Multipurpose submarine of small displacement "Gorgon". New concept in the interests of the fleet

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Multipurpose submarine of small displacement "Gorgon". New concept in the interests of the fleet
Small non-nuclear submarine P-750B developed by SPMBM "Malakhit". Perhaps the "Gorgon" will be like her

Currently, our country is working on several promising projects of submarines of various classes and purposes. Not so long ago it became known about the launch of the project with the code "Gorgon". As part of this work, the SPMBM "Malachite" is working out the appearance of a multipurpose nuclear submarine of small displacement.

New directions


Several weeks ago, JSC “St. Petersburg Marine Engineering Bureau“ Malakhit ”prepared and published its annual report for 2020. One of the first sections of this document, traditionally, is devoted to the key events of the year under review. It mentions the implementation of various works on projects already being implemented, and also reveals the existence of new ones.



One of the paragraphs of the section indicates that last year “on an initiative basis, technical proposals were developed and the appearance of the Gorgon nuclear multipurpose submarine of small displacement was determined. Along with this work, the already well-known project of the non-nuclear submarine "Serval" is mentioned.

In another section of the report, "Gorgon" and other projects are called works that ensure the strategic development of the enterprise. There are no other references to the new project in the report. No data of a technical or other nature is also provided. It is reported about the manufacture of models of various submarines for display at exhibitions, but not "Gorgons".

It should be recalled that in recent years SPMBM "Malachite" regularly discloses information about its promising developments. Thus, materials on new projects of the Piranha family were published, and last year the model of the Serval was openly demonstrated. The new project "Gorgon" for unknown reasons has not yet reached this stage.

Technical puzzles


Very little is known about the Gorgon project so far. In fact, only the very fact of its existence and the class to which the new submarine will belong is disclosed. However, this information is enough to determine the overall picture and search for possible benefits.


Project appearance of the P-650E submarine

The Gorgon project proposes a design for a small displacement submarine, the exact meaning of which has not been named. Taking into account the domestic experience in this area, it can be expected that the displacement of the Gorgon will exceed 200-250 tons, but will not go beyond 1000-1500 tons. For comparison, the Serval project envisages reaching the level of 1450 tons.

Thus, the "Gorgon" will be lighter than all existing submarines of the main classes, including the diesel "Varshavyanka" and the special nuclear-powered "Losharik". Accordingly, such a boat will be inferior to them in terms of main dimensions. The length of a promising nuclear submarine can be estimated at 50-60 m, diameter - no more than 5-7 m.

Information on the use of a nuclear power plant is of great interest. "Gorgon" may become the first domestic small class submarine with a similar power. Until now, all such ships were equipped only with diesel-electric power plants.

The idea of ​​a small submarine with a nuclear power plant has certain advantages and allows you to improve the potential of the ship. In this case, rather complex technical problems arise, without the solution of which it will not be possible to obtain all the desired results. First of all, it is the need to fit the power plant of the required power into the limited dimensions and displacement of a small nuclear submarine.

The Gorgon is seen as a multipurpose submarine. Modern domestic nuclear submarines of this class are equipped with advanced means of observation and target designation, and are also capable of carrying a variety of mine-torpedo and missile weapons. Due to this, an effective search and defeat of surface, underwater and coastal targets is ensured.


Submarines of the "Varshavyanka" type, with a displacement of less than 4 thousand tons, are the smallest and heaviest among the warships of our submarine forces.

In the well-known projects of small submarines from SPMBM "Malachite", the complex of weapons is built on the basis of torpedo tubes of different calibers. At the same time, 533-mm systems are capable of using both torpedoes and modern missiles. The Gorgon project can also use this approach. The use of a separate launcher for missiles, as in projects of larger nuclear submarines, is unlikely.

Earlier it was mentioned that the non-nuclear submarine "Serval" can receive a modular complex of weapons, self-defense and reconnaissance means. The composition of the boat's equipment should be determined during the planning of the operation, and it is proposed to mount the necessary equipment on it before going to sea. It is quite possible that such solutions will find application in the "Gorgon" project - if the objective limitations of the design allow it.

