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State and prospects of the Swedish fleet of JAS 39 Gripen fighters

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Fighters JAS 39C Swedish Air Force


Sweden does not have the most numerous, but rather developed air forces. The only combat aircraft in service with the Air Force is the Saab JAS 39 Gripen multipurpose fighter-bomber. There are about a hundred of these machines of a number of modifications in service, and their number will increase in the near future. Through the production of new aircraft and the modernization of old ones, Sweden plans to keep the Gripenes in service for the next 15-20 years.

Early modifications


The first flight of a prototype aircraft in a single-seat configuration JAS 39A took place in December 1988. Tests of the two-seat JAS 39B began only in 1996, when the single-seat one managed to go into series. The debugging of the two modifications took several years, after which the first order for serial production and delivery appeared. The Swedish Air Force planned to purchase 204 aircraft of two types, divided into three parties.

The first JAS 39A of the first batch was handed over to the customer in June 1993. The contract for this batch, issued back in 1982, provided for the construction of 30 aircraft of two modifications. The deliveries of this batch were completed in mid-December 1996. Since the summer of the same year, flight tests of the first aircraft of the second batch were carried out, and in December it was handed over to the customer. The contract for the second batch provided for the construction of 96 single and 14 two-seat aircraft.


In June 1997, we signed a contract for the third batch. This time it was planned to start the construction of modernized aircraft. The Air Force ordered 50 single JAS 39C and 14 double JAS 39D. The execution of the last contract lasted until 2008, as a result of which the Air Force received all the planned aircraft in the amount of 204 units.

During operation


In 2007, shortly before the completion of construction, a decision was made to modernize existing aircraft of early modifications. 31 JAS 39A / B cars were offered to be repaired and upgraded to "C / D" condition. Later, new orders of similar volumes appeared. Modernization of combat equipment for newer projects continued until 2015 and ended with a complete renewal of the active fleet.


Preparation for departure of the rented JAS 39C from the Czech Air Force

Having established mass production of new fighters, Sweden began to look for foreign customers. The first foreign operator of the JAS 39 was the Czech Republic. At the beginning of the 2004s, she studied several types of aircraft and chose the Swedish design. In 14, there was a lease agreement for 12 machines from the presence of the Swedish Air Force - 39 single JAS 39C and a pair of JAS 2027D. Later the lease was extended until 14. The Hungarian Air Force became another leaseholder of the Swedish fighters. The agreement provided for the transfer of XNUMX vehicles until the early twenties. The agreement will probably be extended for several years.

The restructuring and modernization processes, the organization of the lease and the revision of basic strategies over time led to a reduction in the fleet of JAS 39 fighters in the own Swedish Air Force. As of the mid-tenths, there were only 98 aircraft in the three combat wings - 74 single "C" versions and 24 double "D" versions. Several dozen cars of old modifications were transferred to storage.

New modernization


Since the end of the 39s, Saab has been working on the issue of further modernizing the JAS 2010C / D aircraft in order to further improve all the main characteristics and expand combat capabilities. In 39, an official order appeared for the development of such a project Gripen New Generartion or JAS 60E / F. At that time, the Swedish Air Force planned to buy 20 new aircraft - but only if there were foreign orders for XNUMX or more aircraft.


Hungarian Air Force aircraft

In 2012, Switzerland expressed its desire to purchase 22 new JAS 39E / F fighters, and after that the preparation of the Swedish order began. Curiously, the Swiss army eventually postponed purchases indefinitely, but Sweden continued to work. In 2013, construction began on the first JAS 39E aircraft.

The first aircraft of the new modification was built in 2016 and took off in 2018. In December last year, the aircraft was handed over to the Air Force for the necessary tests. The JAS 39F two-seater fighter is still at the design stage. Completion of these activities will allow the start of full-scale serial production. As previously reported, some of the 60 JAS 39E / F will be rebuilt, while others will be rebuilt from the technology of previous modifications.

The production of Gripen NG for the Swedish Air Force will begin in the coming years, and no later than 2023, such equipment is planned to be put into full operation. The production and restructuring program will take several years and will only be completed by the end of the twenties.


Presentation of the first JAS 39E

In 2014, Brazil ordered 36 JAS 39E / F aircraft. In 2019, the customer received the first single-seat vehicle for testing and gaining experience. The first major series is expected this year, and in addition, negotiations are underway on new contracts. If successful, the total volume of Brazilian orders will rise to 108 units.

Future technologies


The JAS 39C / D modernization project involved the replacement of some systems, but its impact on the overall potential of the aircraft was limited. The new “E / F” program provides more innovation with the most visible impact. The airframe structure, propulsion system, radar equipment, etc. are being refined. The complex of weapons is being improved.


The JAS 39E / F projects provide for various modifications to the airframe. The fuselage has been slightly enlarged and re-arranged, which made it possible to increase the fuel supply by 30%. Newly designed air intakes are used to ensure proper operation of the larger General Electric F414-GE-39E engine. The number of external suspension points has been increased to 10.

The complex of electronic and sighting and navigation equipment is almost completely rebuilt. Thus, the possibility of a relatively simple and quick hardware upgrade is declared. The software allows you to install the necessary modules appropriate for specific missions.

A new Leonardo ES-05 Raven radar is installed under the nose fairing of the fuselage, equipped with an AFAR with electronic scanning and a reversal mechanism to increase the viewing angles. The radar is supplemented with an infrared optical-locating station Leonardo Skyward G. Using these two devices, the aircraft is capable of detecting even subtle targets.


A modern airborne defense system has been introduced that monitors potential threats and provides a response to them. Depending on the type of threat, it is possible to use interference of different ranges or false targets. It is claimed that such a BKO is distinguished by increased resolution and improved sensitivity. In addition, it is integrated into the sighting and navigation system, which simplifies the pilot's work in combat.

Serious measures have been taken to improve the cockpit equipment and the principles of its operation. A "glass cockpit" is used with the minimum necessary and simple set of controls. The maximum number of processes is automated, the methods of issuing information in different modes have been changed.

Park Prospects


At the moment, the Swedish Air Force has less than a hundred JAS 39C / D fighters of a relatively new modification. A number of such machines are in storage and less than three dozen have been leased to other countries. This state of affairs no longer suits the command, and therefore measures are being taken to develop the Air Force.


First Gripen for Brazilian Air Force

According to reports in recent years, the existing JAS 39C / D will remain in service until at least 2030. They will be repaired and possibly upgraded to meet current requirements. It is assumed that the preservation of such technology will allow the Air Force to maintain the necessary combat capability until significant numbers of modern JAS 39E / F aircraft appear.

Serial fighters of the "E / F" version will enter the combat composition of the Swedish Air Force in a few years, and in the future the share of such equipment will grow. At the same time, the current plans do not provide for a complete replacement of older aircraft. Moreover, the old JAS 39C / D will remain the most popular. Perhaps in the future, new orders will appear that can change this state of affairs and bring a modern fighter forward not only in quality, but also in quantity.

