Hypersonic Race: Super Rocket of the Three Leading Powers


DARPA's HTV-2 Artistic Image


On May 15, US President Donald Trump made a curious statement about promising weapons. He said that the United States has a kind of “super-duper-missile”, flying 17 times faster than currently in service. He also remembered Chinese and Russian weaponwhose speed is only 5-6 times higher. Was the USA really able to break away from its competitors in a hypersonic race? Consider modern and promising developments of three countries - industry leaders.

Super rockets and hyper speeds


According to well-known data, the USA and the USSR / Russia began the study of hypersonic aerodynamic flight several decades ago. At the same time, the first experiments using experimental aircraft began, including with an eye on practical application. China joined such work later, only in the two thousandth years. However, this did not prevent him from quickly reducing the gap and entering a narrow circle of world leaders.

To date, three countries have completed basic research and moved on to the stage of developing full-fledged weapons suitable for use in the army. In the coming years, a full-scale deployment of hypersonic systems of various classes in all branches of the armed forces is expected.

New missiles and warheads will go into service with the ground forces, strategic missile forces, as well as the air force and naval forces. However, the specific plans of the countries for development and deployment are markedly different, everyone relies on different directions.

American speed


Current US projects generally go back to the early 2s and the DARPA agency's FALCON program. Its main result was the experimental hypersonic planning warheads HTV-2010, which made two test flights. Launches took place in 2011 and XNUMX and ended with mixed results. Both prototypes developed the required speed, but could not complete the entire planned route.


Infographics for the American project LRHW. Photo Bmpd.livejournal.com

According to the test plan, the HTV-2 was supposed to cover a trajectory of approx. 7700 km with a maximum speed of 20M. Such tasks were performed only partially - both devices developed the desired speed and remained on the trajectory for several minutes. However, long before the end point of the route, the first self-destructed, and the second fell into the ocean. However, in this case, the HTV-2 set a speed record among the experimental developments of the United States.

Further work was carried out on the AHW project. Prototypes of this type developed speeds up to 8M. The LRHW interspecific missile system with the C-HGB planning combat unit is currently being created. Two test launches have already been carried out with a speed exceeding 5M (more accurate values ​​are not reported). The complex is positioned as a medium-range system, which may indicate the possibility of launching at a distance of up to 5500 km. In the near future, the LRHW will go into service with the ground forces, as well as the surface and submarine forces of the Navy.

Of great interest is the project of the air-based missile AGM-183A ARRW, preparing for flight tests. The performance characteristics of this product have not yet been called, which contributes to the appearance of the most daring versions. Individual estimates reach a maximum speed of 20M - but it is not yet clear how much they correspond to reality.

Thus, the United States has the technology to create hypersonic systems with speeds up to 20M and a range of approx. 7-8 thousand km, although not all such opportunities have been confirmed by practice. Successfully tested products with lower characteristics are also sufficient to solve combat missions.

Russian development


Consideration of the Russian hypersonic program should begin with a complex that has passed all the tests and put on combat duty. In December 2019, the Strategic Missile Forces began operating the Avangard product, which was the result of many years of research and testing. According to known data, the complex includes the UR-100N UTTH missile and a special warhead equipped with the Avangard block.


Presumably, the combat unit of the Avangard complex. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

According to officials, the speed of the "Vanguard" on the trajectory exceeds 20M. The flight range is intercontinental. There is the possibility of maneuvering in speed and course. An effective control system is provided, providing quick preparation for the launch and successful solution of the task.

The Dagger complex with an air-based ballistic missile has been brought to the stage of experimental military operation. Using the MiG-31K or Tu-22M3 carrier aircraft, it is delivered to the launch line, after which it flies along a ballistic trajectory with a height of at least 20-22 km. Maximum speed - more than 10M, range without taking into account carrier parameters - 2000 km.

An anti-ship missile system Zircon with a 3M22 missile is being created for the Navy. To date, he began testing on offshore platforms, and in the near future is expected to be adopted. During the test launches, Zircon developed a speed of 8M. The range, according to various sources, reaches 400-800 km. A missile with a container is placed in the cell of the 3C14 universal launcher used on many ships. It provides reliable destruction of large surface ships.

In the past, several large development projects were carried out in our country, the results of which are now used in real projects. There are technologies that allow you to accelerate equipment to speeds of about 20M and send to intercontinental range. More importantly, all these developments are brought, at least, to the tests.

Chinese secrets


China is in no hurry to reveal its secrets in the field of advanced technologies, but others do it for it. Thanks to foreign intelligence and the media, it became known that there was a project with the designation WU-14 or DF-ZF, which provides for the construction of a missile system with a hypersonic warhead.

Hypersonic Race: Super Rocket of the Three Leading Powers

MiG-31 with a dagger. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

WU-14 flight tests began in 2014. To date, up to 10 launches with various results have been carried out. The Ministry of Defense of China confirmed the information about the first launches, but claimed that they were purely scientific in nature. According to foreign estimates, the DF-ZF block on a trajectory develops a speed of no more than 10M. It was previously claimed that ballistic missiles DF-21 or DF-31, capable of providing a maximum range of up to 3 or up to 12 thousand km, can be used as a carrier. Last year, the DF-17 rocket was first shown, with the help of which a range of up to 2500 km is provided.