It should be expected that the most modern models of radio-electronic equipment will be used in the promising project, incl. with new features. Most of the control processes can be automated, making it possible to reduce the crew.

Possible benefits


The Gorgon project is based on the original concept of a small multipurpose nuclear submarine. It provides for the integration of solutions specific to different classes of underwater technology in order to obtain new opportunities. You can imagine what advantages such a nuclear submarine will show and how it can be useful for fleet.

At the moment, the benefit of the "Gorgon" lies in research and development and in the search for the necessary solutions, components and technologies. Regardless of the further fate of the project, SPMBM "Malakhit" will receive valuable experience in the development of an unusual class submarine, which can then be used to create new ships.


Launch of Kalibr missiles by Project 636.3 submarines. The "Gorgon" can get similar opportunities.

Small submarines from SPMBM "Malakhit", such as "Piranha", P-650E, etc., are offered for the defense of coastal and sea borders, bases, etc. They must patrol at a limited distance from the coast, tracking the activity of a potential enemy. Their standard armament allows them to attack a wide range of targets, both in defensive and offensive operations. In addition, small submarines are capable of supporting the work of combat swimmers.

A submarine of small displacement like the proposed "Gorgon" is quite capable of solving all such problems. At the same time, the nuclear power plant will improve some of its capabilities. Such a ship can constantly remain under water and not be exposed to unnecessary risks with regular surfacing.

However, the presence of a nuclear power plant complicates the development of the project and increases the cost of building a boat. There are also operational limitations. Unlike diesel and non-nuclear ships, the Gorgon needs a base with a more complex and developed infrastructure. A significant disadvantage is the high cost of the life cycle, from construction to disposal.

From initiative to implementation


The concept of a low-displacement multipurpose nuclear submarine provides for the use of a number of interesting ideas and solutions that provide the most remarkable results. It is very interesting from a technical point of view, but the real prospects are not yet fully clear. The potential customer has yet to evaluate the initiative development of the SPMBM "Malachite" and determine the value of the "Gorgon" for the navy.

Initiative developments of design bureaus, created without an order from the Ministry of Defense, often do not receive development. However, it cannot be ruled out that the "Gorgon" or another project of an unusual nuclear submarine will interest the military and receive support. In this case, the original concept will be developed and turned into a full-fledged technical project. At the same time, the opposite scenario is also possible, in which the multipurpose small submarine has no future.

At the moment, very little is known about the Gorgon project, which does not allow us to fully assess its advantages and disadvantages, as well as predict the real future. However, one can expect that in the near future this project will be presented at one of the military-technical exhibitions - and all the basic data necessary for a more detailed study will be published.
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  1. +11
    12 July 2021 05: 23
    , only the very fact of its existence and class is revealed,
    and from this a rather big article turned out.
    The author is well done.
    1. +1
      12 July 2021 06: 24
      I am certainly not a pro in these matters, but it seems that this underwater "small fry" is very biting. Small, but will bite - it will not seem a little ... And even with a reactor ...
      1. +13
        12 July 2021 06: 56
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        I'm certainly not a pro in these matters, but

        So I am an amateur in this matter, as far as I have accepted that they have reached a certain level in creating small-sized yasu and are trying to create something on their basis. With drones, it's clear, but how can we ensure the protection of the crew? The amount of protection is not small, and it seems that it is not easy to fit it into these dimensions, well, we are not standing still already happy.
        1. 0
          12 July 2021 07: 03
          the need to fit the power plant of the required power into the limited dimensions and displacement of a small nuclear submarine


          Probably a technically quite solvable problem.
          Yes, the geometrical dimensions of the proposed ship and the displacement are less than those of the "adult" nuclear submarines, but the power of the power plant, in this case, correspondingly smaller ones are needed.
          In this case, the point is only to adapt the power plant to the project (if there is one) or to design it anew.
          1. +5
            12 July 2021 07: 16
            Quote: PiK
            In this case, the point is only to adapt the power plant to the project (if there is one) or to design it anew.

