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Second Lebanon War. Completion, results, conclusions

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On August 7, shelling of Beirut and the Bekaa Valley continued. A fierce battle unfolded in the area of ​​the village of Hula. The fighting for Bint Jubail continued, where militants from ATGM killed two Israelis - Major Yotam Lotan and Sergeant Noam Meyerson, and also knocked out one tank. Against this background, for several days, the ripening decision to replace the commander of the Lebanese front, General Adam, went over to the practical plane, and 49-year-old General Moshe Kaplinsky came to replace Adam.


Adam was tolerant of this, Kaplinsky treated Adam respectfully, but in general it was decided that the retired Adam would remain at headquarters. Adam, the tanker himself, was dissatisfied with Halutz’s orders beyond measure, but how to resist the boss?


Kaplinsky in 2000 was one of the leaders in the withdrawal of Israeli troops from southern Lebanon. The general was considered an authoritative expert in the tactics of ground forces and was well acquainted with the situation. Kaplinsky was officially appointed representative of the General Staff to lead the military operation in Lebanon. At the same time, the commander of the Northern Military District, Major General Udi Adam, officially kept his post, although the Israeli press from the very beginning of the conflict voted about his professional suitability and readiness to lead a non-classical tank, and a partisan war against well-trained and armed militants.

Fuad Signora was able to get his parliament to approve his decision to deploy 15 Lebanese state soldiers in southern Lebanon. Even Hezbollah ministers voted in favor. Olmert was delighted. The fact that extremists supported the deployment of the Lebanese army in southern Lebanon indicated that the Hezbollah forces were running out and the group’s leadership was seeking a ceasefire. As the prime minister said then,

“The faster our army can leave Lebanon, the more we will be happy. But this will happen only after the main goals are achieved - the removal of Hezbollah from the northern border and the cessation of rocket attacks. ”

On August 9, five Israeli soldiers died and several were injured, and the tank was damaged. Pepper had to explain. He explained at a meeting between Olmert and German Foreign Minister Steinmeier that Hezbollah uses modern Russian-made anti-tank systems against Israeli troops:

"In the past, they promised us that they would not fall into Hezbollah’s hands, but today they are being used against soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces in Lebanon."

The Ha-Arez newspaper wrote about the same thing: with reference to the Israeli intelligence services, it was alleged here that the militants used RPG-29 hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers, which Russia supplied to Syria. The RPG-29 shot is capable of penetrating the armor of Israeli Merkava tanks. Hezbollah’s availability of a modern anti-tank weapons Russian-made in Israel began to speak back in 2005. They said something, but they didn’t prepare the Merkava.


It was not politically possible to end the war on such a note. Finally, by August 10, they decided to do what they had to start with: launch a general offensive to the Litani River. But as? On this, as always, there were two opinions. The command of the Northern (Lebanese) front invited the divisions of Galya Hirsch (No. 91) to continue to advance north from their positions, the divisions of Guy Tsur (No. 162) to move across the southern Lebanon from the Israeli border from east to west, and the paratroopers under the command of Eyal Eisenberg land from helicopters near the Litani River and they are waiting who will be the first to break through to them.

Olmert did not undertake to solve the military task, but for his benefit, the former chief of the general staff and retired lieutenant general Shaul Mofaz was the minister in his office. Olmert turned to him for professional advice.


Having cast a professional eye over the command plan, Mofaz advised him to forget about it and offered his own option in return. He believed that two divisions should, without any helicopters, strike along the sea to Tire, turn inland into the Litani River - and immediately the entire Hezbollah has the IDF in its rear. Will she want to fight after that further? Olmert liked the logic of Mofaz's plan, and he ordered that Pepper and Halutz take it as a basis. But the two opposed sharply. They could not have acted otherwise, the chairs were already swinging under both, and then Mofaz with his own initiative. Political adversary. Then the cautious Olmert put the matter to the discussion of the cabinet. During the discussion, the matter turned out so that civil ministers argued with the military personnel about the details of the military offensive was inconvenient. As a result, they forgot about the Mofaz plan, and the war plan, under which Halutz and Peretz had already signed up, gained strength.

By this time (during the thirty days of the war) 100 Israelis were killed (64 of them - military, 36 - civilians), and the number of ground-to-ground missiles that fell in Israel exceeded two thousand.

On the same day, finally began a large-scale evacuation of Israelis from the northern regions of the country, the most affected by Hezbollah rocket attacks. Residents who have not yet evacuated themselves were transported to Tel Aviv and placed in hotels through the Sohnut agency and the Birthright program. The cost of the operation was 2 million shekels (more than 450 thousand dollars). At first it was about the evacuation of about 14 thousand people for a period of one week.

Despite the decision made on August 9 to expand the ground operation in southern Lebanon up to the Litani River, on the night of August 10, Ehud Olmert ordered the operation to be postponed, according to the official version, to enable the UN Security Council to find a peaceful solution to the crisis. The UN was just deciding on a ceasefire; Ambassadors Bolton from the United States and La Sabliere from France once again ratified the conditions for this ceasefire.

It would seem that since the offensive was launched, we must hurry. Observers, however, believed in those days that Israel was forced to postpone the operation under US pressure. The White House warned de Israel that the expansion of the operation in Lebanon could lead to an escalation of violence. The United States really began to give in to the ideas of France, which has always supported Lebanon, to end the war immediately. But “immediately” meant defeat for Israel.

Local action continued as usual. The Israeli command announced the capture of the Lebanese city of Marjayun, 9 km from the border.

For a large-scale operation, a regrouping of forces was required. The Israelis intended to continue to bypass settlements, occupying strategic heights, and only after that proceed to the destruction of Hezbollah militants. Enough unnecessary victims. Such an operation required careful study and formation and transfer of additional units to the war zone. However, it was necessary to hurry until a ceasefire had not yet been officially announced by the UN. They decided to attack at two in the afternoon of August 11.

From the morning of August 11, in response to the losses, the Israeli army subjected aviation and land and sea artillery attacks on settlements and Hezbollah rear bases throughout Lebanon. Beirut and Tire were also hit by air.


Divisions of the Northern Front received orders to attack, when the clock has already struck 5 pm this Friday. Within half an hour, the order reached the brigades and battalions. Not only in the evening, but for the Nahal brigade, Division 162 unexpectedly changed the order. Instead of the planned crossing of the Saluki River from the west, she was to attack a system of bunkers near the border in the forehead.

At the same time, in the most literal sense, at 6 pm Israeli time, the Americans and the French at the UN agreed on the conditions for a ceasefire, including the deployment of 15 Lebanese soldiers in the south of the country and excluding from it mention of Shaba farms. Within one and a half hours, from 6 to 7:30 pm, Signora and Nasrallah agreed to the terms. Exactly at 8:20 p.m. this agreed draft of the future UN resolution No. 1701 got to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Jerusalem.

At the time when Livni and Rice congratulated each other over the telephone with the end of the war, at 9 o’clock in the evening, Ejal Eisenberg’s paratroopers began to land from helicopters on Lebanese territory. At the same time, the first divisions of the 162nd division went on the offensive in the general direction to the Saluki rivulet. In a few hours, the contingent of Israeli troops in Lebanon was virtually tripled. At this point, about 50-60 thousand IDF soldiers fought against Hezbollah. The seizure of the territory to the Litani River could also guarantee that it would then be transferred under the control of the Lebanese army.

Second Lebanon War. Completion, results, conclusions

At the same time, in a conversation with Condoleezza, Rice Ehud Olmert told her that Israel was ready to end the operation immediately after its main demands were accepted by the international community: Hezbollah militants should be disarmed and withdrawn from southern Lebanon, where they should be introduced a large international military contingent with the participation of the Lebanese government army. This evasive response was intended to stretch time, as the military told Olmert that it would take 60 hours to advance. Showers, they said about eight hours, and when she heard about 60, she called the prime minister.

“I don’t understand this hochma about 60 hours, and if I don’t understand, nobody will understand.”

So she said.

It was difficult for her to be between the UN and the IDF. Olmert said that 60 hours are needed for the troops to reach the Litani River. Livni contacted Kofi Annan, and he decided that the ceasefire would enter into force 48 hours after its announcement at the UN. So the IDF received two days for the offensive. To finally settle everything, on the same eventful Friday night, Olmert called President Bush, for the first time in the war.

Exactly at 7:52 p.m. August 11 New York time (2:52 a.m. August 12, Middle Eastern time), the UN Security Council unanimously voted for resolution No. 1701 on a ceasefire in Lebanon. The draft resolution was jointly put forward by France and the United States. The resolution obligated Hezbollah and Israel to ceasefire on August 14, provided for the long-awaited deployment of 15 UN troops in southern Lebanon, ordered Lebanon to introduce an equal number of its own troops in the buffer zone from the Lebanese-Israeli border to the Litani River and

“The disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon [according to UN Security Council resolution No. 15591 so that ... power and weapons in Lebanon belong only to the Lebanese state.”

According to the resolution, weapons should not be sold and delivered to Lebanon without the permission of the government. In parallel with the deployment of UNIFIL and Lebanon troops, Israel must withdraw its forces from Lebanese territory. On the whole, it was Israel’s diplomatic half-victory, since now, at least theoretically, Hezbollah was losing its cherished bunkers on the border.