According to well-known data, the DF-ZF unit and the DF-17 missile entered service with the Strategic Missile Forces of China and are now on duty. Perhaps other hypersonic weapons are being developed, but no information is yet available about them.

Hypersonic race


Technologies for creating hypersonic aircraft, incl. The three leading powers have warheads for missile systems, and they continue to develop this direction. There is a clear leader, followed by other countries. By the totality of technical characteristics and the successes achieved, they should recognize Russia.

It was our country that not only created and tested, but was also the first to put several models of promising weapons on duty at once. Even US officials admit lagging behind Russia. In second place can be put the PRC, whose army has so far received only one hypersonic complex. However, given the dates of adoption, China is the first.


The front line of the Chinese complexes DF-17. Photo by Nevskii-bastion.ru

The Russian hypersonic program has already produced three types of weapons for solving various tasks, from operational-tactical to strategic. In addition, large ranges of speeds and flight ranges are covered, which is ensured by a more complete use of available technologies. China cannot yet boast of such successes, although in the near future we can expect the appearance of its new projects.

To the displeasure of D. Trump, the United States so far is in the position of catching up. They have several promising models, but not one of them has yet reached combat duty. In terms of speeds and ranges, the situation is no better. Samples intended for adoption have not yet bypassed competitors. As for “superpuperraces 17 times faster than others”, it is expected in the arsenals only by the middle of the decade at best.

However, the American president can be pleased. The hypersonic race of the leading powers does not end. It seems that she is only approaching her most active phase. Thus, competing countries have the opportunity to continue work, get the desired results and set new records, ensuring strategic national security. And at the same time to get an occasion for pride in their science and technology.
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  1. Same lech 27 May 2020 05: 33 New
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    During the test launches, Zircon developed a speed of 8M. The range, according to various sources, reaches 400-800 km. A missile with a container is placed in the cell of the 3C14 universal launcher used on many ships. It provides reliable destruction of large surface ships.

    It is unclear how the target designation of the affected moving objects at long ranges will be made under the conditions of enemy use of electronic warfare.
    The United States has clearly lagged behind Russia in the hypersonic weapons race, and I believe they will try to close this vulnerable window with an arms race in space, trying to draw Russia into it, following the example of Star Wars ... another attempt to ruin our country with excessive spending on advanced weapons. what
    1. Sevastiec 27 May 2020 06: 21 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      . Another attempt to ruin our country with excessive expenditures on advanced weapons

      Or maybe you should not repeat the spreading cranberries? The USSR had an economy comparable to the USA and no arms race could ruin it. Just think: if you even suddenly, at some point, don’t have enough money for weapons, you simply turn off a number of programs and start saving, but you don’t ruin your country because of this.
      All these silly tales about the "ruinous" Afghanistan and the arms race are only suitable for rubbing people with clip thinking.
      The USSR collapsed solely and exclusively because the ruling elite wanted it. Was work done with her from the side of Western structures? Most likely yes, but the fact does not change. It’s just that each of the leaders of the union republics wanted to go around the country. Count: here you are just a party functionary, albeit of a high rank, and here is the whole Turkmen Pasha, for example, you can say the king.
      1. Same lech 27 May 2020 06: 26 New
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        Or maybe you should not repeat the spreading cranberries? The USSR had an economy comparable to the USA

        It’s worth ... I perfectly remember how the USSR kept half the world at its own expense ... delivering its weapons to anyone who got nothing in return ... and constantly writing off billions of dollars in debt to this world ... today's Kremlin also writes off billions of dollars to our former friends for beautiful eyes ... and then we wonder why there is no money for the operation for sick children ... they constantly chase requests for donations to them on the TV ... it's a shame for the state.
        1. neri73-r 27 May 2020 10: 18 New
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          Quote: The same Lech
          It’s worth ... I perfectly remember how the USSR kept half the world at its own expense ... delivering its weapons to anyone who got nothing without getting anything in return ..

          Not everything is as simple as yours. We got influence in these countries and dependent government, resources of these countries. The West left from there, who was forced to increase spending trying to resist us in their colonies. I agree with the statement - the elite has rotted, it has been outbid. And deceived.
      2. venik 27 May 2020 11: 29 New
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        Quote: Sevastiec
        Or maybe you should not repeat the spreading cranberries? The USSR had an economy comparable to the USA and no arms race could ruin it.

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        COMPARATIVE? Well yes! "Match"- it was possible! Only now, what came out of this" comparison:

        Those. The gross domestic product in the USSR in the last decade of its existence has been in 2.0 - 2.4 times lessthan the USA!
        PS Of course, it would be extremely naive to believe that the collapse of the Union and the economic collapse that followed were due to EXCLUSIVELY devastating military expenditures that dragged us into it (there was a whole complex of other, related and unrelated reasons), but its role (and the role is very BIG) this fact played!
        So, what would you be careful with "stamps" such as "common cranberries"! Better study economics and history at your leisure !!
      3. Sckepsis 2 June 2020 22: 17 New
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        The USSR had an economy comparable to the USA

        Unless in your dreams.
    2. Stas157 27 May 2020 06: 27 New
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      . given the dates of adoption, China is the first.

