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Queen Anne's pistols

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Flintlock pistol, approx. 1770-1780 Made by the gunsmith Ketland (London and Birmingham, before 1831), the silversmith who decorated it - Charles Fit. Materials: steel, wood (walnut), silver. Dimensions: length 21,3 cm, barrel length 10,2 cm, caliber 11,3 mm, weight 300,5 g. As you can see, the trigger with the flint clamped in it is inside the receiver, like later samples of firearms weaponsadopted today! Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York


"Europe can wait."
(Abigal Masham)

History firearms. And it so happened that this kind and gentle queen (for which the people loved her) became the first monarch of the united kingdom of England, Scotland and Ireland. And she ended up in this position at the age of 37, and ... having 17 unsuccessful pregnancies behind her. It was under Queen Anne (1665-1714) that England entered the War of the Spanish Succession, and although she was practically not interested in politics, she managed to rule in such a way that she surrounded herself with a whole galaxy of famous statesmen, military leaders, scientists and writers. In the USSR, it was about this queen based on the play by E. Scribe "A Glass of Water" that the feature film of the same name was shot, which was released in 1979, while filmmakers from Great Britain, Ireland and the United States, in turn, shot their own film on the theme favoritism at the court of Queen Anne, which is called the "Favorite". Well, and the name of this queen was named ... a pistol, somewhat different from those that existed in England earlier.

Queen Anne's pistols
A pair of Queen Anne style box-lock quadruple pistols with artfully inlaid silver wire grips from London-based Perry. Caliber .40, blued barrels, no grooves, with a switch on the left side to select barrels for shooting. PERRY engraved on the left side of the receiver, LONDON on the right side. Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse


Close-up of the Perry pistol lock device. Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse

In general, there was nothing special about the Queen Anne pistol. It was a conventional flintlock pistol with a specific trigger position within the frame. Such locks, unlike conventional flint weapons, in which the parts of the lock were located on the lock board, had a more compact mechanism located inside the box-shaped case, similar to modern pistols. Because of this, by the way, they were often called "box-lock pistols." In addition, another difference was that the ignition hole for the powder and the powder shelf on many of them were located on the top of the barrel, and not on the side, as before. Another feature of this weapon was the "cannon barrel" with a thickening at the muzzle.


Typical queen Anne style flintlock pistol. Caliber .50, barrel length 76 mm. Stamp "H" denotes production in 1780-1781. with the word "ARCHER" on the reverse and "LONDON" on the obverse. Silver oval plate on the back of the box with the coat of arms and initials of the original owner, which have not yet been identified. Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse

But this feature was not as important as another, associated not so much with the appearance of the barrel as with its device. The typical barrel of a Queen Anne pistol is unscrewed with a barrel wrench right in front of the chamber (you can do this with your hands!) And is loaded not from the barrel, but from the breech end. The chamber is long and narrow to match the caliber of the bullet. Because of this design, the bullet for the Queen Anne pistols was larger in diameter than the bore, whereas usually round bullets of that time were smaller in diameter in order to make them easier to load.

At the moment of firing, behind a bullet in such a pistol, a high gas pressure is created before it enters the barrel, due to which a significantly higher muzzle velocity is achieved than in muzzle loading pistols. Therefore, the barrel was often specially made rifled, which further increased the accuracy of firing from such pistols.

First made in England during the reign of Queen Anne, these pistols became popular and ... for some reason they got this name, although it should be borne in mind that the queen died in 1714, and at that time they had just begun to appear. These pistols were of various sizes and calibers, but for some reason they were most often produced as pocket pistols. Hence the many names invented for them: "pocket pistol", "pistol for a waistcoat pocket", and again - "a gun for a clutch".


Some pistols of this type had very short barrels exclusively for shooting at point-blank range. Set by Nicholas Noel Bute, approx. 1805 Versailles. Royal Ontario Museum, Canada

It is interesting that these pistols were produced for more than 100 years, and not only as flint-type pistols, but then also as primer pistols, into which previously released models were very often altered.


The device of the lock of such a pistol from the firm "Drury and Son" from London. Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse

Such a device relieved the owner of the pistol from the need to wrap the bullet in cotton or cloth, or use a ramrod while loading. As a combat weapon, such pistols were not successful, since in the heat of battle, when loading, it was easy to drop a separate barrel. They came up with a swivel joint so that the barrel could be unscrewed, while it would remain attached, but this improvement clearly did not bring success. The most popular "Queen Anne pistols" have gained among civilians as an effective weapon of self-defense. They were often decorated to suit the tastes of wealthy buyers.


By the way, the pistols "Drury and Son" were also supplied with folding bayonets! Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse

Probably the final development of the Queen Anne pistol design took place sometime around 1805, when Mortimer & Co. added a folding trigger and safety catch to it.


Another classic "Queen Anne pistol" from the firm "Mercier" from Liege. Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse

For the wealthiest clients, English and French gunsmiths began to produce complete sets, consisting of a hunting rifle, two large dueling pistols and two small Queen Anne pistols with rich engraving on the barrels, locks and buttstock.

With the advent of capsules, the production of pistols of this type in England continued, only now they began to be made with capsule locks. In fact, it was these pistols that became the ancestors of the famous derringer created in the USA.

In continental Europe, pistols of this type received their own name "terzerol", which comes from the Italian word Terzuolo (hawk). The simplest and usually the cheapest versions of capsule terzeroles served to scare birds away from gardens and vineyards, or for ... hunting. Single and double-barreled versions were produced. Since the XNUMXth century, terzeroli have been manufactured with a flintlock, which in the XNUMXth century was replaced by a more reliable capsule lock.


Capsule "Queen Anne Pistol" by David Columbell. Caliber .58 mm. Collumbell is engraved, trigger guard and trigger are also engraved. Photo courtesy of Alain Daubresse

Due to the high demand for capsule terzeroli, which were produced mainly in Zella-Melis and Liège, many arms companies were engaged in their production, and they produced them from the middle of the 1930th century to the end of the XNUMXs of the last century.

Interestingly, the English gunsmith Harvey Walklate Mortimer, who was the personal gunsmith of George III (1730-1820), took a special interest in the loading mechanism, which is believed to have been invented by the Florentine gunsmith Michele Lorenzoni (d. 1733). Lorenzoni's sophisticated internal system allowed up to ten consecutive shots to be fired using charges (bullets and gunpowder) from a magazine hidden inside the grip. When the lever was turned one hundred and eighty degrees forward and then back, the pistol was reloaded and was already cocked, so the shooter had only to add gunpowder to the shelf. Mortimer's meticulously constructed pistols of the Lorenzoni type reflect his high level of craftsmanship and ... the technical perfection of Lorenzoni's own design.


It is believed that it was Mortimer who made the pistol that belonged to Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson (1758-1805), as its heraldic insignia are engraved on the barrel and on the grip plate. Metropolitan Museum, New York


The same pistol disassembled and with a set of accessories, including a key for unscrewing the barrel. Metropolitan Museum, New York


"Nelson's Pistol". Left side view of the reloading handle. Metropolitan Museum, New York

To be continued ...
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  1. Catfish
    Catfish April 24 2021 04: 57
    +9
    Good morning friends!
    Vyacheslav, thank you for the interesting and beautiful article. Of course, I knew about these pistols, but this was the first time I heard about the Lorenzoni system.
    So Nelson had a repeater pistol? I wonder why? Was the admiral going to board? smile

    I remember the film "A Glass of Water" well, I liked it from the first viewing.

    1. kalibr
      April 24 2021 06: 10
      +6
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Was the admiral going to board?

