Bob Denard: “The King of the Mercenaries” and “The Nightmare of the Presidents”


Shot from the movie Mr. Bob (2011), Clovis Cornillac as Denard


From the article "Soldiers of Fortune" and "Wild Geese" we remember that, after returning to Paris from Congo, Robert Denard began working on the creation of a company for recruiting mercenaries, called “Soldier of Fortune”. But in the office of his office, Denaru was bored, and therefore he himself continued to fight. At the same time, he never hid behind the backs of his fighters, and therefore, as he recalled, during his life “was wounded 5 times, not counting scratches.”

Bob Denard: “The King of the Mercenaries” and “The Nightmare of the Presidents”

At some point, Denard's reputation reached such heights that in force majeure situations, when he took under his guard some applicant or an already established dictator, they were ready to pay him up to 20 thousand dollars per hour. To the journalist of Izvestia, G. Zotov, who was interested in the prices of his services, Denard said with a grin:

“There is one price on Komor, in Moscow it will cost more ... Do you have any special plan for a coup?” If there is, let's discuss, maybe I will like it and I will give you a discount ... If someone orders three coups in bulk, it will be cheaper. ”

(It seems that Denar simply “besieged” the amateur who asked the inappropriate question with such an answer.)

But you don’t need to think that, having appeared in any country, Bob Denard immediately picked up his beloved AK-47 and started firing from it in all directions, clearing the surroundings. No, he also provided much more serious services: somewhere he helped to form guards units, somewhere he assisted in the creation of counterintelligence, acted as a military adviser, advised on various sensitive matters, and trained personnel.

New adventures of Bob Denard


After the defeat of the "uprising of white mercenaries" (it was described in the article "Soldiers of Fortune" and "Wild Geese") and returning from Congo Denard received an invitation from his old friend Roger Fulk, who called him to Nigeria. There at that time a new self-proclaimed state appeared - the Republic of Biafra (existed until January 1970).


Nigeria and Biafra

Here, Bob Denard served mainly as a “mercenaire de la charite” - a “mercenary of mercy”: he was engaged in the evacuation of refugees from the war zone. But the situation was such that periodically had to fight.


One of the groups of mercenary Biafra

Then the friends went their separate ways: convinced of the inevitability of the defeat of the rebels, Fulk took his people out of Biafra ahead of time and returned to France, and Robert Denard went to Gabon, where Albert Bongo, former captain of the French Air Force, was in power (in 1973 he will convert to Islam and will become Al Hajj Omar Bongo). Denard became the instructor of the presidential guard and military adviser to the president, and also greatly assisted in the creation of Societe Gabonaise de Securite, the country's counterintelligence service. He fulfilled one more unusual and unexpected task: he supervised the construction of a social settlement in the city of Lekoni, which was “spied” in Côte d'Ivoire on the African analogue of the Israeli kibbutz.

In 1971, Denard ended up in Mauritania, where he also participated in organizing the presidential guard of this country (apparently, this has already become one of the main specialties of this mercenary commander), in 1972 he trained Kurdish separatist detachments in Iran, which were just about to fight in Iraqi Kurdistan . Having glanced briefly in Guinea in 1973, the next year went to Libya, which just at that time, against the backdrop of the ongoing civil war in the country, the troops of neighboring Egypt entered. He fought on the side of the monarchists.

On August 3, 1975, Denard first appeared in the Comoros, the result of this visit was the flight of Ahmed Abdullah Abderman, president of this small state and former senator of France. Then he participated in the preparation of special units of the secret services of Morocco.

Fatal failure in Benin


It was the king of Morocco who was the "sponsor" of the failed coup in Benin in 1977. According to Denard himself, through this monarch, French special services came to him, and the base for training was provided by the President of Gabon Omar Bongo.

It all started well: the people of Denard immediately captured the capital's airport and, reaching the presidential palace, began to fire at it from grenade launchers, partially collapsing the walls. But Denar was desperately out of luck that day: President Kereke was at that time in the port, where the ship with the Soviet rifle was unloading weapons. Upon learning of the attack on the palace, he raised the alarm of the army units, having thrown into the battle even the North Korean special forces of his personal guard. Denard’s squad retreated to the airport, where the plane that damaged the mercenaries in Benin was damaged in a shootout. I had to capture the Indian airliner, on which they reached the capital of Rhodesia Salisbury, where they were arrested.

This история in the future, Denard turned into big trouble, because it was for this unsuccessful attempt that he was convicted in France in 1993. Denard then complained that he had suffered on the instructions of the heads of four states, who ended up having nothing to do with it, and 16 years after those events he received 5 years probation.

But we will return to Rhodesia and see that Denard did not disappear there, but, on the contrary, ended up in the role of an instructor of units participating in battles with partisans. Indeed, it would be foolish for the Rhodesians not to use the services of a specialist of such a level that literally “came down from heaven” to their territory.

Return to Congo


And in the summer of 1977, Denard ended up in the Congo, where he fought ... for Mobutu, of course, the dictator whom he and Shram tried to overthrow in 1967 (this was described in the article "Soldiers of Fortune" and "Wild Geese").

The troops of the Congo National Liberation Front (“Katanga Tigers”), led by General Nathaniel Mbumba, the same one who, together with Jean Schramm, defended the city of Bukava in the same 1967, then invaded Shaba province from Angola.


Nathaniel Mbumba

At the request of Valerie Giscard d'Estaing (President of France), King of Hassan II of Morocco sent XNUMX paratroopers to Zaire, with whom Denard arrived. In November, the Tigers were defeated and retreated to Angola.

