Captured Japanese, American and Soviet armored vehicles at the Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution

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On the ground floor of the Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution in Beijing, there is an exhibition hall where a rich collection of artillery pieces, mortars, multiple launch rocket systems, anti-aircraft mounts and armored vehicles of Japanese, American, Soviet and Chinese production is presented.

At the entrance to the hall, visitors are greeted by the Soviet medium tank T-62 and the heavy American tank M26 Pershing. Both of these machines are trophies of the People's Liberation Army of China.




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Tanks T-62 and M26 installed at the entrance to the hall of armored vehicles and artillery

During the fighting on the Korean Peninsula, it turned out that the M24 Chaffee and M4 Sherman tanks are very vulnerable to the fire of anti-tank weapons available to the North Korean army and Chinese volunteers. In this regard, the American command wanted to have a tank whose frontal armor at real combat distances could withstand the hit of armor-piercing shells fired from the T-34-85 cannon.


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American heavy tank M26. In the background, his rival in the battles in Korea is the Soviet T-34-85

According to official US data, 309 Pershing tanks were sent to Korea. M26 crews chalked up 29 North Korean T-34-85s. However, the Americans admit that during the tank duels “thirty-fours” were killed 6 “Pershing”. From July 1950 to January 21, 1951, 252 Pershing tanks took part in the fighting, of which 156 tanks were out of order, including 50 tanks that were completely destroyed or captured. From January 21 to October 6, 1951, for technical reasons and from enemy fire, 170 M26 tanks went out, how many of them were lost forever is not known.

The frontal armor of the hull and turret with a thickness of 102 mm could be penetrated by the “thirty-four” gun only from a very close distance. In turn, the 90-mm gun, which was equipped with the Pershing, hit the T-34-85 at a distance of up to 2 km. Thus, in terms of firepower and level of protection, the M26 was approximately equivalent to the German Tiger. However, heavy tanks were not suitable for the conditions of Korea. "Pershing" skidded on the mountain slopes, and the flimsy Korean bridges through numerous rivers and streams could not stand the car, whose mass exceeded 43 tons.

After the front line stabilized, the main function of the American heavy tanks participating in the Korean War was the fire support of infantry units and the fight against enemy manpower. For this, in addition to the 90 mm guns, a 12,7 mm machine gun mounted on the turret and two 7,62 mm machine guns were used. Although the fire capabilities of the Pershing were quite high, due to poor mobility and low technical reliability, the M26 was used only in the first half of the war on the Korean Peninsula.

An information plate installed next to the Soviet T-62 tank says that this vehicle was captured by PLA border guard troops in March 1969 during a border conflict with the USSR on Damansky Island.


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Soviet medium tank T-62

The KDVO command sent several T-62 tanks to support Soviet border guards who lacked heavy equipment. At the same time, one Soviet tank, when trying to get around the Chinese troops that were seated on the island, was hit by a cumulative rocket grenade. After dark, the Chinese troops were able to dismantle night vision devices and an weapon stabilizer, which were secret at the time, from the tank remaining in the Chinese forces. Subsequently, the fire around the wrecked tank was broken by the fire of 120 mm mortars, and it sank. However, after the ceasefire, the Chinese managed to raise the T-62, return it to working condition and test it.

T-62 became the first in the USSR serial tank armed with a smooth-bore 115-mm gun U-5TS "Hammer". Compared with the 100-mm D-10T tank gun mounted on the T-54 and T-55 tanks, the U-5TS gun had better armor penetration, however, the practical rate of fire of the 115 mm gun was less than that of the 100 mm gun. The design of the T-62 was close to the T-54 / T-55, with these machines there was a high degree of continuity in the internal equipment, components and assemblies. The security of the T-62 hull remained at the T-55 level, but the turret’s armor became thicker.

Chinese experts thoroughly studied the captured T-62, revealing its advantages and disadvantages. Of particular interest were the smooth-bore gun with feathered projectiles, a fire control system, an arms stabilizer, and night vision devices. At the same time, China refrained from copying the 115-mm U-5TS guns. The captured T-62 was at the test site until the mid-1980s, after which it was transferred to the Beijing Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution.

In the arsenal of detachments of the Chinese Communists, fighting the Kuomintang troops, there were many captured Japanese armored vehicles. In particular, there is a Type 94 wedge in the museum’s exposition. Machines of this type were used by the Japanese Imperial Army as light tractors and for reconnaissance.


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Wedge Heel Type 94

An armored tracked vehicle armed with one 6,5-mm Type 91 machine gun or 7,7-mm Type 97 machine gun was developed in 1933 by Tokyo Electric Gas Co., Ltd. The thickness of the strongly inclined frontal sheet and machine gun mask was 12 mm, the stern sheet - 10 mm, the walls of the tower and the sides of the hull - 8 mm, the roof and the bottom - 4 mm. Crew - 2 people. 32 hp carburetor engine Accelerated on the highway a car weighing 3,5 tons to 40 km / h.

During the fighting in the second half of the 1940s, several Japanese Type 97 tanks were captured by the Chinese Communists. In Japan, the Type 97 was considered a medium tank, but according to the generally accepted classification, it was rather light. The combat weight of the tank was 15,8 tons. At the same time, it was approximately on the same level of protection as the Soviet BT-7. The upper part of the Type 97 frontal sheet was 27 mm thick, the middle part was 20 mm, the lower part was 27 mm. Side armor - 20 mm. Tower and feed - 25 mm. The tank was armed with a 57 mm cannon and two 7,7 mm machine guns. 170 hp diesel allowed to develop a speed of 38 km / h on the highway. Crew - 4 people. The Type 97 tank was in production from 1938 to 1943. During this period, more than 2100 copies were collected.

The museum has a Type 97 tank with a new turret and a 47 mm long-barrel cannon. Serial production of this model began in 1940. This modification was created with the aim of increasing anti-tank capabilities. Despite the smaller caliber, due to the high initial velocity of the projectile, the 47-mm gun significantly exceeded the 57-mm gun in armor penetration. Tanks of this modification were produced in parallel with the basic version.


