American air defense forces, aviation reconnaissance and control systems deployed in Japan

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In the comments to the article on modern Japanese fighters, some readers expressed the opinion that the multiple superiority of the Air and Naval Self-Defense Forces of Japan over our Far Eastern 11th Air Force and Air Defense Army and the Red Banner Pacific fleet does not matter, and in the event of an armed conflict, we will destroy the enemy with nuclear weapons.

In fairness, it should be said that our country really possesses the world's most powerful tactical nuclear weapons, and this is in many ways a sobering factor for any aggressor. However, one must understand that for a number of reasons, using tactical missiles, aviation Free-fall bombs and torpedoes, equipped with "special" warheads, the Russian armed forces can really only in neutral waters or on their own territory to repel Japanese aggression.



Anyone who declares that we will easily burn all Japanese combat aircraft at home airfields in the flames of nuclear explosions, and destroy the ships of the Naval Self-Defense Forces along with the infrastructure of naval bases and, in general, simply with the help of "Caliber" and "Iskander", and also other "Poseidons" with "Zircons" we will turn the Japanese islands into a lifeless radioactive desert or even send them to the seabed, forgetting that between Japan and the United States for 60 years there has been a "Treaty on mutual cooperation and security guarantees."

Under this treaty, the United States is obliged to cooperate with the Japan Self-Defense Forces in maritime safety, assist in ballistic missile defense, assist in securing air borders, coordinate domestic air traffic, secure communications, and participate in disaster relief. As part of this agreement, many American military bases have been deployed in Japan, on which airplanes, helicopters, ships, radar stations, air defense missile systems, marines' barracks, numerous warehouses and points of material and technical supply are deployed on a permanent basis, communication centers and reconnaissance centers operate.

American air defense forces, aviation reconnaissance and control systems deployed in Japan
Layout of large American military bases in Japan

With a high degree of probability, the Americans will not directly get involved in an armed conflict with Russia and, most likely, will not directly provide armed support to the Japanese in offensive actions, if they suddenly decide to use military force to reclaim the "northern territories". But it is worth remembering that there are about 90 American military personnel, civilian specialists and their families in the Japanese Islands, as well as 000 large bases and more than 8 American defense facilities, and our attack on Japan will inevitably affect the military and US citizens. Given that an attack on American military bases will certainly be viewed as an act of war, the use of Russian nuclear weapons across Japan will put the world on the brink of nuclear disaster.

Air Defense Forces of the 5th Air Army, US Air Force


The main potential enemy of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Far East is considered the US Air Force Command in the Pacific Air Force, with its headquarters at Hickam airbase (Oahu, Hawaii). Subordinate to the Pacific Command are the 5th (Japan), 7th (Republic of Korea), 11th (Alaska) and 13th (Hawaii) air armies.

Currently, the headquarters of the US armed forces in Japan is located at Yokota Air Force Base in the vicinity of Tokyo, which is shared by the US and Japanese military. The command of the American 5th Air Army, which is the air component of the American military contingent, is also stationed at the Japanese Yokota airbase. At the same base, there is the central command post of the Air Self-Defense Forces, the headquarters of the Air Defense Command of the Self-Defense Forces and key elements of the Japanese JADGE air defense system.

The 5th Air Army, stationed on the Japanese islands, includes: the 35th Fighter Wing (Misawa Airbase) and the 18th Task Force (Kadena Airbase). These two aviation divisions have over 130 aircraft and helicopters.


Satellite image of Google Earth: F-16C / D fighters at Misawa airbase

The Misawa Air Base, located in the northern part of Honshu Island, is divided by the 35th Fighter Wing of the United States Air Force and the 3rd Tactical Fighter Squadron of the Japanese Air Defense Forces (F-2A / B and F-35A Lightning II fighters, as well as the T-4 trainer) ... It is reported that close cooperation has been established between the Japanese and American fighters. At the same time, the Americans are not on constant duty to ensure the inviolability of the airspace of Japan, do not rise to meet the violating aircraft, and basically make training flights. But, in the event of an aggravation of the situation, the US Air Force, together with its allies, must protect Japanese targets from air strikes.

The 13th and 14th Squadrons of the 35th Fighter Wing have a total of 48 single-seat F-16CJs and two-seat F-16DJ fighters of the Block 50P modification.


F-16CJ / DJ fighters of the 14th Fighter Squadron Fighting Samurai

These aircraft were originally intended to combat enemy radar and air defense systems and carry AGM-88 HARM and AGM-158 JASSM guided missiles. However, in addition to hitting ground and surface targets, the pilots of the Fighting Falcons, based in Japan, actively train in close combat and practice intercepting air targets against which they can use the AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 air-to-air missiles. AMRAAM.

A significant proportion of the pilots of the 35th Fighter Wing have combat experience. In the past, the 13th and 14th squadrons were transferred to other airbases and participated in the provision of no-fly zones in Iraq and in anti-terrorist operations in the Middle East.

The largest American military facility located in Japan is the Kadena airbase, on about. Okinawa. The airbase has two asphalt-concrete runways, each 3688 meters long, on which aircraft of all types can land. It is the largest and most actively used US Air Force base in East Asia. The number of American military personnel, their families and civilian specialists working here is estimated at approximately 20000.

Kadena Air Base, where the main components of Task Force 18 are deployed, is home to US Air Force 18 Wing, Special Operations Group 353, 82nd and 390 Reconnaissance Squadrons, 1st Battalion, 1st Artillery Regiment Air defense and many auxiliary units. Frequent guests at the airbase are the 5th generation F-22A Raptor fighters stationed on a permanent basis in Hawaii. Currently, about 80 aircraft and helicopters are permanently located at the Kadena airbase, but if necessary, taking into account the territory, available shelters, parking areas and ready infrastructure, the airbase is able to receive more than 200 aircraft without additional preparation.

The 18th wing is considered the base unit, and today it is the largest and most diverse wing of the United States Air Force in terms of aircraft types. The basis of its combat potential is the 44th and 67th fighter squadrons, equipped with F-15C / D heavy fighters (36 units in total).

Currently, the American and Japanese "Eagles" (9th Air Wing of the Southwest Air Defense Command), stationed at the nearby Naha airbase, provide air defense for Japan from the south.


Satellite image of Google Earth: F-15C / D fighters at Kadena airbase

During the development of the strengthening of American forces in the region, aviation units not assigned to the 18th air wing were repeatedly transferred to the Kadena airbase. Satellite images show that in the past, F / A-18C / D, F-22A and F-35A fighters were repeatedly located at the largest American airbase in Japan.


Satellite image of Google Earth: F-35A fighters at Kadena airbase

F-2017A fighters can be seen in the pictures taken in 2018-35 at the airbase parking lots. According to information published in American sources, these aircraft belong to the 4th Flying Fuujins Fighter Squadron, which is part of the 388th Tactical Wing.

