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Self-propelled anti-tank missile system of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine "Amulet"

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"Amulet" based on the "Novator" armored car


The Ukrainian defense industry often presents new developments based on existing products. It is on this principle that the promising Amulet self-propelled anti-tank missile system is built. The base for it can be almost any wheeled chassis, and key components, incl. missiles are borrowed from the existing serial ATGM. Whether such a complex will be able to find a place in the Ukrainian army is not yet clear.

From rocket to complex


History the current project "Amulet" dates back to the middle of the two thousandth years, when the State Kiev KB "Luch" began the development of a promising ATGM "Stugna-P". The development was completed at the turn of the decade, in 2011 the finished complex was adopted. In the future, the GKKB "Luch" proposed various methods of installing such an ATGM on a carrier vehicle, which basically did not differ in particular complexity.

At the beginning of last year, at one of the Ukrainian exhibitions, the Luch State Design Bureau presented a new project of an anti-tank complex called Amulet. It offered a combat module and a set of control equipment for installation on a suitable carrier. At the same time, the key components were borrowed from the Stugna-P serial complex.


ATGM based on BRDM-2

Last year, an experienced "Amulet" was demonstrated at the exhibition, made on the basis of the "Novator" armored car. On the roof of the car there was a combat module with missiles, and a control panel was located inside the hull. Later, this machine (or another sample of the same configuration) was transferred to one of the combat units for military trials.

The advertising materials for the "Amulet" featured a prototype based on the BRDM-2 armored vehicle. Probably, it is this experienced ATGM that is currently being tested in the army. Based on the results of last year and the current operation in the military unit, conclusions can be drawn that will determine the further fate of the project.

Technical features


The main idea of ​​the "Amulet" project is quite simple. A set of equipment for installation on a basic armored vehicle is offered. The complex includes a combat module with missiles and optoelectronic equipment, a control panel, power supplies and a set of auxiliary components.


The key component of the complex is a combat module installed on the carrier's roof. It is based on a turntable with supports for the swinging part. The latter is equipped with mounts for two TPKs with missiles and carries optical instruments. The combat module is controlled remotely. Search for targets, aiming and launching are carried out using the operator panel. In this case, the removal of the shot containers and the installation of new ones are carried out manually.

The combat module with two TPK has dimensions of 1440 x 775 x 790 mm and weighs 385 kg. Provides circular horizontal guidance. The swinging part moves from -9 ° to + 25 °. The actuators move the launcher at a speed of 5 deg / s.

The optical means of the "Amulet" are similar to the "Stugna-P" complex. He receives the so-called. guidance device - a unit with two cameras and a laser rangefinder. There are two modes of operation with a wide (4 ° 20 'x 3 ° 10') and narrow (1 ° 15 'x 0 ° 50') field of view. The device provides detection of a typical target "tank" at distances of at least 13,5 km and confident identification at 5,5 km.


A separate thermal imager is located above the guidance unit. This device is built on the basis of a cooled matrix of medium wavelength range with a resolution of 640 x 512 pixels. There are three modes of operation with different fields of view, from 35 ° x 28 ° to 1,8 ° x 1,44 °. Target detection and recognition ranges are declared at the level of 11 and 4,7 km.

The operator's console is designed as a protected case with a monitor and controls. Information in digital form and a signal from optical devices is displayed on a 12-inch monitor.

The Amulet complex receives two types of guided missiles from Stugna - RK-2S and RK-2M. The RK-2S rocket is made in a caliber of 130 mm and is placed in a TPK with a length of 1,36 m. The mass of a container with a rocket is 30 kg, incl. 6,7 kg warhead. The RK-2M product has a 152 mm caliber and a longer length. TPK with such a rocket weighs 37 kg. Warhead weight - 9,2 kg. The missiles are equipped with a unified semi-automatic laser guidance system and fly 5 km. Tandem cumulative warheads of 130 and 152 mm caliber provide penetration of 800 or 900 mm of armor, respectively.


