American armored vehicle

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American armored vehicle
The first version of the American-style armored combat tractor. Attention is drawn to wheels with pneumatics, which were completely unsuitable for a combat vehicle.

When you go out to war against your enemy and see horses and chariots, and more people than yours, then do not fear them, for the Lord is with you ...
Deuteronomy 20:1

The original armored vehicles of the Second World War. After the articles about the Odessa tank "NI" were published, several VO readers expressed a wish that the topic of "combat tractors" be continued. But ... it's not so easy to find about such tanks-surrogates interesting stuff. But, nevertheless, we managed to find something, and today we will tell you about one such "combat tractor". And the most interesting thing is that it appeared not in the USSR, and not in England, where a wide variety of "self-made" combat vehicles were created on the eve of the landing of German troops, but, in general, prosperous USA. That is, far from the land line of contact of the Allied forces with the German troops ... There is nothing special, however, in this vehicle there is nothing. However, she is kind of "wild, but cute." And most importantly, this tank-tractor was not tracked, but moved on pneumatic wheels. What was his manufacturer hoping for, offering the military a chassis so vulnerable to bullets and shrapnel, but, apparently, he still hoped for something. But the Lord God was clearly not on his side, but on the side of the American military, who in the end refused to accept him for service!

And it so happened that shortly before the United States entered the Second World War, an American manufacturer of agricultural machinery and, in particular, wheeled tractors, and, of course, an undoubted patriot of his country - a certain John Deere, thought about the fact that a sufficient number of tanks for the war the American army does not yet have it. And ... he offered his services to the military as a manufacturer of armored vehicles. The idea was simple - it couldn't be easier: to create a combat vehicle, covered with armor, on the basis of the tractor it produced, which could then be produced in large quantities and with the most minimal cost of financial resources and materials. At the same time, Deer came to the remarkable conclusion that just cheap and small agricultural tractors, and, of course, it was his production, were perfect for this purpose. He set three tasks for his designers: first - to create a combat tank-tractor, second - to provide for the use of this tractor as a tractor-transporter and also in the version of a training vehicle, so that there was something to teach tank driver mechanics.




In this version, both machine guns are installed in the onboard sponsons in such a way that they only look forward. But the designers left the wheels without any armor cover, which, of course, was very bad. But putting armored casings on them would be even worse, since this would further increase the weight of the car and reduce its traction characteristics. Of course, if the drive wheels on this "tank" were from the "Fordzon", that is, they were metal and with developed lugs, then there would be no need to arm them. But such wheels are extra weight, and it was not small anyway. And besides, the Dir plant simply did not produce such wheels and therefore could not use them!

Most likely, it was proposed to use a Model G or Model H tractor, equipped with a two-cylinder gasoline engine with a working volume of 321 cc, for revision and booking. Both the driver's seat and his engine were completely covered with armor plates, with a thickness of 4 to 9,5 mm. Since there was simply nowhere to put a turret on this tractor, the newly-made "tank" had two machine-gun sponsons on both sides, which housed a machine gunner and one 7,62-mm Colt Browning machine gun. Interestingly, according to the initial idea of ​​the designers, the left sponson of the tank was to be turned back, and the right one - forward. In this way, the designer of the machine tried to compensate for the lack of circular fire on it. The tractor had a dry weight of 5500 pounds (2495 kg), but armor plates added 3500 pounds (1588 kg). In general, it was not that much. But here it is necessary to take into account the not too high engine power of this ersatz tank, and its purely tractor chassis.


An improved version of the Armored Model A Tractor looked like this ...

The built vehicle received the designation Armored Model A Tractor and was presented to the military in early 1941. But as a combat vehicle, this surrogate did not make an impression on them, although - yes, both of its other functions - a tractor and a training vehicle, they considered quite feasible and even acceptable.


This is what the driver's seat looked like inside the wheelhouse of this ersatz tank.