            That's just this (the dimensions of the jar itself) seem to be, but from the dimensions of the reactor, the amount of means for protecting the crew, namely the crew, in my opinion, should not differ much, after all, radiation ... I noted that on unmanned Poseidons, as if not a problem, but here ... Well, they work, already happy.
            1. +3
              15 July 2021 08: 30
              Citizens!
              Don't you think that this article contains the answer why we have few submarine projects with VNEU?
              Our design bureaus have taken a different path of PL development. It looks like a breakthrough has been achieved in the technology of small nuclear power plants.
            2. 0
              9 September 2021 00: 04
              Quote: NIKNN
              Well, they work, they are already happy.

              According to the designers, the Gorgon will be able to detect floating drones, miniature submarines and combat swimmers (reconnaissance divers) at depths not exceeding thirty meters. Search markers will be metal items of equipment and weapons: oxygen tanks, manipulators, casing elements, underwater drones and boats, and even combat knives.

              The Malachite specialists announce that by the beginning of 2022, several new functions will appear in the combat capabilities of the complex: floating solar batteries and the ability to transmit information using a radio channel.

              Obviously, the "Gorgon" is a rather complex automated complex, which includes eight electronic control units installed not only on the shore, but also at the bottom of the water area serviced by the mini-nuclear submarine. Each of the units is connected by three sensitive cables with an induction box. It is these cables that determine the approach of foreign metal objects by local changes in the planet's magnetic field, transmitting the corresponding signal to the operator's console.

              It is noteworthy that changes in weather conditions and the speed of underwater currents do not have a noticeable effect on the efficiency of the "Gorgon" equipment. An algorithm specially developed by specialists makes it possible to distinguish a combat diver or an underwater drone even against the background of ocean debris floating in the same direction. The continuous detection zone of the "Gorgon", according to some sources, is a strip about 250 meters wide at a distance of up to half a kilometer from the coastline.
        2. +1
          12 July 2021 14: 29
          So it seems that the Tu-95 was equipped with a nuclear reactor 50-60 years ago. And these years did not mark time, so the issues of dimensions and protection, presumably, are well thought out.
      2. +22
        12 July 2021 07: 33
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        small fry "very biting. Small, but bite - it will not seem a little ... Yes, and with a reactor

        And what is its bite?
        There are few torpedo tubes, God forbid a couple of 533 millimeters would be included.
        A full-fledged GAK will not fit, over there on Yasen it occupies the whole "face", but where into the baby?

        In general, I do not believe in these concepts.
        Such pictures in every research institute and design bureau are like candy wrappers. I myself remember writing similar reports in my youth. This was the first thing that was assigned to me when I came to the research institute as a young specialist. The boss dreamed of something there, he figured it out on his fingers for a quick one, and he instructed me to count, draw diagrams and arrange them beautifully. So far, the research work has been completed, the budget has been used, the report has been written.
        1. +4
          12 July 2021 08: 44
          Quote: Jacket in stock
          The chief dreamed of something there, he figured it out on his fingers on a quick one, and he instructed me to count ...

          After all, different thoughts come, and suddenly - brilliant ...
          The question is - why does the Navy need it, what is its main goal? Plowing coastal honey water ..? Anyway, the submarine will come out cheaper and safer than a small submarine.
          1. +3
            12 July 2021 09: 02
            Quote: Doccor18
            Anyway, the submarine will come out cheaper and safer than a small submarine.

