The growing military hegemony of the Turkish Republic

“From now on, before you is Turkey, which does not lose either in diplomacy or in war. What our army gains on the fronts, we are not inferior in the negotiations. "

- Head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Turkey Mevlut Cavusoglu. This commentary focused on Operation Peace Spring in northern Syria.

Unfortunately, Turkey to this day remains a big mystery for the Russian information space. Meanwhile, this country is actively aspiring not just for the title of a regional power - it is diligently trying to break into the "major league" of the political space. It is worth recognizing that these attempts are more than successful, and in today's article we will briefly consider the reasons for the sharp increase in Ankara's global influence.

Before proceeding directly to the topic of our conversation, I, as an author, would like to make a small reservation. As usual, many readers of the Military Review are accustomed to seeing the military presence as the main and central component of political influence. Meanwhile, such views and opinions are deeply mistaken - the army is only an element of the system of the general strategy of the state. For its successful use, a whole complex of factors is required, first of all - competent diplomacy and developed analytics. For this reason, I ask you not to look at the article below as the principle of the system of state influence - again, it will only describe its individual element.

It would be worth starting our conversation with one extremely simple and entertaining fact. So, the Republic of Turkey is the second country after the USA by the number of military operations and other military activity abroad. Right now, more than 50 thousand Turkish soldiers and officers are serving outside the borders of their state - and this is no less than almost 15% of the total number of Turkish ground forces.

Since the time of the Ottoman Empire itself, the Turkish armed forces have not had such an extensive, such a global military presence in a number of regions of the world. The ambitious president of the republic, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, sent his troops to Libya and in a matter of weeks changed the course of a long civil war. Turkey has a regular military presence in Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Libya, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Qatar, Mali, Congo, Kosovo, Northern Cyprus, Azerbaijan and a number of other states. The Turkish navy is patrolling the Mediterranean and Aegean Seas, defending Ankara's claims to the region's energy and territorial resources amid escalating tensions with European Union members Greece and Cyprus. The effort is costly.

The republic's military budget, as a percentage of gross domestic product, increased from 1,8% in 2015 to 2,5% in 2018 - and all this despite the overall decline in the pace of the Turkish economy.

Now let's get down to a direct review of the countries in which Turkey flexes the muscles of its military machine.

Libya

Ankara sent significant forces to Libya: the navy and ground forces, as well as the air force, represented by strike squadrons drones. The official goal was simple and transparent: support for a civilian government recognized by the UN.

Subsequent events turned an already difficult conflict into a complex game of European power blocs - Anglo-Turkish and Franco-Egyptian. However, Turkey successfully supported the government of Prime Minister Fayez al-Sarraj in Tripoli and defeated the army of Khalifa Haftar, an extremist marshal supported by France, Italy, Russia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates.

Naturally, the incident had a serious economic motive: first of all, Ankara came to save its business contracts and millions of dollars of investment, which were threatened by the protracted conflict. Having ensured the protection of the Sarraj government, Turkey received political support from Libya as well - the country agreed to conclude a deal on the delimitation of sea borders. This, in turn, strengthened Ankara's claims to the Eastern Mediterranean and gave her substantial arguments in territorial disputes with Greece.

Syria

Turkey's military invasion of Syria is one of Ankara's largest foreign operations since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the end of World War I.

In 2016, Recep Tayyip Erdogan sent troops to Syria to fight both the jihadists of the Islamic State (an organization banned in the Russian Federation) and US-backed Kurdish groups associated with militants of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK is an organization that is fighting to create an autonomous Kurdish region in Turkey). Turkish troops have also taken over cities in northern Syria and created a buffer zone that is currently home to more than 4 million refugees.

Turkey several times expanded the area of ​​the operation, stopping in its expansion only after 2019 - then Ankara reached separate agreements with the United States and the Russian Federation, having received a number of guarantees both on the Kurds and on the Bashar al-Assad regime.

Iraq

Turkey has been using the territory of Iraq for several years to conduct military operations against the infrastructure of the PKK militants in the north of the country. In addition, Ankara has a number of military bases originally set up to support a peacekeeping mission that began back in the 1990s. Initially, they were designed to protect the Kurds themselves, or rather, to prevent clashes between their groups. Over time, control by the United States and Great Britain has weakened, and now Turkey claims that its military presence is a deterrent against PKK terror. Among other things, Ankara is now building a new military facility on the territory of Iraq - it will be a large and well-equipped base.

Qatar

Turkey has been steadily building up its forces in Qatar since Ankara sided with the gas-rich Gulf state in 2017 against a regional alliance led by Saudi Arabia. In addition, Turkey and Qatar are united by the support of the Muslim Brotherhood (an organization banned on the territory of the Russian Federation) - a political movement that equally worries absolutely all monarchies of the Persian Gulf. They see him as a threat to their power - which is quite natural given the Arab Spring uprisings in the early 2010s.

Somalia

In 2017, Turkey opened its largest overseas base located in Mogadishu. Hundreds of Turkish soldiers are training Somali soldiers on ambitious plans to help rebuild this country devastated by decades of clan war and the rebellion of the Islamist group Al-Shabaab (banned in the Russian Federation). Turkey has been strengthening its position in the Horn of Africa country since Erdogan visited it in 2011 - Ankara is active in the fields of education, health, defense and security. In 2015, Ankara pledged to build 10 new homes in the country - with agreements on defense and industry signed. And in 000, Erdogan said that Turkey received an offer from Somalia to participate in geological exploration to find oil off the coast of the country.

Cyprus

In August 2020, the Turkish naval forces accompanied the country's exploration and drilling vessels in the eastern Mediterranean Sea - thus, Ankara defended its claims for energy reserves in the region. Turkey and Cyprus are in conflict over offshore gas reserves around the island, divided since Turkish forces captured the northern third in 1974 following a coup d'état attempt (during which a military junta in Athens sought to unite Cyprus with Greece). Tensions in this conflict are fueled by both Turkey and the separatist Turkish Cypriot government - they were the ones who issued the license for the exploration of natural resources, which, in turn, are claimed by the internationally recognized government in Nicosia. The Republic of Cyprus is a member of the EU and officially has sovereignty over the entire island, while the self-proclaimed state of the Turkish minority in the north is recognized only by Ankara - which, however, does not prevent the latter from having its troops there.

Afghanistan

Turkish troops are in Afghanistan as part of a coalition of more than 50 countries that support the Afghan security forces in their opposition to the Taliban (an organization banned on the territory of the Russian Federation) - an organization of Islamic fundamentalists who want to subjugate the entire country. Ankara has a long history relations with Afghanistan - back in 1928, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk offered military support to the king of the country Amanullah in order to suppress the uprising of radical Islamists who rebelled against the monarch's decision to send Afghan girls to secular Turkey for training.