Thus, the prospects for combat aviation The Swedish Air Force for the next 10-15 years is obvious. They plan to use the available equipment at least until the end of the current decade, and by that time the updated aircraft will be operational. The purchase of foreign samples is not yet planned. In addition, the Swedish military has not yet decided on ways to further develop aviation. Probably, over time, they will become interested in the topic of the next generation - but when this will happen and where it will lead is unknown. So far, the future of the Air Force is associated only with the Saab JAS 39 Gripen.
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  1. Pivot
    Pivot 7 February 2021 07: 22
    +2
    Normal airplane for countries that understand that they will not fight
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 7 February 2021 07: 46
      +21
      The author forgot Thailand and South Africa, there is also Grippen there. Good car, worthy successor to the "case" of the MiG-21
      1. SID
        SID 8 February 2021 13: 58
        +1
        A very intelligent apparatus. It would be good for the Russian Air Force to have such a machine. You need a suitable engine. Maybe you can use the AL-41 to fit this scheme, modifying it to the appropriate reliability of the unit.
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 8 February 2021 16: 40
          -1
          Hardly. Still, it is better to have your own light fighter, it is - the MiG-35.
          1. ironic
            ironic 9 February 2021 20: 24
            0
            He, as it were, like honey in Winnie the Pooh. As if there is an order for 6 cars and as if there should be AFAR for it, but as if there is nothing in service yet.
          2. SID
            SID 11 February 2021 18: 09
            0
            The MiG-35 is good for "today". I talked about what needs to be done for tomorrow.
      2. yehat2
        yehat2 15 March 2021 09: 10
        0
        Quote: URAL72
        a worthy successor to the "case" of the MiG-21

        I think he is closer to the moment-23
    2. ironic
      ironic 7 February 2021 15: 14
      +4
      And the countries that expect to be, why shouldn't they buy this?
      1. Pivot
        Pivot 7 February 2021 15: 18
        -6
        Who shouldn't?
        1. ironic
          ironic 7 February 2021 15: 25
          +1
          In general, why shouldn't someone see a war machine in this plane and why should one believe in it?
          1. Pivot
            Pivot 7 February 2021 16: 41
            -3
            You can fight with bows and spears, but not for long.
            1. ironic
              ironic 7 February 2021 16: 46
              +1
              Then it turns out to fight with the MiG-29, is it like a spiked mace? But they are at war.
              1. Pivot
                Pivot 7 February 2021 17: 16
                -2
                Who is fighting them?
                1. ironic
                  ironic 7 February 2021 17: 40
                  +4
                  Syria, Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia, Sudan fought. Even the Russian Federation, though only for ground targets.
                  1. Pivot
                    Pivot 7 February 2021 19: 08
                    -6
                    Well this is not serious.
                    1. ironic
                      ironic 7 February 2021 20: 11
                      +8
                      War is always serious.
                      1. Pivot
                        Pivot 8 February 2021 19: 59
                        -1
                        How to say?
                      2. ironic
                        ironic 8 February 2021 21: 22
                        0
                        How else can you say?
                      3. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 06: 00
                        -2
                        Do you analyze the database in Karabakh and answer the question were the actions of the Armenians serious from the point of view of the current circumstances?
                      4. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 13: 02
                        0
                        The Armenians considered their actions to be serious.
                      5. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 16: 01
                        -2
                        Even the Armenians did not consider their actions to be serious.
                      6. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 16: 28
                        0
                        Did you decide for them?

                        So why is any of the well-known front-line fighters serious in combat and Gripen not?
                      7. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 17: 26
                        -2
                        Gripen is an air defense interceptor and that says it all.
                      8. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 17: 41
                        +1
                        Truth? I deliberately erased air-to-air missiles from the list of what can be carried and used.

                        Missiles:
                        ...
                        4 × AGM-65 Maverick (Rb. 75)
                        2 × KEPD.350
                        6 × Rbs.15F anti-ship missile

                        Bombs:

                        7 × GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb
                        2 × Bk. 90 cluster bomb
                        8 × Mark 82 bombs
                        16 × GBU-39 SDB
                        12 × Alternative small-diameter glide bomb

                        Even not everything turns out and it is not said so.
                      9. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 17: 50
                        -2
                        The Su25 and Su24 also have explosive missiles, but they did not become fighters because of this.
                      10. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 17: 56
                        0
                        But the 39th is excellent and was a multi-role fighter and remained so in a more modern and advanced version of the E / F.
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                      12. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 19: 00
                        -1
                        The main thing is to believe in it. How the nezalezhnaya re-equips its air force on the Gripen, to protect against the eastern aggressor, let's see what kind of miracle bird it is.
                      13. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 19: 09
                        +1
                        The wise used to say that people are not commanded to believe, people are commanded to know, but faith is always above knowledge. Which is what you set a good example. You look into the open data of the aircraft and say - do not believe your eyes.

                        And in the political battles of Ukraine vs the Russian Federation, please do not involve me.
                      14. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 20: 04
                        0
                        I used to believe my eyes, I lived in the mid-10s in Linköping where these planes were produced and worked for one of the SAAB suppliers, I am familiar with their characteristics and I will say that this plane costs more than it can. Tabular characteristics are one thing, real combat is a little different. I'm not saying that this plane will fly dry to another, but this is not a full-fledged machine.
                      15. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 20: 12
                        0
                        Those. you claim that it simply does not meet the declared characteristics and you saw this inconsistency with your own eyes, working for the SAAB contractor?

                        According to the tabular characteristics, the MiG-29 should have had an incredible list of victories, but it has a well-known list of defeats, one may ask you, do you consider the MiG-29 a frivolous aircraft, an inferior machine, worth more than it can?
                      16. Pivot
                        Pivot 9 February 2021 21: 50
                        -1
                        The MiG 29 is a weak machine, but it has great potential, proof of the appearance of the MiG 35 on its base.
                      17. ironic
                        ironic 9 February 2021 22: 21
                        0
                        Well, not yet, but let it be. And the 39th, therefore, is a strong car, but in which there is little potential and proof of this, the emergence of E / F to replace C / D?
                  2. smoltish
                    smoltish 11 February 2021 08: 59
                    +1
                    And specifically what is defective? Only facts and characteristics, not adjectives that say nothing.
              2. Jager
                Jager 12 February 2021 21: 29
                0
                The draft is not valid.
          2. smoltish
            smoltish 11 February 2021 08: 58
            +1
            Quote: Pivot
            The Su25 and Su24 also have explosive missiles, but they did not become fighters because of this.