      And show-off? Ponty have not gone anywhere!
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 24 2021 06: 19
        +4
        "Nothing worldly is alien to us," is it? wink
      2. depressant
        depressant April 24 2021 06: 36
        +3
        Good morning, Vyacheslav Olegovich! Good morning everybody! )))
        We do not take care of our health. It's so early, and we're already grabbing the pistols. I figured out how to take it - with such and such a handle. And, you know, it didn't seem very convenient to me. Either my hand is crooked, or the handle is not ergonomic. In another article I saw the teaching staff, he mentally immediately lay down in his hand, as it should. It is bad to be sharpened under the modern type of weapon civilization - in ancient weapons only the marvelous beauty of the product is seen, but not the convenience of use. But, I suppose, there were masters of shooting without a miss, and there were a lot of them - judging by the number of historical and literary corpses.
        1. kalibr
          April 24 2021 06: 55
          +3
          Quote: depressant
          there were masters of shooting without a miss,

          Good morning to you too! This is exactly what happened. And about the fact that "early" is good: whoever gets up early, God gives him.
          1. depressant
            depressant April 24 2021 07: 27
            +5
            Well, to whom what - serves! (((((laughing )))))
            I was given the need for Saturday cleaning, and my hands are terribly sore and periodically go numb, sometimes one or the other - from shoulders to fingertips. I, as always, spit on it, in contrast to one of the current noble piece-workers, who, out of hunger - well, must! - parts of the body began to grow numb, and I have been living with this for many years. Well, this is so, by the way, as a joke, just to laugh at yourself and at whom it will turn out. But the decoration of weapons, these boxes for storing weapons - planed, polished and lovingly polished and appropriately decorated - really touched the imagination and it rushed to gallop into bygone eras, plunged into the haze of times with their indescribable aroma: the ancestors lived beautifully and scary !
            1. kalibr
              April 24 2021 07: 39
              +2
              Quote: depressant
              from shoulders to fingertips.

              Massage!
              1. depressant
                depressant April 24 2021 08: 48
                +4
                So I do it and rub my shoulders with gel, otherwise I would not go to the site. There was a time when, in order to earn money for an apartment, I, robbed by everyone, had to work hard and terribly, and even then all this came to me, an elegant lady, now turned into junk. And I can't say that despondency is not my lot. And for nagging - sorry - so it broke. I guess I'm one of the millions of people like me. Let's just say, an unpleasant kind of solidarity, but I have no other way with millions. And only visits to the islets of culture in the form of wonderful articles about the idealized past due to its remoteness support my very shabby spirit wassat ))))
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 April 25 2021 04: 57
                  +1
                  I believe that there are not only islands, but also continents.
                  And about intensive work in due time: I believe and admire.


                  PS I wonder if I say that the old woman Shapoklyak can be considered a symbol of grace - can this be taken as a compliment?
                  1. depressant
                    depressant April 25 2021 05: 34
                    +2
                    Oh no, Sergei! Shapoklyak is a different type of anxious personality, the exact opposite of me. Shapoklyaks are just those who have been following me all my life, trying to unravel and straighten me in accordance with their patterns, simultaneously causing absent-minded surprise: there are so many much more productive activities in the world! There and then the efficiency - zero!

                    Don't waste your efforts -
                    I look at everything indifferently!
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 April 25 2021 05: 41
                      +2
                      Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I am glad that we were not upset by the literary association.

                      And the old woman is energetic, quite sweet. Loves animals.
                      1. depressant
                        depressant April 25 2021 06: 47
                        +2
                        Sergei, here you are, too - trying to squeeze me into the stable format of your ideas about the relationship between personality type and appearance, age, social status, the presence or absence of material resources. Leave it all empty and not worth your attention. Don't turn into a gypsy! wassat
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 25 2021 07: 10
                        +2
                        Of course it's empty.
                        First, there is no system.
                        I think gypsies have a set of typical phrases and experiences with people.

                        Although in "Alchemist" there is an interesting sketch.
                        So that we know about you - only what you tell.

                        Is there a difference - in the height of 1,55 m or 1,85 m? For the interlocutor - none.

                        Place of residence, attitude to mosquitoes and palm oil, alcohol and collection of birch sap.

                        It matters when a person is alive, and not stereotyped.
                      3. depressant
                        depressant April 25 2021 09: 12
                        +2
                        Gypsies have the main thing - the ability to manipulate a person, gained by the experience of all previous generations. A misfire occurs only when the intellect of the person who has been manipulated exceeds the intellect of the manipulator, and the opportunities to get out of the situation are the same. Smart and cynical just says "No!" The intelligent and well-bred becomes a slave to his good manners and listens to the manipulator, unnoticed by himself falling under the influence of his techniques. And then - lo and behold, and the wallet is already empty! yes wassat )))
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 25 2021 09: 15
                        +2
                        Yes. It is necessary to use the word "No". The set of phrases is template.

                        And there are many tracks.
                      5. Phil77
                        Phil77 April 25 2021 09: 25
                        +2
                        Good morning Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
                        I, too, to this public always say-away! Alternatively, leave Satan! laughing
                      6. Phil77
                        Phil77 April 25 2021 09: 41
                        +2
                        Eh, and it's nice to be cynical nowadays. From a security point of view. Here's an example. Near / conditionally! / A shopping center, a little girl comes up to a man and says: * Uncle, I'm lost, I can't find my parents somewhere in the store. * In Soviet times, a man took the girl by the hand and led to the nearest guard. Now? You take out your mobile phone and call the police with this information. Because? Somewhere not far away there are quite mature uncles who at the moment can * blind * you with a serious accusation in pedophilia. Next? A question of money. By the way, at the time of the call * the lost girl * disappears. Magically!
                        Nobility in the pen? recourse
                      7. depressant
                        depressant April 25 2021 10: 20
                        +2
                        Dear morning, Seryozha!)))
                        Such times, such customs. I went to history, read about Russia. The head is swollen. There was a simple idea that Russia came from the union of tribes, and this idea was taken as the basis of patriotism. Well, no, it was washed out to the ground. Who founded, what founded, where did they come from, why did they come, where did they go and where did they go. And now - lo and behold, there was nothing, just a scattered swarming of generational masses moving back and forth. It's like looking at an antique through a microscope. Instead of a single artistic value, you will see mountains and bumps - a dull and strange geographical landscape. So sometimes I think: the right people would have composed the correct history and would have taken it as canon. Let it be a myth, but warming the soul.
                      8. Phil77
                        Phil77 April 25 2021 10: 34
                        +1
                        And * digging into myths * in general is an extremely harmful thing. For historians / professional, okay, I admit for amateurs / this is a necessary part of the work. But for the broad masses ... why?
                        And after all, we went through all this in the * nineties *! Suffice it to recall the magazine * Ogonyok * and a certain Roy Medvedev. What have we come to? Well, inevitably, you will think about a certain conspiracy theory. Yes, sorry, and the existing * regime * is pushing its actions towards this ...
                      9. depressant
                        depressant April 25 2021 10: 52
                        +1
                        But how! Numerous peoples and nationalities of Russia should, distracting from the useless conduct of economic affairs by big bosses, it is useful for big bosses to engage in equally useless showdowns among themselves, and if the level of intensity of the showdown exceeds the permissible level, you can walk over the heads with police batons and make a war with neighbors)))
                    2. Phil77
                      Phil77 April 25 2021 11: 07
                      +1
                      About antiques and a microscope, bravo! good
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 24 2021 15: 22
    +1
    Good afternoon. Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I agree with you: "Bote's headset" is made with love.
    You can imagine how the master admired his work, wiped off with a clean cloth, only visible spots to him
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 24 2021 07: 16
    +5
    Good morning, Lyudmila. hi

    In another article I saw the teaching staff, he mentally immediately lay down in his hand, as it should.