Self-propelled ATGM "Amulet" on the tasks being solved is similar to the basic product "Stugna-P". It is designed to destroy stationary and mobile ground targets, incl. armored and equipped with dynamic protection. Combat use is allowed at any time of the day, in different weather conditions and in a wide temperature range. At the same time, combat capabilities are significantly expanded due to the use of a self-propelled chassis and the presence of two missiles on the launcher at once.

Project potential


In the distant past, the Stugna-P ATGM entered service and went into production, which opened up opportunities for further development. One of the obvious ways to expand capabilities was the installation of a missile system on certain platforms. Such ideas have already reached implementation, but the modern project "Amulet" is distinguished by a more thorough approach.

The main advantages of the self-propelled ATGM "Amulet" are the very fact of its existence and the main features of its appearance. The combat vehicle is capable of quickly entering and leaving a position after an attack. It also simplifies the transfer of complexes over long distances. At the same time, the complex does not impose excessively high requirements on its carrier and can be used even with outdated samples.


The complex is on trial, 2021

The most complex components of the "Amulet" in the form of electronics and missiles are borrowed from the existing ATGM. Only the combat module and other means have been developed from scratch. This should greatly simplify production, operation and operator training. Depending on the choice of a wheeled platform, the customer will be able to obtain certain benefits.

There are not only advantages but also disadvantages associated with the base chassis. For example, the BRDM-2 is morally outdated and needs to be modernized for the protection and power unit. Without such measures, the Amulet ATGM will face various operational and combat problems. Modern machines with sufficient characteristics, in turn, are very expensive.

"Amulet" is distinguished by an open placement of a launcher with missiles and optical devices, without the possibility of their cleaning under the armor. In a number of situations, this can be a serious drawback that negatively affects the real survivability and combat stability.


The risks of being hit by return fire are further increased due to the limited firing range - the Stugna-P ATGM missiles fly only 5 km. It should also be noted that this complex is not new and is based on even older samples. Thus, the real combat potential of the "Amulet" may be limited, and in the future it should only be reduced.

It should be borne in mind that "Amulet" runs the risk of encountering difficulties typical for all modern Ukrainian projects. Due to limited funding and other negative factors, the project runs the risk of not progressing beyond testing or production in a small series with the re-equipment of individual units. As a result, it will not become widespread and will not have a serious impact on the combat capability of the troops.

Mixed prospects


The emergence of the "Amulet" project shows the desire of the Ukrainian industry to follow current trends and the ability to create projects of a modern look. Self-propelled anti-tank systems based on existing vehicle chassis and missiles are of interest to the armies and can find a place on the international market. However, the lack of all the required modern technologies, production facilities, etc. seriously limits the potential of the new development.

Currently, the "Amulet" complex in an updated configuration, on an outdated chassis, is undergoing military trials. Probably, based on their results, the issue of launching the series and adopting it into service will be decided. What the real future of this complex will turn out to be is unclear. However, there are no reasons for optimistic assessments so far.
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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR April 13 2021 18: 43
    -2
    Tremble the Buryats ... there was a right for your armored deer ... wassat laughing feel
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon April 13 2021 19: 24
      +5
      Laughter, laughter, but just the ATGM is that little that in Ukraine can still be produced in large quantities (and is being produced).
      1. SaLaR
        SaLaR April 13 2021 21: 20
        +2
        ..... how much is here fellows minusers ..... request
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon April 13 2021 21: 30
          0
          We love the holy fools in Russia :)
        2. Prisoner
          Prisoner April 13 2021 22: 35
          +3
          VO is not Donbass. Why not "fight" for Nenka here? hi
      2. max702
        max702 April 13 2021 22: 01
        +1
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        Laughter, laughter, but just the ATGM is that little that in Ukraine can still be produced in large quantities (and is being produced).

        They cannot produce a mortar ("hammer" for 120mm mod 41g), but you ATGM .. If you repainted something Soviet and hung up your stickers, then this is not really production ..
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon April 13 2021 22: 13
          +6
          Unfortunately, judging by the known data of ATGMs, they supply both for export and for themselves. Whether it is Soviet or its own fat-making industry - I don't know, but this is really one of the few massive and dangerous systems that must be taken into account.