            And they have the concept of the submarine ready, the "Serval" mentioned here. For all cases, options, as they say - you will miss it, but it is.
            And on it even more specifics are told. And his VNEU is advertised almost as ready-made ...
            Well I also say - candy wrappers.
        2. +6
          12 July 2021 09: 24
          Here, after all, everything depends on the GEM. If this installation is closed loop and unattended or serviced only at the port, then everything else is not such a problem.
          As a variant of delirium.
          In the stern of the power plant. In the center is a capsule with a crew. between the power plant and the capsule, you can put 4-8 launchers (but most likely they simply will not fit in length (instead of them, you can shove counter-torpedoes. In the nose, the entire nose of the GAK. Shooting torpedoes to the sides. With this construction, 6 TA should fit in. Plus small TA If we make an automatic loader for the TA, it will be very good. Plus, the robotization of all systems, then the habitability will be decent for a small crew.
          1. -1
            12 July 2021 09: 29
            Quote: alstr
            As an option .
            In the stern of the power plant. In the center is a capsule with a crew. between the power plant and the capsule you can put 4-8 PU

            And I would have carried the PU out of the body on the sides in the form of conditional "wings". And hook at least 2, at least 20, as much as the engine pulls. If you actively seek, less, if you sit in ambush, more.
            1. +6
              12 July 2021 13: 03
              Wings with torpedoes will make noise, and the resistance will grow, which means max. the speed is less.
              IMHO, it is better to place the entire BC in a strong TPK (not rechargeable from a boat) inside a light body, around the circumference (side segments). Reduce the diameter of the robust body. In total, the entire nasal volume was given to the SAC. Minus a compartment with weapons + smaller diameter of a strong case = radically reduce the sealed volume and, accordingly, the mass of parasitic structures that are not needed for anything other than to ensure this tightness, and this is the lion's share of the mass of the traditional layout. This simple technique solves the main problem of submarine design, a narrow mass-volume corridor of the possible. Those. for example, we in this case greatly benefit from the mass of the payload. Or we can do a much, much deeper dive for the same mass. Or put really impervious bulkheads for high pressure, and not the dubious compromise that stands on all our boats. And the price of the issue is just the adoption of the concept of external, sealed TPK for torpedoes.
              1. 0
                13 July 2021 02: 31
                Initially, in the middle of the text, I caught myself thinking that to become in fact not ice .... anticipation of comments, only 43 ... I think not enough, BUT what high-quality, most of the pluses and your idea appeals to me very much ... I will be a few more respected people
                trample on. I'll look again tomorrow.
              2. 0
                25 August 2021 14: 59
                Quote: Passing by
                IMHO, it is better to place the entire BC in a strong TPK (not rechargeable from a boat) inside a light hull, in a circle (side segments)


                Agree. I thought it myself, though not a sailor. Recharge with containers only at the base. The container itself must withstand the pressure of water, and in a light body there is only a hole cover and guides for the container, well, and a connector.
        3. 0
          28 September 2021 18: 38
          There are small torpedoes. Radiophotonics is being developed now. Maybe it will be possible to apply it here too ...
      3. 0
        12 July 2021 17: 18
        the fact of the matter is that there will be almost no teeth ... for the size ... If they actually do up to 1 tons, then we will get an expensive reactor, the cruising range is good and very weak shock capabilities, because more than 000 torpedoes are unlikely to fit there / missiles, even from Varshavyanka, which fits only 8 units 2,5 times more ... Then either you need to make an insert a la Cupid, or take the Varshavyanka / Lada hull and remake it under the atom ..
    2. 0
      12 July 2021 11: 58
      I sucked it out of my finger) it is not clear only what are the advantages in a small appl
  2. 0
    12 July 2021 06: 19
    At the same time, the opposite scenario is also possible, in which the multipurpose small submarine has no future.
    Rave. Of course it does. As a more economical option for multipurpose large nuclear submarines, let alone an export potential ... but even India.
    1. +5
      12 July 2021 06: 25
      There is only one "but": a nuclear power plant, well, does not fit into small dimensions. So far, only the French have been able to build the smallest nuclear powered submarine, but they have not managed to shrink into the 1500 tons of displacement described by the author, although they have tried their best to minimize the size ...
      1. 0
        12 July 2021 09: 26
        Here, most likely, the developments on Poseidon will be used. And it's not very big.
  3. +2
    12 July 2021 07: 08
    Several times less than a standard MAPL, which means autonomy and ammunition load will also be several times less ...
    If they find a way to also (several times) reduce the cost of construction and operation, then why not. After all, they will not need 5-6, but much more.
    But if it costs even half as much as the hypothetical 955K project, then I would still choose the latter ...
  4. -14
    12 July 2021 07: 08
    Nowadays it is customary to restore the production of all kinds of junk. You can, for example, start riveting Pikes from the Second World War. To begin with, you can remove one of them from the pedestal.
  5. +5
    12 July 2021 10: 06
    The author did not hit his face in the dirt and brilliantly confirmed his reputation by issuing another article about nothing.