    You probably mean the silent PSS? I didn’t have a chance to shoot, I held a pistol in my hands - a rare clumsy pistol, although it was not created for the war. smile
    1. depressant
      depressant April 24 2021 08: 54
      +2
      Kostya, good morning! Yes, there is an article nearby, "Wool", if I'm not mistaken, called a pistol. Why not "Val" that would be understandable. I don’t know how any such thing would fit comfortably on your hand, on mine now - if a heavy Beretta once comfortably lay on it. I am confused by something else: why everyone strives to hold modern weapons with both hands. I suppose they coped with the old ones))))
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 24 2021 09: 27
        +2
        Why not "Val" that would be understandable.


        Because the "VAL" was already in service with our special forces by the time the "Vul" appeared.
      2. Catfish
        Catfish April 24 2021 09: 34
        +3
        As for the grip with both hands, it is as you like, and it depends on the situation. And filmmakers love it, and for the main character's steepness, he still has to shoot, turning the pistol sideways, only in this manner of figs where you get to. smile
        1. depressant
          depressant April 24 2021 10: 14
          +2
          Aha! I immediately remembered a bunch of fragments from American action films, where hmm ... an African American brandishes a giant nickel-plated barrel and shouts something pleasingly in a disgusting, raspy voice to a white police officer. Ah, this "sweet" American pseudo-democracy!
          1. Catfish
            Catfish April 24 2021 10: 45
            +2
            Well, the "brothers from the ghetto" have always been distinguished by an exceptional skill in the use of weapons. laughing
            1. depressant
              depressant April 24 2021 11: 10
              +2
              No, it was shiny nickel plated. At that time I was still thinking: do they really exist, or did the filmmakers come up with it.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish April 24 2021 11: 26
                +2
                For dudes, they sell not only nickel-plated ones, but also decorated with all sorts of rubbish in addition.


                What kind of normal person will fight this? Only on the wall. soldier
                1. depressant
                  depressant April 24 2021 11: 33
                  +4
                  It impresses with an abundance of tinsel. The crown was especially amusing.
                2. Catfish
                  Catfish April 24 2021 11: 48
                  +2
                  Yeah, like "King of the Gangster World" - space for a nigga. laughing
              2. vladcub
                vladcub April 24 2021 13: 51
                +3
                Kostya, what is this other mockery of a revolver? Someone has completely blown off their brains
              3. Catfish
                Catfish April 24 2021 14: 49
                +1
                Hello, Glory. hi
                The petty bourgeois bad taste did not escape the noble "Nagant", but still this is not a complete insanity with its transformation into a starting cracker or a gas worker. negative
              4. vladcub
                vladcub April 24 2021 17: 16
                +2
                Good afternoon. So, what not to do for the sake of show off and profit.
                Count it up: there are revolvers left in the warehouses, it is no longer needed for the army, there is no civilian market for weapons, but there are many pictures that they like to show off. The former is somehow closer to me: show off
              5. Catfish
                Catfish April 24 2021 17: 24
                +1
                This is all understandable, I just don't like it when weapons are castrated, in the museum I tried my best to spoil as little as possible, and did not touch something at all, although I was obliged.
              6. vladcub
                vladcub April 24 2021 17: 46
                +2
                I agree that some of the weapons are a work of art, and they castrate it ... Barbarism
      3. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 April 24 2021 16: 32
        +3
        When I saw the revolver and remembered: "James Bond-Goldfinger". Remember he had a golden pistol?
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 11: 00
    +3
    African American brandishing a giant nickel-plated barrel
    Why immediately "African American"?
    "Your trunk says 'Dummy', and mine says 'Desert Eagle'!" (FROM)
    This catch phrase is uttered by a completely white Englishman.
    1. depressant
      depressant April 24 2021 11: 11
      +3
      And it doesn't always work that way. More often - parity))
    2. Catfish
      Catfish April 24 2021 16: 53
      +2
      Otkedova pearl? And what does the negatives from the "ghetto" have to do with it?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 24 2021 16: 56
        +4
        Feature film "Big jackpot", dir. Guy Ritchie.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish April 24 2021 16: 59
          +4
          I didn’t look, alas. request And what about the blacks? Lyudmila called them somehow completely indecent, you can't even pronounce it, no, just in Russian - a Negro. laughing
        2. depressant
          depressant April 24 2021 18: 33
          +4
          Constantine, do not test my tolerance! wassat She already breathes on incense, barely flickers, I do it this way and that, in every folk way - no, she does not want to live! And you are here with provocations
          (((((((( belay ))))))
        3. Catfish
          Catfish April 24 2021 19: 49
          +3
          ... do not test my tolerance!


          I would ask you not to express yourself, here are almost all decent people, well ... almost decent. stop
        4. depressant
          depressant April 24 2021 20: 08
          +2
          I repent! Sometimes it is harsh, I have two warnings from the Administration. Therefore, as a public prosecutor - in line, Kostya!
          By the way, at the first time - for terry nationalism - I was awarded a red mark, and I was very upset when it was removed after a year. Not knowing how to use the bell and not even knowing its purpose, I found myself on the giant panels of discussions by that mark, and only the need for convenience forced me to master the complex technique of pressing the doorbell button crying
        5. Catfish
          Catfish April 24 2021 20: 44
          +2
          Ha, two warnings ...)) I had eight, there are five left, and nothing prevents me from living. Don't let others stand in line, I'm not a fan. soldier
        6. vladcub
          vladcub April 24 2021 20: 53
          +2
          I had 1 in this life and was already removed, but in the first they decided that I was swearing and banned
        7. depressant
          depressant April 24 2021 21: 10
          +3
          They gave me the second for an elegant allegorical swearing - I relaxed! Why are writers allowed, but not me? The administration, just as gracefully explained to me the extent of my delusion regarding my frail opportunities. I felt like aphid - I was deprived of artistic paints! And so many canvases were in the project ...
        8. Catfish
          Catfish April 25 2021 19: 54
          +2
          Pralno!
          Pushkin wrote: "Souls are beautiful impulses!" ("soul" in this case is a verb) laughing
          What do you want from the local leadership. request
        9. depressant
          depressant April 25 2021 20: 49
          +3
          Sadly I realized that I don't know Pushkin,
          It’s not clear to me what the dogs bark about.
        10. Catfish
          Catfish April 25 2021 21: 13
          +2
          "Now your dogs bark, then the trees say" (c)
        11. depressant
          depressant April 25 2021 22: 56
          +2
          And you are throwing yourself into a cat and fairy tales here, panim, tell!
        12. Catfish
          Catfish April 25 2021 23: 16
          0
          One in two faces ... or muzzles. laughing
        13. depressant
          depressant April 25 2021 23: 41
          +2
          Of the two objects of the face type, one is a muzzle, the other is a face. Two-headed snakes.
        14. Catfish
          Catfish April 25 2021 23: 52
          +1
          ... Two-headed snakes.