French troops were expected to form the basis of UN forces in Lebanon.

According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, Russia supported the resolution, but was not going to send its peacekeepers to the conflict zone.

According to the resolution, UN troops received additional powers to ensure a ceasefire. In particular, they could use weapons to protect civilians and representatives of humanitarian organizations. Israel and Lebanon supported the resolution.

Nasrallah on August 12 has now openly stated in an interview with CNN that his organization will obey the resolution.

Iranian Foreign Minister says on Iranian television that Resolution No. 1701

"Serves Zionist interests."

And Lieutenant Colonel Effy Defrin was supposed to lead his 9th tank battalion of the 401th tank brigade in Saluki. He knew that his fighters did not have enough training due to appeals to the annual training camp, that supplies were intermittent, that orders from superiors were not coordinated, and that his soldiers were eager for battle, despite all this. Casting strong words about the fact that the supporting infantry had not been given hand grenades, he learned that his tankers did not know how to attach smoke bombs to cars, since they had not been taught this at the training camps. After that, strong words fell from Defrin so abundantly, as if he had their whole warehouse behind his teeth. But his battalion used to patrol the surroundings of Jericho, where there wasn’t much to maneuver and smoke screens. And now we need to move to Rab-a-Tatlin, KhirbetKseyf, Kantara, then to Saluki, Randoria and then almost to the coastal Tire. Well, that is not to Cyprus ...

Again with a delay, the ground offensive began in the very first hours of August 12, Saturday. The battalion of the Nahal brigade attacked the village of Randoria, where serious Hezbollah guys were waiting for them at 3 a.m.

An hour later, when it was already getting light, Defrin was informed that his tanks could move. The column moved towards Saluki along the bottom of a dry river with a distance of 20 meters between the cars. Defrin was in the fourth car, counting from the head of the column. The first three vehicles seemed to go quietly, when suddenly three anti-tank missiles hit his tank one by one, and he stood up. At the same moment, a cannon was blown up by a tank in front of Defrin's car. Defrin survived, but was out of order. Despite the loss of the commander, the battalion advanced further under fire and lost on the hillside 300 meters away from the intended path. The battalion was not given a tank bulldozer to clear the rubble, and the movement did not work fast. Another tank was blown up by a mine. Another tank just slid off a steep slope. Finally, the remaining tanks reached the village and opened methodical fire on its houses.

Houses and bunkers snapped. A few more tanks were shot down from hand grenade launchers. Tankers and a platoon of support infantry made their way from the burning tank to the burning tank and pulled out the wounded. Stretchers and first-aid kits were burned in cars; the wounded were dragged to a group of trees down the hill. Reinforcements did not arrive. There was no artillery and air support. Believing that the militants would want to capture the body of the killed soldier or tanker, they took all the bodies with them and moved down under enemy fire.

All day, August 12, fierce clashes were 7 km from the Israeli border. Militants near the village of Yater shot down an Israeli military helicopter, which landed troops near the village. They succeeded, since the landing was carried out, even at night, but with a full moon. The Sikorsky CH-53 helicopter crashed from an SA-7 rocket, and five crew members died. Keren Tendler, a helicopter mechanic, was the only female soldier to die in this war.


Keren was the first woman in Israel to become a combat helicopter mechanic. She owns the words:

"My goal is to prove to everyone that such a purely male profession, as a crew member of a combat helicopter and aircraft, is entirely female forces. Women can be as cool aviation specialists as men, and even better than them."

The commandant of the paratroopers, Colonel Hagay Mordechai, survived; he flew one helicopter earlier. In total, 20 helicopters were involved in the operation. However, after the helicopter was shot down, they decided not to send more paratroopers to the rear, and the Givati ​​and Maglan formations remained in Israel.

Another helicopter landing was landed near the village of Kafra, 5 km behind the front line.

In total, 24 Israeli soldiers died on that day.

Since Defrin to Randoria not break through. succeeded, this task was now to be carried out by the tank battalion of Lieutenant Colonel Tsakhi Segev. Segev led the tanks to the attack to the right of the previous battlefield and by three o’clock on Sunday morning made his way to the Nakhal battalion near the village. Now, finally, one could think about the coordinated actions of the tank brigade and the infantry brigade "Nahal", but an order came from above to stop and wait for a ceasefire announcement. The paratroopers landed from helicopters had already been made to attack the village of Jebel Amal in order to put an end to the Katyushas in her houses, as the order had been received from the division to “dismiss” due to the ceasefire and ceasefire.

And all because at 4 o’clock that day, General Gadi Aizenkot, the chief of the operational department of the general staff, had to decide whether to continue the offensive or interrupt it. Since Halutz and Kaplinsky rushed north, he had to consult with Brigadier General Josi Beidec, a scout. Given the heavy casualties, the slow advance and the approaching cease-fire, both decided to abort the offensive. Upon learning of this via video link, Halutz and Kaplinsky opposed. Now it was up to Pepper to decide. Asked for the post of Minister of Defense - make military decisions. He habitually agreed with Halutz, but news from the UN did not give them a choice.


On August 13, the people discussed the UN resolution and the reaction of their own government. It turned out the actual recognition of his defeat and inability to win the war against Hezbollah.

In particular, the problem of the release of the abducted Israeli soldiers was not resolved, which was the reason for the hostilities. The resolution merely called for their release. In addition, Israel would prefer to have a contingent of NATO forces in southern Lebanon, rather than the UN. There were calls for the resignation of the Prime Minister and the Minister of Defense. They were accused of inexperience, which was expressed in the belief that the Hezbollah problem could be solved with the help of air strikes alone, and in the delay in starting a major ground operation.

The opposition demands the creation of a state commission to investigate the actions of state structures and the army during the conflict.

In the meantime, fierce battles were fought in the Ait HaShaab region, 700 meters from the Israeli border. During August 13, virtually the entire Israeli north was subjected to intensive rocket fire. One of the rockets fell at the entrance to the Safed Police Department. About 100 rockets exploded in the Kiryat Shmona area. In the Western Galilee as a result of rocket explosions, severe fires arose. In the afternoon, Hezbollah attacked Haifu and Kriot in a massive bombardment.

On August 14, until 8 a.m., when the ceasefire agreement entered into force, rocket attacks on Israeli territory and skirmishes of the ground forces with Hezbollah continued. A few hours before the end of the war, television reporters were able to film the launch of the Katyusha from a Lebanese village lying just one kilometer from the Israeli town of Metula.

At 8 o’clock in the morning the fighting ceased, and all frowned at Olmert.

What have we achieved in 33 days of fighting?

Olmert, in turn, frowned at the generals.


Israel has so far reserved the right to self-defense and declared the maintenance of the sea and air blockade of Lebanon. A few hours before the ceasefire, Israeli planes scattered leaflets over Beirut warning that if Hezbollah violated the terms of the ceasefire, Israel’s retaliation would be even stronger than before.

In turn, the Lebanese government, due to internal disagreements, could not agree on the disarmament of Hezbollah militants. Thus, Security Council resolution No. 1559, requiring Lebanon to disarm Hezbollah, was not implemented.

In the morning, thousands of Lebanese refugees in long convoys of vehicles moved from the north of the country to their homes in the south along the few surviving roads. So ended the most incomprehensible in all history Israeli war ...

During the fighting and as a result of Hezbollah rocket attacks 166 Israelis were killed: 121 military personnel and 45 civilians. About 2000 people were injured.

Victims among the civilian population of Lebanon amounted to 1140 people killed and over 4000 wounded.

According to the Lebanese government, as early as July 19, Lebanon’s damage from Israeli bombing totaled $ 2,5 billion. Many infrastructure facilities were destroyed, long-term damage was caused only to the tourism business, which recently recovered after the Civil War, which created 10-15% of the country's GDP.

Israel suffered losses. The rocket attacks on Israel from Lebanese territory affected 70 settlements whose infrastructure was damaged in the hundreds of millions of dollars. According to the All-Israel Association of Industrialists, in the first one and a half to two weeks of the war, only the direct losses of industrial enterprises came close to half a billion dollars. Millions of losses were suffered by the trade sector and the tourism business.

According to various sources, during the hostilities the Israeli army suffered the following losses in military equipment and weapons: 10 helicopters received damage requiring repair; in addition, 60 to 150 armored vehicles (including up to 30 tanks) were destroyed and damaged. According to O. Granovsky, about 60 units of armored vehicles received combat damage, including 48-52 tanks, of which 5 were irretrievably.

Already on August 16, representatives of Sheikh Nasrallah announced that Hezbollah was not going to disarm and withdraw fighters across the Litani River.

On August 19, however, the Lebanese army began to unfold in southern Lebanon.

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International politics is a very cynical area of ​​relations. Everyone is looking for a weak spot in a neighbor and an opportunity to rebuke him for something. Since the country's geography dictates both its policy and its military doctrine, it is clear that the army has done and is doing the maximum possible for Israel, which is vulnerable within its borders. For several decades, Israel’s neighbors have been planning to destroy Israel as such, which implied the physical death of those citizens who did not have time to escape. Realism now dictates the rejection of such a policy, however, if the Israeli army weakens, at that very moment the old Arab slogans “dump the Jews into the sea” will come to life and someone will want to put them into practice again.

