Russian soldiers get more calories than American

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation launched a television commercial on television that claims that the army’s supply has become much better. And the number of calories Russian soldiers even ahead of the Americans. And the organization "Soldiers' Mothers" recognized that the soldiers are no longer kept in a hungry body, as it was in the nineties of the last century.

According to the press service of the military department, according to the order of the Ministry regarding the food supply of military personnel, which entered into force on June 21, 2011, recruits receive food three times a day. And since January 2012, soldier food is carried out by civilian organizations. According to representatives of the General Staff of the Russian armed forces, the transition to outsourcing was the result of a significant improvement in the diets of the personnel.

Every day, soldiers get about 4400 calories, which greatly exceeds this figure in the armed forces of the United States, Germany, France and the UK. The new diet necessarily includes fruits, juices, and the well-known barley, on the contrary, has disappeared (although it should be noted that it is very useful for the body!).

In addition, soldiers may eat more in certain conditions: with additional load during exercises, physical training, multi-kilometer marches, as well as in mountainous conditions and during the cold season.

It should also be noted that a greater number of calories are received by conscripts - paratroopers and in the naval forces fleet. Four meals a day are provided there, with the exception of holidays and weekends.

If we compare the food in the Russian army with the American one, then in the US Army the daily ration should not exceed 3600 calories. If we are talking about increased load in physical training - it is 4-5 thousands of calories, and if you are training in mountainous areas with equipment - this figure increases to 6-7 thousands of calories. All these conditions are spelled out in the recommendations on the standards of food separately for each branch of service: land, air force and naval forces. These recommendations are based on perennial studies that were specifically commissioned by the military command. Moreover, there is even a special research institute within the structure of the United States Department of Defense.

All standards are spelled out on average. For example, in the US Army, the average weight of a male military is 79 kg with a height of 175 centimeters, women - 62 kg with a height of 163 centimeters. If a person does not fit the parameters, a diet is specially selected for him. If a soldier has problems with overweight, his daily diet should not exceed 1500-1600 calories.

In addition, conditions are specifically spelled out when an increase in the amount of nutrition is necessary. This is not only cold weather, when the ration needs to be increased by 5-10 percent, but also hot, when the diet is increased by 2,5-10 percent. Indicated and the amount of nutrients that should be contained in food. Thus, the amount of fat should not exceed 30 percent, proteins - 10-15 percent, carbohydrates - 50-55 percent.

If we talk about the Russian army, then there is a diametrically opposite problem - it is undernourished recruits. Their exact number is unknown, since the statistics are maintained autonomously by the military units of military units. Of course, it is obvious that the reason for this state of affairs is not the army, the root of the problem lies in the families of military personnel.

Currently, soldiers who have problems with underweight, additionally issued products. They are grouped in a separate category, which, like the very tall soldiers, has a separate cook. According to representatives of the military department of the Russian Federation, for soldiers with a weight deficit, they first carry out a course of reinforced nutrition, and the level of physical activity for them is significantly reduced. And only after the weight returns to normal, such recruits can begin classes along with the rest.

Recently, more and more complaints from commanders related to poor physical training of soldiers. Therefore, the Ministry of Defense decided to increase the time for conducting physical training of personnel to 25 hours weekly. In this connection, the daily routine was also changed: the hour of afternoon nap was turned on, and the night rest was increased by half an hour. Also, soldiers can rest longer on weekends. Such changes have become possible partly due to the switch to outsourcing, since the focus is on military training, and not on daily work assignments.

Positive aspects of the transition to outsourcing are also noted in the organization “Soldiers' Mothers”. According to her representative, human rights activist Valentina Melnikova, at present there are practically no complaints about poor nutrition, unlike 1990's, when the soldiers were starving, because there was no money for their food, but to be honest, they simply did not exist. She notes that one of the few problems of the new system is the emergence of queues in the canteens, but such cases are not very frequent and are solved almost without conflict. V.Melnikova also says that the only part of the military personnel who may be dissatisfied with the food, are those soldiers who have to work in the field. This, as a rule, exercises, work on the disposal of ammunition at the sites. Here there may be interruptions in the supply of food.

Recall, the new system of domestic security of the Russian army - outsourcing - appeared in the framework of the general reform of the armed forces. Its essence lies in the fact that instead of the rear men and nachprodov, suppliers and civilian chefs began to deal with food supply problems. Of course, there are enough problems with the new system - either poisoning or lack of products ...

