Combat ships. Cruisers. Not perfect, but hard to sink

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The beginning of the series of these ships was here:

Combat ships. Cruisers. Shot damn thing that didn't come out lumpy



The Pensacola was the debut of a new generation of American heavy cruisers, and despite some opinions, it turned out to be a pretty decent ship. Naturally, not without flaws. This meant that work on the errors was required.

And this was the work of the ships of the "Northampton" class, which made up the second series of "Washington" cruisers.



In general, the new ships differed from the Pensacola quite significantly on the one hand, but not so critical that they could not be called a new project. In general - a deep alteration under the prevailing conditions.

The displacement was within the same contractual 10 tons. But the "Northamtons" were originally planned as flagships on fleets (No. CA29, 30 and 31) and in squadrons (No. CA 26, 27 and 28). That is, at the design stage, premises were laid on them for the placement of headquarters and command personnel of the appropriate size.

Increased booking and installed aircraft hangars (for the first time in the American fleet) and catapults.

Naturally, the displacement is not rubber, so I had to sacrifice something. Donated one gun turret at the stern. There were three towers left, two at the bow and one at the stern, but the towers were all three-gun. The number of barrels dropped to nine, but this scheme was considered successful and became a classic for all American heavy cruisers in the future.



Minus the turret and the gun gave a saving of about 215 tons.

And if you remember that the Pensacola was designed and built with a displacement of 1 tons less than the contractual framework, then the savings could be thrown into increasing the reservation.

It was decided, first of all, to strengthen the booking of artillery cellars, elevators and mechanisms for feeding shells and gunpowder so as to protect the enemy's 203-mm guns from fire. However, the calculations showed that it would not be possible to provide effective protection against the fire of enemy heavy cruisers, even despite the total savings of 1275 tonnes of displacement.

As a result, we came to the following scheme. In total, 1 tons were spent on booking. The main armor belt had a thickness of 075 mm along its entire length, plus 76 m below the waterline. The armored deck was 1,5 mm thick. The armor of the artillery cellars was increased to 25 mm on the sides and to 95,25 mm on the top. The armor of the turrets of the main caliber was increased: the frontal part - 50,8 mm, the top - 63,5 mm, barbets - 50,8 mm.

In general, it is better than Pensacola's, but conditionally. Based on the test results, such a booking scheme could protect artillery cellars from 127-mm destroyer shells at distances of more than 6,5 km, from light cruisers' shells (a Japanese shell was taken as a sample) with 155-mm caliber at a distance of 9,5 km, from shells with a caliber of 203 mm at a distance of 19 km.
A 155-mm projectile pierced the engine room from a distance of almost 12 km, a 203-mm projectile from 22 km.

Overall, better than Pensa. But not much. That, in fact, the military service showed later.

The length of the hull of the cruisers was 182,9 m, in the waterline area - 177,4 m. In peacetime, the usual displacement was 9200 tons, the maximum displacement was 10544 tons, in the military - 9350 tons and 14030 tons, respectively.

Power point

The propulsion system consisted of eight White-Forster boilers and four TZA with Parsons turbines, which were manufactured under license by Brown-Boveri. The turbines rotated four propeller shafts. The power of the power plant was 109 hp, which allowed the ships to reach a speed of 000 knots.

The fuel tanks held 2 tons of oil, providing a cruising range of 108 miles at a cruising speed of 10 knots.

weaponry

It was on the Northampton-class cruisers that the epoch-making decision was made - to abandon the system used on the Pensacola, that is, from two types of towers. This is quite a wise decision, as it greatly simplified construction.

Two projects were considered, either eight guns in four towers, or three towers with three barrels. The second project won, since it made it possible to somewhat shorten the ship's hull. And it turned out to be something average, since 9 guns is, on the one hand, less than the Penskakola or Mioko, but more than 8 guns of German or British cruisers. Let's just say - the golden mean.

Main guns the Northampton-class cruisers had the same 203-mm / 55 guns in the Mark 14/0 or Mark 9/2 turrets. The Mark 14/0 turret differed from the Mark 9/2 in a slightly smaller size and volume, while the Mark 9/2 had the upper part tilted slightly towards the trunks.

Mark 14/0 type turrets were installed on the cruisers Northampton, Augusta, Chester and Louisville. Mark 9/2 were on Houston and Chicago.



The location of the towers was as follows: two towers with three guns, each linearly elevated in the bow and one tower in the stern.

The 203 mm / 55 gun could fire a projectile weighing 118 kg with a warhead mass of 40,4 kg and an initial flight speed of 853 m / s at a distance of 29 km.

Combat rate of fire was 3-4 rounds per minute. Ammunition for one barrel was 150 rounds.

Auxiliary / anti-aircraft artillery

The auxiliary artillery consisted of eight universal 127 mm / 25 guns. The firing range for surface targets was 13,5 km, for air targets at an elevation angle of 85 degrees - 8,3 km. Combat rate of fire was 12-15 rounds per minute.



As an anti-aircraft weapons short-range, 37-mm machine guns were to be installed, but the Colt company did not have time with the development by the time the ships were built. Therefore, the cruisers received eight Browning machine guns with a caliber of 12,7 mm, which was definitely not enough. But then no one thought about it, but the surprise came a little later.