The cynicism of terrorists is manifested in the use of their own civilians as a "human shield." Militant leaders realize that they are weaker than a regular trained army. How can one win? The only way is to arouse the sympathy of the “world community” and seek outside help. Therefore, militants will provoke military operations and sweeps in densely populated areas, which is almost inevitably associated with possible losses among civilians. Therefore, any, even the smallest miss of Israeli soldiers will be used against the whole country 100 percent. So the army becomes an instrument for political manipulation of the opponents of Israel.

We also understand that protracted conflicts cannot be resolved by military means, and sooner or later diplomacy will replace the war. Diplomats and politicians, however, need military victories like air in order to negotiate in a way convenient for them. Since the conventional wars died out, the Israeli army has increasingly become a political tool. Time is perfecting this tool, but it will take many more years for humanity to work out the optimal tactics of the fight against terror, which will include military and non-military components.

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In this war, however, it was from the army that they expected the usual military decisions - and did not wait. The whole country asked: why? Major General Udi Adam resigned in mid-September, without waiting for an answer to this question. In early November, Brigadier General Gal Hirsch, commander of the 91st Division, resigned. On January 17, 2007, Halutz resigned. Another division commander, Brigadier General Erez Zuckerman, resigned in the summer of 2007, almost immediately followed by the resignation of the Israeli military commander fleet Vice Admiral David Ben-Basat, who was not forgiven for the loss of the Hanit corvette.


The army needs to be improved! - the whole country screamed once after the war. It is necessary, it is necessary, the military themselves assented, for this we need 30 billion shekels in addition to the budget over the next three years. This figure appeared already in September and at first shocked the Knesset. So what to do? It was necessary to send the Trophy tanks (Vetrovka), which had been fully developed by that time, to the army, and so on. Major General Gabi Ashkenazi, who had previously worked in the Ministry of Defense as general director, took Halutz’s place in the General Staff.


He was in good standing. Many joked that this appointment was the only right action of Pepper for all his 13 months of leadership of the Ministry of Defense. This is actually not true. During his not very long tenure as Minister of Defense, he launched the irreversible process of adopting a tactical missile defense system designed to protect against unguided missiles with a flight range of 4 to 70 kilometers - the Iron Dome.

The Iron Dome is "the most important project at the moment, and therefore we need to weigh the possibility of defining the development program as an" emergency program "and speed it up as much as possible."

On November 12, 2006, the R&D Department of the Israeli Ministry of Defense instructed Rafael to begin full-scale development of the project. On December 1, 2006, Amir Peretz made a decision: counteraction to short-range missiles is necessary and necessary, this answer is the Iron Dome and it requires external sources of financing. A long-term financing program started working, and the first battery went on combat alert in March 2011.

Unlike the military, politicians did not want to resign. They believed that the war as a whole can be considered almost successful, if we recall what tasks were set at the very first government meeting after the abduction of soldiers:

1. Move Hezbollah away from the border with Israel - performed.

2. To inflict a crushing blow on the military power of Hezbollah and thereby free the north of Israel from the threat of terrorism - partially completed. (Hezbollah hid its losses for a long time. First they talked about 69 killed militants, then about 90, in December 2006 already about 250, and the present number is still unknown.)

3. Apply scare tactics - performed.

4. To force the Lebanese government and state army to control the entire territory of the country or to involve additional international forces in this - performed.

5. Create conditions for the release of abducted Israeli soldiers - not performed.

6. Trying to keep Syria out of the war - performed.

Responsibility lay with the entire cabinet, as the cabinet discussed and voted. But most of the ministers were quickly found: this is not our common fiasco, this is Olmert's fiasco - and they boldly attacked the prime minister.

Olmert was not going to leave the premieres. In the end, he really wanted the best, the army let him down, and he just didn’t immediately understand it. And a smart apparatchik, a former lawyer and mayor of Jerusalem approached his problems philosophically and practically.

The state commission was not created immediately, but with delays. She was led by an elderly judge, Eliyahu Vinograd, a former Tel Aviv court president. He was supposed to be helped by Professor Ruth Gavison of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, political scientist Professor Ihezkiel Dror, and two retired generals: Menachem Einan and Haim Nadel. Olmert managed to delay the creation of the commission, appoint it chairman of Vinograd, who was nice to him, instead of the proposed chairman of the Supreme Court, Aaron Barak, to bring in people he liked, and give Vinograd the mandate to investigate not only the war itself, but also the entire six-year period, starting from the withdrawal of troops from Lebanon in 2000. Olmert rightly believed that all the army mistakes were made precisely in these six years, and he has nothing to do with this. Pleased with the work done, Olmert began to wait for the conclusions of the commission.

He had one strong trump card, although not adequately appreciated by the country's population: the long war did not plunge Israel into an economic crisis, unemployment did not increase, and the shekel did not fall. In 2005, Israel produced $ 183 billion worth of goods, and the average per capita income, although it did not reach European standards, was still at about the level of New Zealand, Greece, Spain and Italy. The commission will work, months will pass, people will calm down, as the situation in the country will not worsen.

Grapes presented his preliminary report in April 2007, eight months after the war. The first passions had already subsided, but this report made Olmert flinch. Having given their due place to six years of declining combat capability of the army (how could Sharon have allowed this to happen?), The authors devoted the bulk of the report to the week of July 12-17, when Olmert and his government made major decisions about the war and made their basic mistakes. Olmert, Peretz and Halutz were directly criticized.

"The decision to respond with an immediate intense military strike was not based on a detailed, comprehensive and approved military plan, based on a thorough study of the complex: characteristics of the Lebanese front."

The word "failure" is mentioned in the report dozens of times.

The IDF got it for the lack of initiative and ingenuity in the face of obstacles. The preliminary report did not offer, and could not directly offer, Olmert and Peretz to resign, although there were hints of this in the report. But the clever former judge Vinograd left the decisive word for the prime minister himself. Olmert took advantage of this expertly. The full final report of the commission was supposed to be presented in the summer of 2007, with accurate maneuvers Olmert delayed this period until January 2008, when the passions calmed down even more. So he remained in his chair for almost a year and in the early autumn of 2008 resigned not because of the war, but because of a police investigation into some of his financial incorrectnesses.

On March 21, 2007, the Knesset Special Commission decided to name the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah the Second Lebanon War.

"The main thing is that we kept our promise to quickly choose a name for the war,"

- said the chairman of the commission, Jacob Edry.

According to a survey conducted by Ynet, 77% agreed that this is the most appropriate name for the latest conflict.

This decision meant that, firstly, the state would have to pay more substantial compensation to the population whose property was damaged by hostilities. Secondly, the military leadership will have to admit defeat in a full-fledged war, and not in a "conflict."


IDF block for participating in the 2006 war

Two and a half years of Olmert’s premiership after the war turned out to be very calm for Israel. Pepper went into oblivion, and the Histadrut stopped paralyzing nationwide strikes, there were practically no Palestinian terrorist attacks in the country, prices, except for gas, remained more or less stable, Olmert didn’t make new disengagement with the Palestinians, about the partition of Jerusalem and the exit from the Golan Heights people did not remember, the Israeli shekel rose against the dollar, the euro and the British pound, Eilat began to receive visa-free tourists from Russia, the northern border ceased to bother.

On the night of September 6, 2007, Israeli aircraft bombed a military facility in north-eastern Syria that was considered "connected with nuclear energy," Assad Jr. built it with the help of North Korea. And Assad did not even move, limited himself to screams. These screams were short-lived, since in the area of ​​the bombed site in Deir al-Zur they really found elements of radioactive uranium, but this is a completely different story ...

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  1. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 31 May 2020 15: 20 New
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    Hesbollah does not forget that the Palestinian Galilee, including Christian Nazareth, in 1948 was written off to the Arabs.
    1. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 31 May 2020 15: 36 New
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      Do you know what white phosphorus is?
      The burning temperature of incendiary ammunition with a charge of white phosphorus and a combustible substance is 800–900 ° C. Combustion is accompanied by copious liberation of dense, pungent white smoke and continues until all phosphorus is burned out or until the flow of oxygen ceases.

      The use of phosphorus munitions leads to fires and individual foci of ignition, while asphyxiating and poisonous gases formed in the foci of fire become an additional damaging factor.

      If it gets on human skin, burning white phosphorus causes severe burns and poisoning. The lethal dose for humans is 0,05 - 0,15 grams. White phosphorus dissolves well in body fluids and, when ingested, is rapidly absorbed. Poisoning is characterized by abdominal pain, vomiting, vomit glowing in the dark ... The corpses of the dead from white phosphorus are black.

      In the civilized world, this abomination is prohibited. Officials of the Israeli government tried in every possible way to deny the use of this weapon, but were forced to admit the facts under pressure from UN experts. But ... But Israel did not sign the ban document. By the way, you can remember this when they start telling you the lies that "Israel is the defender of civilization" again.