The vehicle was tested at the Aberdeen Tank Range. They began on January 10 and lasted until the beginning of February 1941. The result was an official act prepared by the military commission, the content of which was, however, very far from encouraging and, of course, Deere was not at all happy. The simplicity of the design of the machine was undoubtedly noted, but the tractor itself did not meet the requirements of the military in terms of cost / efficiency. The developer promised to produce up to 100 of these vehicles per day, but without taking into account the work on their armor and the installation of weapons. In addition, the very first tests of the armored vehicle on the ground showed its completely unsatisfactory passability. Thus, he could still apply for the role of a tractor and ammunition transporter, but as a combat vehicle it had no value. Its poor maneuverability and low speed characteristics were also noted, which were especially pronounced when driving just over rough terrain.

The front wheels on it were double, and, as it turned out, such a scheme did not provide the armored tractor with either proper maneuverability or good controllability, and the car itself often got stuck in mud and sand. The extremely low specific power of the engine also "contributed" to all this - suffice it to say that it was not higher than 7 liters. with. per ton of weight.


The machine gunner's seat inside the sponson was downright Spartan

Among the shortcomings, the military noted a very poor view, both from the driver's seat, who could not see the road directly in front of him and along the sides, and from machine-gun sponsons. They also criticized the car's rigid suspension, which caused the crew to experience severe discomfort when driving it over rough terrain. Firing tests only added to the shortcomings. It turned out that the shooters in the onboard sponsons are also very cramped. Inside, there was clearly not enough room to accommodate even one person with the very minimum of ammunition. There were cases when machine gunners in the literal sense of the word were bombarded with hot casings. In addition, due to the not very good location of the machine guns, it was possible to shoot through the front wheels. Well, the review from sponsors, as already noted, was also recognized by the military as completely insufficient.

However, according to the military, the replacement of the "proprietary" front axle with a conventional one (with two single wheels) made it possible to operate this vehicle normally as a tractor or as an improvised light tank. As for the cost, the tractor itself was estimated at $ 2000. But since each sheet of armor had to be bought separately at a price of $ 1 for each pound of weight, the final price of the Deer armored vehicle could already be from $ 6500 to $ 8000, depending on the purpose and the presence of weapons on it.

These engineers from "John Deere Company" accepted the comments and based them on the revision of the project. A conventional front axle was installed on the tractor, and the armored body was redesigned. At the same time, the driver's seat was slightly raised to improve visibility, and the engine hood received a slightly more rational shape.

In this form, the modified Armored Model A Tractor again went for testing in the spring of 1941, but the army was unambiguously inclined to the opinion that it could be used only for training or as a light tank of the "second line".

In April, the following variant was also tested: "prime mover" (transporter) - in fact, the same tractor, but without machine-gun armament and sponsors. However, by that time the opinion prevailed in the army that conventional tanks and armored vehicles would cope with the assigned tasks more efficiently than such purely civilian tractors. Therefore, the army team refused from J. Deere's offer, and all the tractors he built were scrapped.


Both "tanks" by J. Deere. Well, in his own way, he, too, tried as best he could, trying to bring the day of victory closer ...

The performance characteristics of the Armored Model A Tractor armored vehicle mod. 1941:

Combat weight: 4309 kg;
Crew: 3 people, a driver and two gunners;
Overall dimensions, mm: length - 2000, width - 1100, height - 1200;
Armament: 2x7,62 mm Colt Browning machine gun;
Reservation, mm: hull forehead, hull side, hull feed - 9,5; roof, bottom - 4;
Engine: "Deer", gasoline, liquid-cooled, 60 hp. with.;
Transmission: mechanical type with manual gearbox (6 + 1);
Chassis: wheel arrangement 3x1 or 4x2, front wheels are steered, rear wheels are driven, pneumatic tires, suspension from leaf springs;
Highway speed, km / h: 21.