          Or the two-facedness of Janus.
        15. depressant
          depressant April 26 2021 00: 12
          +2
          On the left, what do you want to appear, on the right, what are you? Nice beard! Can I pull it ... Can I pull it? Will it come off?
        16. Catfish
          Catfish April 26 2021 00: 16
          +2
          Alas, even in the best of times he did not let go of his beard, and for something that grows in a day, it is unlikely that he will be able to pull. With a beard - to Anton. smile
          But seriously, in any person both evil and good coexist beautifully together.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 22: 57
    +3
    “Only from the life of a dog,
    A dog can be biting ”(c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 23: 02
    +3
    There are also people with biters,
    When they are served on a platter.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 23: 05
    +3
    Who will submit them?
    The art of cannibalism now takes on different forms.
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 23: 14
    +3
    You're right! But the custom of eating a person alive is unchanged at all times. Cinematography reflected the development of the theme. Remember how Hannibal Lector fed the policeman his brains fried in a frying pan.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 23: 23
    +2
    Yes. The eldest daughter likes books. I also read it. There are gypsies there too.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 25 2021 23: 21
    +2
    "Children stomped their feet - u-hu-hu,
    The wolves snapped their teeth - now I will bite!
    Spring cranes are flying - kurly-kurly,
    Our murles spread in tenderness "(c)
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 23: 25
    +2
    “I am an angry and terrible gray wolf.
    I know a lot about piglets ”(c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 23: 47
    +2
    And the pigs know a lot about Corsair -
    They will grind in a flash in the hayloft!
    Only bones and pools of blood -
    We ate the corsair on the mountain!
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 23: 53
    +1
    We'll have to avoid the hayloft and Grimpen Bogs.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 00: 18
    +2
    And the Grimpenskikhs - why on earth? Predatory pigs are not seen there. But ... I'm embarrassed to ask if you were bitten by a dog, sir?
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 00: 36
    +1
    Twice. Once while jogging on the central street of the city of Arkhangelsk.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 07: 35
    +2
    It seems that there is no person who has not been bitten by a person's friend.
    Far East, sore injections.

    11 dogs lived in the kennel of the last Russian emperor Nicholas II. Other members of the Nikolaev family also had favorite dogs. Empress Alexandra Feodorovna doted on the Scotch Terrier named Ayra. Anastasia constantly wore a King - Charles Spaniel in her muff, and Tatyana's favorite was the French bulldog Ortino.

    There were other favorites in the family, one of which was even captured by Karl Bryullov in one of the "home" portraits of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna


    There is no information about the bites received by Nikalai II from dogs.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 10: 37
    +2
    “Yes, the dog is man's friend.
    One. And to another - the enemy "(c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 11: 08
    +2
    So who bit Nicholas II? Crow or stray cat? Imagine a picture: Nikolai, bending low, stretches out his hand for a kiss and tenderly says to the crow: "Tsip-tsip-tsip! Well, well!" And she looked at the dangerous grasping part of the human body, and banged her beak! Can you imagine what a crow's beak is? Well, or it was a cat that snatched Nicholas. And then, with a vengeful frown, Nicholas, resentful of disrespect, pulled out from his belt the pistol of Queen Anne, inherited through a number of generations of ancestors, and made his first surprisingly well-aimed shot at living things!
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 13: 57
    +1
    I can imagine the crow's beak.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 14: 31
    +2
    Dolbanula, it means)))
    But you, based on the breadth of your soul, did not shoot crows and other birds either from a royal pistol or from a weapon suitable for the historical era. Nicholas II became. They say hundreds of thousands. Hence the consequence.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 15: 53
    +1
    No.

    One of the first part-time jobs with a natural product was at school. Traveled on. fields, picking strawberries.

    The crows ate the sandwiches.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 16: 44
    +2
    You clicked with your beak, and they opened wide on someone else's sandwich ... no, not your mouth - the beak!
    Damn ... Disgusting feeling. I went to Samsonov's article, where he implicitly, but in a form that crawls out of all the cracks, is pushing the idea of ​​autocracy ... I remembered these vicious, cut faces, these ryakhi listening to the message - our new nobility. What an abomination!
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 17: 41
    +1
    I'll come home - I'll take a look. Or maybe not.
    There are pretty faces - you can look around.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 19: 46
    +2
    In my prselku several times I saw fabulously beautiful people. One Korean woman, I see it all the time. The rest, Caucasians, disappeared somewhere. They were probably elves.
    Are you driving now?
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 20: 43
    +1
    Not. There was still work to be done.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 21: 37
    +1
    And it's scary when the person behind the wheel answers you. For a person. The person behind the wheel is obliged to answer only if he is in control of the state's helm.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 22: 22
    +2
    Sure. There are situations when you shouldn't be distracted.
  • depressant
    depressant April 26 2021 22: 31
    +2
    Nobody should be distracted from the steering wheel, whatever this steering wheel is. Though a plastic circle is in the hands of the driver of the vehicle, though the threads of fate are in the hands of Moira Atropos. Especially the last one. I got distracted, chiked with scissors accidentally, cut the thread, and the man turned the steering wheel of the car in the wrong place. So it turns out that self-propelled tesla mobiles make sense. Such is the attempt to correct fate.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 27 2021 03: 31
    +2
    Do you think Anthropos is emotional?

    “Everything got bored for a long time
    Three goddesses, prophetic spinners.
    It was dust, it will be dust.
    You spin, spindle "(c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 27 2021 07: 36
    +2
    Actually - "Atropos"))))
    But the subconscious desire to say "Anthropos" is understandable to me. None of the moira has such a radical influence on the fate of a person as Atropos, who possesses a way to end his life.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 27 2021 07: 40
    +2
    Shame on the Jungle!

    Now I think - is it a typo or a prolonged slip.

    "They broadcast the bitter truth
    Their faded lips ”(c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 27 2021 07: 53
    +2
    But you don't have to fade your lips! Do you ever sleep at all? Eat hot! Drink the same. Only not intoxicating)))
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 27 2021 08: 00
    +2
    Great deeds need to be done in the coming year.

    Sauerkraut and tea are always good.
  • depressant
    depressant April 27 2021 09: 16
    +2
    Amazing! I have come to the need to consume sauerkraut recently. And I learned about the usefulness of cabbage in a different sense since the beginning of the 90s. But hope for cabbage in all its senses, but do not lose sleep. I am now also having an attack of mathematical creativity, but it is cabless, it is nowhere.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 27 2021 14: 52
    +2
    I believe in Catherine the Great and Napoleon. 4 hours is enough. What matters is what the rest of the time is filled with.

    And so the classic: "Sleep brings vigor, a faithful companion of good luck" (c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 27 2021 15: 19
    +2
    One of the minor planets, Nyukta, is named after the mother of Morpheus. I really like this name, it's funny! ))) Our Slavic god of sleep is called ... Sleep, and the goddess of dreams is Sandman.
    My dreams are bad, the gods do not love me - neither their own, nor those of others. My dreams are either devoid of human logic, or are so disgusting that sometimes it is impossible to recover from such a dream all day, or occasionally they are prophetic. And only on those rare days, when fatigue twists to the limit, the gods turn out to be merciful to me, taking from my memory the dreams they showed me.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 27 2021 16: 08
    +2
    For some reason I think that you have a penchant for different dreams.

