
      More than. Even the performance characteristics are similar plus or minus.
  6. mark1
    mark1 20 September 2021 06: 54
    0
    All this can be perfectly done from a car platform disguised as a trailer. and there are probably a lot of automobile tunnels - there is neither tactical nor strategic sense to install an operational-tactical missile on a railway platform, and even with such a small territory of the country
    Yu.K. makes an aircraft carrier and S.K. in response to OT BZHRK - in both cases it is pointless, expensive, and excessive.
    1. Sergey1964
      Sergey1964 20 September 2021 07: 10
      +8
      Quote: mark1
      Yu.K. makes an aircraft carrier and S.K. in response to OT BZHRK - in both cases it is pointless, expensive, and excessive.

      According to UN estimates, South Korea's GDP is 100 (one hundred) times larger than North Korea's. So the South Koreans will not become much poorer from the construction of an aircraft carrier. ))
  7. Borisych
    Borisych 20 September 2021 07: 16
    -4
    I read all these articles about North Korea, but I don't see any conclusions. I will tell you the conclusion. The top authorities in the DPRK are the greatest blackmailers in the history of the peoples. Dreamers of free fat and panties from Europe are getting closer to them, but the difference is that the DPRK is an established state that has proven in practice that it has a right to exist no less than the same mistakes of history such as the United States or Canada. And the territory-gasket with a clown in the head will die like that. No one will remember about clowns when several regions are added to Russia. And all the great rocket trains, cannons scorching from the shores of the Korean in white light, rockets that look like empty ampoules of antiviral drugs - all this is the ENTRANCE OF THE GREAT SHANTAGE.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 20 September 2021 07: 29
      +2
      Quote: Borisych
      I will tell you the conclusion. The top power in the DPRK is the greatest blackmailers in the history of peoples

      And who are the Koreans blackmailing and what do they demand in exchange? Directly they say: "Give us a trillion dollars, or are we going around Seoul and Tokyo!"?
  8. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 20 September 2021 07: 22
    -3
    Well, well done Koreans! Now the Americans will not dare to bomb Korea democratically, as they did with Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan.
  9. Docx2032
    Docx2032 20 September 2021 07: 36
    +3
    The DPRK is fully satisfied with the steady build-up of its military, scientific and engineering-technological potential. A good example of how to develop your country, not paying attention to ill-wishers of all stripes. More recently, many giggled at the Chinese with their cultural revolutions, family blast furnaces and low-quality consumer goods. Today, everyone is looking at China from the bottom up. The same will happen with a united Korea. Asians have a huge potential.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 20 September 2021 08: 08
      0
      Quote: DocX2032
      The same will happen with a united Korea. Asians have a huge potential.

      Koreans, like their neighbors, the Chinese and Japanese, are hardworking and disciplined people, if Korea were united, then the 70 million country would become one of the giants of the world economy after the United States, China, Japan and Germany. It's a shame Korea is still divided negative
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 20 September 2021 23: 06
        +1
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya

        Koreans, like their neighbors, the Chinese and Japanese, are hardworking and disciplined people, if Korea were united, then the 70 million country would become one of the giants of the world economy after the United States, China, Japan and Germany. It's a shame Korea is still divided negative
        Do you Kuzma Kuzmich want Russia to have another "young growing tiger" in the Far East, who will look with appetite at Vladivostok and beyond?
        I treat the inhabitants of both Koreas normally, but so far they are separately and not so strong.
        The Germans now united with our active participation (USSR) and now united Germany to NATO ... But Belarus and I have been "neither there - nor here" for 30 years, and gas prices for Belarus are "below the plinth."
        hi
    2. Sergey1964
      Sergey1964 20 September 2021 09: 22
      +5
      Quote: DocX2032
      The DPRK is fully satisfied with the steady build-up of its military, scientific and engineering-technological potential.

      I am sure that your satisfaction is extremely important for North Koreans in general, and for Kim Jong-un in particular. But I do not exclude the possibility that VO is not read in North Korea. So, in my opinion, you had better express this satisfaction personally.
      Quote: DocX2032
      Today, everyone is looking at China from the bottom up.

