Comparison of the US and Russian armies in 2020. Ground troops

Russian and US military in Syria. Photo: Federal Agency News / Ahmad Marzouk

Interest in comparing the capabilities of the US and Russian armed forces continues to this day. This topic will always remain relevant, given the existing geopolitical contradictions between the two states. The simultaneous presence of Russian and US military personnel on the territory of Syria, where they sometimes come face to face, only fuels interest in this topic. In addition, in recent years, in response to the strengthening of Russia's military capabilities and the intensification of the actions of the Russian armed forces in the post-Soviet space, NATO has increased its military presence in the Baltic countries, where units of the American armored brigade are currently based on a rotational basis.

In recent years, the combat capabilities of the armies of the two countries have significantly expanded. The Russian Armed Forces have significantly updated the material and technical park, surface fleet, air force and army Aviation, having massively received new helicopters, the country's air defense fleet was also seriously updated, which was replenished with dozens of S-400 air defense divisions. The US military continued to increase its aviation superiority, receiving more and more fifth-generation F-35 fighters of various modifications, as well as new Drones for various purposes.

The backbone of the two armies is still made up of mechanized units with a large number of armored vehicles, vehicles and self-propelled artillery. At the same time, the armies of the United States and Russia are rightly considered one of the most belligerent, a sufficient number of military personnel have real combat experience. In Russia, the Aerospace Forces and fighters of the newly created Special Operations Forces received such experience to the fullest extent. At the same time, the armies of the two states today have experience not only in counterguerrilla warfare and fighting illegal armed groups in Afghanistan and Syria, but also in more traditional wars against regular armies in Iraq and Georgia. In this regard, they are superior to the Chinese army, which over the past decades has not had real combat experience.

Signalers in the field. Photo: Russian Ministry of Defense

When thinking of the US and Russian armies, often the first thing that comes to mind is nuclear weapon... The two countries have the most powerful nuclear arsenals, but it is clear that any war using them for our civilization is likely to be the last major military conflict in stories. Therefore, we will not even consider this component and will immediately move on to other types and types of troops, starting with the ground forces of the two countries. For a comparative analysis of the armed forces, we will use the data of the annual bulletin "The Military Balance" (The Military Balance), which is compiled by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). Using the materials of this collection will bring the data for the two countries to a common denominator.

Personnel of the ground forces of the United States and Russia

In terms of the total number of military personnel, the US Armed Forces are ahead of Russia, the same applies to the mobilization potential of the two states. The US population is corny 2,23 times the population of Russia. As of 2020, there are 1 military personnel in the US armed forces (excluding the National Guard), in Russia - about 379 thousand military personnel. 800 people serve in the US Army, which is the country's ground forces, and 900 people serve in the Russian ground forces. In addition, about 481 military personnel are serving in the US National Guard. The number of Russian paramilitary formations, which primarily include the troops of the National Guard, is estimated by the compilers of The Military Balance at 750 thousand people.

Also, the tasks of the ground forces on the battlefield can be solved and successfully solved over the past decades by the US Marine Corps, in which 186 military personnel are serving. If necessary, the United States can deploy up to 300 thousand active military personnel of the Army and Marine Corps in various theaters, transferring the tasks of national defense to units of the National Guard and reservists. In Russia, taking into account the units of the Airborne Forces, which in modern Russian realities play the role of elite infantry, it is possible to deploy up to 668 thousand military personnel in the land theater of operations, and taking into account the marines from the Navy, the number of fighters can be increased to approximately 325 thousand people (360 thousand - ground forces, 280 thousand - airborne forces, 45 thousand - marines). In order not to overload the text, which is already rich in numbers, we will not compare the composition of the weapons of the US Marine Corps, the Airborne Forces and the Russian Marine Corps, limiting ourselves directly to the topic of the article - the ground forces.

Main battle tanks of Russia and the USA

The main striking force of the ground forces remains Tanks. The US Army has 2389 Abrams main battle tanks. Of these, 750 vehicles are in the M1A1 SA version, 1605 are in the M1A2 SEPv2 version and 34 are in the M1A2C version, which are currently undergoing test operation. The Russian ground forces are armed with 2800 tanks. Of these, 650 vehicles are in the T-72B/BA version, 850 in the T-72B3 version, 500 T-72B3 tanks of the 2016 modification, 330 T-80BV/U tanks, 120 T-80BVM tanks, 350 T-90/90A. Paradoxically, the T-72 tanks remain the most modern combat vehicles in the Russian army. The T-72B3 version, which was upgraded in 2016, received a new gun, a 1000 hp engine. with., improved protection, including through the use of dynamic protection "Contact-5", an automatic transmission, a rear-view television camera and other improvements. As in the United States, the Russian army is still massively using the backlog inherited from the Cold War, modernizing it and bringing it to an adequate state of today. In terms of the number of main battle tanks, the countries are almost equal, especially without taking into account the T-72B / BA tanks that are still in combat units.

M1A2 SEPv2

T-72B3 modernized. Photo: Vitaly V. Kuzmin

At the same time, both armies have a large number of tanks in storage. In the US, this is about 3300 Abrams M1A1 / A2, in Russia - more than 10 thousand tanks, of which about 7 thousand are various variants of the T-72. At the same time, the Russian army may very soon receive a fundamentally new main battle tank belonging to the next generation. Although the T-14 tank on the Armata platform has not yet been officially adopted for service, it is much closer to mass production (first presented to the public in 2015) than the new generation of American MBTs, the development process of which in the United States is just beginning.

Wheeled and tracked armored combat vehicles

The same picture as with tanks is typical for wheeled and tracked armored combat vehicles of the ground forces. Both countries are using the legacy of the Cold War to modernize it. The main infantry fighting vehicle of the American army is still the Bradley, and the Russian army has numerous BMP-1, BMP-2 and BMP-3, while Russia is actively developing a new tracked infantry fighting vehicle on the Kurganets-25 platform. The main armored personnel carrier of the Russian army remains the BTR-80 and its modernization - the BTR-82A / AM vehicles. In this regard, the US Army looks preferable, as it received numerous wheeled Strykers with a much higher level of protection for the crew and troops. Armored personnel carriers on the Boomerang wheeled platform should become similar in terms of the capabilities of the armored personnel carrier for the Russian army, the deadlines for completing the tests of which were shifted to 2021.

M2A2 "Bradley"

The total number of infantry fighting vehicles and reconnaissance vehicles based on the Bradley in service with the American army is estimated at about 3700 units (1200 M3A2 / A3 reconnaissance combat vehicles, 2500 M2A2 / A3 infantry fighting vehicles). At the same time, the total number of infantry fighting vehicles and reconnaissance combat vehicles of all types is estimated at almost 4700 units. Also in the US Army there are approximately 10 armored personnel carriers, of which approximately 500 are still tracked M5A113 / A2, as well as 3 wheeled Strykers of various modifications. The Russian army has approximately 2613 BMPs, including 4060 BMP-500s, about 1 BMP-3000s, 2 BMP-540s, and more than 3 BMP-20Ms. The number of armored personnel carriers is estimated at 3 vehicles, including 3700 BTR-100A, 80 BTR-1000A / 82AM, in addition to this, there are about 82 BTR-800 of all variants, 60 BTR-200 and 70 BTR-1500. Also in service are about 80 MTLB tracked lightly armored transporters, which, if desired, can be used as armored personnel carriers.

BMP-3. Photo: Vitaly V. Kuzmin

A distinctive feature of the American ground forces is the presence of a large number of armored vehicles with mine protection - MRAP (more than 5 thousand vehicles), military police armored vehicles and light armored vehicles. The total number of such equipment in the American army is about 10,5 thousand units. In terms of the number of such vehicles in the ground forces, Russia is an order of magnitude inferior to a potential enemy, and the only samples of domestic MRAPs produced in commercial quantities, apparently, are the Typhoon-K and Typhoon-U modifications (several hundred vehicles were produced).

Artillery of the ground forces of Russia and the USA

Despite the changing landscape of wars, artillery is still the God of War. Thanks to the use of guided munitions, new guidance and reconnaissance systems, including with the help of UAVs, the capabilities of artillery are approaching high-precision weapons. The US Army has more than 2020 artillery systems in service in 5400, of which a thousand are 155-mm self-propelled guns: 900 M109A6 and 98 M109A7. The US Army also has 1339 towed artillery pieces: 821 M105A119/2 3mm howitzers and 518 M155A777 2mm howitzers. There are only 600 MLRS units, including 375 M142 HIMARS and 225 M270A1 MLRS, these installations, when placing the appropriate launch containers and equipment, can also be used as operational-tactical missile systems. Also in the ground forces, there are approximately 2500 mortars of 81 and 120 mm caliber.

155 mm SPG M109A7.

In terms of artillery, the Russian ground forces look much more diverse, which can hardly be attributed to advantages (problems with logistics, maintenance and operation of a motley fleet of vehicles). In quantitative terms, Russia loses to the United States in artillery, but only at the expense of mortars. At the same time, the Russian ground forces have superiority in MLRS, mainly due to the large number of 122-mm MLRS BM-21 Grad / Tornado-G, as well as in self-propelled guns. And in terms of the number of various artillery systems in storage, Russia significantly outnumbers the United States. In our country, there are almost 12,5 thousand various towed artillery systems in warehouses, in addition, there are about 4300 self-propelled guns in storage, half of which are 122-mm 2S1 Gvozdika and more than 3 thousand MLRS. American stocks are much more modest and are represented by approximately 500 155-mm self-propelled guns M109A6, there is no information about other artillery systems in storage.