    “I have learned to live simply, wisely.
    Look at the sky and pray to God "(c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 27 2021 17: 02
    +2
    You, Sergei, a poet and romantic, it is easy for you, and although I have learned to live simply, it does not work wisely. For wisdom is not derived from the strange, continuously increasing absurdity of the surrounding life.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 27 2021 18: 42
    +2
    You can't see yourself from the outside. There is enough pragmatism. Life teaches.
    There are interesting people in our life.
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  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 00: 08
    +3
    “And if you lived like a pig,
    You will remain a pig ”(c).
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 26 2021 00: 12
    +2
    "What in summer, what in winter
    A pig is always a pig "(c)

  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 00: 35
    +3
    "Barnyard"?
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 26 2021 00: 36
    +3
    Cattle breeder's nightmares. wassat
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 00: 38
    +3
    It was not so easy for Abel either.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 26 2021 00: 51
    +3
    Well, Cain solved the matter in an elementary way. wink
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 26 2021 01: 03
    +3
    And did it help him a lot?
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 26 2021 01: 38
    +2
    And who knows him, Cain. Understanding the psychology of a killer is beyond my comprehension.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 22: 55
    +2
    "Do not marry female students" (c).
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 21: 05
    +3
    And you immediately hit my forehead, and tick! wassat )))
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 24 2021 21: 36
    +3
    I do not fight women in the forehead. In general, I am kind of old-fashioned: in front of women I try not to express myself, if it comes to the use of force, I remember that a woman is weaker.
    Although there are exceptions
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 21: 51
    +2
    Am I getting it right? When applying force to a woman, you remember that she is weaker, and you measure the unlawful efforts used with the level of her weakness.
    That's what an educated person means! And then others immediately grab the legs and head on the corner - do not measure it!
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 25 2021 09: 46
    +1
    Like this
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 25 2021 19: 59
    +2
    And you immediately hit my forehead, and tick!

    "Bearded Chernomor, Lukomorsky first thief -
    He has long stolen Lyudmila, oh, a cunning!
    Dexterously uses, thaw that he can fly:
    You gape - he grab - and tick! "(C)

    Luda love , if I am present in our Lukomorye, it is exclusively in the form of a Cat with a fume, and Chernomor is someone else. smile
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 21: 04
    +3
    Kostya, the fumes are fumes, but keep an eye on the chain, gold is now in the price. And the chain is a bundle of valuable thoughts, they will steal it without understanding its essence, and then you will not bind a bast without rum.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 25 2021 21: 12
    +2
    Let's do without the gold, as we did before. You forgot that the Cat, besides the fumes, still has God's gift, so let's break through. smile drinks
    At one time, he painted his attitude to the life of that time:
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 22: 10
    +3
    Kostya, do you want to say that this is your little girl? So you are the author? Sami?!?
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 25 2021 22: 24
    +2
    Naturally, I'm saying that the Cat not only smells fumes. At one time he loved to indulge in pen and ink, now his hands are not the same. request

    Here's another of the old ones.
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 23: 07
    +2
    Kostya ... What can I say? Awesome drawings!
    Yes, I remember your images of soldiers, I noted the graphic skills, the ease of the pen, but these ... This is already great creativity
    good drinks )))))
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 25 2021 23: 15
    +1
    Thank you, Luda, very nice. smile love
  • depressant
    depressant April 25 2021 23: 39
    +2
    And how pleased I was to evaluate your skill! Once she dabbled in watercolors, gouache, sanguine and even oil, but the graphics are beyond the possibilities, this is aerobatics. And now, too, everything is in the past, although the box of honey watercolors is still alive, but the vision is such that I have to wear dark glasses even at home wassat )))
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 25 2021 23: 54
    +1
    And for me the color was "beyond the possibilities", I always preferred graphics.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 25 2021 04: 59
    +2
    "Black mark!" (from).
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 19: 11
    +3
    Nothing about blacks, Richie doesn't have enough of them at all. And watch the film, only in the goblin translation, you will like it.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 24 2021 19: 34
    +2
    I'll see if you advise. The last one I watched - "Interstellar", I watched it to the end and with interest.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 19: 44
    +2
    Interstellar is, of course, a thing! Have you seen "The Martian"?
    And yes! Richie's work is from another opera. Black crime comedies. Not to be confused with anything. Except for two shitty films.
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 24 2021 19: 47
    +2
    Richie began to look, there were only familiar faces all around, but the whole beginning of the film was haunted by the feeling that I had already seen this joke with the Hasidim, I will look until I remember.

    But I didn’t see the "Martian" for sure.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 08
    +2
    "Martian" - look. And then, read it. Dafoe and Robinson are resting!
  • Catfish
    Catfish April 24 2021 20: 10
    +2
    I will definitely look, I have already done an advertisement for Seryoga Phil.))
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 30
    +2
    And what, Sergei did not see? Surprised!
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 24 2021 20: 37
    +3
    I saw it, I saw it, because I have more than just sports in my head. angry bully
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 43
    +2
    Offended by my last remark addressed to you? I apologize publicly! On this resource you will not find another who understands the history of sports more than you! My regards! hi
  • Phil77
    Phil77 April 25 2021 06: 39
    +2
    Good morning!
    Come on, it happens, but there are a lot of sports specialists here, good and different. hi
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 25 2021 09: 15
    +2
    I am not familiar with others, at least. At the most, I don't consider them friends.
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 25 2021 09: 59
    +2
    Hello. We actually have a complete site of super experts in all areas.
    Seriously, there are few good “hockey players” to be seen. I'm afraid we are like dinosaurs: "an endangered species". This is understandable: there are not very many of those who remember our national team 70, and it was an INCREDIBLE POWER.
    I compare all hockey games to those, they are the standard for me
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 20: 18
    +1
    I watched both films. Interstellar - three times, albeit long. "Martian" - with a captious interest, trying to understand the intricacies of toilet hydroponics. I remembered the courtesy laws of a Chinese guest regarding the Chinese owner's garden. Survival experience has been gained.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 28
    +2
    I remembered the courtesy laws of a Chinese guest regarding the Chinese owner's garden.
    Not Chinese, Japanese.
    The Chinese, with their loess-based farming principles, are snickering scoundrels, according to the Japanese. The profession of goldsmith in Japan, even in the Meiji era, was more than honorable and respected.
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 20: 38
    +1
    Anton, you cannot deny that the way to maintain the productivity of the owner's garden by emptying the guest's intestines is an outstanding achievement of the advanced agricultural thought of the Chinese people. That is why they did not have goldsmiths! At the very first intestinal urges, every Chinese living in the countryside, sacredly observing the customs of their ancestors, immediately goes to visit another closest Chinese. Culture, however!
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 51
    +1
    I can, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! For in Maoist China, this idea was borrowed from the recent aggressor.
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 21: 33
    +1
    Are you serious?
    I have a bruise of the brain, you ruined my idea that even though the Chinese did not rip anyone off. I didn’t claim that the terracotta army was genuine. I was just talking about cross fertilizing vegetable gardens. Here are my Armenian neighbors in a past life, who sold vegetables from their gardens, did not think of the Chinese method. They did not go to visit to fertilize. Fertilized their own. Or maybe just greedy.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 22: 18
    +1
    Seriously, Lyudmila Yakovlevna.
    Of course, this is only a detail, within the framework of a general sociological history, but this detail cost the lives of "twenty" millions of human beings
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 22: 39
    +1
    So they say that friends do not grow in the garden, even if they are buried there. Actually, I was joking, but it turned out to be sad.
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 24 2021 13: 47
    +4
    Lyudmila Yakovlevna, good afternoon. You are our new amazon, something 'can't see the old amazon, welcome to our company.
    1. depressant
      depressant April 24 2021 14: 21
      +4
      Good afternoon, Svyatoslav! )))
      So I seem to have been in business for a long time, my weapon is my weakness, I once owned it, but God did not put gunpowder in the horn)))
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 April 24 2021 16: 47
        +4
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna, what systems did you use?
    2. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 24 2021 16: 43
      +3
      Actually, it would be possible to pick up another definition in place: "old"
      1. Catfish
        Catfish April 24 2021 19: 53
        +1
        A just reproach! And you broom him, and on the seat, so that you remember how to speak about the ladies is permissible. love drinks
        1. Astra wild2
          Astra wild2 April 25 2021 15: 06
          +1
          Next time I'll whip on the cheeks with a doormat
          1. Catfish
            Catfish April 25 2021 19: 47
            0
            Fi, this is rude, its people are still.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 07: 03
    +4
    They ruined him.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. depressant
      depressant April 24 2021 12: 29
      +2
      By the way, whoever has the opportunity, go to the new Chinese shooter "Naraka". There are crossbows, screw cutters and so on, decorated in a way that none of our Europioid brother would ever dream of even in a fit of wild imagination. What an artistic taste! What a sophistication of the details! An amazing nation is the Chinese. And their school of painting is ancient. Not loving them, I cannot but admit their superiority in this respect.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 24 2021 06: 49
    +6
    Good morning. Yes, the film is wonderful and the article is to match it. I join the words of gratitude, Vyacheslav Olegovich!)
    1. depressant
      depressant April 24 2021 11: 36
      +3
      "Glass of water"? I remember that I watched the play, it must be in the theater! Either in the Small, or in the Moscow Art Theater, there were times.
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave April 24 2021 07: 02
    +6
    So Nelson had a repeater pistol? I wonder why? Was the admiral going to board?
    Apparently, the Admiral did not like Captain Bligh's experience.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish April 24 2021 07: 11
      +4
      Unlike Bly, the sailors loved Nelson, their muzzles were beaten, for educational purposes, by officers of a lower rank.
      And there - who knows. request drinks
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave April 24 2021 07: 24
        +5
        The finale of William Bligh's career shows that lower rank officers, he was not popular either.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish April 24 2021 07: 33
          +3
          Well, here, like anyone else, it all depends on the personality. Nelson was a person, and Bly was not.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave April 24 2021 08: 11
            +4
            and Bly is not.
            I would not be so categorical.
            Bly in Sydney found himself in the situation of Commissar Catani in Palermo.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish April 24 2021 08: 21
              +2
              I am not aware of the history of what happened in Sydney. But, Nelson is Nelson, and no one would have remembered Bly today, if not a mutiny on the ship entrusted to him.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave April 24 2021 08: 26
                +4
                I am not aware of the history of what happened in Sydney
                Googled: Rum Riot.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish April 24 2021 09: 04
                  +2
                  Well, if it comes to rum, then I would rebel too if weaned me off the bottle. Rum is mine, everything I have tried, and this drink is the best, for my taste, of course. smile drinks
                2. Catfish
                  Catfish April 24 2021 09: 13
                  +4
                  I read it. drinks Bligh remained Bligh everywhere, i.e. the mutiny on the "Bounty" taught him nothing, as he was a blockhead and remained with them. laughing

