Mi-28NM and Ka-52M as the future of army aviation

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The first serial helicopter Mi-28NM, 2019

To date, the main attack helicopters of the army aviation VKS steel Mi-28N and Ka-52 - the troops already have more than 220 machines of two types, and construction continues. In parallel with the production, the development of new modifications with increased characteristics is carried out. One updated helicopter has already gone into production, and the other will reach production in the near future.

Upgraded "hunter"


In July 2016, the first flight of an experimental Mi-28NM helicopter, an improved version of the serial Mi-28N "Night Hunter", took place. Over the next few years, the helicopter underwent comprehensive tests, which confirmed the high results of modernization. At the beginning of 2019, the Mi-28NM showed its potential in a real conflict - the machine worked in Syria. All characteristics were confirmed, and the helicopter received a recommendation for adoption.



The first contract for the production of the Mi-28NM was signed at the end of 2017. Then it was about an installation batch of equipment. The first helicopter of this order took to the skies in the spring of 2019 and was soon followed by the second. In June, the equipment was handed over to the customer. Soon, the management of Russian Helicopters clarified that it was the entire pilot batch.


At the end of June last year, during the Army-2019 forum, a contract for full-scale serial production was issued. The Ministry of Defense has ordered 98 Mi-28NM helicopters with delivery of the first in 2020. The first batch, according to the contractor, will include six aircraft. The last helicopters will go to the troops in 2027.

The number of helicopters built to date is unclear. It was reported about the transfer of two machines of the pilot batch; news no other helicopters have been reported yet. However, if plans have not changed, then over the next few months, army aviation will receive six new Mi-28NM.

Main advantages


The Mi-28NM is a deep modernization of the previous "N" version helicopter. Due to the processing of some units and the replacement of part of the equipment, an increase in tactical, technical and combat characteristics is provided. In addition, there are innovations of an ergonomic and other nature.

Engines of a new modification with increased power are used. The volume of fuel tanks has been increased. A new design of the rotor blades with increased survivability has been applied. The blade remains operational even after being hit by a 30 mm projectile. Some innovations in terms of survivability have also been applied to the airframe design.


The radio-electronic complex has been improved, and some of its changes have affected the appearance of the helicopter. So, the N025 over-sleeve radar became standard. The composition of the antennas has changed, as a result of which the nose of the fuselage has a different shape. A new weapons control system has been introduced, which ensures the use of modern and advanced models. Helicopter controls are now available in both cockpits, which allows the navigator-operator to also fly. An onboard defense system has been installed to protect against anti-aircraft and aircraft missiles.

The Mi-28NM retains compatibility with all weapons for its predecessors. Also, the reserve has been provided for the further expansion of the range of weapons. So, a light multipurpose guided missile LMUR has already been developed for work on ground and air targets. The new composition of the avionics will allow in the future to use promising missiles with laser or radar guidance.

Improved "alligator"


Not so long ago, work began on the modernization of the Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter. The Ka-52M project has so far passed only the early stages and is not yet ready for the production and dispatch of equipment to the troops. Nevertheless, important results have been obtained to date.


Probably an experienced Ka-52M - photo from the press release of the Ministry of Industry and Trade

Despite the current status of work, the Ministry of Defense already has ambitious plans for the Ka-52M. Last year it was reported that a contract for 2020 production vehicles of this type would be signed in 114. At the same time, the department understood and took into account that the first batches would be produced only in a few years.

In early June 2020, the National Center for Helicopter Engineering named after Mil and Kamov ordered the Progress plant to build and test two experimental Ka-52Ms. The cost of the work is over 153 million rubles. The next news came in early August. The first of the experimental helicopters took off for the first time at the Progress airfield. Refinement and factory testing of the two vehicles will continue until the end of the year.

By early 2021, two Ka-52M helicopters will be submitted for preliminary flight tests, after which they will undergo state tests. All these activities should be completed no later than September 2022. If the helicopter confirms its characteristics, then there will be a recommendation for adoption and the launch of serial production will take place. A major contract should be signed by then.