In total, the Russian ground forces are armed with 4340 artillery systems, including 1610 self-propelled guns, including: 150 122-mm self-propelled guns 2S1 "Gvozdika", 800 152 mm self-propelled guns 2S3 "Akatsiya", 100 152-mm self-propelled guns 2S5 "Giatsint-S" , as well as 500 of the most modern vehicles: 2S19 / 2S19M1 / 2S19M2 Msta-S / SM, in addition to this, the ground forces have 60 203-mm self-propelled guns 2S7M "Malka". Approximately 80 self-propelled artillery and mortar mounts, including 50 units of 120-mm 2S34 "Khosta" (modernized "Carnations"), as well as about 30 120-mm 2S23 "Nona-SVK" on the BTR-80 chassis, contribute their diversity. About 250 towed artillery systems remain in service, including 150 units of 152-mm MSTA-B howitzers and 100 units of 120-mm 2B16 or Nona-K, combining the capabilities of a cannon, howitzer and mortar. There are more than 860 MLRS units in the ground forces, including: 550 122-mm BM-21 Grad / Tornado-G, 200 220-mm 9P140 "Hurricane" and some 9K512 "Hurricane-1M", 100 300-mm MLRS 9A52 "Smerch" and 12 9A54 "Tornado-S". There are also more than 1540 mortars, the most interesting of which are 40 self-propelled 240-mm mortars 2S4 "Tulip".

152 mm ACS 2S19M2 Msta-SM. Photo: Vitaly V. Kuzmin

The most long-range tool of the Russian ground forces are the Iskander operational-tactical missile systems, which especially frighten our overseas partners. Officially, the firing range of these complexes is limited to 500 km. According to the annual publication The Military Balance, the Russian army is armed with 140 OTRK 9K720 Iskander-M complexes. This is the most formidable weapon of the Russian ground forces, capable of hitting targets in the depths of enemy defenses.

In summary, it can be noted that the US ground forces are superior to the Russian ground forces in terms of the number of personnel and in the number and variety of armored military equipment. The distinctive features of the ground forces of the two countries include more developed air defense systems of the Russian ground forces. First of all, due to the numerous complexes Buk-M1-2, Buk-M2 and Buk-M3 that are in service. At the same time, the United States has an overwhelming superiority in MRAP. The American infantry, when moving in the combat zone, is better protected precisely due to the massive use of such military equipment. Also an important distinguishing feature is the presence of a powerful helicopter component in the US Army (more than 700 attack and about 3 thousand transport helicopters), while in Russia attack and transport helicopters are subordinate to the Aerospace Forces (almost 800 helicopters, of which more than 390 attack).

Comments

[A good one]

Morally political image, values, gnaw at the enemy with his teeth, where the author has it. And then the game of soldiers turns out, the bookkeeping of strategists.

[Ilya-spb]

A correct comparison of the Ground Forces of Russia and the United States is possible only if, God forbid, the Americans come to visit us.

Where will we only bury their bones?

[ul_vitalii]

With their spinal cord, they feel it

[Rome]

Why bury? They must be taken prisoner, we do not have enough manpower for all national projects

[AlexSM]

Of course captured! Let the bridge to Sakhalin be built

[English tarantas]

I'm afraid they will bury their own. Moreover, with honors, for the invaluable contribution to the development of world capitalism and American "democracy".

[kieferandreas]

and that the place is small? before they came and there was a place for them, this will also find its own warm place near Martynov's stoves.

[credo]

Quote: Not bad

Morally political image, values, gnaw at the enemy with his teeth, where the author has it. And then the game of soldiers turns out, the bookkeeping of strategists.

If we are to compare the Russian Armed Forces with potential enemies, then we need to compare either separately with the United States, Germany or the Baltic states, namely with NATO as a whole, not forgetting to include Japan and some other countries of the Anglo-Saxon world.
After all, NATO was mainly created so that the United States, at the first stage of the armed conflict with the USSR, and now Russia, had cannon fodder in the form of its allies, who in the forefront would be at the forefront of the offensive and, therefore, with their weapons, they would additionally increase the total number troops of the aggressor.
And the crusades against ancient Rus' and the history of the First and Second World Wars gave us a real idea of ​​​​what the Western Catholic "civilization" is like and how it operates in military campaigns - en masse and impudently - therefore, it is necessary to consider NATO weapons, and not the United States taken separately, even if they are the most powerful army in this bloc. The habit of raking heat with the wrong hands is in their blood.

[mitroha]

In general, in this context, the armament of the US army, on the contrary, should be taken into account only partially, and the armament of the European NATO members should be considered. We are not going to the United States, just as they will not drag their entire ground forces to us.

[English tarantas]

We are not going to the United States, just as they will not drag their entire ground forces to us.

Uuuuu, they will drag while the Europans will be pulled up. No wonder they have no threat of invasion around the country and there are tanks in the National Guard.

[Temples]

NATO was created to tame the members of this very NATO. This is the main task.

As soon as our troops left the socialist countries, the socialist countries ended.

As soon as American troops leave Europe, the EU will end.

Russia is needed only to intimidate and contain the EU.

NATO is a huge market for the US military-industrial complex. EU and other sympathizers - whose clients are being kept in check by US soldiers.

And Russia is a gas station for them. In addition, US leaders know that the Russians do not want to fight them.

[kieferandreas]

so they don’t care that FACT, they don’t want to sleep with them, we don’t want to force them, you don’t know how it’s better, but there was nothing to think about before. how did someone say there? there is no desire to maintain your army, you will contain the NATO army, FEDIA IS NECESSARY.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: credo

After all, NATO was mainly created so that the United States, at the first stage of the armed conflict with the USSR, and now Russia, had cannon fodder in the form of its allies

Well, actually exactly the opposite. In order to give the European countries some kind of protection, which they themselves could not provide, especially in the realities of the early 50s, when Germany was listed among the "released on parole" and did not represent a military force.

[pereselenec]

Quote: Not bad

Morally political image, values, gnaw the enemy with his teeth, where the author has it.

And there is nothing about the readiness to steal from their own command posts. The author skewered.

[Cartalon]

The number of ground forces of the Russian Federation directly makes it clear that to fight with someone stronger than Georgia, Russia is not going to say nothing at all.

[Ilya-spb]

Stupidity!

Arguments? You are welcome! In the 19th century, an army of "twelve languages" came to Russia.
According to historians, 640 thousand people.

They were opposed by 2 armies, about 200-300 thousand people.

As a result, Napoleon's huge army "dissipated" across the occupied territory.
About a quarter went to Borodino.

And from Russia came out 30-40 thousand.

[Cartalon]

Since then, the internal combustion engine and much more have been invented.
And no army is going to enter Russia, absolutely no reason.

[Ilya-spb]

Good. With an internal combustion engine, the German fascist invaders came to us.
The luck of starting the war (surprise) was on their side.
The arrival of Napoleon was not sudden, for comparison.

Nazi Germany had 4,3 million in the west, the USSR - 3,3 million.

[Senka naughty]

Quote: Ilya-spb

The luck of starting the war (surprise) was on their side.

Treacherous - yes, but certainly not suddenly. Before attacking the USSR, Hitler spent 2 years kurales in Europe.

[kieferandreas]

what such a suddenness? the top simply did not believe that one with a short mustache would suit the one with large ones. surprise is when you are drinking tea and a meteorite falls not far away and sweeps away all the glazing of your house. and there you were informed in advance but conveyed to this of great importance.

[Foxnova]

Napoleon reached Moscow faster than Hitler

[pmkemcity]

Quote: Cartalon

Since then, the internal combustion engine and much more have been invented.

After the internal combustion engine, electric vehicles were invented. As one dissident said raising his hands, the same lover of all Americas - that's it, there will be no kin, the electricity is over! Remmber Vladivostok 2020.

[English tarantas]

When guys ride horses from Europ to Moscow, half can really get lost and dissolve. A lot of time has passed since then, now no one will "resolve". You would also remember that you can fight with stones, but the Americans will not be able to bring stones, and we will hide ours from them and throw them away.

[Ros 56]

Do not worry, Russia will put anyone with cancer, such is her fate.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

Bravada, Ros 56 ... Russia is a country on the territory of which at different times there were different cities. They were successful, there were, frankly, not very successful. And the periods in the life of these states were different.
You chose the words vulgar, although their meaning is clear to adults ...
We will put it differently. For example, like this: Who had it hard in the summer and autumn of 1941? Was it not Russia that found itself in a difficult situation due to the mistakes made by the state ,, USSR ,,?
Modern Russia also found itself in a difficult situation, thanks to the “efforts” of the state, “driving”, for 30 years on its territory. Absolutely stupid, stupid, worthless restauration of "capitalism" threw the country back in development by 40-50 years. This is clearly seen from the years of development of equipment and weapons, which form the basis of the fleet of modern RF NEs.
But even on the old, proven technique, you can demonstrate good results. The trouble is elsewhere. ,, Capitalism ,, performed by Russian-speaking traders, decomposes, incl. and personnel of the modern Army. ,, Paper waves ,, and endless ,, photo reports ,, year after year, weaken the army. Instead of a real de la - window dressing, eyewash, ,, dust in the eyes ,,. The results of such “heavy activity” are clearly visible in combat work in Syria and the NKR. Little funny. The regional power Turkey has managed to force modern Russia to play by its own rules. Thanks incl. responsible attitude to the construction of their aircraft. This is a wake up call.
What will happen if the global players - the United States or China - want to impose their will on Russia? The author of this commentary is sure that modern Russian military forces are not really ready for such “scenarios”.
"Shapkozakidatelstvo" - harmful stupidity. For centuries, it contributed to the movement towards another catastrophe in the history of the country. And a sober assessment of the state of affairs in the Russian Army has always helped and will help army building now. Including in the SV Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Where it is necessary to increase attention to changing the staffing of units, to the work of snipers, to the speedy saturation of troops with heavy armored personnel carriers, to the return of field artillery, to the modernization of equipment of engineering units ...