Mobutu met Denard as a native and did not ask him a single question about the events of 10 years ago: who remembers the old, that eye is out. And I think I was very pleased at the same time that an old friend came to Congo with Moroccans, and not with the Tigers. In 1978, the Tigers would come to Katanga again and the legionnaires of the Second Parachute Regiment of the Foreign Legion would have to fight with them. But about this - another time and in another article, which you will soon be able to read.
Denard returned to Comoros in 1978.

Operation Atlantis


The customer for the second coup in Comoros was Ahmed Abdullah Abderman, a former president whom Denard successfully “fired” two and a half ago. Denar did not have any obligations to the then Comorian head of Komor, Ali Sualih Mtsashiva, since he himself (later) came to power as a result of a coup.


Comoros on a map

It was with this operation, which Denard called Atlantis, that the great world fame of this mercenary commander began. A total of 46 Merseners (almost all of them were French) sailed from the port of Lorient (Brittany) on a fishing trawler and, after a long voyage on May 29, 1978, landed right on the beach in Moroni (the capital of the Republic of Comoros, the island of Gran Comor). A lightning attack followed by the residence of the head of state, the barracks of the national guard and the strongholds of the youth paramilitary movement "Moissy".

The head of Comoros Ali Sualih, according to rumors, was shot dead right in the bed in which he slept with two wives, but Denard claimed that the local opponents had seized and torn to pieces the Swalich who had been taken out of the palace.

After that, other islands were captured: Anjouan and Moheli.


Denard in the Comoros, 1978

Returning, Ahmed Abdallah appointed Denard as Minister of the Interior and Commander of the Presidential Guard.


Ahmed Abdullah Abderman


Bob Denard and his Comorian Guards

However, the United States and France (who wanted to maintain their monopoly on the right to organize military coups in Africa) and the Organization of African Unity expressed outrage at the actions of Denard. This noise around the distant and little-known inhabitants of the Comoros proves that until 1978 Denard really, as he always claimed, worked in close contact with special services, and therefore the “world community” until then was very indulgent in its activities.

September 26, Robert Denard, defiantly abandoning all posts, flew to South Africa to return to Comoros a few days later: he decided to linger on these paradise islands.


Moroni, the capital of Comoros

Denard received Comorian citizenship, married and even converted to Islam and a new name - Said Mustafa Majub, according to some reports, he performed the hajj.

“In France, I am a Christian, and in Comoros I am a Muslim, that's all. We must respect the religion of the country where you live, "

- so he then explained his decision.


Saeed Mustafa Majub (Bob Denar) at the Moroni Mosque. Comoros, 1989

And he also created a military base of mercenaries here: it was from here that he organized expeditions to Angola and Mozambique.

Denard recalled:

“For many years, the AK-47 was my personal barrel in the Comoros ... Russian weapons of excellent quality. "Soviet military equipment has been in the arsenal of African countries for many years, and this shows its reliability, as Africans can break anything."

Having become the chief military adviser to the president, he lived on Comoros for the next eleven years. Thanks to his connections in South Africa, the Comoros became the most important partner of this country under international sanctions, receiving great benefits from trade with it (it was through Comoros, for example, the supply of arms). The South African government, in turn, provided economic assistance to the friendly state. Thanks to Denard and financial assistance from South Africa, the so-called integration center for agricultural development with an experimental farm, which allocated 600 hectares of land, appeared on Comoros. Through Denara there were also investments in the hotel and construction business.

In 1981, Denara was invited to the CHAD by the Minister of Defense of this country, General Hissen Habré. The “Mercenary King” led the Minister’s allies, the Tubu tribes, who launched an offensive from Sudan in the fall. It all ended with the seizure of the capital in June 1982 and the flight of President Chad Weddei. After this, Denard began work on the creation of the presidential guard, but under pressure from the jealous French, he was forced to return to the Comoros.

In 1987, Denard found himself in a completely unexpected place - a quiet provincial Australia, where he was negotiating with emigrants from the island state of the Republic of Vanuatu (previously it was called New Hebrides). These were the leaders of the banned party "Wanguacu", founded by a certain prophet Muli, who tried to revive the Aboriginal religion. In May-June 1980, he led a rebellion on the island of Spirito Santo, was defeated and sentenced to 14 years in prison. They tried to persuade Denara to organize the abduction of the "prophet," but his proposal did not interest him.

The mysterious death of Ahmed Abdullah Abderman


On the night of November 27, 1989, an event occurred on Comoros, about the reasons for which researchers cannot come to a common opinion so far.

Denard later claimed that one of Ahmed Abdullah Abderman’s guards (a close relative of the president) “opened heavy fire from the machine gun without explanation”. And that he still does not know who exactly he attempted: perhaps the bullets were intended for Denaru, the president was killed by accident.

One way or another, Abdullah died, and in his papers an order was found to transfer powers in an emergency to the head of his guard, Saeed Mustafa Majub (Robert Denard).

Many decided that Denard decided to get rid of the president in order to put another person in his place or even to lead this state himself. However, it is known that Abdullah was a close friend of the Frenchman, and they simply did not have special reasons for such a cool showdown.

The commander Ahmed Mohammed, who led the armed forces of the Comoros (Forces Armues Comoriennes), is much more suspicious: after the assassination of the president, the presidential guard was disarmed by his order, but Denard managed to take control of the situation.

But in whose interests did Mohammed act? It is possible that the customers were the French, who then “kicked” Denard from the Comoros, sending 3 French soldiers against him with the support of 5 ships.