As soon as the war began, and for the United States it began with a cold shower in Pearl Harbor, it became clear that more effective protection was needed against aviation... And in 1941, generally useless machine guns were replaced by two quad mounts of anti-aircraft guns with a caliber of 28 mm.

Combat ships. Cruisers. Not perfect, but hard to sink


The Chicago Piano also turned out to be a very capricious and unsatisfying air defense system.

Mine torpedo armament

The cruisers received two 533 mm three-tube torpedo tubes. The devices were located onboard in the hull of the cruisers below the aircraft hangar.



Aircraft Armament

A hangar for four aircraft was located in the stern of the ship. Plus, two more planes could immediately stand on catapults. But this was not practiced, and usually the ships carried four aircraft from the firm Vought O2U and O3U "Corsairs". During the war, they were replaced by the more modern Curtiss SOC "Seagull" and Vought OS2U "Kingfisher".



To install the aircraft on the catapult, two five-ton cranes were installed on board.

Crew and habitability

The cruisers "Northampton" were the first American ships to have bunks instead of hammocks for sailors. The innovation was appreciated and the ships enjoyed a reputation for being very comfortable. And when compared with its predecessor, Pensacola, the amount of living space at Northampton has grown by 15%.

The number of the crew of the Northampton-class cruisers was 617 people, excluding the headquarters deployed.

Upgrades

At the very beginning of the war, one thing became clear: it was necessary to strengthen the air defense.

And here the weight saving for booking played a role, resulting in some underloading of ships. It turned out very pleasant for the Americans - there was no need to remove the artillery towers, as the British did. We limited ourselves to removing torpedo tubes, one catapult and one crane from all cruisers.
In addition, the 28 mm assault rifles were removed.

And in the vacated places, both in weight and in area, air defense systems were placed according to the principle "do not deny yourself anything."

Northampton received 14 20mm Oerlikon assault rifles.

Chester received 13 twin 20-mm Oerlikon units, 4 twin 40-mm Bofors units, and 5 quadruple 40-mm Bofors units.

Louisville received 13 twin 20-mm Oerlikon units, 4 twin 40-mm Bofors units, and 5 quadruple 40-mm Bofors units.

"Chicago" received 20 20-mm installations.

Augusta received 20 20-mm Oerlikon units, 2 twin 40-mm Bofors units, 4 quad 40-mm Bofors units.

"Houston" did not have time for modernization programs, the improvement of air defense consisted of three 76-mm anti-aircraft guns.

Combat application



All six Northampton-class heavy cruisers have repeatedly distinguished themselves in battles, for which they received the insignia of the US Navy command - battle stars, the so-called "Battle Stars".

Louisville has received 13 such stars.
Chester has been awarded 11 stars.
Northampton received 6 stars.
Augusta and Chicago each won three stars.
"Houston" received only two, but for the battle in the Sunda Strait, the cruiser received the gratitude of the President of the United States.

Northampton



The beginning of the war, that is, the moment when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, Northampton was at sea, escorting the aircraft carrier Enterprise. Further, the cruiser took part in all significant operations of the American navy in the Pacific Ocean.

Most significant in stories the ship was escorted by the aircraft carrier Hornet in the Doolittle raid and the aircraft carrier Enterprise during the Battle of Midway.

The Northampton accompanied the Hornet during the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands and its crew took part in attempts to rescue the aircraft carrier, and then in the evacuation of the crew.





On November 30, 1942, Northampton took part in her last battle, the Battle of Tassafarong. A detachment of American ships (4 heavy, 1 light cruiser and 6 destroyers) came across a convoy of Japanese ships of 8 destroyers.

The Japanese were taken by surprise, and American ships, firing on radar data, quickly sunk the Japanese destroyer Takanami with artillery fire. In response, the Japanese fired a large number of torpedoes and literally mutilated 4 American cruisers.



The most unlucky was the Northampton, which was hit by two 610 mm long-lance torpedoes. The crew fought for the life of the ship, but the destruction was too significant and as a result the cruiser sank.

"Chicago"



December 7, 1941 "Chicago" was at sea with the 12th tactical squadron (TF 12). The squadron tried to find the enemy, but unsuccessfully and eventually returned to Pearl Harbor.

In 1942, "Chicago" operated in different parts of the Pacific Ocean. He covered New Caledonia, participated in attacks on Lae, New Guinea, Salamue. Accompanying the aircraft carrier Yorktown on the Solomon Islands raid. Participated in the first battle for Guadalcanal.

Participant of the first battle at Savo Island. Received a hit from a Japanese torpedo, the crew fought for survivability, not ceasing to fire at the enemy. After minor repairs, he left for the USA and got up for a major overhaul.

Returning to the theater of operations in January 1943, he went to Guadalcanal as part of a convoy. On the night of January 29, in a battle near Rennel Island, he received two torpedoes from Japanese aircraft. The cruiser lost speed, but the work of the crew stopped the flow of water and even straightened the roll.



"Chicago" was taken in tow by the cruiser "Louisville" and an attempt was made to tow the damaged ship for repair to the base.



However, the next day, Japanese aircraft resumed their attacks and torpedo bombers planted four more torpedoes in the Chicago. Even Poseidon could not cope with such damage, so the cruiser sank at a point with coordinates 11 ° 25'00 ″ S. sh. 160 ° 56'00 "in. etc.

