Wheeled version of the Sosna air defense missile system

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SAM "Sosna" experimental appearance on the ground. Graphics KB Tochmash

In the interests of the air defense of the ground forces, a promising self-propelled anti-aircraft missile system "Sosna" is now being developed. Its serial appearance has been formed and approved, but at the same time, the search for alternative solutions continues. So, at the last forum "Army-2021" for the first time showed a new modification of "Pine" on a non-standard chassis in the form of an armored personnel carrier BTR-82A.

Ways of development


SAM "Sosna" is being developed by the Design Bureau of Precision Engineering. A.E. Nudelman (part of the Almaz-Antey VKO concern) with the assistance of a number of other organizations. The aim of the project is to create a short-range air defense system for military air defense, capable of replacing the aging products of the Strela-10 line. At the same time, it was planned to retain some of the capabilities of the predecessor, as well as increase all the main characteristics.



The main component of the Sosna air defense system is a combat module with search and control equipment, as well as a missile launcher. According to the project, such a module, in its original or modified form, can be installed on different chassis, depending on the customer's requirements. Such capabilities are already being demonstrated with the help of exhibition samples, and in the future they will be used in the rearmament of the Russian army.

The first version of "Sosna", shown to the customer and the public, was made on the MT-LB multipurpose chassis. The prototype of this appearance has passed the entire test cycle and confirmed the calculated characteristics. At the "Army-2019" revealed the serial appearance of the complex, which uses a newer BMP-3 chassis. In addition, as the tests progressed, changes were made to the design of the combat module, its equipment and missiles.


The Pines unified combat module at the Army-2021 exposition. Photo by KB Tochmash

SAM "Sosna" is created for air defense units of the ground forces. In parallel, a complex for the airborne troops called "Birds" is being developed on its basis. Reportedly, it will again use a unified combat module with a modern missile defense system. They will be placed on the BMD-4M chassis. This will simplify the operation of the anti-aircraft complex in the airborne forces, and also make it airborne.

New chassis


The experimental and serial appearance of the "Sosna", as well as the complex "Poultry" combines the use of tracked chassis. At the same time, the unified combat module can also be used with wheeled vehicles that meet the requirements for carrying capacity, power supply, etc. Not so long ago, it was decided to use such theoretical possibilities in practice.

In June last year, the management of the "Military-Industrial Company" spoke about their plans for the further development of the existing armored personnel carrier BTR-82A. It was reported that on the basis of this machine, several new projects of equipment for various purposes are being created. In particular, the issue of creating a wheeled modification of the Sosna air defense system was being worked out. Any details of such a project were not specified.

In February of this year, "VPK" confirmed the work on the "Pine" on the basis of the BTR-82A. By this time, the prototyping was carried out, and in the near future it was planned to start new stages of the project.


Model of a wheel complex at IDEX 2021. Photo by Armyrecognition.com

In March, at the IDEX 2021 exhibition, Tochmash KB showed the possible appearance of a wheeled "Sosna". At the company's stand there was a model with a well-known combat module based on the BTR-70. Why this outdated chassis was chosen is unclear. However, even such a model showed the fundamental possibility of creating a new modification of the air defense system, and also indirectly confirmed the continuation of work.

A full-fledged sample of the new look was first shown at the Army-2021 forum. The basis for it, as it was reported last year, was the BTR-82A chassis. During the construction of the prototype, the roof of the hull underwent some changes. Also, it was necessary to rebuild the internal volumes of the troop compartment and change the composition of the units. The rest of the armored personnel carrier remained the same.

Project Perspectives


The future of the previously created versions of Pine is already known. The modification on the MT-LB chassis will remain experimental, and the version on the BMP-3 body will soon go into production. In 2024-25. The Airborne Forces will be able to receive their first air defense systems "Ptitselov" on the BMD-4M airborne landing gear. In addition, the Sosna project has significant export prospects, and foreign customers can purchase complexes in different configurations.

Plans for a new wheel modification have not yet been disclosed. Perhaps they plan to offer it to the Ministry of Defense for evaluation. In addition, the layout of such an air defense system was demonstrated at a foreign exhibition - probably to interest foreign armies. In this case, the base in the form of the BTR-70 was supposed to show the fundamental possibility of building "Sosna" not only on modern chassis.

Wheeled version of the Sosna air defense missile system

"Pine" on the BTR-82A chassis. Photo Bmpd.livejournal.com

The plans of the developers and the army for the Sosna air defense missile system with the BTR-82A chassis are unknown. However, you can identify the strengths and weaknesses of such a project, as well as try to predict its future. In general, this development looks quite interesting and can find its place in our armed forces or in foreign armies.