Denard was forced to flee to South Africa, having lost almost all his money, and this serves as indirect evidence of his innocence: otherwise, he would have surely secured himself by withdrawing part of the money to some offshore zone. For three years he came to his senses, mainly writing memoirs and journalistic activities: he founded the news agency Courrier Austral (South Mail, not Australian - it specialized in news on South and Sub-Equatorial Africa) and released Magazine de l'homme d'action ”(“ Journal of the man of action ”). But his reputation was such that when a new coup attempt occurred on September 26, 1992 in Comoros (led by the sons of the former president), everyone immediately blamed him for the “mercenary king” who was peacefully sitting in South Africa. However, no evidence of Denar’s participation was found.

Non-triumphant return to France


In South Africa at that time, it was toward the victory of the supporters of N. Mandela (who was released from prison on February 11, 1990 and became president on May 10, 1994) and was becoming "uncomfortable" here. Therefore, Denard returned to France on February 1, 1993, where he was immediately arrested on charges of organizing a 1977 coup in Benin, and spent 65 days in prison (we have already mentioned this in this article). But suddenly it turned out that he often acted in close contact with the French secret services, while remaining a private person, and it was difficult to determine the fine line behind which the interests of France ended and the interests of Denard and his clients began.

“Often the French authorities did not give me the green light, but I went to yellow,” Denard himself commented on this later.

Therefore, the "king of mercenaries" was given 5 years probation, advising them to live quietly and "not to shine."

Denard was already a world celebrity (even “mad Mike” - Hoar envied his fame). After the release, reports about him hit the front pages of all the media, and viewers had the pleasure of seeing tears of nostalgia flow down the streets of his hometown of Bordeaux on the cheeks of the “king of mercenaries”.

In 1994, Denard took over as commercial director of Societe Internationale Business Services, an agency for the recruitment of military specialists (we remember that in France they were often called mercenaries). Many researchers believe that in the same year, Denard participated in sending mercenaries to Rwanda in the civil war.

And in September 1995, Denard suddenly took a personal part in his last military expedition - again to Comoros, where he arrested the pro-French President Said Johar. Well, what can you do? He liked to make coups in the Comoros. At that time, Denaru was already 66 years old (according to some sources, 68), but, as they say, you won’t drink skill - you remember your hands.

This adventure of the “king of mercenaries”, the last years of his life, as well as the fate of other famous condottiers, Roger Fulk, Mike Hoare, Jean Schramm, will be described in the next article.
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  1. Olgovich 21 June 2020 05: 52 New
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    Under a lucky star, Denard was born - to survive in so many alterations is worth a lot.

    I wonder how many coups he accomplished in total?

    And how many criminal cases in all countries were brought against him?

    A man lived in his heart and in his pleasure, satisfying his passion for adventure and money.

    An extraordinary and capable military man.

    Thank you for the article!
    1. Grandfather 21 June 2020 06: 15 New
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      and you’ll think so ... someone was born to plow on the "uncle", someone to fly into space, and someone to fight, and move the pieces on the board ...
      1. edmed 21 June 2020 07: 11 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        and you’ll think of it ... someone was born to plow on the "uncle", someone to fly into space, and someone to fight, and move the pieces on the board ...

        “To each his own,” the world is arranged as if no one wanted to.
      2. Olgovich 21 June 2020 07: 44 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        and just think ... someone is born to plow on the "uncle", someone to fly into space, and someone to fight, and move the pieces on the board.


        No, Denar is just "made myself", contrary to his birth (peasant) and his usual military career, there is such a capacious English expression: he made himself.

        Everyone has, in principle, such a chance to try. But otherwise, living is easier .....
        1. vladcub 21 June 2020 21: 40 New
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          Do you happen to have such a desire?
          1. Olgovich 22 June 2020 08: 02 New
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            Quote: vladcub
            Do you happen to have such a desire?

            What caused your question?
    2. VLR
      VLR 21 June 2020 07: 55 New
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      The number of coups in which Denard took part: from 6 to 10 according to various authors. 4 were successful.
      1. vladcub 21 June 2020 21: 46 New
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        If out of 6 coups, 4 are successful - impressive.
        Curiously, how does he write about his "pranks" with the law?
        1. VLR
          VLR 21 June 2020 22: 05 New
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          He claimed that he had always acted in the interests of France and its friendly countries. And almost always with the knowledge of the French secret services or the government. He was even called the "last corsair of the Republic." And France “thanked” him for the prosecution.
    3. knn54 21 June 2020 08: 21 New
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      “Any revolution is always paid by someone!”
      Bob Denard
      Africa is the "homeland" of PMCs.
      .
  2. A very interesting series of articles. Thanks to the author!
  3. Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 June 2020 07: 06 New
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    Thank you, Valery!
    Just do not understand what 5 French battleships sailed to the shores of Camora?
    Regards, Vlad!
    1. VLR
      VLR 21 June 2020 07: 50 New
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      Yes, of course, just 5 ships, fix it.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 June 2020 07: 52 New
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        Without ernism, “he who does not work is not mistaken”!
        Sincerely, Vlad!
      2. Phil77 21 June 2020 08: 06 New
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        Good morning! But Denar wanted to visit Russia in 1995, if you believe Eduard Limonov, who had some acquaintance with him. The editors of the magazine * Soldier of Fortune * should pay for the trip. But ... it didn’t work! Thanks for the article! hi
        1. Alf
          Alf 21 June 2020 21: 59 New
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          Quote: Phil77
          But Denar in 1995 wanted to visit Russia.

          I wonder for what purpose?
          Quote: Phil77
          The editorial board of the magazine * Soldier of Fortune * was supposed to pay for the trip.