Louisville



He began his military service in 1940, moreover, as a neutral ship or an armed transport, if you like. The cruiser made a trip to South Africa to take out of Rhodesia $ 148 million worth of British gold for storage in the United States. The cruiser took the cargo in Simonstown (South Africa), and with it went to New York. After that, "Louisville" was transferred to the Pacific Ocean.

On December 7, 1941, during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the Louisville was sailing to Pearl Harbor as part of a convoy. He did not come, therefore he survived. Then he was included in Task Force 17 (TF 17) and sent to San Diego.

In March 1942 he took part in operations in the Bismarck archipelago and the Solomon Islands. In May he took part in an operation off the Aleutian Islands.



Moved troops to Samoa, participated in raids on the Gilbert Islands and the Marshall Islands. November - operations in New Caledonia

On January 29, 1943, she took part in the battle at Rennell Island and the only cruiser managed to avoid Japanese torpedoes. In the evening of the same day, he took the damaged cruiser "Chicago" in tow and tried to drag it to the base.

In April 1943 he was again sent to the Aleutian Islands, where he participated in the Battle of Attu. In January 1944 he participated in the shelling of the atolls of Vautier, Roy-Namur. He struck Palau, participated in the battles for Eniwetok Atoll, Truk Island, in June supported the landing on Saipan and Tinian, and then Guam.



Participant in the Battle of Leyte Gulf. On the night of January 5, Louisville was hit by two kamikazes and suffered heavy losses in personnel. After repairs, on June 5, 1945, while participating in the battles for Okinawa, he received another kamikaze hit.



On June 17, 1946, the cruiser was put into reserve and transferred to the Atlantic Reserve Fleet. On March 1, 1959, it was excluded from the naval register, and on September 14, it was auctioned off for scrap.

"Houston"



With the outbreak of war, "Houston" was sent to Australia and in the Australian Navy participated in the battles for the Dutch West Indies.

In the battle in the Strait of Massar, he was hit by a bomb from a Japanese aircraft in the aft tower. The tower was destroyed. The crews of the cruiser shot down 4 aircraft.

Convoying transports from Darwin, he took the strike of 36 bombers, covered the transports with fire and a smoke screen. In 45 minutes of the battle, almost the entire ammunition load of anti-aircraft shells was fired, it turned out to disrupt the attack of the Japanese aircraft.

Participated in the battle on February 27, 1942 in the Java Sea, where the Allied squadron was defeated by the Japanese.

Battle in the Sunda Strait.



The battle took place immediately after the battle in the Java Sea. On February 28, 1942, the cruisers Perth (Australia), Evertsen (New Zealand), Exeter and Encounter (Great Britain) and Houston (USA) left the ports of Batavia and Surabaya. The destroyers were absent, since after the battle in the Java Sea they were left without torpedoes.

The purpose of the campaign was to attack the Japanese landings in the Sunda Strait. But by this time, the Japanese ships had already blocked the strait and began to land troops.

The Japanese group of ships consisted of the aircraft carrier Ryudze, the cruisers Mogami, Mikuma, Katori and nine destroyers. And a bunch of transports with a landing party.

Houston and Perth were the first to spot the Japanese ships and open fire. The destroyer "Fubuki" almost point-blank, from 2,5 km fired 9 torpedoes at the cruisers, but the allies managed to turn them away and the torpedoes did not hit. More precisely, two hit, but in Japanese transports. Plus "Houston" and "Perth" sank one transport with artillery fire, and forced three to be washed ashore.

And then the Japanese took up the cruiser in earnest. In general, the crews of the Perth and Houston behaved just fine. "Perth" was the first to die from torpedoes from Japanese destroyers, and "Houston", being left alone, managed to sink a minesweeper, well to pick out the destroyer "Harukadze" and the cruiser "Mikuma".

The Houston was hit by four torpedoes and about three dozen rounds of various calibers. An hour after the start of the battle, the Houston rolled over and sank. Of the 1120 crew members, 346 survived the battle, who were captured by the Japanese.

"Augusta"



The flagship of the US Asian Navy, he received his baptism of fire in 1937, during the Second Battle of Shanghai. The Augusta was hit by Chinese aircraft, which dropped bombs and machine guns on the cruiser, despite the fact that American flags were painted on all three towers.

Further, the cruiser served in the Atlantic. In June 1941, the Augusta was appointed as President Franklin Roosevelt's flagship for an August 1941 meeting with Winston Churchill in Argentia, Newfoundland, Canada.

With the outbreak of hostilities, the cruiser was on patrol in the Atlantic, took part in landing operations in North Africa, including in the Moroccan-Algerian operation, when it entered into battle with the French battleship Jean Bar. Fortunately, the French fired inaccurately, and the cruiser received no hits.

After a successful landing during Operation Torch, the ship returned to the Atlantic and guarded convoys to Britain. For some time, "Augusta" spent in the British fleet.



On April 25, 1944, King George VI of Great Britain dined with Rear Admiral Alan Kirk on board the cruiser.

In June 1944, the Augusta took part in the landing operation in Normandy. It housed the headquarters of General Omar Bradley, the cruiser participated in the suppression of German batteries on the coast.

