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"Visor" for the tank. New means of protection T-72B3

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Tanks T-72B3 Taman division on Red Square, May 9, 2021. You can consider two sets of dynamic protection on the forehead and the roof of the tower


Recently it became known that a new additional means of protection has been developed for Russian main battle tanks. The unit of a characteristic shape is intended to increase the stability of the upper projection of the armored vehicle - which is necessary in light of the main trends in the development of anti-tank weapons. So far, only individual combat vehicles have received such products, but their widespread introduction is planned in the future.

Visor on the landfill


On June 17, the press service of the Ministry of Defense reported that regular tank firing took place at the Kadamovsky training ground (Rostov region). This time, the commanders of the combined arms formations of the Southern Military District demonstrated their skills. The event was personally led by the commander of the Southern Military District, Army General Alexander Dvornikov.

The skills of general tankers were tested using standard combat vehicles of the T-72B3 type of the latest modernization. And it is with this technique that the most interesting is connected news... Previously unknown structures were installed on the turrets of the tanks, outwardly resembling a light roof or awning. At the same time, these details were not mentioned or explained in the message of the Ministry of Defense.

On June 18, Rossiyskaya Gazeta clarified the situation. Citing a source in the Ministry of Defense, she wrote that the new product is a means of additional protection for the tank. The official name of such a device has not been disclosed, but its nickname given by the military is given - "the sun visor".


Tank T-72B3 with installed "sun canopy"

This "visor" is necessary to increase the level of protection of the tank against threats in the upper hemisphere. Some modern anti-tank guided missiles and loitering ammunition seek to hit an armored object in the least protected projection, i.e. from above. An unusual "visor" should exclude a direct hit of ammunition in the turret and thereby dramatically reduce the likelihood of hitting the tank itself. How exactly it works and on what principles it works - it has not yet been reported.

The photographs from the Kadamovsky test site simultaneously show up to three tanks with original protection. According to "RG", they will not be the last. The Ministry of Defense said that in the near future such devices will begin to equip other T-72s of the Russian army. The details of this upgrade have not yet been specified.

External simplicity


Official photographs from the Ministry of Defense allow us to consider the "visor" in some detail. Outwardly, this product is not very complex - it has a fairly simple design and probably does not include any high-tech components. However, it is possible that there are any original solutions that cannot be noticed during an external examination.

The "sun shade" is made on a metal frame made of a corner. Four racks are attached directly to the carrier tank turret. Two are placed on the roof behind the gun mask; at a short distance from each other. Two more are in the stern and spaced as wide as possible. The racks have a rectangular frame with two tiers. Its front is below the back. There are grilles inside the frame, on which a kind of soft covering is laid. It probably uses Kevlar or some other similar material.


The product is intended for protection against anti-tank weapons. This indicates that the "visor" acts as a screen that causes premature operation of the cumulative warhead. It should also be expected that such a design is able to reduce the negative impact of ammunition with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead.

Another protective function of the product is reflected in its unofficial name. The "visor" is located above the tower and literally protects it from the sun. It reduces the heating of the crew compartment, which does not have an air conditioner, and thereby improves the working conditions of the crew. Also, an additional "roof" is able to protect the crew from rain.

Security enhancement


In the latest modernization projects for the T-72 MBT, a number of additional protection means of various kinds were introduced. Due to this, in particular, it was possible to significantly increase the resistance of the side projection to the main threats. At the same time, insufficient attention has been paid to the upper projection. The new project takes this problem into account and offers a convenient solution.

The upper projection of the T-72B3 tank can be divided into three main sections, formed by different units. They differ in their design, and also have different protection characteristics and are subject to various threats.


The front of the projection falls on the forehead of the body. It has a combined armor on the basis of steel and non-metallic elements, on top of which the Kontakt-5 dynamic protection units are installed. Such a defense complex is designed for shelling from the front hemisphere, but it is also capable of effectively resisting attacks from above.

The forehead of the tower, as in the case of the hull, has a combined protection. However, the roof is solid and not very thick. The forehead and cheekbones, as well as a limited section of the roof of the tower, are additionally equipped with two types of DZ blocks. At the same time, a significant part of the upper projection of the roof remains without additional protection.

The aft part of the upper projection of the MBT is formed by the roof of the engine compartment. It is also made of armor plates, but most of its area is occupied by a variety of hatches and grilles, which significantly reduce resistance to major threats. At the same time, no additional protection against attacks from above in the stern is provided - although the side projection and the rear sheet are reinforced with lattice screens.

Thus, the "sun shade" covers one of the important, but insufficiently protected areas of the upper projection of the tank. It enhances the overall defense of the tower, i.e. fighting compartment with a gun, shells and crew. This reduces the likelihood of hitting vital elements and disabling the tank. At least a single hit will not be able to fundamentally affect the combat effectiveness, and the T-72B3 will continue to complete the task.

Protection prospects


Earlier, the Ministry of Defense or organizations of the defense industry did not report anything about a promising "visor" for tanks. The finished product was publicly demonstrated only a few days ago, and immediately on the MBT of one of the combat units. This may mean that in the recent past such a product passed all the necessary tests and was put into service - in an atmosphere of secrecy.