          And with a mortar - I still can't understand how they managed to make such a good one? Apparently they create on Soviet machines, and therefore he himself crumbles the fascists, by self-detonation, as they say, out of ideological hatred :)
          1. Bobik012
            Bobik012 April 25 2021 05: 21
            0
            They supply ATGMs both for export and for themselves.

            Come on! The whole world has been filled up! With imported electronics and questionable missile quality, the price / quality ratio is somewhat off scale. They will make several pieces, show them on TV (where only the BRDM was dug out, capable of independent movement !?) and that's it. Will go to America not before the Javelins to beg
  2. Andrey Korotkov
    Andrey Korotkov April 13 2021 18: 49
    -1
    I will not indiscriminately find fault, but not enough TPK (missiles) for such a chassis request
  3. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 April 13 2021 18: 52
    0
    Self-propelled anti-tank ...

    The design community would be more surprised if it was a "scooter" ...
  4. knn54
    knn54 April 13 2021 19: 06
    0
    In 1968, the "Strela-1" air defense system based on the BRDM-2 and the "Strela-2" MANPADS was adopted.
    The crew consisted of three people: driver, gunner and commander.
    In this case, ATGM.
    1. Vadim Golubkov
      Vadim Golubkov April 13 2021 19: 26
      +10
      I served on the BRDM-2 Competition, we had a crew of 2 people, a driver and an operator-gunner, he is also the commander of the vehicle, a combat module of 5 anti-tank missiles and 15 missiles inside the vehicle.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Andrey Korotkov
        Andrey Korotkov April 13 2021 19: 32
        0
        Quote: Vadim Golubkov
        I served on the BRDM-2 Competition, we had a crew of 2 people, a driver and an operator-gunner, he is also the commander of the vehicle, a combat module of 5 anti-tank missiles and 15 missiles inside the vehicle.

        I can find out the year of service?
        1. Vadim Golubkov
          Vadim Golubkov April 13 2021 20: 58
          0
          90-92 years.
          1. Andrey Korotkov
            Andrey Korotkov April 13 2021 21: 03
            0
            Quote: Vadim Golubkov
            90-92 years.

            Quote: Andrey Korotkov
            I will not indiscriminately find fault, but not enough TPK (missiles) for such a chassis request

            Thank you, clarified for yourself hi not enough Ukrainians have placed
            1. Vadim Golubkov
              Vadim Golubkov April 13 2021 21: 19
              +2
              20 missiles were ammunition for the Brdm-2 Competition. Our new gas Tiger Cornet has 8 missiles on the module, plus 8 inside the vehicle, for a total of 16. How much ammunition is on the Amulet? Of course, 2 rockets on the module are not enough, at least 4.
      3. Alexga
        Alexga April 13 2021 20: 29
        +1
        I believe you served on 9P148?
        1. Vadim Golubkov
          Vadim Golubkov April 13 2021 21: 01
          +4
          Yes exactly.
      4. businessv
        businessv April 14 2021 21: 56
        +2
        Quote: Vadim Golubkov
        I served on the BRDM-2 Competition