            Not in the subject wrote.
      2. smoltish
        smoltish 11 February 2021 08: 57
        +1
        Actually, a multi-functional fighter. It's strange that you don't know.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 8 February 2021 11: 54
    -5
    Quote: ironic
    And the countries that expect to be, why shouldn't they buy this?

    because he has no chance in the confrontation with MIG29 / MIG31 / SU27 / F16 / F15.
    1. ironic
      ironic 9 February 2021 17: 44
      0
      Who said this and why should anyone believe it?
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 February 2021 13: 01
        -2
        Quote: ironic
        Who said this and why should anyone believe it?

        don't believe it!
        it is necessary to compare prices / performance characteristics / etc.
        1. ironic
          ironic 10 February 2021 17: 30
          0
          The F-35A is priced at around 85 lemons per plane today, less than the F-15X and not much more than the F-16 Viper. The F-15I cost Israel 100 lemons, the F-16I Sufa under 80 lemons per plane. The performance characteristics of the F-35A are better. The maximum speed with the afterburner is far from the most important indicator.
        2. smoltish
          smoltish 11 February 2021 09: 01
          +1
          If you compare from Wikipedia, then this is not serious. Can you convince with facts?
    2. ironic
      ironic 9 February 2021 19: 11
      +1
      With the F-16, it has already been verified that the F-16 has no chance.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 February 2021 13: 04
        -1
        Quote: ironic
        With the F-16, it has already been verified that the F-16 has no chance.

        what are we talking about? give me a link
        1. ironic
          ironic 10 February 2021 17: 16
          0
          Oleg Granovsky has already published the opinion of Israeli pilots regarding the F-16 Blok 52 with Israeli avionics and F-35A in service. The pilots themselves are not allowed official interviews not authorized by the Israeli MoD.
  • Alex013
    Alex013 7 February 2021 18: 08
    0
    I agree 100%. Economy option compared to amerovsky. But the military-industrial complex respects the Swedes, especially after the case when their submarine was drowned during the exercises
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 7 February 2021 08: 14
    +21
    From time to time, the Swedes get peculiar and original samples of military equipment, which absolutely deservedly have a right to exist.
    The Swedish aviation industry is no exception. And "flu" is an example of the fact that even a small (by the standards of corporations) company can exist in our world.
    1. Mister X
      Mister X 7 February 2021 10: 09
      +7
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The Swedes periodically obtain original and original samples of military equipment.

      hi
      Gripen cannot be called purely Swedish.
      After all, it uses elements of avionics, an engine and weapons made in the USA and Europe.
      Gripen would never have happened without cooperation with third-party military-industrial corporations
      I believe this is the last fighter built in Sweden.



      By the way, the JAS-39А Gripen was considered one of the most inexpensive 4th generation fighters.
      At a cost for foreign customers with the Swedish fighter - only the upgraded MiG-29 could compete.
      1. Alex013
        Alex013 7 February 2021 18: 11
        +1
        Yes, there the cost is 45 ... 48, the typhoon has 3 times more
        1. dauria
          dauria 8 February 2021 00: 27
          +5
          Yes, there the cost is 45 ... 48, the typhoon has 3 times more

          A good plane, with one drawback - it climbed into the clearing where the F-16 hosted. Therefore, all foreign contracts were concluded ... and postponed.
          Good luck to the Swedes in their fair competition with the United States. wink
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 8 February 2021 11: 56
            -5
            Quote: dauria
            Good luck to the Swedes in a fair competition with the USA

            with an engine made in the USA ....)))))))))
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 7 February 2021 09: 20
    +13
    excellent radar plus meteor air-to-air missiles greatly increase the vehicle's capabilities
  • Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 7 February 2021 09: 23
    +21
    How boring it was to read about airplanes on Sundays! Neither the maximum and cruising speeds (I generally keep quiet about supersonic without afterburner), nor the rate of climb near the ground and the turn-around time (they don't even mention the permissible overloads), I even forgot the graph of the dependence of speed on altitude when I last saw it (wing load and RCS are not mentioned )! Everything has shrunk to abstract PFAR-AFAR, "stealth" and "grandma" ... I'll go to the cookery site!
    1. dauria
      dauria 7 February 2021 12: 49
      +9
      I'll go to the cooking site!


      Not worth it ... There is a magazine "Aviation and Time". Editions of the 90s, early 2000s are simply excellent, written by people who flew, designed, built and maintained aircraft. Well, if it's not in your throat that it was published in Ukraine. By the way, there is also a monograph "Gripen and Its Competitors" in three issues.
      By the way, unlike "aviation and cosmonautics" it is still freely available, without any "complaints from the owners." While lying here https://royallib.com/genre/transport_i_aviatsiya/
    2. ironic
      ironic 7 February 2021 15: 13
      +5
      1.2M without afterburners is not quite a standard supersonic sound because it is considered to be such starting from 1.25M. But nevertheless, this aircraft has a non-afterburner cruise.
    3. Xenofont
      Xenofont 7 February 2021 16: 21
      +3
      Why not entrust the article to Damantsev? Where are the diamond placers of abbreviations, furious terms and heavy lumps of verbal participles? The people would have flocked in clouds.
  • grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya 7 February 2021 11: 59
    -2
    No matter how much I look at this pepelats, it always seems that it has subsonic air intakes like the Su-25.
    1. ironic
      ironic 7 February 2021 15: 15
      +4
      And this pepelatsa, by the way, has cruise 1.2M.
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 7 February 2021 19: 24
      +4
      M = 1.1, with full combat load and without afterburner, and I can tell you for them, yes - they are supersonic !!! wink
  • Dimide
    Dimide 7 February 2021 12: 16
    +5
    I will add that Saab has built a plant in Brazil to produce six components for the Gripen, including the wing and fuselage.
  • Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 7 February 2021 12: 21
    -2
    Gripen's latest modification was officially advertised as the "Su killer."
    I wonder what client was this slogan counting on, India or what? Like Chinese Dry is no longer a hindrance?

    P.s
    Purely very beautiful in appearance.
    1. ironic
      ironic 7 February 2021 15: 17
      +7
      The killer is not a killer, but he can easily cause problems, the possibility of a high-speed cruise, modern AFAR and avionics, Meteora ... this is an unpleasant set.
      1. Dread
        Dread 8 February 2021 00: 28
        -2
        Quote: ironic
        ... but it may well cause problems, the possibility of a high-speed cruise, modern AFAR and avionics, Meteora ...

        Not tired of writing fables?
        1. What is the range of action of the RVV-BD "Meteor" and its speed in the final flight segment?
        2. What is the detection range of the Leonardo ES-05 Raven Grippenna radar?
        3. How about the super-maneuverability of the JAS 39 Gripen?
        And all your assumptions will crumble like a house of cards.
        1. ironic
          ironic 8 February 2021 14: 19
          +2
          1. Up to 110 km with a speed> 4M. Estimated range with a drop in speed characteristics up to 200 km.
          2. Claimed to be superior to the AIM-120 AMRAAM.
          3. Great, makes a cobra with weapons on an external sling without straining, and also has all the advantages in battle over the front line due to super cruise speed without afterburner over fighters that do not have super cruise.