          But in that situation in Russia, anything could happen ...
      3. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 08: 12 New
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        fix it.
        It became interesting, only full-time authors have the opportunity to correct typos in materials that have passed moderation? A purely theoretical question.
        1. VLR
          VLR 21 June 2020 08: 16 New
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          Moderated materials can only be edited by the editor-in-chief. I turned to him now.
          1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 08: 18 New
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            Thank! The mechanics of the functioning of the resource have become a little clearer.
      4. Phil77 21 June 2020 08: 24 New
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        Here is just a fantasy question.
        But if he had ended up in Moscow in October 1993, and by no means on the side of Yeltsin?
        1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 08: 42 New
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          I think, having received such an offer, he would refuse. Conducting special operations in a metropolis requires other skills. In addition, Denard was a specialist in Africa.
          1. Phil77 21 June 2020 08: 53 New
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            Good morning Anton! Yes, I’m just alternating my coffee. laughing
            1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 08: 58 New
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              Sergei! hi
              Well, me too wink
              By the way, there is a good alternative on the topic of special operations in Moscow. A. Lazarchuk "All who can hold weapons"
          2. Olgovich 21 June 2020 09: 09 New
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            Quote: 3x3zsave
            I think, having received such an offer, he would refuse. Conducting special operations in a metropolis requires other skills. In addition, Denard was an African specialist.

            Anton, hi

            I also think that I would refuse, but for a slightly different reason: Russia is not Africa and there are practically no chances to take my legs alive from it, after SUCH. Either they will fail, or these.
            And he is anyone, but not a suicide.
            1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 09: 23 New
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              And he is anyone, but not a suicide.
              Andrew! hi
              And this too, but I mean that there are no "universal soldiers" (I know only two of them: Van Damme and Lundgren laughing ) Che Guevara, won, also tried in Africa, without local knowledge ... request
            2. Krasnodar 21 June 2020 14: 44 New
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              Quote: Olgovich
              Russia is not Africa and there are practically no chances to take its legs alive out of it, after SUCH. Either they will fail, or these.
              And he is anyone, but not a suicide.

              Everything is possible in Russia - because of corruption. It’s just that in this case, simple mathematics works - access to hundreds of billions of dollars is at stake, so they’re cleaning up such compromising performers.
          3. Catfish 21 June 2020 18: 23 New
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            Hi, hello! hi
            Once, Mlgozhata Tetcherova called the Union - Upper Volta with nuclear missiles, so that, in their understanding, modern Russia is not far from Africa. So Denar was almost a specialty here. laughing
            1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 19: 20 New
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              Uncle Kostya, that's about Thatcher, you're so in vain.
              1. Catfish 21 June 2020 19: 33 New
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                I mean nothing about her. Malgozhata - in Polish - Margarita, and Thatcherova - according to her husband, which Thatcher is. What's the matter? The Polish hyena has always been the best friend of the British lion, as Sir Winnie the Pooh once said.
                1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 19: 53 New
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                  I never thought about the political bias of Winnie the Pooh request
                  Enlighten, please, is he a Tory or Whig?
                  1. Catfish 21 June 2020 20: 08 New
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                    How, you are not familiar with the "political engagement" of Sir Winston Churchill?
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                      Sign. And how does this affect the work of Alan Milne?
                      1. Catfish 21 June 2020 20: 33 New
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                        But this question is not for me, but for this guy. smile
                  2. Korsar4 21 June 2020 20: 09 New
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                    “- What are the Tories? What Whigs ?! Does it mean that I rushed here from Paris in vain? ” (from).
                    1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 20: 30 New
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                      "Worms", "bubi", "blame" ...
                      And for me, "Crosses!" (FROM)
                      1. Korsar4 21 June 2020 21: 44 New
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                        “Voila, voila,
                        Tomorrow we are robbing the king ”(c).
      5. Catfish 21 June 2020 18: 31 New
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        Good afternoon, Valery. hi
        And I didn’t pay attention to it, it’s clear that a typo, where France had so many battleships at that time, and not only from it.
        I want to thank you again for the cycle about the mercenaries. It seems that he seems to have heard about everyone, all kinds of Komors and Biafra, but in reality it turns out that he did not know the details at all. Thank you for “digging” everything, composing and making interesting material.
        This topic attracted me even in early youth after publications in the Soviet press. But there with the details it was not very, but now, thanks to you ... In general - thanks! good drinks
        1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 19: 15 New
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          This topic attracted me even in early youth after publications in the Soviet press.
          And now, attention (!), A tricky question! If such an opportunity presented itself, would he be recruited to Denard?
          1. Catfish 21 June 2020 19: 29 New
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            In the early seventies, after the demobilization from SA - with great pleasure. How to wipe the pants in the scoop is better:
            "Ah this Africa, oh these tropics,
            Where wild elephants and antelopes roam ... " good
            "And only the dust under the boots,
            God is with us and a banner is with us
            And a heavy carbine at the ready ... " fellow
            For example this: Lee-Enfield SMLE No.5 Mk 1 Jungle Carbine

            And even better is this: M2 automatic carbine with a fire mode translator and a curved box-shaped magazine with a capacity of 30 rounds of 7,62 × 33. USA.

            Better yet, this one:
            1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 19: 43 New
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              Exactly like me, in the early nineties.
              I don’t dare to argue about the assault "long barrels", you are a specialist.
              1. Catfish 21 June 2020 19: 46 New
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                Regarding the "long barrel", preferably the two lower ones, I tried both. And the first, just a colonial reader of the damned British colonialists.
                1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 20: 03 New
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                  Well, you remember that I am an "old gunfighter", and I prefer a "short barrel with a long magazine" laughing
                  1. Catfish 21 June 2020 20: 14 New
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                    A gunfighter must wear a "gunfighter mustache"! Do you follow the tradition?
                    1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 20: 42 New
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                      I’m rather a “Doenitz boy” and I prefer a “tactical beard”, because the very process of shaving the muzzle has been completely freezing for thirty years now.
                      1. Catfish 21 June 2020 21: 21 New
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                        Like Wolfgang Lut? - 43 ships, including 1 submarine, - 225712 tons (according to other sources, 47 ships - 228981 tons).