        How can you put a minus for the obvious fact that you voiced ?! Wonders! smile Never mind!
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 April 13 2021 19: 07
    -1
    An armored car's cross-country ability is below average ... how can it arrange ambushes in unexpected places ...
    1. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon April 13 2021 19: 26
      -1
      It depends on what kind of armored car: they make a wart based on a Ford. It turned out to be a direct analogue to our tiger. Quite walkable and efficient. In addition, thanks to the Soviet legacy, Ukraine has a developed (albeit degraded) road network.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 13 2021 19: 53
        +1
        The permeability is worse than that of any tracked chassis .... and ambushes are not done right by the road, anti-tank weapons are hiding as soon as they can !!! Because if they spot her from the tank, the khan will come to her and quickly.
        1. Blackgrifon
          Blackgrifon April 13 2021 21: 33
          +4
          Maybe so, only the USSR did not just rivet the mess with the ATGM. And they were used, if I am not mistaken, in the Yom Kippur War. And even ordinary Wilis with recoilless vehicles and ATGMs were successfully used against tanks, from India to Lebanon.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 13 2021 22: 45
            +2
            So the "mess" also floated, jumping ditches at the expense of an additional pair of wheels! And the local safe on wheels will get stuck in any ditch!
            No, for such a case it is better to find a "motorcycle" chassis.
            1. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon April 14 2021 16: 40
              +2
              The motorcycle league is a masterpiece! It is a pity that we no longer produce them, but only capital.
              But the goose has its drawbacks, and the four-wheel drive is not so bad and it is economical: the same BA-64 and Scouts went through the whole War. Here, as they say, the main thing is not to go to extremes and take into account the terrain.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 14 2021 17: 28
                +1
                There is no ideal, for everything, for all occasions ... there is always a compromise, most importantly, in the right direction!
          2. Diverter
            Diverter April 15 2021 22: 05
            +1
            Still, dear, do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs! The Soviet Mess is primarily a FLOATING, MULTI-WHEEL (8!) APPARATUS !!! Which was thoughtful from all sides.
            I'm embarrassed to ask, how are you going to execute it on this korobchenka or on everyone's favorite tiger, having received an urgent order to cover a tank-hazardous direction? When the only bridge across a river on a regional scale was blown up by some guy? Do you still need to be beyond the river? I will answer for you - no way! Because neither this bucket, nor the tiger can swim through rivers or huge puddles. After all, there are excellent options for modernizing the BRDM 2. Well, upgrade them and it is cheaper to buy new ones and the equipment is more thought out. But no((((
            1. GKA72
              GKA72 April 15 2021 22: 38
              -1
              By the way, the tigers were bought by the internal troops. So draw a conclusion, what is this box for
              1. Blackgrifon
                Blackgrifon April 16 2021 16: 20
                0
                Quote: GKA72
                By the way, the tigers were bought by the internal troops. So draw a conclusion, what is this box for

                And also BB quite recently used PT-76, T-62 and continue to operate armored personnel carriers and MRAPs. So draw a conclusion, who has so many explosives and weapons that you need to arm korobchenki.
            2. Blackgrifon
              Blackgrifon April 16 2021 16: 24
              0
              Quote: Saboteur
              After all, there are excellent options for modernizing the BRDM 2. Well, upgrade them and it is cheaper to buy new ones and the equipment is more thought out.

              They were also modernized - by dismantling the wheels in the middle. The "gift" ones were also overgrown with armor and observation devices. But only some Belarusians were able to really coolly modernize the glove compartment so that it would hold at least a little more mines together with a rifle caliber. In addition, how much resource is left in the glove compartments, what is in service? Despite the fact that they have not been produced for over 30 years.

              And what about the tiger, what is the innovator in the version of the ATGM carrier - this is precisely the minimum necessary protection of the crew and mobility. Buoyancy is excellent (I'm no joke - we have (many) rivers, as in the well-known anecdote), but it sharply reduces the protection of the armored vehicle.
        2. Lisiy Prapor
          Lisiy Prapor April 15 2021 16: 07
          +2
          A tank has an aiming range of 2 km, an ATGM - 5, and detection - for 10.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 15 2021 18: 08
            0
            Misconception ... a modern tank gun hits by 10, it all depends on the ammunition and the aiming device.
            Those. lightly armored vehicles and a land mine are enough, and he flies for 10. Therefore, they are trying to increase the range of destruction of anti-tank missiles, it is much easier to hide and survive.
          2. Bobik012
            Bobik012 April 25 2021 05: 36
            0
            A tank has an aiming range of 2 km, an ATGM - 5, and detection - for 10.