      And now, after weeks of bombing, the "brave" IDF still climbs into Lebanon on the ground ... And fucking stupefies from that very Hezbalah. Losses are growing, tanks are burning ... No walk for you. The army sets its tail between its legs and brings down "home" (to the territories occupied by the Palestinians). Hizbalah remains in place and is further consolidated in Lebanon. The Israeli generals mutters something in embarrassment, their politicians continue their stinking fuss. And ... And that's all ..
      1. Professor
        Professor 31 May 2020 21: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        In a civilized world, this abomination is forbidden.

        Not prohibited in the RF. What are you talking about? And in general, the Geneva Convention does not classify these weapons as "prohibited". Learn materiel.
        For example, the use of ammunition containing white phosphorus for target designation or production of smoke screens is absolutely legitimate.

        Quote: Atlant-1164
        And ... And that's it ..

        These are all the conclusions that you can conclude by reading to become an author? request
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 1 June 2020 00: 31 New
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        White phosphorus? )))
        A splinter enters the body and continues to “burn” there, or rather smolder - this is all its charm - a tiny splinter in a thigh is guaranteed to lead the enemy soldier out of battle. The rest is la-la.
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 31 May 2020 18: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      Hesbollah does not forget that the Palestinian Galilee, including Christian Nazareth, in 1948 was written off to the Arabs.

      Israel is the only country in the BV in which the population of Christians is growing. Do you wish the Christian population of Nazareth the fate of Egyptian Copts for example?
  2. Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 31 May 2020 15: 55 New
    +1
    division number 162

    And what does this number mean?
    Strongly hardly ordinal ...
    1. A. Privalov
      31 May 2020 16: 22 New
      -3
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      And what does this number mean?

      The Ha-Plada 162nd Panzer Division is a regular panzer division of the Israel Defense Forces Southern Military District. At that time, the division belonged to the Central Military District, but also participated in battles against Hezbollah from July to August 2006 in the western sector of southern Lebanon and north of Bint Jubail.
      1. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 31 May 2020 16: 29 New
        +5
        This is all, of course, wonderful, but the number does not explain.
        But thanks anyway.
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 31 May 2020 18: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          This is all, of course, wonderful, but the number does not explain.
          But thanks anyway.

          we let the enemy reconnaissance consider our small "divisions"
          1. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 31 May 2020 18: 46 New
            +3
            reasonably :)))
      2. Sniper
        Sniper 31 May 2020 16: 36 New
        11
        Bint Jbail Battles - Fierce battles between the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Hezbollah for the Lebanese city of Bint Jubail during the Second Lebanon War on July 24 - August 10, 2006. According to Arab sources, the city defended up to 150 militants using urban guerrilla warfare tactics.

        Chronology

        On July 23, the Israeli command states that "control over the village of Bint Jbail has been established" [1]
        On July 24, Israeli armored units and a battalion of the Golani infantry brigade, with the support of artillery and aviation, stormed the city of Bint Jubail 4 kilometers from the Lebanese-Israeli border. The battalion commander received shrapnel wounds. The Israelis claim complete control of the city [2].
        July 26 - A special forces detachment from the 51st battalion of the Golani infantry brigade is ambushed in Bint Jubail. Eight soldiers were killed and twenty-five injured. [3] [4] [5]. These are the largest single losses of the Israeli army during the hostilities.
        At five in the morning, the unit commander, Lt. Col. Yaniv Asor, sent his subordinates to comb Bint Jubail. As soon as Israeli soldiers plunged into narrow alleys, Hezbollah fighters opened fire on them from automatic weapons and grenade launchers. In the first seconds of the battle, the Israelis suffered major losses. The battle continued for several hours. Due to the dense fire, evacuation of the wounded was impossible for a long time. The situation was complicated by fears that the militants would try to capture the prisoners or even the remains of the killed Israelis for a subsequent exchange. The evacuation of the wounded lasted six hours under continuous enemy fire. The wounded had to carry three kilometers to a place where a helicopter could land. Four Israeli Air Force helicopters landed one after another in Lebanese territory to pick up the wounded. Under the guise of artillery and a smokescreen, pilots planted their cars only for a minute, so as not to become a target for Hezbollah missiles.

        On the eve of a bloody battle, the IDF command assured full control over the strategically important height in Bint Jubail. “The city is under our control,” said the commander of the 91st division, Brigadier General Gal Hirsch. “The work is practically done, and the terrorists are retreating.” But, as it turned out, about a hundred militants remained in the village. As noted by high-ranking sources in the IDF, before the introduction of infantry into Bint-Jubail, it was impossible to conduct an operation from the air, as several hundred civilians still remained in the village [6]. According to the Israeli command, about 150 militants were killed [5], the deaths of 20 and injuries of more than 50 IDF soldiers were also confirmed.

        The death of so many troops has had a significant impact on public sentiment in Israel. An interview with Golani brigade officers appeared in the Israeli media, claiming that too little effort was allocated to clean up Bint Jubail. During the already outbreak of the battle, air support, they said, was also insufficient. It is puzzling in Israel that army officials reported back on July 24 that Bint Jubail was under Israeli control. Later it turned out that it was meant that the Israeli army controlled Bint Jubail from the point of view of free firing on it from surrounding heights. Also, the Israeli media reported, citing military sources, that during the operation, Hezbollah’s "special forces" consisting of approximately 80 militants were completely eliminated.

        July 28 - Hezbollah militants destroyed 10 Israeli armored personnel carriers in the area of ​​Bint Jubail, which the Israelis have been unsuccessfully trying to capture for several days [7].
        July 29 - Israelis retreated from the city [8].
        August 4 - It is reported that Israeli troops liquidated five groups of Hezbollah militants in the Bint Jubail area in southern Lebanon [9].
        August 7 - the fighting for Bint Jubail continues, where Hezbollah fighters from ATGM killed one tank, killing two Israelis - Major Yotam Lotan and Sergeant Noam Meyerson [10] [11].
        August 10 - a message about the continuation of the battle for the city (19th day) [12].

        ----

        So, 20 days of fighting in urban conditions for one small settlement (population - 30 thousand people), which was defended by 150 people, armed only with small arms and old 1970s design, hand-held anti-tank installations, which did not have any air support, who did not have armored vehicles and artillery. Huge losses by Israeli standards - 20 dead, 50 wounded, heavy losses in equipment - 10 armored personnel carriers, one tank. Despite the fact that the units and formations attacking the city had an absolute advantage in armored vehicles, in people, in aviation and in communications. The infantry formation of the Israeli army - the Golani brigade, the general management of the operation - the commander of the 91st division, General Gal Hirsch, the one who later trained the Georgian army, it should be noted, with a rather sad result.
        1. Sniper
          Sniper 31 May 2020 16: 44 New
          12
          In my opinion, the Israeli political scientist Dov Kontorr most accurately reflected the situation: “The second Lebanon war was not lost by Israel, but it wasted by it ...
          1. Junior Private
            Junior Private 31 May 2020 17: 01 New
            -3
            So Israel for these purposes created, raised, roofed ... and continue to do so.
            Everything goes according to plan.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 June 2020 00: 39 New
          0
          Yes, it was not so. They attacked the usual company of Golani at night, inflicted losses, but the subsequent attack cost Hezbollah 40 corpses, because they fired weakly at the Israelis, immediately stuck to them in order to avoid the use of aircraft, but from close contact with the attack aircraft 25% of the attackers lost their lives.
          The Golanchiks were taken out the next day, the landing force cleaned up the town, made Hezbollah another 50 corpses, killed without loss, but then they were ordered to leave. And then they got Katyushas from a town in Israel))).
          The rest was stupid maneuvering near the n / a - 150 Hezbollons were there or 15 - it is not clear.
      3. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 31 May 2020 20: 32 New
        +8
        Thanks to the author for the three-part article on Israel’s most controversial war.
        It is written in a lively, understandable language, with a fair amount of irony.
        Much in my mind fell into place, but there were no less questions.
        After all, war is such a thing - how many historians, so many opinions ...
        One thing is clear - wars for the sake of achieving political profit do not end well.
        And to be guided after the start of such a campaign by the plans of biased swindlers is a disastrous thing.
        A soldier going on the attack must believe in the correctness of his homeland and the infallibility of the plans of his command.
        But here the IDF did not ask.
        Instructive.
        And for everyone.))
        1. A. Privalov
          31 May 2020 21: 41 New
          +5
          Quote: Paul Siebert
          Much in my mind fell into place, but there were no less questions.

          Those interested in the topic will always receive a friendly and detailed answer to their questions. hi
          1. igor67
            igor67 2 June 2020 10: 32 New
            -1
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Quote: Paul Siebert
            Much in my mind fell into place, but there were no less questions.