It is noteworthy that the monopoly in providing the armed forces with food has become ... Voentorg. It was he who concluded the main part of contracts with outsourcing companies, which now have the task of providing soldiers with food. The new system is well established in the central regions, especially in the elite parts. If we talk about the periphery, here the situation is somewhat different. The fact is that to find professionals who could prepare high-quality food for the soldiers a little. And a soldier is already forbidden to engage in such work.

Thus, if outsourcing is quite suitable for the capital, then it is a big problem for the province, because not the quality of food comes to the forefront, but the desire to "get into" the allocated funds, especially since the new conditions have increased the cost of maintaining one fighter . So, if earlier this amount was 115 rubles, now it has grown to 195 rubles.

Therefore, many people believe that with the abolition of army cuisine, the government and the military department hurried a bit, changed the “bike for a scooter”. If we switch to outsourcing, then state control should be at the level. Otherwise, they will both steal and steal ...

Materials used:
http://www.bfm.ru/articles/2012/07/22/armejskaja-eda-horosho-nakormlen-k-boju-podgotovlen.html
http://www.arms-expo.ru/049057054048124050053049051048.html
http://www.aif.ru/food/news/150921

Comments

[Bort radist]

The first days all these cereals do not climb into the throat! But with a lack of weight on the demobilization, no one left. Sweets were not enough in the diet, they got it through the tea room. In training on the day of jumps, additional noodles with stew. When enlisted in the crew (AN-12) switched to the reactive norm, it’s generally a fairy tale chocolate, fruits, waitresses There was a problem with the delivery of the duty officer to the airfield - everything cooled down, in winter they warmed them up in a stoker at hand, in summer everything was at room temperature. There were thermoses on guard. In general, a lot depends on the unit commander. Where he is a "native father" there is a diet.

[back]

I misunderstood something - the author of the article by his name wants to tell us all about some advantage in the nutrition of Russian soldiers over American ones ?!
Is this a joke or are you serious?
It would be worthwhile to show a photo report from American military canteens for a clearer picture of the realities of the service of American soldiers. That would be honest

[lotus04]

Quote: back

It would be worthwhile to show a photo report from American military canteens for a clearer picture of the realities of the service of American soldiers. That would be honest

Please.

[lotus04]

Quote: back

It would be worthwhile to show a photo report from American military canteens for a clearer picture of the realities of the service of American soldiers. That would be honest

Please.

[moral]

Yeah, apparently the nutrition problems in the Russian army are simply unsolvable for a given period of time in principle. Something needs to be changed in the heads of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense

[Region65]

however, do not forget that the American soldier eats beautifully served polystyrene, rubber, soya feces, replacing meat and milk, as well as a bunch of antibiotic and GMO meat and legumes. Somehow, pin-dosnik-warriors let it slip that if they fall into the hands of Russian dry land, then they just get some kind of holiday ....

[Professor]

Russian soldiers get more calories than American

Optical illusion is occurring in me, however, American soldiers on smaller calories look rednecks, and Russian soldiers on large calories are goners ...
Maybe it's not just about calories, but also about proteins, carbohydrates and vitamins?

[leon-iv]

Prof. not all and do not always look like goons. We just love to take photos of goners so it’s easier to break through with pity.
+ feature of service in the armed forces.
The tankers have their own mabutu and their own landing.
For example, a friend of mine always recruits short but sinewy and lean guys in the company.
In intelligence, similarly, wild boars are not needed.

But vitamins are often not enough.

[Professor]

We just love to take photos of goners so it’s easier to break through with pity.

Not without this, however, under Philadelphia there was a military base and the impression that they were there in the majority of goons and bullies. This probably happens because there are no norms on the appeal where they mow all who fall under the arm, and under the contract they try to choose according to their health.

PS
From personal experience I will never forget the outfits in the kitchen (I saw what fed us) and borsch. Since then, I never eat borscht again.

[leon-iv]

that they are there in most goons and bullies
And what's the use?
Endurance a priori lower
Hiding is worse.
+ I also want to note the climates in our country are somewhat different.
A hobby friend showed photos from the competitions that our paratroopers held with amers in Serbia. So during the march there, the amers ran far worse than ours. But ours look like children against their background.
If I get through to a person, I’ll ask you to throw the focus.

[Professor]

But I’m not saying that it’s better, it’s just for the calories ...