[set of sets]

,, The number of ground forces of the Russian Federation directly makes it clear that to fight with someone stronger than Georgia, Russia is not going to say anything at all

It's just that the author has no real data. Writes numbers from the wind of his head.

[Horst78]

That's it. It makes no sense to compare the amount. And by the way, where did the Carnations and D-30s go in our army?

[businessv]

Quote: Cartalon

to fight with someone stronger than Georgia, Russia is not going to say nothing at all.

It's funny! Do you think that Russia itself chooses an enemy and begins to fight with him? Really? Based on this, if the enemy is strong, then we categorically refuse to fight with him and go home! At school, a subject is studied, called history, at your leisure, read about the history of Russian wars.

[Left shot]

Are you hinting that Russia is afraid of Banderostan?

[Lech from Android.]

War is always accounting ... When planning operations, literally everything is calculated, from uniforms to the last nail in the dugout, not only with us, but also with the enemy, every little thing matters. The General Staff has smart heads who are doing this ... Thanks to the author for the numbers.

[ul_vitalii]

The numbers are for the impressionable, but forgot about the ravines, since it is smooth on paper, who will count it according to you?

[Lech from Android.]

If there is a shortage of ammunition at a critical moment, you will pray to God to bring them up in time ... You cannot defeat the enemy with courage alone.

[Boris Chernikov]

not only will we need to pray for "bring the shells"

[Ros 56]

Well, according to all these calculations, the Germans were supposed to hold a parade in the fall of 41 on Red Square, but in the end .....?

[Lech from Android.]

The calculations of the Germans turned out to be a failure, they expected to fight with the USSR as with France, and did not take into account the stubbornness of the Soviet soldiers. They wanted to end the war in three months without taking into account force majeure, so they paid for their stupidity. Germany's resources were not designed for a long war, which is why Hitler wanted to resolve the military campaign in the east with a blitzkrieg before winter.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The calculations of the Germans turned out to be a failure, they hoped to fight the USSR as with France and did not take into account the stubbornness of the Soviet soldiers. They wanted to end the war in three months without taking into account force majeure, so they paid for their stupidity.

They did not take into account the stubbornness, of course, but mainly they miscalculated the economic and mobilization power of the USSR.

[Russia]

Quote: Lech from Android.

and did not take into account the stubbornness of Soviet soldiers

And this is not the courage of Soviet soldiers, sofa warrior?

[Lech from Android.]

Go to personality ... Mr. provocateur.

[Russia]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Go to personality ... Mr. provocateur.

What kind of provocateur? When you are a typical Vlasovite, you read your posts as you bustle, jumps from fifth to tenth. Eh, sonny, if you had come to me in the service, maybe you got a mountain, and so mama's son, chicken.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The calculations of the Germans turned out to be a failure

Halder's calculations were absolutely correct. But Hitler was a little more optimistic than he should have been. Blitzkrieg could not end the war with the USSR for purely geographical reasons.

[WapentakeLokki]

..a very small (just MIN-minemori) margin of safety of the Barbarossa plan... any deviation from the pace, in the end, resulted in a delay in the campaign and .. the arrival of winter .. which in itself once again speaks of the ill-conceivedness of Directive No. 21 .. .expected to defeat the Red Army by frost and meet it (winter) in apartments (in captured Moscow and St. Petersburg), but then the delay there dragged out the encirclement and .. they froze and got knocked down from the approaching Siberian divisions .. and this was the beginning of the end (both directly and figuratively)

[Momotomba]

Quote: WapentakeLokki

approached Siberian divisions

There were 17 of the 96 defending Moscow. Let's not forget the rest ...

[Blackmokona]

Just according to the calculations, the number of tanks, aircraft and other things. It was the USSR that was supposed to meet the winter of 1941 in Berlin. But Blitzkrieg turned out to be a very cool strategic idea.

[WapentakeLokki]

The bastard and the traitor Rezun once wrote about the Arab-Israeli wars (it fits PERFECTLY to the 1941 Red Army) ... what's the point that you have THREE QUEENS on the chessboard at once ... if you DON'T KNOW at chess ...

[Vadim Golubkov]

Not by number, but by skill ... The main postulate. We are the Winner People, and it’s not something that will not happen, we will not put our Grandfathers, Fathers to shame.

[Lech from Android.]

Where can we find Suvorov Alexander Vasilyevich with his miracle heroes?

[Ros 56]

Well, you don't have it on Android, but we will find it, and the Suvorovs with the Kutuzovs and the miracle of heroes.
Ask the Syrian barmaley, and you can also ask the Georgians.

[Lech from Android.]

Who has it ... On the couch or what? Will you smash the enemy with slogans?

[Ros 56]

Be so kind as to read my previous comment to the end, but for you I repeat, ask the Georgians and the barmaley, were they smashed with slogans?

[Lech from Android.]

I asked ... Remember that Shamanov spoke about the Georgian drones hanging over the head of the landing force or the artillery attack on the headquarters column in which many of our people were killed. In Syria, there were also elements of carelessness at the first stage, Thank God they made the right conclusions.

[Lech from Android.]

How many heroes are there, ready, like Mehlis, to throw our soldiers with their chest on the embrasure.

[Catfish]

Lyosh, hello. It makes no sense to throw known objects in an understandable direction. They all never served anywhere, and if something happened, all these screamers-shyhapkozakidatel will be the first to run in the opposite direction from the front line. Well, nafig them, are you going to explain the safety rules when handling a grenade to a monkey, but does she need it? Here I am about it.

[Gueuze Ulenspiegel]

"How can Mekhlis throw our soldiers ...." Son, have you studied the history of Solzhenitsen and Volkogonov? Mehlis HAD NO SUCH RIGHT, to throw someone somewhere.

[paul3390]

Yes, we have put them to shame nowhere further, without a fight giving the bourgeois the socialist homeland, which the grandfathers created by hard work and for which they fought and died ..

[Lech from Android.]

Well, this is another question, it is cheaper to fight by sending your spies and traitors into the enemy's camp, destroying the country from within with their hands. Gorbachev's activities as USSR Secretary General fully fall under the definition of betrayal of the interests of the state.

[Sergey M. Karasev]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Well, this is another question, it is cheaper to fight by sending your spies and traitors into the enemy's camp, destroying the country from within with their hands. Gorbachev's activities as USSR Secretary General fully fall under the definition of betrayal of the interests of the state.

Why don't we do this? Out of principle, or are we not able to? The method is really effective and does not involve sacrifices on its part. True, it takes time. And now we have just little time.

[English tarantas]

Why don't we? But did South Korea or South Vietnam, under the regime of all trash on American principles, pursue an independent, clear, independent, strong, nationally and socially oriented policy? No, then they clung to the last helicopters if they didn't have time to hang them on the square. Belly fattened and dumped when hot, that's all capitalism.

[WapentakeLokki]

..and how often in the history of the Soviets we fought ABILITY ??? .. examples plizz

[A good one]

Quote: certero

Quote: Not bad

Morally political image, values, gnaw the enemy with his teeth, where is the author

As soon as they begin to talk about heroism, it means that the bosses have screwed up somewhere.
I like it better when enemies heroically die for their homeland and our soldiers iron them from afar with the help of technology.
And if we talk about the one whose army is more heroic, one should not think that the Americans will be less patriotic than ours.

We began for the peace, and finished already for health, comrade you are walking the right path, form and hone your patriotism further, my friend.

[OgnennyiKotik]

It's a pity there is no information on the UAV. Is it possible to add?
In open sources, there is only infa for 2014 by the US Armed Forces.

As of January 2014, the US military operates a large number of unmanned aerial systems (UAVs or Unmanned Air Vehicles): 7,362 RQ-11 Ravens; 990 AeroVironment Wasp IIIs; 1,137 AeroVironment RQ-20 Pumas; and 306 RQ-16 T-Hawk small UAS systems and 491 RQ-7 Shadows;

[Boris Chernikov]

And then comes Russia with 2 small and medium-sized UAVs.

[A good one]

Quote: Lech from Android.

If there is a shortage of ammunition at a critical moment, you will pray to God to bring them up in time ... You cannot defeat the enemy with courage alone.

Decided to sit out, brave man? Have you already started making excuses for yourself and your actions?

[Lech from Android.]

Calmly, Comrade Commissar Mauser, hold back for the enemy.

[A good one]

Why look for the enemy when the counter is at hand and will not calm down.

[Lech from Android.]

Yeah, yes, I'll smack you with my hand as a military expert.
There were two comrades serving.
Comrade commissar would go to hell.

[paul3390]

The comparison is not very correct, because the Americans are very unlikely to climb to us alone. All sorts of Pole-Romanians will certainly fit in .. The sense from them is really very doubtful, but still. On the other hand, America will not be able to attack us directly with the whole horde, all sorts of military bases in other countries also need to be guarded. Yes, and they have enough enemies besides us .. Again - all their equipment and people still somehow need to be delivered to our borders, and then supplied .. So ..

[Lech from Android.]

The Croats in INOsmi have already calculated a US military operation against our group of forces in Kaliningrad. According to their version, US troops will advance through Vladivostok and Siberia. I laughed notably at their opus ... read it for fun.