            Did you shoot anything on the ground at all !? Damn theorists! 2 km is a more or less accessible range, 3 km is practically the limit. Further - the folds of the terrain. ATGM by helicopter - 4 - 5 km. Long range only on the high seas in clear weather. 10 m! laughing laughing laughing
            1. Bobik012
              Bobik012 April 25 2021 05: 40
              0
              And yet, yes! Mountains are a separate song. But, I understand, the subject is not for there.
      2. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon April 13 2021 21: 34
        0
        By the way, I was mistaken - in the photo it is not Warta, but their Innovator.
      3. antivirus
        antivirus April 14 2021 04: 22
        -1
        We will go by armored trains to Lviv .............................................. ..........
  6. alex neym_2
    alex neym_2 April 13 2021 19: 14
    +1
    In my opinion, this is some kind of misunderstanding: there are few missiles, they are not protected, the chassis is old ... it would be better if they put a Mercedes pickup on - cheap and cheerful! (In Africa, the tests went off with a bang)
    1. Dimide
      Dimide April 13 2021 20: 05
      0
      And what is "Novator" in your opinion?
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent April 14 2021 07: 06
        -2
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        it would be better for pickup Mercedes set - cheap and cheerful!


        Quote: Dimid
        And what is "Novator" in your opinion?


        And "Novator" is american pickup Ford F550, 4x4 wheel arrangement
        1. Dimide
          Dimide April 14 2021 08: 17
          0
          Keyword pickup
  7. Dimide
    Dimide April 13 2021 19: 15
    +1
    Excellent visibility, with the pros and cons of ATGM.
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 13 2021 19: 49
      -1
      Quote: Dimid
      Excellent visibility, with the pros and cons of ATGM.

      Not you accidentally scattered minuses with your comrades? It became very interesting laughing
      1. Dimide
        Dimide April 13 2021 19: 59
        +2
        Explain your idea. Usually I don't minus for comments, usually they minus me for a different point of view
        Recently the Insurgent with his "accomplices" almost carried out a special operation to drive me into a negative laughing
        1. Andrey Korotkov
          Andrey Korotkov April 13 2021 20: 11
          0
          Quote: Dimid
          Explain your idea. Usually I don't minus for comments, usually they minus me for a different point of view
          Recently the Insurgent with his "accomplices" almost carried out a special operation to drive me into a negative laughing

          I looked at it for a week, I got lost. Minus somehow fell after your comment up, down - maybe wrong, sorry wink
          1. Dimide
            Dimide April 13 2021 20: 25
            0
            Minus 8033 at the moment laughing
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent April 14 2021 06: 59
              -2
              Quote: Dimid
              Minus 8033 at the moment

              So there is a reason. After all, you are lying shamelessly, shielding the native land ...
              1. Dimide
                Dimide April 14 2021 08: 11
                0
                Smiled. You are from the "stoned" and do not accept another point of view
        2. Insurgent
          Insurgent April 14 2021 06: 56
          -3
          Quote: Dimid
          Recently the Insurgent with his "accomplices" almost carried out a special operation to drive me into a negative

          Pan from "Nezalezhnaya", did you not extol my capabilities too much, and at the same time your importance?
          1. Dimide
            Dimide April 14 2021 08: 05
            0
            Go to your story and carefully read your messages if the memory is "girlish"
  8. Aviator_
    Aviator_ April 13 2021 19: 22
    +5
    Why not the Javelin complex? Not enough?
  9. silverura
    silverura April 13 2021 19: 23
    -8
    Quite a functional armored car! Definitely better than UAZ!
    1. Andrey Korotkov
      Andrey Korotkov April 13 2021 19: 52
      -2
      Quote: silverura
      Quite a functional armored car! Definitely better than UAZ!

      Anyway fool , you abandoned the heritage of your ancestors
      1. silverura
        silverura April 13 2021 19: 57
        0
        you abandoned the heritage of your ancestors

        What are you talking about? belay
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  10. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 13 2021 20: 00
    +1
    All these homemade products need funding. Plants, salaries, taxes .. none of the above have chubatykh-no. Perhaps there will be a small batch. Let's see ... I don't believe in the existence of Ukraine. I only believe in the existence of several Ukrainians.
    1. val43
      val43 April 15 2021 11: 40
      0
      I do not believe in the existence of Ukraine.