    The smallest nuclear submarine ever commissioned, the American NR-1. Underwater displacement of 400 tons.
    1. +6
      12 July 2021 10: 33
      How many moves did she have, 3 knots?

      Was she considered a fighting one? She even has a research index
      1. +2
        12 July 2021 12: 00
        How long did she have

        4,5 knots above water, 3,5 knots underwater. The boat was, in fact, a search and rescue boat.
        It’s not about whether it was combat or research, but about what minimum displacement the nuclear submarine could be.
    2. +2
      12 July 2021 23: 39
      Quote: Undecim
      The author did not hit his face in the dirt and brilliantly confirmed his reputation by issuing another article about nothing.
      This is his strong point ...
  6. Hog
    +2
    12 July 2021 11: 35
    Well, if its task is to protect bases and patrol in the coastal zone, then the nuclear power plant is clearly unnecessary here, an unnecessary rise in price and complexity of the design without visible advantages.
  7. -2
    12 July 2021 15: 45
    Everything rests on the human factor. With a trained and motivated crew, a small, inconspicuous submarine can become a miracle weapon. For two or three months, lie on the bottom and wait for the command to ascend and launch, no AI can stand it, it will go crazy)))).
    1. +2
      12 July 2021 17: 23
      wassat What will you do on a small boat for 2-3 months? and yes .. what's the point of lying on the bottom?
      1. 0
        12 July 2021 18: 30
        They will return in principle by combat coordination, practicing routine and emergency actions, self-education and dreams. Lying on the bottom - it makes sense to retaliate, completely devaluing the common sense of the first strike.
        1. +5
          12 July 2021 18: 47
          During the Great Patriotic War, we had not the largest fleet of coastal submarines of the "M" class. Two, on the last series there are four torpedo tubes, otherwise everything is in the area below the performance characteristics in class. The only indisputable advantage is the possibility of transportation by rail and inland waterways.
          Without false modesty, the Malyutki fought, but because of their truncated characteristics, they simply could not prove themselves. Probably it was worse only in the squadron "P", but here, in principle, a different story.
          So, the rejection of the mosquito fleet, including the submarine, is natural. If you have money, you need to build full-fledged ships. A lot of small sabotage and security work.
          1. +1
            12 July 2021 22: 47
            the mosquito fleet has the right to life, but as an addition to the main series and, most importantly, it must be sane in terms of performance characteristics
          2. 0
            15 July 2021 07: 32
            But if you bothered to divide the total tonnage of enemy ships sunk by the Babies, by the total displacement of all the Babies, and then take and compare this figure with a similar figure for Katyushas, ​​Esok, Shchuk and Leninets, then you would be surprised to find that it was the Malyutka that was sunk Most of all - that is, they were the most effective submarines!
  8. +2
    12 July 2021 16: 34
    Desire to cut.
    The nuclear one will not have any advantages of diesel-electric submarines (noiselessness in the first place, the relative cheapness (in comparison with nuclear ones) and nuclear operational safety) and at the same time will not be able to take advantage of the nuclear (high autonomy is not particularly critical in coastal seas.
    What you can't imagine if you can't make VNEU or boats with lithium batteries.
    1. -1
      12 July 2021 17: 24
      not quite so, we are talking about the possibilities of producing a large series of MAPLs, which will allow working according to the scheme "expensive and cool-ash + cheap and many-mapl a la Gorgon" .. but here, in any case, we should talk about sizes 2,5 -5 thousand tons
  9. 0
    12 July 2021 18: 45
    But how will people live in it? Modern technologies allow drones to be small.
  10. +1
    12 July 2021 19: 06
    A small torpedo nuclear submarine is definitely needed. It is necessary to change "Pike-B" with something. "Ash" is too redundant and few in number for such a problem as the protection of their own SSBNs, reconnaissance and hunting for enemy SSBNs. And the last about 20.
  11. +2
    12 July 2021 19: 15
    German submarines Type IX. Displacement 1200T, armament: 6 TA, 22 Torpedoes. 1x105mm 1-2 37mm, 2-4 20mm. Range on the surface: 13800 miles. If the Germans were able to stuff so much weapons and equipment into the 1200T, why do submarines with a large displacement now have less ammunition?