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Hero Tank Type 97

At the place of honor in the museum’s exposition is placed a “tank-hero” Type 97 with a 47-mm cannon. According to the official Chinese stories it is the very first tank used by communist forces led by Mao Dzedong. The Type 97 tank was captured at a Japanese tank repair facility in Shenyang in November 1945. This combat vehicle participated in battles in Jiannan, Jinzhou and Tianjin. During the battles for Jinzhou in 1948, the crew of the tank under the command of Dong Laifu broke through the defense of the Kuomintang troops. In 1949, this tank participated in a military parade on the foundation of the PRC.

The Italian CV CV tank, captured by the PLA in 33 after the liberation of Shanghai, is installed in the collection of captured armored vehicles. The machines of this type were used by the Kuomintang for communications and reconnaissance.

Captured Japanese, American and Soviet armored vehicles at the Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution
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Wedge Heel CV33

Wedge Wedge CV33, manufactured by Italian firms Fiat and Ansaldo since the mid-1930s, was created based on the British Carden-Loyd Mk VI. In total, more than 1940 tankettes were built before 1500. Most of them are exported. About 100 units were delivered to China.


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Initially, the CV33 was armed with a 6,5 mm Fiat Mod.14 machine gun, but in China the cars were rearmed with Japanese 7,7 mm machine guns. The thickness of the frontal armor of the hull and wheelhouse was 15 mm, the side and the feed were 9 mm. With a mass of 3,5 tons, the wedge, equipped with a carburetor engine with a power of 43 hp, could accelerate to 42 km / h.

Another trophy available at the museum is the American-made M3A3 Stuart light tank captured from the Kuomintang. From 1941 to 1944, more than 23 light tanks of the M000 family were built in the United States. In addition to the American army, these machines were widely supplied to the Allies. More than a hundred Stuart tanks were transferred to the Kuomintang, some of them went to the PLA.

For the light tank, the M3 was well protected. The upper part of the frontal sheet with an inclination angle of 17 ° had a thickness of 38 mm, the middle armor sheet with an inclination angle of 69 ° had a thickness of 16 mm, and the lower armor plate was 44 mm. The thickness of the side armor and stern is 25 mm. Tower forehead - 38 mm, side of the tower -25 mm. The tower had a 37 mm cannon and a 7,62 mm machine gun coaxial with it. Another machine gun was located in a ball mount in the frontal sheet of the hull and was serviced by a shooter. On the roof of the tower, on a pivot mount mounted anti-aircraft machine gun rifle caliber. 250 hp carburetor engine provided the machine with a mass of 12,7 tons good mobility. On a good road, the Stuart could accelerate to 60 km / h.


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Light tank M3A3 Stuart

This tank was recaptured by the Chiang Kai-shek during the battles for South Shandong in January 1947. Later, this M3A3 was introduced into the tank forces of the East China Field Army, and he participated in the Jinan and Huaihai campaigns. During the battle for Jinan in Yonggumen, the crew of the tank with tail number "568" under the leadership of Shen Xu played an important role. After the battle was over, the Stuart received the honorary title “Honored Tank”, and the tank commander Shen Xu - “Iron Man Hero”. In 1959, he was transferred from Tank Academy No. 1 to the Beijing Military Museum.

An LVT (A) 1 tracked armored amphibian is installed in the exhibition hall next to the Stuart. The machine has a 6-12 mm thick bulletproof armor, and an M5A1 tank turret with a 37 mm cannon and a 7,62 mm machine gun coaxial with it. Additionally, in the aft part above the hatches two machine guns of a rifle caliber could be installed. Aft hatches were intended for the safe disembarkation of the crew. The mass of the combat vehicle was 15 tons, the crew - 6 people. The 250-horsepower engine provided speeds of 32 km / h on land and 12 km / h on water. Outwardly, the car looked high and awkward, but it turned out to be a rather useful means of fire support for landing when landing on shore. For their time, these amphibious tanks, capable of providing fire support to the landing, were a big step forward, but due to weak protection, large dimensions and low mobility, they were very vulnerable to anti-tank weapons.


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Floating tank LVT (A) 1

In May 1949, during the liberation of Shanghai, the People's Liberation Army captured several tracked amphibians LVT (A) 1. After the formation of the PRC, these machines were equipped with a battalion, which was included in the first PLA marine regiment. In addition to the LVT (A) 1 with a 37-mm cannon, the PLA had at its disposal floating fire support tanks LVT (A) 4, armed with a 75-mm howitzer, 7,62 and 12,7-mm machine guns. To enhance the anti-tank properties of the LVT (A) 4, Chinese experts in the mid-1950s installed a Soviet 75-mm ZiS-57 gun instead of a tower with a 2 mm howitzer in some mid-XNUMXs.


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Floating conveyor LVT-3

Together with amphibious tanks in the vicinity of Shanghai, in 1949, LVT-3 amphibious carriers were captured. The armament of this machine usually included one 12,7 mm M2NV machine gun and two 7,62 mm M1919A4 on pivot mounts. Armor plates could be attached to the LVT-3 body, but at the same time its carrying capacity decreased from 3,6 to 1,3 tons. The floating LVT-3 transporter could carry 30 armed soldiers or a jeep. The exploitation of American amphibious tanks and carriers in the PRC continued until the early 1970s.

The first American tank used in the fighting in Korea was the M24 Chaffee. This light tank in terms of protection was comparable with the M3A3 Stuart, but significantly superior to it in armament. The main weapons The Chaffee was the M75 ​​lightweight 6 mm gun, which in terms of ballistic performance corresponded to the 75 mm M2 and M3 tank guns mounted on the M3 Lee and M4 Sherman medium tanks. A 7,62 mm M1919A4 machine gun was paired with a cannon, another was located in a ball mount in the front of the hull. On the turret, on the roof of the tower mounted anti-aircraft 12,7-mm machine gun M2NV.