Best solutions


It was reported that the development of the Ka-52M used the experience of operating such equipment in our country and abroad. Also applied are the solutions borrowed from the existing modifications of the "Alligator". The result was an improvement in flight and operational characteristics, an increase in combat qualities, etc.


Serial Ka-52

The Ka-52M receives an updated radar complex with AFAR and a modern optoelectronic complex. Improved navigation, communication, etc. The interior of the cab has been changed to improve ergonomics and improve the convenience of working at any time of the day. Various units have been improved, including the carrying system, which allows the helicopter to operate in colder climates.

At the request of the Ministry of Defense, weapons control facilities have been modified. Unification of the Ka-52M ammunition with the serial Mi-28NM was ensured. This simplifies the simultaneous operation of two helicopters, and also increases the firing range at various targets. The artillery mount has also been improved. The development of a new guided missile "Product 305" is mentioned.

Helicopter fleet prospects


To date, the VKS has created a fairly large fleet of modern attack helicopters. There are more than 120 Ka-52 helicopters and approx. 100 Mi-28N and Mi-28UB. The production of equipment continues and the number of vehicles will increase by the end of the year. Also in operation is approx. 160 new and modernized Mi-24/35 helicopters.

Last year, the Mi-28NM helicopter went into production and now has to replace the older Mi-28N / UB in production. 98 of these helicopters have been ordered for delivery in 2020-27. Thus, by the end of the decade, the Aerospace Forces will have at their disposal almost two hundred helicopters of the Mi-28 family, half of which are built according to the newest project and have improved characteristics.


The Ka-52M will remain in testing until 2022, and only after that the series will start. Apparently, until that time the basic Ka-52 will remain in production, after which it will be replaced by the "M" version. The expected order for 114 helicopters will bring the total number of Alligators to 230-240 units. However, the timing of the formation of such a park is still unknown.

Thus, the army aviation of the Aerospace Forces has already undergone significant modernization, and its renewal continues. There are plans for 212 new helicopters, the appearance of which will allow replacing the equipment of outdated types, as well as increasing the quantitative and qualitative indicators of the helicopter fleet.

However, so far we are only talking about matters in the distant future. Only one of the two modernized helicopters has been brought to mass production, and the construction process of more than two hundred vehicles will stretch almost until the early thirties. But work on two models of technology continues and gives the desired results - and with them, and reason for optimism.
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  1. +6
    27 August 2020 05: 37
    The main thing is to create weapons entirely from domestic components! Ukraine is a bitter lesson, and to be honest, Belarus is alarming!
    1. -9
      27 August 2020 07: 12
      Oh, this disagreement, and Mi and Ka are all in one firm "Russian Helicopters", maybe someday there will be a single line of light-medium-heavy or generally universal helicopter.
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        +8
        27 August 2020 21: 07
        Quote: Civil
        or generally a versatile helicopter.

        Imagine an all-purpose car, passenger-bus-cargo. I can not. request
      2. +1
        27 August 2020 21: 18
        Quote: Civil
        Oh, this inconsistency, and Mi and Ka are all in one firm "Russian Helicopters"

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        This is NOT a FIRM! This is a HOLDING (which, by definition, can include a variety of firms).
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        Quote: Civil
        maybe someday there will be a single line of light-medium-heavy or generally universal helicopter.

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        NEVER!!!
        Firstly, because everything universal is a priori WORSE than specialized! And secondly, because it is simply impossible to create at the same time "light-medium-heavy" - it's just NONSENSE !!! Although we came closest to the creation of a universal machine: the Mi-8 !!! And this can be argued with a certain stretch!
    2. +11
      27 August 2020 11: 14
      Quote: ASAD
      The main thing is to create weapons entirely from domestic components! Ukraine is a bitter lesson, and to be honest, Belarus is alarming!