At the moment, Turkey is the only country in the NATO bloc that retains its military contingent in the country after the withdrawal of the main ISAF forces.

Azerbaijan

The Turkish Armed Forces also have a presence at a military base in Azerbaijan and full access to the air force infrastructure.

The countries hold joint military exercises on a regular basis, tens of thousands of Azerbaijani servicemen are being trained in the territory of the Republic of Turkey. Turkey also pledged to modernize Azerbaijan's military equipment and is supplying the country with a large number of modern weapons - strike drones, missiles, electronic warfare and communications. Turkey provided direct support to Azerbaijan in the conflict with Armenia over Nagorno-Karabakh, after which the countries became even closer - at the moment they signed a number of serious agreements in the field of defense and the military industry.

Among other things, Ankara plans to deploy three of its bases on the territory of this country, including one naval base on the Caspian coast.

Other countries

The Turkish military has been participating in NATO peacekeeping missions in Kosovo and Bosnia and Herzegovina since the war in the 1990s. Ankara skillfully uses this factor, promoting its influence in the region through the local Turkish communities.

Turkey is also active in Sudan - it plans to create centers for the training of the local army since the reign of the ousted dictator Omar al-Bashir. Erdogan promotes the economic interests of the Republic in this North African country - and this is done for a reason. Ankara really wants to ratify the agreement on the lease of Suakin Island for 99 years - this will allow Turkey to build a naval base there and expand its military presence all the way to the Red Sea.

Comments

[A. Privalov]

In Syria. Addition to the above:

Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar, speaking on television in February last year, said that since the beginning of the operation, dubbed "Spring Shield", Turkish troops "neutralized" 2212 Syrian government troops, destroyed 103 tanks, eight helicopters, one drone, and rocket launchers and other military equipment.

[knn54]

The collapse of the USSR in MANY contributed to the strengthening of Turkey.
The weak and warring elite of the Transcaucasian republics.
The defeat of the "Arab arc" (Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Egypt) by the Anglo-Saxons and Co.
Nationalism / militarism, which the government most often resorts to, is tantamount to temporary doping, and its effect will eventually diminish.
We can talk about the patriotism of the Turkish elite, which is important.
And external support from the British, which at any moment can play a cruel joke with the Ottomans.
In Central Asia, their interests may clash with the GENERAL (for now) interests of the SCO-PRC and the Russian Federation.
Then we'll see.
As doctors say, after a second breath, artificial

[TermNachTer]

To tell is to advertise weapons and an army to the owl, the Turks are a lot. Silence about failures and defeats - it spoils the image))) How will the Turks "keep" the Kabul airport, when the country and the city itself will come under the control of the Taliban, I myself wonder? Been in those parts, I understand a little the breadth and depth of the problem. I bought Pepsi and popcorn, I'm ready to watch Erdogan's navel untie)))

[English tarantas]

If NATO leaves Afghanistan, the Turks' navel will definitely untie, again, if the Americans do not help, but they will, because the Chinese are there

[bayard]

Quote: TermNachTER

... I bought pepsi and popcorn, I'm ready to watch Erdogan's navel untie)))

Quote: English tarantass

If NATO leaves Afghanistan, the Turks' navel will definitely untie, again, if the Americans do not help, but they will, because the Chinese are there

And in Afghanistan, the navel may not come loose.
Firstly, the Turks are Muslims and they do not have such a cultural gap as the Americans and even the Russians.
Secondly, the Turks would never have taken such a step without first reaching an agreement with all parties. Including the Taliban. For the Taliban originated from Pakistani intelligence.
Thirdly, the Turks have very good relations with Pakistan, and judging by the materials of the article, they even deploy their military base there (in Pakistan). This means that there will be no problems with organizing logistics through Pakistan.
And Erdogan is VERY in a hurry with the construction of the Istanbul Canal. And he needs a channel not at all in order to launch NATO aircraft carriers through it, but for the sake of organizing traffic on the new Silk Road. From China . Through Azerbaijan and possibly Georgia, and in the long term - through the channel that Nazarbayev lobbied so much, from the Caspian to the Black Sea, for larger vessels than the Volga-Dog channel can.
Turkey took a very long time to decide on all this activity. A new elite was brought up, the army was rearmed, a practically new economy was created, and Turkish diplomacy developed and became very successful.
And England staked on Turkey.
And against the background of this upsurge of our southern neighbor, the Russian Federation in the last 7 years has been demonstrating its inability to resolve its INTERNAL issues. For the so-called "Ukraine" is the root part of the Russian Land and the Russian People ... And the multi-vector circus performances of the Belarusian vatazhka testify only to the fact that he was allowed and allowed to behave this way ... Kazakhstan ... Cossack Stan! ... The indigenous lands of the Russian Cossacks, where immigrants from East Turkestan migrated only in the 19th century ... And they were formerly called Kyrgyz.
In recent years, the authorities of the Russian Federation have been demonstrating consistent weakness and compromise with the enemy ... "stoically" enduring all humiliation, insults and oppression ...
And he says nothing but propaganda about real successes.
Having abandoned the Russian people in Donbass and throughout Little Russia, they rushed to save Syria ... And the issue has not been resolved to this day ... although Assad was saved, the pipelines were not allowed ... But ...
... but this turned out to be not enough, and domestic PMCs are now saving half of Africa ...
Or is the passionary potential burned out like that?
So that Russia will never be reunited with its integral parts?
For Capitalism is not about people.
It's about money.
Not about the people and national interests, but about the interests of the elite, which has both money and their children ... not here ... not in Russia ... but on the territory and under the "enemy's wing."
That is why propaganda loses to obvious facts.
And it is very sad.