Reconnaissance and airspace control facilities available in Okinawa


The airspace on the approaches to Okinawa is controlled by a Japanese stationary radar post on Mount Yaedake (western part of Okinawa), a Japanese stationary radar post on Okinawa. Okinoerabu, a Japanese radar post on the island. Miyakojima and the American AN / TPS-77 mobile radar, deployed in the northern part of the Kadena airbase. Air traffic control in the near zone (up to 56 km) is carried out according to the AN / MPN-25 radar data.

The 961st control and air control squadron is armed with E-3В / С Sentry AWACS aircraft (four units), upgraded to the Block 40/45 (E-3G) level. In reality, three aircraft can carry out patrolling. One E-3G is usually undergoing repair and maintenance.


Aircraft AWACS E-3 at Kadena airbase

American AWACS aircraft most often patrol along the Chinese coast, from Taiwan to the Korean island of Jeju. There are cases when flying radar pickets, taking off from the Kadena airbase, without entering the airspace of neighboring countries, made non-stop flights along the coast of the PRC, North Korea and Russia. The fuel supply on board the E-3G aircraft allows you to stay in the air without refueling for 10 hours. A single AWACS aircraft patrolling at an altitude of 9000 meters can control an area of ​​300 km². The detection range of a low-altitude target with an RCS of 000m² against the background of the earth in the absence of interference is 1 km. Patrolling is usually carried out at an altitude of 400-8500 meters at a speed of 10000 km / h.

In addition to detecting air targets, pointing fighters at them and issuing target designation to ship and ground air defense systems, modernized aircraft of the AWACS system have electronic reconnaissance equipment that provides frequency measurement, amplitude direction finding and parametric recognition of the type of intercepted radiation source.

According to data published in open sources, the RTR onboard station is capable of identifying more than 500 types of ground, ship and aircraft radars. The station, operating in the frequency range 2-18 GHz, provides 360 ° circular scanning and direction finding of radio emission sources with an error of no more than 3 ° at a distance of 250 km. Its performance is approximately 100 recognition of radiation sources in 10 s. The maximum operating range of the RTR station of the E-3G aircraft by powerful signal sources exceeds 500 km.


Satellite image of Google Earth: AWACS aircraft E-3G Sentry at Kadena airbase

Thus, American AWACS aircraft deployed at Kadena airbase can not only be used to detect sea and air targets and direct combat aircraft to them, but are also a fairly effective means of collecting intelligence information.

Long-range reconnaissance is also carried out by aircraft of the 82nd reconnaissance squadron: RC-135V / W Rivet Joint, RC-135S Cobra Ball, RC-135U Combat Sent. The processing of information received by the crews of E-3G AWACS and RC-135 V / W / U / S reconnaissance aircraft is carried out by specialists of the 390th reconnaissance squadron (non-flying), which is directly subordinate to the US Air Force Intelligence and Surveillance Agency, and is also responsible for cryptographic protection communication channels.

There are 4 strategic scouts permanently at the Kadena airbase. All aircraft of the RC-135 family are built on the basis of the C-135 Stratolifter transport aircraft, which, in turn, has much in common with the passenger Boeing 707.


Satellite image of Google Earth: reconnaissance aircraft RC-135V / W, RC-135S and RC-135U at Kadena airbase

Currently, the most common US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft created using the C-135 Stratolifter airframe is the RC-135V / W Rivet Joint. The RC-135V long-range reconnaissance aircraft have been upgraded from the RC-135C Big Team configuration. RC-135W were built on the basis of transport C-135B. This is the only difference between the V and W variants, they both carry the same reconnaissance equipment. Reconnaissance RC-135V / W externally differ from C-135 Stratolifter transport aircraft and air tankers by numerous antennas and an elongated black nose cone.


Reconnaissance aircraft RC-135V / W Rivet Joint at Kadena airbase

The main purpose of RC-135V / W scouts is to intercept radio signals and direction finding of radio emission sources. The suite of equipment on board allows the crew to detect, identify and locate signals across the entire electromagnetic spectrum. The collected information can be transmitted in real time via satellite and radio channels to a wide range of consumers.

The RC-135S Cobra Ball aircraft is equipped with optoelectronic systems and telemetry interception equipment. It is primarily designed to monitor ballistic missile launches and warheads on the descending flight. Initially, these aircraft, taking off from the Kadena airbase, were intended to track the target field of the Kura training ground in Kamchatka. However, the RC-135S is also currently overseeing Chinese and North Korean missile tests.


RC-135S Cobra Ball

Aircraft of this modification are very easy to identify visually. To avoid glare that could "blind" the optoelectronic equipment, the top of the right wing and the inner parts of the nacelles of the right engines are painted black. On the starboard side of the RC-135S there are four enlarged windows designed for optoelectronic reconnaissance. During the upgrade to the Cobra Ball level, the aircraft that remained in service received an onboard multifunctional synthetic aperture radar, which provides tracking of the flight of ballistic targets in high cloud conditions.

Long-range reconnaissance aircraft RC-135U Combat Sent is designed to collect information about radars and anti-aircraft missile guidance stations and deployment locations. The data collected during reconnaissance flights are taken into account when planning air strikes and are used in the development of new or in the modernization of existing radar radiation receivers, electronic warfare equipment, decoys, anti-radar missiles and simulators.


RC-135U Combat Sent

Unlike the RC-135S and RC-135V / W, the RC-135U radio reconnaissance aircraft does not have a black-painted elongated nose. Instead, a characteristic "beard" of the antenna fairing is observed in the lower nose.

The characteristics of all RC-135s are about the same. The maximum takeoff weight of the RC-135V / W is 146200 kg. The maximum speed is 930 km / h. Cruising speed at an altitude of 9100 m - 853 km / h. The ceiling is 130000 m. The flight range without refueling is 5500 km. Maximum crew size: 2 pilots, 2 navigators, 14 reconnaissance operators, 4 electronic warfare operators and 4 flight engineers.

On board the RC-135 V / W / U / S reconnaissance aircraft there is a very sophisticated equipment for setting up active jamming, designed to counter air, sea and ground radars, suppress channels of combat control and guidance of anti-aircraft and air missiles, as well as a device for shooting heat traps and dipole reflectors.

Tanker aircraft supporting the operations of the US Air Force aircraft based in Japan


To support the actions of fighters, flying radar pickets and long-range reconnaissance aircraft at Kadena airbase, there are KC-135R / T Stratotanker tanker aircraft belonging to the 909th refueling squadron.