      The main thing is that in addition to helicopters, there should be weapons for them. The missiles have to be guided along the beam until they are hit, the American counterparts, working on the principle of "captured the target, fired, hid behind the hill" and no
  2. -2
    27 August 2020 05: 42
    In fact, THREE different combat helicopters are in service, isn't it too much? Isn't it time to phase out the Mi-24 / Mi-35?
    1. +13
      27 August 2020 06: 07
      in my humble opinion, the mi-24v / p and its modernization mi-35m / p will not leave the scene due to the lack of a well-functioning maintenance and repair system for the Mi-28n / nm and Ka-52. on the territory of the country there are a large number of ARZ repairing both 24-ok and their individual units (for example, the main gearbox and tail transmission). The 28th and 52nd do not have such a well-functioning MRO system, maintenance and repair of individual units (the same transmission) is still possible only at manufacturing plants. In addition, the overhaul resources of 24ok due to long-term operation are higher than those of the 28th and 52nd.
      You are right that the decommissioning of the Mi-24 under these conditions can only be phased and time-consuming.
    2. +15
      27 August 2020 08: 52
      Quote: svp67
      Isn't it time to phase out the Mi-24 / Mi-35?
      Why should we give up the Mi-35M? Normal multipurpose vehicle with a cargo compartment and the ability to take on board troops or evacuate the wounded. Neither "Night Hunter" nor "Alligator" have such opportunities.
      1. -4
        27 August 2020 09: 00
        Quote: Herrr
        Why should we give up the Mi-35M?

        Are you proposing to abandon the Mi-28 or Ka-52? You understand that the simultaneous operation of three combat machines, excellent in design, with very similar characteristics, is not in any way.
        And Mi24 / 35 is the oldest of them. And it would be time to take the Ka-60/62 for equipping the aerospace forces.
        1. +7
          27 August 2020 09: 29
          Quote: svp67
          And it would be time to take the Ka-60/62 to equip the videoconferencing system.
          So far, "Kasatochka" is damp. When it flies in for real, then it will be possible to talk about adopting it into service.
          Quote: svp67
          Are you proposing to abandon the Mi-28 or Ka-52?
          I must admit that I never had such stupidity in my head. lol It's just that "three different combat vehicles" - it's not God knows how many. Each of them has its own individual set of fighting qualities and, accordingly, its own specific niche on the battlefield.
          1. +2
            27 August 2020 14: 48
            In fact, 28 and 52 differ in that 52 LTH is almost like for a sports fly, for the fleet it is the most, to sit in a storm. And after the unification of weapons and equipment for two pilots, putting the same avionics on them is not a problem, but why would they need two then? The 52nd way to the fleet, there are 4 of them, but the bear in production and management is simpler, it can be done in bulk.
            1. +2
              27 August 2020 19: 35
              Quote: English tarantass
              52m way to the fleet, there they need 4 pieces
              Well, that's just now. If you have found money for Rogov and Moskalenko instead of Mistrals, then the hour is not far off when Katrans will be needed in much larger quantities. smile And after that it will be possible to trade them with foreign countries much more efficiently. These [coaxial] helicopters have a very good prospect in terms of entering new markets.
              1. 0
                28 August 2020 08: 34
                Well, shipbuilding in our country is like that, let them first launch it, and then we'll see. And I don’t know about the sale, I don’t know, no one else has adopted this type of verta, and those who don’t make their own may be afraid of the lack of infrastructure and those of the composition for such marmosets
        2. -7
          27 August 2020 10: 38
          Are you proposing to abandon the Mi-28 or Ka-52?


          I would say to the Kamovites "Thank you, good car, but you are superfluous in the videoconferencing." Moreover, this was clear back in the 90s. Why Arsenyevsky "Progress" was transferred from the Mi-24 to the Ka is not clear at all. What the mixed shelves and OVE will be formed from is also a question. The country was forgotten for carving up factories and orders.
          1. +2
            27 August 2020 14: 08
            The helicopter pilots with whom I spoke, goodbye happily said to mi 28
            1. 0
              28 August 2020 00: 28
              Quote: Nehist
              The helicopter pilots with whom I spoke, goodbye happily said to mi 28