[English tarantas]

Well, firstly, the fact that the Turks are Muslims are neither cold nor hot to the Taliban, the Taliban is not about religion, the Taliban is about the power in Afghanistan, from the same al-Qaeda, how much they spit.
Secondly, it was not Pakistani intelligence that gave birth to the Taliban, the history of the Taliban dates back to the late 19th century, in fact it is an alliance of Pashtun clans that want to rule Afghanistan. Since until now the Pakistani intelligence can only make quiet sounds and tell the information to the owners, Pakistan is not the owner on its territory either.
In general, it is true, Turks in Afghanistan for money, like many there, and yes, the new Silk Road and all things, but the problem is that the Turks are not in a vacuum there. If this is about money, then the Turks will have to negotiate with everyone interested and decide to whom how much money to give, we do not take into account China, the USA, England, the Russian Federation at once, no one will come to an agreement with us, as the Chinese say, so will we, But the most important thing is the Taliban, since NATO is leaving, it will be difficult to beat them, unless there will be a network of agents and communications to negotiate with individual groups within the Taliban. But the trouble of the Turks is that their masters, that is, the United States, themselves could not agree with the Taliban, and now the Taliban get all the cards in their hands and can quite seize power for themselves and they will not give the Turks anything just like that, which means trade through the Afghan to the Turks it will be expensive, but as I said, the Turks will not be able to come to an agreement with the Taliban, and bend them too. Everything can be resolved by China, he and the troops there and already have connections for sure, but China has a slightly different interest, firstly, not to let the Americans relax, for this they will try to complicate the life of the Turks, because if the Turks do not work out, then in the red will be the whole of Europe, since the cheaper option to drive goods from China breaks off, secondly, China has an interest in feeding the Russian Federation as a necessary ally, which means completely closing the Silk Road so that goods go only through Russia, or by sea, but also through Russia, and thirdly, the Chinese do not need the Taliban Afghanistan, they need a friendly and at the same time strong state, well, like a country of the social bloc, and the Taliban's plans are most likely not like that.
This means that the Americans will definitely not leave Afghanistan, there will be a new series of NATO operations, with a huge participation of the Turks. On the other hand, the Chinese will stir up there. (just like in the 80s, only the players and sides have changed) And in all of Central Asia we must wait for an increase in the influence of the Turks and NATO (oh, they are already there to swarm there).
Russia in all this can only stand on the right side (China), but I doubt it, because judging by the policies of the last 20 years, our rulers are unable to analyze, predict and consistently start.

[bayard]

Quote: English tarantass

Well, firstly, the fact that the Turks are Muslims are neither cold nor hot to the Taliban, the Taliban is not about religion, the Taliban is about the power in Afghanistan, from the same al-Qaeda, how much they spit.

Muslims, especially Sunnis, are more convenient to talk to than to unfaithful pale-faced people. Moreover, the Turks have made great efforts to create Al-Qaeda (Muslim Brothers).

Quote: English tarantass

Secondly, it was not Pakistani intelligence that gave birth to the Taliban, the history of the Taliban dates back to the late 19th century, in fact it is an alliance of Pashtun clans that want to rule Afghanistan.

Pashtun clans, tribal zones ... During the Soviet presence in Afghanistan, it was Pakistani intelligence (at the request and under the coordination of the CIA and MI6) that organized and structured the Taliban movement. Their military camps were created, training, supplies also went through Pakistani intelligence. So the connections there are old, personal. And they are neighbors. And almost one nation.

Quote: English tarantass

In general, it is true, Turks in Afghanistan for money, like many there, and yes, the new Silk Road

The Turks are there for influence, this is a long game, a long-standing game, and the money is for covering the American evacuation and maintaining stability there for a while, not an end, but a means.

Quote: English tarantass

we do not take into account China, the USA, England, the Russian Federation at once, no one will negotiate with us, as the Chinese say, so will we,

In Afghanistan itself, they are very afraid and do not want (very much) for China to come.
Americans are despised.
Many in Afghanistan, including in the current administration, would like Russia to return ... but this is utopia. It's just that the educated and most capable part of the Afghan elite studied in the USSR / Russia, the Americans themselves told my good friend (one of the leading experts in Central Asia) that when creating Afghan administrations and other authorities, only those who are good for something are good. who was trained in the USSR. Russians are still well remembered there, they are called to return after the Americans ... not by the army, influence, trade ... everything that the USSR was for Afgan since the 60s of the last century.
But this is not a task for the current government.

Quote: English tarantass

But the trouble for the Turks is that their masters, that is, the United States, themselves could not come to an agreement with the Taliban, and now the Taliban get all the cards in their hands and will be able to seize power for themselves and they will not give anything to the Turks just like that,

The owners / patrons and curators of the Turks are now not the United States, but England. That is why the Turks are so confident in themselves ... and successful, lately. That is why they are so firm and tough with the United States.
And I repeat, the Turks will soon come to an agreement with the Taliban and give them power in Afghanistan, help form a government ... or try to create a coalition government.
The Turks have now started very serious geopolitical pressure on influence throughout Central Asia (including Central Asia). Preparations for this have been going on for a long time - through the "soft power" of Islamic preachers, madrassas, cultural exchange, training and education of young people in their theological schools, military universities ... this has been going on for the last three decades. And now is the time to reap the fruits.
There are also plenty of such "spiritual" and cultural centers in Russia.

Quote: English tarantass

Everything can be decided by China, it has troops there and it already has connections for sure, but China has a slightly different interest, firstly, not to let the Americans relax, for this they will try to complicate the life of the Turks,

China has global interests there - transit routes, access to mineral resources, suppression of Uyghur separatism (which is nourished by British, American and TURKISH emissaries and curators). And China is there - in Afghanistan VERY do not want to.
Russia cannot ...
And then a "miracle" happens! Muslim brothers from Turkey come as saviors.
They have already seized everything in Pakistan (they are already deploying a military base there), in Central Asia, who saved and helped win the war and return their lands to Azerbaijan ... who saved the power of Saraj in Libya and defeated Khavtar ... who, despite NATO membership went into a very tough confrontation with the United States ...
They (the Turks) are heroes in the eyes of the entire Islamic world.
And now they have a very good chance to gain a foothold in Afghanistan.
And China .... Do not forget that the Uyghur issue in China is being shaken by immigrants from Turkish madrasahs and training camps, who have undergone severe testing in hostilities in Syria, Iraq, Libya and possibly Azerbaijan.
The Turks are already in a cold conflict with China. And this does not bother them at all.
China is still swelling with military power, economy and wealth ... But it has no allies.
Doesn't have it at all.
And I was not going to have.
He was going (and is going to) outwit everyone.
He was going to sit on the sidelines, in the event of a war between the USSR (then the Russian Federation) with the United States and the entire West, and then become "the master of the mountain."
But now everything has changed and it is HE who is appointed the main target and enemy of the United States. A coalition is gathering against him. A very large coalition.
And there are NO allies.
Russia ?
And how (!) China itself reacted to Russia when she found herself alone against the entire collective West?
Supported?
Help?
Did you just keep the same partnership and trade relationship?
NOT !
He joined them.
Now, feeling their own loneliness, China has burst into articles that "Russia has only two loyal allies - China and (attention!) India." India (!!!), with which he barely unleashed a war in the Himalayas!
Therefore, I would refrain from believing that Russia will run after Chinese interests like Bobik on a string.
I think that Russia too will refrain from unrestrained manifestations of alliance.
But she, too, will not follow the lead and "carrot" from the United States.
It's time for Russia to trade its NEUTRALITY.
And you will have to pay for this neutrality. Pay those who need this neutrality.
And it was precisely Turkey that was chosen by the British to counterbalance China and Russia in Central Asia.
And the Turks have a chance.
It is a pity that the Kremlin missed so many chances for Russia.