Then the ship was sent to the Mediterranean Sea, where the cruiser took part in Operation Dragoon on the coast of southern France, firing at German positions.

In September 1944, the cruiser returned to the United States for repairs. The repairs were delayed, because in November 1944, a mysterious explosion occurred on the ship during work at the dock. Three workers and four Maoriaks were killed. The Augusta came out of repair only at the end of January 1945.

Until the end of the war, the cruiser performed two more political missions: accompanied the cruiser Quincy with Roosevelt to a conference in Yalta in February 1945, and in July 1945, the new US President Truman went to the Potsdam conference in Augusta.



At the end of the war, the cruiser took out American troops to the United States as a transport, and in 1946 the ship was decommissioned and sent for cutting.

"Chester"



December 7, 1941 "Chester" was at sea as part of the operational group of the aircraft carrier "Enterprise". The cruiser patrolled the Hawaiian area for two months, then supported the landing in the Marshall Islands. There, the cruiser suffered the first losses from the actions of the Japanese aviation, when a bomb, breaking through the deck, exploded inside the premises.

After repairs, in May 1942, "Chester" returned to service and took part in hostilities near Guadalcanal and the Solomon Islands, provided protection for aircraft carriers in the Battle of the Coral Sea, rescued the crew of the aircraft carrier "Lexington", participated in the battle at Ellis Island.

On October 20, 1942, while supporting amphibious operations in the Solomon Islands, the Chester was damaged by a torpedo from the Japanese submarine I-176. The ship remained afloat and after repairs in Sydney went to the United States for more overhaul.



A year later, the cruiser returned to service and took part in operations off the Gilbert Islands and the Marshall Islands. He covered Majuro Atoll as a floating air defense battery. Participated in Operation Adak in the Aleutian Islands, in the bombing of Matsuwa (now Matua) and Paramushira in the Kuril Islands in June 1944.

Back in the Central Pacific, Chester fired on the Wake and Marcus Islands in September 1944.



"Chester" covered the aircraft carriers McCain in the Battle of Leyte Bay, fired at Iwo Jima. Then there was cover for the landing on Iwo Jima. In the early morning of February 19, 1945, during the landing operation on Iwo Jima, "Chester" collided with the landing ship "Estes" and damaged the right propeller. Until the end of the operation, the ship played the role of a floating battery, and then left for repairs.

The Chester returned to service only in June 1945. The cruiser met the end of the war in the Aleutian Islands, patrolling the area.

After the end of the war, Chester flew several flights, transporting American troops to the United States. Then the ship was transferred to the reserve, but on June 10, 1946, it was finally written off. The ship was too worn out.


What about the Norhampton-class cruiser project? These were very successful ships that dragged the entire war on themselves, participating in almost all operations of the US Navy.

Despite some shortcomings, namely, clearly insufficient booking, the ships came out very intractable in terms of being hit by bombs and shells. And the fact that the underload helped turn them into floating air defense batteries only expanded the range of applications for these ships.



In general, the Norhamptons cannot be called the best ships in the class, but they were the most worthy representatives of the class of heavy cruisers. And the awards that the ships received, together with the crews, are only the best confirmation of this.
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  1. +13
    2 March 2021 18: 36
    Cruisers. Not perfect, but hard to sink

    "Nothing is perfect. This world is not perfect."
    Thanks to the author, it was very interesting! Valentin Savvich Pikul remembered:
    - Ah, cruisers, cruisers! And who invented you?
    1. +8
      2 March 2021 18: 52
      Quote: Destiny
      - Ah, cruisers, cruisers! And who invented you?

      Eh three, bird three! Who invented you? - Gogol stole from Pikul wassat
  2. +6
    2 March 2021 18: 40
    Interestingly, in the middle caliber (127mm), short-barreled guns of 25 (later 38) calibers were used. Maneuverability due to the lower weight of course increases, but the range and accuracy were apparently considered secondary characteristics.
  3. +2
    2 March 2021 18: 41
    I wonder if there is a list of how many and what kind of ships and submarines the usa built in ww2
    1. BAI
      +13
      2 March 2021 19: 07
      Type ____________ December 7, 1941 __________ May 14, 1945 ___ Note
      Battleships ________ 17______________________ 23 _____________ (all types)
      Aircraft carrier ______ 7 ______________________ 28
      Escort aircraft carrier _1 ____________________ 71
      Cruiser _________37______________________ 72 ____________ (all types)
      Destroyer ________171 _____________________ 377 ___________ (all types)
      Frigate __________ 0 ______________________ 361
      Submarine ___ 112 ____________________ 232
      Landing craft__ 0 ____________________ 2547 ____________ (including small craft)

      The table also contains the following line:
      Total active ______ 790__________________ 6 768
      What is included there is not disclosed. But they stayed behind the scenes: torpedo boats, sea hunters, minesweepers, etc.
      1. Alf
        +2
        3 March 2021 11: 40
        Quote: BAI
        What is included there is not disclosed.

        I wonder who gave you a minus?
        1. BAI
          +5
          3 March 2021 11: 45
          I have a fan who looks for all my comments and diligently minuses them. There is always a minus on any comment. M. b. and on this will appear.
          1. Alf
            +1
            3 March 2021 11: 47
            Quote: BAI
            I have a fan who looks for all my comments and diligently minuses them. There is always a minus on any comment. M. b. and on this will appear.