[leon-iv]

by the way calories
Everyone, as you know, has different organisms and assimilates these calories differently. In fact, they are considered directly stupid because
1 Different metabolisms
2 Different climatic zones
3 Different food traditions. Here is a banal example with soups without them in our area is very sad especially in cold weather. Or with porridges similarly. For example, I tried different dry packs. I like IRP-1 the most. I tried American, French, Spanish, German.

[Region65]

here ... I have a sidekick - urgent in the Kuril Islands in motorized rifles, then the praor school in Khabarovsk and the contract in signalmen, then the contract in the FPS, then the contract in the riot police ... recently I went on a shift with me to a day a pound of hunting sausages, a loaf of white bread, two boxes of milk, a pound of biscuits, a chocolate bar and two packs of doshirak .... and here's a paradox for you, devouring it all in one snout per day, the guy weighs 50-55 kilograms by force :)) ))) metabolism however)))

[moral]

leon-iv - you must admit that Russian food standards, especially for infantry, are ridiculous. Especially for fruits and milk. How many more decades does the Russian rear services need in order to finally understand this very simple thesis and limit oneself to product theft?

[biglow]

тProfessor,
only those amers are far over twenty and often over thirty, and comparing them to 18-19 year olds is probably not worth it. have you now immigrated to Switzerland?

[back]

leon-iv,
I would like to hear from you the layout of vitamins in the diet of a Russian fighter

[leon-iv]

They were not and never will be, it is purely individual.
Nutrition rates can be found here http://base.garant.ru/55172034/

[back]

PROFESSOR, you can give a soldier a day two loaves of white bread with margarine and half a kilo of fat - and talk further about the advantage of calories over common sense and healthy nutrition for young people. However, in the armies of civilized countries, in which increased attention is paid to this issue, they do something different. Special scientific centers and monitoring posts in this matter were created there. I would like to see the Russian response to the enemies.

[Professor]

Here is our answer to Chimberlen.

[keylogger]

add to the picture

just for 99P

[moral]

Professor - in the photo, most likely, Mr. Serdyukov’s dry bed

[leon-iv]

I want to surprise you, but the diet is thought out very carefully just like that at the research institute.
The question is whether it is being implemented is another subject for discussion.

[Cesar_Xnumx]

Bicus eat all winter is also considered in the research institute ?!

[Akela]

Yes, everything is just a professor - you can even feed coal or oil in general - there are even more calories!

[lotus04]

Quote: professor

and Russian on big calories are goners ...

Interestingly, and who wants to "go out" with our "goners" one on one? What to fear, they are "goners".

[moral]

lotus04 - fighters, most likely the Ministry of Internal Affairs, depicted in the photo - have nothing to do with conscript soldiers from the armed forces

[moral]

Professor - this is not an optical illusion, it’s just incorrect information of the Russian military on this issue. In general, no one restricts an American soldier in food - take as much as you want, except for fulfilling the physical standards and the clause in the contract, according to which he can be punished, up to dismissal, for being too overweight. Therefore, you see, especially in the US Marine Corps, real boars. The recipe is very simple - high-quality and plentiful choice of food and strict physical requirements.
Oh, and also about American calories - we don’t forget that there are fast food points on each base, and these guys know a lot about fast and super-calorie meals)

[M. Peter]

Quote: professor

Russian calories on large calories goners ...

About 7-8 years ago I worked in Russian Railways, assistant engineer, in operation.
Our brigade had a permit to drive the "mansion". Well, accordingly, escort goes with the mansion. I looked at the "goners" that accompany such trains. At the "goner" probably one hand would be enough for any pumped-up nigga to roll his head like a chicken.

[cth; fyn]

Lard hairy, porridge of tarpaulin many calories no vitamins.
He was often ill until he ate that I was lacking in vitamins, bought vitamins and did not get sick anymore, well, almost, only abrasions, scratches.

[Nester]

I remembered the joke: They argue the Russian general and the American, whose soldiers are better served. Amer says: We have a soldier on a monthly allowance can buy himself something useful. Russian: But ours doesn’t need to buy anything, it’s on full state support. Amer: And our soldier has 5 sets of uniforms. Russian: But ours doesn’t need so much, it has one uniform that replaces yours 5. Amer (already with malice): But our soldier gets 4000 Kcal. in a day!!!! Russian: And here you are, NATO face! A soldier cannot eat 3 bags of rutabaga a day!