On July 10, 1950, the Chaffee met in the first tank battle of the Korean War with the T-34-85, which formed the basis of North Korean tank forces. In this case, the inability of the M24 lungs to compete with the “thirty-fours” on an equal footing was revealed. The thin armor of light American tanks turned out to be very vulnerable not only to 85-mm shells of tank guns, it was also easily pierced by armor-piercing shells of 76-mm ZiS-3 divisions, 57-mm ZiS-2 guns and 45-mm M-42 guns. When operating against the Chaffee infantry, the 14,5-mm anti-tank rifles suffered greatly from the fire. The American Chaffee suffered serious losses, only from July 1, 1950 to October 6, 1951 195 M24 tanks were disabled, about half of them were irretrievably lost.

Already in August 1950, the M24 in the American tank units operating in Korea began to be replaced with medium M4 Sherman and heavy M26 Pershing. Nevertheless, until the armistice in July 1953, the Chaffee continued to be used as auxiliary and reconnaissance tanks, which was facilitated by the difficult terrain in Korea. Often heavier tanks could not climb the hillsides or force the steep banks of the streams.


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Light tank M24 Chaffee

This M24 was captured by the Chinese People's Volunteer Army in December 1950. After which he was taken out for study to the territory of the PRC. Several of these machines, which became the trophies of Chinese volunteers, were briefly used against the "UN troops" and were destroyed by the American aviation in March 1951 of the year.

The main enemy of the North Korean and Chinese T-34-85 from the fall of 1950 became the American Sherman medium tanks of the M4A3 and M4A4 modifications. The British forces were armed with Sherman Firefly. According to official American data, from July 21, 1950 to January 21, 1951, 516 M4A3 were involved in hostilities, of which more than 220 tanks were out of order, 120 vehicles were irretrievably lost. On April 1, 1951, there were 442 M4A3 tanks in Korea. From January 21 to October 6, 1951, 178 tanks of this type were lost. From April 8 to October 6, 1951, more than 500 Sherman tanks of all modifications were destroyed and destroyed.


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M4A3 medium tank with a detached gun barrel

The museum has two Sherman tanks of the M4A3 modification. Apparently, one M4A3 was captured damaged, since this machine left a small chunk from the gun barrel.

A significant number of broken and wrecked tanks were captured by the North Koreans and the Chinese. It is known that about two dozen captured Shermans fought against their former masters. An explanatory plate for the M4A3E8 tank says that this machine with a 76 mm long-barrel gun became the trophy of Chinese volunteers in December 1950, in the Jiechuan area in the north of the Korean Peninsula.


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Medium Tank M4A3E8

In terms of fire characteristics and security, the Sherman and T-34-85 tanks were approximately equivalent. The long-barreled 76-mm M4A3 gun and the 85-mm T-34-85 cannon confidently pierced the armor of their opponent at real combat distances. At the same time, the high-explosive and fragmentation effect of the 85-mm shell was significantly higher, and it was better suited for the destruction of field fortifications and the destruction of enemy manpower. At the same time, American tank crews had a higher level of training, which affected the results of tank battles.

M36 anti-tank self-propelled guns, which had much in common with Sherman, also took part in the hostilities in Korea. Serial production of this tank destroyer began in the second half of 1944. Depending on the modification, the chassis of the M10 self-propelled gun or the M4A3 tank was used. Unlike linear tanks and tank destroyers M10 with 76 mm gun, self-propelled gun M36 was armed with a 90 mm gun M3, designed on the basis of anti-aircraft guns. The 90 mm M3 gun was one of the most powerful serial anti-tank weapons available to the U.S. Army in the early 1950s. The security of the M36 hull, depending on the modification, corresponded to the tank destroyer M10 or the M4A3 tank. The cast turret with a 90-mm gun in front was covered with 76 mm of armor, the sides of the turret were 32 mm thick. On the self-propelled guns of the first series, the tower was open, and later a roof was installed from light anti-fragmentation armor. Auxiliary armament M36 consisted of a 12,7-mm machine gun M2HB, located in the pivot installation on the roof of the stern niche of the tower.

After the “UN troops” arrived in Korea, the USSR began supplying IS-2 and ISU-122 heavy tanks to the DPRK and China, and anti-tank self-propelled guns with a 90-mm gun were in great demand.


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Self-propelled anti-tank installation M36

The explanatory plate for this M36 says that the self-propelled gun was at the disposal of the Chinese in the fall of 1951. She was abandoned by the Americans on the territory of the DPRK in the vicinity of Wonsan.

Since the fall of 1951, Americans have been very intensively using the M19A1 ZSU in combat. This machine, on the chassis of the M24 Chaffee light tank, is armed with twin 40 mm anti-aircraft guns with a total rate of fire of 240 rounds / min. Ammunition carried 352 shells. Given the fact that American aircraft dominated the air over South Korea, and the Soviet MiG-15 did not cross the 38th parallel, anti-aircraft self-propelled guns were actively used against ground targets.


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ZSU M19A1

M19 anti-aircraft installations did not have the destructive power of tanks or self-propelled guns, but they had their own trump card - high rate of fire, accuracy and density of fire. Light anti-aircraft self-propelled guns were an indispensable means of repelling the massive attacks of the Chinese and North Korean infantry. In mountainous and hilly areas, accurate direct-fire shooting and the ability to release the maximum number of shells in a short period of time were especially appreciated. Therefore, self-propelled guns tried to raise as high as possible. In this regard, the M19 ZSU were more preferable than the Sherman tanks. At the same time, the fighting compartments of these vehicles, opened at the top, did not provide reliable protection for the calculation from machine-gun fire and artillery and mortar shelling.

Shortly before the cessation of full-scale hostilities on the Korean Peninsula in July 1953, during a counterattack, the Chinese People’s Volunteer Army in the Phenkang area captured an American self-propelled 155-mm howitzer M41 Gorilla. Although these vehicles in the American army had only 85 units, they actively fought in Korea.