A logical consequence of this are reports of the planned equipping of other tanks of the Russian army with "roofs". Given the sufficient simplicity of such protection, it can be expected that at least most combatant T-72B3s will receive it, and the production processes will not stretch out for many years. This means that the combat qualities of existing tanks will improve in the short term.

Thus, right now we can observe another step in the development and modernization of the old, but not outdated, T-72 tank. Not so long ago, another comprehensive modernization of this machine took place, affecting a number of key components. Now the tank receives a new product that complements the previously installed protective equipment.

It is quite possible that these measures will begin a larger program of modernization of various armored vehicles. Following the T-72B3, other tanks and armored vehicles of other classes can receive "sun visors". Almost all armored combat vehicles of relatively old models that are in service with our army can be considered potential carriers of such equipment. Initially and after the latest upgrades, they may have an insufficient level of protection against attacks from above - and now this problem is getting a decent solution.
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  1. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 22 June 2021 18: 05
    +74
    This is an autonomous non-volatile shadow generator with an optional pre-detonation function for warheads of ammunition attacking a tank in the upper hemisphere.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 22 June 2021 18: 24
      -4
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      This is an autonomous non-volatile shadow generator with an optional pre-detonation function for warheads of ammunition attacking a tank in the upper hemisphere.

      Is this instead of KAZ?
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 22 June 2021 19: 05
        +15
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Is this instead of KAZ?


        Not. In addition to it.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 23 June 2021 23: 45
          +1
          Not. In addition to it.
          a special version for the highest generals, so that the sun does not warm up or bake through the open hatch !? soldier
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 24 June 2021 11: 37
            +2
            Quote: Intruder
            Not. In addition to it.
            a special version for the highest generals, so that the sun does not warm up or bake through the open hatch !? soldier

            Alas, your joke was not appreciated.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 24 June 2021 14: 55
              -2
              Alas, your joke was not appreciated.
              And, well, there is such a thing !? Not cold and not hot, which is not appreciated ... laughing
        2. Alexander Matveev_3
          Alexander Matveev_3 24 June 2021 14: 24
          0
          yes yes in addition. and remind on what such a tank in combat units have already been put AZ?
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 24 June 2021 22: 28
            -2
            Quote: Alexander Matveev_3
            yes yes in addition. and remind on what such a tank in combat units have already been put AZ?

            Would you like it to appear today, and tomorrow in all combat units? Or do you think that for every innovation, a ready-made enterprise for its production is already standing and waiting for an order for production? Naive.
            1. Alexander Matveev_3
              Alexander Matveev_3 5 July 2021 13: 07
              0
              Innovation? T55 with the Drozd system sends you ardent greetings from the sunny 83 years!
      2. Professor
        Professor 22 June 2021 20: 36
        -2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Is this instead of KAZ?

        A budget option.
        1. Liam
          Liam 22 June 2021 20: 53
          +16
          Quote: Professor
          A budget option

          Rather low-budget
          1. Professor
            Professor 23 June 2021 06: 33
            .
            What is really there ... Beggarly. Ala Syria.
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 23 June 2021 08: 39
              +7
              Why pay more if it works like that? Moreover, it also covers the car from the sun and rain.
              1. Vadim F
                Vadim F 23 June 2021 09: 00
                +4
                does it work exactly? already experienced? For some reason I think that this visor is suitable for raising the mood of WTO operators.
              2. Professor
                Professor 23 June 2021 09: 06
                .
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Why pay more if it works like that? Moreover, it also covers the car from the sun and rain.

                No, it does not work. Yes, covers from the sun.
                1. Konnick
                  Konnick 23 June 2021 09: 22
                  +12
                  No, it does not work. Yes, covers from the sun.

                  Why does not it work? Works on new physical principles of "springing" - the warhead of the ATGM hits the visor, the visor deforms and throws the missile back onto the launcher wassat
                  And so there are not enough sun loungers, there is a place in the back ... said the commander of the Southern Military District, General of the Army Alexander ... janitors ...
                  1. Per se.
                    Per se. 23 June 2021 10: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Konnick
                    the visor deforms and throws the missile back onto the launcher
                    Humor, irony, sarcasm ... Then it's better to put a trampoline above the tower.
                    In general, if the "Javelin" is equipped with a thermal homing head, why can't you shoot with heat traps when there is a threat of attack, as is done in aviation?

                    Plus a complex like "Cape", which reduces the thermal signature.
                    1. Konnick
                      Konnick 23 June 2021 10: 12
                      +13
                      how is it done in aviation

                      Not everything is so simple, even the appearance of the target and the point of impact are processed in Javelin's memory, you cannot be distracted by traps. But in principle, if you change the view from the top with a visor .... it can and will help. "While the enemy is studying the map of the area, we change this area .... manually. "
                      1. Per se.
                        Per se. 23 June 2021 12: 46
                        +3
                        Quote: Konnick
                        But in principle, if you change the view from above with a visor ...
                        Then, coupled with the commentary from Alexey (Aleks TV), this is somehow so (such a canopy will not be demolished).
                    2. Professor
                      Professor 23 June 2021 19: 02
                      -7
                      Quote: Per se.
                      In general, if the "Javelin" is equipped with a thermal homing head, why can't you shoot with heat traps when there is a threat of attack, as is done in aviation?