The KC-135R refueling aircraft from the 909th refueling squadron refueling the F / A-18E fighter

During the exercise, air tankers also practice refueling the F-16C / D of the 35th US Air Force Fighter Wing from the Misawa base, F / A-18C / D - the Marine Corps, F / A-18E / F - the aviation wing of the nuclear aircraft carrier "George Washington "and Japanese F-15Js from the Naha base. During the execution of refueling missions, the American KC-135R / T, taking off from the Kadena airbase, make intermediate landings at the Japanese Yokota airbase, Thai - Korat, Singapore - Changi and Australian - Darwin. In total, twelve air tankers are permanently stationed at the Kadena airbase.


Satellite image of Google Earth: KC-135R / T tanker aircraft at the Kadena air base

Although the KC-135R / T are not combat aircraft, their role in providing air defense for American bases located in Japan is very important. The ability to transfer aviation fuel on board fighters patrolling at a considerable distance from their airfields and AWACS radar aircraft on patrol significantly increases their time in the air and pushes back the lines of interception.

Initially, KC-135 tankers were intended to support the actions of bombers of the Strategic Air Command, but from the late 1960s they were adapted for refueling tactical and carrier-based fighters. The flight data of the KC-135R / T is the same with the RC-135V / W reconnaissance aircraft. A tanker aircraft with a maximum takeoff weight of 146 kg takes 284 kg of kerosene on board. The ferry range is 90718 km. When transporting 17700 kg of aviation fuel, the range is 68000 km. Crew: 2400 pilots, navigator and refueling equipment operator.

Management of units of the 5th Air Force of the United States Air Force and coordination with the Japanese Air Self-Defense Forces


An important link between the command of the 18th US Air Force Task Force, stationed on the island of Okinawa, the headquarters of the 5th US Air Force Air Force and the central command post of the Air Self-Defense Forces, located at Japan's Yokota Air Force Base, is the 623rd Operations and Communications Squadron.

In 2011, against the background of North Korean missile tests, the improvement of the control system of the American air defense / missile defense forces deployed in Japan began. As part of ensuring the functioning of the DVIDS system (English Spartan Shield, the art of air and missile - operations to control the fire of anti-aircraft weapons and air defense aviation), the staff of the 623 squadron was increased and its technical re-equipment.

In January 2019, the C2 equipment of the TORCC system was put into operation. The TORCC system (Theater Operationally Resilient Command and Control) is a data fusion mechanism that combines monitors for visualizing the current tactical situation, a command and control center, a virtual air defense system integrator, a complex and a unit for linking transmission and reception channels of information from other command posts, radar posts, AWACS aircraft, fighter-interceptors and anti-aircraft missile batteries.


Satellite image of Google Earth: communications center at the Japanese airbase Naha

The 623rd Squadron is tasked with maintaining stable communications and real-time data exchange with the 5th Air Force Command of the US Air Force and the Self-Defense Forces Air Defense Command Center. For this, a communications center is used, located on the territory of the Japanese airbase Naha.

American Patriot PAC-3 long-range air defense systems deployed in Japan


In February 2006, four Patriot PAC-3 SAM batteries of the 1st Battalion of the 1st Air Defense Artillery Regiment were transferred to Kadena airbase from Fort Bliss (Texas) to protect against North Korean ballistic missiles. Currently, two air defense systems are on constant combat duty in the vicinity of the American air base.


Satellite image of Google Earth: the position of the Patriot PAC-3 air defense system in the vicinity of the Kadena airbase

The batteries, deployed at Kadena base, are part of the 38th Air Defense Brigade, headquartered at Sagami Base, Kanagawa Prefecture (40 km south of Tokyo).


Airbases of the USMC in Japan


US Marine Corps Air Station Futenma is located seven kilometers south of Cadena Air Force Base. About 3000 marines, the 1st KMP Aviation Wing and a number of auxiliary units are stationed here. The runway 2740 m long and 45 m wide can accommodate all types of combat and transport aircraft, including the heaviest ones.


Satellite image of Google Earth: USMC Futenma air station, view from a height of 2300 m

Although only helicopters and tiltrotors and units of the 18th Marine Air Traffic Control Group are currently permanently stationed at Futenma Air Station, in the recent past, the AV-8B Harrier II and F / A-18C / D Hornet Marine aircraft landed here.

The main purpose of these combat aircraft is to provide air support during amphibious operations, as well as strike at sea and ground targets. But, in addition to these tasks, the US ILC aviation pilots are practicing close air combat and interception. In addition, the F-15C / D runway of the 44th and 67th Fighter Squadrons of the US Air Force is considered as a reserve runway for the Futenma airbase.


Preparing for the departure of the 15th Squadron F-44C fighter at the USMC Futenma air station

To control the airspace around the Futenma air station, the squadrons of the naval air traffic control group have AN / TPS-59 and AN / TPS-80 radars at their disposal. They are not on constant duty, they are turned on when an increased combat readiness is announced and during training. Air traffic control in normal conditions is carried out according to data broadcast from Japanese stationary radar posts and the AN / MPN-25 radar deployed at Kadena airbase.

The main force of the US KPM combat aircraft in Japan is located at Iwakuni Air Force Base in Yamaguchi Prefecture. This facility is used in conjunction with the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Forces, which operate US-2 flying boats, P-3C base patrol aircraft, UP-3D and EP-3C reconnaissance aircraft, and AW101 minesweeper helicopters.


F / A-18D Hornet fighter at Iwakuni airbase

As of 2020, there were about 5000 American military personnel and their families living in the vicinity of Iwakuni Air Base. Iwakuni is assigned to the 12th Marine Corps Aviation Group, which includes the 242nd Assault Naval Fighter Squadron, armed with the F / A-18C / D Hornet, and the 121st Fighter Assault Squadron, flying the F-35B Lightning II (the first deployed combat squadron F-35B).


Satellite image of Google Earth: F-35B fighters at Iwakuni airbase

In 2014, the 152nd naval transport and refueling squadron equipped with KC-130J aircraft was relocated from Futenma to Iwakuni, which significantly increased the combat radius and time spent on patrols for F-35B, F / A-18C / D and F / A-18E / F stationed at Japanese airfields.


Air tanker KC-130J, next to it F-35B and F / A-18C / D fighters

The maximum take-off weight of the KC-130J is 79379 kg, the capacity of the fuel tanks is 25855 kg. The maximum speed is 670 km / h. Cruising - 640 km / h. The service ceiling is 8700 m. Although the range of the KS-130J is significantly inferior to the KC-135R / T tankers, this modification of the Hercules, in contrast to the Stratotanker, is much less demanding on the length and condition of the runway and is more versatile.

If necessary, in addition to refueling, the KC-130J can carry 19000 kg of payload, 64 armed paratroopers or 2 M113 armored personnel carriers. In 2010, the US ILC installed the Harvest Hawk weapon system on the KC-130J, which includes AN / AAQ-30 optoelectronic sighting and search equipment, Hellfire or Griffin missiles, and a 30-mm cannon.