      Not everyone. China has serious economic problems, and these problems will only grow in the future. In short, they have exhausted the driver in the form of cheap labor, and they have not been able to create a new driver.
      Quote: DocX2032
      The same will happen with a united Korea.

      The rich Republic of Korea (10th in terms of GDP) is unlikely to want to unite with the impoverished DPRK (125th in terms of GDP).
  10. Fitter65
    Fitter65 20 September 2021 09: 11
    +1
    The DPRK values ​​its security more than the opinion of third countries - and therefore will continue to develop missile weapons of all classes.
    This is the most correct decision.
  11. Max PV
    Max PV 20 September 2021 09: 26
    +1
    Something vague doubts torment me ... The rocket is very similar to the 9M723, both in appearance and in characteristics, but the range is 800 km, instead of the 500 we have declared. And I very much doubt that the DPRK's rocketry is better. This means that it is very likely that the Iskander OTRK, when firing not along an aeroballistic trajectory with maneuvering, but along a conventional ballistic trajectory, can also reach a much more distant target. However, it is not surprising, especially after the "Calibers", the range of which before combat use was estimated according to the export version. Of course, the ballistic trajectory is not without drawbacks, such as vulnerability to missile defense systems and controversy in the event of a re-conclusion of the treaty on intermediate and shorter-range missiles. But, on the other hand, the ability to reach much more distant targets is very, very useful.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 September 2021 10: 04
    +1
    Considering that our Iskanders can also shoot KR ...., then a similar train with a launcher with a KR type Caliber can seriously strengthen the desired direction. And, taking into account the length and congestion of the RF railway, tracking it is a big problem. And 50 -100 KR pieces at your side is a good reinforcement. And there is no need to build ships
    1. Sergey1964
      Sergey1964 20 September 2021 11: 41
      -1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      a similar train with a PU with a KR type Caliber can seriously strengthen the desired direction.

      The right direction is China? Will not help. If China decides to arrange a small victorious war in the Far East and Siberia, the first thing it does is paralyze the Transsib with saboteurs who have infiltrated under the guise of guest workers. Well, at the same time, the local authorities are paralyzed. I, of course, am not a military man - but this move (paralyzing the railways plus the paralyzing of the authorities by the forces of the same saboteurs) is straightforward. Actually, the BAM, as far as I know, was built precisely in order to make it difficult for China to make such a move with the Trans-Siberian Railway. But taking into account the modern capabilities of China, he will cut the BAM without any problems.
      At the same time, as soon as it smells of fried, all local officials will patriotically rush to the West (I can say this as a resident of Krasnoyarsk), the region will plunge into chaos, and the Kremlin will take a long time to figure out what's what. Then Lavrov (or whoever will be there instead of him) will express deep concern and demand that the Security Council be convened.
      In the place of the Chinese leadership (in case they want a small victorious war), I would arrange it in the winter, somewhere in the New Year holidays. It can be imagined as a humanitarian operation - helping the PLA to freezing residents of Siberia and the Far East. A series of sabotage on transport and civilian objects, cities freeze (physically freeze), the authorities fled, and then the PLA appears to save us. Field kitchens, generators and all that. Yes, they will be greeted with flowers.
    2. Barberry25
      Barberry25 20 September 2021 12: 53
      0
      And what is preventing missile brigades from being deployed in dangerous areas now? The point is that missile trains are interesting precisely in the nuclear version. In our country, this topic has been shelved for now, while they are being updated at the expense of Yars, Bulava and Voevoda.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 20 September 2021 14: 03
        0
        The train can give a mass start ... ..and targets: Europe, Asia, TWA.
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 20 September 2021 14: 31
          0
          we will use weapons only in case of obvious aggression, and there they will be allowed from everything that is, so the trains will not make the weather
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 20 September 2021 16: 44
            0
            They will do ... No need to use nuclear weapons ... Everything is conventional
            1. Barberry25
              Barberry25 20 September 2021 16: 49
              0
              well, consider what is more convenient for you
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 20 September 2021 19: 32
                0
                I don't think so .... The military, otherwise they would not put Caliber on everything that floats ... With conventional warheads
                1. Barberry25
                  Barberry25 20 September 2021 20: 06
                  0
                  but do not order container versions ..
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 20 September 2021 22: 29
                    0
                    My thoughts are just about the carrier of a large number of CD ...
  13. Split
    Split 20 September 2021 11: 32
    0
    a large number of tunnels suitable for use as shelters

    I wonder if other trains will tunnel through them? (I'm talking about quantum tunneling discovered by Georgy Gamov). I do not think that the tunnels in the mountain were built so that there was a siding inside lol
    It is clear that the suburbs with electric trains have 2 tracks, the main highways are at the country level, but in fact, everywhere at the level of districts, single-track with stations ...
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 20 September 2021 14: 36
      0
      Quote: Split
      will other trains tunnel through them?