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155 mm self-propelled howitzer M41

As the base of the self-propelled guns, the chassis of the light tank M24 Chaffee was used, on which a 155-mm M114 howitzer was installed. To ensure stability during firing, a fodder opener was used. This device consisted of two support beams and a blade with stops for deepening into the ground. The mass of the M41 self-propelled guns in the combat position was 19,3 tons. Two engines with a capacity of 110 hp each allowed to accelerate along the highway to 56 km / h. The crew of the self-propelled gun was 5 people, the maximum firing range of 14 km, rate of fire - 2 rounds per minute.


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Between the American "Sherman" and the Soviet T-34-85, a lightweight tracked floating M29C Water Weasel transporter was placed in the museum's exposition. In order to ensure buoyancy in the bow and stern of the M29C hull, removable rigid pontoons could be attached. Movement afloat was carried out by rewinding the tracks. The mass of the machine without cargo was 1,8 tons, it was possible to transport 4 paratroopers. 70 hp engine on land it provided speeds of up to 55 km / h and 6 km / h afloat.


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M29C Water Weasel, bullet holes are visible on board the machine

This machine showed itself very well in Korea as a conveyor of personnel and various cargoes. Small mobile all-terrain vehicles with a carrying capacity of 700 kg, passing even through the swamp, deserved recognition in the troops. The Vizeli also occasionally had heavy machine guns and recoilless 57 and 75 mm guns, turning them into fire support vehicles. To protect against bullets and chips, additional armor was hung on the hull, but at the same time the car was deprived of the ability to overcome water obstacles by swimming and the carrying capacity was reduced.


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Crawler Conveyor Oxford Carrier MK I and Wasp Mk IIC Self-propelled Flamethrower

In addition to the M29C Water Weasel, "UN troops" used other tracked transporters in Korea. The museum has a British-made conveyor Oxford Carrier MK I and a Canadian self-propelled flamethrower Wasp Mk IIС.


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Armored personnel carrier Oxford Carrier MK I

The Oxford Carrier MK I in Korea was at the disposal of the British, Canadian and Australian contingents. It was operated as an armored personnel carrier and light artillery tractor. The machine, weighing about 7,5 tons, was covered with bulletproof armor, and thanks to a 110 hp carburetor engine. speeds up to 50 km / h. A British-made armored personnel carrier presented at the museum was captured by Chinese forces in December 1950.


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Self-propelled flamethrower Wasp Mk IIC

The Canadian-made Wasp Mk IIC self-propelled flamethrower on the Universal Carrier chassis had a 341 liter capacity for the fire mix placed on the mounts behind the rear of the hull. A gas bottle was located inside the machine. The range of the flamethrower, depending on the direction and strength of the wind, was 60-70 m. For self-defense, a BREN light machine gun was used, fire from which could be fired from a turret or from loopholes, being protected by an armored corps. There was the possibility of transporting several fighters, although in this case there was a risk of reduced mobility due to exceeding the maximum load capacity.

In the "UN troops" and in the South Korean army in the initial period of the war, there were several dozen American M8 Greyhound wheeled armored vehicles. These rather successful armored cars were mainly used for reconnaissance, patrolling, message delivery and escort of transport convoys.


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Armored Car M8

Serial production of the "Beagle" began in 1943, and before the end of World War II, it was possible to produce more than 8500 cars. The armament of the M8 armored car was the same as that of the M3A3 Stuart tank. The frontal armor was 13-19 mm thick, the side and the stern were 10 mm thick, the turret was 19 mm thick. Crew - 4 people. The machine, weighing more than 7800 kg, with an engine capacity of 110 hp it accelerated along the highway to 85 km / h.

With the correct use of M8 armored vehicles, they were completely justified, but in the event of a collision with tanks or falling under artillery and mortar shelling, they suffered heavy losses. Available at the Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution, the M8 armored car was recaptured from the Chiang Kai-shek during the battle for Shanghai in May 1949.

In the following parts of the photo tour of the Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution in Beijing, we look at the Chinese-made armored vehicles available here, multiple launch rocket systems, anti-aircraft guns and artillery.

To be continued ...
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  1. +17
    23 January 2020 18: 06
    Our T-62 in the Chinese Museum in the form of a trophy like a knife in the neck.
    1. +13
      23 January 2020 18: 24
      Quote: Kleber
      Our T-62 in the Chinese Museum in the form of a trophy like a knife in the neck.

      Sad but true.
      Thanks for the article Sergey !!!
    2. +10
      23 January 2020 20: 44
      Quote: Kleber
      Our T-62 in the Chinese Museum in the form of a trophy like a knife in the neck.

      with T-62

      and Damansky's story is muddy.
      the role of Marshal of the People's Republic of China Lin Biao (Lín Biāo - on the "teapot" he is to the right of Mao)

      and the tops of the USSR (Leonid Brezhnev, Yuri Andropov, Grechko, etc.) ...
      in February 1969, information came through both the Taiwanese and the border channels that the Chinese army was attacking Soviet border guards in Damansky. At the same time, the number of troops, the method and time of the attack were precisely indicated. This was a clear proposal to conduct a custom-made battle, similar to those that Lin Biao played with the Kuomintang generals. By defeating the social-imperialists, albeit local, the Chinese defense minister could raise his authority to heaven. The outpost was not warned of an impending attack. However, the battle of March 2 seemed Lin Biao not effective enough. Soon there was information about the preparation of the second attack and the concentration of fire weapons. The new giveaway game promised great losses, so the Minister of Defense of the USSR Andrei Antonovich Grechko flatly refused to sacrifice his people for the sake of this farce. Then it was decided to reduce the custom-made battle to a draw. After a temporary victory, the Chinese strike so hard that they no longer meddle. Everything was performed as if by notes, and each side after the battle declared itself a winner. A wave of rallies swept across both countries, but most importantly - it was after the events at Daman that Marshal Lin Biao became Mao's official successor.