                        And without shaving, I can’t really wake up, so I'm friends with this.
                      2. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 21: 35 New
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                        And without shaving, I can’t really wake up, so I'm friends with this.

                        Children of different eras.
                      3. Catfish 21 June 2020 22: 02 New
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                        But in the army they served in one. soldier
                      4. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 22: 12 New
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                        I served in three armies. And somehow it happened that not a single commander would dig into my unshavenness. No, it was once. The deputy politician, in Murmansk, got to the bottom. He politely sent, pointing to a three-day combat duty, and went to sleep.
                      5. Catfish 21 June 2020 22: 22 New
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                        So you had shoulder straps with gaps, of course. And three armies, that's how. Well, I understand - SA, then RA, and the third one?
                      6. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 22: 44 New
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                        My shoulder straps were pitch black. Ordered, privates and was discharged. He served in the SA, in the Armed Forces (I do not remember what it was then called), in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
                      7. Catfish 21 June 2020 22: 51 New
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                        Oh, damn it, what did you have with the oaths?
                      8. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 23: 04 New
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                        I have repeatedly written that I swore allegiance to one state, and served two others. Like many of my age. It is in connection with this that I can so freely talk about the oath and betrayal.
                        One can write a satirical novel about what happened there, even two. About what happened on earth, and about what was happening in the sky (I’m a POshnik, if that)
          2. Alf
            Alf 21 June 2020 22: 02 New
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            Like Wolfgang Lut?

            Is this the one who managed to drown his own boat at the pier?
          3. Catfish 21 June 2020 22: 19 New
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            The boat really sank at the pier, and is said to be negligent. I don’t know if the commander was on board at that time, I don’t know the cause of the accident, but everyone knows that in terms of effectiveness he is number two after Kretschmer.
          4. Alf
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            I don’t know the cause of the accident,

            A boat came from the raid, a part of the fittings for water intake was dismantled for repair, but the crew was in a hurry to climb on the Frenchwoman and washed off the side, after which the boat, without haste, sank right at the pier. On the one hand, the mechanic who did not follow is to blame, on the other hand, what kind of commander are you, if you have such ... subterfuge?
            The second series .. In the Indian Ocean, Lute surfaced and tried to destroy the bulk carrier from the guns, but the gunpowder was damp (where the commander looked as the main one), and with the second shot the main gun was torn apart, then it turned out that for half a year nobody came up to this gun and it corny overgrown with mud. Chic commander ..
            The third series .. Most of Lute’s “victories” were over the neutrals, and Lute saw this before the attack.
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            Lute was just a PR person
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            Lute was just a PR person

            Another hartmann. It was just a shame to Doenitz that there are superheroes in the Luftwaffe, but he doesn’t, so he launched a program for public relations.
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            I completely agree with you
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      Yes, with a gun, the joke is, of course, stunning. laughing And what about his death from his sentry's bullet, I was somehow not particularly interested in the details.
  • hohol95 21 June 2020 20: 49 New
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    hi So, Konstantin, the classic of the African battlefield FN FAL would not suit you?
    ... Along with the Kalashnikov assault rifle and the M16, the FN FAL is one of the most common types of automatic small arms in the world. Widely used around the world, in various modifications was in service with the armies in more than 90 countries.
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      Hi Aleksey. hi
      FN FAL

      I only held it in my hands, I couldn’t shoot. And where was it to get NATO ammunition 7,62x51 mm.? In addition, this is a full-fledged rifle cartridge, go shoot with this rifle with hand bursts. You can’t get into an elephant from half a meter away. No, I'm for Kalashnikov under the "seven." smile
      And let them fight with M16.
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        Wherever he saw (news stories, documentary) similar rifles used them as self-loading. no firing bursts. The British generally made them only self-loading.
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          There is no question of the British, I was referring to the basic version of the rifle manufactured by the Belgian company Fabrique Nationale de Herstal.
          And in the world there were a bunch of her clones, this one, for example, with a cut-off for a line of three cartridges.
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          With a heavy barrel and bipods - a light machine gun!
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          Lyosha, where did you see the handbrake with a cutoff of three and without continuous automatic fire? Enlarge the photo.
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          So one of the models was simply equipped with bipod.
          Is this by any chance a Brazilian or an American option?
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          But hell knows whose, I tried to increase, but everything is blurry. But someone was definitely not happy with either the Belgian or the British options, and they chose the middle ground.
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          Judging by the muzzle device, this is Austrian Steyr Stg. 58

          One of the most noticeable differences between the two is the muzzle of the rifle. Major Stoll, head of the Austrian Procurement Commission, developed the device itself. This unique design is a multi-purpose flash suppressor that can also be used for a grenade launcher and barbed wire cutting.
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          I can’t download the video, where from the Austrians they thrash heartily in long lines.
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          And what prevented the Austrians from then putting a "cut-off in 3 rounds"?
          They talked about this in the late 90s of the 20th century. If memory fails me ...
          And at the same time they write that the Swedes in their FALs removed such cut-offs or did not do it. Unreliable in frosty weather! Only solitary or queue.
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          Unreliable in frosty weather!

          Why?
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          It is necessary to ask the Swedes. What I read, I wrote it.
          In 1981, a specially created modification of the FNC 80 under the designation AK-5 was adopted by the army of Sweden.