Such a somewhat unusual Yankee armored tank-tractor turned out. It is clear that for a country like the United States, a country with a well-developed automotive industry, this kind of cars were unacceptable in principle. And no initial shortage of tanks, and it really existed, since the United States entered the war with only 330 tanks of all types, could not force the American military to launch a large-scale production of such armored freaks! They did not have to fear the invasion of German tanks, and, sitting overseas under the protection of their naval fleet, they could very well wait until the engineers create real tanks for them, and the American factories and "Rosie's riveters" will release them!
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  1. +6
    26 July 2021 04: 26
    When you go out to war against your enemy and see horses and chariots, and more people than yours, then do not fear them, for the Lord is with you ...
    Deuteronomy 20:1

    Asian version: "Forward, warriors of Allah! Allah is with us !!! .... and a couple of machine guns, as a last resort." wink
    Article + !!!
    1. +19
      26 July 2021 05: 08
      It is possible without machine guns! wink
      1. +12
        26 July 2021 05: 17
        A Muslim is walking near Kabul, and his wife is in front of him. A Soviet armored personnel carrier is on the way. The commander slows him down, approaches the Muslim and asks: "Dear, the Koran says that a woman should be behind a man - why do you let her go in front?" The Muslim replied: "When Muhammad wrote the Koran, then there were no mines! ... Go, dear, go!"
        From Afghan humor. smile And yours is on the spite of the day Yes
      2. +10
        26 July 2021 05: 21
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        without machine guns

        This Yankee walked well on the offenders!
        1. +7
          26 July 2021 07: 18
          Hi Vladimir! hi
          Is that the guy who destroyed half the city? I read about him at Cruise's.
          1. +7
            26 July 2021 07: 19
            Hello Kostya! hi Yes, it's him, they brought the man ...
          2. +10
            26 July 2021 09: 37
            Is that the guy who destroyed half the city? I read about him at Cruise's.

            Marvin Himeyer. Long and scrupulously pondering revenge ... In the end, yes, he smashed half the city.
  2. +10
    26 July 2021 04: 35
    Hello everyone and good morning!
    Finally, Vyacheslav appeared, otherwise we will get bored. smile
    I was greatly amused by the desire of business people to somehow make money on a military order, a funny typewriter was invented at the Deer company,
    and it is clear that the army under any guise could not accept it, it is even funnier than our "Fear", it was still on the tracks, and the DShK weapon is more serious.
    1. +7
      26 July 2021 04: 58
      John Deere (February 7, 1804 - May 17, 1886) - American blacksmith and industrialist, inventor of the steel plow, founder of Deere & Company, the largest agricultural design firm in the world.

      Interestingly, they did not decide to make their own tank out of this unit?
      1. +9
        26 July 2021 05: 22
        But if Stalin had not stopped Tukhachevsky's idea in the bud, then our army would have ridden on such "tanks", fortunately this did not happen.



        Comrade Tukhachevsky’s “plan” is the result of a fashionable fascination with the “left” phrase, the result of a passion for paper, clerical maximalism. Therefore, the analysis has been replaced in it by the “game in tsifiri”, and the Marxist perspective of the growth of the Red Army is replaced by fantasy. To “implement” such a “plan” means to ruin both the country's economy and the army.
        I. Stalin.
        Resolution on the plan of Tukhachevsky
        1. +6
          26 July 2021 05: 55
          These tractor games were attempts to create a mobilization tank. Cheap and cheerful. It did not grow together. But when they sang "Get up, the country is huge" and KhPZ "came up with" KhTZ-16. Instead of being quickly put on a conveyor belt, they began to "torture and test" the armored vehicle. Because of this, they were made little and they did not play a role.
        2. +3
          26 July 2021 07: 52
          Kostya, hello, actually Tukhachevsky was a "peculiar" comrade: he fought successfully against a half of the regular army. At Warsaw he had an advantage in strength, but he could not cope with the regular army.
          1. +1
            26 July 2021 08: 17
            ... I could not cope with the regular army.