      At the Ninth Congress of the CCP, Lin Biao is called the "successor" of Mao and the "proletarian genius."

      and then there were “Theses on Project 571” and “The Mountain of the Jade Tower” (named after the area of ​​luxury villas near Beijing, where the ruling elite lives, well, like our Rublevka)

      Lin Biao's dangerous plan demanded the secret assistance of the Soviet Union, which must "again" imitate striking China. This would give the PRC Minister of Defense an excuse to declare martial law and take Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai "under guard" in order to then kill them and seize power.

      and then (in July 1971), US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger secretly visited China and held talks with Zhou Enlai ...

      and as a finale:
      On September 13, 1971, the Trident plane crashed in Mongolia, on board of which was Lin Biao, Deputy Chairman of the CPC Central Committee Mao Zedong and the Minister of Defense of China. In September 1971, he simply went missing in China, and no one knew where the "legitimate successor of Mao" and the marshal had gone. The October 1 celebrations in honor of the anniversary of the People’s Republic of China, at which Lin Biao was to take pride of place next to Chairman Mao, were canceled without any explanation. The government-controlled press no longer mentioned Lin Biao ...
      uh ...
      According to the Chinese version, T-62 No. 545 knocked out of RPG-2 Private Yang Linwho then died. The Chinese description of this battle is utterly heroic: allegedly, Yang Lin was already on the front line for several hours, was wounded several times (in particular, several fingers on his arm were torn off by fragments) and, “overcoming the pain”, destroyed the enemy’s car and thwarted the tank attack the enemy. Later, Yang Lin was declared a national hero of the PRC for his feat, becoming practically a “political spill of Klochkov’s local spill."


      The photo taken by the Chinese during the fighting shows that T-62 No. 545 has no combat damage, except for a broken chassis (which is also confirmed by the current state of the machine standing in the Beijing Museum: it does not have any dents or holes and looks almost like new). Secondly, it is clear that a wrecked tank is either on the bank of the channel, or on the very shore, and he simply could not drown qualitatively there.
      1. +1
        25 January 2020 08: 58
        Quote: opus
        The photo taken by the Chinese during the fighting shows that the T-62 No. 545 has no combat damage, except for a broken chassis (which is also confirmed by the current state of the machine standing in the Beijing Museum: it does not have any dents or holes and looks practically like new).

        In an article I read about the battle of this tank, it is said that it was blown up by Fri mines laid out on ice in front of the tank and disguised in white plastic bags. But the Chinese, you see, needed heroes and appeared
        Quote: opus
        Private Yang Lin
        1. +2
          25 January 2020 18: 17
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          In an article I read, which describes the battle of this tank, it is said that it was blown up on Fri mines, laid out on ice in front of the tank

          It can be seen that the caterpillar was knocked down not on the ice, but on the shore (the ground after the "passage")
          1. 0
            25 January 2020 18: 52
            Quote: opus
            the caterpillar is shot down not on ice, but on the shore

            from the article:
            Subsequently, the fire around the wrecked tank was broken by the fire of 120 mm mortars, and it sank.
            so I think that you either didn’t force the article, or I didn’t know that the tank could be drowned on the shore, so deeply that it was then necessary to pull it out of the water.
            1. +3
              25 January 2020 19: 09
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              from the article:

              I don’t care what is written in the article.
              I put the photo:

              +
              Quote: opus
              The photo taken by the Chinese during the fighting shows that the T-62 No. 545 has no combat damage, except for a broken chassis (which is also confirmed by the current state of the machine standing in the Beijing Museum: it does not have any dents or holes and looks practically like new). Secondly, it is clear that a wrecked tank is either on the bank of the channel, or on the very shore, and he simply could not drown qualitatively there.


              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              I’m thinking, either you nasilil the article, or I didn’t know that the tank can be drowned on the shore

              At the expense of "did not master / did not read" - do not judge by yourself.
              I also can’t imagine how you can drown him, and then take such a photo
              Can you tell me?

              Quote: Author
              В informational nameplate established next to the Soviet tank T-62, says

              the author clearly wrote: in a Chinese tablet, it says.
              The Chinese can say / write what they want.
              but the tank did not "sink"
              1. 0
                25 January 2020 20: 38
                Quote: opus
                I also can’t imagine how you can drown him, and then take such a photo
                Can you tell me?

                and you don’t think that you photographed it at first, and then drowned it, the island changed hands several times. By the way, ours also wrote about mortar shelling of ice around the tank, and not just the Chinese. For example:
                However, the lead tank was shot down, remaining standing in the neutral zone. Since a large amount of classified equipment was installed on the combat vehicle, they tried to pull the tank from the river with a tractor. To no avail. As a result, a decision was made by mortar fire to break through the ice around the tank so that it sank. And so they did. However, the sneaky Chinese sent their divers to the bottom of the T-62. They attached cables to the tank and slowly pulled it to their shore Ussuri.
                1. +1
                  25 January 2020 22: 19
                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  and you do not think that he was photographed at first, and then drowned, the island

                  and then lifted and restored and placed in a museum?

                  Threat. to drown the schaub; it is necessary to tow it in place; Tank something on the ground left no gusli.


                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  For example:

                  yes byvat and write something else
    3. +7
      23 January 2020 20: 49
      Our T-62 in the Chinese Museum in the form of a trophy like a knife in the neck.

      Yes, nonsense, they rolled them on this peninsula. And trophies are quite a normal thing.
      1. +1
        24 January 2020 18: 31
        And you had to drop the T-62, which T-55 would not be enough?
        1. +2
          24 January 2020 21: 31
          And you had to drop the T-62, which T-55 would not be enough?

          It is necessary, not necessary, what was at the disposal and then used. In general, in that conflict for the first time they used a lot of "new products"
    4. +1
      23 January 2020 23: 55
      Quote: Kleber
      Our T-62 in the Chinese Museum in the form of a trophy like a knife in the neck

      There are things to remember which are prevented by current market considerations. But forgetting about them is like death.
    5. 0
      24 January 2020 06: 56
      Quote: Kleber
      Our T-62 in the Chinese Museum in the form of a trophy like a knife in the neck.