              But they will never say this to the Mi-24, Mi-8 (especially MT), Mi-6! Yes, even for the Mi-2 (by the way, I love him very much)! The Mi-26 is just watching!
  3. +2
    27 August 2020 05: 45
    The Mi 35p, that is, the Mi 24, is a redesigned very good helicopter, I like it even more for its versatility than the Mi 28.
    1. +3
      27 August 2020 14: 49
      Is it a station wagon at 28? He's a drummer, uncle, don't be confused
  4. -1
    27 August 2020 06: 19
    The composition of the fleet of combat helicopters is just some kind of "game"!
    With us, no one still counts money: the cost of development, serial products, logistics, personnel training. Planning and combat use. THREE (!) Families of machines live and develop their own lives! Just "tin"!
    No other army in the world can afford such a "zoo" of similar machines. An acceptable option for the transitional period of rearmament: one model - the old, "outgoing", and one model - the new, coming to replace.
    Just do not nod at the United States: there "Cobras" are only in the Marine Corps (another type of aircraft), and the total budget is much higher.
    (note: youth slang was used to exclude profanity)
    1. +4
      27 August 2020 06: 54
      You probably don't take into account that all three cars have a lot of common components. Moreover, a similar engine is used on the Mi-8 line and on the Ka-27,29,31. The Mi-35 and Mi-28 have the same steering column and much more in common.
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      2. +2
        27 August 2020 08: 50
        The Mi28 and Ka52 only in the NM and M series lead to something uniform in terms of avionics and weapons.
    2. +3
      27 August 2020 08: 30
      The composition of the fleet of combat helicopters is just some kind of "game"!

      the game is like screaming. Especially when you consider that the same USA has Littlebird, Viper and Apache in combat formation. And that's not counting the fact that the Kiowas were only written off for a couple of years after 50 years of operation. And as for military transport - so the variety is 2 times more than ours
      "Cobras" only in the Marine Corps (other type of aircraft)

      what a clumsy excuse. As if the ILC is not the US Armed Forces. I understand when it comes to the National Guard, but to shirk about the exclusivity of the Marines .... No. and the fact that the ILC were armed with M1 Abrams is like what then - an accident?
      1. +2
        27 August 2020 09: 32
        Quote: Ka-52
        what a clumsy excuse. As if the ILC is not the US Armed Forces. I understand when it comes to the National Guard, but to shirk about the exclusivity of the Marines ....

        So the KMP would be happy to buy the Apache. They even tested Sea Apache and found it to be good. But, as always, the traditional problem of the ILC has surfaced - there is no money. On "Osprey" and EFV - there is, but on "Apache" - no. smile
        So Citizens Marines listen to your "Valenki" order Cobras and Huey again. smile
        Quote: Ka-52
        and the fact that the ILC were armed with M1 Abrams is like what then - an accident?

        The KMP even showed creativity in the MBT issue - they bought the Abrams, but they did not bother with the upgrades. As a result, the “Abrams” of the army team and the “Abrams” of the KMP are two big differences.

        But seriously, the ILC has one problem in the matter of ordering military equipment that the army does not have - the new equipment must fit into existing ships and boats. And deviation from this rule is very expensive - for example, replacing the M60 with "Abrams" actually reduced the shock capabilities of the first echelon. Because the M60 could still be parachuted on medium-sized LCM-8 spacecraft, and the Abrams - only on heavy LCU-1610 or LCAC, of ​​which only 2-4 pieces fit into the docking camera. The KMP even ordered the development of a new medium DKA "for the Abrams" - just before the reform with the withdrawal of its tanks. smile
      2. +4
        27 August 2020 10: 16
        In general, the Americans have always had a helicopter fleet many times larger than the Soviet one .... But the main bundle of MH-60 (Land and Sea) with Apache or Viper, respectively. But there are many more Apaches. And there is Iowa-TsU, which in the USSR and the Russian Federation does not exist in principle. We have only in special transport aircraft - the Ka27 / 29, Mi-8/17/14 and in the combat Mi-24/35/28 and Ka 52, the Mi-38 looms somewhere else. With a total, much more modest number.
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        3. -1
          28 August 2020 12: 38
          Unfortunately, the Internet inaccessibility gives rise to the insolence of the couch warriors on the forum.