      Without cartoons, I don’t believe it! But Russia was the first to create animations (about the presence of hypersound) and showed it to everyone. Thus reliably staked out a place for itself in the leaders (for cartoons at least).

      I want to recall that the creation of hypersonic weapons for Russia was not in itself, not a natural development of the arms race. Putin announced the creation of hypersound as an asymmetric response to NATO’s eastward expansion. A very cunning plan that destroys all the plans of the enemy.

      So, it is obvious that in the near future hypersound will appear (appeared) in the USA. What, then, will our grandmaster fend off a “pistol at the temple” (NATO launchers at the borders)?
      1. Same lech 27 May 2020 06: 29 New
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        Without cartoons, I don’t believe it!

        And I believe ... read what the foreign press writes on this topic ... why are they combing themselves in the USA so much about Russian competition ... if they are afraid, then they know what they are afraid of. smile
        1. Stas157 27 May 2020 06: 54 New
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          Quote: The same Lech
          Without cartoons, I don’t believe it!

          And I believe ... read what the foreign press writes on this subject ...

          Yes, I wrote about China - it creates hypersonic weapons, but it doesn’t show cartoons about it. Indeed, obviously without this the process is not complete !!))

          There is no doubt that Russia will succeed in creating hypersonic weapons. If only according to the results of the hypersonic race, she would not be an outsider.
        2. Kalmar 27 May 2020 08: 54 New
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          Quote: The same Lech
          just afraid means they know what they are afraid

          Or their military simply found a good reason to absorb a certain number of billions in countering another terrible, terrifying threat.
      2. KCA
        KCA 27 May 2020 07: 13 New
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        How what? Zircons on mobile soil complexes and Iskanders
      3. Ka-52 27 May 2020 08: 53 New
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        Without cartoons, I don’t believe it! But Russia was the first to create animations (about the presence of hypersound)

        then it’s not clear why you climbed into this section at all. They would go to hang out under the heading "Opinions", there with your nonsense there is where to roam
        So, it is obvious that in the near future hypersound will appear (appeared) in the USA. What, then, will our grandmaster fend off a “pistol at the temple” (NATO launchers at the borders)?

        bullshit. The basic idea of ​​hypersonic weapons (this media term is applicable) is the inevitability of causing critical damage to the country by the aggressor. This was a response to US attempts to create missile defense belts with interceptor missiles to reduce reciprocal damage from Russian nuclear weapons to an acceptable level.
        Therefore, the United States will have a hyperweapon or not - nothing changes. They will grab theirs anyway.
        1. Stas157 27 May 2020 09: 10 New
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          why are you even climbed

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          Would go tusit

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          with yours stupid things

          Quote: Ka-52
          delirium mare

          Well, I do not pretend to be genius and do not impose my opinion. And then, as you write, it's just a flood of a small squabbler.
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      4. venik 27 May 2020 11: 48 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        Without cartoons, I don’t believe it! But Russia was the first to create animations (about the presence of hypersound) and showed it to everyone. Thus reliably staked out a place for itself in the leaders (for cartoons at least).

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        Well, what can you do?
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        I want to recall that the creation of hypersonic weapons for Russia was not in itself, not a natural development of the arms race.

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        Yah? AND WHAT'S THAT?


        An experimental hypersonic laboratory ("GELA") was developed and tested back in the late 80s (that is, under the Union!) ...... I’m silent about other developments - you don’t even know a damn thing about it !
    3. ccsr 27 May 2020 12: 07 New
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      It is unclear how the target designation of the affected moving objects at long ranges will be made under the conditions of enemy use of electronic warfare.

      I assume that this will be done by entering operational intelligence data into the flight mission before launch, which will take into account the speed and direction of movement of the mobile group. Then, at the site of the supposed intersection of this grouping and the rocket, an air (ground, surface) nuclear explosion of high power will be carried out, the shock wave of which will hit objects located even several kilometers from the place of detonation. Accuracy of hit with a charge of 8-10 Mt is not a priority - this is obvious. That is why doing too complex a warhead with homing at the current stage of arms development will be too costly, and it is not a fact that we will get good results at the exit.
      1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 16: 02 New
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        laughing
        And, is that the special from the GSVG whose intelligence reports indicate the EXACT coordinates?
        Take the soldier, find the VUS there and put it here.
        I wrote to you a couple of months ago about this.
        And do not make people laugh with pseudo-crazy words.
        You don’t even pull on the chest.
        1. ccsr 27 May 2020 18: 41 New
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          Quote: NAVIAVI
          And, is that the special from the GSVG whose intelligence reports indicate the EXACT coordinates?

          Do not lie, verbiage - it is the naval ones who sent us reports where the coordinates of the carrier ships representing the threats to the GSVG were indicated. And they indicated the coordinates - I remember it well.
          Quote: NAVIAVI
          I wrote to you a couple of months ago about this.

          You never know what nonsense the next amateur is, if he himself admits:
          I am not special in this, just logic.