[ccsr]

Author:
Yuferev Sergey

Interest in comparing the capabilities of the US and Russian armed forces continues to this day. This topic will always remain relevant, given the existing geopolitical contradictions between the two states. The simultaneous presence of Russian and US military personnel in Syria, where they sometimes come face to face, only fuels interest in this topic.

Of course, there will be many more speculations about comparisons between the two armies, everyone wants to demonstrate their cleverness, but what's the point of comparing this against the background of Syria? Even if we all lost to the Americans in Syria, and we had to hastily get out of there, all the same, it would have nothing to do with our military power at all.
Well, a nuclear power cannot be measured by how many militants we killed, and how many Americans, and whose equipment and weapons were cooler in the Syrian conflict. We are at a different level of weapons that allow us to destroy the United States, and therefore everything else is just a whim of people who are far from the strategic assessments of the potential of the two countries, no matter what the layout of tanks, artillery, etc. they did not bring - all this is insignificant.

[Russia]

Indeed, they will not have ideal conditions. Totally agree with you.

[WapentakeLokki]

... and it would not be bad to demonstrate to us this determination, in which case, apply the ''last argument'' and not make another compromise by pouring into the toilet both the achievements of the ancestors and the very word Russia ... that's when we will respond SHARPLY to the provocation here then they will begin to reckon with us as with a ''nuclear power'', but for now, the Americans do not even consider defense in their strategy, initially assigning us the role of a patient ... and they have reason for this ... as you think ..

[English tarantas]

we will answer SHARPLY

If you have never been molested by a group of dubious individuals in an alley, I envy you. It's just that you can easily get into a situation where a stupid bully reacted extremely aggressively to just a sidelong glance in his direction and fell into a trap, although when they already spit in the face it's too late to react.

[WapentakeLokki]

... and what are you more afraid of .. that these same ''personalities'' will snitch on you or that you will ''respond too sharply'' by starting to bring down the gopota without looking at everything that comes later ... and our dear state court is in you- he’ll close it because he doesn’t need you like that, he’s more or less the option when you wiped yourself off and didn’t appear for the future, but along the wall along the wall .. otherwise get used to solving problems like this .. and he (goss-woo) needs it. ..
py.sy ... by the way, I always try to solve my problems without witnesses and, I don't wait for our battered lamps ... for there are very, very doubts that they will not make me extreme ... somehow ...

[English tarantas]

You could imagine an example in your head, but you could not transfer it to big politics. I worry about my unbroken head. In politics, all the gopniks, and if some interfere with others' lives, then they either obey them, or agree on a parity of forces, or gather their crowd and deal with a smart approach. Here are examples for you, North Korea can and does say whatever they want towards the United States, only they live in siege and exile and can’t really do anything, Russia on the sly begins to make politics, Crimea, Syria, in fact, desperate steps, otherwise it will also be like in North Korea is pleased with the very fact that at least we can do this, and how many sanctions, how much the ruble has fallen, but there is China, a strong country, very strong, quietly crushing its interests where necessary, while adequately responding to all attacks.

[WapentakeLokki]

... I don't remember who said THIS but ... if you have a choice; SHAME or WAR then choosing shame you will still get shame and war ...
py.sy .. in your case .. in the version of the gateway and the crowd of gopots ... what will happen if you find yourself there alone and with your family ... and behind your wide (after all, for your relatives your shoulders are wide) shoulders will be your daughter’s wife or sons .. and what then .. give them up hoping that later .. someday ... you will take terrible revenge ... because a living jackal is better than a dead lion ... yeah

[ccsr]

Quote: WapentakeLokki

then they will begin to reckon with us as a `` nuclear power '', but for now the Americans do not even consider defense in their strategy, initially assigning us the role of a terpily ... and they have reasons for this ... as in your opinion ..

In fact, they have always reckoned with our nuclear power even in the days of the drunk Yeltsin, so you are simply not in the subject of their strategy. And they are still considered - there are no idiots who do not understand that they will simply be destroyed in case of nuclear strikes.
But in general, their strategy lies precisely in the fact that, realizing that we cannot be defeated in a nuclear war, they are trying in various ways, including by involving us in local conflicts, to destroy our economy as much as possible. And this, in turn, will lead to technological backwardness and impoverishment, which will cause the destruction of our state. This is clearly seen in the example of Ukraine, a country that produced rockets and satellites, and now has reduced its population to the level of guest workers in Poland and other countries.

[WapentakeLokki]

..who prevented Nicholas 1 (just in case the Emperor of All Russia) during the Crimean War to throw squeakers to the Irish Fenians and Indian sepoys ... cleanliness or principles (like let us lose but not transgress ... yeah bequeathed to us by our grandfathers .. the appearance of morality ..) ... so it's all about desire and .. in my opinion ... THE MAIN RULE ... everything that is for the good of OUR COUNTRY --- IS ACCEPTABLE .... the end justifies the means .. as long as the means justify the end ...

[ccsr]

Quote: WapentakeLokki

..who prevented Nicholas 1 (just in case, the Emperor of All Russia) during the Crimean War to throw pishchals to the Irish Fenians and Indian Sepoys ... cleanliness or principles

The English fleet would have been in the way.

Quote: WapentakeLokki

.THE MAIN RULE ... everything that is for the good of OUR COUNTRY is PERMISSIBLE ..

I completely agree with your rule for OUR country.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: ccsr

We are at a different level of weapons, which allow us to destroy the United States, and therefore everything else is just a whim of people far from strategic assessments of the potential of the two countries, no matter what layouts for tanks, artillery, etc. they did not give - all this is irrelevant.

And why not disperse all these parasites, except for the strategic nuclear forces? Let the streets sweep.

[ccsr]

Quote: Cherry Nine

And why not disperse all these parasites, except for the strategic nuclear forces? Let the streets sweep.

This question is very interesting, and until now, starting with the Soviet Army, no one can really formulate at least what ratio of different branches and types of troops should be in the modern Russian army. Unfortunately, we have no idea what position the Russian government will take in this or that political and military confrontation with the West in order to unambiguously decide what we need and what can be reduced to a minimum. For example, we were too preoccupied with the destruction of Syrian militants together with the West, and instead of a short-term operation using all non-nuclear power, we suddenly got stuck for many years, and now we don’t know how to get out of there.
The same thing is happening now in Karabakh - we have signed for five years, but there the power may change and we will simply be thrown out of that region, going under the wing of the Americans.
But this is only part of our problems, and there are others. For example, our military-industrial complex is a guarantee of our independence, which means it needs to be fed and cherished, and the sale of conventional weapons is a big plus for our country. How to sell conventional weapons if they will not be used by the Russian army - who will buy them?
Do we need conventional troops in case of disasters, if the Ministry of Emergency Situations does not cope - also an open question in our vast territory.
And this is just a number of problems of our army that lie on the surface, and there are many hidden ones, which is why we cannot make it only in the form of strategic nuclear forces.
However, I don’t presume to say that I understand everything correctly, but it seems to me that this is what makes me contain, as you put it, "parasites", although I do not consider them that way. But the fact that the question of the qualitative composition of our armed forces has long been ripe is obvious to me since Soviet times, when we could destroy the entire planet several times.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: ccsr

no one can clearly formulate at least what the ratio of different types and types of troops should be in the modern Russian army. Unfortunately, we do not even have a clue what position the Russian government will choose in this or that political and military confrontation with the West, in order to unambiguously determine what we need and what can be reduced to a minimum.

Yeah. And at the expense of confrontation not with the West I would not think so, life is full of surprises.

Quote: ccsr

this is what makes them contain, as you put it, "parasites", although I do not consider them that way.

These are not arguments. And the argument is that someone doesn't want to do their job and make the decisions mentioned above (and many others).

[K-50]

For some reason, when they talk about the size of the army of pin-donniks, they all the time forget that this "crowd" is scattered across different countries and it is not at all quick to assemble it, "quickly".
And even more so, it won't be noticeable to do it.
About the Army of Russia they forget about millions, I am not afraid of this word, reservists-storekeepers. if not tens of millions.
So it is by no means an easy task to argue over who is more.

[Boris Chernikov]

I agree, it would be nice if the actual fees were held

[English tarantas]

Well, let's get the data, how many and where do the Americans sit? And let's not talk about our "gold reserves", there are either old people, or professional laborers, like the Americans with reserves, I don’t know, but I do know about our army.

[parusnik]

All America is in terrible turmoil:
The White House is sick with war
But in their public
speeches
Says that this world is a wall!
Sing, swallow, sing!
The world breathes in spring
Let the arsonist wheeze and scream -
The dove is flying!

[Tsoy]

Article compote. Numbers merge with names and everything turns into a mess. Text is not the best way to make comparisons. It is better to use tables for this. In general, these data are paper-based and do not reflect reality much. How many are combat-ready, performance characteristics of a particular type of weapon, etc., etc.

[ul_vitalii]

Kissel in milk, for the impressionable and upset breastfeeding.

[bandabas]

In technology, everything can and is not bad. And in the personnel ... Well, it is simply impossible to make a specialist in 1 year. It doesn't matter if it's a motorized rifleman or a sailor. For 2 and 3 they still managed. IN USSR..

[kamakama]

Excuse me, but what is the National Guard of the Russian Federation, numbering as many as 550 thousand people and 2 times more than the active army?!?!

[Sergej1972]

340 thousand people in the National Guard. These are military personnel, police officers and civilian personnel. Non-departmental security, for example, is part of the Rosgvardia, not military personnel, but policemen serve there.

[Tsoy]

Non-departmental security, for example, is part of the Rosgvardia, not military personnel, but policemen serve there.