                  First time overboard, second time on kichu. And for his universal stupidity, he was also given an admiral ... Well, the British, you fucking understand them. laughing
              2. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave April 24 2021 09: 28
                +3
                No one would have remembered Blae today, if it had not been a mutiny on the ship entrusted to him.
                They would remember. It was the second expedition, under the command of Bligh, that brought the seedlings of the "breadfruit" to the Western Hemisphere, which subsequently made up a significant part of the diet of the inhabitants of the Caribbean.
                And the riot on the "Bounty" is nothing more than another replicated historical cliché.
                By the way, Bligh at one time served and fought under the command of Nelson.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish April 24 2021 09: 31
                  +1
                  Yes, I know about seedlings, a feat, of course, what the speech is about. laughing
                  Drake, over there he also brought potatoes to Europe, but he also managed to do something besides. smile drinks
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave April 24 2021 09: 46
                    +3
                    feat, of course, what is it about.
                    Yes Yes! And to get a bullet thanks to your own friction (which, by the way, was a direct failure to comply with the orders of the higher command) is heroism for all time! wassat negative
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish April 24 2021 09: 54
                      +3
                      Whose bullet are you talking about? And then, after all, many had - the motto "not every bullet in the forehead" was turned inside out. good
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave April 24 2021 09: 56
                      +3
                      Whose bullet are you talking about?
                      About the bullet of the French shooter that killed Nelson.
                    3. Catfish
                      Catfish April 24 2021 10: 04
                      +2
                      Well, in war - as in war.
                      Here's a closer example. The instructions forbade you to ride tanks on the battlefield with an open hatch, and whoever followed this instruction, in a triplex at a speed you will see what the hell.
                      And starting with Afgan and on Baters, the hatches were no longer closed. Everything is according to the situation, and the instructions are for the inspectors. You know.
                      Peter Alekseevich also wrote about this in his Articles.
                      And Nelson, he's Nelson, because he didn't give a damn about orders. "Snelsonite", you remember that term of the British navy.
                    4. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave April 24 2021 10: 13
                      +3
                      Here's a closer example.
                      A closer example is smoking standing upright on the breastwork of a trench.
                    5. Catfish
                      Catfish April 24 2021 10: 41
                      +2
                      Who distinguished himself so much in our country? I mean from closer examples.
                    6. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave April 24 2021 10: 44
                      +3
                      Junior officers of the Russian Imperial Army in WWI.
                    7. Catfish
                      Catfish April 24 2021 10: 54
                      +2
                      Patriotic and Afghan are still closer. Although, how to look, if closer to Nelbson, then - yes, the First World War. smile
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 24 2021 20: 01
    +3
    The tribunal nevertheless acquitted.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 18
      +2
      It would be strange if I didn’t justify it. Bly acted without deviating from the charter, and most importantly (!) The naval traditions of Britain (which, in fact, is the main justification factor).
      P.S. I thought you would mark another merit of Bly, to biology ...
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 April 24 2021 20: 40
        +1
        It didn't really work out with the breadfruit that time. And he was one of the first to bring 15 orchids to England.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave April 24 2021 20: 53
          +2
          First or second? Bounty or Providence?
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 April 24 2021 21: 18
            +2
            He has already delivered a breadfruit to Providence.
            Only not very much the slaves on the plantations liked its fruits.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave April 24 2021 21: 26
              +2
              "These little animals are such disagreeable things!" (FROM)
  • Richard
    Richard April 24 2021 18: 44
    +4
    I remember the film "A Glass of Water" well, I liked it from the first viewing.

    hello, Konstantin hi
    Two-part and EMNIP melodrama with a comedy bias

  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman April 24 2021 20: 37
    +2
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Was the admiral going to board?

    Would purcua not be pa?
    No matter how Horace Edmundovich was born admiral and went through all the steps. A letter to his wife has survived, where the future Baron of Nile complains that he did not get a very popular ship, which is why the prizes (and, accordingly, prize money) were not so much as he was counting on.
  • Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka April 24 2021 05: 01
    +6
    Found what I was looking for! I'm going to make some coffee!
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, a couple of more years and I personally "like Pavlov's dog" on Saturdays can only feed under your article! laughing
    Interestingly, our brother can already be diagnosed and wait! good
    By the way, thanks for the morning reading! drinks
    1. Alien From
      Alien From April 25 2021 16: 12
      +1
      Good time! I join you, Olegovich spoils us, thanks to him hi
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 24 2021 05: 51
    +3
    Why "box lock"? Didn't it have a specific name:boxlock flintlock pistol ... or simpler boxlock , if we are only talking about the type of castle? Or does it seem to me? what
    1. kalibr
      April 24 2021 06: 09
      +4
      boxlock - that's the name: box - box, lock - lock ... The Russian language is 20% less informative, therefore, when translating, you have to shorten their phrases, and when vice versa, lengthen them by 20%, respectively.
    2. Undecim
      Undecim April 24 2021 08: 02
      +2
      It seems. In Russian-language weapons terminology, the term "box-type salvage" has existed for more than a hundred years and is understandable to all specialists.
      It is incomprehensible to non-specialists in any language. Expertise ...
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 24 2021 09: 38
        0
        Quote: Undecim
        In Russian-language weapons terminology, the term "box-type salvage" has existed for more than a hundred years and is understandable to all specialists.