[Eli]

Why would China drive the Silk Road through Russia by complicating logistics, and as a result, the price rise of its products ?? Turks in Afghanistan feel like a fish in water, Afghanistan is not only the Pashtun tribes, it is a huge ethnic conglomerate of Turkmen, Uzbeks, Tajiks, etc. .. and this is ok 50% of the population of 34 million in Afghanistan, the fact that the Turks will play the card of ethnic proximity and Turanian unity is 100%, and then there is Pakistan, which will help Turkey in every possible way in establishing relations with the Taliban, there is also Qatar, where the central office and headquarters of the Taliban are located, The Turks have a great option of opportunities to get into the Afghan situation, now they are sorting out options for how to get hold of everything without risking anything, in other words, they want to enter broadly smiling with a merchant's smile, hugging everyone and calling them brothers !!!

[teptyar]

if true, then the scale of their presence in Syria is impressive ...

[Toucan]

A very useful post! Turkey is behaving quite aggressively, and in many ways is a competitor to Russia. The hopes of the "urya-patriots" that after the delivery of the S-400 Ankara will become our ally and withdraw from NATO turned out to be untenable. Turkey, like any self-respecting country, has no allies, but interests.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Tucan

The hopes of the "urya-patriots" that after the delivery of the S-400 Ankara will become our ally and withdraw from NATO turned out to be untenable.

It's just shiz. The seller sold the product, the buyer bought it. That's all. But the seller will lose many times more because of this.
Turkey is creating a national air defense / missile defense system, they have a hole in this segment. The United States and Europe understood the danger and did not sell their medium-long-range systems. Now we are waiting for the appearance of Turkish analogues of the S-400 in the future 5 years.

Quote: Tucan

Turkey, like any self-respecting country, has no allies, but interests.

Turkey has more than enough allies. Britain, USA, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Hungary, Qatar, Indonesia, Libya, Samoli, Sudan, etc.

They solved the Armenian question, now the countries of Central Asia will come under the influence of Turkey. Transport corridors have been breached. First of all, they are interested in Uzbekistan, military and economic cooperation in the coming years will increase many times. This is in the interests of both countries.

[TermNachTer]

The S - 400 has become an excellent wedge - driven into NATO. Now for Brussels, Turkey - a suitcase without a handle. It is inconvenient to carry - Erdik has already annoyed everyone with his antics, but it's a pity to throw away - how much "cannon fodder" you can drive to slaughter without putting your soldiers at risk.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Anything is possible in your fantasy universe. In reality, Turkey is a loyal member of the alliance, their forward southern flank. There is no wedge, as well as serious contradictions.

Refueling B-52 by a Turkish tanker, accompanied by Turkish F-16s.

[Sfurei]

Are you really kidding that there is no wedge in NATO?
Those. Is the cancellation of the sale of the F-35 a problem? Is the withdrawal of part of the production of invisibles from Turkey a problem either?
Is the refusal to supply engines for tanks from Germany and for baibaktars from Canada not a problem either ?? Etc. etc.
The United States spends tens of billions on undermining the relationship of its enemies. And Russia has contrived sell their systems and make a split between the strongest (according to the Armed Forces) NATO countries, the US and Turkey.
Yes, Turkey will not leave NATO, but the internal conflict in NATO plays into our hands))

[English tarantas]

Turn off the TV

[viktor_ui]

Turkey is consistent in its interests and goals, does not abandon its closest allies and harnesses for them to the fullest, regardless of someone's fat interests from those in power. He knows how to make, at the right time, a step back ... well, after a jump forward. I am definitely not a Turkoman, but their policy is definitely imperial ... and we all like a loyal and strong elder friend since childhood.
Let's wait and see xy is xy.

[Xlor]

In order to be a "force" and "hegemony", you need to have a well-developed military industry - metallurgy, chemistry, electronics and much more. And also have a science that would develop all this. Turkey has neither industry, nor any advanced science, and all weapons are purchased. Well, or almost everything ... What kind of hegemony can there be?

[parma]

Quote: Xlor

In order to be a "force" and "hegemony", you need to have a well-developed military industry - metallurgy, chemistry, electronics and much more. And also have a science that would develop all this. Turkey has neither industry, nor any advanced science, and all weapons are purchased. Well, or almost everything ... What kind of hegemony can there be?

They have money, and most importantly, access to the world arms and technology markets (we have problems with the latter), so Turkey can become a regional hegemon (overshadow the Saudis and Iran for sure) ... and then how will it go (well, for now, for big butting with China there are no resources, there is no sense with the United States, but we + - so they move wherever they want in their environment) ... so early you write off the Turks ... the Byzantines (count the Greeks) also at one time considered the Turks to be ordinary barbarians and savages, only for the last 700 years Constantinople Turkish capital, not Greek ...

[TermNachTer]

They are under a lot of pressure with money - the economy is falling. And spending 2,8% of GDP on war is a very dangerous indicator. The economy may not be able to withstand Erdik's wishes))))

[TermNachTer]

All the latest Turkish developments are "crazy pens" assembled from imported spare parts. Banned the supply of engines and OPM - no "bayraktars". They did not give the F - 35, the aircraft carrier "under the tail" and so on according to the list)))

[parma]

Quote: TermNachTER

They are under a lot of pressure with money - the economy is falling. And spending 2,8% of GDP on war is a very dangerous indicator. The economy may not be able to withstand Erdik's wishes))))

Our situation with money is even worse, you can just compare the GDP growth since 2015, when we got out to Syria (and how much money we spent is a secret), we will have it lower ...

Quote: TermNachTER

All the latest Turkish developments are "crazy pens" assembled from imported spare parts. Banned the supply of engines and OPM - no "bayraktars". They did not give the F - 35, the aircraft carrier "under the tail" and so on according to the list)))

Well, here you are also going too far, everything is there, including new orders .. there were difficulties, but + - they are being resolved ... but we do not have a serial strike UAV ... and with engines for the Navy so-so ... even machines for the Ministry of Defense were recently purchased from China ... and it is not our allies (supported forces) who are crushing the pro-Turkish ones everywhere, but just the opposite - Libya, Syria, Armenia ... yes, you can shout as much as you like that these are their sponsored problems and that we are not going to fight in their place, but so far nothing good comes out for them ... so far not everything is bad, but already a lot, in underestimating the enemy, and even taking into account his successes, is not very far-sighted ...