                      Because the Javelin is not aiming at the heat spot, but at the thermal image of the target.
                      1. Zefr
                        Zefr 23 June 2021 20: 05
                        +3
                        But what if the thermal image is not visible behind the flash?
                        Since the javellin is flying, the location is compromised. Give a blinding flash and move a couple of meters
                    3. English tarantas
                      English tarantas 24 June 2021 16: 23
                      +1
                      Because smoke grenades are shot with special reflectors, through which neither IR radiation nor a laser beam passes. They also did it in the union.
                  2. Intruder
                    Intruder 23 June 2021 23: 46
                    0
                    the warhead of the ATGM hits the visor, the visor deforms and throws the missile back onto the launcher
                    Shaw !? Again trampolines, a new version from Izhevsk or directly from Roscosmos !? laughing
                    1. Alexander Markov
                      Alexander Markov 24 June 2021 10: 41
                      +1
                      A rocket flies up and sees a harvester, turns around and flies home.
              3. Aleks tv
                Aleks tv 23 June 2021 10: 22
                +13
                Quote: Herman 4223
                Why pay more if it works like that? ...


                Hello.

                I doubt it "works".
                This canopy is not bad at all for training and field activities as protection from the sun and rain in summer. And even then they manage to demolish.))
                For some reason, I remembered the "gut" for heating in the winter at the tankodrome. A tarpaulin pipe was pulled from one of the radiator grilles into the pallet ejection hatch.

                In combat conditions:
                Pros:
                - theoretical protection against shock nuclei.
                Cons:
                - low situational awareness in the upper hemisphere.
                - Difficult embarkation, disembarkation and loading of the BC.
                - in case of combat contact, there is almost a complete likelihood that the racks will be demolished or broken - and this is fraught with overlapping sights and inability to leave the car.
                - it is not possible to fire from NSVT (Korda). About "air" - and so it was not possible, and now for ground targets - figs. Racks limit sectors. Even if you turn the installation forward by 30-0, the commander's TKN-3 will look ... BACK (locking the middle and inner shoulder straps of the commander's cupola). And this is definitely nonsense.
                ........
                In general, the disadvantages for combat work with interest, plus one and questionable.
                For study only. "Privileges and hardships" will be a little less)).
                Toka will still "carry" him to the bathhouse. I believe in my Mazut, they are "capable" guys.))
                yes
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 23 June 2021 12: 13
                  +4
                  This canopy is not bad at all for training and field activities as protection from the sun and rain in summer.

                  All of you, in my opinion, somehow did not carefully read the article.
                  This time their skills were demonstrated combined-arms commanders Southern Military District.
                  .

                  Skills tank generals were tested using standard combat vehicles of the T-72B3 type of the latest modernization
                  1. Aleks tv
                    Aleks tv 23 June 2021 12: 38
                    +1
                    ... You all, in my opinion, somehow did not carefully read the article.

                    No, carefully.))
                    As for the generals and "umbrellas", there are enough jokes in the comments.))
                2. Intruder
                  Intruder 23 June 2021 23: 51
                  +3
                  In combat conditions:
                  Pros:
                  - theoretical protection against shock nuclei
                  Even if the ballistic protection is based on: "Kevlar" (a) (aramid fibers) against a modern-type impact core, with a speed of 1,78 - 3,5 km / s, are you kidding me !? Only if, in the theory of probability and only there .., in a spherical vacuum !!! bully
                  1. Aleks tv
                    Aleks tv 24 June 2021 08: 10
                    +4
                    ... are you kidding me !?

                    Good day.

                    More precisely, I joke a little.
                    Well, it's the same:
                    - the latest invention,
                    - created in secrecy mode.

                    For the second day I don’t know from which point I want to laugh more, but you are asking about seriousness ...))
                    .........
                    With the cons, he wrote seriously.
                3. English tarantas
                  English tarantas 24 June 2021 16: 27
                  -3
                  And in general, judging by the area covered, it will not protect from a blow from above. A small part is closed, and if the ammunition does not fly at a very large angle, it will simply fall below the visor, it will also not help from the roof strips, it can fly between the visor and the turret roof, or it may even hit the roof of the vehicle or the control compartment
              4. Alexander Matveev_3
                Alexander Matveev_3 24 June 2021 14: 25
                0
                are you sure?
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 25 June 2021 08: 19
                  -1
                  If it gets into the visor, there will be a premature actuation of the shaped charge. It will completely protect from shells flying at a steep angle. If, of course, this is generally a means of protection, and not an umbrella in the literal sense.
        2. Romario_Argo
          Romario_Argo 23 June 2021 15: 22
          +1
          not like a budget - a penny visor from Javelin
          $ 50 vs $ 240000
      3. Pivot
        Pivot 22 June 2021 23: 04
        -2
        This is so that the infantry is not hit with KAZ fragments,
      4. English tarantas
        English tarantas 24 June 2021 16: 20
        +1
        No, instead of KAZ we have DZ, thick armor (which some tanks do not have) and they cope no worse. But in the matter of protecting the roof, the Merkava can only boast of shed dimensions, you look the tanker won't hurt, or does the bale protect you from being hit from above?
      5. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 27 June 2021 18: 35
        0
        * Is this instead of KAZ? *
        Visited a similar question.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 22 June 2021 21: 36
      +9
      Quote: Bashkirkhan
      This is an autonomous non-volatile shadow generator with an optional pre-detonation function for warheads of ammunition attacking a tank in the upper hemisphere.