The key characteristics of the new version of "Sosna" are determined by a unified combat module with a developed optoelectronic station and fire control means, as well as a modern SAM "Sosna-R". These components of the air defense missile system have already passed the necessary tests and revision, after which they were recommended for adoption. Accordingly, in terms of combat characteristics, the air defense missile system on a wheeled chassis should not differ from the equipment of the experimental and serial appearance.

The BTR-82A chassis, like other used samples, has a high potential in terms of unification and operation in the army. The Russian army has a large fleet of BTR-82A, BMP-3 and MT-LB, which will simplify the operation of all Sosna modifications. At the same time, a new-built wheeled chassis or converted from an old BTR-80 is significantly cheaper than tracked vehicles, both in production and in use.

Wheeled chassis have well-known advantages over tracked chassis. First of all, these are higher indicators of mobility and mobility on roads. The wheeled version of the "Sosna" will be able to accompany the troops not only at the front line or in the near rear, but also during long-distance transport. He is quite capable of moving in one column with tank carriers and other equipment - and protecting them from an attack from the air.


View from a different angle. Photo by KB Tochmash

It should be borne in mind that on terrain the BTR-82A is inferior to tracked armored vehicles. At the same time, it fully meets the requirements of the Ministry of Defense for its class of equipment. Consequently, the air defense system based on it corresponds to the specifics of combat use in different landscapes.

In view of the characteristic differences and the specific ratio of characteristics, the wheeled "Pine" can hardly be considered as a replacement for the tracked model of the serial appearance. However, such a complex can supplement it, taking into account certain circumstances. So, in motorized rifle units, wheeled armored personnel carriers and tracked infantry fighting vehicles are used in parallel, and the same approach can be applied in the further development of military air defense.

Unclear future


Thus, the wheeled modification of the Sosna air defense missile system is a rather interesting project from a technical point of view. Its main result is the combination of the strengths of a unified combat module and a modern armored chassis. The resulting car differs significantly from other modifications of the complex, which improves the technical, operational and even commercial prospects of the entire line.

However, the future of the "Sosna" on the BTR-82A chassis is still uncertain. The project was recently developed, and the prototype hardly had time to pass all the necessary tests. In addition, potential customers have not yet had the opportunity to carefully study such an air defense system and draw conclusions.

However, the widespread use of ready-made components will be useful in this context as well. It will speed up testing and fine-tuning, thanks to which it will be possible to start accepting orders in the near future. And after that, the fate of the wheeled "Sosna" will depend only on the plans of the Ministry of Defense.
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  1. +6
    10 September 2021 05: 20
    Great trend. To accompany the wheel columns, the very ...
    1. 0
      10 September 2021 20: 49
      Quote: svp67
      To accompany the wheel columns, the very ...
      And in my opinion, this is of little use: it is protection against classic attack aircraft or dive bombers, against all the others the range is too small. And our most probable partners do not like to use a classic attack, everyone strives to bang a rocket from a distance. And against drones - the height of the defeat is small. With the chassis you need to make Thor or Carapace, and leave the Igloo to the infantry.
    2. 0
      10 September 2021 23: 52
      Quote: svp67
      To accompany the wheel columns, the very ...

      Wed travel speed car columns is 25-30 km /h, mixed and a tank. columns - 20-25 km / h, pedestrian columns - 4-5 km / h (on skis 5-7 km / h)

      why didn’t suit the carapace on the wheels?
      at the pine OES with laser guidance.
      An increase in the combat stability of the air defense system was achieved by abandoning the use of radar detection systems, in order to reduce the vulnerability of the enemy's anti-radar weapons.

      she needs to "get out of the shadow (dust)": stand aside
      Missile control system - teleoriented in a laser beam

      PPRU "Assembly-M1-2" (9S80M1-2) should also stand, as far as I understand
      there is no difference (for us) a tracked or wheeled mover.
      For autobahns-yes: wheeled
    3. 0
      3 November 2021 19: 49
      From whom? Helicopters? Various baiyraktars arrive there and rastrlivaet the column, Just like the Armenians. 5 km ideally. You think it's covered from the air, but really nifiga. seemingly obsolete at birth and weapons. Or am I missing something? Provide a call.