Deck fighters and AWACS aircraft based in Japan


The Yokosuka Naval Base is home to the USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76), a forward-based nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, part of the 5th Aircraft Carrier Strike Group, US 7th Fleet. This group also includes six Arleigh Burke-class destroyers and three Ticonderoga-class cruisers. Usually, together with an aircraft carrier, there are 3-4 American destroyers and cruisers in the harbor, as well as 1-2 multipurpose nuclear submarines.


Satellite image of Google Earth: American warships at the Yokosuka naval base

When repelling an air attack, American cruisers and destroyers located at the Yokosuka naval base will certainly use their air defense means.


Satellite image of Google Earth: aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) at the Yokosuka naval base

While the aircraft carrier "Ronald Reagan" is at the Yokosuka naval base, most of its air wing is located at Atsugi Air Force Base, in Kanagawa Prefecture, which
is the largest American naval aviation base in Japan. The runway length is 2438 m.


Satellite image of Google Earth: F / A-18E / F fighters and EA-18G electronic warfare aircraft at Atsugi airbase

Since 2017, nine squadrons of the 5th aircraft carrier wing are based here, which are armed with carrier-based AWACS aircraft E-2D Advanced Hawkeye, electronic warfare EA-18G Growler, fighters F / A-18E / F Super Hornet, carrier-based transport aircraft C-2 Greyhound and SH-60 / MH-60 Seahawk helicopters.


Satellite image of Google Earth: F / A-18E / F fighters and E-2D AWACS aircraft at Atsugi airbase

The Super Hornet fighters are in service with four strike fighter squadrons: 27th, 102nd, 115th and 195th. Pilots of the 141st Electronic Assault Squadron use EA-18G Growler jammers. Airspace control at distant approaches and fighter guidance is carried out by the crews of the 125th aircraft carrier squadron of radar warning of E-2D aircraft. It is reported that the technical serviceability of aircraft of the 5th aircraft carrier wing is about 75%.

While at the Atsugi airbase, Super Hornet fighters are included in the duty forces, and AWACS carrier-based aircraft regularly fly out on patrols. Currently, carrier-based fighters of the Navy and KMP (approximately 80 F / A-18E / F), based on Japanese airfields, are not equipped with equipment for interfacing with the TORCC combat control system, which makes it difficult to use them in conjunction with F-16CJ / DJ and F- 15C / D. Commands of target designation for air targets in an automated mode, they can receive from deck aircraft AWACS E-2D and voice over the radio.

Possible scenario of using American fighters in the event of an armed conflict between Japan and Russia


Currently, up to 200 US Air Force and Navy fighters are permanently stationed in Japan, which is almost twice the number of Russian fighters deployed throughout the Far East. Taking into account the fact that more than 120 airfields with capital coverage have been built on the Japanese islands, it is possible to disperse (20-24 aircraft per airfield) over 1300 combat aircraft.

Do not discount other American forces stationed in the Far East within walking distance of Japan. Only taking into account 78 F-16C / D fighters of the 51st Fighter Wing and 36th Fighter Squadron, which are part of the 7th US Air Force, stationed in South Korea at the Gunsan airbase, the advantage of the Americans in fighter aviation over the Russian 11- the Air Force and Air Defense Army will be more than 2,5 times.

The US Air Force command can also transfer part of the forces of the 11th American Air Force from Alaska. Its most combat-ready units are: the 3rd Fighter Wing, which includes two 90th and 525th fighter squadrons on F-22A fighters, the 354th Fighter Wing equipped with the F-16C / D, and the 962nd Radar Air Group. patrol and control of E-3C.

At Andersen Air Force Base (Guam), under the control of the 36th Air Wing, the F-15C and F-22A fighters provide air defense. Without taking into account the combat aviation of Japan and South Korea, as well as the combat aircraft deployed to this area by the American airmen, more than 400 American fighters of the Air Force, Navy and USMC based on land airfields can be operatively involved against Russian aviation. Their actions will support up to 10 AWACS aircraft and approximately 30 tanker aircraft.

The multiple local numerical superiority of Japanese and American fighter aircraft is aggravated by the deplorable state of the airfield network in the Russian Far East. The very small number of operational hard-surface runways severely limits our ability to build up an aviation grouping at the expense of combat aircraft airlifted from the western and central regions. It should also be understood that we are still very much inferior in high-precision long-range aviation weapons that do not carry "special" warheads. This, in turn, limits our ability to destroy aircraft and destroy the infrastructure of enemy airfields without entering the enemy air defense zone.

Taking into account all these factors, it can be predicted that, in the event of an armed confrontation between Japan and Russia, when the Russian Aerospace Forces uses only conventional aviation weapons of destruction, American fighters, interacting with the Air Self-Defense Forces, are able to provide air defense of key Japanese objects and minimize damage from our retaliatory strikes.

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  1. -4
    July 16 2021
    missiles, ... ... bombs and torpedoes equipped with "special" warheads, the Russian armed forces can really only in neutral waters or on their own territory to repel Japanese aggression.
    Neutral waters are very large and approach the Japanese islands no less close than the Russian territory.
  2. +1
    July 16 2021
    Anyone who declares that we will easily burn all Japanese combat aircraft at home airfields in the flames of nuclear explosions, and destroy the ships of the Naval Self-Defense Forces along with the infrastructure of naval bases and, in general, simply with the help of "Caliber" and "Iskander", and also other "Poseidons" with "Zircons" we will turn the Japanese islands into a lifeless radioactive desert or even send them to the seabed, forgetting that between Japan and the United States for 60 years there has been a "Treaty on mutual cooperation and security guarantees."

    For those who declare that we will turn Japan into a radioactive desert, in the event of an attack by Japan with conventional weapons, with territorial requirements, they should remember that a strike on the civilian population of nuclear weapons, in this case, will be regarded by the world community as a crime against humanity, and people who gave such the order will be immediately identified as war criminals.
    I want to remind you that there are rules in war for a long time. Explosive bullets and chemical weapons are prohibited. Even in World War II, neither Hitler nor Stalin dared to use huge stockpiles of chemical weapons, even in the most difficult days of the war. They understood perfectly well that if they lose, not only them, but the whole nation will face genocide, as those who supported war criminals for a crime against humanity. It was precisely the fact that Hitler fought according to the rules and allowed the Germans to survive on the planet.
    The massive bombing of Japanese cities, including nuclear weapons, was, strictly speaking, a forced measure, with the help of which the Allies tried, through population losses, to force the top Japanese leadership to end the war that had already been lost for them and sign a surrender. That is, the deaths of a huge number of peaceful Japanese during the bombing were on the conscience of the Japanese government, since the war had long been lost.
    So gentlemen, patriots, who urge, in the event of an attack with conventional weapons on the armed forces of the Russian Federation, to immediately strike nuclear weapons at the enemy's cities, you call for a crime against humanity.
    1. +4
      July 16 2021
      So gentlemen, patriots, who urge, in the event of an attack with conventional weapons on the armed forces of the Russian Federation, to immediately strike nuclear weapons at the enemy's cities, you call for a crime against humanity.