      Controversial decision. The main advantage of the T-72 is its low silhouette, maneuverability and speed.
      KAZ "umbrella" will not replace.
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 23 June 2021 06: 40
        +2
        I doubt this umbrella will take root. And even more so in the forests of the middle zone.
        1. Azim77
          Azim77 23 June 2021 09: 11
          +6
          This development is most likely for export to BV, especially to Syria. It's hot there, there are drones on top, and so on.
      2. Vitaly Petrov_3
        Vitaly Petrov_3 23 June 2021 16: 25
        0
        Here is just a silhouette .. Visually more, aiming will be higher, and there .. draft !!! fellow
    3. Technical engineer
      Technical engineer 23 June 2021 17: 58
      +1
      That's what I wrote about. That from the famous Javelin there is a simple penny protection - a screen above the roof. It can be made foldable so that it does not interfere on the march. Retractable behind the tower like in a limousine, or in the form of two halves folded to the left and right of the tower. Electro, hydro, pneumatic drive will allow you to do this without leaving the tank. And the size variations even cover the MTO. Although for MTO it is enough to weld a horizontal sheet behind the tower.
      1. Eroma
        Eroma 27 June 2021 08: 58
        0
        You need to put a radar and a manipulator with a tennis racket, such a system will hit the guns, etc. towards the enemy, thereby increasing firepower! lol
        Well, in bad weather, or in the heat, the manipulator can hold a folding umbrella (like in a cafe) over the tank

        I somehow expected to see some gadgets from Armata at T72BZ, like Afganita
  2. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 22 June 2021 18: 27
    +9
    Someone is trying to convince that this canopy and the anti-cumulative on-board shield are about the same thing? Ridiculous. Then why not drape the whole tank in a circle.
    1. Borik
      Borik 22 June 2021 19: 30
      +11
      After all, it has been said, A visor from the sun so that your head does not get hot. Now the heat is on the street, especially in the southern regions (Sarcasm). So it was our (Kulibins) who came up with this canopy after Baku showed the whole world how to deal with armored vehicles. Then you need to cover the whole tank with a canopy. And so it turns out some kind of umbrella from the sun 2x2.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 22 June 2021 19: 45
        +9
        also protects from the rain.
        wings will soon be welded ... from old IL2 - from storage. a "flying tank" is better than a crawling one.
      2. Shiden
        Shiden 22 June 2021 20: 20
        +4
        Do not touch Kulibin's idea spied on the Indians pure plagiarism.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 22 June 2021 22: 21
          +3
          The idea was on Leo ... they put umbrellas there
      3. lucul
        lucul 22 June 2021 21: 10
        -4
        (Sarcasm).

        But I'm very interested in the top view (from a drone) of a tank with such a visor. ))))
        1. Pike
          Pike 23 June 2021 07: 49
          +15
          Quote: lucul
          (Sarcasm).

          But I'm very interested in the top view (from a drone) of a tank with such a visor. ))))

          There is an inscription on top: "Your advertisement can be here"
      4. moody
        moody 22 June 2021 21: 56
        +6
        Maybe there are a lot of birds flying on that training ground, but they get scared from the shots ... Well, from the sun too.
      5. Old tanker
        Old tanker 23 June 2021 06: 47
        +8
        Well, the generals were shooting, and now it's hot. So we used the Indian version. So this is not our Kulibin's idea.
    2. garri-lin
      garri-lin 22 June 2021 19: 47
      +11
      Kryzheboi are weaker than the rest of the ATGM. Most. Plus there are "long arm" submunitions with an impact cannon. It will be effective against them. Especially against kernels.
      1. JD1979
        JD1979 22 June 2021 23: 36
        -1
        Quote: garri-lin
        Plus there are "long arm" submunitions with an impact cannon. It will be effective against them. Especially against kernels.

        Yeah, especially against cores, the efficiency at the error level is non-zero.
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 23 June 2021 01: 02
          +6
          A huge disadvantage of cores is their instability. A screen of 10 percent of the diameter and the subsequent void larger than the diameter reduce the armor penetration several times.
          1. JD1979
            JD1979 23 June 2021 11: 16
            -2
            Quote: garri-lin
            A huge disadvantage of cores is their instability. A screen of 10 percent of the diameter and the subsequent void larger than the diameter reduce the armor penetration several times.

            A huge disadvantage is that you put these kernels on your umbrellas on the roof of the tank))) in the vast majority of cases, they will not get there)))
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 23 June 2021 11: 55
              +1
              Just the same, most of the ammunition focused on the defeat in the roof is a shock core.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 23 June 2021 15: 19
                -1
                Actually, this is an ATGM of the 3rd and 4th generation with a tandem cumulative warhead.
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin 23 June 2021 22: 32
                  +1
                  Name at least one representative of the 4th generation ATGM in service.
              2. JD1979
                JD1979 23 June 2021 22: 34
                0
                Quote: garri-lin
                Just the same, most of the ammunition focused on the defeat in the roof is a shock core.

                damn ... security question. What is the main channel of the ammunition guidance system using the shock core principle?
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin 23 June 2021 22: 51
                  0
                  Thermal? Laser? Magnetic? Radar? Different. I do not presume to judge the ratio.
                  1. JD1979
                    JD1979 24 June 2021 00: 31
                    -1
                    Quote: garri-lin
                    Thermal? Laser? Magnetic? Radar? Different. I do not presume to judge the ratio.