[TermNachTer]

Comparing Russia and Turkey "bad with money" is not even funny. Banning vegetables or tourists - and Erdogan calls Putin so that he is not badly pissed off. Energy prices are rising, and the flow of stolen oil from Syria and Libya is decreasing. The West closes its technology to the Turks. So the situation for Erdogan is not just bad, it is frankly bad, but 2023 elections. And his enemies are "dear mother", both in Turkey itself and abroad. But success, he has something - that is not observed. He climbed into Syria, and when he gets out of it and how is a big question, Libya is the same. Karabakh is generally a failure. How much effort and money was spent, and at the exit "zero point, horseradish tenths."

[parma]

Quote: TermNachTER

Comparing Russia and Turkey "bad with money" is not even funny. Banning vegetables or tourists - and Erdogan calls Putin so that he is not badly pissed off. Energy prices are rising, and the flow of stolen oil from Syria and Libya is decreasing. The West closes its technology to the Turks. So the situation for Erdogan is not just bad, it is frankly bad, but 2023 elections. And his enemies are "dear mother", both in Turkey itself and abroad. But success, he has something - that is not observed. He climbed into Syria, and when he gets out of it and how is a big question, Libya is the same. Karabakh is generally a failure. How much effort and money was spent, and at the exit "zero point, horseradish tenths."

Let's start with the fact that these supposedly "economic sanctions" are ridiculous because a) the blow to us is not weak (our products like tomatoes or crumbs of strawberries, and the half-dead business is not happy), b) is temporary (the same tour flow will open in a couple of weeks), c) it looks funny against the background of the actions of the Turkish military (first they shot down the plane, which also led to the shooting down of a helicopter, then MI24 in Karabakh, by the way, half a year has passed, but the investigation is dull) ...
In terms of energy flows, the Turkish flow is almost never used, and not because we don't want to ..
Regarding Syria, Libya and Armenia, in Syria, the Turks control a very densely populated section of the country, which, moreover, can provide itself with almost everything necessary (Assad cannot), and the Turks with cheap cannon fodder for Libya and Armenia ... in Libya, almost free fighters provided themselves with energy resources and most importantly, a political resource (sea borders) ... well, in Armenia, they showed the whole world what our support is worth and Turkish ... Armenia blew it out at 0, and we are there as guests ... after a specified time, Turkey will show us the door through the lips of Azerbaijan and we will withdraw the peacekeepers ... so the question is, here we have been in Armenia since the 90s, 6 years in Syria, a couple of years in Libya, what good did it give us? And do not we now need to fight terrorism on the distant frontiers, besides this? And when you answer, compare it with earning a "worthless" Turkey ...

[TermNachTer]

Do you have a bad memory?))) I remind you - when the war began, allegedly President Aliyev spoke about the return of all the occupied territories - EVERYONE. A month and a half of fighting, considerable losses - Armenian Karabakh and there, a Russian military base. And she will be there as long as Moscow decides. The opinions of Baku and Ankara, Uncle Vova does not care. The fact that Erdogan (Aliyev) was not forced to kneel down and publicly repent for the downed plane (helicopter) does not mean that they were not punished. Even from open sources it is known that the Azeris were under pressure. Aliyev (like the president) asks for an appointment with the head of the Investigative Committee. Why's that?

[voyaka uh]

Here is a map of Karabakh after the war.
Almost all of them went to Azerbaijan.

[TermNachTer]

You distinguish between ALL TERRITORIES and almost all - do you distinguish? Even your map shows that somewhere half remained with the Armenians. Moreover, now the solution of the issue does not depend on Yerevan, Baku and Ankara. Previously they could, now they can't.

[Eli]

nothing was left behind by the Armenians, there were no Armenians left either !! As soon as a peace treaty is concluded and Azerbaijan and Armenia recognize each other's territorial integrity, the last Armenians will leave Khankendi

[TermNachTer]

Did someone tell you that?)))) Or do you think so?))) There are Russian peacekeepers and they will leave when Moscow decides))))

[parma]

Quote: TermNachTER

Do you have a bad memory?))) I remind you - when the war began, allegedly President Aliyev spoke about the return of all the occupied territories - EVERYONE. A month and a half of fighting, considerable losses - Armenian Karabakh and there, a Russian military base. And she will be there as long as Moscow decides. The opinions of Baku and Ankara, Uncle Vova does not care. The fact that Erdogan (Aliyev) was not forced to kneel down and publicly repent for the downed plane (helicopter) does not mean that they were not punished. Even from open sources it is known that the Azeris were under pressure. Aliyev (like the president) asks for an appointment with the head of the Investigative Committee. Why's that?

As a result of the war, Karabakh almost completely passed under the control of Azerbaijan, the remaining regions are a matter of time ... and there is no base there and there will not be ... there is a contingent of peacekeepers, for 5 years (with an extension if the door is not indicated) ... but the Turkish base will not be one (the Turkish military is already there, the aircraft were freely based during the battles) ...
Regarding public repentance and punishment - how does it mean ... at one time the USSR apologized for the downed Boeing, Iran recently apologized for the downed Ukrainian plane ... the Turks did not apologize, Azerbaijan did not apologize ... even Assad did not apologize, he preferred to blame Israel for everything ... You apparently do not consider the opposite option is that Azerbaijan was negotiating to hush up the matter (how it was hushed up with the Turks, and then generally written off due to a conspiracy) ...

[TermNachTer]

The fact that there was no official apology does not mean that there were none at all. Punished "in private" so that the hot horseman did not lose face in front of the neighbors. As a result, half of Karabakh remained with the Armenians. The Russian base is and will be there. Who will show Russia?))) Azerbaijan?)))) And where will Baku settle its fellow countrymen who are deported from Russia? Well, perhaps in Karabakh, which is almost Azerbaijani)))

[parma]

Quote: TermNachTER

The fact that there was no official apology does not mean that there were none at all. Punished "in private" so that the hot horseman did not lose face in front of the neighbors. As a result, half of Karabakh remained with the Armenians. The Russian base is and will be there. Who will show Russia?))) Azerbaijan?)))) And where will Baku settle its fellow countrymen who are deported from Russia? Well, perhaps in Karabakh, which is almost Azerbaijani)))

There is no base in Karabakh, there is a modular camp of peacekeepers, it was even shown on TV (there are really temporary places) ... what and how much will be on the territory of Karabakh Aliyev decides, he is the president of Azerbaijan and this is his land (Nagorno-Karabakh is a territory officially recognized as Azerbaijani Russian Federation) ... but about the deportation, tell the Ukrainians, Georgians, Americans and forgive the Czechs, everyone has already been expelled with our concern ...
Regarding the apology, while we have not publicly apologized, we are in fictions, everyone can see that you can wipe your feet and nothing will happen ... and yes, you are right, people in the Caucasus respect power, and we have not shown this power over the past 30 years ... neither in both Chechens, neither in Georgia (yes, even there) nor now in Karabakh ...