      It is no secret, and the author hints at this that without TNW, our country is now unable to repel coordinated aggression from several directions. But as rightly said in this article, you will have to beat the enemy with nuclear charges on our territory.
      1. -9
        July 16 2021
        Quote: Tucan
        you will have to beat the enemy with nuclear charges on our territory.

        The centers of control and decision-making are not on our territory, and without control any armed forces are an uncontrollable "herd". This is well understood both there and here.
        1. +1
          July 16 2021
          The centers of control and decision-making are not on our territory, and without control any armed forces are an uncontrollable herd. This is well understood both there and here.

          What's next? Have you read the article at all? It clearly states where the headquarters of the American Air Force and the Japanese Air Force are located.
          1. -8
            July 16 2021
            Quote: Tucan
            it is clear where the headquarters of the American Air Force and the Japanese Air Force are located.

            Hopefully not on our territory. laughing It doesn't matter where they are. In case of war, they will be destroyed first.
            1. +2
              July 16 2021
              It doesn't matter where they are. In case of war, they will be destroyed first.

              How are you going to destroy them, so as not to provoke the enemy into a retaliatory nuclear strike on our territory?
              1. -10
                July 16 2021
                Quote: Tucan
                so as not to provoke the enemy into a retaliatory nuclear strike

                Read our military doctrine.
                1. +5
                  July 16 2021
                  Read our military doctrine.

                  Those. you are not able to answer this question No. I'm not surprised. request
        2. +4
          July 16 2021
          Quote: Boris55
          The centers of control and decision-making are not on our territory, and without control any armed forces are an uncontrollable "herd". This is well understood both there and here.

          Since the chain of command is hierarchical and duplicated many times, in order to completely destroy the chain of command, almost all officers must be eliminated. The question is how to do this? There are a lot of officers and they are distributed over a gigantic territory. You know everything about management there in KOB, give an idea wassat
          1. -14
            July 16 2021
            Quote: KKND
            There are a lot of officers and they are distributed over a gigantic territory.

            "In the army, I and the sergeant are in command... All the others are only passing my orders to Zhukov.

            Analyze: the war on 08 08 08, the war in Syria, how Crimea returned home.
            Most importantly, reread our military doctrine. hi
          2. +3
            July 16 2021
            You know everything about management there in KOB, give an idea to wassat

            You asked the wrong question. No. Boris's horse is to drown for power, and to tell what a good tsar, with bad boyars. But in technical, especially military matters, knowledge is needed, here demagoguery will not work. No. Not so long ago, Boris broadcast that Russian engines are used on Chinese launch vehicles. wassat
            1. +5
              July 16 2021
              Quote: Tucan
              You asked the wrong question. Boris's horse is to drown for power, and to tell what a good tsar, with bad boyars. But in technical, especially military matters, knowledge is needed, here demagoguery will not work.

              Yes, Boris is perhaps the best demagogue in VO. It's a pity that the administration does not vote for the best demagogue at VO. He even constantly hints in the comments that he is engaged in demagoguery.
              It is strange that he decided to comment on Sergey's article, I wonder if he mastered it to the end?
              1. +3
                July 16 2021
                It is strange that he decided to comment on Sergey's article, I wonder if he mastered it to the end?

                This is unlikely, demagogy does not require knowledge.
    2. +1
      July 16 2021
      I want to remind you that there are rules in war for a long time. Explosive bullets and chemical weapons are prohibited. Even in World War II, neither Hitler nor Stalin dared to use huge stockpiles of chemical weapons, even in the most difficult days of the war. They understood perfectly well that if they lose, not only them, but the whole nation will face genocide, as those who supported war criminals for a crime against humanity. It was precisely the fact that Hitler fought according to the rules and allowed the Germans to survive on the planet.


      What are the rules? Is there a code of honor for waging war somewhere? The Hitlerite governors were just tried for war crimes against the civilian population who were genocide. And the Russians as well. Chemical weapons were not used stupidly due to their inefficiency, huge problems during use, transportation and storage. What happened then? Zorin? How much zorin does it take to cover a strip of hundreds of kilometers? And the front stretched for thousands of kilometers.
      1. +3
        July 16 2021
        Quote: Choi
        What are the rules? Is there a code of honor for waging war somewhere?

        I find it difficult to answer the question where is this code of honor, but agreements exist among the military of large countries. So in 1914, some of the top officers of the warring parties gathered for the New Year to drink champagne and wish each other a speedy end to the war. Also during the Second World War there were secret negotiations between the military of Hitlerite Germany and the Soviet Union. The military prefer to keep silent about their negotiations, and very few people have access to these negotiations.
        Quote: Choi
        Chemical weapons were not used stupidly due to their inefficiency, huge problems during use, transportation and storage.

        Where have you heard enough tales about the ineffectiveness of chemical weapons? Such an ineffective weapon that it was produced after the First and after the Second World War. And even now, many countries, apparently from the fact that there is nothing to do, store stocks of chemical weapons. If so much effort has been spent on production and storage, then it is not so ineffective as you were told.
        1. 0
          July 16 2021
          I find it difficult to answer the question where is this code of honor, but agreements exist among the military of large countries. So in 1914, some of the senior officers of the warring parties gathered for the New Year to drink champagne and wish each other a speedy end to the war.


          This is a special case in no way reflecting the existence of some unknown rules of war. They fight as they can or the situation allows.

          Where have you heard enough tales about the ineffectiveness of chemical weapons? Such an ineffective weapon that it was produced after the First and after the Second World War. And even now, many countries, apparently from the fact that there is nothing to do, store stocks of chemical weapons. If so much effort has been spent on production and storage, then it is not so ineffective as you were told.


          Give the statistics in which chemical weapons killed more than conventional weapons, and I agree. Otherwise, this is the same demagoguery.
      2. +4
        July 16 2021
        Quote: Choi
        What are the rules? Is there a code of honor for waging war somewhere? The Hitlerite governors were just tried for war crimes against the civilian population who were genocide. And the Russians as well. Chemical weapons were not used stupidly due to their inefficiency, huge problems during use, transportation and storage.

        Come on ... That's why we and the allies have accumulated huge thousands of tons of mustard gas, lewisite and cyanogen chloride. Perhaps you forgot that in the First World War, CW was used very actively, and did not experience any special problems with transportation and storage. No. .
        Quote: Choi
        What happened then? Zorin?

        What is Zorin? what
        Quote: Choi
        How much zorin does it take to cover a strip of hundreds of kilometers? And the front stretched for thousands of kilometers.