            Those interested in the topic will always receive a friendly and detailed answer to their questions. hi

            For me, the Second Lebanese has opened such a negative in relations between people in Israel that it is still ready to go back, that's just the female part of the family here I like
            1. A. Privalov
              2 June 2020 13: 10 New
              0
              War is always extreme conditions. At this time, all feelings are aggravated. You - discovered a negative, for example, I’m positive, but to someone in general, in FIG.
              The relationship between people is a category of absolutely moral character. Neither measure it, nor touch, nor hug ...
              Anyone should live if possible where he is comfortable. hi
    2. A. Privalov
      2 June 2020 17: 05 New
      -2
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      what does this number stand for

      If this is still relevant for you.
      Found a fairly complete explanation from Oleg Granovsky (this is a cool man, an expert on everything and everything in the IDF)
      https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/31763.html
      1. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 2 June 2020 17: 23 New
        0
        Thanks, I'll take a look. hi
  3. Whispering in the night
    Whispering in the night 31 May 2020 17: 50 New
    +1
    It is unclear why the author stubbornly calls the fighters of "Hizzbala" "militants"? Militias then, or just fighters, but definitely not fighters.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 31 May 2020 18: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Whispering in the night
      It is unclear why the author stubbornly calls the fighters of "Hizzbala" "militants"? Militias then, or just fighters, but definitely not fighters.

      Action (according to the "Dictionary of the Great Russian Language" by Vladimir Dahl) - "skilled in battle, especially in solitary; fervent brawler, eager for battle, fights; fighting, brisk person ”

      so do you like it?
      1. Whispering in the night
        Whispering in the night 1 July 2020 12: 36 New
        -1
        Quote: Maki Avellevich

        Action (according to the "Dictionary of the Great Russian Language" by Vladimir Dahl) - "skilled in battle, especially in solitary; fervent brawler, eager for battle, fights; fighting, brisk person ”

        so do you like it?

        Unfortunately, in modern journalism and in simple communication, it is not the meanings from Dahl's dictionary that prevail, but banal human clichés. In this case, the expression "militant" has long and consistently been associated with terrorists. For example, Basayev's militants who seized a hospital in Buddenovsk or militants who blew up the Beslan school. So I’m wondering why the author puts these critters and Hezbollah fighters on the same board?
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 1 July 2020 15: 43 New
          +1
          Quote: Whispering in the night
          So I’m wondering why the author puts these critters and Hezbollah fighters on the same board?


          It seems because of the fact that Hezbollah is being terrorized by a terrorist organization.

          a few examples:

          Since 2008, Hezbollah has taken an active role in carrying out terrorist attacks against Israel at the behest of Iran. The attack on a tourist bus in Bulgaria last July, which killed five Israeli tourists and a Bulgarian driver, was the first "major" success in the current wave of attacks, after a series of failed attempts in several other countries:

          1. Nigeria, May 2013: Local security forces uncovered a Hezbollah terrorist cell that planned to carry out attacks against Israeli targets in the country and other West African states. Authorities arrested three Lebanese citizens who discovered anti-tank missiles, anti-tank mines, grenade launchers, machine guns, hand grenades, tens of thousands of bullets and explosives.

          2. Bulgaria, July 18, 2012: A terrorist detonated a bomb in an Israeli tourist bus in the city of Burgas, Bulgaria. As a result of the attack, five Israeli citizens and a local bus driver were killed. 36 Israelis were injured, three of them were severe.

          3. Cyprus, July 7, 2012: Cypriot authorities arrested 24-year-old Lebanese terrorist Hezbollah, who collected information about Israeli tourists. The terrorist, who, during interrogation, admitted to membership in a terrorist organization, had a Swedish passport with him and collected information to prepare a terrorist attack.

          4. Thailand, January 13, 2012: The Thai authorities uncovered the extensive infrastructure created by Hezbollah over the years to organize terrorist attacks in the region. Security forces arrested Hussein Atris, a Hezbollah terrorist, at Bangkok airport. When he was found passports of Lebanon and Sweden. Another Hezbollah terrorist who also had a Swedish passport was able to escape arrest. The information obtained during the investigation allowed the discovery and seizure of 4,5 tons of chemical materials used in the manufacture of explosives from a commercial building in Bangkok. A month later, on February 14, 2012, the Quds unit attempted to carry out another attack in Bangkok by attaching a makeshift explosive device to an Israeli diplomat’s car with a magnet. This attempt was also prevented.

          5. Turkey, May 26, 2011: Eight Turkish citizens were injured in an attempt on the Israeli consul in Istanbul. The assassination attempt, organized by the Quds unit, was undertaken when Hezbollah members were able to locate the consul. This was preceded by several attempts by Iran and Hezbollah to attack Israeli targets in Turkey in 2009 and 2010.
  4. Cheldon
    Cheldon 31 May 2020 18: 11 New
    +1
    In one of the photos, Berezovsky seemed to me. Very similar. By the way, statistics; how many Christian objects were destroyed?
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 31 May 2020 18: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: Cheldon
      In one of the photos, Berezovsky seemed to me. Very similar

      Jews are all on one face for the pale.
      1. Cheldon
        Cheldon 31 May 2020 20: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Maki Avellevich
        Quote: Cheldon
        In one of the photos, Berezovsky seemed to me. Very similar

        Jews are all on one face for the pale.

        are black Jews? Did not know)) good
        1. A. Privalov
          31 May 2020 21: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Cheldon
          are black Jews? Did not know))

          Here, for example, Jews come from Yemen, Ethiopia, India:

          And this is our minister of repatriation and integration:
          1. ventich62
            ventich62 2 June 2020 11: 16 New
            +3
            These are not Jews, these are people professing Judaism ...
            1. A. Privalov
              2 June 2020 12: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: ventich62
              These are not Jews, these are people professing Judaism ...

              I have to correct you. There are a lot of different Jews in the world. But without going into very deep jungle of philosophical and ultra-religious reasoning:
              A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Jewry in accordance with the religious canon.
              Point.
              For example: I am a Jew, but I do not profess Judaism.
              hi
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              2. ventich62
                ventich62 2 June 2020 17: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: A. Privalov
                A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Jewry in accordance with the religious canon.

                For example (I’m not going to do this), I am not a Jew, but I accept Judaism and the historical homeland joyfully accepts me in its arms?
                1. A. Privalov
                  2 June 2020 19: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: ventich62
                  For example (I’m not going to do this), I am not a Jew, but I accept Judaism and the historical homeland joyfully accepts me in its arms?

                  So.
                  1. ventich62
                    ventich62 3 June 2020 08: 56 New
                    0
                    And if millions of Indians go this route? Where to put them, in Birobidzhan?
                    1. A. Privalov
                      3 June 2020 15: 55 New
                      0
                      Quote: ventich62
                      And if millions of Indians go this route? Where to put them, in Birobidzhan?

                      Good idea! You save Birobidzhan for the Palestinian brothers. At VO they are very fond of them and always a wall for them, and we can somehow cope with the Indians en masse accepting Judaism. lol
                      1. ventich62
                        ventich62 5 June 2020 10: 43 New
                        0
                        The Palestinians are not brothers to me, I’m not interested in your squabbles with them. So how do you deal with potential Indians - Jews?
                      2. A. Privalov
                        5 June 2020 10: 48 New
                        0
                        Quote: ventich62
                        So how do you deal with potential Hindus - Jews?

                        Let them turn. We can handle it. good
                        In fact, converting to Judaism is such a complicated process that it is not worth worrying about the massive invasion of proselytes.
                      3. ventich62
                        ventich62 5 June 2020 11: 02 New
                        +1
                        Yes, I'm not worried, just idle interest. Thanks for the answer.
                      4. A. Privalov
                        5 June 2020 19: 44 New
                        +2
                        Quote: ventich62
                        Yes, I'm not worried, just idle interest. Thanks for the answer.

                        I meant that it us no worries. wassat
                        Today, basically, they try to enter with fake documents.

                        When the Law of Return was created in the very early 50s, it was a mirror image of Nazi racial laws. Then no one thought that someone would forge documents in order to become a Jew. fellow
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  5. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 31 May 2020 22: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: Cheldon
    are black Jews? Did not know)

    This is because this year there is no Eurovision contest.

    The Israeli song will be the fourth in the history of the European music competition, in which there are words in Arabic.
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 1 June 2020 00: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Cheldon
    In one of the photos, Berezovsky seemed to me. Very similar. By the way, statistics; how many Christian objects were destroyed?

    Did not have. The brigade commander of my unit drank tea at the stronghold of Christians, which before that had been mistakenly fired upon)).
  • svp67
    svp67 31 May 2020 18: 44 New
    +2
    Yes, it’s a beautiful and colorful story, but it shows a “medal” “on one side,” a pity that there is no such-class chronicler on the Arab side. It would be interesting to read
    1. A. Privalov
      31 May 2020 19: 07 New
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      it’s a pity that there is no similar chronicler on the Arab side

      Flattered, very flattered by your praise. hi
      In fact, with great desire, in the network you can find descriptions of events by the Arab side. Yes, it will not be easy, for the most part, these are stories about the glorious warriors of Allah, who win lightning victories over infidels. But, if you try hard, you can still find it.
      I already said that in due time, I wrote an article here about the Six Day War based solely on anti-Israeli sources — reports of Egyptian army officers and military experts from the USSR.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 31 May 2020 19: 32 New
        0
        I have already expressed the opinion here that a similar description of this war, made on the Arab side, would not hurt. The author sent me to Arabic sites for this, but there is too specific a manner of presentation, but I would like to see the analysis.
        1. A. Privalov
          31 May 2020 21: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Aviator_
          I would like to see the analysis.

          An analysis of the Arab side and historians of the USSR who were not noticed in love for Israel in the article "The Six Day War. Part 3. Open-minded and impartial."
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 31 May 2020 22: 01 New
          +6
          Quote: Aviator_
          I would like to see the analysis.