    American submarines BALAO. Displacement 1500t. armament 10TA, 24 Torpedoes. 1x127mm 1-2 40mm, 2-4 20mm. The range on the surface is 11000 miles.

    Why did I give all these numbers? And in order that it is not clear to me how the Germans and Americans crammed one and a half times more BC into diesel boats 70 years ago than they are now installing on modern boats. The same Warsaw women, for example, whose displacement is several times greater? Can you tell me what they say, sonars and radars? Yes. but then they also existed. And they did not differ in lightness and small size. Moreover, the engines have since become both lighter and more economical (they eat less diesel). Batteries have also become lighter and more spacious since then. So modern submarines and nuclear submarines must carry many times more weapons than Type IX or Balao. Computers? Well, they don't weigh much. Sonar radars? Well, I strongly doubt that modern sonar weighs much more than the total weight of Sonar Balao + weight 127mm + BK for 127mm.

    However, I do not understand at all what the displacement of all modern ships is doing. You look at the armament of the same Allie Burke. You do arithmetic (add up the weight, Artillery + BC, + TA, + VLS PU + BC for them), and you realize that this is at times less in weight than weapons on the same Cleveland or Brooklyn or Myoko / Takao. It seems that the engines have become lighter and more economical. It seems like ships should carry MORE weapons, but they carry less. And yes, there were also Radars on Cleveland (far from light and small). And the same Cleveland, unlike Allie Burke, also wore armor. As I read that hitting the RCC Harpoon or there Exocet in the armor belt or the citadel or even the tower of the Cleveland main battery will not do much harm. But the hit of a pair of 155 HE shells in Burke completely paralyzes him.

    Recently there was an analysis of a German destroyer, which, with the same displacement as a German light cruiser during the Great Patriotic War, carries scanty weapons ... Even the article was called something like "Empty ship"

    I calculated the weight of the weapons and ammunition on the American destroyer Allen M. Sumner, and figured out how much modern weapons can be shoved into the same weight and more than slightly went nuts. In a ship of 3500 tons of full displacement, you can load so much weapons that it will be slightly inferior to Allie Burke. And this is without the fact that the engines are now 10-15 percent lighter, and 10-15 percent more economical than they were in 1944. Let me remind you that the best and most expensive engines are not installed on a destroyer (by and large a consumable boat). And many modern destroyers and frigates, by and large, will not be able to keep up with Sumner, Sumner developed 34 knots, but Fremies Fremm, for example, 27 knots, a berk has 30 knots,

    I just do not understand where modern shipbuilders spend their displacement. Radar / sonar? But also on Sumner there were radars and sonars with a total weight of over 10000 kg. SC, SG, QGA, MK37 control system with MK12 radar. Total weight per 10000kg.

    I could not find how much the AN / SQS-53C Sonar weighs except that "the electronics on it are two times lighter than on the AN / SQS53B. But the UMS 4110 CL sonar, from the Italian PLO FREMM frigates, weighs about 10 tons with all the equipment. Sonar The QGA from Sumner weighed 2500 kg, that is, it was not weightless either.

    In short, I just don't understand where modern shipbuilders throw their displacement. It is expensive to carry emptiness.