          In total, the house begins to resemble a good such cottage of European construction more.
          1. Dread
            Dread 8 February 2021 22: 34
            +2
            Quote: ironic
            In total, the house begins to resemble a good such cottage of European construction more.

            1. The JAS 39 Gripen does not have super-maneuverability - engine without thrust vector control.
            2. Onboard radar ES-05 Raven JAS 39 Gripen is able to detect a target with EPR = 3 m2 at a distance D = 200 km
            Onboard radar N035 "Irbis" Su-35S detects targets with EPR = 3 m2 at a distance D = 400 km.
            3.
            Quote: ironic
            1. Up to 110km with speed > 4M... Expected range with a drop in speed characteristics up to 200 km.

            The range of the RVV-BD R-37M (in service with the Su-35S) is D = 300 km at speed at the end of the trajectory > 6M.
            Your European cottage has become a European-built barn ...
            1. ironic
              ironic 8 February 2021 23: 00
              -1
              The absence of a vector change does not indicate the aircraft's inability to perform all the same maneuvers, especially when the overload is maximum 9G, and the speed is not 0.5-0.6M for beautiful aerobatics with a displaced jet, but 0.9-1.2M on a super cruise, which neither Mig nor at Su.

              The target is not a piece of iron that is kicked in and can be detected and will not do anything about it. And if he covers up with a maneuver and complex electronic warfare in add. container, which will knock out spectral bands with complex noise bursts. AFAR will rebuild at different frequencies and in the presence of a powerful modern computer with algorithms for subtracting background noise signals will find the target. But a system with weaker processing power and PFAR will sit in a puddle with all its signal power with a drop in sensitivity if the target is far away from the normal in the corner.

              300km at 6M in the atmosphere? The cottage fell apart from the neighing of the inhabitants. And that was the only way he was defeated.
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 8 February 2021 23: 10
                -5
                This freak amuses me for several months, he has already changed 3 nicknames laughing knows 2,5 formulas and read basic things about radar, but does not understand what it means. He does not understand why the Irbis was given such power, while other radars do not have it. Fools in the west, in life, will not guess that by increasing the power for radiation, you can increase the detection range laughing
                1. Dread
                  Dread 9 February 2021 00: 57
                  +1
                  OgnennyiKotik is a strategist from Ukraine - only write translations from commercials on the Internet, you don't know for more. Your illiterate passages - clearly shows your complete ignorance in the radio field of technology:
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik VO topic: Bayraktar TB2 Turkish Attack Drone

                  Как at the radio engineer by education, straight blood flows from the eyes when I read here about electronic warfare and radar. The characteristics of the terrain are not affected by anything, the main thing mast higherCan be jam the satellite and UAV signal from the ground from several hundred kilometers, the UAV control center over the radio channel is detected and calculated at a time, etc., etc.

                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik VO topic: Camouflage does not help: Azerbaijan showed the destruction of MLRS and other enemy military equipment

                  It is just as hard to jam a radio channel. The signal is short, the frequencies automatically change, antenna sensitivity is high, high-quality signal filtering, etc. The interference sector itself is small, you can fly around it.

                  Learn AFU, Radio Engineering, Radar, etc.
                  1. ironic
                    ironic 11 February 2021 13: 27
                    0
                    Excuse me, is the conflict between the Russian Federation and Ukraine being discussed here? What is not? And zanafiga is this offtopic here?
                2. Dread
                  Dread 9 February 2021 01: 29
                  -1
                  Quote: OgnennyiKotik

                  Fools in the west, in life they will not guess that by increasing the radiation power, you can increase the detection range

                  OgnennyiKotik - everything I have given
                  parameters taken from open press.
                  OgnennyiKotik - Learn the basic radar equation! In order to increase the maximum range of the radar in two, it is necessary to raise the radiated power 16 times. Your friends in the West are not doing everything! They are far from Russia, just like you! bully
                  Learn radar, strategist!
                  1. Artavazdych
                    Artavazdych 10 February 2021 01: 54
                    +1
                    He really is a strategist, not a radio physicist))) He works here, seven days a week from 8 am to zero, and often after midnight))) Apparently, they don't pay much.
                    But you are wrong about one thing - he is not from Ukraine - the Little Russian flavor of speech is absent. The feeling that he is writing through the Yandex translator. Speech is dry, practically without turns.
                    1. Dread
                      Dread 10 February 2021 08: 08
                      -1
                      Artavazdych - thank you for your honest and decent comment!
                    2. ironic
                      ironic 11 February 2021 13: 38
                      0
                      Around only spies of the State Department. Level 80 awaits you.
                  2. 2534M
                    2534M 11 February 2021 10: 41
                    -3
                    Quote: Dread
                    not everything works out in the West! They are far from Russia

                    Monsieur "trampoline breaker", can you explain the NUMBER of radar stations with AFAR in the Air Force in our country and they have, how it turns out that against the background of massive serial deliveries THERE have only "ONE PIECE" on the only combatant Su-57
                    1. Dread
                      Dread 11 February 2021 12: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: 2534M
                      Monsieur "trampoline breaker", can you explain the NUMBER of radar stations with AFAR in the Air Force in our country and they have, how it turns out that against the background of massive serial deliveries THERE have only "ONE PIECE" on the only combatant Su-57

                      Did M. Klimov appear? Do not worry, we will catch up and overtake and not at the expense of quality. One radar alone
                      Н036 "Squirrel" is worth a lot. The detection range of targets with an image intensifier = 1 m2 is D = 400 km. US radars AN / APG-77, 81 will remain unsuccessful.
                      1. ironic
                        ironic 11 February 2021 13: 48
                        0
                        Klimov, by the way, writes serious articles, with the basics of logic and the principles of analysis of a literate and, in addition, an intelligent person. What can not be said about your comments. In 2007, it was first shown, and in the 2021 troops there is still one single copy of the aircraft, presumably equipped with this radar. And machines with image intensifier = 1 m2 are unlikely to be the main potential enemy of this aircraft. APG-77v1 has the same range, but Belka's FoV capabilities are not yet known.
                      2. Hexenmeister
                        Hexenmeister 11 February 2021 15: 34
                        0
                        presumably equipped with this radar
                        Why supposedly? For a long time already "Belka" has been produced by a serial plant.
                      3. ironic
                        ironic 11 February 2021 16: 17
                        0
                        Plants are not serial, there are serially produced devices.
                      4. Hexenmeister
                        Hexenmeister 11 February 2021 16: 23
                        0
                        So with "presumably" they got into a puddle, and started about "mass-produced". Well, "Squirrel" is a mass-produced device!
                      5. ironic
                        ironic 11 February 2021 16: 39
                        0
                        That's when the data on the serial production of Protein will be available in the main performance characteristics, as is known about the 77th and 81st Americans, then we will know, but for now I sit in my chair and wait. Our weather is nowhere dry.
          2. ironic
            ironic 11 February 2021 13: 36
            -1
            Do you know what you can break with a fool? Of course, not everything works out in the West either. And yes, they are really far from your method of explaining Russian achievements. Of course, they also have urya-aptriots, but so that their radar stations work on urya-patriotism, I have not met this ... in this they really did not succeed. Before you send someone to teach something, first get acquainted with the meaning of this word, you are our teacher.
        2. ironic
          ironic 11 February 2021 13: 25
          0
          People can be wrong about something. This is normal, everyone is wrong about something, but repeating some slogans devoid of reasonable comprehension, well, it’s somehow not even boring, but simply sad. request
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 11 February 2021 13: 37
            0
            Unfortunately, the person has medical problems. To write here, he changed at least 3 accounts. And he writes from these accounts to me. What for?
            The principle does not perceive irony and sarcasm when you even write directly that it is sarcasm.
            It's easier to ignore stupidity, unless, of course, this topic amuses you and discuss topics with adequate people.
            1. ironic
              ironic 11 February 2021 15: 35
              +1
              Well, unfortunately, there are a lot of inadequate comments. Therefore, it is difficult to decide where it is worth commenting on what nonsense is written and where it is not.
      2. Dread
        Dread 11 February 2021 03: 11
        +1
        Quote: ironic
        300km at 6M in the atmosphere? The cottage fell apart from the neighing of the inhabitants. And that was the only way he was defeated.