          Yes unfortunately. Otherwise, people like you would hit on the horns a couple of times and next time you would think ten times before writing to someone in a personal
    3. 0
      27 August 2020 08: 46
      No, what's wrong with that?
      Get into the war, for example, how many types of fighters were produced simultaneously (for example, if you take the beginning of 1944)? And they won.
      1. 0
        27 August 2020 09: 17
        Despite certain problems with the operation of three types simultaneously (four, if we count "pure" 24-ki), there are also advantages associated with the fact that various tasks solved by attack helicopters do not always require the use of airborne radars or powerful OPS. for example, for escorting transport convoys, mi24v / n are quite suitable (in the ranks of about 100 (military balance 2020) or 35th.Also given the different level of threats from different directions, new types are delivered mainly to the western direction. and relatively few machines (28th and 52nd) to solve problems where their capabilities will be limitedly involved, and to plan their use directly in "tense" areas, where their BREO will be most effectively used.
        1. +4
          27 August 2020 10: 19
          28 and 52 are already more than 24 and 35x ..... no one says they are bad. You can capitalize on them, and buy new 28 and 52 with new ones. Although, for good reason, you need to choose one and rivet it at all factories.
          1. +1
            27 August 2020 11: 10
            fair point, plus.
            the article gives the approximate number of deployed attack helicopters, and the share of new machines is indeed greater.
            also, a certain amount of mi-24v / p are in storage, and, if necessary, can theoretically be put into operation after de-mothballing and (possibly) modernization to strengthen the grouping or replace lost vehicles. I suppose that, taking into account 24-ok storage, their total number, if not more than the number of new-built cars, is a comparable number
            1. +2
              27 August 2020 11: 45
              Now there are alternative versions of the Mi35 .... the modernized Mi24P are two versions from different plants. With traditional wing and chassis
            2. +3
              28 August 2020 01: 04
              Quote: Nikolai R-PM
              fair point, plus.
              the article gives the approximate number of deployed attack helicopters, and the share of new machines is indeed greater.
              also, a certain amount of mi-24v / p are in storage, and, if necessary, can theoretically be put into operation after de-mothballing and (possibly) modernization to strengthen the grouping or replace lost vehicles. I suppose that, taking into account 24-ok storage, their total number, if not more than the number of new-built cars, is a comparable number
              Let me just say. When they took us out of the YUGV and put us on the jump airfield and put us in tents. We weren't whining! There were flights and life went on. But when, six months later, in October, it was necessary to relocate the regiment to an unfinished airfield, a problem arose, when launching, the PPS worked on 3 sides! And Rita shouted over the air: "BOARD ... FIRE!" That was scary! It turned out that the "voles" gnawed at the insulation on the wiring! And this is in six months! And if it has been in "storage" for more than 10 years? So there is only CWR! And if possible!
              1. +1
                28 August 2020 06: 32
                thanks, I will take the information into service) I looked for photos of the turntables in storage after reading your comment. it looks like you are right about the overhaul lottery. there were eights in the pictures, so there are stabilizers exactly for replacement, and what about rubber goods and wiring is unknown .... perhaps there is some kind of standard for the number of equipment input from storage? aircrafts that are not economically feasible to restore become donors?
          2. -1
            27 August 2020 15: 05
            Quote: Zaurbek
            28 and 52 are already more than 24 and 35x ..... no one says they are bad. You can capitalize on them, and buy new 28 and 52 with new ones. Although, for good reason, you need to choose one and rivet it at all factories.


            Initially, they took both helicopters to support both design bureaus, both design schools. And now it is too late to switch to the production of one helicopter. Rebuilding the plant to produce the Mi-28 after the Ka-52 is like starting all over again - logistics, equipment, training. It is easier to produce helicopters and spread them geographically - conventionally Mi-28 in the west, Ka-52 in the east, as with tanks, T-80 in the north, T-72/90 in the south.
            1. +2
              27 August 2020 17: 55
              Mi plains. Ka sea and mountains. Maximum unification of weapons and equipment. Plus export.
          3. +1
            27 August 2020 17: 52
            And stop making a drummer out of the Mi 8 by weighing it with tons of weapons.
    4. +6
      27 August 2020 11: 02
      Quote: infantryman2020
      The composition of the fleet of combat helicopters is just some kind of "game"!
      With us, no one still counts money: the cost of development, serial products, logistics, personnel training. Planning and combat use. THREE (!) Families of machines live and develop their own lives! Just "tin"!