          Quote: NAVIAVI
          You don’t even pull on the chest.

          The next naval commander drew - we passed, burn on, like another stupidity:
          Russia has such an opportunity only at the expense of airplanes and airplanes.
          These systems are inferior to the Strategic Missile Forces not only in power, but also in vulnerability, both from the defeat of the enemy, and in the systems for controlling these funds from the enemy's electronic warfare. That's why the Strategic Rocket Forces is our everything, and the rest is just an appendix to them.
          1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 19: 30 New
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            Yes, everything is clear with you.
            This is the clown who taught Mishu Bezlyudov (Bez 310) aircraft carriers to sink.
            He downloaded the VVVAUSH in 1978, went from the navigator of the Tu-16, Tu-22 M2 to the navigator of the regiment. He graduated from the chief of staff of the 310 regiment, Tu-142.
            He flew many times on an aircraft carrier, and the clown ensign proved something to him.
            VUSovka where?
            1. ccsr 27 May 2020 19: 46 New
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              Quote: NAVIAVI
              This is the clown who taught Mishu Bezlyudov (Bez 310) aircraft carriers to sink.

              He wouldn’t have time to take off if we couldn’t open the preparations for the attack on us.
              Quote: NAVIAVI
              He graduated from the chief of staff of the 310 regiment, Tu-142.

              He was just a performer of what was lowered to him from above.
              Quote: NAVIAVI
              He flew many times on an aircraft carrier, and the clown ensign proved something to him.

              Relax the kettle - flying in peacetime it will not take off after the start of the exchange of nuclear strikes. So the dreams of some military men that they will be attacked by aircraft carriers after the outbreak of war with the United States can only indicate an inadequate assessment of the future scenario of the war.
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              VUSovka where?

              Relax Svidomo-you are here specifically yanking, apparently working at the rate. Why do you need my VUS, especially since it changed during the service?
              1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 20: 51 New
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                One is recorded on the military officer’s military ID card.
                VUS- specialty ... SHE !!! Again a puncture? (Why do you need my VUS ... laughing ).
                You don’t even know that.
                And here I laugh at the fake military and trolls on the salary.
                1. ccsr 28 May 2020 10: 50 New
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                  Quote: NAVIAVI
                  One is recorded on the military officer’s military ID card.

                  With which you quit - you are not in the subject here, because the VUS can change during the service.
                  Quote: NAVIAVI
                  VUS- specialty ... SHE !!! Again a puncture? (Why do you need my VUS ...

                  The abbreviated word "VUS" has different root words: "military", "accounting" and "specialty". Therefore, if it was only a civilian specialty, then we can consider it to be a feminine gender, but if the main thing is “military registration”, then this is a masculine gender. However, you are just verbiage, just began to discuss the kind of reduction.
                  Quote: NAVIAVI
                  And here I laugh at the fake military and trolls on the salary.

                  Learn to write correctly in Russian, an "expert" in the Russian language so that you don’t look like a clown on a salary.
    4. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 21: 44 New
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      Yes, America is behind ... laughing
      I’m watching a live broadcast of Space X’s launch.
      Ahead in trampolines. Hi Rogozin!
      1. ccsr 28 May 2020 10: 51 New
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        I’m watching a live broadcast of Space X’s launch.

        It was canceled, and reported in advance - change the training manual, verbiage.
      2. 6895 28 May 2020 21: 19 New
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        Yes, America is behind ...
        Directly asking for a continuation ... from Ukraine. For a long time there were no such clowns, I thought I was cured.
  2. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 05: 38 New
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    As I understand it, the point of such a weapon is to destroy the key objects (for example, control) of the enemy in the shortest possible time.
    The same US has the opportunity to place carriers as close as possible to targets in Russia.
    Poland, the Baltic countries ... maybe Georgia and Ukraine.
    Russia has such an opportunity only at the expense of airplanes and airplanes.
    Cuba, Venezuela will not consider.
    Like it or not, the Americans obviously won.
    You can rely on Kaliningrad and "we will surely be in Europe" ....
    But, there are not so many carriers to cover both Europe and the states. But you can quickly go to heaven, as the supreme vanguard.
    I am not special in this, just logic.
    Well, the race will begin, but where is the certainty that the next cut for your own will not work and you get another mace?
    1. Same lech 27 May 2020 06: 20 New
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      Well, the race will begin, but where is the certainty that the next cut for your own will not work and you get another mace?

      The arms race is already a fact ... the world has again begun completely difficult ... well, but cutting budget money in any country is connected with systemic sores of the political system .... you just need to intelligently control this process. smile
      1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 07: 34 New
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        The question remained about the number of missiles, targets and the possibility of their destruction ....
        The author of the article did not mention on whose basis the avant-garde blocks (block) are located, how many missiles received from Ukraine, and is there a replacement?
        About the cut. And what to do if it is started, financed and controlled by the sawmills themselves? laughing
        1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 08: 02 New
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          The Extreme Mechanics website has an interesting discussion of all the hyper ...
          http://extremal-mechanics.org/archives/25019
          From there.
          1. fortnight 27 May 2020 08: 34 New
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            The source causes distrust. The logic in the arguments of the author is primitive and in some places contradictory. Conclusion - Russophobe fantasies, self-discipline and self-abasement - this is the main meaning.
            1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 11: 25 New
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              Yes, you write anything. Put yourself cons laughing
              As they say in Ukraine, "The pan can be removed from the head, and cotton wool in the head is forever."
              Believe not believe .... your right.
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                MMX 27 May 2020 16: 51 New
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                Quote: NAVIAVI
                Yes, you write anything. Put yourself cons laughing
                As they say in Ukraine, "The pan can be removed from the head, and cotton wool in the head is forever."
                Believe not believe .... your right.