          Well, what real analysis can we say when Egypt celebrates on October 6 "Day of Victory over Israel" When the East Bank of the Suez Canal was held by the Israelis from 1967 until the conclusion of a peace agreement with Egypt and the withdrawal of troops by 1982.
          In an address that was broadcast from the bunker where Sheikh Nasrallah has been hiding for many years, fearing liquidation, he delivered a "victorious speech" on the occasion of the 12th anniversary of the end of the Lebanese war in Beirut, which is celebrated as "day of victory over Israel", Sheikh Nasrallah declared Hezbollah an "invincible army" capable of defeating both Israel and the United States.
          That's the whole analysis, and whoever writes something else, at best, if you're lucky, will end up in jail.
          1. Iris
            Iris 2 June 2020 00: 08 New
            +1
            This is a very interesting detail for an orientalist-Arabist. As I understand it, it is not so scary to be defeated - to lose equipment, soldiers, territory - as "to lose face." And the face is "lost" only when the political leader admits his defeat .. A mental phenomenon.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 2 June 2020 05: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: Iris
              As I understand it, it is not so scary to be defeated - to lose equipment, soldiers, territory - as "to lose face."

              The loss is important for everyone, but it must be somehow justified, especially after many years. Another generation has grown up and who will remember "either they stole from him, or he stole it."
            2. A. Privalov
              2 June 2020 20: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: Iris
              .. The mental phenomenon.

              There is nothing to be done. This is the arrangement of the eastern rulers. They adore the popular expression of self-love.
              When Egypt suffered a complete defeat and lost the Sinai Peninsula in 1967 as a result of the Six Day War, Nasser organized a truly gigantic spectacle.
              He, in the first act (June 9), depicted his voluntary resignation with the full transfer of authority to the vice president.
              I made a decision with which I need your help. I decided to completely abandon for the good of any official position and political role and return to the ranks of the masses, doing my duty among them, like any other citizen. Time to act, not grieve. ... All my heart is with you, and may your hearts be with me. May God be with us - faith, hope and the right path in our hearts.

              In the second act, the vice president resigned.
              In the third act, 600 thousand people chanted: “We are your soldiers, Gamal!”
              In the final, on June 10, he triumphantly returned to the presidency.
              1. Iris
                Iris 2 June 2020 22: 24 New
                0
                There is nothing to be done.


                Something imperceptibly reminds of Ivan Vasilyevich, who "renounced" the throne to the lamentations of the boyars))) That's when you remember Blok with his terrible (not in form, of course, but in content) verses - "Yes, Scythians are we! Yes, Asians - we ..."
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 31 May 2020 21: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Flattered, very flattered by your praise.

        For the great and honest work done, THANKS MUCH!
        This period we have lived together.
        It so happened that Olmert became the head of government, accidentally without an election, the head of the Histradrut who could constantly hold strikes Peretz, who followed the exercises with closed binoculars.

        Chief of the General Staff Halutz, who did not understand why the tanks do not fly,
        Well, the whole political leadership, which all the time thought, and what they say in Europe.
        Just forgot what Ben-Gurion said
        “It doesn’t matter what the goyim say, it is important what the Jews do” (the goy is not a Jew)
        Thanks again!
  • Cheldon
    Cheldon 31 May 2020 19: 36 New
    -2
    Here, for example, from the Israeli chat. I can throw off the link.
    "Yes, you're right. Yesterday I had a conversation in our family chat. We all live in different countries, my nephews are studying in Milan and London, at the moment. And so, discussing what is happening now in the States, our youth is outraged behavior of the police, and then they suddenly betray - “by the way, Israel is doing the same in Palestine.” Of course, I could not remain silent, I spoke out, said that this perception was the result of European anti-Israeli propaganda. Nobody supported me) they said, that everyone loves me, accepts my Zionist views, but does not agree, and Israel is the aggressor
    1. A. Privalov
      31 May 2020 21: 34 New
      +2
      Any chat, without a doubt, is the most authoritative source.
      1. Cheldon
        Cheldon 31 May 2020 21: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: A. Privalov
        Any chat, without a doubt, is the most authoritative source.

        Mr. Privalov, I believe that Israel is not an aggressor ...
        1. A. Privalov
          31 May 2020 21: 52 New
          0
          Quote: Cheldon
          Mr. Privalov, I believe that Israel is not an aggressor ...

          Do not take to heart, dear. This is just a joke. hi
          1. Cheldon
            Cheldon 31 May 2020 22: 13 New
            +5
            [/ Quote]
            Do not take to heart, dear. This is just a joke. [/ quote]
            Dear, you have not been to VO for a long time. I consider you a reputable expert. hi With a quote from the chat, I want to show that not everything is calm in the "Danish kingdom". We must work on all fronts. And it is useful to look from the outside in order to coordinate your actions.
  • Professor
    Professor 31 May 2020 21: 08 New
    +8
    For articles offset. good

    Keren Tendler, a helicopter mechanic, was the only female soldier to die in this war.

    On a stretcher, fighters carried her body across Lebanese rear to Israeli territory. Israel did not leave a single dead in Lebanon.

    It was necessary to send to the active army the system of dynamic protection of tanks "Trophy" ("Windbreaker"), which was fully developed by that time, and so on.

    "Trophy" is not "dynamic" defense, but "active"

    They believed that the war as a whole can be considered almost successful, if we recall what tasks were set at the very first government meeting after the abduction of soldiers:

    The "second Lebanese" is considered by the people to be the most unsuccessful, as the "Six Day War" is the most successful. In fact, the results of the war should be considered not immediately after its end, but over time. So the "Second Lebanese" was the most successful, and the "Six Day War" the most failed. What does Israel have in the end first? Silence and tranquility on the northern border of Israel, which could not even dream of The first generation of Israeli children of Galilee (or whatever it is in Arabic) who do not know what bomb shelters and terrorist attacks are. This is not just a victory, it is a colossal victory. The "Six Day War" has entered all history books as a crushing victory for the Israelis, but over the years it has shown how much of a failure it has become for Israel. It led to the Fylystyn problem that has no solution.
    1. A. Privalov
      31 May 2020 21: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      For articles offset.

      Thanks for the kind words. hi
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 1 June 2020 00: 47 New
      +3
      Without a buffer created on Six Day, a war like Yom Kippur would have ended in disaster for the country
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 1 June 2020 06: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Without a buffer created on Six Day, a war like Yom Kippur would have ended in disaster for the country

        not unambiguously.
        The Bar Lion line has served poorly. they began to hold it, although it was not fortified and was intended at the beginning for monitoring posts on the channel.
        Sinai relaxed us slightly.

        Sinai Israel took it somehow uncertainly, as if from the beginning expecting to give it back later.
        this political uncertainty and blunders as the general staff as a whole and the comrade of the Southern Front commander Shmuel Gonen (Gorodish) led to not very successful battles of the first weeks.
        Ariel Sharon and many others showed themselves at a height by spitting on the orders of the General Staff and crossing the channel.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 June 2020 09: 05 New
          +1
          I agree about Sinai, but without the Golan? )))
          1. Maki Avellevich
            Maki Avellevich 1 June 2020 09: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            I agree about Sinai, but without the Golan? )))

            I am not a supporter of giving back the territories captured in the war, much less mine.
            just pointed out the mistakes of the defense of the Sinai Peninsula.
            which by the way still have to return again. hi
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 1 June 2020 09: 53 New
              +2
              With the weakening or radicalization of power in Egypt - certainly
      2. Professor
        Professor 1 June 2020 19: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Without a buffer created on Six Day, a war like Yom Kippur would have ended in disaster for the country

        Without the Six Day War, there would be no Yom Kippur War. you cannot humiliate Arabs, leave them alive and live in peace.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 June 2020 20: 28 New
          -2
          Let's just say that if Syria had as many weapons during the six-day war as during Yom Kippur and the simultaneous blow were dealt by Egypt and Hussein at the end of May, they would have had to explode the vigorous loaf in Tel Aviv. IMHO. Moreover, even the forces that Syria possessed in the year 67 during a coordinated attack by the Arab countries would be praised for causing gigantic losses to Israel, even if their aircraft were gradually destroyed.
          1. Professor
            Professor 2 June 2020 19: 36 New
            -1
            Quote: Krasnodar
            if

            You lived in Israel, served in Tsakhal. You know what the Israelis are capable of when they are pressed. Anyway, the "Six Day War" is a failure, the "Second Lebanese" victory.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 2 June 2020 19: 38 New
              0
              I think both wins
        2. Iris
          Iris 2 June 2020 00: 25 New
          +1
          .. you can not humiliate the Arabs, leave them alive and live in peace.


          As far as I understand, not only the historical path of modern Israel, but also its very existence is an indelible humiliation .. So what's the problem? Humiliation more humiliation less .. winked
          1. Professor
            Professor 2 June 2020 19: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: Iris
            .. you can not humiliate the Arabs, leave them alive and live in peace.