      Zones of defeat, SAM "Sosna" km:
      range: 1,3 — 10,0
      in height: 0,002-5,0

      Sorry, I am writing in transliteration.
  2. 0
    10 September 2021 05: 23
    It should be borne in mind that on terrain the BTR-82A is inferior to tracked armored vehicles. At the same time, it fully meets the requirements of the Ministry of Defense for its class of equipment.
    The chassis will obviously be overloaded, and the ability to float will lose no less clearly. Maybe by giving up the ability to swim and it will be possible to reduce weight, but not radically, as it seems to me.
  3. +9
    10 September 2021 05: 56
    And what does the MTLB chassis not suit you and why is it necessary to mount the BMP-3? After all, the units still have MTLB, so there is unification. Moreover, MTLB has always acted as a kind of additional equipment for everything that needs to be loaded or attached. And the BMP-3 chassis is useful for basic purposes. Not too many rivet
    1. -2
      10 September 2021 10: 50
      And what does the MTLB chassis do not suit you and why is it necessary to mount the BMP-3?

      It is not mass-produced anymore.
      1. +5
        10 September 2021 12: 12
        Muromteplovoz OJSC is deeply outraged by your statement.

        http://muromteplovoz.ru/product/mil.php
        1. 0
          12 September 2021 00: 15
          Quote: alexmach
          And what does the MTLB chassis do not suit you and why is it necessary to mount the BMP-3?

          It is not mass-produced anymore.

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          Quote: demiurg
          Muromteplovoz OJSC is deeply outraged by your statement.

          =======
          Kurganmashzavod - too !!!
          PS June 16 this year. the Pacific Fleet marines received the first batch of BMP-3F ...
  4. Owl
    +2
    10 September 2021 06: 06
    At one time, in the early 90s, everyone was waiting for the replacement in the SMB with armored personnel carriers, 120 mm mortars transported by GAZ-66 cars, 120 mm "Nona-SVK", a tactical unit would have been created with one base chassis (BTR- 80) for the direct combat operations of individual platoons (GDV, PTV, ISV, RV) and MSR, and having only diesel Urals for rear units. But all this never happened, even the P-145 KShMki were not replaced. In the current situation, to create battalions, brigades with one base chassis is the right decision, but this decision will depend on financial resources, and these funds are more likely to be "laundered" and plundered than used for the defense of the State ...
  5. +2
    10 September 2021 06: 36
    And how is he doing with the center of gravity, and then, that, somersault on a turn and yours are not?
    1. 0
      10 September 2021 14: 37
      so do not exceed the speed indicated in the manual, and there will be no somersaults ... hi
      1. +1
        10 September 2021 14: 49
        I don’t remember when the hostilities were conducted according to instructions. Of course we tried, but in practice it is a little wrong.
  6. +3
    10 September 2021 06: 39
    Wheeled modification of the Sosna air defense missile system, including an orientation towards the foreign market.
    1. 0
      11 September 2021 18: 27
      Quote: riwas
      Wheeled modification of the Sosna air defense missile system, including an orientation towards the foreign market.

      Not only, at the 102nd and 201st WB, they belong ...
  7. +5
    10 September 2021 07: 41
    In the air defense system, the main missile and the detection / guidance station. And the chassis is the third question, if not the fifth.
    If the module is really universal, it should easily and naturally get up on everything that drives - an infantry fighting vehicle, an armored personnel carrier, a truck, or even a cart with a horse.
    There, the Americans put their air defense systems on jeeps.
  8. -3
    10 September 2021 09: 54
    ahahah if you already write articles, but do it right. Where did the author see an armored personnel carrier 70? And so the article is continuous and even with errors.
    1. +2
      10 September 2021 10: 27
      3rd photo in the article. True, in the form of a mock-up, there is an BTR-70.
      1. -3
        10 September 2021 10: 39
        Why is this an armored personnel carrier 70?
        1. +2
          10 September 2021 10: 48
          Look at the side landing hatches? Compare the same on the BTR 80 or 82.
          1. -6
            10 September 2021 10: 51
            Ahahha well, everything is clear then. This is the level of course. Then nona svk did it on the basis of the BTR 70, according to your logic. for a start, at least read it before writing.
            1. +4
              10 September 2021 11: 10
              It seems that the rudeness also communicated normally. Why should I read? I served, the BTR-70 was on the conscript, and that hemorrhoid was to be parachuted from it in full combat. Compare the photo of the layout with the 80s and laugh to your health. The only thing is that the manufacturers of the layout did not make a 1: 1 layout of the 70s. Ritch further.
              1. -4
                10 September 2021 11: 20
                kapets, you have a level of knowledge, of course, only what to write for if you don’t know the devil! what does your urgent service have to do with it. that the BTR 70 differs from the BTR 80 only by the landing hatch! you dishonor yourself.
                1. 0
                  11 September 2021 18: 39
                  Quote: sanek45744
                  that the BTR 70 differs from the BTR 80 only by the landing hatch!