      In fact, there were only two types of new combat helicopters - the Mi-28 and the Ka-52. But the furniture maker decided to play it safe and squeezed an order for the "repatriate" - the export Mi-35, modified to meet the requirements of the Ministry of Defense.
      And as a result, he turned out to be right - because the only new combat-ready helicopters until 2015 (and according to other sources - until 2016) were the Mi-35. And the Ka-52 and Mi-28 had to be refined after the purchase, solving problems with engines stalling when the NAR was launched at low speeds, and problems with guided missiles stubbornly unwilling to hit the target. Moreover, it should be solved in two stages: first in Torzhok, and then in combat units.
      1. +1
        27 August 2020 15: 10
        Mi 35 is the same crocodile in 24P version !!! Why fence a garden? 35 is an export version from the times of the USSR
        1. 0
          27 August 2020 17: 21
          Quote: Nehist
          Mi 35 is the same crocodile in 24P version !!! Why fence a garden? 35 is an export version from the times of the USSR

          The Mi-35 is not exactly the Mi-24. This is a "repatriate" on the basis of a foreign order: a new chassis, new fenders with 4 suspension nodes, etc.
          1. 0
            27 August 2020 17: 28
            In general, they did it for Africa, I read about him in the Foreign Military Review magazine in the year 89. At one time, he closely communicated with the colonel as a helicopter pilot. They drank my tea ... I learned a lot of new things that will not be shown at parades and instructions are not provided ... And they should not fly like that, but they flew ...
      2. 0
        27 August 2020 15: 22
        Mi35 is a ready-made version, a safety one at the time of launching Mi28 and Kamov ... it was already exported by that time and it was in serial production
        1. 0
          27 August 2020 15: 48
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Mi35 is a ready-made version, a safety one at the time of launching Mi28 and Kamov ... it was already exported by that time and it was in serial production

          This is exactly what I wrote about: they took a serial export car, modified it to meet the requirements of the Ministry of Defense - and received a reliable helicopter in a short time. "A tit in the hands" is a workhorse for a while, while the "cranes" are brought to mind.
          The same happened with the Su-30, Project 11356, Project 636.3.
    5. -1
      27 August 2020 21: 08
      Quote: infantryman2020
      No other army in the world can afford such a "zoo" of similar machines. ...... Just don't nod at the USA: there "Cobras" only in the marines (another type of aircraft), and the total budget is higher by an order of magnitude.

      ========
      And you can "nod" to China ??? What then to say about him? There in general: oo-oo-oo-oo-oo !!! what "Different types" and "herbs" .....
      By the way - the Bundeswehr has the same story (no, of course there is only one drummer - Eurocopter "Tiger", but multipurpose - as many as nine (!!!) different types (not counting their modifications) and different countries and manufacturers!).
      We will simply not talk about other countries because there - the number of helicopters in service is measured in hundreds (as in the USA, Russia and China), but only tens !!! But at the same time a wide variety of designs and manufacturers!
      PS By the way, I do not advise you to be confused: Mi-24/35, this is NOT an attack helicopter, but a multi-purpose one !!! We have only 3 types of them: Mi-8/17, Mi-24/35 and Ka-27/29. There is also not such a variety of transport workers: in addition to the same Mi-8 and Mi-26, there are 2 light (they are also often positioned as multipurpose) Ka-226 and Ansat-U ..... That's actually all! Not so "different type" in comparison with other countries ..... request
  5. +2
    27 August 2020 09: 43
    One cannot but rejoice at the deep modernization of the models in service and developed on the basis of combat experience and analysis of the nature of the conduct of hostilities ... and so in the review there are two good combat vehicles with their own characteristics and niches of use ...
    1. -3
      27 August 2020 10: 53
      The text, just like from a speaker on the square, during the May Day demonstration of workers. I was especially touched by your 88.
      1. 0
        27 August 2020 12: 20
        You are not looking there)) ... not everything around the world is behind the scenes))) ... this is just the year of the beginning of the main professional activity ... a chevron with a white / silver wolf happened to be worn in the first hour ... expensive as a memory
  6. 0
    27 August 2020 10: 24
    The photo is not the Ka-52M. Photos at least 2,5 years old
  7. +1
    27 August 2020 10: 42
    Advice please.
    It is claimed that
    "Ka-52M receives an updated radar system with AFAR".
    Moreover, the updated car should go for testing in the 22nd year.
    And what about AFAR in general at the moment?
    Is AFAR already operated in the VKS?
  8. BAI
    +4
    27 August 2020 11: 28
    The first serial helicopter Mi-28NM, 2019