        Quote: Dread
        The range of the RVV-BD R-37M (in service with the Su-35S) is D = 300 km at a speed of final section trajectories> 6M.

        ironic - sadness, you don't know how to read in Russian!
        Quote: ironic
        The target is not a piece of iron that was kicked in and can be detected and will not do anything about it. And if he covers up with a maneuver and complex electronic warfare in add. container that will knock out spectral bands by complex noise packets. AFAR will rebuild at different frequencies and in the presence of a powerful modern computer with algorithms for subtracting background noise signals will find the target. But a system with weaker processing power and The PFAR will sink into a puddle with all its signal power with a drop in sensitivity if the target is far away from the normal in the corner.

        ironic - what area of ​​expertise are you from. What is your specialty? You are completely out of topic. Do not know the principle of operation of radar with AFAR and PFAR, as well as the physical Fundamentals of Radar. They wrote nonsense with "nice words".
        Subtraction circuits (with coherent processing) do not require computers!
        1. ironic
          ironic 11 February 2021 15: 59
          -1
          Thank you for emphasizing even more stupidity. Hypersonic missiles reduce the speed at the final section of the trajectory, and hypersonic speed is used only in a practically transatmospheric section to chase a high-speed high-altitude target, which is then attacked at supersonic speed, entering back into dense layers. You at least with open data for the same C-200, which is no longer secret.

          I have two higher educations, pro-electronics and software, at the moment I am more connected with programming. Well, I am just familiar with the basics of physics, mathematics and general educational articles on PFAR vs AFAR, as well as with a general description of the algorithms for finding targets against the background of noise, earth and water. Therefore, you actually are probably unfamiliar with the meaning of the word "nonsense", but you have a reflection on the familiar sound of this word, and your fingers are typing accordingly. In order not to be mistaken, I looked at what they were writing on the topic fluently - programmable logic, digital signal processing, software processing by the main processor, all of this is being used with might and main.
    2. smoltish
      smoltish 11 February 2021 09: 31
      +1
      Bravo! Direct analysis is deep)) that is, according to these two parameters, do you evaluate the combat properties of an aircraft?))) In aviation tactics, it is not as primitive as in your reasoning. Of course, the radar station on the Su-35 is more powerful, but you can immediately draw conclusions that Gripen is rubbish ... A good combat vehicle. And by the way, using competent tactics, you can easily neutralize the advantages of the Su-35 radar. And the Swedish radar PS-05 / A modification Mk.4 has very good characteristics.
      Plus, the Swedes borrowed ideas from the MiG-31, only at a more modern level. And Gripen can operate on the Su-35, not including its own radar, as it receives target designation from ground, air and sea target designation means. This is the main feature when creating Gripen, the information component is put at the forefront. He can fly at extremely low altitude, hiding behind the terrain (and in Sweden there are still mountains) and at the right time jump out and use weapons. Air Force tactics include a significant number of tactics and only a layman can reason on the tabular performance characteristics from Wikipedia. Not everything is as simple as it seems. The pilots of our air force are very respectful of the Swedish fighter. Plus, he not only has good fighter functions, shock and reconnaissance functions are also excellent. Overall a very good combat vehicle. And success in battle depends rather on the pilot's ability and skill to use the strengths of his aircraft. Not every pilot can get the most out of a fighter jet. Not every pilot can reach the maximum table values. And the Swedes have a high level of training for pilots, so you shouldn't say "Your European cottage has turned into a European-built shed ..." - you know, they weren't convinced at all.
      1. Dread
        Dread 11 February 2021 11: 41
        +1
        Quote: smoltish
        Air Force tactics include a significant number of tactics and only a non-professional can reason on the tabular performance characteristics from Wikipedia. Not everything is as simple as it seems. The pilots of our air force are very respectful of the Swedish fighter.

        smoltish - not tired of chattering the topic and write your statements from commercials, and I gave statements and parameters from open data and not from Wikipedia, and I did not give links to Wikipedia. You wrote a lie. I am "professionals for you" - I am not stuffed! There is a concept of truth, that is, truth. You have confused the VO technical site with the Horns and Hooves site. AND learn to correctly substantiate your statements, and not according to the principle - it is written on the fence, then read on the fence. Gripen has a lot of shortcomings and there is no need to praise him.
        Just one of your statements:
        Quote: smoltish
        And Gripen can work on the Su-35, not including your radar, as it receives target designation from ground, air and sea target designation means. This is the main feature when creating Gripen, the information component is put at the forefront.

        Talking about your non-professionalism in the field of radar. Will you miss the target?
        1. smoltish
          smoltish 11 February 2021 12: 39
          +2
          And what is the lack of professionalism? Highlighted the text "not including your radar". What have you not heard about this? It's strange. Information, for example, is transmitted aboard Gripen from a ground-based radar. At the right time, Gripen will turn on the radar and use weapons. What are the problems? What's wrong with radar ?? Or maybe without radar, use missiles with IR seeker. This has already happened in the history of aviation more than once (not among the Swedes, of course, otherwise write me something)
          So "I will not fly past the target."

          "smoltish - I'm not tired of chattering the topic and writing my statements from commercials" - for the first time I wrote to the military review, and already "I'm not tired of chattering."))) I'm not fond of commercials, only special and official literature. Here from time to time out of boredom I go to the military review. Fun to read.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 7 February 2021 13: 13
    +18
    Let me correct the author a little, the Swedes do not have a fighter-bomber, but a multifunctional fighter.