                    All ammunition or combat elements of cluster systems use the IR channel either as a single channel or as the main channel and additional radar. Where do IR sensors usually point? Right on the hottest part. those. MTO.
                    1. garri-lin
                      garri-lin 24 June 2021 07: 41
                      0
                      Javelin also uses IR and attacks from above. Does he also hit MTO?
      2. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2021 05: 37
        -1
        And how is the thickness of the armor on top related to the thickness in front?
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin 23 June 2021 08: 04
          0
          I did not understand the question. What does the front armor have to do with it?
          1. Avior
            Avior 23 June 2021 09: 18
            -1
            Not front armor but armor ratio
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin 23 June 2021 09: 24
              0
              Well, the armor is not so important, but the distance between the screen and the main armor.
              1. Avior
                Avior 23 June 2021 09: 31
                -2
                Is the armor not important?
                And they only mold it on tanks. The screens were set, just business.
                Not to mention the fact that Javelin has a tandem warhead.
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin 23 June 2021 09: 48
                  0
                  And what has a Javelin with a cumulative to do with if I was talking about roof-breakers based on an impact core?
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 23 June 2021 10: 07
                    -1
                    what exactly?

                    with a cumulative if I talked about roof-breakers based on an impact core

                    Impact core is a compact metal shape resembling a pestle, formed as a result of compression of the metal lining of a shaped charge by its detonation products.
                    1. garri-lin
                      garri-lin 23 June 2021 11: 53
                      +2
                      The cumulative jet and the impact nucleus are completely different things.
                      1. Avior
                        Avior 23 June 2021 12: 48
                        -1
                        You haven't written about jet.
                        ... cumulative

                        Both are manifestations of a shaped charge
                        But in any case, this is an attempt to divert the topic.
                        Initially, it was about the effect of the thickness of the armor
                      2. garri-lin
                        garri-lin 23 June 2021 13: 34
                        +1
                        The original post said that the opinion that this canopy and anti-cumulative on-board screen are similar in efficiency is erroneous. I just said that against most roof-fighters, its effectiveness is equivalent to on-board screens. I didn’t seem to mention thickets anywhere.
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  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 22 June 2021 18: 31
    +17
    Quote: Aaron Zawi

    Is this instead of KAZ?


    It's better for the roof)

    "Is there a control for the shock core? It turns out that there is! The main disadvantage of shock cores of standard ammunition is their destruction after interaction with a steel shield 3-5 mm thick. Behind such a shield, the core is crushed into 25-30 fragments, which are on the barrier installed on distance 100 mm behind the screen, are distributed over an area with a diameter of 300 mm. In this case, the punching effect of the resulting fragments does not exceed 10-12 mm. "
    https://vpk-news.ru/articles/2747
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 22 June 2021 19: 49
      +5
      Most sub-ammunition for MLRS with Impact Core. It turns out good protection. Approximately 60 percent vulnerable aerial projection.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 June 2021 18: 34
    +15
    And that it was possible, touched the option of protecting the crew from the rain. Hindus should demand money for this know-how.
    1. Nazar
      Nazar 22 June 2021 18: 50
      +10
      tralflot1832 - Indeed, the Indians had the same canopies on war elephants ... in general, we are mastering "modern" technologies, we only need one more crew member, with a fan, to drive off flies wassat
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 June 2021 18: 53
        +8
        The photo cannot be uploaded, the Indians for 90 ms, they set up a palanquin with chairs for the generals on the tower. It is not suitable for them to ride in a tank.
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    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 June 2021 00: 27
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Hindus should demand money for this know-how.

      What nonsense? Tank sheds have been used for a long time! I will not say anything about the Indians, but I first learned about the "tank sheds" from the Middle East! If my memory serves me, it was used by Iraqi tankers in one tank division! At that time, NATO aviation used cluster bombs with small-caliber cumulative "bombs" against Iraqi tank units ... tanks on the march in columns were especially vulnerable ... So the tankers came up with the idea ... awnings were used during the march and on "bivouacs" ... By the way, sheds over the engine part of the tanks were somehow noticed in the DPR (in the Donbass) ...
      1. riwas
        riwas 23 June 2021 04: 19
        +9
        Well, yes, they used ISIS in Iraq, but the awnings were significantly larger.


        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 23 June 2021 04: 29
          +2
          Yes ... the awnings were bigger ... but easier (!) ... not such "luxurious canopies"! (Although I saw these too ...)
        2. IT-Prof
          IT-Prof 12 September 2021 21: 05
          0
          This is a barn!
  • Yuri Stepanov
    Yuri Stepanov 22 June 2021 18: 40
    0
    It would be better if they put on a mask of a weapon
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 22 June 2021 18: 58
      -5
      Quote: Yuri Stepanov
      It would be better if they put on a mask of a weapon


      People working in this area have forgotten to ask you exactly.
    2. Usher
      Usher 23 June 2021 03: 26
      +1
      Outplayed the tundra?
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 June 2021 18: 42
    +1
    As the saying goes: the gimmick of invention is cunning.
  • Bumblebee
    Bumblebee 22 June 2021 18: 53
    +5
    Is this something from the Syrian experience? Or new, well-forgotten old (like 1945 from cumulative)
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 23 June 2021 04: 54
      +2
      Quote: Bumblebee
      Is this something from the Syrian experience?