      "Some believe in Mohammed, some in Allah, some in Jesus.
      Who does not believe in anything, even the devil for evil to everyone ... " smile
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich April 15 2021 15: 12
        +1
        I will believe in the devil faster than in Ukraine)
  11. agoran
    agoran April 13 2021 20: 12
    0
    "The missiles are equipped with a unified semi-automatic laser guidance system"
    "Combat use is allowed at any time of the day, in different weather conditions and in a wide temperature range."
    Brad.
    In fog, smoke, reflective snow / ice surface does not work.
  12. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 13 2021 20: 41
    0
    "Amulet" is distinguished by an open placement of a launcher with missiles and optical devices, without the possibility of their cleaning under the armor.


    They at least provided armored screens to protect containers with missiles in the side projection. Apparently, the designers of Bandera Ukraine are developing weapons exclusively for the genocide of a peaceful unarmed enemy.
    1. val43
      val43 April 15 2021 11: 42
      0
      for the genocide of a peaceful unarmed enemy

      Yeah. ATGM for the genocide of the "peaceful unarmed" ... laughing
      1. Black lotos
        Black lotos April 15 2021 22: 26
        0
        Quote: val43
        ATGM for genocide "peaceful unarmed

        you know there are different tractors ... some have armor, some have killozers ...
        I am already silent about peaceful trains ... laughing
        can say more for collectors laughing
  13. lopvlad
    lopvlad April 13 2021 20: 43
    +1
    Quote: silverura
    Quite a functional armored car!


    its main function is to become a coffin for Bandera.
    1. silverura
      silverura April 13 2021 20: 51
      -9
      for Bandera.

      What's wrong with you? The article is not about them !? request And everything is imagining to you! One hundred gram helps, checked Yes
    2. val43
      val43 April 15 2021 11: 42
      0
      Ban prodovu mariti?
  14. agoran
    agoran April 13 2021 21: 27
    +1
    One line from GSh-23 and nothing will remain of the wunderwafe.
    "Manual reloading", yeah, a special Mikola will come out under fire to reload.
  15. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan April 13 2021 22: 47
    +1
    It's high time to put KAZ on our tanks !!! Then all these ATGMs will instantly become useless.

    When will the fat generals get it ?! Israel, the United States, Turkey, South Korea are already putting KAZ on their tanks, and we are all waiting for the tank brigades to be burned along with people, then the fat men in general's shoulder straps will comb.

    It's a shame for Russia not to have protection for its tanks.

    Our tanks are suitable only as assault weapons to fight against partisans, and any NATO tank will sew our projection in love with both BOPS and ATGM.
    1. Diverter
      Diverter April 15 2021 22: 15
      0
      NATO tank will sew our projection in love with both BOPS and ATGM


      and what is it? haven't you been taught how to use a translator?
      put on a saucepan and go burn the tires
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan April 16 2021 11: 16
        0
        Look at the characteristics of our and NATO tanks and at the capabilities of NATO BOPS and ours.

        And besides, the Israeli KAZ is already being put on the Abrams.

        For the T-72/90, the Abrams of extreme modification in the frontal projection is invulnerable, and with the KAZ, it is protected from ATGMs. Abrams of extreme modification in the frontal projection has protection equivalent to 1100-900 mm of armor, and our BOPSs penetrate 650 mm of armor, and they have all 850.

        No, you can certainly try to board the Abrams, the only question is how many of our tanks he will have time to burn by that moment.

        And if we take into account that NATO is ahead of us in the field of ATGMs, reconnaissance systems, UAVs and attack helicopters, then we have no chance at all.

        And the worst thing is that nothing changes, our tanks are burning in Syria, they are burning in Donbass, and they continue to be praised.

        So who has a saucepan on his head ?!
        1. House 25 Sq. 380
          House 25 Sq. 380 April 17 2021 02: 00
          -1
          In Iraq, Abrams burned from RPG-7
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan April 17 2021 13: 41
            0
            In Iraq, they burned with guerrilla / deviant fire.