    And about a light nuclear submarine. The French make their own Barracuda. As far as I have found, its noise will be 1/1000 of the Redoubt class noise. It will be interesting to look at the results. By the way, one of the options for the barracuda is not nuclear, but in addition to the 6TA, 12 vertical launch shafts were installed on it for various anti-ship missiles.

    the advantages of light nuclear submarines are that they do not need huge shipyards, they do not need super-powerful nuclear reactors. Apparently, the noise level will also be lower. But it will be known when the Barracudas go to sea.
    1. 0
      9 August 2021 10: 39
      The immersion depth of modern submarines is an order of magnitude greater than that of the old, those times. This requires an increase in the mass of a solid body and its power. The increase in hull weight requires an increase in the internal volume to maintain the submarine's buoyancy. Hence the increase in displacement.
      The sailing range of surface ships has increased. And this is an increase in the volume of fuel tanks and, as a consequence, also an increase in displacement.
  12. -4
    12 July 2021 19: 15
    Yes, do not care what to build, the main thing is faster! War is not far off, the enemy is on the alert!
  13. 0
    12 July 2021 19: 41
    Too small for long voyages, and taking into account the reactor, the price will be appropriate, the question arises, why is it better then diesel-electric submarines? Who knows, please tell me.
    1. 0
      12 July 2021 22: 51
      Everything is new, well-forgotten old. Google: order no. 512, project 651E.VSpom.AU was used to charge batteries and was very compact. You can also google: VAU-6, or "Dollezhal's egg".
  14. +2
    12 July 2021 20: 38
    Taking into account the domestic experience in this area, it can be expected that the displacement of the Gorgon will exceed 200-250 tons, but will not go beyond 1000-1500 tons. For comparison, the Serval project envisages reaching the level of 1450 tons.

    Thus, the "Gorgon" will be lighter than all existing submarines of the main classes, including the diesel "Varshavyanka" and the special nuclear-powered "Losharik". Accordingly, such a boat will be inferior to them in terms of main dimensions. The length of a promising nuclear submarine can be estimated at 50-60 m, diameter - no more than 5-7 m.

    Not understood...

    With a diameter of 5 m and a reduced length of 50 m - already 1000 tons comes out ... Which 200?
    Sincerely
  15. 0
    14 July 2021 06: 23
    Quote: Passing by
    IMHO, it is better to place the entire BC in a strong TPK (not rechargeable from a boat) inside a light body, in a circle (side segments).

    there is a nuance. Often torpedo shafts are used as gateways for the divers mentioned in this article. In your version - as I understand it, it will be necessary to make a separate gateway, which is stressful for a baby boat.
  16. 0
    15 July 2021 14: 42
    The Gorgon project is based on the original concept of a small multipurpose nuclear submarine.


    What for? Ammunition for three torpedoes and two missiles? I would understand intelligence and sabotage in such dimensions. But multipurpose?
  17. 0
    17 July 2021 07: 22
    There was already a small boat with yaeu, a goldfish, a titanium hull, a large automation, a small crew, to recreate, while improving, and voila
  18. -1
    17 July 2021 14: 27
    Why have we started calling their weapons after demons lately -
    gorgon, lepricon, etc.
    What is it for...
    1. 0
      10 August 2021 19: 12
      Schaub scare the enemy. Submarine "Tuna" is not scary. The Messenger of Cthulhu submarine is much cooler. And Gothic. So the sailor will tell you "I, they say, serve on the missile cruiser" Ladoga "(for example), well, it is clear, the cruiser is named after a large lake. Well, kva? ". Or there is the Iku-Turso nuclear submarine. Well, this is a completely different calico, comrade. Firstly, it is GREAT. Secondly, there is psychological warfare. Intimidating names, in itself, affect the mood of the personnel of both the ship and its enemy.
  19. 0
    18 July 2021 21: 52
    How tired of these projects already!
  20. +1
    29 July 2021 20: 55
    If the boat is nuclear, then it can operate anywhere in the world's oceans. And if this is so, then its ammunition should be sufficient to deliver a powerful blow to the enemy. This means that making a boat with a displacement of 1 thousand tons is simply stupid, as it will be an atomic underwater mosquito and, moreover, it is still expensive. And for normal ammunition, a displacement of about 3 thousand tons will also be required.