      Anyway, from the Middle East ... I somehow remember that from Iraq ... Then the tankers of one unit put metal sheds on their tanks ... They should serve as a means of reducing the visual recognition of tanks and to protect against small-caliber cumulative submunitions, used in cluster bombs ... Basically, canopies should be used to protect the column on the march and stationary positions ... That is, such "canopies" are, as it were, "analog" of anti-cumulative gratings that have become widespread in recent years!
  • alavrin
    alavrin 22 June 2021 19: 03
    +3
    It is interesting to test this design with "Javelins" (trophy, of course))
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 22 June 2021 19: 50
      -1
      But the Javelin will break through.
  • businessv
    businessv 22 June 2021 19: 17
    +8
    Quote: tralflot1832
    Photo can not be uploaded, Indians on t 90 ms
    Only there is no visor, the chairs are available. smile
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  • smaug78
    smaug78 22 June 2021 19: 41
    +4
    "Visor" for the tank. New means of protection T-72B3
    Not a tank, but generals from the heat.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 June 2021 19: 46
    +13
    KAZ in Indian.
    1. Goto
      Goto 22 June 2021 21: 04
      +3
      Sloped Armor laughing
  • BAI
    BAI 22 June 2021 19: 55
    +5
    This "visor" is necessary to increase the level of protection of the tank against threats in the upper hemisphere.

    The machine gun can now only shoot at ground targets.
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 22 June 2021 20: 38
      +7
      and they didn’t work before, especially by air ..
      1. 113262a
        113262a 22 June 2021 23: 34
        -2
        Come on! And the barrage of fire by the forces of the company is very good! Now that kanesh, at least throw out the ZPU. I used to be proud of the fact that I could reach the edge of the commander's hatch from the ground and disguise the car - just spit. And now it's just a grenade launcher's dream!
        1. Barberry25
          Barberry25 24 June 2021 16: 11
          0
          laughing oh yeah .. forward .. through the asphalt and half a meter of rubble .. mask the tank
  • Roman Efremov
    Roman Efremov 22 June 2021 19: 59
    +11
    In my opinion, it is quite an obvious and expected solution. At first, it will cause a smile for many - but after all, the anti-cumulative grilles at first caused bewilderment.
    1. moody
      moody 22 June 2021 21: 59
      +4
      We would have fixed a couple more corners behind the tower, there would be protection and MTO, at least with the tower directed forward.
    2. 113262a
      113262a 22 June 2021 23: 30
      +5
      For the finished, the expected? Have you ever seen how, after shelling from the same BMP-2, shells fly around from a tank in the form of bulwarks, spare parts boxes, and external tanks? Why, the outer heads of the sights are wrapped in a tube! And here, a palanquin made of water pipes, and pieces of tarpaulin or the same conveyor belt? Figvam for the Ball! But it's cheap! And they won't ask for Trophy ...
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock 23 June 2021 06: 37
        -1
        Quote: 113262
        ? Have you ever seen how, after shelling from the same BMP-2, shells fly around from a tank in the form of bulwarks, spare parts boxes, and external tanks?


        This design is from the arrival from above, and the cannons cannot do that.
        The "husk" is more serious there against guns, but it will not give a 100% guarantee either. Will give nothing.
        And if for 3 kopecks you can halve the probability of defeat, then this is a very effective tool.
        1. 113262a
          113262a 23 June 2021 08: 29
          +1
          After arriving SIDE this structure will no longer exist!
          1. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock 23 June 2021 10: 23
            0
            Quote: 113262
            After arriving SIDE this structure will no longer exist!

            I wonder what will remain of the "birdhouse" with the KAZ, and even of the "Relikt"?
            All protection on the tank before the first arrival.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 23 June 2021 14: 18
        0
        Quote: 113262
        Have you ever seen how, after shelling from the same BMP-2, shells fly around from a tank in the form of bulwarks, spare parts boxes, and external tanks?

        For screens, often no shelling is needed - enough do not fit into the size... Minus the side screen, and if you're lucky - then part of the fenders.
        Now you also have to take into account the size of the height.
        1. 113262a
          113262a 23 June 2021 15: 15
          0
          Well, for the fender liner, the cadet gets a boot in the ear from the instructor, just like a march, after which the dimensions of the car are felt for life. But the regiment is the whole platoon with sledgehammers, crowbars and welding.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2021 15: 23
      0
      The Ministry of Defense does not have money to purchase KAZ, so the solution is appropriate for the poor.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 22 June 2021 20: 33
    +10
    this product is not particularly complex - it has a fairly simple design and probably does not include any high-tech components