[kotdavin4i]

In vain, barley was removed, a tasty thing if cooked correctly, and about the number of calories there was such an anecdote in the early 90's.
International gatherings are underway, and the American boasts to the Russians that they say their soldiers eat up 4000 thousand calories per day, which our officer says: You sound Americanos - you won’t eat a pearl barley per day.

[leon-iv]

tasty thing if cooked properly
Here is the key phrase. And if not????

[urzul]

And if not, then it's better not to remember;)))

[VAF]

Quote: leon-iv

Here is the key phrase. And if not????

And if not, throw more stew! Going with a bang, I still sometimes ... nostalgic, so Roy takes half ... though I still fry it in fat. Well and all kinds of herbs and garlic!

[leon-iv]

Yes, I myself am not against pearl barley porridge which my wife is cooking, but the military cooks share ................. this is beyond good and evil
Especially barley with fish ((((

[VAF]

Quote: leon-iv

Especially barley with fish

Brrrrrr ... do not spoil the appetite before dinner, +!

[Captain Vrungel]

Yes, barley, if prepared correctly, is delicious. Grandma stuffed cabbage rolls with barley and meat, stuffing pepper with barley and meat. Delicious, juicy. Rice is resting. The quality of food has two components. From what products and who will cook. There are talents to make licks out of nothing and "food destroyers".

[Armata]

All only barley from the service remember? And who ate potatoes in canned food? This is much worse. But in principle, even in 90 we were fed well. And about sweets we even forgot the taste at 3. The sweetest thing is Shiloh.

[dreamer]

Quote: Steam Train

And who ate potatoes in canned food? It's much worse

There was a cadet 1984-1988 sublimated (dried by some technology) potatoes. Horror Tasteless, with some kind of smell and dirty brown-black, I remembered now and distorted the entire muscle memory

[Armata]

Quote: dreamer

sublimated (dried by some technology) potatoes are.

She is in the 5 liter cans. I still remember her taste, rare rubbish. So barley is the food of the gods was then, And pasta so it is generally higher than paradise.

[lelikas]

And at one time we were also fed Bundeswehr bread from cans, we had to do something with it, but they gave us that.

[ALPETSEM]

I remember potatoes in jars and dried, and as for the barley, I’ll say, they made pilaf with wild garlic, i.e. fry + onion + stew fry in an autoclave (we have KP-75), then pour washed pearl barley into this simmering meat and vegetable mixture, fill it with water 2-3 cm from the cereal level, screw the lid 30-40 min over medium heat, then pour it finely chopped wild garlic (in the mountains it was full from mid-May to mid-June) add salt + butter and leave for 5 minutes over low heat to lick, you lick your fingers, I even liked this pilaf more than rice. And they also made a coffee drink from pearl barley, roast it to brown, grind it and make it, not an espresso, of course, but as they say in fishless fish and cancer.

[Odessa]

ALPETSEM,

pour in the washed barley,

And if you pre-soak it in water for several hours, then the cooking time is reduced, soaked pearl barley and other cereals, semi-soft boil faster.

[moral]

Oh, horrible gastronomic perversions)

[urich]

article title is just super! AAAA !!!
Return the combined weapon to the army!
We will surpass the entire planet in calories!

[back]

I totally agree that healthy eating is being replaced by fat. Private traders in food supply does not at all mean a way out of the food collapse in the Russian army. Nutritional standards are miserable compared to NATO. And on the quality of the products themselves, there is a minimum of info. Plus the "window dressing" familiar to all of us for visitors.
Bottom line: reforms - per teaspoon per hour

[leon-iv]

Nutrition standards are pathetic compared to NATO.
You read these standards in my opinion quite on the level.
Yes and the quality of the products themselves minimum info
If you take canned food there should be everything according to TU and GOST.
Bottom line: reforms - per teaspoon per hour
aa well yes from Ukraine it is more visible.

[biglow]

back,
our soldiers are distinguished by endurance and without all these excesses in nutrition. The dangers of excesses for soldiers were known in the ancient Roman army

[flanker7]

Unforgettable taste!

[Srgsoap]

Just look at the link how they eat and all questions will disappear

http://armyboots.ucoz.ru/news/kak_pitajutsja_armii_drugikh_stran/2011-07-23-144

[amoR]

By the link above, I confirm. The bourgeois canteens that I saw look exactly like that. Divided distribution into sections (burgers, first courses, main courses, desserts, fresh juices, pastries, etc.). At the same time, it is surprising how they manage to count the calories and utility of the diet of the average soldier.