                A small clarification - according to the rules of the Russian language, it is correct to say not "in Ukraine", but "in Ukraine".
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                    MMX 27 May 2020 17: 32 New
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                    If you do not understand, I’m talking about the rules of the Russian language. According to which it is right to say - "In Ukraine."

                    Link to the source - trash good
                    1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 18: 32 New
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                      All that contradicts the nested trash program.
                      Judging by the trash, how are you going to celebrate the victory holiday on June 24?
                      Why not the 22nd? The most that. laughing
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                        MMX 27 May 2020 21: 04 New
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                        Quote: NAVIAVI
                        All that contradicts the nested trash program.


                        The source is, as I understand it, LJ ??? That is, in Ukraine now they study Russian in LJ?

                        Why not the 22nd?


                        Where they often zig, there is a 22nd holiday. It turns out a holiday in Ukraine.
          2. Ka-52 27 May 2020 09: 11 New
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            The Extreme Mechanics website has an interesting discussion of all the hyper ...
            http://extremal-mechanics.org/archives/25019
            From there.

            reducible excerpts are again and again a profound scratching of the nape of the neck over divergent circles near the water: the brick seems to be rectangular, and the waves are round ....
            Your writers do not even know what was the purpose of the launch. Perhaps these were flight tests with MGM
            1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 12: 00 New
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              But they should not know.
              The hype and cartoons about the maneuvering warhead.
              There was a report on launch from the bunker with the participation of Putin.
              Those meeting at the training ground did not observe anything maneuvering.
              Paragraph.
              All I wanted to write.
              1. Ka-52 27 May 2020 12: 41 New
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                The hype and cartoons about the maneuvering warhead.

                The hype was raised by the media that used this news feed. A common occurrence for the media. "Cartoons" is a meme for grumbling fools who should remember cartoons on the topic of SDI.
                There was a report on launch from the bunker with the participation of Putin.

                Start, bunker and Putin absolutely does not mean that at this moment there should be a real start-up of a full-fledged complex. Putin has plenty of such symbolic launches. In fact there is a test program and it is scheduled for years to come from where, where and for what the test will be conducted.
                Those meeting at the training ground did not observe anything maneuvering.

                just for curiosity: did they have means of objective control? How, besides their own eyes, could they observe the maneuvering of the block in the atmosphere, at an altitude of 50 km and a speed of about a dozen Machs?
                1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 16: 08 New
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                  You are probably an artist of cartoons.
                  As Mina likes to write, "Do not break the Batuds with zeal."
                  Yalda maneuvers on the FINAL site. When you enter the PSA, it is LIGHT. You do not need anything other than eyes and comparisons with past launches.

                  Yes, Putin is full of everything. And a video for Stone as well. laughing
                  You should know about the test WARNING in accordance with international agreements.
                  And cartoons for people like you who didn’t serve in the army either.
                  1. Ka-52 28 May 2020 04: 20 New
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                    You are probably an artist of cartoons.

                    I'm probably an artist of cartoons, and you're probably a stupid troll. So we figured out the definitions. The discussion on the sim has been exhausted.
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                    Yalda maneuvers on the FINAL site. When you enter the PSA, it is LIGHT.

                    for horses this is certainly not interesting (for them, with the complete collapse of their missile-building program, it is more important that the cow dies from the neighbor), but others may be interested: a simple calculation shows that for evading the kinetic hbc interceptor, the evasion amplitude can not exceed 0,03 degrees in azimuth! In just 60s to complete the evasion maneuver at a speed of 10M, the warhead of the Vanguard will fly about 150 km, and the deviation from the original meeting point will be at least 120 meters. The horse’s arguments are interesting: how did VNA learn to Ukraine on the eye to determine the evasion of the device flying V = 10 km / h, at h = 000-40 km, with a deviation reaction of up to 50-0,03 degrees at the heading?
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                Quote: NAVIAVI
                But they should not know.
                The hype and cartoons about the maneuvering warhead.



                Here two questions arise:
                1. "meeting on the ground" watched cartoons?

                There was a report on launch from the bunker with the participation of Putin.