Another riot police, sobr, internal troops (maroon berets).
According to this logic, the author had to add their cops to the USA. The National Guard of the Russian Federation is absolutely different both in structure and in tasks. The names are similar, but absolutely not the same as in the United States. They have eprst in the guards have aviation and armored vehicles up to tanks.

[Boris Chernikov]

technically FSVNG can qualify as light infantry + elite infantry / special forces in places ..

[bandabas]

Rossguard. Submission directly to the "guarantor".

[kamakama]

The National Guard, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other Ministry of Internal Affairs fundamentally do not fit the definition of army structures. They have neither suitable weapons, nor tactics of use, nor the experience of command in combat conditions among officers against an equivalent enemy, and not the civilian population. From the point of view of the military commissar, these are nothing more than conscripts trained to shoot (it is not known how) and march (also in question).
I think that the army reserves have better skills than all of these structures. Still, the fees were more often ...

[Tsoy]

Rosgvardia, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and other Ministry of Internal Affairs fundamentally do not fit the definition of army structures.

Purely police units for use against gangs inside the country. Why they were tied up in comparison, one author knows.

[Left shot]

They are sharpened against pensioners and women at rallies. "Band formations" ...

[whiteidol]

They are the only ones who go to rallies. Yes?

[Boris Chernikov]

part of the special forces has not been canceled, so that the protection of objects and the functions of ensuring law and order / smersh / barrage detachments in the event of a big war, they can quite fulfill themselves

[English tarantas]

They collected all sorts of things from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, such as private security, all sorts of riot police, internal troops and called the National Guard, krch a hodgepodge of cops for the most part performing the functions of PPS and cordon at rallies (due to the precedents of the theft of OMON from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Internal Affairs created again the OMON, which they were taken away), in general, it cannot be compared with the American National Guard. In our National Guard, at least explosives are turned on, but those have almost an army structure, with tanks and artillery, it seems that they even have helicopters.

[Tsoy]

In our National Guard, at least the explosives are on, but those have almost an army structure, with tanks and artillery, like even helicopters have

It seems that the Apache gave all the combat helicopters to them.

[iouris]

Why compare the incomparable?

[CommanderDIVA]

Sane people are sitting across the ocean, no one will go to war against a Russian bear waving a nuclear club, the screeches of the limitrophes along our borders do not count, but VVP said that they would all die if anything, I have another question, having in our warehouses in reserve such a huge number of old tanks, armored personnel carriers and artillery systems, why don't we sell them in large quantities to other countries? Yes, even if at least barter in exchange for rare earth metals, uranium, polladium, real estate, repurchase of debt obligations, etc., is it a gold mine, again the zagashniki do not get their hands cleaned? I remember in the media there were photos of sites with armored vehicles in storage at the Kharkov armored plant, tank hulls with rotted electrical wiring and peeling paint, we hardly have better

[Boris Chernikov]

technically, there are options to set dogs on us in order to tear up forces and resources, or to show the authorities' failure by defeating the RA in a separate region, for example, in the PMR

[English tarantas]

Kakly sold out, what they have there with the army, and with politics in general?

[Horon]

As soon as I read:

The population of the United States is trite 2,23 times the population of Russia.

That is the previous phrase of the author about nuclear weapons:

but it is quite clear that any war using them for our civilization is likely to be the last major military conflict in history

Reduces all subsequent "analysis" to empty ranting. In the absence of motivation to use nuclear weapons in the event of a serious conflict, Russia will face the fate of Yugoslavia and Iraq. It will be a battle between a teenager and a gang of punks led by a bully bully. Half the world works for the US military, and someone else is trying to compare weight categories. They don’t try to bomb us just for the reason: “the evil Russian barbarians, drunkenly, will launch nuclear weapons at the best representatives of civilization,” but if they are convinced of the opposite, or neutralize the nuclear potential, do not hesitate, the Russians will be driven to where Susanin did not even take the Poles. The highest status of Western civilizers should not be questioned by anyone!

[Tagan]

Quote: Cartalon

The number of ground forces of the Russian Federation directly makes it clear that to fight with someone stronger than Georgia, Russia is not going to say nothing at all.

Shaw, has Ukraine already defeated everyone?

[BAI]

In summary, it can be noted that the US ground forces are superior to the Russian ground forces in terms of the number of personnel and the number and variety of armored combat equipment.

It should be taken into account that if a global military conflict starts, it will start on the territory of Russia. Because Russia is not going to attack first. And all 100% of the US personnel and weapons will not be transferred to Russia. On the other hand, henchmen from NATO (Poland, Romania and Tribalts) will immediately intervene in the conflict. The rest will think and intervene a little later. Well, Georgia and Ukraine will sit on their tails to them.
By the way, nuclear weapons will immediately make adjustments to the strength of the Armed Forces. And in densely populated countries, problems with a mobile reserve will arise earlier than sparsely populated ones.

[English tarantas]

And in densely populated countries problems with mobreservation will arise earlier than sparsely populated ones.

It’s not a fact, if you smear it in every city, for which there are more than enough warheads with a known effect, the population will end everywhere.

[113262a]

The article is so-so! From my bell tower, I was lucky to serve urgently on the t-80 in the GSVG, then, at 14-on the t-64bv, I’ll say this, if from the distant eighties the Americans never moved from the Abrams to some kind of Centurions with Chieftains, then the Russian army, having on armament of a thousand and eighty (at least 1 Tank Army withdrawn from the Western Group of Forces) - peresela on tanks for the poor-t-72. And whatever you call them, that's what they are. Even the capricious and crackling 64 is simply a masterpiece in comparison! Who needs this amount when QUALITY rusts at storage sites and is preparing for eternal parking in the swamps of the Arctic? Why are the Abrams with their low-resource and super-gluttonous gas turbine engines still in service, and our BREAKTHROUGH TANKS where wolves don’t go for the most part? Is this not sabotage? Moreover, the Klimovsk Design Bureau and the motor plant in St. Petersburg still remained in the Russian Federation - it is possible and necessary to make the same 1100T and 1250TF. And they are not afraid of dust or frost - our cars didn’t have this problem and don’t have it. Yes, and changing it during military repairs is a pleasure, compared to crap 72 .. And so, the backbone of the ground forces is on the miserable product of UVZ, how much them, as a percentage of those 90s? Fight against amers on abrams, using ersatz for tank biathlon? So it doesn’t ride, and it doesn’t shoot! By the way, in 83 he himself didn’t thunder to Assad’s dad for help precisely in the 80s! For then they understood what and where should fight. Then they made peace with God's chosen ones.

[Dkuznecov]

Author, will there be a continuation?
About aviation and navy?

[DAQ]

Quote: Choi

Non-departmental security, for example, is part of the Rosgvardia, not military personnel, but policemen serve there.

Another riot police, sobr, internal troops (maroon berets).
According to this logic, the author had to add their cops to the USA. The National Guard of the Russian Federation is absolutely different both in structure and in tasks. The names are similar, but absolutely not the same as in the United States. They have eprst in the guards have aviation and armored vehicles up to tanks.

Up to the F-15 fighters.
And in general, the National Guard is not a weak state in terms of its composition as the armed forces.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Rave. For a grenade launcher, a cannon, it doesn't matter what to replace a Stryker or an armored personnel carrier 60.

[Cherry Nine]

Striker is not supposed to fight with art, and he is very well protected from RPG-7 and mines.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Even Abrams is not protected from RPG7 (except for the forehead), and the Strikers are snapping like nuts, unless of course the soldiers are normal, not Iraqis, although they beat them to the fullest. The Striker's armor limit is 30mm shells, if you're lucky. The only advantage: protection from mines and the survival of the crew after the destruction of the vehicle.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Even Abrams is not protected from RPG7

Almost any samples of Western armored vehicles are protected from RPG-7, unless Allah himself personally directs the grenade where necessary.

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Striker Armor Limit 30mm Projectiles

Protection from kinetics and from RPGs is done in different ways.

Quote: Victor Sergeev

The only advantage: ... the survival of the crew after the destruction of the vehicle.

Uh-huh. For this, and sawed, in fact.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Do the Germans and Americans know that they have armor with the equivalent of 600 mm in their tanks? All western tanks from the side are paper, their maximum is 30 mm cannon, otherwise it would have turned out to be a Mouse-type monster. The only tanks with full circular powerful armor were made in the USSR, and now also in China.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

Do the Germans and Americans know that they have armor with the equivalent of 600 mm in their tanks?

Of course they do. I will not say for the Germans, but the Americans did not invent their urban whales out of idleness. And, by the way, RPGs have been seen more than once and a hundred.

[zwlad]

Are the American soldiers ready to fertilize the vastness of Russia with their bodies? Here I strongly doubt it. They will either drive the Gay Europeans to the slaughter again, or they will sit quietly on their continent. Even Vietnam was too tough for them. Why should they conquer Mother Russia?

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: zwlad

Are the American soldiers ready to fertilize the vastness of Russia with their bodies?

Yes.
The US losses in the "war on terror" are higher than in the PAC, but they are completely insensitive to them. The Iraqi army, which in terms of the number and training of soldiers, and the venality of generals is quite comparable with the Russian army, was rolled out at the cost of 170 killed per month.

Another thing is that to conquer somehow unnecessarily.

[tolancop]

Ambiguous impression of the material. There seem to be a lot of numbers and everything is to the point, but while reading, I didn’t leave the feeling that something was missing ... When I finished reading, I understood ... The author compares the number of armored vehicles. And where is the comparison of anti-tank weapons? And the question is important: back in Soviet times, at the negotiations on arms limitation, if memory serves, then 1 helicopter was equated to 18 tanks. These are helicopters. What about attack aircraft like the Su-25 and A10? Will she stand on the sidelines? And since they mentioned aviation, then it’s not good to bypass military air defense either ...
One-sided material came out ... With a claim for analysis, but at the end there is nothing, since the analysis is clearly not complete

[faiver]

Comparison of armies does not make sense, it is enough to remember where most of the kids of our elite go to study ...