      Believe me, he is not the only one with them. A lot, during the American-Vietnamese war, the Chinese stole from the echelons passing through their territory to Vietnam from the USSR, replacing the "withdrawn" samples with "their copies"
      However, after the ceasefire, the Chinese managed to raise the T-62, return it to working condition and test it.
      No, they managed to "steal" it even during the battles, in those few moments when they controlled the Damansky bank.
      1. +5
        24 January 2020 09: 08
        Quote: svp67
        Believe me, he is not the only one with them. A lot, during the American-Vietnamese war, the Chinese stole from the echelons passing through their territory to Vietnam from the USSR, replacing the "withdrawn" samples with "their copies"

        As regards the theft of goods traveling to Vietnam through the territory of the PRC, this mainly concerned MiG-21 fighters, radars and air defense systems. From the armored vehicles of the USSR, the T-34-85, T-54, and PT-76 tanks were delivered to the DRV — all this was already in China.
  2. +15
    23 January 2020 18: 11
    Thanks to the author, I’m waiting for the continuation. A chic museum .. Before the Kubinka, the number of exhibits is far, but also impressive ... We looked at the planes, tanks, too, now I’m waiting for an article from the author about the Qingdao Naval Museum, there is also something to see ..
    1. +3
      24 January 2020 03: 44
      Quote: GKS 2111
      Kubinka is far from the number of exhibits

      Very far, but unfortunately, Kubinka is far from the level of presentation of the material, although this is easily remedied.
      1. 0
        25 January 2020 10: 47
        Perhaps I will express seditious thoughts, many people write how Patriot Park destroys Kubinka, but it was in the park that I liked the whole presentation and design of the halls, and how the children like to crawl using the technique (the nephew was dragged away from BMD-4 and the opened Mi-8 ramp). I really loved the Cuban Museum, 4 times I was in it and always wanted to increase the area of ​​expositions, but I really liked the Patriot, this is a step forward
  3. +11
    23 January 2020 18: 17
    Super article !!! The author definitely +! I read it in one go! good
  4. +2
    23 January 2020 18: 38
    Until today, I did not know about what was lost in the battles for Fr. Daman tank T-62. Ah yes the Chinese, ah yes ....
    1. +6
      23 January 2020 18: 54
      Good evening everyone! And by the way about the Daman conflict. Remember the movie * Russian Field *, because there the hero of Tikhonov Jr. dies there. And the article is certainly wonderful, thanks to the author!
    2. +3
      24 January 2020 01: 23
      Quote: kjhg
      Until today, I did not know about what was lost in the battles for Fr. Daman tank T-62.

      It's strange ... this "story" was known back in "Soviet times" ...
  5. +5
    23 January 2020 19: 22
    Good review of the exposure, respect to the author.
    At the same time, China refrained from copying the 115-mm U-5TS guns.

    Rather, they abstained because they could not establish production
  6. +8
    23 January 2020 20: 18
    Namesake hi As always on top! Excellent! good
    1. +4
      24 January 2020 02: 30
      Quote: Svarog51
      Namesake hi As always on top! Excellent! good

      Sergey, welcome! hi The following will be an article about Chinese tanks on display at the Military Museum of the Chinese Revolution. There is still a lot of interesting things, for example, there is a large collection of anti-aircraft and anti-tank guns of foreign production. But I do not know whether it is worth continuing and whether it will be interesting to readers. request
      1. +6
        24 January 2020 02: 44
        Good morning hi Have no doubt. This hall flashed in some article, but the information there is scanty. You have everything in detail for each sample. Such articles. how do you have to wait and catch from the stream of continuous politics. Be sure to write, your readers are waiting. Yes And do not pay attention to the offended. There are 10 of them every week. Constants quickly calculate them, do not allow to turn around. stop
        P.S. Olga bow hi I look, she also changed epaulettes? After all, does she serve aviation? Show her how to do aviation. If you don’t know, I will help.
        1. +3
          24 January 2020 02: 51
          Quote: Svarog51
          Be sure to write, your readers are waiting.

          Thanks! Kohl wait then continue. Although, in fairness, it must be said that very few read it.
          Quote: Svarog51
          P.S. Olga hi bow Look, she also changed epaulettes? After all, does she serve aviation? Show her how to do aviation. If you don’t know, I will help.

          She is a general specialist for me, she served under a contract as a telegraph operator at a communications center, then worked at KnAAPO, traded in footwear, now, with my financial support, she opened her own store, sells satellite television equipment and related products. As for the "shoulder straps", some character complained about her that she often gives him minuses.
          1. +6
            24 January 2020 03: 05
            So we are her colleagues, I am also a signalman, only the Ministry of Emergencies. How and for what the epaulette is being deprived - I am in the know. As you can see, also on a new beginning. Well done, let her not lose heart, and more often participate in discussions. The main thing is without fanaticism and politely, even with outright boors. You are also criticized in this article, moreover, in an openly caustic form and for no good reason. These are also on the site, they would only hook someone. These must simply be ignored.
            I really like to read about tanks, everything is better than any bills. good
            1. +3
              24 January 2020 03: 22
              Quote: Svarog51
              So we are colleagues with her, I am also a signalman, only the Ministry of Emergencies

              Well, you and I are colleagues too drinks
              Quote: Svarog51
              As you can see, also on a new beginning

              Yeah, I noticed ... wink
              Quote: Svarog51
              Well done, let her not lose heart, and more often participate in discussions.

              There is no time for her to lose heart, but she also constantly sat on VO.
              Quote: Svarog51
              You are also criticized in this article, moreover, in an openly caustic form and for no good reason.

              I am always open to constructive criticism, but when they cling to a hyphen, it is simply ridiculous.
              Quote: Svarog51
              I really like to read about tanks, everything is better than any bills.

              I am not a tanker, I can only use my modest knowledge on this subject and possibly not always reliable sources.
              1. +8
                24 January 2020 03: 34
                I am not a tanker, I can only use my modest knowledge on this subject and possibly not always reliable sources.