[wolverine7778]

Yes, they do just that, at least in the US Army. Otherwise, who will go. Moreover, they are also trained for emergency conditions, they can eat worms, snakes, mice, grass (and they know which one)

[moral]

wolverine7778 - and here are these photos? Well, it's just some kind of sensation for the Russian-speaking Internet) This is just a normal holiday in the dining room in Iraq, so there are so many exotic fruits and desserts. War is a troublesome thing for the American rear

[moral]

Nobody will accurately calculate, so a fighter takes food for himself as much as he wants. The calculation will be simply incorrect. The average temperature in the hospital. Yes, and there is a difference in energy costs between the marine during the hellish week and the staff computer sergeant

[borisst64]

"According to the order of the Ministry regarding food supply for military personnel, which came into force on June 21, 2011, conscripts receive food three times a day."

You might think they used to get it three times a week.
But about 4 meals a day in the Airborne Forces surprised, we need to find out in more detail, something is unclear here.

[VAF]

Quote: borisst64

But about 4 meals a day in the Airborne Forces surprised, we need to find out in more detail, something is unclear here.

When we were in school, it was 4 meals a day on flights, the so-called second breakfast at the start (though it was half from this breakfast), but it turned out four times!

And the instructors do not, everything is standard there!

[Bort radist]

We threw a special group from the field airfield. Yes, all lean or fat but wide shoulders!

[Pacifist]

I want to throw my spoon of honey

About a year ago, before hoarseness, they argued with a friend (he lives in Germany and came to visit his relatives) who are better fed. He was not too lazy and called a friend who was going to Moscow with a request to get a NATO dry pack for comparison ... as I recall, I still laugh, and then there was a hysteria ...
They brought it, they got me our new rations, I won’t lie. I don’t remember the marker, but the stew / porridge / jam and compote are dry + biscuits and some kind of dessert (it didn’t come to him) .. for the purity of the experiment, we prepared everything according to the instructions and agreed to eat first ours, and then them ... ate ours, in general, restrainedly praised ... proceeded to their ration ... I’m looking choking ... I’m telling them, will you add salt on the outsole with a bag? they sent me in the ass ... in short threw rations ... it is impossible for a normal person to eat ... well, or for someone who is not used to such a synthetic feed .... like this ... in general, I think our ration is better. Only two significant points are inconvenient heating and packaging.

[VAF]

Quote: Pacifist

In general, I think our ration is better

You think absolutely right, +!
But we don’t have bags, but in tubes, well, you understand why, so all the main dishes and side dishes are a bang, well, juices are so good .. no questions asked, but trouble with the first courses, you don’t eat cold ones, just go home, but if you warm it up .. that the kharcho is normal, and all sorts of soups are the same, but borscht .... not ale .... even very ... not ale !!!

Therefore, when working from home, it was always possible to change upon receipt. but if from the operational ... then they brought straight boxes there and .... lucky no luck

[leon-iv]

By the way, I recommend for all kinds of trips to take our IRP very well suited. And if you take the potato, then you can weld from the IRP-x porridge an excellent soup. And without him, neither Tudu nor Syud.
And in dry rations normal meat and stuff
here is a review
http://twower.livejournal.com/600019.html

[leon-iv]

NATO does not have a single dry ration in all of its own.

[Pacifist]

I agree with the remark.
I’ll clarify how it will be given whose country they brought in, but I definitely remember the American marking on one package. I didn’t look about the rest. Maybe, for example, the situation with different producing countries, different components of the soldering. In general, I will add infa.

[sevsor]

I remember our feeding. He served urgently from 1969 to 71 in Hungary, in Budapest, Matiashföld district, (can anyone respond). A huge canteen, feeding in 2 shifts, tables for ten people, two cauldrons were placed at the end of the table - one with so-called borscht (naturally with mixed fats), the other with porridge, often with millet or barley (it is clear that cooked by "skillful "chefs). And, finally, the most delicacy - a bowl with pieces of BOILED LAT filled with gravy, red. Bread is a plate of white, and the blackies. A piece of butter. For two years I have not been able to touch the main delicacy. Many got used to it, even the guys who were from Tatarstan and Bashkiria. First, not in any, and then - hunger is not aunt ... For all the time, once they fed meatballs with buckwheat and good gravy (then the then Defense Minister Grechko came), the second time meatballs also with buckwheat (some major Moscow political Chief). Since then, I have a disgusting attitude to all cereals. Upon his return to the Union, he asked for food who served at home - no one had such a thing. Yes, something surged ... Sorry.