        I respect the opinion of professionals, but if you do not understand something, it is better to remain silent. Otherwise, it looks unsightly. No.
        The network in the public domain has application methods, features and characteristics of various BOV. Only there would be a desire to study this thoughtfully, including the properties of organophosphate nerve agents, which include those discovered by German chemists "Tabun" and "Zarin" and "Soman". The latter, by the way, can still be considered a reference BOV with a binding effect (about 250 times more toxic than phosgene). The well-known VX (the Soviet counterpart is known as the P-33) is not much superior to the Soman in terms of combat effectiveness and is safer to use.
        1. 0
          July 16 2021
          Perhaps you forgot that in the First World War, CW was used very actively, and did not experience any special problems with transportation and storage.


          And it was with a relatively massive use that it turned out that gases and BOV are too unpredictable and have low efficiency against a prepared enemy. The presence of chemical weapons did not give any advantage to either side. Used tactically with varying success.

          What is Zorin?


          Sarin, of course. I write from the phone and don't always get where I need to.


          I respect the opinion of professionals, but if you do not understand something, it is better to remain silent. Otherwise, it looks unsightly.


          Here you are right. The opinion of an amateur.
          1. +3
            July 16 2021
            Quote: Choi
            Give the statistics in which chemical weapons killed more than conventional weapons, and I agree.

            During the first chemical attack on April 22, 1915, a gap was formed in the French defense, 8 km along the front and 10 km in depth. The number of those poisoned reached 15 thousand, of which 5 thousand died on the battlefield.
            Don't underestimate the effectiveness of modern poisons No. So when hitting a megapolis with an OTR with a warhead equipped with nerve-paralytic ammunition, the number of victims can be comparable to TNW.
            Quote: Choi
            And it was with a relatively massive use that it turned out that gases and BOV are too unpredictable and have low efficiency against a prepared enemy.

            It depends on what gases. Shells with dermal ovaries proved to be very effective, and there was no proper protection against them. No.
            Quote: Choi
            The presence of chemical weapons did not give any advantage to either side. Used tactically with varying success.

            This can be said about any weapon.
            Quote: Choi
            Here you are right. The opinion of an amateur.

            You may be interested in this:
            Chemical weapon. Elimination or improvement?
            https://topwar.ru/35371-himicheskoe-oruzhie-likvidaciya-ili-sovershenstvovanie.html
            "The Bane of the Century" or the discovery of Dr. Schrader
            https://topwar.ru/38326-otrava-veka-ili-otkrytie-doktora-shradera.html
            Non-lethal warfare agents
            https://topwar.ru/39261-boevye-otravlyayuschie-veschestva-ne-letalnogo-deystviya.html
            1. 0
              July 16 2021
              During the first chemical attack on April 22, 1915, a gap of 8 km along the front and 10 km in depth was formed in the French defense. The number of those poisoned reached 15 thousand, of which 5 thousand died on the battlefield.


              Yes, this was the first large-scale application. But then they could not repeat this success. Means of protection appeared and there were no such losses.

              underestimating the effectiveness of modern poisons


              This is yes.


              You may be interested in this:


              Thank you. After I will be enlightened.
              1. +2
                July 17 2021
                Quote: Choi
                Yes, this was the first large-scale application. But then they could not repeat this success.

                This also happened to the tanks.
            2. +2
              July 21 2021
              I will allow myself to insert my 5 kopecks, you remembered about the PMA, but no matter how hard the sides tensed, not a single chemical weapon never broke through the front. In WWII, the delivery vehicles did not change much, except that it was possible to bomb from an airplane. And here's how after the Americans had fun this something, but the essence remains the same, chemical weapons, with their effectiveness, are too unpredictable, and in a mobile war, where there is a place for trucks and mass production of protective equipment and disinfection (you understand), a chemical weapon can do more harm than good.
      3. +2
        July 21 2021
        And the front stretched for thousands of kilometers.

        And, importantly, the Germans were of no use to this, since they needed a civilian population for work, in factories and in the field, someone had to feed the Reich, and the genocide and concentration camps were coping with. And ours beat the omp on their own territory ... yes, even he says unnecessarily, and when the war went beyond the territory of the USSR, the USSR, in principle, had no plans to use the omp, since they understood that this was called genocide, well, in general, communism was not about this, and the war was already won without chemical weapons
    3. +3
      July 16 2021
      Hi!
      Quote: KKND
      For those who declare that we will turn Japan into a radioactive desert, in the event of an attack by Japan with conventional weapons, with territorial requirements, we must remember that an attack on the civilian population of nuclear weapons, in this case, will be regarded by the world community as a crime against humanity.

      You got a little bit in the wrong direction ... No. In this publication, the attack on Japanese civilian objects was not considered at all. Perhaps you missed the point, but without the risk of a global confrontation with the United States, we cannot even hit Japanese air bases, since the largest of them, in addition to the Air Self-Defense Force, are also used by the American military.
      1. +4
        July 16 2021
        Quote: Bongo
        You got a little bit in the wrong direction ...

        Yes, it’s me to the opinion of our patriots that in cases of aggression we will burn down Japanese cities. Hi by the way.
        Quote: Bongo
        Perhaps you missed the point, but without the risk of a global confrontation with the United States, we cannot even hit Japanese air bases, since the largest of them, in addition to the Air Self-Defense Force, are also used by the American military.

        Yes, I understand that, but you did not take into account that it is possible, in cases of Japanese aggression, to strike at Japanese factories, infrastructure facilities and other extremely painful points of the Japanese economy with conventional weapons. The Americans will not like this, but they can be warned about the impending strike in order to reduce the risks. This will not diminish their military potential, but may lead to a "Pyrrhic victory" situation.
        1. +4
          July 16 2021
          Quote: KKND
          Yes, I understand that, but you did not take into account that it is possible, in cases of Japanese aggression, to strike at Japanese factories, infrastructure facilities and other extremely painful points of the Japanese economy with conventional weapons.

          For example? What conventional weapons?
          1. +3
            July 16 2021
            Quote: Bongo
            For example? What weapon?

            Well, we don't have cruise missiles? If it really squeezes, you can tell the Americans what we are doing and fuck the OTR. It will not be possible to evacuate equipment from the factory in a couple of hours, and the bridge cannot be evacuated at all.
            1. +5
              July 16 2021
              Quote: KKND
              Well, we don't have cruise missiles?

              In ordinary equipment, of those that have the necessary accuracy, there are very few of them. Have you carefully read about the Japanese and American air defense systems in Japan (in the previous articles of the cycle)?
              Quote: KKND
              It will not be possible to evacuate equipment from the factory in a couple of hours, and the bridge cannot be evacuated at all.