            As far as I understand, not only the historical path of modern Israel, but also its very existence is an indelible humiliation .. So what's the problem? Humiliation more humiliation less .. winked

            What humiliation? This is pure propaganda, fueled in due time from Moscow. Today, the Arabs are not only resigned to the existence of Israel, but also happy about this existence. The Philistines are all across the throat. This is not a solvable problem.
    3. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 1 June 2020 06: 50 New
      +1
      Oleg, I'm sorry, but what is the Phylyst problem? And why is it unsolvable? I'm just wondering, a question without a "double bottom".
      1. Professor
        Professor 1 June 2020 19: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: Russian quilted jacket
        Oleg, I'm sorry, but what is the Phylyst problem? And why is it unsolvable? I'm just wondering, a question without a "double bottom".

        T.N. "Palestinian question" or "Phylistin problem". These are the Arabs of Judea and Samaria (or whatever they are in Arabic), as well as the Arabs of Gaza. There are two solutions:
        1. All cut out.
        2. Assimilate them.

        History does not know other solutions, and therefore this problem has no solution. At least this century.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 June 2020 20: 29 New
          +2
          Or expel. The question is where.
          1. Liam
            Liam 1 June 2020 20: 47 New
            +3
            Come on, you radicalize)
            Arab rhetoric about the destruction of Israel has long been only rhetoric. Neighboring states have been at least neutral or cooperating for about 40 years. The Palestinians themselves have long been settled that Fatah is like these in Gaza. Once in 5 years, stones are thrown for a look and that's all. Hizbal after 2006 it fights with everyone around it, but not with Israel. And Iran alone shakes the air for nothing against Israel, but more from hopelessness than it really threatens. They will also throw off the mullahs and be quiet.
            Tolerate will fall in love shorter.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 1 June 2020 20: 54 New
              0
              Greetings! hi
              Well - rockets from Gaza shoot around the cities every couple of years - unhealthy bullshit.
              1. Liam
                Liam 1 June 2020 21: 03 New
                +2
                hi

                Agree that the trend is a long-term decline in tension. The Arabs have already become accustomed to the idea that nothing can be changed in this regard, and apart from the marginalized radicals, no one even tries to do something. This will pass)
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 1 June 2020 22: 02 New
                  0
                  Everyone really hopes for this)).
        2. Iris
          Iris 2 June 2020 00: 19 New
          0
          History does not know other solutions, and therefore this problem has no solution.


          An excellent solution, unrelated to the above, was proposed, as I heard, by Rehavam Zeevi.
          1. A. Privalov
            2 June 2020 13: 18 New
            0
            Quote: Iris
            An excellent solution, unrelated to the above, was proposed, as I heard, by Rehavam Zeevi.

            His ideas were wonderful, but alas, impracticable.
            1. Iris
              Iris 2 June 2020 22: 30 New
              -1
              And by the way, why do many people consider them impracticable?
              1. A. Privalov
                2 June 2020 23: 21 New
                -1
                Because the Arab world, consisting of 23 countries with a combined population of about 373 million people and a total area of ​​approximately 13 million square kilometers, has not given Arabs who fled after the creation of Israel their citizenship for more than 70 years, respectively, and those who have nowhere to go have nowhere to go. Unless, the Russian Federation will agree to accept its Palestinian brothers in the Jewish Autonomous Region. Its territory is one and a half times larger than Israel.
  • Molot1979
    Molot1979 1 June 2020 06: 58 New
    -2
    The meaningless war. Even if the Jews drove the hezbalons from the border, then what? After a while they would return again. And then what? Absolutely occupy northern Lebanon? What about the UN? Is the world community? And how many times to expand the zone of occupation? All Israelis do not have enough to defend such a perimeter, which is constantly expanding. And in general, Israel has not very good prospects. The conflict here is not interstate, but ethno-religious. The Jews do not know how and do not want to negotiate. While they dominate the local savages at the expense of science and technology. But
    1. Arabs are much larger and they multiply
    2. It is impossible to live in a state of a besieged fortress all the time. Sooner or later, the population will get tired.
    And this is the end of Israel. And since over the past 70 years, Jews did not need the Arabs and didn’t do any good, God help those Jews. The system will throw out a foreign element from itself.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 1 June 2020 22: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Molot1979
      1. Arabs are much larger and they multiply

      Not all Arab countries see Israel as an enemy; therefore, they can multiply on health.
      There is Iran, Syria and Lebanon that Israel interferes with in their dreams of a caliphate.
      And now, who and how is multiplying for 2018
      Israel 1,9%
      Iran 1,4%
      Lebanon 0,88%
      Syria -1,0%
      So this theory does not work
      Quote: Molot1979
      It is impossible to live in a state of a besieged fortress all the time. Sooner or later, the population will get tired.

      Israel is not a besieged fortress, it is an equal state among other states, it seems like you have enemies, but you do not think that you live in a besieged fortress.
      Every Israeli remembers what happened to his people and therefore will not tire of protecting himself.
      Quote: Molot1979
      And since over the past 70 years, Jews did not need the Arabs and didn’t do any good, God help those Jews. The system will throw out a foreign element from itself.

      And what kind of system is this?
      Tell me, if someone does not recognize your country, does it bother you and you only bring good?
      In the same way, Israel is developing its own state, which was created by decision of the UN. And the Arabs abandoned their state because they wanted everything, but with every war they did not gain, but lost. And today they do not want a state, because unlike you, they know Israel is always here, and under this pretext they want money that once flowed in the river, and today they are already tired of everything.
      No need to live on old dogmas. The world is changing.
  • regdan
    regdan 1 June 2020 07: 03 New
    -10
    It has been historically proven that no Israel existed in antiquity. Scientists archaeologists have provided convincing evidence.
    1. A. Privalov
      1 June 2020 08: 14 New
      11
      Quote: regdan
      It has been historically proven that no Israel existed in antiquity. Scientists archaeologists have provided convincing evidence.

      An article on ancient Israelwhich you will definitely write, we will all listen with great interest to the convincing evidence of archaeologists. For the time being, I urge you not to distract readers from the discussion of the current topic. Hope for understanding. hi
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 1 June 2020 11: 38 New
    -5
    from the fact that extremists supported the deployment of the Lebanese army in southern Lebanon, testified that the Hezbollah forces are running out and the group’s leadership is seeking a ceasefire. As the prime minister said then,
    This statement irrefutably testifies that in principle civilized thinking is alien to Israel. Jews perceive any attempt to agree as a weakness, which, as you know, is characteristic of bandits and terrorists. Which is not surprising for the state. adopted terrorism as a state policy.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 1 June 2020 13: 22 New
      +7
      Considering the well-known humanism, civilization and devotion to the principles of humanity, freedom and equality of the Shiite militarized organization, firing rockets populated by the peaceful people of a n / a other country after the abduction of its citizens, this gangster conclusion worthy of punks was extremely erroneous. what
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 1 June 2020 13: 28 New
        -5
        Yes, the constant excitement of polycarpous humanstasis falsely testifies ... But in fact, Hezbollah tried to behave like civilized people, but the bestial Israeli grin buried the peace process. As usual, what’s there.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 June 2020 13: 34 New
          +4
          Stealing soldiers from a foreign country and firing rockets at peaceful cities? Certainly - the top of civilization, perceived by the Israeli beast as a weakness am Like, they came up, weighed the scribble, but after getting in the jaw they began to behave like civilized people ... well, how bullish Israeli does not understand this ...
    2. Hydrogen
      Hydrogen 1 June 2020 13: 28 New
      +5
      What in general should agree with the terrorists? "Hezbolla" needs to be destroyed at the root. In the 80s, "Hesbola" captured the USSR ambassador and assistants, so the KGB did not fiddle with them.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 1 June 2020 13: 36 New
        -5
        Israel went to negotiations. "I did not negotiate with terrorists" and would not agree! But no, in a despicable, bestial manner, he pretended that it was possible to reach an agreement, and then - they went to negotiations, which means they were weakened! Let's press it !! And really, what kind of negotiations? With whom?! It was foolish even to hope for an agreement with the Jews ...
        1. Hydrogen
          Hydrogen 1 June 2020 13: 45 New
          +6
          In 85, when one wing of the "Hezbollah" killed a Soviet representative of the embassy, ​​and threw his corpse to the doorstep, our KGB seized the relatives of the terrorists, cut one of the throats and threw it up with a note in his hand, where they explained that the rest would be the same. The hostages were freed. With them you need only their own methods, they recognize only hard force.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 1 June 2020 15: 07 New
            -5
            And what does all this have to do with the situation? People hit, the KGB hit back. And did not use honest negotiations as an excuse ...
            In general, this whole story stinks prepogan. Two soldiers of the Israeli Army were killed in the performance of military duty. Yes, that happens. Such he, this military duty, when it is executed, perish. How did the Israeli authorities react to this? Hysteria. They replaced the commander, started fraudulent negotiations.
            Do you know who reacts to losses this way? Bandius. They do not come to fight, but shake the patience. And they react to losses with a panic tantrum ... How is it that they don’t fight, how can a miserable sucker, put up with, resist them ?! Israel’s behavior begets contempt and disgust.
            1. A. Privalov
              1 June 2020 15: 58 New
              +8
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Two soldiers of the Israeli Army were killed in the performance of military duty. Yes, that happens. Such he, this military duty, when it is executed, perish.