                2. Or did they watch a report in which they showed cartoons?

                You really decide.
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          Quote: NAVIAVI
          The question remained about the number of missiles, targets and the possibility of their destruction ....
          The author of the article did not mention on whose basis the avant-garde blocks (block) are located, how many missiles received from Ukraine, and is there a replacement?
          laughing


          Does Ukraine have hypersonic weapons ??? However.
          1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 17: 27 New
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            In a decent society, this is called "jumping from the topic"
            What rockets did Vanguard put on, where did they come from in Russia, and who transferred them?
            Everything is in the public domain.
            Well, what to speak with you if you do not know the basics?
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              MMX 27 May 2020 17: 57 New
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              Are these the same missiles that were produced in Moscow?
              No, you understand, I am well aware of Ukraine’s desire to at least somehow cling to high technology, including through the "supply of missile carriers." Humanly, I even have compassion, believe me.
              1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 18: 30 New
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                Jumping from a topic does not cancel laughing
                You are our sick.
                You can send your regret to the relatives of 16 thousand killed in the Donbass.
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                  MMX 27 May 2020 20: 52 New
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                  Quote: NAVIAVI
                  Jumping from a topic does not cancel laughing


                  Well, that is, the missiles are still Russian. Well, that decided.

                  You can send your regret to the relatives of 16 thousand killed in the Donbass.


                  Are you talking about civilians who died at the hands of the Ukrainian military, who unleashed a war with their own population?
                  The emoticon next to your message is very graphic.
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                      MMX 28 May 2020 08: 21 New
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                      Quote: NAVIAVI
                      Are we scumbagging again?
                      Girkin look, a participant in the events. He will explain everything to you.


                      Girkin watched. He clearly said that the Boeing was shot down by the Ukrainian side.

                      All in sanctions for the Crimea and the Donbass, and there.

                      Well, sanctions are such a thing - today they are, and tomorrow they are not, but Crimea will remain. Maybe Donbass yet.
            2. 6895 28 May 2020 21: 15 New
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              Finally, the roof of the forelock has moved off. Sala ate an expert. And what is a trampoline, probably a trampoline.
  3. Thrifty 27 May 2020 05: 40 New
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    Cyril, the “Dagger” is a quasi-ballistic missile, and the Chinese have no de facto hypersonic missile weapons! hi
  4. Polite Moose 27 May 2020 08: 16 New
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    It makes no sense to measure hypersonic aircraft without reference to the flight altitude. How to determine who has more progressive technology, who has reached 8M per 3km. or the one who reached 20M at 25km? And the rate of fall of the BB BR is a priori hypersound. For objectivity, you need to compare like with like. In this case, the speed achieved by the aircraft during horizontal flight in the atmosphere at a certain height, at a certain range. Otherwise, it will turn out, as in that joke:

    Guys in the pub.
    - Vasya, how long is your organ?
    -38c.
    -Yes good to lie.
    -My swear! I just measured it yesterday ... with a Thermometer.
    1. venik 27 May 2020 14: 52 New
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      Quote: Polite Moose
      Guys in the pub.
      - Vasya, how long is your organ?
      -38c.
      -Yes good to lie.
      -My swear! I just measured it yesterday ... with a Thermometer.

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      good
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      Quote: Polite Moose
      And the rate of fall of the BB BR is a priori hypersound.

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      good drinks
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      Quote: Polite Moose
      It makes no sense to measure hypersonic aircraft without reference to the flight altitude. How to determine who has more progressive technology, who has reached 8M per 3km. or the one who reached 20M at 25km?

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      Only one question: what about "M" (Mach number is the speed of sound), what is it - on all heights same ??? what bully
      1. Polite Moose 27 May 2020 15: 19 New
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        Quote: venik
        Only one question: what about "M" (the Mach number is the speed of sound), is it the same at all heights ???

        In relation to the topic under discussion, the difference in the speed of sound at an altitude of 3 km. and 25 km. not so great. About 33 m / s. The dog is buried in the fact that out of all applicants for the possession of hypersonic technology, someone has the opportunity to achieve a speed of 5M + per 25 km. and someone is 3 km away. hi
        1. venik 27 May 2020 16: 57 New
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          Quote: Polite Moose
          the difference in the speed of sound at an altitude of 3 km. and 25 km. not so great. About 33 m / s.

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          Something like this! good But the trick here is not to fly at low altitudes and hypersound (ultimately both the “Dagger” and “Zircon” perform most of the flight at very high altitudes), the trick in the other is the ability to realize a CONTROLLED flight (with active maneuvering) in dense atmosphere !!! And this is just a “question from questions”! Ours approached the solution of problems and the creation of a mathematical model of the flow around aircraft at hypersonic speeds in the second half of the 20th century, but the Americans were able to solve this problem relatively recently - somewhere in the mid-2000s .... And BEFORE this, they poked like "blind puppies" - their experimental "hypersonic" or fell apart at the initial stage of the flight or lost stability and controllability .... The result - as they say "on the face": "Vanguard" - on the database, "Dagger" - in the experimental military operation, "Zircon" completes the test ..... But the Yankees have not yet left the band of "trial and error" ....
          So Trampushka remains “filled with the nightingale”: “... 17 times faster than anyone in the world” ..... (this comes out 68 Machs (? !!) - “tram-pam-pam or bla-bla-bla” ! wassat A commercial will soon agree to create a "hyperlight" rocket! laughing And what? Will become with him! Moreover, he is neither in higher mathematics, nor in physics - "not a belmez" !! ( fool ).
          Well, something like this. hi drinks
  5. U-58 27 May 2020 08: 54 New
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    By the end of the decade, all the powers mentioned will be armed with a whole range of hypersonic weapons. Work to protect against it will be in full swing.
    But weapons are the dragon that constantly requires new girls to feed on ...
    This is especially true for the US military industry.
    Consequently, the next promising echelon of weapons deployment is space. Near and far, including the surface of the Month.
  6. Operator 27 May 2020 09: 04 New
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    The USA in the field of hypersonic weapons (both motor and planning) are in a position with a bare ass - for a quarter of a century, the American industry has not been able to create a single workable model in the form of:
    - Managed ICBM / SLBM combat unit;
    - Planning winged block of ICBM / SLBM type Russian "Vanguard", adopted into service;
    - guided warhead of an air-based ballistic missile such as the Russian "Dagger", put on pilot combat duty;
    - a hypersonic cruise missile with a ramjet engine of the Russian Zircon type undergoing the final stage of testing.