                It is important that you write in the first person and from the place of the event. I’m not destined to get into the Chinese museum, but here is a gorgeous review. Normal colleagues gently correct and complement. We know who is worth something on the site. bully
                I was lucky to be in Kubinka, but so much has been written about it, and I'm mostly a reader. Therefore, I "dug in" on the VO, everything is more interesting than staring at a box. good drinks
                1. +3
                  24 January 2020 03: 41
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  It is important that you write in the first person and from the place of the event.

                  If ... a tip to this museum was given to me by my nephew, who is studying in Beijing. I myself am still not visiting ... request Photos in the publication, these are partially scans from a virtual tour. You can take a look:
                  http://3d.jb.mil.cn/bqcl/plane/index.html
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Normal colleagues gently correct and complement. We know who is worth something on the site.
                  Ento for sure ... Yes
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  I’m lucky to visit Kubinka, but so much has been written about her, and I’m mostly a reader.

                  I have not been to Kubinka yet, but I hope to visit ...
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  Therefore, I "dug in" on the VO, everything is more interesting than staring at a box.

                  We don’t watch a zombie at all, even though Olya sells television equipment. In the trading floor, the telly is usually tuned to the cognitive channel, about nature or hunting and fishing.
                  1. +6
                    24 January 2020 04: 04
                    Do not give out sources, let it be - as is. So interesting.
                    The "Hobby" section was never launched on VO, which is a pity. Many would be drawn there.
                    Get ready to Kubinka in advance and with a margin of opportunities. Eyes run up from the abundance of technology. Stock up batteries for the camera. There, technology is concentrated thematically in hangars. I didn’t have a photo, but I managed to buy an album. At least something for memory.
                    1. +4
                      24 January 2020 04: 10
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      Do not give out sources, let it be - as is. So interesting.

                      So you have to be honest with the people, I just summarized the information on the exhibits and processed the photos.
                      Quote: Svarog51
                      Get ready to Kubinka in advance and with a margin of opportunities. Eyes run up from the abundance of technology. Stock up batteries for the camera.

                      This is only possible next year. In this, we use our free travel to Crimea. I want to warm the bones in the warm sea. In Japan, diving is certainly more interesting, at the bottom there is a lot of liveliness and goodies, but it is much colder than Black. In Okhotsk, there’s nothing to do without a wetsuit.
                      1. +6
                        24 January 2020 04: 26
                        Well, if necessary, then necessary. You are the author, do as you see fit. Yes
                        The Black Sea also has something to photograph. Including under water. In the "Hobby" section, such photo excursions would come in handy. But alas, something has not grown together, apparently. request It would not be bad to admire the underwater beauties, but such an article will not be missed unless you find some tank or plane under the water. wink
  7. +1
    23 January 2020 20: 36
    Thanks a lot. Very interesting!
  8. +1
    24 January 2020 00: 33
    All his life, Pershing was considered an average tank. I liked the article.
  9. +2
    24 January 2020 00: 40
    The fact that it is impossible to approach and touch the technique is a significant minus for such a museum.
  10. -6
    24 January 2020 02: 23
    So many inaccuracies, technical amateurism, and sometimes even distorting the story, that I’m just dropping my hands ... I won’t criticize this article and point out all the mistakes. But it’s a pity that the site engine does not allow it to be ousted. = _ =
    Although the pictures are good.
    1. +7
      24 January 2020 02: 34
      Quote: Kuroneko
      So many inaccuracies, technical amateurism, and sometimes even distorting the story, that I’m just dropping my hands ... I won’t criticize this article and point out all the mistakes. But it’s a pity that the site engine does not allow it to be ousted.

      Do not hesitate, what is already there. As for the "misrepresentation" of history, I myself do not agree with much of what is said in the information plates for specific exhibits. But this is on the conscience of the Chinese.
    2. +3
      24 January 2020 11: 09
      Quote: Kuroneko
      So many inaccuracies, technical amateurism, and sometimes even distorting history

      1.

      2.
      The one who does nothing is not mistaken. Do not be afraid to make mistakes - be afraid to repeat mistakes.

      - Theodore Roosevelt
      3. Well, this (article) is not a scientific work.
      / Here (on the site) at E. Damantsev F-35 Turkish belay fly around Turkish S-400 and nothing ...
      and Ilya Polonsky
      The latest Russian radar spotted "stealth" fighter F-35, we conclude
      s, and Lavrov saw and counted as many as 6 F-35s over Tehran ..

      It is thirsty and not
      Quote: Kuroneko
      flailing stories
      and not stories. and fakes are golems ...
      and nothing

      Especially since these ("heroes of the article") are Chinese ...

      my opinion is, you got excited.
  11. -3
    24 January 2020 02: 38
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: Kuroneko
    So many inaccuracies, technical amateurism, and sometimes even distorting the story, that I’m just dropping my hands ... I won’t criticize this article and point out all the mistakes. But it’s a pity that the site engine does not allow it to be ousted.

    Do not hesitate, what is already there. As for the "misrepresentation" of history, I myself do not agree with much of what is said in the information plates for specific exhibits. But this is on the conscience of the Chinese.

    Tomorrow. I was barely enough to read the article. Well, really, I really want to sleep.
    But for starters, think of passages about LVT. Sometimes you name them correctly, and sometimes (rather, because it was taken from another source when compiling - you already have a hyphen in the designation of the next LVT model, although the Americans have never used a hyphen in the designation of their ground equipment).
    1. +5
      24 January 2020 02: 44
      Quote: Kuroneko
      But for starters, think of passages about LVT.

      Quote: Kuroneko
      you already have a hyphen in the designation of the next LVT model, although the Americans have never used a hyphen in the designation of their equipment

      It is fundamentally? But the Chinese used their designation.

      What do you say about this?
  12. +2
    24 January 2020 07: 14
    Interesting topic.
    In 30, the USSR sold weapons to the Gamindan to fight Japan, including a batch of T-26 tanks.
    After the victory in 45 over Japan, all the captured Japanese weapons were handed over to the Chinese Communists.
    1. +3
      24 January 2020 10: 33
      The Kuomintang soldiers who remained in the ranks of the T-26 were taken with them to Formosa! And kept in service. There are photos dating back to 1951.
  13. 0
    24 January 2020 13: 47
    During the fighting on the Korean Peninsula, it turned out that the M24 Chaffee and M4 Sherman tanks are very vulnerable to the fire of anti-tank weapons available to the North Korean army and Chinese volunteers. In this regard, the American command wanted to have a tank whose frontal armor at real combat distances could withstand the hit of armor-piercing shells fired from the T-34-85 cannon.