    An excellent fighter with unique characteristics in the single-engine class. The last modification brought it as close as possible to the 5th generation fighters, although for a certain time it was considered a new generation fighter. A rather original solution for the Italian Leonardo onboard radar with AFAR - a mechanical turnover in addition to electronic scanning with a modest antenna size, significantly expands the capabilities of the radar and the fighter as a whole. Also on the new modification of Grippen there is an optoelectronic locator as on our MiG-29 / -35 and Su-27 / -35, as well as a helmet-mounted target designation system. All this, in addition to the improved communication system with ground sources and fighters in the group, which was considered one of the most advanced, makes this small fighter very effective.
    It is worth dwelling separately on LTH and EPR. Despite the increased weight and increased fuel supply on board, due to which the main landing gear legs and the mechanism for their cleaning had to be changed and reworked, the flight characteristics remained practically unchanged, the possibility of takeoff and landing from motorway sections was preserved, the takeoff and run length remained the same. It was also possible to reduce several times the already not the greatest RCS. The relatively high IR signature of the engine remains a problem.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 7 February 2021 14: 02
      -7
      Quote: Azimuth
      An excellent fighter with unique characteristics in the single-engine class

      Who is he against at all? Neutral Sweden preparing for war with Russia? I would understand if they produced them for sale, but rather tests at home ... I saw a scenario of the war between Russia and Sweden on the network ...
      Right by the clock, the losses of Russia are terrifying. Especially in aerial battles. There, the Swedes "threw" our landings and drowned the landing on Stockholm in the Baltic ... Dreamers ... did these fighters take part in hostilities at least somewhere?
      1. ironic
        ironic 7 February 2021 15: 22
        +7
        Today, in general, the situation is such that countries do not know with whom and where a conflict is possible tomorrow, and proxy wars have become the basis of modern actions. Therefore, the assumptions of only one frontal collision with the RF is a much less likely scenario. But a collision with the sold equipment produced in the Russian Federation is quite probable.
        And where, excuse me, were Migi and Su noted in air battles?
        1. marat2016
          marat2016 7 February 2021 18: 00
          -3
          The Su-27 of the Ethiopian Air Force shot down at least 2 MiG-29s of the Eritrean Air Force.
          The Iraqi Air Force MiG-29 may have shot down several MNS aircraft in 1991. (Very likely Tornado and F-111).
          Maybe ! :) The Russian Aerospace Forces shot down several Ukrainian Air Force planes in '14.
          1. ironic
            ironic 8 February 2021 23: 14
            0
            The Miga-29 does not have a single registered aerial victory, do not invent it. The battle of several Eritreans with several Ethiopians is of course an example of a clash, especially when there was no confirmation of losses. As for the state of technology in Ukraine, at that time, probably, and aircraft guns could do their job, as in WWII.
            1. marat2016
              marat2016 9 February 2021 20: 08
              0
              I do not claim that there were such.
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 7 February 2021 19: 22
        +5
        Dreamers .. did these fighters take part in hostilities at least somewhere?
        but surely !? After all, in the Russian Federation, there are many non-participating models, in your quote:
        Especially in aerial battles
        type: Su-57/34/32; MiG-31 ...
      3. Azimuth
        Azimuth 8 February 2021 20: 27
        0
        Can Sweden propose to disband the army altogether?
    2. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister 7 February 2021 17: 54
      -1
      A rather original solution for the Italian Leonardo onboard radar with AFAR - a mechanical turnover in addition to electronic scanning with a modest antenna size, significantly expands the capabilities of the radar and the fighter as a whole.
      The mechanical reversing of the PAR cloth was used on the Barca and Irbis. There is nothing new in this!
    3. Intruder
      Intruder 7 February 2021 19: 09
      +10
      An excellent fighter with unique characteristics in the single-engine class.
      "Everlasting" classics, harmony of excellent characteristics with technical solutions already proven by time, the machine is really very successful and balanced - for real specialists in the sky and connoisseurs of "beautiful and flying" ...
  • bars1
    bars1 7 February 2021 17: 52
    -6
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Right by the clock, the losses of Russia are terrifying.

    It is a shame for them for the Poltava defeat ... They are worried!
  • motorized rifle
    motorized rifle 7 February 2021 21: 14
    -9
    The plane in general evokes two thoughts))).
    First, a plane-excuse: "Throw your leg kue, and the toad and sobi dae". Those. and we Swedes are also building modern aviation. It really needs to be sold to poor countries with claims, such as Ukraine. Therefore,
    The second thought: in order for this plane to somehow influence something, there should be a lot of it (them), well, let's say in a 3 to 1 ratio, i.e. 3 gripenes for 1 F-35 or more, maybe then the quantity is in quality and it will go.
    1. Klingon
      Klingon 8 February 2021 01: 08
      +6
      no need to clown about. The Swedes are on their own and provide their own army as they can. This is enough for their needs. They are also little by little
      1. motorized rifle
        motorized rifle 8 February 2021 02: 45
        -2
        So what? How does that negate the fact that this is a plane for the poor. And the fact that in order to resist the devices of the fifth generation, the flu in battle must have a numerical superiority? Are they dumbfounded? Well done! With whom the Swedes themselves, if anything, will fight on them? With NATO or Russia, or maybe with China? The relative assessment (for Swedes and other Czechs) can be positive, and the absolute assessment is absolutely independent of the relative. hi
        1. Dkuznecov
          Dkuznecov 8 February 2021 23: 45
          0
          If Flu is worth 60 million for the "poor"
          then its competitor MIG-29, according to you,
          worth 20-30 million - a piece of iron for rogue?
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik 8 February 2021 23: 53
            -1
            Quote: DKuznecov
            worth 20-30 million - a piece of iron for rogue?

            Yes, for impoverished countries that cannot afford a normal 4th generation fighter.
            The MiG-29 in the latest modifications costs the same $ 50-60 million, the price you indicated is the old modifications from the presence of the VKS, after repair.
            1. Dkuznecov
              Dkuznecov 9 February 2021 00: 03
              -1
              I agree, I only had this data,
              Unfortunately.
              And yet, the cost is quite comparable,
              which means that the term "beggars" is somewhat inappropriate.
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 9 February 2021 00: 12
                -1
                Poor countries generally cannot afford a fighter jet, this is a very expensive pleasure.
                MiG-29 and Gripen are in different categories, they do not compete directly.
                1. Dkuznecov
                  Dkuznecov 9 February 2021 00: 31
                  -1
                  I didn’t start these analogies. See above,
                  who does stuffing on the fan.
                  But personally, I am very sensitive to analogies.
                  Not every country can afford a plane.
                  But the Flu is still a minimum
                  "Lexus" in its niche.
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 9 February 2021 00: 39
                    -1
                    Quote: DKuznecov
                    But the Flu is still a minimum
                    "Lexus" in its niche.