            You still make it funny to me, but I also have such a hidden admirer, judging by the size of the cons-bald-racer. Suffice it to say that twice two or four, as a minus appears in a few minutes.
            1. Alf
              +2
              4 March 2021 16: 49
              Quote: Alf
              Suffice it to say that twice two or four, as a minus appears in a few minutes.

              In, again my admirer jumped in. Who are you, open your face, I'll send you caramels.
    2. +5
      2 March 2021 19: 11
      There are a lot of such publications. One of the most famous recent years - the Marine collection, annex to the MK, 2004, №№ 1 and 3. Based on the publications of the Marine collection in the MK 1970s-1980s.
      1. +4
        2 March 2021 20: 18
        Quote: Potter
        Based on publications from the Marine Collection in the 1970s-1980s MK.

        Much better, actually. :)
  4. +7
    2 March 2021 18: 58
    Thank you for the article. Iconic ships for the American Navy. Have borne the brunt of all periods of the war. 3 ships are lost. Contractual restrictions prevented from becoming truly perfect ships in their class, nevertheless, the performance characteristics of the cruisers were very worthy.
    1. -6
      3 March 2021 17: 43
      what. is yummy american ass !!! ????
    2. 0
      3 March 2021 21: 00
      Not really, and interfered.
      Cruisers of this type were underutilized.
      Standard displacement from 9006 tons to 9300 tons.
      The next type, Portland, has already been loaded.
      That made it possible to strengthen the booking.
  5. +10
    2 March 2021 19: 02
    The Battle of Tassafarong is generally a masterpiece. Tanaka was a genius .. Having attacked the mattress mats at night, he ordered the lead destroyer to open fire, sacrificing them. The Americans began to smack at him with whatever they could, and the rest of the Japanese destroyers fired off all torpedoes in flashes and quietly left .. Moreover, unlike the enemy, the Japanese did not have radars .. Shine!
    1. +5
      2 March 2021 20: 19
      Quote: paul3390
      Tanaka was brilliant ..

      To win, I won, no doubt ...
      But the main task (to deliver the cargo to the garrison) was not completely fulfilled.
  6. +10
    2 March 2021 19: 10
    The auxiliary artillery consisted of eight universal 127 mm / 25 guns. The firing range for surface targets was 13,5 km, for air targets at an elevation angle of 85 degrees - 8,3 km. Combat rate of fire was 12-15 rounds per minute.
    The Northampton-class cruiser had single turret mounts with 5-inch / 25 guns.

    The photo in the article shows a two-gun turret mount of 5 "/ 38 Mark 12 guns, which were never installed on the Northampton-class cruiser.
    1. +4
      2 March 2021 19: 24
      Beat ahead winked !
      1. +5
        2 March 2021 19: 26
        Sorry, it just caught my eye.
    2. 0
      3 March 2021 17: 46
      and in the section "torpedo armament" - a photo of the SOVIET TA AND SOVIET SEAFARERS.
      1. +2
        3 March 2021 21: 03
        And the installation of a coaxial heavy machine gun from a torpedo boat.
    3. +2
      3 March 2021 21: 02
      And in this photo, exactly 127/25?
      Were there tower installations since 127/25?
      1. +2
        3 March 2021 21: 27
        You are absolutely right, there were no 5-inch / 25 turrets. He criticized the author, but he inserted the wrong photo. The photograph of the USS Chicago that I inserted was taken from the USS Wichita and in a 5 "/ 38 Mark 12 frame.
        Correct photo.
  7. +5
    2 March 2021 19: 19
    The battle took place immediately after the battle in the Java Sea. On February 28, 1942, the cruiser Perth (Australia) left the ports of Batavia and Surabaya, Evertsen (New Zealand), Exeter and Encounter (UK) and Houston (USA). Destroyers were absent, since after the battle in the Java Sea they were left without torpedoes.

    1. Hr. Ms. Evertsen, onboard letter EV (His Majesty Evertsen) - Van Gent-class destroyer of the Netherlands fleet. - what does it mean?
    2.HMS Encounter (His Majesty the Ship "Encounter"), hull number H10 - type E destroyer of the Royal Navy of Great Britain. - And this is how to understand?
    1. Alf
      +1
      3 March 2021 11: 42
      Quote: alsoclean
      And this is how to understand ??

      Again you ruined all the raspberries for Roman.
      1. +2
        3 March 2021 22: 03
        Quote: Alf
        Again you ruined all the raspberries for Roman.

        Why not? I read his articles with interest. And I practically do not comment on them. But then it escaped. Still, you need to be more careful ...
        1. Alf
          +1
          3 March 2021 22: 25
          Quote: alsoclean
          I read his articles with interest.

          I also read like an adventure novel, lively, not boring and not overloaded with a lot of numbers. Indeed, readable. But the slapsticks, moreover, not for specialists, but even for those who are not very deep in the topic, are very noticeable.
  8. +7
    2 March 2021 19: 24
    In the text 5 "25 klb. In the photo 5" 38 klb. T-Rishch Voroshilov argued that artillery is an exact science!
  9. +7
    2 March 2021 19: 27
    In peacetime common displacement was 9200 tons, maximum - 10544 tons, in the military - 9350 tons and 14030 tons, respectively.