    American counterparts have remained at the level of mossy abbreviations with which the Americans and Russophobes fed by them trump. Judging by the technically illiterate statements of Donald Trump, the US in hypersonic weapons lagged behind the Russian Federation forever.
    1. Vita vko 27 May 2020 10: 09 New
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      Quote: Operator
      for a quarter of a century, American industry has never been “shmogla”

      In a situation where Russia is surrounded on all sides by US and NATO military bases, hypersonic weapons for Americans are absolutely waste. The delivery time of an F-35 nuclear bomb or cruise missile from an airfield 100 km from the Russian border will in any case be faster than a hypersonic missile flying several thousand km to the United States.
      1. Fedor egoist 27 May 2020 13: 42 New
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        Quote: Vita VKO
        The delivery time of an F-35 nuclear bomb or cruise missile from an airfield based 100 km from the Russian border will in any case be faster than a hypersonic missile flying several thousand km to the United States

        It is unlikely that US aviation will be so close to the Russian border in the threatened period. Americans know how to count, and no worse than our military know that at such a distance the "delivery" of our missiles by the MLRS division to their airfield takes less time than it takes to prepare for the departure of the same F-35))
        Well, it’s for the best - it’s not worth it to disgrace in the XNUMXst century with free-falling nuclear bombs)) and the USA does not have another TNW ....
        1. ccsr 27 May 2020 18: 52 New
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          Quote: Fedor Egoist
          It is unlikely that US aviation will be so close to the Russian border in the threatened period.

          Quite right - all carriers of the US nuclear weapons are counted individually, and therefore the flight of at least several strategic bombers to Europe will immediately put our entire military machine in motion. And this means that they will immediately understand that the US territory will be erased into nuclear dust even before a massive take-off of aviation in Europe begins.
  7. Operator 27 May 2020 10: 54 New
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    Quote: Vita VKO
    hypersonic weapons for Americans absolutely waste

    You confuse God's gift (the opinion of American citizens) and scrambled eggs (the opinion of the American military-industrial complex), but my comment was about something else: New World residents who originally specialized in tail spinning and growing corn are never expected to lead the arms race anymore - a stream of foreign experts to rogue America has run dry forever bully
    1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 11: 27 New
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      Hello Andrey...
      You're still the same laughing
      1. Operator 27 May 2020 11: 30 New
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        The main thing is that the USA is changing rapidly - the time is not far off when the third Russian squadron will have to be sent to them (to protect cowboys and corn breeders from the terrible Chinese militarists) bully
        1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 12: 05 New
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          Andrey, it would not hurt you to ride in the USA, to Europe .... to see how they live, to live in families. They have accepted it.
          And then broadcast stories from the time of Stalin and Khrushchev.
          I watched all this in the 90s and 2000s. I went and compared.
          The USA is changing, Russia is not changing.
          As Upper Volta was with missiles, it remained. (M. Thatcher). The rocket, however, is smaller, but with cartoons, paradise and the middle class of 17 sput.
          1. Vadim237 27 May 2020 14: 45 New
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            “Russia does not change” - Yes, you’re blind, since you went somewhere and watched something already two decades ago, nothing stands still.
          2. Operator 27 May 2020 14: 46 New
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            I have been to the USA and Europe many times on business trips and tourist trips. My wife lived in the family of a corporate functionary in the field of scientific exchange.

            You are prompted correctly - America of the 1990s is not at all like America of the 2020s. And by 2050 (when Latinos and African Americans outnumber whites), Brazil will be solid.

            And in general: "Ukraine is Tse Canada" (C) laughing
            1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 17: 32 New
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              Did you turn on the vanka again?
              Well, I’m not Timokhin and Klimov, I won’t call names.
              You yourself know everything.
              1. Operator 27 May 2020 18: 11 New
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                Chu, another outskirts of Canada laughing

                Abydna, yesaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
                1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 19: 25 New
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                  Andryusha, mockery and humiliation on a territorial and ethnic basis, this is called decent people in fascism. Well, or Nazism.
                  I'll copy it for myself.
                  Timoshin will rejoice at such a passage laughing
                  1. Operator 27 May 2020 22: 08 New
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                    Fascists / Nazis mock at racial or, at the extreme, nationality. Therefore, Russians - residents of the territorial outskirts of Russia, who foolishly call themselves "Ukrainians", are not even worthy of mockery laughing

                    By the way, who is Timoshin?
            2. ccsr 27 May 2020 18: 57 New
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              Quote: Operator
              You are prompted correctly - America of the 1990s is not at all like America of the 2020s. And by 2050 (when Latinos and African Americans outnumber whites), Brazil will be solid.