      During the fighting, where will the other trains come from? The BZHRK will come out of its permanent shelter and hide in any of the many tunnels (Korea is a mountainous country, this is not the Moscow region for you), but stop everyone else.
      1. Split
        Split 20 September 2021 14: 56
        0
        Interestingly, the reaction time of our early warning system is several minutes ... Where will the BZHRD go? They are needed where they stand. Their advantage is mobility, constant change of position ... what's the point differently?
        1. Jacket in stock
          Jacket in stock 20 September 2021 15: 04
          0
          Quote: Split
          mobility, constant change of position ...

          Either to specially prepared positions that do not intersect with a public road, or to a general one, but only during a threatened period when the rest of the movement is stopped.

          what's the point otherwise?
          as a deterrent. The very presence of such weapons as an extra reason to think - do we need to fight them?
          1. Split
            Split 20 September 2021 15: 17
            +1
            I don’t know about the DPRK, the meaning of the satellites .... they have already been working on the trained intellect for a long time ... we have probably abandoned the brjd for this reason, in fact, and abandoned it. It is impossible to hide a whole train, which is essentially stupidly rolling back and forth, if something is equipped, they will immediately be spotted. A dozen BJRDs are nothing compared to an NS, and already compared to a group of strategic nuclear forces, the launch of which is guaranteed by an early warning system! If the early warning system did not guarantee a retaliatory strike, it would have been inflicted a long time ago ... there skyscrapers are shot down by planes even ...
            Although honestly, watching the launch ... I doubt that such a mine can be destroyed even with a direct hit ... it would rather remain hanging in the air ... hundreds of tons of steel ... one lid is worth it ... when I'm 20 years old I saw back ... was in ... a ... shock
  14. venik
    venik 20 September 2021 13: 02
    0
    "...Apparently, this missile was borrowed from a previously presented short-range complex, known as the KN-23..."
    =======
    And the missile of the KN-23 complex itself somehow suspiciously looks like the 9M723 missile of the Iskander OTRK !!! what


    (on the left - 9M723, on the right - the Korean "analog").

    TTX missiles:
    ......................................9М723................KN-23
    Length, m: ............................. 7,2 .............. ................ 7,5
    Diameter (max), m: .............. 0.95 ............................ 0.95
    Dry weight, kg ...................- .......................... ...... 835
    Fuel weight, kg ...............- .............................. .2530
    Starting weight, kg ........... 3800 ........................... 3415
    Warhead weight, kg ........................ 480 ..................... ........ 500
    Flight range, km: .....> 450 ............................ ~ 450

    Sources of (main):
    1. https://missilery.info/missile/iscander
    2. https://naukatehnika.com/korejskaya-raketa-kn-23-i-rossijskij-iskander-m.html
    PS Conclusions, as they say, are superfluous, more precisely: everyone can do it himself ... request
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 20 September 2021 14: 09
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      Koreans can make MRBM for a long time. GOS, trajectory, target reconnaissance ... ..
  15. mvg
    mvg 20 September 2021 14: 00
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    Everything is as usual. The article begins with CD, ends with a ballistic one. Either I am, or skis do not go. And this is the second article of the author on this topic with the same error .. in the course of the article is not his. Not his style, translation.
    1. venik
      venik 20 September 2021 15: 22
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      Quote: mvg
      Everything is as usual. The article begins with CD, ends with a ballistic one. Either I am, or skis do not go. And this is the second article of the author on this topic with the same error .. in the course of the article is not his. Not his style, translation.