            And in the end he suffered. bully
            1. +2
              26 July 2021 13: 47
              He himself suffered and pulled the family with him.
              He was probably an adventurer by nature.
      2. +6
        26 July 2021 06: 22
        It is from him!
        1. +5
          26 July 2021 07: 58
          I found a couple more funny copies. smile



          Holt even fitted a Shosha machine gun on the hood. laughing
      3. +6
        26 July 2021 08: 37
        inventor of the steel plow

        The plow was made of wood, but the ploughshare was made of steel, made of a saw from a sawmill. Something like this.
        1. +4
          26 July 2021 08: 59
          However, things went well. good

          For comparison.
    2. +6
      26 July 2021 05: 21
      The American military - infantry and cavalry for about 20 years fought to obtain a sane model of the tank.
      And they received from the engineers continuous "charabani". The cavalrymen were generally not supposed to be tanks, but armored vehicles!
      Pasholok has many articles in Zen about the "birth pangs" of American tanks.
      1. +6
        26 July 2021 05: 35
        Hi Aleksey! hi
        But this creation of the gloomy Teutonic genius, the minesweeper Alkett Räumer S, is now in Kubinka. Also, damn it, "tractor".

        "Handsome" you will not say anything. laughing
        1. +3
          26 July 2021 05: 50
          The Germans did not grow together with mine sweepers for tanks. So the Reichsmarks were cut. We got a similar "monster".
        2. +1
          26 July 2021 14: 16
          I heard about such a "minesweeper," but I had no idea what it looked like
    3. +5
      26 July 2021 06: 22
      Good morning, Constantine! "You don't have to grieve with our chieftain!" He returned from vacation and "went to work."
      1. +2
        26 July 2021 07: 13
        Good morning, Vyacheslav! smile
        Glad to meet you, glad to communicate, without you it was pretty boring here, for example, I missed the articles on weapons, so we are waiting, sir.
        How rested, then the people were worried that you could all get caught in the flood, but I see that it worked out. drinks
        PS Denyuzhka was thrown into the sea to return? wink
        1. +5
          26 July 2021 08: 50
          Quote: Sea Cat
          How rested, then the people were worried that you could all get caught in the flood, but I see that it worked out.
          PS Denyuzhka was thrown into the sea to return?

          We arrived the next day after a shower and where it was not the strongest. The sea was cleared in two days. But there was a pool ... The money was thrown into all the water bodies that can be, including the fountain. But I will talk about the trip in detail in the article, it's worth it.
          1. +4
            26 July 2021 08: 55
            That's fine, guess for the winter, we'll see and warm ourselves. smile
          2. +2
            26 July 2021 14: 26
            I propose the titles: "my travel adventures", "how" caliber "rested on the coast", and Astra will find the epigraph for you. She was going if she didn't change her mind.
            For women, "constancy" is still
            1. +2
              26 July 2021 15: 34
              No, Svyatoslav. The title of the article will be different: "Russia from the carriage window". This is more accurate. And the epigraph will be a song from the 1954 movie.
              1. +2
                26 July 2021 16: 43
                The title of the article will be different: "Russia from the carriage window"
                I propose to bring it a little closer to the classics.
                "Travel from Penza to Yalta". A look from the carriage window.
                1. +2
                  26 July 2021 17: 48
                  Then the epigraph and quote from the immortal classics:
                  I looked around me - my soul became wounded by the suffering of humanity

                  And the rest of the text is already known to everyone.
                  1. +1
                    26 July 2021 22: 46
                    Let Vyacheslav. be sure to write what is the fashion in Yalta today and what they wear on the beach Yes And photos, more photos laughing
                    1. +2
                      26 July 2021 22: 49
                      And photos, more photos

                      Pornography is prohibited by the laws of the site. request drinks
                      1. +1
                        26 July 2021 22: 56
                        And what, did Vyacheslav have a rest on nudist beaches? feel
                        Then all the more - faster to print fellow
                        and an epigraph from "La Chanson de Roland":
                        And the king ordered everyone to dismount and take off their armor before the battle. Marsilius and Ganelon could not bear such an insult for themselves and fled from shame to Zaragoza. (with)
                        laughing
                      2. +1
                        26 July 2021 23: 15
                        ... did Vyacheslav rest on nudist beaches?