              I also see approximately the same picture, because the US government will not stop the process of migration and drug trafficking, because they cannot stop this now.
              Quote: Operator
              And in general: "Ukraine is Tse Canada" (C)

              All Ukrainians secretly though appear in Canada, just to not see that mess that they have going on. So for them, Canada is like the promised land for Soviet Jews - a fair wind, as they say ...
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            Quote: NAVIAVI

            The USA is changing, Russia is not changing.
            As Upper Volta was with missiles, it remained. (M. Thatcher). The rocket, however, is smaller, but with cartoons, paradise and the middle class of 17 sput.

            wassat
            Have you been in Russia for a long time?
            1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 17: 30 New
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              In Moscow it’s better, beyond the MKAD it’s bad.
              Was, before the war .... something changed after the introduction of the sanctions?
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                MMX 27 May 2020 17: 45 New
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                Quote: NAVIAVI
                In Moscow it’s better, beyond the MKAD it’s bad.
                Was, before the war .... something changed after the introduction of the sanctions?


                What war? In Afghanistan? Only a policeman can seriously argue that the RF has not changed since the 90s, 00s and even 10s.
                1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 18: 15 New
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                  Yes, changed, changed.
                  Don't worry you so laughing
                  1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 18: 16 New
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                    Well, the bridge was completed ... yes.
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                    Yes, there is everything laughing
  8. Dzafdet 27 May 2020 16: 12 New
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    The USSR collapsed Gorbachev with its prohibition. There was a hole in the budget of 25 billion rubles, which there was nothing to close. The economy was spreading and the country fell apart. Now Mishenka modestly lives in England with party money. which he privatized.
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    Quote: Ka-52
    reducible excerpts are again and again a profound scratching of the nape of the neck over divergent circles near the water: the brick seems to be rectangular, and the waves are round ....
    Your writers do not even know what was the purpose of the launch. Perhaps these were flight tests with MGM

    Andrew! And here I agree with the opinion of the comrade NAVIAVI (Valentine). We may not know what was the purpose of the launch, but the fact that after four launches of the product known to us as 15Y71 it was put into service indicates that it was unlikely to pass ... a full cycle of tests. Taking into account the fact that our "sworn friends" in that area have a "keen eye" - a radar with a range of about 4000 km, conduct tests during which the product will perform the entire maneuvering cycle. To show what the product is capable of for the enemy - one must be especially gifted.
    Therefore, the publication in Extra Mechanics is probably close to reality. In the final section, the product flew in a straight line. And if it did make some evolution, it was insignificant even at the very beginning of the flight (after the completion of the active section, when the product was still out of sight of the Cobra Dine radar
    But the whole interest of the product is not how it can react there in space, but its maneuvers at the final stage, in the atmosphere.

    Quote: Ka-52
    Start, bunker and Putin absolutely does not mean that at this moment there should be a real start-up of a full-fledged complex. Putin has plenty of such symbolic launches. In fact, there is a test program and it is scheduled for years to come from where, where and for what the test will be conducted.

    And what does this mean then, if after about a week after that it was announced that a regiment with the Avangard product was put on combat duty. What is a symbolic start when there were 4 in total ???

    Quote: Thrifty
    Cyril, the “Dagger” is a quasi-ballistic missile, and the Chinese have no de facto hypersonic missile weapons! hi

    Actually the "Dagger" AEROBALLISTICAnd not QUASIBALLISTIC rocket.
    The Chinese at last year’s parade showed their DF-17 rocket, with a hypersonic glider (they claimed)
    1. NAVIAVI 27 May 2020 18: 26 New
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      I feel better.
      I can write ALL I want. Well banned for the twentieth time, then laughing
      Before the tests, an alert passes, and this infection is already there.
      However, he wrote.
      Air reconnaissance flights
      http://samlib.ru/s/semenow_aleksandr_sergeewich333/razvedka.shtml
      There was no “maneuver” there.
      Plain bullshit for domestic consumption.
      My photo.
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    But generally bored with you.
    One writes nonsense, others comment on him.
    Yet.
  11. Kostadinov 28 May 2020 14: 39 New
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    yet another attempt to ruin our country with excessive spending on advanced weapons.

    The arms race did not ruin the USSR in the 50s after the war, but rather accelerated the growth of both arms and the economy. But in the 80s, when parity beat for a long time to reach, only then the race "ruined" the USSR.
    The arms race does not "ruin" today not only China, but also the small DPRK, but the USSR "ruined" its resources.
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    Someone said that Russia is not participating in the arms race because it has already won it. As I understand from the article, only the Russian Federation has real weapons. The rest have cartoons ...