              Uh-huh. Yes
              Do you want to compare the arsenal of guided aircraft weapons available to our "partners" in the Far East region and ours, as well as the vulnerability of infrastructure in the winter, say Khabarovsk and the sister city of Niigata? You can also compare the number of bridges and factories.
              1. +4
                July 16 2021
                Quote: Bongo
                Uh-huh.
                Do you want to compare the arsenal of guided aircraft weapons available to our "partners" in the Far East region and ours, as well as the vulnerability of infrastructure in the winter, say Khabarovsk and the sister city of Niigata? You can also compare the number of bridges and factories.

                Well, I understand perfectly well that we cannot greatly destroy their economic potential with the available means, then they will quickly fix everything with Western loans. But if we imagine that the Americans will massively hit the road in cases of war, then with the same means we and their military potential will not greatly damage, so it turns out that the matter is not that the Americans have settled there, but in the fact that in fact we have nothing special to answer from conventional weapons.
                Well, in principle, it remains, as you want to say, the careful use of TNW.
                Quote: Bongo
                Do you want to compare the arsenal of guided aircraft weapons available to our "partners" in the Far East region and ours

                Yes, it seems that the Japanese do not have a lot of controlled air-to-ground aircraft weapons recourse
                1. +3
                  July 16 2021
                  Quote: KKND
                  Well, I understand perfectly well that we cannot greatly destroy their economic potential with the available means, then they will quickly fix everything with Western loans. But if we imagine that the Americans will massively hit the road in cases of war, then with the same means we and their military potential will not greatly damage, so it turns out that the matter is not that the Americans have settled there, but in the fact that in fact we have nothing special to answer from conventional weapons.
                  Well, in principle, it remains, as you want to say, the careful use of TNW.

                  All our hope is only for the "yadren-loaf", and again not for Japan, but for the forces of the aggressor in neutral waters, or in our occupied territory.
                  Quote: KKND
                  Yes, it seems that the Japanese do not have a lot of controlled air-to-ground aircraft weapons

                  Not a lot, but they've taken great pains lately to get such a weapon. I did not mean Japanese weapons, but their closest allies. If we strike with conventional weapons at the American-Japanese bases, then with a high degree of probability the Americans will use in response to our airfields, air defense positions and strategically important infrastructure facilities their guided long-range "air-to-ground" and "ship-to-ground" weapons in conventional equipment ... Here they have an order of magnitude superiority. In the first strike, we will be able to shoot down about 70% of the goals, but if the conflict drags on, everything will be sad.
                  1. +4
                    July 16 2021
                    Quote: Bongo
                    I did not mean Japanese weapons, but their closest allies. If we strike with conventional weapons at the American-Japanese bases, then with a high degree of probability the Americans will use in response to our airfields, air defense positions and strategically important infrastructure facilities their guided long-range "air-to-ground" and "ship-to-ground" weapons in conventional equipment ...

                    Well, we are unlikely to "think of this". Although.... wassat It remains to beat the Japanese economy.
                    Quote: Bongo
                    In the first strike, we will be able to shoot down about 70% of the goals, but if the conflict drags on, everything will be sad.

                    Sergei, you are much more competent in air defense issues than I am, but it seems to me that you greatly overestimated the percentage. A cruise missile is extremely difficult to shoot down, Rust and the Soviet response to Rust (it seems an unmanned MiG-23 or something) showed this well. Planning a bomb is also not easy, the EPR is small. In general, I lost my faith in our air defense. Of course, you can say that I am not a specialist and all these air defense systems are built by very smart people, but I don’t understand where our military got such "technical blindness". All these ekranoplanes, crazy experimental ships, the awful construction of the surface fleet, all these complex missiles with ramjet engines, except for us no one else builds them, MiG-25 \ 31, Ptura on tanks. I am haunted by the idea that our faith in the air defense system may also be a consequence of the clearly present "technical blindness" (in terms of the very concept of weapons) of the Soviet / Russian military.
                    1. +6
                      July 16 2021
                      Quote: KKND
                      Sergei, you are much more competent in air defense issues than I am, but it seems to me that you greatly overestimated the percentage.

                      When hitting the Khabarovsk Territory, approximately the same figure. In Primorye, of course, less. Another question is that the S-300P / S-400 ammunition is not so great.
                      Quote: KKND
                      I am haunted by the thought that our faith in the air defense system may also be a consequence of the clearly present "technical blindness" (in terms of the very concept of weapons) of the Soviet / Russian military.

                      We are very fond of inserting our air defense systems in the role of a "superweapon" that has no analogues. wassat But this is stupid propaganda aimed at the narrow-minded man in the street. With the help of only the air defense system, of course, the war cannot be won No. But they give combat stability to other types of troops, and allow you to protect objects in the depth of the defense. The Americans have an "offensive approach" in the air defense unit; they prefer to destroy enemy air attack weapons at airfields. The few surviving enemy aircraft are intercepted by fighters that have achieved air superiority. But look at the air defense systems of countries like Israel, the Republic of Korea and Japan, where a surprise attack on territory is possible. The analogy with the construction of our air defense system is clearly visible.
                      1. +4
                        July 16 2021
                        Quote: Bongo
                        But they give combat stability to other types of troops, and allow you to protect objects in the depth of the defense.

                        Quote: Bongo
                        But look at the air defense systems of countries like Israel, the Republic of Korea and Japan, where a surprise attack on territory is possible.

                        Yes, the main purpose of the air defense missile system is protection against a sudden strike. The whole question is how effective protection is. hi
              2. +1
                July 17 2021
                Quote: Bongo
                also vulnerability in the winter of infrastructure of say Khabarovsk and the sister city of Niigata? You can also compare the number of bridges and factories.

                ))))
                For such an analyst, you will be prescribed Japanese espionage as Marshal Blucher.

                And it's good if only the site administration.
                1. +3
                  July 21 2021
                  It already happened)
  3. 0
    July 16 2021
    The article is interesting and reflects reality. But why did they mention this?

    In 2010, the US ILC installed the Harvest Hawk weapon system on the KC-130J, which includes AN / AAQ-30 optoelectronic sighting and search equipment, Hellfire or Griffin missiles, and a 30-mm cannon


    This is a gunship Ghostrider. Specially built, please note it as a side for special operations. Any S-130 cannot do that. Moreover, a tanker.
    1. +3
      July 16 2021
      Quote: Choi
      The article is interesting and reflects reality. But why did they mention this?

      In 2010, the US ILC installed the Harvest Hawk weapon system on the KC-130J, which includes AN / AAQ-30 optoelectronic sighting and search equipment, Hellfire or Griffin missiles, and a 30-mm cannon

      This is a gunship Ghostrider. Specially built, please note it as a side for special operations. Any S-130 cannot do that. Moreover, a tanker.