    The first time I saw the Mi-28 was in 1989 in Tushino. And it has been developed since 1982. Almost 40 years have passed and now the "newest" helicopter in the army (I don't even want to talk about the Mi-8). Constant endless upgrades (as with the Armata), just not to supply the troops. I have the impression that the military-industrial complex lives well on development projects that do not give results, and is completely not interested in the supply of new equipment to the troops.
    1. 0
      27 August 2020 15: 11
      Quote: BAI
      The first serial helicopter Mi-28NM, 2019

      The first time I saw the Mi-28 was in 1989 in Tushino. And it has been developed since 1982. Almost 40 years have passed and now the "newest" helicopter in the army (I don't even want to talk about the Mi-8). Constant endless upgrades (as with the Armata), just not to supply the troops. I have the impression that the military-industrial complex lives well on development projects that do not give results, and is completely not interested in the supply of new equipment to the troops.


      So for 10-15 years they did not produce anything at all, the industry has nothing to do with it, should they do helicopters at their own expense?

      The Mi-28N has been produced since 2006, and the Mi-28NM is its deep modernization, in fact a new helicopter.

      And you probably saw the Mi-28A.
    2. -2
      27 August 2020 16: 34
      The impression is correct, this is generally a "world trend". The allocated X money for R&D + production, which according to the plan is divided conditionally as 0,5 / 0,5 for both, is spent in the end as 0,7-0,8 / 0,3-0,2. The contractor sadly informs the customer that "more gold is needed" (but this is not their fault, no: they can always justify each of the spent, and then inflation, crisis, sanctions, quarantine, New Year's holidays ...). Or adjust the order. And, since "there is no money, but ...", the order decreases. And in the end, where it was planned to 100, we get some 50 pieces, and even then with transfers to + infinity of terms (with the possibility of additional cuts along the way).
      In this regard, the history of the F-22 looks very indicative: of the 382 planned, 187 (49%) aircraft were received. From 1986 to 2011 (this is with development) - 7,5 pieces per year. And for a horse price. In the modern world, rearming at such a speed is probably easier not to even start. That would have stopped at a dozen pre-production in the late 90s - how much money would you save!
      And the F-15/16/18 fly and laugh.
  9. 0
    27 August 2020 21: 46
    There will be no disagreement if the Kamovtsy are engaged in the fleet (their KA 27, 29 are ancient as mammoths), and the Milevtsy are VKS. Neither one nor the other has experience in their field. Kamovtsam would quickly bring to mind Lamprey. Well, Ka 52 katran on UDC asks. And it is more convenient for the Navy, even from the shore, even from the corvette ... miles for the landings. Mi 24 once proved its high standards. Mi 28 nm is its sequel. Something like this. It is not entirely correct to assemble the Ka 52 and Mi 28 shelves.
  10. +1
    27 August 2020 22: 47
    What about upgrading old ones?
    Not a word
  11. 0
    2 September 2020 17: 02
    One thing is embarrassing if we built Yaki and La during the war at such a pace ... Oh, it would not be sweet for us. 98 helicopters in 7 years.
  12. 0
    8 September 2020 12: 34
    Various aggregates have been improved, including the carrying system,

    What does it mean?!
  13. -1
    13 November 2020 14: 30
    Nice, calm article. Thanks to the author!
    As always, after reading the article itself, I began to read the comments. And at first I was even scared - no one criticizes anything! What happened, I think.
    But then the guys pulled themselves up, and began to explain that everything is wrong with this issue in Russia, everything is wrong!