    It gradually becomes embarrassing - another article about cruisers, but the author cannot remember and use the terminology adopted after 1922. angry

    - Standard displacement (standard displacement): the displacement of a fully equipped ship (vessel) with a crew, but without supplies of fuel, lubricants and drinking water in tanks.

    - Normal displacement (normal displacement): displacement equal to the standard displacement plus half the supply of fuel, lubricants and potable water in tanks.

    - Full displacement (loaded displacement, full load displacement, designated displacement): displacement equal to the standard displacement plus full stores of fuel, lubricants, potable water in tanks, cargo.
  10. +6
    2 March 2021 19: 52
    As a short-range anti-aircraft weapon, 37-mm machine guns were to be installed, but the Colt company did not have time with the development by the time the ships were built. .
    The Colt company has never developed a 37 mm marine assault rifle.
    1. +2
      3 March 2021 11: 15
      Quote: Undecim
      As a short-range anti-aircraft weapon, 37-mm machine guns were to be installed, but the Colt company did not have time with the development by the time the ships were built. .
      The Colt company has never developed a 37 mm marine assault rifle.

      Nevertheless, the installation of a 37-mm MZA on these MCTs was planned. But by the time the ships were handed over to the fleet, the 37-mm machine gun had not materialized. smile
      The light AA armament was virtually non-existent on completion as 37mm intended for these ships failed to materialize.

      © Leo Marriott. Treaty Cruisers: The First International Warship Building Competition

      In general, the pre-war history of the naval MZA in the United States is a pain and humiliation of the fleet. For ten years, the American fleet was waiting for the American submachine gun ... and when it got into production with great difficulty, it turned out that it was hopelessly outdated. And I had to urgently purchase two licenses for MZA in Europe - and exactly before entering the war. And when the licenses were bought, it turned out that the entire technology was designed for small-scale production by highly qualified personnel - with the adjustment of parts during the assembly process.
      “Manual labor,” Roman said quickly. - Failsafe. Designs by Leo Ben Bezalel. Ben Bezalel collected and debugged it for three hundred years ...
      © ABS. PNvS.
      As a result, the first year of the won the fleet fought off the aircraft with short-bore 5 "anti-aircraft guns, 3" anti-aircraft guns of the WWII times, a few "Chicago pianos" and John Mosesovich's products. The designers and technologists of Chrysler tried to adapt the same Swedish automatic rifle for mass production by personnel of medium and low qualifications.
    2. +1
      3 March 2021 21: 07
      But, it did. Therefore, sometimes, this machine is called the 37 mm "Colt".
  11. +3
    2 March 2021 20: 09
    To be honest, when pitching, especially onboard, there is still a big question where it is more comfortable to sleep.
    This is me for the section "steamer habitability". But that's my personal opinion. Today there are no hammocks.
    How can you sleep when you are thrown from side to side ... I personally can not imagine. request
    1. +3
      2 March 2021 22: 11
      There is much in the world, friend Horatio, which our sages did not dream of

      And in the ranks on the go how to sleep? And at 30 degrees of frost outside, under a greatcoat? But the ancestors somehow knew how.
    2. Alf
      +2
      3 March 2021 11: 43
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      How can you sleep when you are thrown from side to side ...

      Perfectly. Especially if you get so fucked up in a day ..
    3. 0
      4 March 2021 15: 41
      Anyway, it's better than having a crooked back in a hammock. I don’t care about my youth, but then you realize that a hammock is horror. Yes, and not much on a cruiser of 10000 tons and it pumps something.
  12. -2
    2 March 2021 20: 40
    Not badly laid out.
  13. +2
    2 March 2021 22: 58
    "In general, the Norhamptons cannot be called the best ships in their class, but they were worthy representatives of the class of heavy cruisers."
    And what, finally, are the best ships of this class ?? !!
    1. -2
      3 March 2021 01: 03
      Some strange question. Well, let's say USS Des Moines (CA-134). What for do you need it?
      1. +2
        3 March 2021 10: 18
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        Some strange question. Well, let's say USS Des Moines (CA-134). What for do you need it?

        It is logical to assume that the conversation should be about "contractual" cruisers, and not about everyone in a row. :)
        1. 0
          3 March 2021 13: 37
          Also a strange question. After Northampton, the Americans had 3 more types of MRT in the 30s.
          1. 0
            3 March 2021 14: 57
            What are you talking about now?
            1. +1
              3 March 2021 17: 53
              If you count the treaty Americans, then after the Northamptons there were Portlands, New Orleans, and Wichita. Since the development of the MCT class went more or less in one direction - the growth of protection - it is logical to assume that Wichita will be the best negotiated American. If Wichita was unsuccessful (there is such an opinion) then New Orleans. If we take the situation for the year of laying the Northamptons, then Takao was laid a year earlier, Zara was laid bare later, both of him are significantly stronger, but both are 10K +. Without taking into account such specimens - the usual under-armored SRT of the late 20s, perhaps slightly worse than Myoko, but the latter has its own fleas.
              1. 0
                3 March 2021 18: 50
                Quote: Cherry Nine
                If you count the treaty Americans, then after the Northamptons there were Portlands, New Orleans, and Wichita.