            There is no great valor in disguising as a civilian to shoot from a window opening at the side of a tank.

            In a direct battle, when it was necessary to defend the honor of their country, the Iraqi army was smashed to smithereens in a few days.

            The same will happen if our T-72B3M / T-90M meet in a direct collision with NATO tanks.

            Our tanks are inferior to NATO ones in terms of armor protection, both in armor penetration of BOPS and in active protection, we simply do not have it and it is not known when it will appear.

            The only plus of our tanks is the presence of an OFS in the arsenal, which helps when attacking fortified positions, but in a confrontation with modern tanks, ours will be powerless, like the T-26 against German tanks at the beginning of the Second World War, like the T-34 against the German Panther.

            Of course, you can knock it down, under certain conditions, but the price will be too high. For every knocked out NATO tank, we will lose a few of our own.
            1. House 25 Sq. 380
              House 25 Sq. 380 April 18 2021 02: 32
              0
              I mean, Kovpak and Saburov, Davydov and Kozhina did not behave valiantly?
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan April 18 2021 13: 23
                0
                I mean, Kovpak and Saburov, Davydov and Kozhina did not behave valiantly?


                Kovpak, Davydov and other partisans and deversants fought in completely different conditions. Do not compare them with the Iraqis who surrendered in divisions, abandoned serviceable equipment and did not hold a single line, and now, hiding behind civilians, they sometimes ambush the Americans. Moreover, they do this not because of love for the Motherland, but simply because of radical convictions, these radicals also end up in Russia and try to arrange terrorist attacks in our country, as a rule, against civilians.

                To bury a land mine on the road at night, and in the daytime impersonate an ordinary inhabitant, or shoot from behind the civilians at a tank from an RPG and escape is completely different than living in the forest for years in the occupied territory by the enemy, placing a "cheeky" mine in front of a German train under machine-gun fire or carry out a raid behind enemy lines on horseback without the support of the main forces.

                If the Americans fought the same methods as the Germans did during the Second World War, with the taking of hostages, with the burning of villages by punishers, together with the inhabitants, then there would have been no partisans / militants either in Iraq or in Afghanistan for a long time.

                But the point is different, any tank in the lateral projection is vulnerable, that ours, that of the NATO, but the NATO tank penetrates ours in the forehead at a distance of 2-3 km with BOPS, but ours is not. Ours can be an ATGM from 5 km, but now they put KAZ on their tanks and the ATGMs themselves are not cheap, they may not be corny at all.
                1. House 25 Sq. 380
                  House 25 Sq. 380 April 28 2021 02: 11
                  0
                  They fought like that ... The phosphorus bombing of al-Fallujah, for example ... How the Sarn Cross operation differs from the Taliban seizure of Hanabad or the murder of Amrullah Saleh from Kuznetsov's shares remains unclear ...
        2. Diverter
          Diverter April 28 2021 10: 59
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          I repeat, you do. For from the same Syria, everyone knows a video where our tank is holding an ATGM in its frontal projection.
          And yes that! tank with tank is not at war. Except sometimes.
  16. Azimuth
    Azimuth April 13 2021 22: 54
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    Quote: lopvlad
    "Amulet" is distinguished by an open placement of a launcher with missiles and optical devices, without the possibility of their cleaning under the armor.


    They at least provided armored screens to protect containers with missiles in the side projection. Apparently, the designers of Bandera Ukraine are developing weapons exclusively for the genocide of a peaceful unarmed enemy.

    Recharging manually, the screens are likely to interfere. After all, this is not a full-fledged self-propelled anti-tank system similar to ours, but only a combat module for mounting on a chassis with a low carrying capacity.