                        You yourself know that on common beaches, friends, when they have something to show, do not bother too much and know how to show everything. laughing

                        Everything is in the qualification, the police are resting (and do not take their eyes off). laughing
                      3. +2
                        26 July 2021 23: 22
                        Everything is in the qualification

                        It is clear that this is not erotica, but ordinary TB. Silicone, not only looks beautiful, but also helps to stay on the water Yes
                      4. +1
                        26 July 2021 23: 31
                        Silicone as a floating craft? Wow, and in the navy, fools with life jackets toil. laughing
                      5. +1
                        26 July 2021 23: 42
                        God bless them with watercraft.
                        You and I, Kostya, get a universal epigraph and carte blanche for any articles by V.O. invented. Now with him, Vyacheslav can safely write articles on any topic, without fear of anything: smile
                        In Penza - everything is in the qualification !!!

                      6. 0
                        27 July 2021 00: 54
                        Exactly, and from Vyacheslav for the thought is due. smile drinks
                      7. 0
                        27 July 2021 17: 45
                        The main thing is "don't swim for the buoys" ...
                      8. 0
                        27 July 2021 18: 33
                        Are the buoys also silicone? How not to be confused. laughing
              2. +1
                26 July 2021 18: 08
                Q. Oh, how we are trying to help you. As a "fee" for co-authorship - an interesting article
                1. 0
                  26 July 2021 21: 21
                  I really appreciate the creative participation of VO readers and am grateful to everyone for it. And it helps, you know, even if not always the way the authors of these or those tips themselves think. For example, your comment became the main one for several articles at once!
                  1. -1
                    27 July 2021 16: 01
                    Wow. Am I the mastermind of creativity ?!
                    1. 0
                      27 July 2021 19: 33
                      In this particular case, you suggested a new and interesting direction ...
    4. +3
      26 July 2021 07: 14
      Good morning!
      It's amazing how Vyacheslav Olegovich managed to develop the article from the usually mentioned line in publications. Like: "... attempts to arm tractors were made in the North American states of America ..."
      About ours and, even, English - written - rewritten.
      1. +5
        26 July 2021 07: 16
        You can't drink talent. smile
        Hi, Igor! drinks
        1. +4
          26 July 2021 07: 35
          Yes ... No matter how they criticized me later, I take off my hat before America managed to quickly get on the war footing. Moreover, their "restrictions" of civilians did not go in any way with ours. And, practically, instantly start producing tanks at car factories, military aircraft instead of civilian ones, and much more ...
          1. +8
            26 July 2021 07: 53
            What are the tanks, what are the planes ... they began to churn out aircraft carriers like plates, I mean escort and convoy ones. This is really awesome! Only 45 escort escorts of the Bogue type were built, and there were also Long Island and Avenger types, and from June 1941 to April 1945, the United States also released 78 escort aircraft carriers. Wherever Japan could compete with them. laughing
            1. +4
              26 July 2021 10: 37
              Quote: Sea Cat
              Only 45 escort escorts of the "Bogue" type were built

              11 for USN and 34 for RN. For two years.
              If we talk about "churning out aircraft carriers like plates," then it is better to recall Henry Kaiser's "Casablanca" - 50 AVE per year. And at what pace the Kaiser's shipyards were building Liberty ...
          2. +5
            26 July 2021 10: 27
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            That's yes ... No matter how they criticized me later, I take off my hat before America managed to quickly get on the war footing.