                  In the 70s, two engines stand from the GAZ-53, each of them working on the front and rear axles, on the BTR-80 there is one KAMAZ engine, outwardly they almost do not differ only in side hatches and the back of the BTR-70 seems to go down a little .. ..
                  what does your urgent service have to do with it

                  ... which "cauldron" did you yourself serve? ... the burnt-out BTR-70 and -80 are no different ...
                  1. -4
                    11 September 2021 19: 09
                    Ahahah, damn it from where you come from. Stand up and think you're right. And then they complain that everything is bad. One wrote the article incorrectly, he was corrected. And then they swooped down, one served, the other burned))))
                    1. -1
                      11 September 2021 19: 14
                      Quote: sanek45744
                      Ahahah, damn it from where you come from.

                      Don't be mad, I've found pictures for you ...

                      Here is the Kazakh version of the BTR-70

                      http://www.saktagan.com/special-trucks/574/modernizatsiya-btr
                      In the "boilers" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, of course, more tracked armored vehicles have been lost, you have less wheeled armored personnel carriers ...
                      1. -5
                        11 September 2021 23: 01
                        but who's mad, I'm funny with you downs. with Kazakh, of course, you actually smoked something wrong!
                      2. 0
                        14 September 2021 15: 54
                        what do you smoke?
                      3. -1
                        14 September 2021 15: 56
                        why are you interested in?
                      4. 0
                        14 September 2021 15: 58
                        for educational purposes I am interested in
                      5. -1
                        14 September 2021 16: 00
                        I will upset you, I do not use anything.
  9. 0
    10 September 2021 10: 06
    Do these vehicles have ATGMs in the BC? There are optics .... the caliber is quite enough.
    1. +4
      10 September 2021 10: 27
      Why does this complex need a shell? He has no cannon. C in the abbreviation ATGM means a projectile.

      And so there was such an American-Swiss air defense system ADATS. Even Canada was in service. Its missiles had armor penetration of 900 mm.

      1. +2
        10 September 2021 21: 57
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Why does this complex need a shell? He has no cannon. C in the abbreviation ATGM means a projectile.

        And so there was such an American-Swiss air defense system ADATS. Even Canada was in service. Its missiles had armor penetration of 900 mm.

        I was just expecting a mention of ADATS from you, I was right!)
      2. +1
        11 September 2021 00: 16
        I always thought they put him on the striker.
        1. +3
          11 September 2021 00: 20
          It was ADATS that was based on the M113 for Canada (photo above), for the USA it was planned for Bradley + 25mm autocannon.


          There was a project for the continuation of this series of Multi-Mission Effects Vehicles (MMEV) he was on LAV III (based on Stryker made).
  10. +1
    10 September 2021 12: 18
    Pine, this is the regimental brigade level. Range 10 km, height 5 km. Not enough at the present time.
    On the one hand, undetectable before the launch of the missile defense system. On the other hand, the single-channel air defense system has a small affected area. If you integrate it into something more powerful, then the thing is useful.
  11. +1
    10 September 2021 13: 22
    Why not put it on the URAL instead of the Katyusha? Locator and 40 rockets from Sosna. It will be very cool. Or hide the "Pine" in a groove or another suitable bus, it will be a cool disguise.
  12. 0
    12 September 2021 23: 22
    Modification on the MT-LB chassis will remain experimental