[Hey]

Name at least one official war with the United States. Name at least one battle on Russian territory with the Americans. In the two world won were the USA allies of Russia?
There was a confrontation - there was (even around the world). They beat each other by mistake - they beat each other. Allies were - were (albeit so-so, well, they helped something) Provocations were - were, and now they continue.
Americans are not stupid to fight us. They will pack, but not fight.

[Salty]

Quote: MUD

Name at least one official war with the United States. Name at least one battle on Russian territory with the Americans. In the two world won were the USA allies of Russia?
There was a confrontation - there was (even around the world). They beat each other by mistake - they beat each other. Allies were - were (albeit so-so, well, they helped something) Provocations were - were, and now they continue.
Americans are not stupid to fight us. They will pack, but not fight.

I don’t even know what to say ... the Americans are serious if they are an enemy rather than an ally.

On the other hand - everything you said seems to be correct

Well, on this funny note ... plus, for optimism

[Left shot]

Googled "American intervention in Russia". And educate yourself.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: Shot from the left

Googled "American intervention in Russia". And educate yourself.

And what did the supreme ruler of Russia Kolchak Alexander Vasilyevich think about this? So objected?

[Left shot]

Are we talking about the Americans or Kolchak?

[Cherry Nine]

In the sense of? In the 18th year, there is the Russian government, there are its allies and there are rebels who conspired with the military enemy and surrendered half the country to him.

What place did the Americans play in this scenario?

[Left shot]

What other rioters? There is a state and power that rules in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
Kolchak is nobody, he was the first to swear allegiance to the Provisional Government, which does not exist.
And yes, no need to speak with Kolchak, we are talking about the Americans who invaded Russia. Neither the tsar, nor the Provisional Government, nor the government of the Soviets called them.
Kolchak is a drug addict, a British employee, in general - an impostor, we are not interested in a conversation.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: Shot from the left

And the ruler of Russia Kolchak was no more than Oorfene Deuce - the trampler of the Universe.

Yes, you are right here, of course. Of the rulers of Russia, it made sense to talk only with Gindeburg. Alas, the Americans did not understand the local realities.

Quote: Shot from the left

There is a state and power that rules in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

There are incomprehensible dudes, who no one can call them. Governors of the people. Hiding under fictitious names. They became the government of the country on November 16, 1933, at least for the United States.

Quote: Shot from the left

No king

King of everything, for quite some time.

Quote: Shot from the left

nor the Provisional Government

It was the Bolsheviks who broke up the temporary ones. For temporary Kolchak-Denikin.

Quote: Shot from the left

nor the power of the Soviets

There is no such.

Quote: Shot from the left

we are not interested in a conversation.

You are not interested, but the Americans (although in the north they were formally the British) - interesting.

[Left shot]

Again, a lot of sideways words ... so was the invasion of the American military forces in Russia or not? The question is rhetorical. It was. Dot.

[Cherry Nine]

Quote: Shot from the left

Was this the invasion of Russia by American forces or not?

There was fraternal assistance to the legitimate government (c).

[Left shot]

In the third round. Why is this power legitimate? Kolchak swore allegiance to the Provisional Government, which no longer exists, he is a foreign soldier, otherwise he is an impostor and a ruler of something no greater than Oorfene Deuce.
All, on the 4th circle we will no longer.

[Left shot]

... And the ruler of Russia Kolchak was no more than Oorfene Deuce - the trampler of the Universe.

[Essex62]

Look what they started singing. They are legitimate, they crushed these "legitimate" ones, along with bourgeois help. And they hoisted the Red Banner of Labor over Russia.
Interventions - brotherly help? Eh, the haters of Soviet Power and the working people have already agreed to the point of absurdity.

[Azimuth]

I don’t know the reasons, I don’t understand the author’s urge to compare the potential of the ground forces.

The US Army has a significant quantitative and most importantly qualitative advantage over ours, and TOTAL.

We have no ideology and national idea as a result of the consolidation of society. We have no national leader. As a result of decades of failed domestic politics, we are no longer attractive and the center of attraction for our former outskirts, there are no centrifugal processes at all. In fact, our encirclement ends through these outskirts.

The only thing that guarantees us non-aggression is thanks to grandfathers and fathers for nuclear weapons and strategic nuclear forces in general. But the Americans are not sitting idly by and are gradually solving the problem of reducing not only damage, but the likelihood of a retaliatory strike. The flight time of their missiles is being reduced, they are getting closer and closer to the areas of combat duty of our missilemen, and the probability of hitting the areas where our main units of the Strategic Missile Forces are based increases accordingly. Nuclear submarines and long-range aviation - it’s simply not worth talking about them seriously in the light of the US advantage, all our hope is silo launchers and mobile soil complexes.

It remains to be hoped that history will repeat itself and after a series of mediocre and faceless little men, another Ivan, Peter, Ekaterina or Joseph Vissarionovich will come to power in the country. If not fate, then the next decades are the last in the history of our country ALREADY shrunk to the size of the RSFSR, and then only to the size of the Muscovite Kingdom, if not worse - into small "principalities" mired in internecine strife.
Wildly? Well, if they told me this about the USSR in the early 80s of the last century, I would also take the interlocutor for a madman. So we have little time, society is inert and inactive, there is still hope for a leader.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Well, you are talking nonsense. Do Americans have a national idea? The USA is a set of rednecks who think about themselves and only about themselves, emigrants who are ready to go anywhere if they smell burnt. The United States has neither qualitative nor quantitative total superiority. The American army consists of geeks gathered from everywhere, those who want to get an education for free go there, any rabble that is not able to find themselves in civilian life. In a collision with a strong enemy, the Americans will run, as in the Ardennes, they want to live too much. Americans do not have the main concept of "Motherland".
Your trouble is that you have not understood the Russian soul, but we can swear at power, gnaw at each other, but if the enemy comes, first we will outweigh the so-called "liberals", and then we will stand up for the Motherland.

[Azimuth]

So it was, mothers, they went to the front from the camps, BUT everything has a resource and everything has a reason.
There was a king, father, there was a way of life and a national idea, and our Slavs, slaves, serfs, freed brothers, took a pitchfork and drove Napoleon.
There was Joseph Vissarionovich, there was an ideology and an idea, a large-scale modernization of the economy and industry was carried out, as they would now say.
There was a rise under Catherine after decades of decline, there was a revolution and a coup made by Peter, who pushed off the foundation laid by Ivan.

What now? In addition to your naive belief uryakalka? What have you seen in the last story? Whom did the soldiers and officers of the Soviet Army hang, who were quietly strangled in bed by the heroes of the KGB of the USSR, when they were tearing their homeland to pieces? ... Or have you forgotten about the nickname "federals" in the last war on our land?

About Americans.
Have you personally been to the States? Do you personally know Americans? Do you know their history?
Americans are not only the son of Dima Medvedev or the daughter of Sergei Lavrov, as you put it, rabble from all over the world.
Do you even understand what you are writing yourself? I quote:

The American army is made up of geeks gathered from everywhere those who want to get education for free go there, all the rabble not able to find themselves in civilian life.

Excuse me, my friend, but how I did not recognize you at once! I confess, Mr. Abramovich ... But let me note your Moishestvo, that children of oligarchs like you are not going to our army, and not because they have a large choice in civilian life ...
The feeling that not only have you not been to the United States and do not know the Americans, but you do not live with us, but on Mars. Where can the son of a widow who lost her husband in the war go, except for Suvorov, cadet, Nakhimov, and then to a military school? But it will not work, so in the double bass? Tell us about the wide horizons and the sea of ​​possibilities, curious.
Your children apparently do not study in our schools, when they are only still in the outback, and even then not everywhere, they TEACH at school, and do not take money off for the possibility of obtaining a certificate of incomplete or complete secondary education in the future, and education has become essentially home-based, when you spend a significant part of your income on tutors. It is not in our country that low demand called secondary education, they are going to cut it down to incomplete secondary free, making full secondary paid.
It is also interesting to ask you when the settlers who later became Americans mastered the territory of the United States and when, for example, we mastered the South of Russia, the same Kuban? When is it part of the Siberian regions? What centuries do you remember? We, too, let me say not the indigenous population in Altai, the Urals, Siberia, but also immigrants, "rabble" as you write.

So it's good to yell, Mr. Oligarch. We are the descendants of those who have achieved a lot, and we are the descendants of those who, everything that was obtained by blood and sweat of their grandfathers, is simply PRO .. RAL, in exchange for bare thighs and a close-up cock on the screen, instead of bashful "wretched Soviet bed scenes under the covers" . We have achieved that we have no ENGINEERS, we have no WORKERS. I was brought here by a difficult last year in one of the distant regions, I could not find ... TURNER. I didn’t find it with the owners of the lathe, for which I had to remember what they taught at school in labor lessons.
Well, it was, I heard, they called fighters to the USSR, but they couldn’t speak Russian, let alone read and write, but he himself was already faced with the fact that my fighters, Russians, couldn’t really write, they were normal Russian speech did not perceive until he switched to the mat. And he was no longer surprised when he listened to how a fighter was talking to his mother on the phone, moreover, politely and lovingly, but in obscene language, because the degradation of the bottom had reached. How a “director to himself” quit in civilian life, it’s just to find and raise a worker, make him a man, it takes 2-3 years, but it’s not young people who work for me and with me, but already mature men, with families and children. In all the years, only one met, whom, after a month of training, and a month of practice, he could leave alone and not shake him as a nanny. It’s just that it’s hard to find a worker of average qualification who you can teach, he works not as a specialist, but like a trained monkey, full of superstitions, do you understand what the bottom is? from memory gives the tightening torques of eleven bolts, torque, power and revolutions in each gear, depending on the pressure setting and oil flow in the hydraulic system, etc., etc., horseradish will go to work without a helmet, gloves, goggles and safety shoes, yes, an insurance harness, and hell, you will make him work for a penny, because he knows his rights, the level of payment, bonuses and allowances, and no competition will force him to give them up, while ours bend for 12 hours, without guarantees, unformed and for pennies, outbidding one another. Ie summarizing - wild capitalism is possible where people run wild, and we have wild capitalism in the country.