                    This is a very good car. Practical, effective but not flashy. Compared to cars, it's like a Volvo. Lexus is still a show-off Toyota, show-off is not for Scandinavia.
                    1. Dkuznecov
                      Dkuznecov 9 February 2021 00: 48
                      -1
                      Good,
                      let's get together on Prado.
                      Or Highlander.
                      With Lexus, maybe
                      bent - but the video with 9G on low level flight - I remember.
                      1. OgnennyiKotik
                        OgnennyiKotik 9 February 2021 00: 53
                        -1
                        Quote: DKuznecov
                        let's get together on Prado.
                        Or Highlander.

                        Have agreed laughing
  • UAZ 452
    UAZ 452 7 February 2021 21: 18
    +4
    The approach deserves respect, when the aircraft begins to be supplied to the troops only after the appearance of a two-seat modification. When limited to the single-seat version, this leads to increased accidents, low pilot training, inability to use all the capabilities of technology.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 7 February 2021 22: 07
    +13
    Sweden, with a population of 10 million, has built about 200 modern fighters for its Air Force, slightly less than Russia, with a population of 147 million and a leading place in the export of oil and gas in the world.

    What's wrong with us ?! Have we completely forgotten how to work?

    Or take the Swedish Volvo and our Kamaz, why their cars are many times better than ours?
    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 8 February 2021 02: 40
      +4
      Sweden's GDP per capita is 6 times higher than in Russia, and the annual state budget is exactly the same (this is for a country with a population of 10 million people).
    2. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 8 February 2021 23: 37
      -1
      Don't be confused with mining tax
      mineral resources (MET)
      and the income of merchants.
      for example, Tatneft's indicators:
      at 31% MET, 134,3% of net profit.
      Rosneft MET indicators 27,4%
      at 347,9% of net profit.
      bcs-express.ru/novosti-i-analitika/ndpi-pochemu-eti-4-bukvy-tak-vazhny-dlia-rossiiskikh-neftianikov
  • CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 7 February 2021 23: 14
    +3
    Prekrasniy samolet i zubastiy s raketami Meteor.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 8 February 2021 01: 05
    0
    we must pay tribute, the Swedes rivet gripenes both for themselves and give them up and do not chase to buy penguins. So on your own mind. unlike the Poles for example
    1. Nestor Vlakhovski
      Nestor Vlakhovski 8 February 2021 02: 33
      -5
      Unlike the Poles, the Swedes did not know the "charms" of the half-century Soviet occupation.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 8 February 2021 08: 59
        +1
        It is immediately clear that from Kievisho. How is it, the light is still on? And then he is not supposed to be freed from the Union.
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 8 February 2021 11: 32
        0
        Firstly, there was no occupation of Poland by the USSR, power in Poland was always Polish, Poland had its own army, and all other state authorities in Poland were Polish and Poles.

        Secondly, as a result of WWII, thanks to the USSR, Poland received 25% of the historical territory of Germany - part of East Prussia, Selesia and a number of other regions. Although more than 500 Poles served in the ranks of the Wehrmacht during World War II, that is, in fact, the Poles were Germany's allies, who were simply thrown by both the Germans and the British with the French.

        Poland was deliberately "fed" to Hitler in order to open the way for him to the USSR.

        And no need to whine about the fact that after the flight of the Polish government on September 16, 1939 and the end of the existence of Poland as a state, the USSR sent troops to the territory of Western Belarus and Western Ukraine, so that these territories (which Poland captured from Russia in the 20s ) did not go to the Nazis.

        We defended ourselves and defended our people !!!

        If the USSR had a conspiracy with the Germans (as stupid pro-state politicians are now shouting), Germany and the USSR would attack you at the same time, just as you attacked Czechoslovakia simultaneously with Germany and Hungary in 1938 and tore it apart.

        Well, the Poles themselves have occupied the western part of Russia / Rus' (Ukraine and Belarus) for several centuries, so it’s not for the Poles to complain about Russia, then we will issue an invoice, you will remain there without pants!
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 8 February 2021 13: 24
          +3
          But if the Poles have claims, they can return to the Germans and territories and even the rights to Nicolaus Copernicus, who in his life did not write a word in Polish, only in German.
        2. Dkuznecov
          Dkuznecov 9 February 2021 00: 52
          -1
          "Poland was deliberately" fed "to Hitler in order to open the way for him to the USSR."
          This statement is indiscriminate.

          See how Poland and Germany “sawed”
          the eastern lands of the USSR, while still being "friends".

          The appetites of Poland did not please Hitler.
          (see Polish ambition on the wiki)
          From "you can, panim, and up to you!"

          And this card by the British
          and was played by the French.

          It was an idiotic game.
          In which everyone lost except the United States.
          There is not enough space to list,
          but they all lost.
          Except for the USA.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 9 February 2021 10: 12
            +1
            Poland was fed to Hitler, the French and British assured the Poles that in the event of an attack on Poland, they would side with them and attack Germany.

            Poland had an army of a million, against the one and a half million army of Germany, which participated in the attack on Poland and rightly believed that an alliance with France and Britain would give them a guarantee of non-aggression from Germany, since the French and British and all their other allies had more forces than Germany.

            But the Poles did not take into account the fact that France and Britain deliberately lied to them so that Poland relaxed, concentrated troops on the border with the USSR and opened the way for Germany to Warsaw.

            And so it all happened. On September 1, Germany attacked Poland, on September 3, France and Britain declared war on Germany and could have defeated it by striking in the rear - on Germany, but they had different plans, so they did not enter the war in reality.

            The West wanted to incite the best warriors of Europe - the Germans - against the USSR, and then jointly, when we and they would be bled to attack us and arrange for us a second foreign intervention.

            But Hitler was not quite and cleared out the rear before the attack on the USSR, which the French and British simply did not expect, for which they paid.

            Another interesting fact is how and how many American companies helped to restore the German economy, as well as the fact that Hitler's rise to power was sponsored by the American company Standard Oil (Rockefellers), today it is called Exxon Mobil.
            1. Dkuznecov
              Dkuznecov 10 February 2021 23: 47
              -1
              History has shown that Poland
              was always on her mind.
              And ignored the rules of the dorm to please
              their interests.
              For what, blindly and shook like
              in the hostel, in the classics and done.
              And Hitler ... he tried with Poland for a LONG time
              agree.
    2. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 8 February 2021 23: 50
      -1
      The Poles are also on their own, believe me.
      They just can't figure it out
      whether they are smart, or beautiful, according to
      anecdote about a monkey.
      There is a lot of honor.
      The neighbors diminished the ambition of the Swedes.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 8 February 2021 09: 03
    -4
    We know what the prospects are - depreciation and write-off. Gripen NG without Brazil or such a vigorous SavEtsky threat that the army has good budgets, the Swedes themselves will not pull, and this half of the "Superhornet" by the motor, 2/3 in weight, no longer pulls on a small one. It's a pity. Nice airplane.