[TermNachTer]

And what tools does Aliyev have to demand something from Russia? Please announce the entire list)))) about both Chechens, very fun))) for the first time Chechnya was saved only by the fact that everyone pressed on the drunkard Borya and put pressure on him. For the second time, there was no one to put pressure on, and therefore absolutely obedient Kadyrov sits in Grozny. And he sits there only for the time being obedient.

[parma]

Quote: TermNachTER

And what tools does Aliyev have to demand something from Russia? Please announce the entire list)))) about both Chechens, very fun))) for the first time Chechnya was saved only by the fact that everyone pressed on the drunkard Borya and put pressure on him. For the second time, there was no one to put pressure on, and therefore absolutely obedient Kadyrov sits in Grozny. And he sits there only for the time being obedient.

From the banal - upon the expiration of the peacekeeping mandate, it demands the withdrawal of the contingent, in case of refusal, it blocks the transport corridor (although what a refusal, we officially recognize Karabakh as part of Azerbaijan), after which the peacekeepers are recognized not as peacekeepers, but as occupation troops ... and then it depends on Aliyev's desire ... before strikes against them, and according to international (including Russian) legislation, Russia is an aggressor who unleashed a war ...
Regarding the weakness in both Chechens - for the first time they almost fled from Chechnya (the situation was stalemate, there were victories, but there was not enough strength, everything that was combat-ready was already exhausted, there were no reserves), during the second war, yesterday's militant came to power, who declared jihad to our country ... and now Chechnya is so obedient that local security officials come to Moscow and insolently steal those who are unwanted by the head of the republic or do not interfere with the "Moscow" security officials from arresting those put on the wanted list ... the situation with the Caucasus is very difficult for us now .. yes, now the world, but the mountaineers behave with impunity ...

[TermNachTer]

Eck everything is simple for you. Mandate from two sides. Armenia - will want to remain on its own - against Turkey and Azerbaijan. As for the Chechen one, there is no need to tell me a fairy tale. My colleagues fought in the first Chechen war. Chechnya was already on its knees when the Khasav-Yurt agreements were signed. The soldiers nearly killed Berezovsky. And there is nothing to argue about. Chechnya is a subject of the Russian Federation. And those who fought for "independence"
or in the next world, or in prison, or on the run. Do you think that in other countries they do not kill, do not kidnap people?))) Go to Matrasoland - you will like it))) the white population leaves New York - it is impossible for normal people to live.

[parma]

Quote: TermNachTER

Eck everything is simple for you. Mandate from two sides. Armenia - will want to remain on its own - against Turkey and Azerbaijan. As for the Chechen one, there is no need to tell me a fairy tale. My colleagues fought in the first Chechen war. Chechnya was already on its knees when the Khasav-Yurt agreements were signed. The soldiers nearly killed Berezovsky. And there is nothing to argue about. Chechnya is a subject of the Russian Federation. And those who fought for "independence"
or in the next world, or in prison, or on the run. Do you think that in other countries they do not kill, do not kidnap people?))) Go to Matrasoland - you will like it))) the white population leaves New York - it is impossible for normal people to live.

This is all complicated for you ... according to the agreement on Karabakh, Armenia can single-handedly only withdraw the peacekeepers, but not leave it because there is a clause “The term of stay of the peacekeeping contingent of the Russian Federation is set at 5 years with automatic extension for next 5-year periods, if neither party will not declare 6 months before the expiration of the term of its intention to terminate the application of this provision "... therefore it is not for the Armenians to decide (they, as the losing side, do not decide anything at all) ...
My father-in-law served as an officer during the first Chechen war and 1996 was neither successful nor very promising for the federal forces ... regarding everyone who referred to the independence of Chechnya - read on whose side the current head of the republic fought in the first campaign ... and I did not raise the question about where people are not kidnapped ... the question was that the Chechen security forces are doing this and how they, with weapons in their hands, interfere with the arrest of the wanted people ...
There is nothing to argue about, here you are right ... because we are discussing Turkey ... while Erdogan's cunning plans work better than the HPP ...

[TermNachTer]

No need to repeat stupid fairy tales about Kadyrov))) I repeat my friends were in Chechnya and my information is not from TV. Kadyrov, the elder, was a categorical opponent of the war with Russia, for which he was killed. So Kadyrov is a junior, not just an enemy of all fighters "for independence", but a bloodline. I repeat, the Azerbaijani wishes about the peacekeepers in Karabakh are nothing more than wishes.
The blockade and other nonsense is not even funny. Aliyev is a dick only on TV, but in real life - he is even afraid to bite with Russia, because Turkey will not help.

[Yeraz]

Quote: TermNachTER

As a result, half of Karabakh remained with the Armenians

Okay? Only the Kelbejar and Lachin districts are larger than the NKR, and this despite the fact that the south of NK Hadrut and Shusha passed to Azeraydjan, as well as part of Khojavend. With a half, it was very pogarechilis))))

[TermNachTer]

Tired of repeating - what did your president declare at the beginning of the conflict? I write in large letters, for the poorly understood - RETURN OF ALL TERRITORIES. I repeat - EVERYONE. As a result, with large losses in equipment and l / s, not all and when they will return is not known. Perhaps never. So the stormy delights and victory parades are not clear to me personally. We make a beautiful face when the game is bad.

[Yeraz]

Quote: TermNachTER

began to repeat - what did your president declare at the beginning of the conflict?

I specifically pointed out your half-refund lie.
Let me explain the enthusiasm. Those territories were returned from which 95 percent of the refugees were !!! And in 30 years later, 95 percent will return to their homes. And a huge plus is that the generation that left these lands has not died out or has not grown much older, and even the return of 50 percent of these refugees will make the Azerbaijani population a 5-fold numerical advantage over Nagorno-Karabakh over Nagorno-Karabakh. And the Azerbaijani regions will develop in contrast to NK. Therefore, even those who say that in 5 years Russia will not leave, but at least in 30 years will not leave. The main thing is that 95 percent returned, and NK will slowly be absorbed. Everyone saw how they invested in NK and their sacred Shushi, no way. As the previous 30 years they worked for Azerbaijan, so the next 30 will work for Azerbaijan.

[TermNachTer]

You are overly optimistic, like your president. There are elections in Turkey in 2023, Erdogan has many enemies. Turkish aid could disappear abruptly, but problems remain. For the Armenians, this is also their land, they also just like that, they will not leave there.