And now, having descended from your Mars, fold the picture and tell me about the national idea, ideology that consolidates us, or about the leader who is the locomotive in our country. So I shared with you, and you tell us about the world around you. And then everything is gray around me and outside the family and inner circle, and a couple of colleagues in my new incarnation - even a wolf howl.

[Viktor Sergeev]

I have no words, everything is clear with you. You would be in 1937, there would be no price. If I have to go to die for a bag, a child, a wife, my Motherland, I have no national idea, I have a state of mind: Motherland is above all. But you continue to carry your nonsense.
I know the history of the United States and I know what this state consists of.

[Azimuth]

Quote: Victor Sergeev

I have no words, everything is clear with you. You would be in 1937, there would be no price. If I have to go to die for a bag, a child, a wife, my Motherland, I have no national idea, I have a state of mind: Motherland is above all. But you continue to carry your nonsense.
I know the history of the United States and I know what this state consists of.

And what, with such approaches and views, do we consist of, our state? Altai Territory and the Altai Republic Reservation, or Krasnodar Territory and the Adyghe Republic Reservation. And why is this not the USA for you? ...

So Motherland is your child, wife, father and mother, friend, comrade, colleague, neighbor ... Motherland is not a piece of land behind a control track.
As my life story has shown, the borders of the Motherland can change in the blink of an eye. Yesterday there was the USSR, the successor of the Russian Empire, today it is gone, but there is the Russian Federation, the former RSFSR and, for example, Ukraine. Ukraine is the birthplace of my ancestors, according to the passport we have all Russians here, but in fact the majority are Ukrainians by origin. And now what is my Motherland for me, who was born in the USSR?

Sorry, that I will violate the integrity of your views, but yes, I will really protect my family, in their person, my homeland from attack from outside. But let's dig deep, for example, take modern Ukraine. Donbas, me and many around me, did not touch, there is a small piece of the land of the Don Army, and everything else is imported serfs from the north of the Russian Empire, Russified tribes. On the other hand, the west of Ukraine, and the attempts, and the antics of the descendants of either the Pechenegs, or the devil knows who else, they don’t touch me either, I’m a Slav, my ancestors are Russians, and not Pechenegs, Mordovians, Tatars or Finno-Ugric tribes. The language of my grandparents is Slavic and far from the same Russian in which we communicate with you. Knowing the language of my didov, I can quickly and easily understand any Slav, and Pole, and Serb, and Czech, and Bulgarian, anyone who knows only Russian. My ancestors swore allegiance to Russia, but it doesn’t exist, the RSFSR is not Russia, the USSR was Russia, albeit in the tinsel of leftist ideology, but it was a country, the one that my ancestors swore allegiance to, for which they shed blood for generations, being warriors who agreed to be its guards borders, so as not to become serf slaves, masculine. Well, a couple of regional scoundrels will gather tomorrow in another Pushcha and divide the current Russian Federation / RSFSR, then what should I consider the Motherland, what a stub? And what kind of stub and its population to wet as enemies?
Well, now Armenians and Azerbaijanis fought, well, different peoples, but they also have different languages, but there was a common one, Russian. We also have a common language, Russian, but we are also all different peoples, we have different roots and origins, those were united by Russia, we are also united, sort of like Russia, well, this stub of Russia will also be killed. AND? Where will you look for your homeland? What would you consider homeland?

[Left shot]

Correction: I would not compare the Americans with cattle, rather the Americans are the gopnik of the planet.

[av58]

The article is wrong from the very beginning. The US ground forces are located overseas, and only a very limited contingent of the US ground forces in Europe, the US Marine Corps and the Army Air Force can be compared with the Russian ground forces. The way to Europe and Russia is blocked for others, unless the Americans suddenly start a massive transfer of troops to Europe, but this is already a completely different situation - the eve of a real war.

[Left shot]

What nonsense. And Vietnam was not separated from the United States by the ocean?

[av58]

You are either delusional or you have complete sclerosis. Remember, and if you can't, read the history of the Vietnam War, especially the stages of the introduction of the next contingents of American troops, and an explanation of the reasons for the increase in the contingent

[Left shot]

You wrote "The US Army is overseas." Don't speak your teeth, Vietnam is not overseas?
I know the history of the war; in Vietnam, half of the entire American infantry of all the huge USA was involved. And as a result, the pissed Americans threw themselves out of Saigon into the sea and still can't wash their dirty butts.

[Maxwrx]

These are all dreams. As long as we have nuclear weapons, no serious country will attack! But if you imagine:
NATO will attack all together, + I won’t be surprised by all sorts of Georgia, Ukraine, Japan, etc. Climb out of all the cracks! NATO has 3,5 million soldiers + under 1 billion people, the economy is 30 times larger, the military budget is under $1 trillion. It will be useless to defend against them, they will crush the economy / population. Only if the march is a throw to the English Channel. But now the borders are much to the east, there are no Warsaw Pact countries, tens of thousands of tanks and the population of the USSR, and most importantly ideas. Who will fight if more than half of the youth want to leave the country? And 40+ won’t fight much, health is not right. There will be no more total war to exterminate the population. For many, the question will be what to die for? Not for Putin and his cronies.

[Azimuth]

Nuclear weapons do not last forever. Yes, and progress does not stand still, in the near future there will be funds to destroy most of it, or rather carriers, on our territory. A nuclear warhead is nothing in itself without a means of delivery, guaranteed delivery to the target.
If it goes on like this, it remains only to contain the last method - sitting on a nuclear cellar and threatening suicide, simultaneously detonating all the charges on its territory, which will lead to the destruction of the planet as such.

[Maxwrx]

You overestimate nuclear weapons for the effectiveness of destroying the planet. 1500-2000 charges will not be enough to fully screw up even Russia. During the nuclear tests, a little less than 2000 charges were tested, and nothing, the planet is alive. It is clear that they did not bomb in cities and not all at once, but in general, not everything is so critical for life in general

[Ross xnumx]

In summary, it can be noted that the US ground forces are superior to the Russian ground forces in terms of the number of personnel and the number and variety of armored combat equipment.

Hitler reasoned the same way. I would not draw conclusions who will win: a polar bear or a lion. In nature, they can only meet in a zoo, just like American troops and Russian troops on joint maneuvers. I doubt that the foot of an American soldier will just step into the vastness of Russia ...

[Mikhail Zakharov]

It must be compared with the Chinese army. Only with China is a war possible without nuclear weapons. And if you consider that they have long squinted at our Siberia, then such a war is quite likely

[Smooth]

they have long squinted at our Siberia

What, what did they squint at? To Siberia? Nu-nu ...
Have you looked at a population density distribution map of China for a long time? And you look. Curious, I tell you, information. The Chinese government cannot lure people to live in the north of China with benefits, let alone send them to explore Siberia if something happens. The Chinese land is full of minerals: master it - I don’t want to. In terms of reserves of rare earth metals, they are generally the first in the world. If they wish, they will find oil not in the Russian Federation. The only thing they really need is Baikal with its huge reserves of fresh water. Here, yes - the Chinese have trouble with fresh water. Well, no one has canceled mountain glaciers in China. Mastering these resources is a matter of time for the Chinese. Yes, and it will be cheaper to negotiate with the Russian Federation than to fight.
I'm already keeping quiet about what a possible theater of operations in Siberia looks like for the Chinese troops. So, a war between China and the Russian Federation is much less likely than a war between China and the West for control of the Strait of Malacca (after all, 25% of the world's maritime trade). These are the same "Faberge", for which the West can grab China if necessary.

[orcinus]

An article from a teenage encyclopedia) for the amusement of citizens of the category "we win, we can repeat it, let's go, wash our boots, etc."

[EvilLion]

In this regard, the US Army looks preferable, since it received numerous wheeled "Strykers", which have a much higher level of protection for the crew and troops.

Bullshit. The Stryker does not even have a turret; its armament is an openly mounted 12.7 mm machine gun, or a 40 mm grenade launcher. There is no anti-splinter lining. Against the background of the BTR-82A, it is a big-eared "constipation" against, if not a gelding, then the modern "Grants".

At the same time, the United States has an overwhelming superiority in MRAP. The American infantry, when moving in a combat zone, is better protected precisely due to the massive use of such military equipment.

Cho, straight from the "Whirlwind" saves?

[Blackmokona]

Stryker looks at your statements in surprise.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: EvilLion

The Stryker "does not even have a turret, its armament is an openly mounted 12.7 mm machine gun, or a 40 mm grenade launcher.

Seriously?

[Tuzik]

And then there is aviation, uavs, satellites, navy ..