        Where did you find the "Russian-language terminology"? Beginning with Peter I, "Russian terminology" represents a set of borrowings from German, Dutch, English, and then French ... , Finnish-Ugric ... do not forget about Latin and about the "Jews"! And what is the current influence of "Anglo-computer" terminology on the Russian language? Yes, there were attempts to introduce "truly Russian terminology" into Russian everyday life ... for example, it was proposed to call the horizon okoy ... and so on. , and in that spirit ... Well, where is this okoy? I have always found it more convenient to pronounce, write boxlock than "box lock" ....
        1. Undecim
          Undecim April 24 2021 11: 35
          +3
          I found Russian-language terminology in Russian.
          Have you decided to strike, to put it correctly, in demagoguery, or to discuss issues of semantics?
          So is the article on weapons.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I April 24 2021 12: 17
            +2
            I do not intend to answer your "vague" claims and not entirely correct conclusions ... stop
        2. depressant
          depressant April 24 2021 11: 47
          +1
          What about modern terminology?
          All of these - shredder, plotter, overhead, deflot, marketing, dealer, offshore, hype, fake ... They have no number! But there is no other way to put it. Behind every word is a layer of meaning, which takes a long time to explain in many sentences. And he said such a word, one, and everything is clear.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 24 2021 07: 26
    +4
    1. Loading boxlock pistols ....

    2. Capsule boxlock ....

    3. And even a hairpin boxlock ... (reworked ...)
  • Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper April 24 2021 10: 37
    +2
    Thank you. IN.
  • iouris
    iouris April 24 2021 11: 36
    +2
    History teaches that it teaches nothing.
    It's still worth trying to learn the lessons.
    It was under Queen Anne, who allegedly "was not interested in politics" "surrounded herself", that Britain became an empire. Here some contemporaries are very interested in politics, but there is no result. Maybe it's the "environment"?
    Although .... here you are not England - you need to dig deeper.
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 24 2021 13: 35
    +3
    Comrades, good day ..
    Again V. O. decided to "scoff," at us: we will have to read and think.
    Almost always, after Valery and V.O., I have a desire: to read more or see about this era. For example, after Winchester I revisited several old westerns, and now, apart from: "Glass", I don't know anything about that era
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 13: 46
    +3
    And by the way ... I didn't make up my mind yesterday, at "Swords", suddenly a good man paul3390 would be offended. He posted a photograph of military armor. The armor is such that it became the reason for my fun throughout the day. I christened them "Transformer Plate". If you want - get inside, if you want - use instead of a stove-stove.
    Hmmm ...
    And today it is already sad. At least yesterday it was autumn, but today winter has returned to the Moscow region. Snowfall is endless in the morning, white cover is everywhere. Or maybe in case of cold weather that shell was really used as a stove? There is clearly good traction.
    1. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 24 2021 15: 57
      +2
      Yesterday we had a "summer" +22 light breeze, and today: +14, cloudy and cold wind
    2. Korsar4
      Korsar4 April 24 2021 20: 03
      +1
      Winter is over. April is rainy. It's good outside. Especially when you come to the warmth.
      1. depressant
        depressant April 24 2021 20: 25
        +2
        Come on, Sergei! Remember your famous "Winter is Coming"? So they prophesied. Today's freshly fallen snow has just begun to melt. Lumps are falling from the roof, knocking on the windowsill. The long-awaited autumn is approaching.
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 April 24 2021 20: 45
          +1
          Are mosquitoes behaving well?
          1. depressant
            depressant April 24 2021 21: 20
            +3
            Imagine they are better forecasters than certified ones. They appeared and immediately, biting in a hurry, disappeared, just as there were none, and it immediately became clear that the time of year was determined incorrectly, an inversion occurred, and here it is -

            autumn-bad weather, on the grass of snow,
            it was not the heel that left the mark - the mark from the boot!
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 April 25 2021 04: 51
              +1
              And you will make a comparison: about 100 days.
              Forecast and then reality.

              You do not need to include mosquitoes in the plate.
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 24 2021 14: 23
    +3
    Comrades, something tells me that: "Mortimer-Lorenz" could not be serial in any way.
    It is not suitable even for those with little sympathy. Too expensive
  • vladcub
    vladcub April 24 2021 14: 36
    +2
    "Queen Anne's pistol" comrades, but such a question: Anna, Maria, or some other queen, owned a firearm?
    Perhaps I am mistaken, but of the female monarchs, someone owned a firearm. I do not remember.
    1. depressant
      depressant April 24 2021 15: 37
      +3
      Yes, something and no information. About the current Queen of England, only the following is known:
      The Queen is the only female member of the British royal family to serve during World War II. At that time she was only 18 years old, and she was a princess. She joined the Women's Territorial Auxiliary Service and learned how to change the wheels of cars, drive a military truck, ambulance and other vehicles.


      Elizabeth even learned how to repair cars! But nothing is said about whether she owned a weapon. Apparently, this is not a royal matter, there are guards.
      1. depressant
        depressant April 24 2021 15: 42
        +2
        And by the way. It looks like the queens' weapon is endurance, not firearms.

        In 1982, a man who had escaped from a mental institution climbed a drainpipe into Buckingham Palace and entered the Queen's room. When Elizabeth woke up, the man was sitting on the edge of the bed, covered in blood. Instead of panicking or screaming, Elizabeth chatted with the man for about ten minutes. He told her about his personal problems and relationships with children. It was all over when the royal footman finally woke up. The man was detained and taken back to the psychiatric clinic. The Queen, as always, was unperturbed.
        1. depressant
          depressant April 24 2021 16: 26
          +3
          As for our empresses.
          Of all the activities, Anna Ioannovna preferred hunting ...
          This Diana on the throne amazed her contemporaries and descendants with the number of ruined beasts. In the summer season in Peterhof, not a day passed without target shooting, and the empress preferred live targets. In winter, Anna Ioannovna shot jackdaws, seagulls and pigeons flying by flying by right from the windows of the Winter Palace. Walking through the halls and talking with those close to her, the queen suddenly grabbed loaded guns that were at the ready and fired at the unfortunate birds ...
        2. vladcub
          vladcub April 24 2021 16: 56
          +2
          I remember there were quite a few about this incident.
          1. depressant
            depressant April 24 2021 17: 07
            +2
            Glad to remind you.
            Central Asia was also noted for its warriors, who flawlessly wield weapons.
            In particular, according to the testimony of Marco Polo, such was in 1260 - 1306 Khutulun - the daughter of the most influential ruler in Central Asia, Kaidu. From early childhood, Khutulun accompanied her father on military campaigns and became known as an excellent and secretive warrior. Witnesses said that she could enter enemy territory and free any captive as easily as a hawk grabs a chicken. The ruler Kaidu hoped for his daughter as a warrior, listened to her political advice and wanted to be named the next khan, but because of his male relatives, this turned out to be impossible.
    2. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 April 24 2021 16: 04
      +2
      Empress Anna Ivanovna knew how to shoot a musket, probably Elizabeth and Catherine 2
    3. Undecim
      Undecim April 24 2021 17: 04
      +5
      How many of the female monarchs did you know?
      1. Richard
        Richard April 24 2021 18: 58
        +4
        Greetings, Victor Nikolaevich hi
        Here Vera is right
        Empress Anna Ivanovna knew how to shoot a musket, probably Elizabeth and Catherine 2

        the hunting rifles of Catherine II have been preserved.
        1. Undecim
          Undecim April 24 2021 20: 21
          +2
          Good evening!
          Vera is right, but I addressed the question to Svyatoslav.
          1. vladcub
            vladcub April 24 2021 21: 04
            +2
            Vic Nick, I'm going to a dinner party with Prince Grimaldi. It remains to iron the laces And how many women monarchs you know?
            Seriously though, I read at Pikul's that Anna Ioanovna fired a musket, but I forgot a little.
            1. Undecim
              Undecim April 25 2021 15: 22
              +3
              How many female monarchs have you met?