          Reading WikiWiki -
          AK-5
          The Swedish machine repeats the Belgian with the exception of a few changes made to better suit the northern climate:
          increased survivability of some parts and the resistance of metal surfaces to corrosion due to special treatment;
          the loading handle is made more convenient for fighters wearing winter gloves;
          butt and fore-end lengthened;

          changed sight.
          Also, the firing mode was excluded from the firing mode in fixed bursts of 3 shots.
  • 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 20: 52 New
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    I'm in the "long barrel" - a complete zero. Yuzal Mosinka, Mauser, M-16, AK of various modifications. On this my acquaintance with rifles ends.
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      Anton, as far as I understand the modern "bird" language, "yuzal" - means used and began to be shot. And if so, it means that he is familiar with weapons well. Here, some "specialists" saw only in the pictures, and go and prove them something.
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        Your understanding of the verb "yuzat" is true.
        1. Catfish 21 June 2020 22: 20 New
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          And how do you like the M16 compared to the AK-74, it is simply a sin to compare with the AKM. smile
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          M16, "applied", well, lies better in the shoulder.
          Everything else ... Well, FIG knows. I shot too few rifles for critical analysis.
  • Undecim 22 June 2020 00: 12 New
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    In the early seventies, after the demobilization from SA - with great pleasure. How to wipe the pants in the scoop is better:
    "Ah this Africa, oh these tropics,
    Where wild elephants and antelopes roam ... "

    It’s better to “wipe your pants in a scoop” alive and healthy than to wallow in the tropics as a hyena droppings or to serve as a shelter for some Dracunculus medinensis for the rest of your life, decomposing slowly alive. Africa, it is, of course, beautiful, but in places it’s complete shit.
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    By the way, there was a plot on Discovery about the mercenaries of that time, and so many of them had it on newsreels, PPP 43
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      Hello, hello hi I've never come across "Goose" with PPS, although it may well be. I don’t remember that it was ours that drove these cars to Africa, but the Chinese and the Poles could easily do this, and use the mercenaries as trophies. After all, Czechs around the world drove their sub-station Holeka model 23/25.
      Yes, but I remember seeing photographs of African blacks with our PPSh, and even with round discs.
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        Hi, man. I think it was the Chinese PPPs. I was surprised myself. But a voice-over was broadcasting that it was precisely because of the penetrative ability of the bullet that the geese took it. 200 meters for the selva, that’s it. Yes, and he is light
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          due to the penetration ability of the bullet, the geese took it.

          So after all, professionals, them and cards, i.e. PPP in hand. smile
      2. hohol95 25 June 2020 07: 59 New
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        I don’t remember that it was ours that drove these cars to Africa, but the Chinese and the Poles could easily do this, and use the mercenaries as trophies.

        Poles to the faculty turns out to have attached a wooden butt

        PPS wz. 1943/1952
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          And Ukrainians put bipods, a plastic magazine for 50 rounds at this Polish teaching staff. And it turns out a light machine gun
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      And it could not be Spain - Germany-Dux Dux M53?
      1. DeKo 25 June 2020 06: 53 New
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        Not. The commentator emphasized the type of weapon. He voiced it
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          If the name is voiced then no questions asked. If those PPS were without wooden stocks, then it means they were made in China or North Korea.
          If with wooden butts, then they arrived from the NDP.
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            It was with a folding butt.
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    Not. No to him. And I will explain why: he considered Russians and simply Slavs (except for Poles) third-class people
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    Thank you, Valery!
    I read the interview with Denard in a reprint of Komsomolskaya Pravda.
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    since Africans can break anything
    Bhe))) "And where are the other balls? - One broke, one got lost somewhere ..."
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      Don’t believe it! But my factory has an adjuster from the * children of the festival *. Dark, dark, like night! But the special is good. An exception to the rule? laughing
      1. Cowbra 21 June 2020 09: 03 New
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        I generally saw a Chechen turner. True, he decently smile
        1. Phil77 21 June 2020 09: 08 New
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          Most likely this is a matter of educating a person.
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            I would say: environment, upbringing and personal qualities (abilities, inclinations, strong-willed qualities - so that I would not fall under the influence of a yard punks or surrounding drug addicts).
          2. Catfish 21 June 2020 18: 35 New
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            Seryozha, hi!
            A friend of mine worked in South Africa as a carrier with De Beers, drove dump trucks with waste rock. So he said exactly: on the road saw the accident, one hundred percent, that the wheel was a nigger. A couple of years of work there turned him from a true Komsomol member to a true racist! smile
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              Quote: Sea Cat
              Seryozha, hi!
              A friend of mine worked in South Africa as a carrier with De Beers, drove dump trucks with waste rock. So he said exactly: on the road saw the accident, one hundred percent, that the wheel was a nigger. A couple of years of work there turned him from a true Komsomol member to a true racist! smile

              164,4 thousand traffic accidents occurred in Russia last year, which is 2,2% less than in 2018
              Black-nosed and reached Russia
              1. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 19: 32 New
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                This is a different topic. Read V. Kunin "Three on the highway"
                1. Liam 21 June 2020 19: 47 New
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                  No, the theme is the same)
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                    You see what’s the matter, colleague, in Russia a slight scratching of the bumper is already considered an accident. Conclusion: You have not been to Russia for a long time.
                    1. Liam 21 June 2020 23: 33 New
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                      To be completely accurate in Russia, I have never been. I don’t know what’s wrong with it, but it’s clearly not a scratch:In 2018, there were 168 thousand traffic accidents with victims in the country. Every ninth is fatal. During the year, 18 thousand people died on the country's roads. Another 215 thousand people were injured.
                      And these are scary numbers, one of the highest in the world. But it somehow doesn’t even occur to me to associate this with some kind of inherent inability of Russians to drive cars and observe traffic rules. Therefore, user theories about African drivers are stupid
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                        Sorry, colleague, I don’t know what source you use, but the numbers given are clearly not “fighting”.
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                        ))
                        The State traffic inspectorate of Russia disclosed data on the number of victims of traffic accidents for 2019.