[Egor53]

Drugs and pederasty are legalized in the US Army. There are trade unions in the armies of NATO countries. They have agreed there at what time the soldiers can be woken up, and how much time is allotted for washing and drinking morning coffee.
When about 30 servicemen deserted from the destroyer Donald Cook, it was not that they were not convicted, but they also filed a lawsuit against the United States.
With such liberalism, armies become completely incapable of combat.
The military power of the army is determined, first of all, by the fighting spirit of the soldiers, and not only by the level of military equipment.
None of the countries of Western Europe, under any circumstances, will fight against Russia.
But we should not relax at the same time.

[Denis Radchenko_2]

The fighting spirit of the Russian army is determined by hazing and executions by humiliated privates of their officers. A feature of the Russian army is humiliation, insults and threats to subordinates from the authorities. And swearing is the main command language.

[Armen Sologyan]

And there is nothing to compare because the Russian Army is better in its Spirituality.

[Denis Radchenko_2]

History shows that the Moscow army, before unification with Ukraine, showed a very, very low combat capability. Bito was even a rabble of false Dmitry, who defeated the huge Moscow army and captured Moscow. Which he robbed for several years, while there was something to rob. And only after the unification with Ukraine, the Russian army began to be considered in Europe. And in the Red Army and in the SA, the Ukrainians were the most combat-ready backbone. Counting the size of the US Army, for some reason they forgot about the US allies, and this is NATO, and the Ukrainian army should not be discounted. Thanks to the events in the Crimea and Donbass, ZSU is a fairly convincing argument. But for the Russian Federation, it’s somehow difficult to say something about allies ...

[Gueuze Ulenspiegel]

Well, this is not a military secret. Army 250-280 thousand, cops and other punishers are 2 times more. + almost 2 lemma of all kinds of private security officers and watchmen from the former security officers and cops ...... A natural question arises who is more afraid of our government?

[Smooth]

Slogans are not here. You got the address wrong.

[Gueuze Ulenspiegel]

Don't advise me what to do. And I won't tell you where to go.

[Alex russia]

We are all equal with the states, but the Russian army can hardly compete with Turkey, where is it to the United States and China, it's time to slightly reduce the ardor and desire for gigantomania, no matter how we break the navel, Russia is not the USSR, we need to really look at things!

[Imperial Technocrat]

In recent years, the combat capabilities of the armies of the two countries have significantly expanded

No, only Russian ones have expanded significantly. American power has declined relatively

Paradoxically, the T-72 tanks remain the most modern combat vehicles in the Russian army.

Rave. In fact, back in 2019, the first batches of T-90M went to the troops. Secondly, for some reason you take into account the Americans 2 pieces of trial operation of the latest version of the Abrams, and our T-30 Armats, which are in trial operation, do not

In this regard, the US Army looks preferable, since it received numerous wheeled "Strykers", which have a much higher level of protection for the crew and troops

Again a lie. Protection on the BTR-82А - better

and the only samples of domestic MRAPs produced in commercial quantities are, apparently, the Typhoon-K and Typhoon-U modifications (several hundred machines were produced).

But Typhoon-K is radically more protected than its American counterpart

In artillery terms, the Russian ground forces look much more diverse, this can hardly be attributed to the advantages

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Just to tears. This is different (TM)

In general - just another crazy writings, as often happens on this site. In terms of ground forces, the Russian Federation is significantly superior to America. But for a pink poultry house and other scum with a traumatized psyche, food is the very thing

[Forever so]

These are the abrams that pierce in the ass from the DShK and for which there are not enough bridges in terms of weight in geyrops ??)) In general, it is unaesthetic to compare the weapons of the Russian ARMY and the PURPOSE Units, which are essentially the American troops. The entire US military doctrine is an over-the-horizon blow, because in person the brave Yankees do not have enough diapers. From this we must proceed, if there is something to be responsible for the HORIZON, then the armies are equal, if you sit in the trenches again and wait until the aircraft and missiles are mixed with shit, then the Americans are stronger.

[NIKOLAY Sokolov]

What I want to note. For a long time there has been no secret in the quantitative and even in the qualitative composition of the armed forces. Well, we have 2800 tanks in service, and another 10000 - can be melted down on occasion and if there is processing capacity. Out of 2800, at best, a quarter will come out of hangars and parks .... if not less - it's all not interesting. But tell me, how quickly can we in our country establish, not even production, mass repair and restoration of armored vehicles and other weapons, at what capacities, with what workers and engineers ???? In the USSR, approximately in 41, 2200 units of armored vehicles were produced, and in 42 -9000 .... What can modern Russia produce on its own ???? What kind of human reserves do we have, preferably minimally trained???
So the army in modern warfare is 15-20% of success, the rest is all rear, but in what state is it ??? for today. This is a question from the questions.

[TatarinSSSR]

And in order to "produce" new combat units of equipment during a modern full-scale war and repair it, production areas, factories, and workshops are needed. In the Second World War, the vast distances and depth of the territory of the USSR made it possible to do this far from the front and Wehrmacht bombers. Modern weapons at a distance (Ballistic and cruise missiles, air strikes, including stealth technologies that increase their chance of penetrating deep into the territory) spit from a big mountain, and most of the large-scale military factories will be destroyed in the very first two weeks of hostilities throughout the interior of the country. Not to mention nuclear strikes on industrial centers.

[svp67]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

and most of the large-scale military factories will be destroyed in the first two weeks of hostilities throughout the depth of the country.

Already, how they "rolled" Germany, during WWII, into a thin, thin pancake, destroying all industry on its surface, and she take it and go underground, where it worked quite successfully until the very end of the war.
Even nuclear weapons do not give a 100% guarantee of the destruction of an object covered with thick rocky soil

[TatarinSSSR]

And do we have many such underground facilities covered with rocky soil, where it is possible to consistently produce and repair the same armored vehicles? And by the way, how will she get there on her own and from there to the front? Most of the losses of new and restored German armored vehicles at the end of the war were just destroyed during its transportation by railway from factories to the front - under the bombs of the allies and Soviet aces, not to mention saboteurs. And where is Hitler's Germany now? Saved her three plants under the rocks? Railway supply lines, bridges, ports, etc. - one of the priority targets of any enemy. And as for production - in a modern war, no one will give months and years to launch and transfer production capacities to military channels. All the coordinates of such centers in Russia are in the intelligence of the United States and NATO countries. And they will be priority targets. For more than half a century, delivery vehicles for warheads have gone a long way. The vast distances that saved the USSR from German bombs in the depths of the country are now no obstacle to cruise and ballistic missiles, strategic aviation, especially from stealth systems. Do you think in vain US submarines with hundreds of cruise missiles are on duty off our coasts along the entire perimeter of the country? I think you understand everything.

[Smooth]

Mneee ... Hmm ... Where are the firewood from, I'm embarrassed to ask? That is, information on the number from what sources? And where did the army aviation go? She, like, is included in the Aerospace Forces / Air Force and will we not take it into account? Okay, so be it ... And where are the special troops? In Karaganda? Air defense there? And what is the difference in the structure of the ground forces between the Russian Federation and the United States? Tasks? Basing? Etc. and so on.
Do not be offended, dear Author, but what you wrote is not a comparison of armies. This is a bit of a figure. The comparison involves, among other things, an analysis of combat capabilities. And here ... I have a boyfriend of 13 years old such review articles from the series "a piece about nothing" is already well composed.

[Inspector]

The US Marine Corps and NATO allies flew to the moon.

[TatarinSSSR]

Counting what is in storage is such a thing. If "tomorrow is a war", then when the male population is mobilized from a civilian, 70% of the fighters will have to re-train in the operation and combat use of this equipment taken from storage warehouses. Not to mention the, let's say, dubious combat-ready condition of the armored vehicles and artillery stored most often in the field. Most of it requires repair, refurbishment and modernization.

[madsnail1242]

It would be appropriate to compare the budget of Russia and the United States: the American one is 10 times larger than the Russian one, but accounts for 3.4% (732 billion dollars) of GDP, while the Russian one is 3.9% (65 billion dollars). Here is the answer to any question regarding the defense capability and economic potential of the two countries - everything else is secondary! Putin's juggling with these two figures is ridiculous and ridiculous! And the American budget for health care is 15.7% of GDP, i.e. 4,6 times more than the military finally puts everything in its place ...

[bar]

What is the point of directly comparing land forces located on different continents? Our T-72s are unlikely to make it to America, and all 2300 are also unlikely to make it to our borders.

[Inspector]

Why were the heavy airfields restored in Priblatika ???

[bar]

Quote: Inspector

Why were the heavy airfields restored in Priblatika ???

It was not me who restored it, so I don't know. But it will take a long time to carry 70t "Abrams" by airplanes

[Veter_73_2017]

Why compare something that cannot be. All our "elite" keeps their savings in their banks, in foreign currency. Has real estate in their countries. And they will destroy all this? Absurd. In all state corporations, their representatives sit on the board of directors, why fight when foreign bourgeois already have everything that can be obtained from Russia without a war. We cannot cover our borders, there are mannequins on the towers (the words of A. Mikhailov, after a vacation spent in the small Motherland-ZabVO), also our military-industrial complex is dilapidated, we don’t have microelectronics, what kind of base can we talk about?

[Inspector]

The Russian Federation cannot fight with the United States. Only with all of NATO at once. Plus unaccounted satellites. It's always been like this. You need to know history. So who are these calculations intended for?

[squid]

Nothing is said about drones, the quantity and quality of guided missiles (ATMs), aircraft control systems, space reconnaissance and target designation systems - factors that directly affect the combat effectiveness of ground forces. I think that in the end, with comparable numbers, the army of potential partners is an order of magnitude stronger. And in the event of a possible clash, ours will play the role of Armenian forces in the Karabakh conflict.