[moroz2200]

Our plate with pieces of bacon was called "Polar Bear Meat" !!!! ))))

[dreamer]

Quote: moroz2200

Our plate with pieces of bacon was called "Polar Bear Meat" !!!! ))))

We, too, and small boiled fish "Mass Grave"

[flanker7]

And we had a large one - the outfit in the dining room soaked the fish in the bathroom for 24 hours - the usual dinner of a tank regiment

[flanker7]

Haha, 20 years later GSVG 86-88. it was like that. Meat of "polar bear", disgusting "black man" and cutlets - 1 time!

[k1995]

93-85 Taman division, the same garbage but there was no call November - height 182 weight 96, March - weight 69. The numbers seem to be the same, but I really wanted to eat, but how good apple toothpaste is on bread

[moral]

sevsor - such feeding is the relationship of commanders to soldiers. In the US, this will not work in any form

[Democrat1986]

I don’t know, of course, like everywhere else, but I serve in one part of the Moscow region so we don’t have any civilians. Food is prepared by all the same soldiers and military cooks, the same pearl barley and bicus from which it carries urine. Periodically, I am in the same part of the same canoe in another part of the Moscow region. As the soldiers went to the outfits and go. But in the field, food is so much food. And the meat is full and you can eat

[moral]

Your part is simply not indicative

[leon-iv]

I serve in one part of the Moscow region
W / H number?

[Democrat1986]

16660 Udelnaya village

[leon-iv]

Special communication FSO if I'm not mistaken?
Then you are out of luck Slavyanka you will not have any in the near future. Then I recommend influencing the cook

[ALPETSEM]

That's really a sensible remark, from the simple cook of conscripts, the efforts of the military team can create such a chef, Parisian restaurateurs will envy ...

[moroz2200]

At the outpost, the cook quickly learned to cook: he ate 30 of his freshly cooked "crap" himself !!!! And I didn't repeat any more mistakes !!!))))

[ALPETSEM]

Absolutely, and besides, each outpost could offer his own recipes, which we just did not invent. what kind of culinary masterpieces didn’t get out of norm No. 1, plus mushrooms, berries, fish, and game, not taken into account by the food industry’s natural resources. All the same, the frontier post is the best type of military formation, a minimum of hazing, a maximum of fraternity and mutual assistance, the post is like a native home ... still pulls, I want to see what it has become that has been built ...

[moral]

The main thing is that this outpost should not be in the mountains or in the resort North

[lelikas]

Despite the fact that he served in 91-93 - they fed very much. There were only civilians, theft was suppressed (at least large), I ate my face,
at the same time, a friend who served across the street from the house earned gastritis and other "bonuses", their parents carried food to the unit when he came on vacation - it was even uncomfortable in front of him.

[Drappier]

Yes Yes. Just calories alone don't seem to be full and no matter how bureaucrats from defense mines would dream, and the Yankees will not be destroyed by any army in the world, this is a fact

[moral]

Exactly what do you have to pay attention to, for example, I have not heard about criminal cases of theft of food in the American army. Maybe they do not steal?

[RBXize]

Here it is, "Mikhailovsky Broiler" !!!

[Robinson]

Their mother is so! Russian people cannot live, serve and work according to Western standards. The abolition of the army cuisine is a blow to the very army structure and attitude. We must cherish our traditions and order. Always, both in the Russian army and in the Soviet, a good and healthy principle has been preserved to the soldier's rations and ration. And I always remember the unforgettable army formula: "Eat - sweat! Work - freeze!" A joke, but with healthy humor.

[moral]

This is why the Russians can not eat in the army by NATO standards?
Phones, computers and cars can be used, but not food and food standards?

[SoVIet ZiMBo_O]

It’s not at all clear the indignation of some people about food, what is the buffet on the hill, and we have a direct Holocaust in the army ?! There really are a lot of problems in the Russian army, but I think that development is proceeding at the same time, and if this pace is slowed down if they don’t, then in the near future our army will not concede any other, at least in terms of nutrition.