    In principle, with a large number of troops in the troops, such an option can also deliver problems, especially since two missiles flying at intervals in the same channel guarantee defeat. The economy is simple - a cheap chassis, a crew of 2, and an expensive target in all respects such as a tank or BMP / armored personnel carrier with a crew and a landing party. A platoon of such complexes will cost less than one destroyed target.
  17. Barberry25
    Barberry25 April 13 2021 22: 59
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    "detect at a distance of 13,5 km" ... either the author was mistaken, or the Ukrainians climbed a little ...
    1. Black lotos
      Black lotos April 15 2021 22: 28
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      Quote: Barberry25
      "detect at a distance of 13,5 km" ... either the author was mistaken, or the Ukrainians climbed a little ...

      if you know initially where, to conduct observations from the UAV. Track the target before launching.
      in general, in ideal conditions.
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 April 15 2021 22: 33
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        in laboratory ..
  18. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock April 14 2021 05: 50
    +1
    An armored car as a chassis is redundant here. A pickup truck would be enough.
    For the launcher will be detected immediately after the shot and that the BRDM and the UAZ will be destroyed equally easily. But the "tachanka" has higher maneuverability and there is a chance to have time to escape immediately.
    Hence the uselessness of a large ammunition load, for hit-and-run tactics and 2 missiles are more than enough. Without excess cargo, the car will be easier on the move, and you can recharge later in the shelter, the main thing is to have time to hide there.
    1. Shiden
      Shiden April 14 2021 07: 37
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      Constantine I'm interested in you and in truth graduated from the military department or school. And about pickup trucks, you will see how they went through an evolution in Syria, they began to book not because of a good life. About immediately discovered, people sitting at a monitor in a stone jungle and imagining that there is a steppe or a desert in a war can argue.
      Quote: Jacket in stock
      Hence the uselessness of a large ammunition load, for hit-and-run tactics and 2 missiles are more than enough

      And here I agree with your opinion.
      1. Jacket in stock
        Jacket in stock April 14 2021 11: 34
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        Quote: Shiden
        about pickup trucks, you will see how they evolved in Syria, they began to book not because of a good life

        It's one thing a tachanka for a machine gun / cannon for a prolonged battle, even in a few minutes, and another, as it seems to me, for one shot.
        Although, I would go even further here.
        The launcher on one pickup, and the crew on the other, better in an armored car. He fired a shot, threw the car with the launcher, and ran away. If it doesn't come in response, you don't need to throw it. Better yet, the launcher is on full remote control, but that has already carried me away.

        And I really studied at the military department, and my "civil education" is not so civil.
        1. Shiden
          Shiden April 14 2021 12: 39
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          Quote: Jacket in stock
          The launcher on one pickup, and the crew on the other, better in an armored car. He fired a shot, threw the car with the launcher, and ran away. If it doesn't come in response, you don't need to throw it. Better yet, the launcher is on full remote control, but that has already carried me away.

          I am a realistic person in your judgments, there is no economic feasibility. First of all, fuel, spare parts, and even an extra soldier to keep what's the point in a pickup. In the variant with the "Novator" there is probably a place for a portable launcher, and depending on the situation, the calculation itself can choose how to act.
          1. Jacket in stock
            Jacket in stock April 14 2021 13: 14
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            Quote: Shiden
            .In the variant with "Novator" there is probably room for a portable launcher, and depending on the situation, the calculation itself can choose how to act.

            In the form that there are no options in the photo. The heavy shellezak is tightly bolted to the roof of the armored car.
            And it seems to me that there is economic feasibility. One and a half pickup trucks, one of which is disposable, is anyway cheaper than even a BRDM, not to mention the Novator. And the survival rate of the crew is much higher.
            1. Potomac
              Potomac 9 July 2021 03: 59
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              It is the combat module that is screwed on, the kit includes a machine for use in the infantry version.
  19. Potomac
    Potomac 9 July 2021 03: 51
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    A little clever with performance characteristics. The Luch KB itself, gives 5500 range and 1100 penetration for the RK 2M missile. The BRDM base was tested as a possibility of installation, for implementation in the ter-defense units. They go to the troops with the Novator base. The complex itself is excellent, namely the infantry option. And the possibility of remote control is a separate plus.