    And those who have come to Sweden in large numbers are unlikely to know how to work as they have gotten used to over the years at Volvo or Saab.
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 8 February 2021 20: 34
    +1
    Quote: Hexenmeister
    A rather original solution for the Italian Leonardo onboard radar with AFAR - a mechanical turnover in addition to electronic scanning with a modest antenna size, significantly expands the capabilities of the radar and the fighter as a whole.
    The mechanical reversing of the PAR cloth was used on the Barca and Irbis. There is nothing new in this!

    We are talking about mechanical reversal not with PFAR, but with AFAR. In the first, any scanning is mechanical, not electronic, and therefore is called passive.
    And where does AFAR fly in the series?
    1. Hexenmeister
      Hexenmeister 8 February 2021 22: 00
      0
      What you call "passive" phased array first appeared on the MiG-31, and this antenna had electronic control of the beam position, it's a shame for forty years of this radar's existence to not know the basics !!! Active and conventional PARs were created specifically for electronic scanning!
  • Azimuth
    Azimuth 8 February 2021 20: 39
    0
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    Sweden, with a population of 10 million, has built about 200 modern fighters for its Air Force, slightly less than Russia, with a population of 147 million and a leading place in the export of oil and gas in the world.

    What's wrong with us ?! Have we completely forgotten how to work?

    Or take the Swedish Volvo and our Kamaz, why their cars are many times better than ours?
    What's wrong with us? ...
    We do not love and do not respect ourselves and our neighbors, they are lazy and stupid, now also illiterate with the departure to the past of the USSR and its education system. A degrading nation in one word.
    An explosion is needed, then there will be a turning point, another breakthrough, but there will be no breakthrough, then we will become history like the Roman Empire or Byzantine, history and development are pragmatic and merciless.
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 8 February 2021 23: 52
      -1
      There is one bright note: the USE was canceled.
      But the Unified State Exam-shniki have already given birth to their own kind
      and entered into power. And they will reign for 30 years.
  • hostel
    hostel 22 February 2021 19: 40
    0
    A very dangerous opponent in competent hands.
  • Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 12 March 2021 20: 49
    0
    I've read highly controversial articles on Flu. The Canadians wrote that in terms of maneuverability, "in general" Grippen E corresponds to Raphael and Typhoon. They are one and a half times inferior to them in combat load, and two or three times cheaper than them (both in price and in the cost of one hour of flight). The British, wrote that both Grippen and Rafale, are significantly inferior in maneuverability and climb rate to the Typhoon, (modestly keeping silent about the cost and cost of operation). UR Meteor itself is not an indicator, if desired, it can even be hung on the Phantom. The Americans say that the F-35 is better than the Grippen, and the Raphael and the Typhoon, and the F16 Block 70 "is in no way inferior to them." The Chinese write that their j10 is better than F16 and Mig35, and Grippen. Which, in general, is not true. F16Blok 70 and J-10 are ALREADY in mass production and fly. Migov35 - 6 pieces.

    The Italians, EMNIP, calculated that 15 Grippens would overwhelm 10 F-35s, being 3 times cheaper. The only thing on which ALL agree in the assessment of "Eurocanards" that the most universal, which can do absolutely everything is Rafale. And the fact that Grippen is two times cheaper to operate than F16. I just DID NOT SEE "neutral" reviews on performance characteristics of any of the 3 Eurocanards, their NEUTRAL comparison with F16 Block70, F35 and F15X. Even the Indians, when they were looking for a fighter, each time wrote a new one, then they have "F16 is a time-tested super universal platform", then they have Rafal "an aircraft unique in its versatility and performance." But there it is clear who the "writers" are more coughing up and praise. They are like scribblers. Justin Bronk, (Justin Bronk), by the way, is an Englishman, wrote that the avionics of Grippen simply and corny crushes the avionics of the Typhoon. Which I do not exclude, since the "gloomy Nordic genius" decided to concentrate on avionics and electronic warfare equipment.

    The Kandatsy compared Grippen to the Super Hornet and decided that in all respects, except for the mass of the ammunition load, Grippen calmly makes the Super Hornet, by the way, the same article said that Rafal also makes the Super Hornet, but according to ALL articles. At the 2006 Red Flag Maneuvers, ONE Grippen came out victorious time after time in a battle with 5 F16 Norwegian Air Force, converged 3 times. for the 3rd Time the Norwegians managed to reach the score 1: 5. During Loyal Arrow, one Grippen went against 3x F-15s and shot down two of them. The latter escaped with the afterburner. But the Americans said it was "dishonest" since the Swedes were "at home". I do not understand at all how it matters, aerodynamics works the same in Alabama and over Stockholm. The Swedes write that although the F16block 70+ has a higher power-to-weight ratio, Grippen has a significantly lower wing load, and aerodynamics is better, so it is wrong to compare only by thrust-to-weight ratio (in general, it is logical). And the American Nate Jaros, writes that the power-to-weight ratio of F16 Block 70 WITHOUT conformal tanks is 0.625, while Grippen has E 0.7. Even in this they cannot agree. The Swedes write one thing, the American another. By the way, the conformal tanks on F16, not only have disfigured a beautiful aircraft, but they are far from weightless, and even being "licked", worsen aerodynamics more than a little.

    But not a single article would say that with 4 missiles, air is air and with half-filled fuel tanks near Grippenn, at an altitude of 20000 feet. , Typhoon Zet, Zet1, Zet2, F1 Block 2 have such things, etc. The Swedes write that they say Grippen is so "Ahead of the whole planet" that it can only be compared with F1. The Americans tell them that they say that our F2s fly with dipole reflectors and that is the only reason why they can be detected on radars, otherwise they are invisible. In short, unfortunately there is no honest review. Everyone agrees that according to the cost / efficiency criterion, Grippen is higher than Raphael, Typhoon and F16blok 70 and above, and F35 of all models, and F35, and F16E. But I could not find specific data on flight characteristics under EQUAL conditions, data of avionics in the open press. Everyone recognizes that the Grippen E's twin infrared detection facility "greatly enhances its capabilities." And the specifics are zero.

    If the Swedes are not very cunning, then at the moment for a small and not very rich country like Belarus, or there Hungary, Serbia and Bulgaria, there is no better plane than Grippen. By the way, Grippen can carry both the RBS15 anti-ship missile and the Penguin anti-ship missile, this certainly does not make it equal to Rafal as an anti-ship aircraft, but once again emphasizes its versatility in addition to its relative cheapness. With the same money, Grippens can not only buy more, they can fly more. An hour of flight for Grippen, EMNIP is two times cheaper than an hour of flight for F16Blok 70, and F16, in turn, is cheaper than both F18 (2 thousand bucks per hour) and F15. (F15 is almost 3 times more expensive). Everyone also admits that Grippen eats a lot less fuel and is much less whimsical to maintain than any of its competitors. Interestingly, what if Russia had cut something like Grippen, but on AL31F, with a controlled thrust vector? To cover the vast extent of borders, a cheap fighter, with good electronics, and a small ammunition load - just right. Such a fighter does not need to carry 8 tons of bombs. But I already wrote about it. I am not a supporter of heavy expensive fighters at all.