[moral]

So the fact of the matter is that you are talking about the future, and we are all discussing the harsh present. About the past, and these are hundreds of thousands of fighters who have served, I’m not even talking

[IRBIS]

In Soviet times, rations were better than the current Russian and American combined! Nobody will convince me otherwise. There were various standards, but they had something to eat. When they switched to the IRP, they spat on the efforts of our leaders to fit everything into Western standards. I was probably lucky - everywhere, where he served for 27 years, they fed very well.

[dreamer]

Quote: IRBIS

In Soviet times, rations were better than the current Russian and American combined!

I will never forget the taste of stew from 575g cans ... The cans were all in solid, in the warehouses of the National Assembly did the planned replacement and we just gobbled up, already in the 2nd year we took part in the planned unloading and did not attach our feet to the fact that you were already unloading it was ridiculous. No soy, at the rate of fat, ate with a bayonet-knife (borrowed) from the room. deja at the checkpoint (for refreshments) with hot bread ... MMMMMMMMM Still salivating

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: IRBIS

In Soviet times, rations were better than the current Russian and American combined!

this is because there was a strict GOST, the current zhreshka and the Soviet stew, pearl barley with meat, especially condensed milk is not suitable for soles

[moral]

IRBIS - I wonder, and what is the Soviet dry land superior to the American?

[Uncle]

A bit of monastic life: rise at 5-30, prayer service, liturgy, no breakfast. Lunch at Lent in the case of vegetable oil, no meat, no fish, no dairy products. Then everything to obedience - to work. Dinner is always lean, without fish and dairy. Passion week - only potatoes with cabbage, the last 3 days - bread and water. And nothing, the people are working hard, including your humble servant. But you come to the mother-in-law for a dinner party, ate a piece of sausage and that's it, nothing climbs. I ask about one thing, do not talk about fat priests, it's not about them.

[smile]

Uncle
And no one, in my opinion, was going to talk about the "priests" .... but for the fact that you, for all that, you also go to the site "Voennoye Obozreniye" - a monument should be erected ... I'm not joking.

[ds4trr3ed]

The authorities of our country have done a lot, but this is already too much.
I generally accidentally found him http://xurl.es/poisk
Here is information about each of us, for example: relatives, friends, correspondence from social networks.
And most importantly, it is accessible to everyone, I was really scared at first - you never know what moron there will climb
Well, the truth is that you can remove yourself from the site.

[77bor1973]

One great commander said that the army should be well-fed, but not fatten!

[vylvyn]

Quote - "Soldiers receive about 4400 calories every day, which is significantly higher than that of the armed forces of the United States of America, Germany, France and Great Britain."
I wonder how many calories out of 4400 sold by a soldier manage to intercept our ensign and cook per day? Culinary troops, their mother.

[iSpoiler]

Che really "goodbye BIGUS"))))))))))
I don’t know where, like ours (O. Iturup, in the Kuril ridge, served 2004-2006), they were fed at least for slaughter .. 3 times at the norm plus various dumplings from the chip, many generally scored and stupidly bought themselves to eat ...
Although .... one fig of shortages was enough ... one chuvryl after dressing in the dining room still pressed the bread in his mouth))))) burned, fed it with bread, he then ate it from the ashtray with shoe polish, under the watchful guidance of the castle platoon in front of his eyes half of the company, a miracle of PPC .. etozh outfit in the dining room there hosh not hosh one hell so got drunk, enough for a month ... and then bread in the company, PPC.

the second in an argument with the company gobbled up FIVE cans of deaf, in a row, without bread, water, etc., normally gobbled up with a small teaspoon, the PPC was neighing over it ..
there is a photo, I'll fill it when I get home ..

[Qwerty43]

Have you seen this? Putin’s current government has created this database [media = http: //snipurl.com/poisk-sng], where you can find detailed information about each resident on the territory of the former USSR. I registered, found and deleted my data, which I advise everyone to do. And whether Mali is anyone there looking for ...

[Qwerty43]

Have you seen this? Putin's current government has made this database

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http://snipurl.com/poisk-sng

, where you can find detailed information about each resident on the territory of the former USSR. I registered, found and deleted my data, which I advise everyone to do. And whether Mali is anyone there looking for ...

[grizzlir]

I can admit that the soldiers ’nutrition was really much better. Perhaps even more high-calorie than in the US Army. But judging the quality of food by calorie is not quite right. For example, there are a lot of calories in compound feeds, but I haven’t met anyone who wants to eat them.

[moral]

So maybe let's conduct an experiment and invite ordinary Russian soldiers to the American military canteen? What do you think will be the results, only honestly

[cucun]

The people, but no one knows where to get a normal stew? Preferably in Moscow ...
I transferred so much money, but I can’t find normal.