                Actually, this is what I meant ... :)
        2. 0
          3 March 2021 21: 10
          "New Orleans".
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    2. Alf
      +2
      3 March 2021 11: 44
      Quote: Mark Kalendarov
      And what, finally, are the best ships of this class?

      Perfection is unattainable. You can always say, but here it is bad.
      1. 0
        4 March 2021 07: 08
        If we do not consider the "cheaters", then of those who honestly fulfilled the agreements (Great Britain, the USA), the best 10-ton truck was built by the Americans.

        The Last of the Contract Projects, Wichita

        Demonstrated what configuration and set of qualities a cruiser should have in accordance with the "offensive" tactics of the US cruising forces. The price was a decrease in stability, but if Wichita went through the whole war and did not capsize, then our assessments are not interesting here.

        With the outbreak of the war, when all restrictions evaporated, the Yankees took Wichita and corrected its only flaw, adding width and displacement. This is how Baltimore turned out
        1. 0
          4 March 2021 12: 28
          Well, just in time for Wichita there are a lot of questions. On this ship, the Americans had a quintessentially Japanese desire to pour a pint and a half into a one-pint mug. It is difficult to call the ship the best, which immediately had to be loaded with ballast so that it did not sink to the bottom directly from the wall. And since the war kept increasing and increasing the upper weight due to air defense and RLO, a relatively successful service until the 47th year is to no small degree a success.

          Although, as a prototype for Baltimore, the ship is certainly interesting.
  14. +6
    2 March 2021 23: 18

    With this photo, the author is completely naughty. This is a photograph of the Pacific Fleet's Type 7 Sharp Soviet destroyer.
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    2. +3
      3 March 2021 09: 21
      With a photo, the author has the same trouble from article to article. If you play a little with one of the author's favorite phrases: "quality was sacrificed for speed" (but he does not get worn out)
  15. Alf
    +2
    3 March 2021 11: 39
    The beginning of the war, that is, the moment when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, Northampton was at sea, escorting the aircraft carrier Enterprise.

    The most unlucky was the Northampton, which was hit by two 610 mm long-lance torpedoes. The crew fought for the life of the ship, but the destruction was too significant and as a result the cruiser sank.

    You cannot escape fate.
    armed transport,

    Not a fig for a transport, with a bunch of 8-inches ...
    "Augusta" was hit by Chinese planes, which dropped bombs on the cruiser

    Typically, they did not hit. The Chinese, one word, are mowing everywhere ...
    1. +1
      3 March 2021 12: 07
      Quote: Alf

      Typically, they did not hit. The Chinese, one word, are mowing everywhere ...

      Come on, remember our Air Force of that time. In 1939, the DB-3 troika of 21 dbap instead of the Finnish railway station went to our (Gruzino) station and ... missed all 30 bombs. Minus for minus gave a plus. smile
      1. Alf
        +2
        3 March 2021 12: 10
        Well, yes, the navigators missed. But then how many "affectionate" words they heard from the infantry ..
        1. +2
          3 March 2021 17: 25
          Quote: Alf
          Well, yes, the navigators missed.

          Moreover, twice - with an exit to the target and with a drop point.
          Quote: Alf
          But then how many "affectionate" words they heard from the infantry ..

          Thank God that there was someone to say those words.
          In 1945, our air force got lost in the same way - and instead of Mudanjian, they left for four days as Mulin, occupied by our army men. But this time two nines "Ilov" from the 303rd bap and one nine from the 444th bap with a reset point of 270 "acres" were not mistaken.
          In 11-45, our aircraft made a massive raid by IL-4 groups in the city of Mulin. Killed up to 200 troops, including the head of the army DC major Goldstein. Up to 200 cars, 12 guns and 8 mortars were broken and burned.

          It got to the point that the army team were forced to fight back with fire from their own bombers.
          According to the oral order of the deputy. the commander of the air defense artillery of the 5th Army 2011 and 1278 ZAP [anti-aircraft artillery regiments] fired at their planes. Used up 52 85 mm and 34 37 mm shells. Two soldiers killed, 6 wounded.
          1. +2
            3 March 2021 17: 38
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Up to 200 servicemen were killed, including the head of the Army Palace of Culture, Major Goldstein

            Come on, you cling to the little things. Army Commander Lieutenant General McNair says hello.
            1. 0
              4 March 2021 10: 47
              Quote: Cherry Nine
              Come on, you cling to the little things. Army Commander Lieutenant General McNair says hello.

              Where are we to the American scale: one raid - and minus the battalion, minus the commander of the ground forces. Although ... maybe the Air Force fought so hard for independence from the army? smile
              But in general:
              I remember these bloody flyers from the war! They will never hit the target for sure !!!
              ©
              1. +1
                4 March 2021 11: 14
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Although ... maybe the Air Force fought so hard for independence from the army?

                Yes, it is not often that subordinates of one deputy of the NGSh kill another deputy of the NGSH. Some kind of direct Bolshevik energy in personnel matters.