[Yeraz]

Quote: TermNachTER

You are overly optimistic, like your president. There are elections in Turkey in 2023, Erdogan has many enemies. Turkish aid could disappear abruptly, but problems remain. For the Armenians, this is also their land, they also just like that, they will not leave there.

I proceed from the real situation. And that the problems have disappeared ?? NK is not under the rule of Azerbaijan, although Erdogan is still 2 years before the elections. The matter is not in Erdogan, in general. There is not so much tied up as in Russia on Putin. Danger maybe in the very weakening of Turkey in principle.
Yes, fairy tales are for the Armenians their land, exanthetical blah blah, which Soloviev and Bagdasarov broadcast. As far as their land we saw in 7 occupied regions in which they did not live much, but they considered it to be primordially Armenian, and in fact, a scorched earth for 30 years, as well as they saw in their sacred Shushi, also complete desolation, as in the rest of NK. And the Armenians with Chumadans from all their relatives are leaving NK forever and there are a lot of them in the south of the Russian Federation. There is a factor of the West that will not allow the Armenians to be expelled at this stage, even if The MS of Russia will be taken and abandoned, so there will be a quiet takeover, which, given a convenient geopolitical situation, will turn into a military path.
The Armenians are surrounded with a 5 km entrance on both sides of which are the troops of Azerbaijan, the capital of Armenia in one of the Tornado's access from different sides.
Armenia is still inferior in terms of economy to Azerijan, in migration and demography. Therefore, this is their land, etc., it sounds cool, but tools are needed to maintain this and so far there are no countries on the horizon that will create this parity, let alone ahead of schedule.

[TermNachTer]

The state of Armenia has been known for more than 2000 years; I have never heard of Azerbaijan. The fact that Yerevan is within the range of the "tornado" is a fact. Do you think Iskander will reach Baku? Or are you hoping for an "iron dome"? But he, somehow, did not help the Jews very much. Regarding economic power, do you know who owns Azerbaijani oil? Of course, it is very difficult there, but definitely not for Azerbaijan. Regarding Turkey, when the Turks begin to have economic problems, and they are already more than serious, they will not have time to support their vassals and they will slowly begin to "drain".

[Yeraz]

Quote: TermNachTER

The state of Armenia has been known for more than 2000 years; I have never heard of Azerbaijan.

And what does it have to do with it? When was the last time it was the state of Armenia? There was no state with the name Turkey, so what?

Quote: TermNachTER

The fact that Yerevan is within the range of the "tornado" is a fact. Do you think Iskander will reach Baku? Or are you hoping for an "iron dome"?

These are questions for Russia to get it or not. And what is worse than expensive piece Iskanders in Armenia or a bunch of Tornadoes from different sides ??

Quote: TermNachTER

Regarding economic power, do you know who owns Azerbaijani oil? Of course, it is very difficult there, but definitely not for Azerbaijan.

Not only to Azerbaijan, but to global corporations, so let's hit the nonsense of the Armenians on the oil structure and remain nonsense.

Quote: TermNachTER

Regarding Turkey, when the Turks begin to have economic problems, and they are already more than serious, they will not have time to support their vassals and they will slowly begin to "drain".

what has their economic problems to do with? Azerbaijan is not an Armenia kept woman, Turkey provides political, technological assistance. Azerbaijan's investments are higher than Turkish investments in Azerbaijan. And there are no even hints about gifts of weapons and everything else, all for hard currency and on time, as in principle and with Russia.
And Israel do not forget. A lot of technological weapons were Israeli. The role of Israel has been reduced for obvious reasons, but it has not disappeared anywhere, Israel is also provided with political and technological support, only quietly and without PR.

[TermNachTer]

Azerbaijani oil belongs to British Petroleum and Shell, not Azerbaijan.
Investing in Turkey is just stupidity. save the Turkish economy at their own expense. And the Armenians have quite a strong lobby in Washington and Paris, so this pathos is not needed. Baku operates only up to the borders that the owners have outlined for it. For these people, even Erdogan is one of many who exist today, and tomorrow they have forgotten about him.

[Yeraz]

Quote: TermNachTER

Azerbaijani oil belongs to British Petroleum and Shell, not Azerbaijan.

but the budget of Azerbaijan is filled out of thin air and the 20 lard invested in the Turkish economy from the air too.

Quote: TermNachTER

Investing in Turkey is just stupidity.

stupidity is your mania to write everywhere and in most cases it is biased and just writing for the sake of writing.
The largest investment of Azerbaijan is the STAR refinery and the TANAP and TAP trues, so that they sell and process oil and gas that do not belong to Azerbaijan.
Why Turkey? Because, from the Mediterranean coast, the entire European market, where the hand falls and from there access to world markets. Also semi-monopoly in the sale of these processed products (aviation fuel, etc.) in the Turkish market. Also insurance in terms of investments, since build it is in Europe, at an unnecessary moment, you can grab sanctions. The Baku oil refinery and the petrochemical complex in Sumgait are being modernized for the odds of their market. Also big investments.

Quote: TermNachTER

Baku operates only up to the borders that the owners have outlined for it.

If you follow this logic, then do not comment on anything. USA China Russia Britain are all the players in the world.

[Albay]

https://youtu.be/H9Kjk9LsEBI

[English tarantas]

This is what you remembered the 20th century. Such a need is relevant only for a state that is going to fight with another totally, for destruction, then it is necessary to be completely self-sufficient. In general, war requires good weapons and soldiers, and where it all came from does not matter, especially for local capitalist conflicts, purely for the grandmother. Let us recall the same Englishmen throughout the last century: the Hindu is fighting for the British, in Europe, against the Germans, weapons that are not clear where and by whom, made in the United States on credit, in order to prevent the Germans from sucking money from Eastern Europe and advice to break the whole system of sucking money ...

[Victorio]

Quote: Xlor

In order to be a "force" and "hegemony", you need to have a well-developed military industry - metallurgy, chemistry, electronics and much more. And also have a science that would develop all this. Turkey has neither industry, nor any advanced science, and all weapons are purchased. Well, or almost everything ... What kind of hegemony can there be?

===
local knowledgeable people say that electronics and instrumentation are developing. plus the population is large, but the imperial past. from the minuses, all these successes to the first good and sobering slap in the face, then wai-wai, coffins, dissatisfaction with hot Turkish guys and the desire for peace and friendship, somehow I think so

[Eli]

586 Turkish companies representing the Turkish military-industrial complex participated in IDEF 2021 - the 15th International Exhibition of the Turkish Defense Industry !! ! The American Internet publication Defense News has presented a rating of the 100 largest defense companies in the world, based on revenue from sales of military products by global manufacturers in 2019. It includes seven Turkish manufacturers: ASELSAN, TUSAŞ, BMC, ROKETSAN, STM, FNSS and HAVELSAN ....