    Trampoline?
  • Thorvlobnor IV
    Thorvlobnor IV 22 June 2021 21: 23
    -2
    Now the dug-in T-72 will be easier to find, and the helicopter pilots will have a stronger radar glow.
    1. Barberry25
      Barberry25 22 June 2021 21: 44
      +1
      he already glows
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2021 15: 24
      0
      Tanks and other armored vehicles will be seen from UAVs, as well as from satellites - the height of the equipment no longer plays anything.
      1. Thorvlobnor IV
        Thorvlobnor IV 23 June 2021 16: 10
        0
        Are the tanks now fighting only in the daytime and in good weather? And they are no longer hunted from helicopters with radars?
  • Hey
    Hey 22 June 2021 21: 35
    +5
    This design needs to be improved. Make it like a convertible. Collapsed - unfolded automatically. It is necessary to put it, it is not necessary to remove it, that would not interfere.
  • Michael
    Michael 22 June 2021 22: 06
    +2
    Why not take it into service. By the type of roller shutters, so as not to weld on at all. Hop and not hot under the canopy, op and dropped. I just feel sorry for the tankers, it's hot for them.
    1. Victor Tsenin
      Victor Tsenin 22 June 2021 23: 15
      +3
      Fold back, covering the MTO. In its current form, in my opinion, only a goner could come up with such a so-called. modernization.
      1. Michael
        Michael 26 June 2021 23: 41
        0
        Op and dropped. Only an awning from the Sun, and a little from the rain. Regularly introduce into the package and spend 30 kilograms of weight on the comfort and combat readiness of the crew.
  • 113262a
    113262a 22 June 2021 23: 24
    +3
    For a long time, photos of something similar from Africa and the Maghreb have slipped in print. But those are semi-savage tank builders. No way, and ours kicked. We are playing wild ... And the generals thought that with this palanquin there would be after the first near the burst of the same boot or 82 mines. Not to mention something more weighty. And it's also good that the fan will fly away, and not bend and block the observation devices or be pulled under the turret ring. And how cool it will be, if cho, to leave the car through the standard upper hatches! The more oak trees in the army, you know!
  • iouris
    iouris 22 June 2021 23: 26
    -1
    Trishkin caftan for a tank.
  • puskarinkis
    puskarinkis 22 June 2021 23: 52
    +3
    What is there to discuss !? The generals were firing, but the sun got in the way and the head was on fire! They quickly created conditions for respected people, as well as puzzled potential opponents and partners with new breakthrough defense technologies - they created an "autonomous non-volatile shadow generator with an optional function of preliminary detonation of warheads of ammunition attacking a tank in the upper hemisphere"! Let the adversaries puzzle their brains and spend miles on their answer, and our generals will shoot in the shadows! wassat
    1. iouris
      iouris 23 June 2021 00: 36
      +1
      Photonic reflector?
      1. puskarinkis
        puskarinkis 23 June 2021 01: 31
        +1
        it's a secret!
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 23 June 2021 14: 19
        0
        Quote: iouris
        Photonic reflector?

        And already painted.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 23 June 2021 03: 43
      +2
      Quote: puskarinkis
      nonvolatile shadow generator

      And also an effective reflector of rain, sun rays and shaped-charge projectiles!
  • Revival
    Revival 23 June 2021 00: 20
    -2
    No comments)))
  • Revival
    Revival 23 June 2021 00: 24
    +13
    If this know-how was slapped in Ukraine, then I can imagine the comments, but now it's different)))
    Very useful ..
  • Usher
    Usher 23 June 2021 03: 27
    +1
    An interesting solution against "shock nuclei" should be "decided", if only it is necessary to make it foldable.
  • Avior
    Avior 23 June 2021 05: 32
    +5
    If this is the author's banter over the generals who made an awning over the tower so that the general's head would not be baked by the July sun during the ostentatious demonstration of the generals' closeness to a common soldier and testing their soldier skills, then the author succeeded. And if the author of this whole crap with a "Kevlar" awning over the general's head, ostensibly to protect against a tank defeat, seriously wrote, then it's sad that such articles may appear on VO: ((((
  • Cool but not Igor
    Cool but not Igor 23 June 2021 06: 48
    +3
    You also laugh at the Ukrainians, like they sculpt garbage and pass them off as military products, but now they themselves have taken the same path, there is no money even to put in the Conder, not to start producing new equipment in serious volumes. Ah ... soooo your Russia will rise to a normal standard of living for another 50 years
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 23 June 2021 09: 00
      +5
      I will tell you a secret: the normal standard of living on the planet "Earth" is significantly lower than the average Russian. Or do you mean by "normal" the standard of living of parasites from the "Golden Billion"? So after all, this is less than 10% of humanity (and in Russia, which is typical, 10% of parasites have a very good standard of living compared to the rest, creating material values). And - yes: the screen that triggers the ammunition at some distance from the armor of the tank is an effective means, known since the Second World War.
  • vladcub
    vladcub 23 June 2021 08: 24
    -3
    Kirill, thanks for the helpful material.
    This "visor" hello to Javalin "cheap and angry
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 23 June 2021 08: 42
    0
    If we are talking about protection from cumulative or high-explosive ... well, let's say, but from ammunition in a warhead such as a shock core, it is unlikely to help, unless of course something more technological than a grill and a cape is used, which would be reasonable.
    1. John22
      John22 23 June 2021 10: 19
      +3
      A similar screen - a visor, which only covered most of the tower and MTO, I proposed even following the results of the Afghan war. As well as the side screens of a non-rigid structure instead of rigid grilles. The covering of the canopy is multilayer. But nobody was interested in it. He also offered the LPR militia who feared the Javelins. But there was no response.
      So the proposals are being implemented with difficulty and for a very long time. And the generals are the first to resist. They don't fight in tanks.
  • Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 23 June 2021 08: 44
    0
    This shadow is for the sight, and in the comments today it is completely merry))
  • Mikhail Ya2
    Mikhail Ya2 23 June 2021 09: 00
    0
    The most interesting thing is that Russia does not have an ATGM that attacks the tank from above, in order to check the effectiveness of this craft
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 23 June 2021 10: 27
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Ya2
      Russia does not have an ATGM that attacks a tank from above, to test the effectiveness of this craft