              On one, but noddingly. And close to no one.
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 April 25 2021 23: 46
                +3
                Intrigued.
                Denmark?
                Only at the party?

                I think it would be interesting?
                Probably, if it happened on an equal footing.

                But that would require finding Professor Higgins.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim April 26 2021 09: 41
                  +4
                  Intrigued.
                  Denmark?

                  The intrigue is much deeper !!! Eswatini.
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 April 26 2021 10: 40
                    +4
                    For me it is also Swaziland. I haven't looked at the map for a long time.
                    1. Undecim
                      Undecim April 26 2021 10: 45
                      +4
                      Yes, I myself accidentally drew attention. There, the queen is very colorful.
                      1. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 26 2021 13: 53
                        +3
                        Very interesting. A completely unfamiliar world.
                      2. Undecim
                        Undecim April 26 2021 14: 04
                        +4
                        There are these worlds ... Only in South Africa there are a dozen types of blacks. Each has its own world.
                      3. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 April 26 2021 15: 49
                        +3
                        “Crocodiles, palms, baobabs,
                        And the wife of the French ambassador "(c).
                      4. Undecim
                        Undecim April 26 2021 15: 54
                        +3
                        If the children of Limpopo
                        We lived without being sick
                        We would not know what is,
                        In the world of Barmaleya
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 April 24 2021 15: 52
    +2
    "having 17 unsuccessful pregnancies behind me" as a woman, I'm sorry for her. She passionately wanted to have a child and after each failure, she cried and prayed to the Almighty to give the child
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 16: 49
    +4
    Svyatoslav, well, you asked me a job))
    In fact, many noble ladies of the past and even queens owned weapons. The search engine finally understood me and began to give out something.
    For example, Jeanne de Montfort.

    She was the consort of John IV, Duke of Brittany during the conflict between the houses of Blois and de Montfort over control of the Duchy of Brittany. This became known as the Breton War of Succession from 1341 to 1364, during the era of the Hundred Years War. When John died in 1345, Jeanne organized a resistance to protect her son, John V, Duke of Brittany. She took up arms and put on armor, defending the city and urging women to "cut their skirts and take safety into their own hands." Leading a detachment of knights outside the city walls, she attacked the enemy rear camp, set it on fire and destroyed, and this was just one of her many exploits. The writer Jean Froissart said that "the heart of a lion was unheard of."
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave April 24 2021 16: 54
      +3
      Let me remind you of one more name: Alienor of Aquitaine.
      1. depressant
        depressant April 24 2021 17: 23
        +3
        The other day we talked about the armor of Genich VIII and along the way walked through his wives. Then I got the impression, because I didn't go deep into the question, that his first wife Catherine was just a lady "pleasant in all respects", but in fact it was not so - she was still a lady! True daughter of Isabella of Castile
        When Henry went to war with France, he appointed his wife regent of England. Learning that England was temporarily ruled by a queen and not a king, the longtime enemies of the British - the Scots - rejoiced and began an invasion. Catherine developed a defense plan and she herself directed it, and on September 9, 1513, in a decisive battle, the British defeated the Scots. Catherine sent Henry a letter and as a gift - the bloody shirt of the Scottish King James IV, who died in battle. I'm sorry for Jacob. He was the son of the executed Mary Stuart. Such is the fate.
  • depressant
    depressant April 24 2021 19: 23
    +1
    ... And now I'm walking down the street. In addition to perfume shops, there are also hunting shops. They sell weapons freely. Mauser, Nagan, Browning, Smith-Wesson, and here in the window and Parabellums. Ladies' models that fit in a woman's handbag. Velodogs are cyclist revolvers designed for effective protection from dogs. You can easily buy even a Maxim machine gun made in Tula ... I open the latest issue of the Ogonyok magazine, I read an advertisement. Along with advertisements for "cologne with a wonderful scent of Dralle", photographic cameras "Ferrotype" and the remedy for hemorrhoids "Anusol" - advertisements for revolvers, pistols, hunting rifles. Production - Belgium, caliber 6.35 mm. Lightweight, only 350 grams, but has 6 rounds. And what cartridges! Makarov pistol cartridge 9 mm and Browning cartridge 6.35 mm Cartridges were created specifically for this model. Shell bullet, smokeless gunpowder (3 times more powerful than smoky powder). Such a cartridge is more powerful than a revolving cartridge of the same caliber. Browning's model is very successful. The pistol measures only 11.4 x 5.3 cm and fits easily in the palm of your hand.
    Market traders are armed, the concept of "racketeering" is absent. Browning can be worn discreetly - for men it even fits in a vest pocket, and for ladies - in a travel case, light weight, weak recoil - it's decided! I buy a "lady's pistol".
    Hmmm ... Where dreams lead ... Peaceful pre-war spring of 1914.
    1. Senior seaman
      Senior seaman April 24 2021 20: 43
      +3
      Quote: depressant
      there is no concept of "racketeering" at all

      You are mistaken, dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna. The revolutionaries paid tribute to the merchants, where are the retired athletes of the late 80s - early 90s :)))
      1. depressant
        depressant April 24 2021 21: 03
        +1
        Dreams turned me on, and you are a colleague, they dragged me out of them by the scruff of my neck! Dreams are shattered, the scruff hurts! crying wassat
        1. Richard
          Richard April 24 2021 22: 13
          +3
          And now I'm walking down the street. In addition to perfume shops, there are also hunting shops. They sell weapons freely. Mauser, Nagan, Browning, Smith-Wesson, and here in the window and Parabellums. Ladies' models that fit in a woman's handbag. "Velodogi" - cyclist revolvers designed for effective protection from dogs

          Greetings, Ivan hi
          Greetings, Lyudmila Yakovlevna hi
          Cycling "- revolvers for cyclists, at that time it was easy to give out completely free of charge when buying a bicycle. Prices are simply not comparable. Lisaped in 1914 cost more than 10 times more expensive than any pistol.
          I will give the price tags from "Niva"
          bicycles:


          pistols:


          1. Richard
            Richard April 24 2021 22: 15
            +2
            Well, the prices of guns


            and here is the "Mauser" stock included
          2. depressant
            depressant April 24 2021 22: 34
            +3
            Dmitry, my respect! hi )))
            Parabellum would definitely take it! Rapid fire with seven shots, barrel long enough for accuracy.
            1. Richard
              Richard April 25 2021 00: 09
              +3
              And I would buy the perfume "Brocar" or "Ralle", the famous Apricot chocolate and various delicious treats and send it all to my great-grandmother. In 1914, after the orphanage, she just entered the teacher's courses.






  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman April 24 2021 20: 41
    +2
    Once again I was convinced that the ancestors are no more stupid than you and me. I kept the idea of ​​a similar pistol for an alternative in a storehouse, it turns out that everything is stolen / invented before us :)))
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 25 2021 14: 33
    +1
    Quote: Sea Cat
    So Nelson had a repeater pistol? I wonder why? The admiral was about to participate in the boarding

    The general sends in the attack, and the admiral leads. And the admiral's ship can be attacked in the same way as any other in its group. The admiral has no guards, the sailors have enough of their own worries. So he could participate in boarding, and reflect attempts at boarding. Such is the sea ...