                        In total, according to the agency, as a result of the accident, 16,9 thousand people died on Russian roads, of which about 4,9 thousand were pedestrians. For comparison: in 2018, 18,2 thousand people died in Russia due to road accidents, of which 5,3 thousand were pedestrians. Due to traffic violations, nearly 3,3 thousand pedestrians died compared to 2,5 thousand in 2018.

                        2019 thousand people received various injuries in road accidents in 210,8, of which 45,9 thousand were pedestrians

                        RBC with reference to the traffic police of the Russian Federation.
                        https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rbc.ru/v/s/amp.rbc.ru/rbcnews/rbcfreenews/5e57fdc19a7947d9ab7f5adc%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%253D#ampf=
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                        Again, the numbers and years do not beat.
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                        My colleague, I apologize, was wrong.
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                      Anton, you argue in vain. Open http://stat.gibdd.ru/
                      2019 year
                      164358 accidents in which 16981 people died.
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                      Thank you Victor Nikolaevich!
                      Already looked.
        2. Catfish 21 June 2020 19: 35 New
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          Chernopopopy from the nigger is not much different. Didn’t you communicate with the “small but proud” peoples of the Caucasus and Central Asia?
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            I am not interested in the chromatic shades of human anatomy as much as you
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              So seriously did not encounter either one or the other. I hope to continue to lead you as well.
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              Between us, in vain. These "chromatic shades" have not yet tried to break your doors.
  • AU Ivanov. 21 June 2020 09: 32 New
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    I know a gypsy programmer. I won’t be surprised.
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    Can not be!!!
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    Why not believe something? I was in '92 on the Murmansk "lip" with this, too, a Muscovite, by the way.
    But the special is good. An exception to the rule?
    Being determines consciousness.
    1. Catfish 21 June 2020 18: 38 New
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      Yes, your life is rich - sitting on the lip in the same cell with a black man ... But I’m more and more with Russians, Tatars, and Ukrainians, and there’s nothing to brag about. request
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        Uncle Kostya! hi
        I do not boast, I just note the fact from the biography. Some episodes from this, I would rather forget.
      2. hohol95 21 June 2020 20: 55 New
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        The main thing you did not have to sit in a police cell with a drunk black man. Which then also vomited ...
        An example from the life of people with whom I worked with from 1996 to 1999!
        Then it happened!
        They were charged with the theft of two door leaves with glass inserts!
        Which the mistress herself gave. laughing
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          Quote: hohol95
          They were charged with the theft of two door leaves with glass inserts!

          WHAT FOR ??? On figs they stole them?
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            Two plumbers fulfilled the application in the apartment! The landlady made repairs and asked to throw away the old doors. One of the locksmiths decided to take the door from the hall. There were no objections. They also took one of the electricians to help. And in the evening they carried these wings on foot march. Not trying to get on the bus with them. And ran into a police patrol. They were “tied” to a black man in a cage ... At midnight they brought them to the mistress of the door. She confirmed the fact of the voluntary transfer of the door leaf.
            But they were released only at 16,00 the next day! Such is the story. hi
            There were no mobile then!
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              Quote: hohol95
              Such is the story.

              Moral, do not be greedy! Could Gazelle catch.
              At midnight they brought her to the mistress of the door.

              Here she is "delighted" ... In the middle of the night to deal with the policemen ...
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                1997 or 98 year. More police.
                And the "Gazelle" to catch after 20.00 then it was difficult!
                For two wings, then ... And a little expensive!
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                  1997 or 98 year. More police.

                  Who cares ? In those troubled times, they were even more frostbitten, now they have driven them into at least some kind of framework.
                  Quote: hohol95
                  And a little expensive!

                  A day in a monkey house is just the thing.
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                    Survived. Just think, one day they didn’t climb the basements and attics. The Negro was long remembered. But more with humor!
                    I myself "pulled out the guys for the mobile card." so they were generally put in a cell! They laughed at the entire "front desk." They also gave us a snack good
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                    Quote: hohol95
                    Survived. Just think, one day they didn’t climb the basements and attics. The Negro was long remembered. But more with humor!
                    I myself "pulled out the guys for the mobile card." so they were generally put in a cell! They laughed at the entire "front desk." They also gave us a snack good

                    But there is something to remember!
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                    Exactly drinks
                    The main thing is that both stories ended well.
                    And without consequences!
                    Although in the second case the court shone for several days "for drinking alcohol in the courtyard of a house"!
                    Celebrated my DR!
    2. 3x3zsave 21 June 2020 23: 23 New
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      Alexey hi
      I just didn’t have to sit somewhere! Of detention, of course, not a sentence.
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        Fortunately, I only drink beer in the cell of a branch that is not yet working! With the ensign then the police! drinks
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          My first night in the department was in January 91, when there were no ensigns in the police.
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            I could be mistaken with the rank - it was a long time ago - 97 or 98.
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    But the special is good. An exception to the rule?

    Exceptions only confirm the rules.
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    Exception to the rule?

    White crow. I would be like everyone else, I would still ride on the palm trees in Africa.
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    sending 3 thousand French soldiers against him 5 battleships.