      But there are cluster submunitions with warheads of the shock core type. Easy to check.
      True, the IR sight is more likely to hit the body than the turret.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2021 15: 28
      -1
      Because such an ATGM will cost at least three times more than the 2nd generation - the MO does not want to spend on such things.
  • Denis K
    Denis K 23 June 2021 12: 20
    -1
    Behind the tower, they carry a pipe with a snorkel with them, it would be nice to put a camera on it)), this would raise the view from the tank by 4 meters and would allow shooting from closed positions.

    Well, I am still amazed that the anti-aircraft machine gun on the tower is not equipped with a sky view camera and a drive with automatic opening of fire.
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 23 June 2021 13: 22
    -1
    I am glad that the engineering thought in tank building is not asleep. And then the UAVs completely intimidated the tankers hi
  • Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 23 June 2021 15: 02
    0
    The temperatures of recent days suggest one smart question: do the tanks have air conditioners?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2021 15: 29
      -1
      These tanks have air conditioners in the old 72s and 80s with the 90s there was no kondeya.
  • ZeeD
    ZeeD 23 June 2021 15: 52
    0
    In general, the people are scolding the "visor", like it is not effective. But if you look at it with good magnification, from what it is assembled, you will see that it is welded from a fairly thick corner (anti-cumulative lattice), on which some "bags" or mats with some kind of filler are placed. And after that, it no longer seems that he is so useless.
  • Technical engineer
    Technical engineer 23 June 2021 17: 57
    0
    , ZHYADLjchozuschtsksh3- = u 3sh23
  • Technical engineer
    Technical engineer 23 June 2021 17: 57
    0
    , ZHYADLjchozuschtsksh3- = u 3sh23
  • Intruder
    Intruder 23 June 2021 23: 54
    -1
    This time your skills demonstrated by the commanders of the combined arms formations of the Southern Military District... The event was personally led by the commander of the Southern Military District, General of the Army Alexander Dvornikov.
    This is rather the reality of the appearance of this super-complex of protection of the upper hemisphere! He directly asks to ask - I am the only one, I noticed this phrase !? repeat
  • Igor Vorobyov
    Igor Vorobyov 24 June 2021 10: 08
    +1
    the paver has the same visors
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 24 June 2021 10: 41
    +1
    The next step is to put active armor on the umbrella.
  • Lew
    Lew 24 June 2021 11: 49
    0
    and even with a strong sun it does not bake so well and it is more convenient to shoot))
  • Tramp
    Tramp 24 June 2021 12: 57
    0
    and from drones.
  • Alexander Matveev_3
    Alexander Matveev_3 24 June 2021 14: 23
    0
    As the saying goes, there is no money for AZ, it will put umbrellas. Sad
  • English tarantas
    English tarantas 24 June 2021 16: 16
    0
    The author is easy to recognize. There is news for two paragraphs, there would be no tricky questions to ask regarding the effectiveness of the device, but the author is used to pouring water. Again I could not even read half of it
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 24 June 2021 19: 57
    0
    This is what the "Serdyukov-style reforms" have led to. There is no BTV Academy and the result is on the tank.
  • TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 25 June 2021 19: 55
    0
    Throw minuses at me until the buttons or sensor are erased, but this visor will save the heads of our beloved generals from the sun, and nothing more. Otherwise, there are only minuses from it. Tankers will confirm.
  • Ricochet
    Ricochet 25 June 2021 22: 53
    0
    And what is the pipe behind the tower for?
  • Nobody Nobody
    Nobody Nobody 26 June 2021 18: 40
    0
    Everything is much simpler in my opinion, after the epic videos from Armenia and the sharp tension in Donbass, they blinded at least something in a hurry from drones ammunition.
  • Vit_K
    Vit_K 27 June 2021 01: 31
    0
    This product is "Trampoline-Y". Has a sublimator mode - it raises all combat properties by one level. Plus has a bonus option - a Voltron-type amalgamation, if one of the commanders of the vehicles has the "Supply energy" breastplate, it allows the forces of four crews and four vehicles equipped with Trampoline-Y to launch medium space shuttles, which the chapter spoke about. Roscosmos.
  • Pioneer321
    Pioneer321 27 June 2021 19: 02
    0
    [media = http: //topwar.ru/40776-zaschita-bronirovannyh-mashin-chast-4.html]
    analogues have been created long ago
  • Pioneer321
    Pioneer321 27 June 2021 19: 06
    0
    complex screen protection ZET-1 for T-62 [media = http: //trendymen.ru/lifestyle/art/127433]