            Fast - that's about three years. It all started with orders for our own army (which they began to increase according to the FDR plan), then foreign orders went (France, Britain).
            By the way, the shipbuilding industry began to be raised even earlier - under the Merchant Marine Act 1936 program, according to which, in order to increase the competitiveness of American companies, the state had to build new ships for them and lease them + provide subsidies to builders and operators of new ships (the market will regulate everything itself, yes. .. smile ). To obtain these ships, several conditions had to be met: the company had to be registered in the United States, the ships had to fly the American flag, the crew had to be 90% American, in case of war the ships could be mobilized.
            1. 0
              26 July 2021 21: 57
              In general, the American ship industry developed back in the years of the First World War, and not before WWII, more than a hundred steamers were riveted in 17-18, and four tube destroyers were also for a hundred well, and different schooners, hunters and boats. The aircraft industry began to be subsidized by the state since 35, since the Great Depression would have buried it by the beginning of the war.
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  3. +2
    26 July 2021 05: 41
    a manufacturer of agricultural machinery and, in particular, wheeled tractors, and, of course, the undoubted patriot of his country - a certain John Deere, thought that the American army still does not have a sufficient number of tanks for a war.

    John Deere's company for the production of tractors and agricultural machinery was already quite well-known at that time. Enterprising, what's the difference for a tractor, a cart with potatoes, bags of cotton to carry or boxes of cartridges / shells.
    wink Probably since that time the John Deere agricultural machinery has a corporate color - green?
    With tanks, the tactics of using light tanks, the development of medium tanks and adoption in the United States, things were not very active.

    The military are not peasants; wheeled tractors have no suspension and spring elements as such.
    The rear axle half-shafts are removed from the housing in which the gearbox, RK, PTO, brake system are located. The front axle, if plugged in, is spring loaded on the final drives. There is no such need for him ...
    1. +1
      26 July 2021 19: 01
      of those times, did John Deere agricultural machinery have a corporate color - green?
      This tradition began with the Waterloo Gasoline Engine Company, which painted its Waterloo Boy tractors green and was bought out by Deere & Co in 1918.
  4. +1
    26 July 2021 05: 57
    Everything new is well forgotten old
    Less than a century has passed laughing
  5. +7
    26 July 2021 07: 26
    What a funny armored car ...
    Thousands of simple wheeled tractors worked hard at the airfields of the Second World War.
    True, Americans are rich guys and could afford specially built wheeled tractors, for example, like these from the Clark Equipment Company:

  6. +2
    26 July 2021 07: 42
    Q. Oh, unexpected stuff. Thought, again ceremonial "pieces of iron" from Sir Wallace.
    A tractor for use in a combat situation, which means a soft chair and a jacuzzi are not appropriate there
    1. +5
      26 July 2021 07: 55
      You are not right about the soft chair, they didn’t roll you in the tank over the intersection. laughing
      1. +8
        26 July 2021 08: 01
        It was at such a moment that the first (and only) time I was so attached to the triplex that really "stars" swam before my eyes.
        1. +9
          26 July 2021 08: 21
          Yes, tanks do not forgive a frivolous attitude, they also "applied". laughing
          1. +3
            26 July 2021 09: 21
            I also managed to catch two "dolphins" in one day. True, the second one was on T - 62. On which we were transplanted for introductory purposes. I see a "lake", but I didn't have time to react correctly - I just "pecked" at the beginning. Then, to the laughter of colleagues, he washed the place ...
            1. +5
              26 July 2021 09: 56
              With us, the driver drove into a training machine, and it would be good to enter the lake, otherwise into the deepest, huge puddle of liquid mud, and the hatch was open, oh, and he swore, the car was washed, however, young people, and the overalls were no longer subject to washing. laughing
              1. +1
                26 July 2021 22: 06
                As if we also called MTLB and MTLB tractors, and we also had a case of a night march across the range on a tank derectress to the MTLB mechanic, but the MTLB dived so the mechanic was washing a lump of dirt in a basin and not a weapon.
          2. +2
            26 July 2021 22: 00
            In relation to your own head in moving armored vehicles, you can immediately see who is experienced and who is for the first time.
            1. +2
              26 July 2021 22: 47
              Once upon a time is always the first time. laughing Practice is expensive. smile
    2. +2
      26 July 2021 08: 53
      Svyatoslav! In the article where you wrote in the commentary about the parade glands, there was NOT AT ALL.
      1. 0
        26 July 2021 14: 39
        I would not say that those armor was used in battle
        1. +3
          26 July 2021 15: 29
          They are just not ceremonial. That's all!
  7. +4
    26 July 2021 08: 19
    Specific power 7l. with. per ton? With a power of 60, and a weight of 4300? Did you try to divide? And the working volume, probably, in cubic inches should be written.
    1. +1
      26 July 2021 08: 54
      Quote: Overheating
      Specific power 7l. with. per ton? With a power of 60, and a weight of 4300? Did you try to divide? And the working volume, probably, in cubic inches should be written.