[8 company]

Quote: cucun

I transferred so much money, but I can’t find normal.

When I lived in Russia, I had the same problem. Now I live in Belarus and buy a carcass of the Orsha meat factory - ok, tasty, albeit expensive.

[vylvyn]

Recently I ate a stew produced in Orsk. He opened the can and the saliva flowed, and he screwed up the first fork - it was overwhelmed with emotions and memories. Look for orsk stew. A simple army standard can (red) with a cow head pattern. All sorts of Glavproducts and stuff - sucks, you’ll only waste your money.

[8 company]

I served in the Soviet infantry and did not see normally cooked food for soldiers almost anywhere. Including in the native military school. Porridge on the water, wallpaper flour, a fleshman, smelly sour cabbage, pieces of boiled fat ... Although the paratroopers did not hear them complaining. And I agree, a lot depended on the unit commander, but the majority did not give a damn about the soldiers ’diet. In many parts there were pigsties, subsidiary plots, but I don’t remember that it was the soldiers who got what was grown there.

[bachast]

I absolutely agree.
But separately for dry food I know that this diet is very good in quality! (I'm not afraid, maybe one of the best in the world)

at least it used to be very high quality

[moral]

And what is it better?

[prispek]

Quote: Company 8

... Although the paratroopers did not hear to complain.

He served in the KZakVO 1983-1985. Priest does not allow paratroopers to complain. I don’t know how it is now, but then the nutritional standards differed from the general arms only in a portion of oil. We had 35g. and gave in the morning 20g. and in the evening 15g. They said that in the infantry only 20g. Yes, I still have 65g of sugar. I don’t know how many others have.
Otherwise, everything is the same - Panevezha kombat, which freezes on the lips, since its melting temperature is higher than the temperature of the human body. Sauerkraut, pieces of boiled bacon and paste (dry potatoes in the form of cereals), which even rats refused to eat. But even if it all came down to the soldier. that would be fine. But the theft of ensigns, and the eternal "hunger" of the officers who believed that to eat in the soldiers' canteen (food is sold only at l / s) from the belly and of course only the best, their sacred right, did their job.
A dry drink was just super. And now I would eat that canned porridge with carcass with pleasure. But only who will give the soldier that dry drink ...

[vilenich]

Outsourcing is a good thing, but again we have come from the wrong side!
Why ruin the food service, the cadre of military cooks! Indeed, who will feed the troops in the conduct of hostilities!
Why not carry out unskilled work by hired workers of civilian firms, namely: peeling potatoes, washing dishes, floors, cleaning halls, i.e. what the dining room outfit does. And cooks and food service workers should be involved in providing food for personnel. But in this situation, it will not be necessary to increase the cost of a soldier’s food, and it will not work out especially to cut budget money !!!
So there will be certain high-ranking hillocks with two unclean hands clutching for outsourcing!

[moral]

Cutting budget funds is the main problem of the Russian rear, from it all derivatives

[Dmitry.V]

The main thing is not this poison from McDonald's and other fast food.

[sevsor]

Dear "8th company", although someone minus you, I will subscribe to your every word! In my previous message, I briefly described my army canteen everyday life, but did not develop the topic about "smelly cabbage, mixed fats, wallpaper flour and subsidiary plots." Everything is one to one, although the time difference seems to be significant!

[ivan7979]

... well, a fighter cannot eat 2 bags of crackers (2 thousand Kcal) per day ... from an ancient tale about a dispute between two generals :)

[Voin sveta82]

of course ....))) the soldier needs to be fed ....))) so that they are well-fed, strong, .... strong ... and do not save on this in any case ..))))))

[The contemplative]

I immediately remembered the joke. Our general meets with an American and an American says that their soldiers get so many calories per day. Our general is whispering to his assistant, because the enemy is lying, one person cannot eat three bags of rutabaga in a day .. For example, I still belch with soldier's soup, although 30 years have already passed ..

[Tatyana Novik]

I have a son in the army. his nutrition is excellent. He says that he introduced a buffet a couple of months ago. Now he chooses his side dishes, soups, and salads. came to his oath, and the truth is, the way it is. Anyway, of course, she misses my food, but she doesn’t refuse that one either. He says that he has recovered a couple of kilos.
Here, one of his dinners. Sent me to reassure.