              Apparently, you didn't bother to read the first article in the "Second Lebanese War" series.

              The conflict was provoked on July 12 by rocket-and-mortar shelling of the fortified Nurit settlement and the Shlomi border settlement in northern Israel (11 civilians were wounded during the shelling), while attacking a border patrol (killing three and seizing two Israeli military personnel) of the Israel Defense Forces on the Israeli-Lebanese border by Hezbollah fighters. In exchange for prisoners (as it turned out later, those killed), Hezbollah demanded the release of their prisoners.

              Do you understand what happened there?

              Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said his government will not negotiate with the kidnappers.
              “Hezbollah has actually started a new war. There will be no negotiations with terrorist organizations. We will not negotiate and will not yield to terrorists. It was so yesterday, it remains so today. "


              The head of the military also accused the Lebanese government of giving Hezbollah complete freedom to act against Israel from Lebanese territory. (At the same time, Hezbollah is represented in the Lebanese parliament (23 deputies out of 128).
              "Israel believes that the Lebanese government is directly responsible for the attacks in the morning in the border area and the fate of the kidnapped soldiers. Israel believes it has the right to use whatever means it deems necessary, and the military has been ordered to act accordingly."


              All your statements, Mikhail, about "fraudulent negotiations" are nothing more than idle speculation that has no basis whatsoever.
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 1 June 2020 16: 10 New
                -9
                Yes Yes. Mr. Ehud Olmert pathetically stated that he would not negotiate. Then, as if nothing had happened, negotiations began to be conducted (Jews are well-known masters of their word, they want to give, they want to take back), apparently due to the fact that they got together hard. But still, the negotiations were used only to deceive. Ugh ...
                1. A. Privalov
                  1 June 2020 16: 25 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  Yes Yes. Mr. Ehud Olmert pathetically stated that he would not negotiate. Then, as if nothing had happened, negotiations began to be conducted (Jews are well-known masters of their word, they want to give, they want to take back), apparently due to the fact that they got together hard. But still, the negotiations were used only to deceive. Ugh ...

                  Besides the slogans of spells and curses, can you say anything intelligible?
                  1. Vitaly gusin
                    Vitaly gusin 1 June 2020 22: 32 New
                    +3
                    Quote: A. Privalov
                    Besides the slogans of spells and curses, can you say anything intelligible?

                    Intelligible?
                    You are mistaken with the address. It is from the category "our mind is seething indignant"
                    And what they boil is taken for reason. So we have what we have.
        2. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 1 June 2020 14: 50 New
          +5
          It was very mean - they shout after all humanly: "I swear by Mom, do not kill!" And the Jews gave a raise and a knee to the head ... well, not cattle, but ??? I had to say - you are handsome, kid, steal people more ... it's the same in terms! fellow
  • Kostya Lavinyukov
    Kostya Lavinyukov 1 June 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    Israeli tank columns moving towards Saluki without infantry escort?
    1. A. Privalov
      1 June 2020 12: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Kostya Lavinyukov
      Israeli tank columns moving towards Saluki without infantry escort?

      The article provides only a summary of the events. In fact, there were forces from the Ha-Plada division (commander Gai Tsur), in particular from the Ikvot ha-Barzel brigade (commander Moti Kidor), as well as from the Nahal brigade, the 934th battalion, commander Shai Elbaz, 931- 932st battalion, commander Avi Dahan, 605th battalion, commander Ran Kahane), supported by the XNUMXth combat engineer battalion. In other words, an almost complete set of forces necessary for such cases.
  • Hydrogen
    Hydrogen 1 June 2020 13: 21 New
    +8
    Well done Israelis, crushing Arabs in spite of no one. Good luck to them in the future.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 2 June 2020 19: 05 New
    0
    Quote: ventich62
    Quote: A. Privalov
    A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Jewry in accordance with the religious canon.

    For example (I’m not going to do this), I am not a Jew, but I accept Judaism and the historical homeland joyfully accepts me in its arms?

    Another homeland joyfully accepts wives, those who joyfully accepted Judaism ...
    Mostly these wives, of course, joyfully seek a new life. But not for their husbands. Although, what am I talking about ...
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 2 June 2020 22: 43 New
      0
      Quote: Shahno
      Although, what am I talking about ...

      I think about it
      Most of the repatriates from the republics of the former USSR who arrived in Israel since 2012 are listed in the official documents of the Ministry of Internal Affairs as non-Jews
      repatriates from Russia - 61,5% are not Jews,
      returnees from Ukraine - 66% are not Jews,
      US repatriates - 5% are not Jews,
      immigrants from France - 4% are not Jews.
      1. A. Privalov
        2 June 2020 23: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Most of the repatriates from the republics of the former USSR who arrived in Israel since 2012 are listed in the official documents of the Ministry of Internal Affairs as non-Jews

        This false data was
        published with political goals were refuted by the Ministry of Internal Affairs after the protest of the NDI party. Check if the network already has real numbers.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 06: 12 New
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          This false data was

          Unfortunately.
          The Ministry of Internal Affairs again counted the Russian-speaking repatriates: non-Jews - more than 60%
          After publications and harsh reactions to the report on the number of Jews and non-Jews among the new immigrants, the Ministry of the Interior conducted an audit and clarified the information. On Tuesday, December 24, was made public adjusted and more complete information.
          In general, the picture has not changed - most of the returnees from the republics of the former USSR who arrived in Israel since 2012 are listed in the official documents of the Ministry of Internal Affairs as non-Jews.
          1. A. Privalov
            3 June 2020 10: 33 New
            0
            The Ministry of Internal Affairs has published revised data regarding returnees arriving in Israel from 2012 to 2019.

            According to published information, contrary to the first publication, only 37,5% are not Jews in Halacha. Initially it was reported that we are talking about 86% of returnees.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 11: 56 New
              -1
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Initially it was reported that we are talking about 86% of returnees.

              I don’t see a topic of argument for me and my whole family has nothing to do with it good
              1. A. Privalov
                3 June 2020 15: 28 New
                -1
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                I don’t see a topic of argument for me and my whole family has nothing to do with it

                In that case, what was your publication about (Yesterday, 22:43 p.m.)?
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 20: 47 New
                  -1
                  Quote: A. Privalov
                  In that case, what was your publication about (Yesterday, 22:43 p.m.)?

                  https://www.vesty.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5648159,00.html
                  1. A. Privalov
                    3 June 2020 21: 47 New
                    -1
                    I did not ask you where you got these numbers. My question was, why (why) do you put them here?
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 3 June 2020 22: 09 New
                      -1
                      Quote: A. Privalov
                      My question was, why (why) do you put them here?

                      In response to
                      Shahno (Paul) Yesterday, 19: 05

                      Quote: ventich62
                      Quote: A. Privalov
                      A Jew is a person born of a Jewish mother or converted to Jewry in accordance with the religious canon.

                      For example (I’m not going to do this), I am not a Jew, but I accept Judaism and the historical homeland joyfully accepts me in its arms?

                      Another homeland joyfully accepts wives, those who joyfully accepted Judaism ...
                      Mostly these wives, of course, joyfully seek a new life. But not for their husbands. Although, what am I talking about ...
                      1. A. Privalov
                        3 June 2020 23: 16 New
                        +1
                        Thank. We drove through. hi
                      2. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 4 June 2020 05: 51 New
                        +1
                        Quote: A. Privalov
                        Thank. We drove through.

                        It's my pleasure good
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 5 June 2020 14: 47 New
    0
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Impartial and impartial

    Everything is correct, as in this film based on real events:
    "Pass Abu Ghorayb / Tangeye Abu Ghorayb"
    https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5870909
  • Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 11 June 2020 21: 51 New
    0
    Quote: A. Privalov
    This false data was

    But is this old message false or not?
    "TEL AVIV, March 25. / Corr. TASS Andrei Shirokov. The Israel Defense Forces electronic intelligence units hacked into the army personnel department server to obtain additional and extraordinary vacations, including paid hotel accommodation. This was reported by the Yediot Ahronot newspaper. "

    The tale about the current as sexy Hamas outwitted the Jews: or BBC will not lie:
    “The heroes of this story were several dozen soldiers of the Israeli army at once. They all made pleasant acquaintances on the network, and then found that they were leaking state secrets.
    The incident went public this February. It was reported that since the end of 2019 girls began to actively write to soldiers on social networks and dating sites. On the move, they were ready to share piquant photos, however, only in a special secure application (or else they’ll leak into the network!). He was offered to download from the link.
    Those who succumbed to persuasion found that their smartphones began to behave strangely. Data transmission was activated, outgoing traffic grew, the camera and voice recorder turned on by themselves. It soon became clear that the "secret chat" with a photo was malicious for remote control of the phone, and the "girls" were Hamas hackers. For several months, they had access to information about the location of the affected devices, photos and phone contacts. "

    https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-51530973
    1. A. Privalov
      12 June 2020 14: 04 New
      0
      It’s quite possible event - they could hack and chat with girls and receive / send pictures.
      The army is a section of society. If it is sick with something, then the army is with it. There is nothing to be done. We have no political officers in the army. There is no one to engage in educational work. So we have what we have. hi