      Excuse me, once again I cannot agree with you. No.
      Where does the publication say about "any S-130"? The publication is about the KS-130J USMC.
      Here's what they write about this car on the website of the Lockheed Martin company:
      The KC-130J can also be configured as an aerial gunship, with the addition of an AN / AAQ-60 targeting pod, Hellfire missiles, guided bombs and a 30 mm cannon. The so-called Harvest HAWK package is used for ground support of Marines in contact and was first used in Afghanistan

      And these are pictures of the KS-130J armament:
      1. +3
        July 16 2021
        Excuse me, once again I cannot agree with you.
        Where does the publication say about "any S-130"? The publication is about the KS-130J USMC.
        Here's what they write about this car on the website of the Lockheed Martin company:


        Live and learn. I thought they would only convert a part of the Hercules, but it turned out that the entire fleet of marines was 70 aircraft plus osprey for this whale. I confess I was wrong. hi
        1. +3
          July 16 2021
          Quote: Choi
          Live and learn. I thought they would only convert a part of the Hercules, but it turned out that the entire fleet of marines was 70 aircraft plus osprey for this whale. I confess I was wrong.

          Nobody can know everything. Yes
          1. +4
            July 16 2021
            Quote: Bongo
            Nobody can know everything.

            Well, at least someone you Sergei manage to enlighten, it's even surprising hi
            1. +6
              July 16 2021
              Quote: KKND
              Well, at least someone you Sergei manage to enlighten, it's even surprising

              The day has not been lived in vain! wink
            2. +4
              July 16 2021
              Well, at least someone you Sergei manage to enlighten, it's even surprising


              I'm not ashamed to admit that I missed somewhere. It is impossible to know everything in truth.
              1. +4
                July 17 2021
                Quote: Choi
                I'm not ashamed to admit that I missed somewhere. It is impossible to know everything in truth.

                The ability to admit one’s wrong characterizes a person well! good
  4. -3
    July 16 2021
    Why compare a cart with a Mercedes at all? All Siberia and the Far East have already been sold by the Chubais and Gaidars. Look in open sources who is the owner of all Russian hydropower in Siberia? Americans. Who is the owner of the forest, coal and other minerals. Anyone, but not the Russian Federation. The Americans keep as many troops as is necessary for police operations, but not for war, such as our National Guard. Look at the maps of the GUGL, the Soviet runways, almost all of them are destroyed and nothing is being done to restore them. The article is so, just to put the rest in your eyes.
    1. +3
      July 16 2021
      Quote: Yarik
      Why compare a cart with a Mercedes at all? All Siberia and the Far East have already been sold by the Chubais and Gaidars. Look in open sources who is the owner of all Russian hydropower in Siberia?

      Regarding the beneficiaries of the allegedly Russian companies, I largely agree with you. But this is not what this publication is about. No. By and large, the Japanese are parallel to who is the real owner of Russian resources. The point is that Japan has multiple superiority in combat aviation and navy over our forces in the Far East. The Japanese, relying on the American anti-aircraft umbrella, can decide on a military adventure, using their forces in offensive operations. At the same time, the Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy will not be able to draw the United States into the conflict without risking a strike on Japanese bases.
      1. +1
        July 16 2021
        PMSM, if Japan suddenly goes on something like an amateur adventure, then a big ambit is not far off and then no one will be interested in international public opinion ...
      2. +4
        July 17 2021
        Well, we got to geopolitics.

        Why the hell are there military adventures in this direction for Japan? Another country, even two, arranges military prompts for her. Actually, given the presence of these countries, she ties up with pacifism. Grandfather's orders are not yet hung in the red corner, but she got them from the hiding place in the basement for a long time, put them in the chest of drawers. Or even in the sideboard. South Kurils? Pieces of stone in the middle of nowhere.

        No, if suddenly Russia starts to fight the rights of Russian speakers in Hokkaido, then another story.
      3. -2
        July 17 2021
        Quote: Bongo
        The Japanese, relying on the American anti-aircraft umbrella, can decide on a military adventure, using their forces in offensive operations. At the same time, the Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy will not be able to draw the United States into the conflict without risking a strike on Japanese bases.


        Well, if the United States is so brave and they don't want to live at all, then let them be drawn in? We'll sit early, we'll go out sooner
  5. -4
    July 17 2021
    In order for the Japanese to respect the Russians as well as the Amers, we must also throw them off .........
    1. +3
      July 17 2021
      Good idea. You will fly.
  6. -1
    July 17 2021
    Named to Japanese nationalists.
    They want everything to land.
    They don't remember 1945.
    Shameful loss.
    I hope they don't have to prove to them again who and what will happen next.
    1. +6
      July 17 2021
      Quote: Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
      They don't remember 1945.
      Shameful loss.

      The Japanese remember it very well. These are not Germans for you.

      By the way, about the shameful loss. Emperor Hirohito did not live to see the end of the USSR for two years. Humanitarian aid was sent to the starving Primorye already under his son, Akihito.
  7. -2
    July 17 2021
    Quote: KKND
    In this case, the world community will regard it as a crime against humanity, and the people who gave such an order will be immediately identified as war criminals.

    Smyshno
    Who is the world community? And who really thinks that in the event of a decision to use nuclear weapons against a US ally, someone will care about the opinion of this community and this community will voice it instead of slowly crawling aside, covered with a white sheet?
    Humanist dreamers are such humanist dreamers
  8. +3
    July 21 2021
    Russian armed forces can really only repel Japanese aggression in neutral waters or on their own territory.

    Sergey, good time of day, I was wondering why such a long break, but it turns out the work is good.
    Do not listen to those who say such nonsense, as they say, it is either fools or provocateurs. I am more inclined to the first option, so they were given so much information about the air defense / missile defense and the forces deployed, and apparently they do not know the logic, this is what the TV does.
    Yes, and you said that in the event of a military clash over small islands, the Americans will not participate directly by the military, I think they will be very even, since they are there, firstly, for this purpose, and secondly, the Japanese Air Force is directly subordinate to the Americans , which means that without a team of representatives of the Pentagon, Japanese planes will not even take off, and thirdly, these islands, in general, are what the Americans need.
    And in the event of nuclear strikes, everything is cleverly arranged, you are right that it is not the presence of nuclear weapons that is important, but the ability to deliver them, it's like cartridges without a rifle. We see that the Japanese have a good missile defense, but here are two more snags, in order to deliver serious strikes, the mbr will have to fly over China and the DPRK, because we need to reach the south of Japan and it is desirable that the missiles flew not along Japan, which means we need to negotiate with the Chinese, otherwise they also knock, and if Yao falls on Japan, as you wrote here, American citizens are constantly present in Japan, moreover, it is civilians who live there permanently and in Russia they cannot but know about it since these are not tourists, and a massive blow will surely touch them, which means that the Americans will have many questions ...

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