    Where did the Franks get so many battleships in 1989?
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      VLR 21 June 2020 12: 12 New
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      5 ships fixed
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      I apologize terribly, Ivan, but lately your comments are aimed at identifying "scratches" in the authors' texts. With your knowledge of history, it is depressing ...
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        I don’t even know what to tell you. Personally, I am always grateful to readers pointing out inaccuracies or typos to me.
        Attention to detail creates perfection, and perfection is not a trifle :))
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          Hmmm ... In Artyom’s articles, you don’t point out inaccuracies, corporate solidarity?
          1. Senior seaman 21 June 2020 15: 05 New
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            Firstly, you are wrong. https://topwar.ru/index.php?do=lastcomments&userid=181714
            secondly, to indicate an inaccuracy, it is necessary to find this very inaccuracy :)) Artem and I do not coincide in everything, so if there are errors there, I do not always see them.
            Thirdly, as for me, if the reader found a typo, then at least he carefully read it :)))
  • Catfish 21 June 2020 18: 54 New
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    I tried to deal with the weapons of these guys. Well, everything is clear with the machine gun, this is the Czechoslovak easel machine gun ZB 53 / Vz 37, the Czechs drove him around the world before the Second World War and after.

    But with a machine gun a little more complicated, that it’s Kalashnikov is already understandable, but whose whose production it is impossible to make out.
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      Also Czechoslovak CZ Sa vz. 58.
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        I can’t agree, my friend, not a damn thing is really visible there. I twisted the picture in Photoshop and, it seems, I began to guess a folded bayonet under the barrel. If so, then, of course, a Chinese, there were a dime a dozen of them, the cheapest. But I will not undertake to assert. request
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          The Chinese are so Chinese.
          But Czech "samopalos" were delivered to African countries!
          In the photographs, the indigenous inhabitants of Africa are depicted with the Yugoslav, Romanian, Chinese, Hungarian versions of AK!
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            I do not argue.
            What to do, something they needed to fight, that’s why they raked from different “bounties”. laughing
  • bubalik 21 June 2020 19: 19 New
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    Valery, thanks for the interesting series of articles. hi

    I just recently came across a phrase on another resource: ,,, Soviet sailors submariners in Angola, in 1966. participated in clashes with mercenaries. "The question arose in your articles about mercenaries in Africa, you did not mention such cases, this was not or is it still secret?
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      In 1966, UNITA was created - and this despite the fact that there were already MPLA and FNLA. And soon in Angola, a war began on 6 fronts immediately. The USSR and Cuba sent instructors who, according to rumors, not only trained. And there, probably, everything could be, but there is still little intelligible information.
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        There was a long time ago a documentary about Angola and our specialists.
        So, it indicated that the bodies of the deceased instructor and his wife were long stored by the Yuarovites.
        But then they gave it along with a captured specialist captured in the same battle.
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          I repeat, even conscripts served in Angola. I myself pulled there for a year
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        The MPLA relied on the Mbundu people as well as the Mulattos.
        FNLA relied on the bakongo.
        UNITA relying on the Ovimbund.
        The external allies of the MPLA were the USSR and Cuba.
        The FNLA enjoyed the support of Zaire, the United States, France, and also China, and to some extent the DPRK and the CPP.
        UNITA has established military-political relations with South Africa.
        Data from Wiki.
        An interesting "hitch" DPRK and Socialist Romania supported the FNLA.
        And the USSR and Cuba - MPLA.
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      What kind of mercenaries in those days? There were instructors, there were advisers. In Angola, in the 80s, even conscripts served
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    Interesting biography. Saturated.
    Thanks for the article, don’t stop.
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      Let him continue, but without gross errors.
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    It seems that the author seriously approached the article, but gross errors forced to quit reading altogether. But so much has been written. There was and is Folk, not Fulk. After the failure of the operation "Shrimp" in Benin, a group of mercenaries flew on their plane, they only forgot one fighter. The Indian plane had to be captured by a group of Michael Horus in the Seychelles.
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      Dear, who's stopping you from writing?
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    In Comoros, the AK-47 has been my personal barrel for many years ... Russian weapons of excellent quality

    In the original - Russian weapons. Great article, Valery, thank you so much!
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    Thanks to the author. Articles are interesting.
  • DeKo 24 June 2020 19: 24 New
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    By the way, in Nicaragua, too, there were many "geese" and others. If they attacked the Sandinists with joy, then where we were, they tried not to climb. Or in the case when we were 10, and they are many times more. I remember the summer of 88, we had to be hot. There is such a city of Hinotega. The capital of coffee. We guarded our representative office of Vneshtorg there. Coffee Purchasing Department. Us, 4 sergeants-conscripts and two captains. Well, the local police and Sandinista. At the first shots, the locals disappeared somewhere. Well, we, steadily enduring the hardships and deprivations of army service, fought back one and a half days. Here from such mercenaries. Of the 5 blind men, two were white.
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      VLR 25 June 2020 11: 49 New
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      These were the people of David Walker's private military company Keenie Meenie Services. I’ll talk about this a bit in an article about PMCs.
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      2. DeKo 25 June 2020 17: 46 New
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        I will wait. Thank.
  • trahterist 27 June 2020 20: 30 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Dead Day
    and just think ... someone is born to plow on the "uncle", someone to fly into space, and someone to fight, and move the pieces on the board.


    No, Denar is just "made myself", contrary to his birth (peasant) and his usual military career, there is such a capacious English expression: he made himself.

    Everyone has, in principle, such a chance to try. But otherwise, living is easier .....

    Actually canonical in Aglitsky is consideredSelf made man
    And yet, Obviously, it was not possible to do without an innate talent for such "events" and financial "warmth".
    Even if you are a genius of military strategy three times, without any help (Communications, as mentioned in the article correctly, by the way) can not do.
    Yes, even without a banal start-up capital.
    And in the fable about “starting with a dollar in your pocket”, “exclusively by your own labor”, “Without anyone’s doom” I don’t believe from the first days of the beginning of conscious work, and I don’t advise others.
    How many people because of such attitudes toward themselves have not broken their lives, in the pursuit of a mirage of “success”, they cannot be counted.