                Although I am personally a supporter of the version that Harris and Arnold fought on the side of the Nazis. With this, they compensated for Kniepkamp's activities, for example, behind enemy lines. I came to this idea after learning that Quesada, the commander of the tactical air force, tried to plant bombs on the spitfires a little later than the moment when Arnold refused to accept the A-25A Shrike, aka SB2C-1 Helldiver.
          2. 0
            4 March 2021 15: 45
            Yes ... This is how the veteran's phrase comes to mind: "There is no enemy worse than your own aircraft. It always hits."
  16. +2
    3 March 2021 17: 29
    I must pay tribute, American shipbuilders in those years made a lot of good ships. these cruisers are just one of a whole list
    they got the gorgeous destroyer Giering, and the quite practical Iowa, and the massive aircraft carriers turned out to be quite good.
    1. +1
      3 March 2021 19: 25
      The practicality of Iowa will be difficult to justify even to Kaptsov. Iowa is whatever. Even if it is very good, but not practical.
      Gearing is cool, but the road is a spoon for dinner
      Aircraft carriers are good. But they just didn't quite make it to the perfect
      The WWII American Navy is extremely funny and underrated in many ways.
      Outstanding ships are zero. Outstanding, even just good admirals are zero. The number of ships is colossal, but only from the second half of the war.
      The first half is carried by a fleet comparable to the enemy in quantitative and qualitative terms. But for some reason, sailors and junior and middle officers suddenly demonstrate amazing professionalism from the very beginning in most cases.
      1. +1
        3 March 2021 20: 02
        Quote: Engineer
        Outstanding ships are zero. Outstanding, even just good admirals are zero.

      2. +1
        3 March 2021 21: 18
        Continuity.
        Preserving the tradition.
        The level of education.
      3. +3
        3 March 2021 22: 24
        Quote: Engineer
        demonstrate amazing professionalism in most cases

        you just do not know what service in the navy meant for ordinary Americans after the depression and massive devastation, especially for not quite "indigenous" - blacks, Latinos, Italians, etc.
        so they got out of their way.
      4. +1
        4 March 2021 11: 04
        Quote: Engineer
        But for some reason, sailors and junior and middle officers suddenly demonstrate amazing professionalism from the very beginning in most cases.

        But if they do it, then on a grand scale. For example, include indoor power electrics. filled with vapors of aviation gasoline from a damaged tank of aviation fuel (Oh, what did that boom? And why does Lady Lex burn and sink?). Or, with the persistence of maniacs, they feed main switchboard No. 4 with unresolved short circuits in consumer circuits from other main switchboards (thus depriving SODAK of 75% of the power supply - smart automation simply disconnected the next main switchboard of the chain from the input power from the generators). Or they abandon an aircraft carrier stubbornly unwilling to sink. smile
        1. +1
          4 March 2021 20: 29
          Or, with the persistence of maniacs, they feed main switchboard number 4 with unresolved short circuits in consumer circuits from other main switchboard

          It seems like only two attempts. The third is suppressed. Where is the obstinacy of the maniacs?
          Or throw an aircraft carrier stubbornly unwilling to sink

          Consider BZJ Yorktown a sweeping jamb? Well, such a thing. Especially considering the tactical situation. If only to be absolutely amerophobic.
          But if they do it, then on a grand scale.

          This is more about enlightened sailors

          1. +1
            5 March 2021 02: 35
            Quote: Engineer
            This is more about enlightened sailors

            )))
            Well, you came to your senses again)))
            Quote: Engineer
            It seems like only two attempts. The third is suppressed.

            NNP, there were 4 shields, so in the quest "to short-circuit the battleship with your own hands" 2 out of three attempts were used, so it's more correct.
            Quote: Engineer
            If only to be absolutely amerophobic.

            With regard to Midway, amerophobes like to recall the rather heroic overcoming with the repair of York in 3 days. All these days Saratoga showed the flag in San Diego, somehow it was not up to her. It came to mind that there seemed to be another aircraft carrier somewhere, only on May 30, just as York was leaving the PX.
            Well, the command of TF16 by the driver mares destroyers were also well conceived.

            The use of the B-17, the use of the B-26, but what is there, a lot of interesting things can be remembered.
          2. 0
            9 March 2021 10: 40
            Quote: Engineer
            It seems like only two attempts. The third is suppressed. Where is the obstinacy of the maniacs?

            There were just three attempts. Two were completed (it cost the LK three de-energized main switchboards out of four available), the third remained an attempt - Chief Electrician's Mate Shaeffer, who was in the main switchboard room # 1, refused to carry out the order (and completely deprive the ship of power) until the short circuit in the main switchboard circuits was eliminated. ...
            What about tenacity of maniacs... when, when power is supplied to an idle main switchboard from another main switchboard, the same thing happens twice (disconnection of the next main switchboard from the generators) - for the third time it may still be worthwhile to think about whether it is worth connecting the last of the working main switchboard of the ship to this "train" ? But no - they are ordered to connect it too. What is there to think about - you have to shake! ©
      5. +1
        4 March 2021 13: 24
        Quote: Engineer
        Iowa will be difficult to justify even Kaptsov

        It's very easy - just say 2 words "cruiser KAlaska".
  17. 0
    3 March 2021 23: 42
    Thanks to Roman) great article and photo hi
  18. 0
    April 14 2021 18: 56
    It's good that I'm not a teacher of the Russian language and I don't care about the sea of ​​mistakes.