[Sailor]

The hour when we clash once again is not long!

[Zaurbek]

For me, the mystery is different: Turkey is an export-oriented country, from agriculture to processing and mechanical engineering products, Tourism, a large logistics hub .... technologies are available from the West, a relatively young population in%, good demography, the only democracy among Muslim countries , ....... and Lira is falling in the same way as in the Russian Federation the ruble.

[TermNachTer]

Not only the lira is falling, but also the standard of living of the population. And there it is not far from the food riots. 2016 - only five years have passed. The costs of the war are much more than the Turkish economy can "pull".

[Zaurbek]

They have no war .... these are counter-terrorist operations (which are accompanied by oil smuggling in the other direction .....)
Part of the economy (tourism and guest workers) was crippled by the crisis and the pandemic ... but the production is working, the export of products with high margins is preserved ...

[TermNachTer]

Yeah, in Banderland there is also ATO - only it doesn't make it easier for people.

[English tarantas]

What currencies are growing at the same time? Note that since 2007, in general, all currencies are falling and the economy, except for a couple of three, and someone's "growth" is more likely a slowdown in the rate of collapse.

[Zaurbek]

All except the backups are falling ... although they are all typing ...

[Prometheus]

Quote: Zaurbek

the only democracy among Muslim countries

But what about Tunisia and Indonesia? If you do not delve into the peculiarities of the political systems of Pakistan and Iran.

[voyaka uh]

Lyra is killed by Erdogan. In Turkey, in principle, a normal Central Bank, with normal leadership. But Erdogan periodically attacks them with harsh criticism. Frightened officials are dismissed from sin. Lyra falls

[English tarantas]

Money is the equivalent of the value of all goods and services. The real value of the Turkish economy cannot get cheaper from the fact that someone is fired.
Lira is being ruined by the dollar.

[Shahno]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Anything is possible in your fantasy universe. In reality, Turkey is a loyal member of the alliance, their forward southern flank. There is no wedge, as well as serious contradictions.

Refueling B-52 by a Turkish tanker, accompanied by Turkish F-16s.

Yes, of course, there are no fundamental differences. There are graters like, "I do this, and you have no right, but who are you, I want to try this too, then I went out of here, I won't go"

[TermNachTer]

Of course not)))) Erdogan publicly calls Macron a fool, but otherwise, everything is fine)))

[Zaurbek]

Well, maybe Erdogan knows something.

[TermNachTer]

Calling a Rothschild man a fool in front of everyone is not the smartest thing to do.

[Xlor]

[quote = parma] [quote = Xlor] They have money, and most importantly, access to the world arms and technology markets [/ quote]

Turkey has no money! In any case, the kind of money with which you can meddle in all hot spots. And even more so, there is no access to world technology markets. Nobody is allowed access to high-tech technologies, and you can't use purchased weapons to fight a lot ...

[voyaka uh]

"And there is no access to world technology markets, even more so" ///
----
Of course I have. There are no sanctions against Turkey. Turkish firms buy
any licenses, any materials and components.
And the tech industries in Turkey are very developed. They manufacture and export
modern metalworking machines. Produce their own electronics.
Overtook Russia in many industries.

[Knell wardenheart]

The rise of Turkey is quite natural - for a century the country was "in hibernation", while possessing geographic and cultural imperial prerequisites. While next to it there were such "titans of wrestling" as the USSR and the US, which played more actively in European affairs - these factors suppressed Turkey, however, with the collapse of the USSR and the degradation of the CIS, as well as with the "clearing" of the Middle East by the US forces (Libya, Iraq) - Turkey is gaining ground and space around.
The further development of Turkey rests on a number of factors - such as Erdo's resilience as a political figure (68 years old comrade, and 2 presidential term already), the issue of the continuity of the course in a country with "not ideal" democratic traditions (military intervention in politics) and the antagonism of religious and secular lines, etc.
Also an important factor is whether the US + coalition will resolve the Iranian issue by force or not.
At the moment, one of the factors limiting Turkey's actions is its NATO membership - which, on the one hand, gives a number of preferences and advantages, on the other hand, limits the methods and scope of Turkey's own ambitions. Apparently, "on the horizon" even Turkey's withdrawal from NATO or an increase in the formalization of its presence there is possible - which, however, is still far away, since Turkey is still in the stage of military and political-moral growth.

[Bakinec]

The tale that Turkey will open 3 bases on the territory of Azerbaijan is an invention of the author.

[opposite28]

“From now on, before you is Turkey, which does not lose either in diplomacy or in war. What our army gains on the fronts, we are not inferior in the negotiations. "

Gambling is contraindicated in Cavusoglu, as well as Erdogan, and they also say that dementia is not contagious

[TermNachTer]

The kids just do not understand well what kind of meat grinder they are getting into, but when they do, it may be too late. One half of Azerbaijani oil belongs to the British, and the other to mattresses. Nobody sees Turkey in this situation and is not going to see it.

[Xlor]

Quote: voyaka uh

Turkish firms buy any licenses, any materials and components.

Maybe the licenses for the production of clothes or bathroom rugs will be sold to them, but no one will share high-tech and science-intensive technologies with them. I'll tell you more - such technologies are protected in the same way as their own lives. Remember the engines for unmanned Bayraktar, which Canada refused to sell to them ...

[Albay]

Another interesting article from Andrzej.
I would like to correct a little about Azerbaijan.
What do you mean when you write that the Turks have full access to the infrastructure of the Air Force? By and large, they have access to the entire infrastructure of the army.
Regarding the planning of the deployment of bases in Azerbaijan, this is gossip. Sea is generally impossible under international treaties and obligations assumed in determining the status of the Caspian Sea. Aliyev always stated that there would be no military bases on the territory of Azerbaijan. And why are they? Signed agreements between the countries and Aliyev's statement that the goal of the leadership is to turn the Azerbaijani army into a mini model of the Turkish one.

[Albay]

Servicemen of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan have successfully completed training courses for special forces soldiers in the province of Isparta in western Turkey.

This was announced on Wednesday, April 28, at the Turkish Ministry of National Defense.



The defense department noted that the training was organized on the territory of the School and the Center of Mountain Special Forces and the Center for Combating Terrorism.

The courses lasted six weeks.

The Turkish Defense Ministry noted that a ceremony of completion of the courses was organized for the Azerbaijani military personnel.

Two days ago, another group of servicemen went for training.

[Exval]

As usual with this author, very informative. By itself, the growth of the country's military activity abroad against the background of a slowdown in economic growth can lead to the most unexpected consequences.

[Borisych]

“Twenty-four hours for reflection is will; the first shot is already bondage; assault is death. " A.V. Suvorov, Russian commander.