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      Have you, Maxim, CAREFULLY read the article? Looks like diagonally! It clearly says: ".....So, 11-12 September successfully tested a promising mobile complex with cruise missile... .... and further: ....15 September, the Ministry of Defense of South Korea announced two new missile launches by the DPRK. It was found that Ballistic missiles started from the central interior regions of the DPRK ...".
      Those; 11-12 September tested BZHRK with cruise missiles, and 15 September - from ballistic!!!
      So, it looks like you have "skis do not go"!
      PS If the author can be blamed for something, it is that he slurred voiced this situation! hi
      1. mvg
        mvg 20 September 2021 15: 34
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        If the author can be blamed for something, it is that he vaguely voiced this situation.

        Well, check out his previous article .. on this topic. On September 11-12, the CD was tested, there are pictures in the internet
        (as many as 2 pieces). There is no talk of any BZHRK. Extrauterinely watch the press hi The author posted pictures of a ballistic missile. He doesn't care that winged, that ballistic.
        Today is the 20th ... there is a "news" about a ballistic missile from 15.09 and a cut-down BZHRK. Skis may not go, but I read carefully. Only not such authors. And the style is not his, his only mistakes, as usual. From incompetence.
        PS: Yours faithfully, MV
        1. venik
          venik 20 September 2021 18: 39
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          Quote: mvg
          Well, check out his previous article .. on this topic. On September 11-12, the CD was tested, there are pictures in the internet
          (as many as 2 pieces). There is no question of any BZHRK.

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          Did the article say that September 11-12 were tested CD with BZHRK? WHERE did you see it ??? I do not know how "ectopic" or there "intrauterine" or how else ..... request It just says about mobile version and even does not decipher in any way WHAT mobile - towed, self-propelled, automobile, tracked, railway .....: "...So, on September 11-12, successful tests of the promising rolling complex with a cruise missile..."
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          Quote: mvg
          Skis may not go, but I read carefully.

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          Yes? what You managed not only to read the article "diagonally", but even my commentary! (ie - "only a pale person can step on the same rake twice!" request wink
          PS Sincerely yours, V.N.
  16. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 20 September 2021 14: 04
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    Quote: Max PV
    The oo missile is very similar to the 9M723, both in appearance and in characteristics, but the range is 800 km, instead of the 500 we declared.

    The North Korean missile is slightly larger than Iskander in size.
    In addition, the main thing here is not the rocket, but the railway complex which is very well suited for larger missiles (ICBMs) and solves the problem with the lack of necessary vehicles.
    1. venik
      venik 20 September 2021 14: 33
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      Quote: Kostadinov
      The North Korean missile is slightly larger than Iskander in size.

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      Yes! According to the available data: ah 30 cm longer ( lol ) ....
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      Quote: Kostadinov
      In addition, the main thing here is not a rocket, but a railway complex.

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      And here: What Yes, then Yes !!! drinks And they contrived to disguise the train as an ordinary freight train with standard heating units! Try to identify it among hundreds of other freight trains running around the country!
  17. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 20 September 2021 14: 07
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    So, on September 11-12, there were successful tests of a promising mobile complex with a cruise missile.

    In this case, the mobile complex was hit by a car with 5 guides.
  18. RoTTor
    RoTTor 20 September 2021 17: 18
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    Backward RED KOREA:
    Dumb-headed Estonian politicians got scared
  19. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 20 September 2021 17: 44
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    Yes! Based on the available data: ah 30 cm longer

    Danny is different - there are also these: diameter 1,1 m and length 8,7 meters. Somewhat thicker and 150 cm longer than Iskander.
  20. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 20 September 2021 17: 57
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    Quote: Dead Day
    I applaud the "northerners" ... about ours, I am silent.

    Why be silent about ours.
    The plywood is doing well.
    Until the Soviet groundwork is exhausted, we can continue to discuss another "novelty"
    Eun is a great person. The country is very limited in any resources, but the defense capability is increased by:

    https://t.me/Reddit/17422

    A little off topic:
    Shooters about Luntik:

    https://t.me/strelkovii/1684
  21. Glagol1
    Glagol1 28 October 2021 12: 58
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    With a range of 700-800 km, a significant part of Japan is in the affected area. Special munitions for such a missile will be delivered without any problems. An effective deterrent.
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