      No, I haven't tried it. Took all this from an American magazine ... If I check and double-check everything, what will then be left to comment on our knowledgeable readers?
      1. 0
        27 July 2021 22: 06
        [quote = kalibr] [quote = Overheating] Specific power 7l. with. per ton? With a power of 60, and a weight of 4300? Did you try to divide? And the working volume, probably, should be written in cubic inches. [/ Quote]
        No, I haven't tried it. I took it all from an American magazine ... If I check and double-check everything, what will then be left for our knowledgeable readers to comment on? [/ Quote]
        Why try? The purpose of the current articles is not information, but a reaction (comments and likes), which Oleg Vyacheslavovich achieved. Although the article is posted in the technical section, there are a lot of absurdities.
        I cannot imagine on a tractor weighing 2 kg an engine with a volume of 495 cm 321 (less than that of an IZH motorcycle) and a power of 3 horses. All the same, maybe cubic inches? Then it will turn out to be 60 cm5, which is quite realistic. I am glad that the weight of 261 pounds has been converted into kilograms.
        With technical characteristics [quote] Overall dimensions, mm: length - 2000, width - 1100, height - 1200; / quote] generally atas.
        Take, for example, the technique of the closest dimensions, for example, the CFMOTO CFORCE 450L EPS ATV.
        Dimensions - Length / Width / Height 2300 x 1100 x 1350 mm
        It turns out that the quadric is longer and taller than our armored vehicle (which has a closed driver's cabin and closed armored capsules on the sides? And in width? The quad has the same width with an armored vehicle that has sponsons on the sides of the engine for shooters? For what dwarfs is this armored car intended? from American magazines? I have some questions, maybe you need to respect your readers?
  8. +7
    26 July 2021 08: 57
    Of course, if the drive wheels on this "tank" were from the "Fordzon", that is, they were metal and with developed lugs, then there would be no need to arm them. But such wheels are extra weight, and it was not small anyway. And besides, the Dir plant simply did not produce such wheels and therefore could not use them!

    Produced, Oleg Vyacheslavovich, John Deere steel wheels. In those years, both Deer and Ford had all tractors with such wheels.

    This is the first John Deere tractor. 1917 year.
    But by the beginning of World War II, Fordzones were already on pneumatic tires.

    Tractor Fordson Major.
  9. +2
    26 July 2021 10: 00
    In 1992, in Tajikistan, both opposing sides often used bulldozers and KAMAZ dump trucks, welded with steel sheets with cut-through inspection slots and loopholes.
    1. 0
      26 July 2021 14: 36
      My friends told me about the bprone bulldozer
  10. 0
    26 July 2021 14: 33
    "all the tractors he built were scrapped", and in the photographs - modern "replicas"?
    1. +1
      26 July 2021 15: 31
      I don’t know, Svyatoslav. I didn’t delve into such subtleties and I didn’t take them off. I would be glad to satisfy your interest, but I cannot.
  11. 0
    26 July 2021 16: 20
    Odessa NI-1, made in a besieged city, looks like a masterpiece of design thought in comparison with such squalor.