    ---
    That's right. In what year the last motorcycle league was released.
    1. +1
      14 September 2021 15: 56
      the above comrade gave a link, it is great that they are releasing it now
      1. 0
        14 December 2021 01: 46
        Exactly? Or they simply take it from storage and restore it.
  13. 0
    13 September 2021 10: 40
    Air defense must solve various issues, and one complex cannot respond to all threats. But you also need to remember how it ended in 1941. A motley fleet of armored vehicles. Due to the different caliber, lack of spare parts, equipment was thrown and undermined. How not to step on a rake.
  14. 0
    5 October 2021 18: 02
    Quote: Intruder
    And you, hi good years and fruitful ...
    that the laser, in any case in bad weather conditions, is significantly inferior to the radar and radio command guidance method!
    Duc, of course ... if the targeting problem is actively solved (in the beam mode), it is to shine tens or even hundreds of watts of coherent ... into the side / nose / rear of an air target, for that and an active location, for the lazy ... wink But if, with an "expensive" optical system (there the laser is not so cheap ... and other optical modules) remove the optical signature of the target upon detection on the ground / position of the air defense missile system, and write it into the cache buffer of the OMS air defense missile system, and then its spectral characteristics (the thermal parameters of any turbojet / gas turbine engine are unique in their structure and are reliably analyzed in any mode of its operation in flight) output to the data bus and push it into the racket before launch, in a couple of ms., plus the hyperspectral matrix of that the same sensitivity (class: II | HUV) in the PGSN of the same missile defense system (here it is already more expensive ...) to have, then this semiconductor laser is not needed, at the operating range of the air defense missile system, which provides, especially this "Pine" !!! But we, until now: ".. we do not shoot with locators", as grandfather Shipunov used to say !? feel
    Although radar + RK in lousy conditions do not work in the best way, which you are well aware of (from your own life experience).
    Depending on the output power of the transmitter and the sensitivity on the dedicated band of the receiver and a couple of purely radio-physical parameters of the disturbed atmosphere at different heights and its temperatures, with density ... if it is on the fingers, so as not to strain the local audience !!!
    PS How are your family and friends? You seem to have been ill? Is everything all right?

    I am currently working on my work, now I have finished a weekly report on my tasks and sent it to a new customer by mail, a remote location in different time zones, it’s not in the office to sit and polish a comfortable and soft chair ...
    And relatives, the spouse at school and in her clinic disappears, now she will wash off to university until evening, the mother-in-law barely walks after the coronavirus, the wife's younger sister is still sick and studies in her infirmary room, while everyone is alive and there is no one to order a wooden mac. .. laughing



    Mother-in-law of health and drink cardiomagnum. It really helps. After the crown, my wife gave herself some painful injections, 20 pieces. It also helped, but you have to put them right away, then it's useless. you can send your mother-in-law to a course of leeches ...
    Interestingly, we have electronic warfare systems that can accompany the troops, otherwise pure air defense is not enough to combat drones or patrolling ammunition.
  15. +3
    18 October 2021 14: 59
    In pair it needs 57mm Derivation on the wheel chassis.
  16. 0
    4 November 2021 08: 49
    Many here write that they say the Pine has a small range and height, that is, 10 km and 5, respectively, and hint at the scrap this sucks. People are generally narrow-minded. SAM Sosna is the smallest and closest circle of defense .. cheap and high mobility. It is necessary ... as an addition to the multilevel air defense.
  17. 0
    15 November 2021 12: 49
    If buoyancy is lost with the installation of the SAM module on the armored personnel carrier chassis, then why use it? KAMAZ has a ready-made, more protected and armored chassis 63969.
  18. 0
    25 November 2021 16: 16
    As with artillery, I expect to see new air defense systems installed on new ground-based platforms (Armata, Kurganets, Boomerang, BMD-4 (M) and DT-BTR). Developments for BMP-3 and BTR-80/82/87 are in order and I expect them to be successful for export.

    (Automatically translated from English. Below is the original commentary in English)

    Like in the case of the artillery, I expect to see the new air defense systems mounted in the new land platforms (Armata, Kurganets, Bumerang, BMD-4 (M), and DT-BTR). The developments on the BMP-3 and BTR-80/82/87 are fine, and I expect them to succeed for export.
  19. 0
    25 November 2021 19: 47
    As with multiple launch rocket systems, artillery, anti-tank weapons and engineering vehicles, I expect to see new air defense systems installed on new ground-based platforms (Armata, Kurganets, Boomerang, BMD-4 (M) and DT-BTR). Developments for BMP-3 and BTR-80/82/87 are in order and I expect them to be successful for export.

    (Automatically translated from English. Below is the original commentary in English)

    Like in the case of the Multiple Rockett Launcher Systems, artillery, tank-antitank armament and engineering vehicles, I expect to see the new air defense systems mounted in the new land platforms (Armata, Kurganets, Bumerang, BMD-4 (M), and DT-BTR). The developments on the BMP-3 and BTR-80/82/87 are fine, and I expect them to succeed for export.
  20. -1
    3 December 2021 20: 31
    Pine was born to kill UAVs, including small ones.
  21. 0
    6 December 2021 16: 05
    If it does not have an ATGM complex against ground vehicles, then it is inferior to the American SHORAD.

    Like tag.