    All American and British tanks were hit very vulnerable, not only from weapons of the period of the Second World War, but also from infantry weapons. M-26 and M-46 participated in the battles from the very beginning together with M24 and Sherman and also suffered heavy losses.
    1. +3
      24 January 2020 15: 53
      In Korea, from the very beginning there were only Chaffee. All other tank models, the Americans had to quickly assemble and send to the war.
      WASPOT.RU
      Andrey Ulanov
      Shortcut Patton in Korea
      The desperate efforts of the ground command and the rather effective work of aviation yielded results. The offensive of the northerners managed to slow down exactly until the moment when the "normal" tank units arrived, armed with, including M46 Patton tanks. The first of these was the 6th tank battalion, which immediately after arrival was sent to the Busan perimeter - the last line of defense of the South Korean and American troops.
      Although the Pattons were at the front, they did not manage to meet the North Korean thirty-fours for some time. The situation changed in the fall of 1950, when the Americans went on the offensive. During these battles, the M46 of the 6th battalion, according to various sources, destroyed from 6 to 9 North Korean T-34–85 and SU-76.
      Then the pendulum swung again in the opposite direction. The "Chinese volunteers" joined the battle and came to the aid of the fellow socialists of North Korea. Retreating, the 6th battalion lost almost all the tanks, and lost them not in battle. According to American data, the tanks were transported by rail, and so that they did not reach the enemy, the train had to be bombed by American aircraft. There is also information that at least several “Pattones” became trophies of the northerners and then ended up in the USSR, where they were subjected to careful study.
      ..................
      However, when the Americans began to study the tanks lost by the northerners, they found 240 vehicles in the occupied territory, of which only 39 were unambiguously destroyed by a tank and three more were “possibly a tank”. Clearly, the share of “Patton” of them are no more than eight T-34–85 and several SU-76. The combat losses of the Americans as of January 1, 1951 amounted to 17 vehicles, of which 11 were destroyed. It is curious that the tanks of the 6th battalion, which were bombed by the Americans themselves, were not included in this list.

      And it turns out that at the very beginning of the war on the Korean Peninsula, the American army had only Chaffee tanks.
  14. +5
    24 January 2020 15: 03

    There is also such an interesting version of the T-34-85 tank with a NURS battery on the tower - an attempt to raise firepower.
    1. +1
      27 January 2020 08: 02
      This is not NURSY this is flamethrowers.
      1. +1
        27 January 2020 08: 16
        TPO-50
  15. +2
    24 January 2020 16: 42
    Sergei hi Thank you for the next interesting and informative article, as always, everything is capacious and to the point. good do not pay attention to the criticism of some characters, often there is no specificity in it, well, either petty nitpicking, and because not many people read your articles, well, not always a wide audience likes cognitive and specialized material request anyway, creative accomplishments to you drinks
  16. +3
    24 January 2020 18: 42
    I also love going to military museums on tour. trips. The armored vehicles of the USSR are elegantly presented in Leningrad-Petersburg.
  17. +1
    24 January 2020 18: 50
    In Korea, from the very beginning there were only Chaffee. All other tank models, the Americans had to quickly assemble and send to the war.

    This is a typical incorrect information that walks from one author to another without verification. M-26 was beaten from the very beginning and they were lost in July 1950.
    1. +1
      27 January 2020 10: 29
      Provide documents on the availability of other models of American tanks in Korea for 1950!
  18. -2
    27 January 2020 06: 43
    I read a long time ago how stupidly about .. whether the secret t 62. Some kind of major decided to show his mother Kuzkin to the Chinese and sat in a puddle.
    1. +2
      27 January 2020 10: 24
      Not a major, but the head of the border detachment, Colonel D. Leonov!
      And you, Dear, on "turns easier"!
      I read a long time ago how stupidly about .. whether the secret t 62. Some kind of major decided to show his mother Kuzkin to the Chinese and sat in a puddle.

      Or are you a witness or participant in the events on about. Daman?
      Baryatinsky Mikhail Borisovich
      T-62. The killer of the Centurions and Olyphant
      ...While the Far Eastern Command asked Moscow for permission to open fire on the Chinese coast, the frontier detachment Colonel D. Leonov decided to strike at the rear of the enemy with the forces of the assigned platoon of T-62 tanks (according to other sources, reconnaissance). Three T-62 tanks entered the Ussuri ice and turned around the Damansky Island, substituting the sides to the enemy. Using this, the Chinese knocked out the lead tank from an RPG-7 hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher. The crew, including Colonel Leonov, died. Two other tanks and border guards withdrew. Only in the evening an order was received from Moscow, which allowed firing on the Chinese coast. On the morning of March 17, a regiment of 122-mm howitzers and a division of Grad installations launched a powerful blow to the island and Chinese territory to a depth of 7 km. After that, the 2nd battalion of the 199th Verkhneudinsky motorized rifle regiment was supported, with the support of a company of T-62 tanks. After a fierce battle, the island was cleared of the enemy. However, the wrecked tank remained on the ice of Ussuri between Damansky Island and the Chinese coast. Despite repeated attempts, it was not possible to evacuate him. In order to prevent the Chinese from evacuating the tank, constant artillery shelling was carried out from our side. As a result, a meter-thick ice burst and the tank sank. Formal privacy measures have been taken. True, the Soviet command did not know that the Chinese scouts entered the wrecked tank the very first night and removed the TSh2B-41 scope and carried out several shells, including armor-piercing-subcaliber. In May, after the ice came down, the Chinese managed to pull the tank to their shore. Subsequently, he was exhibited at the observation deck of the Military Revolutionary Museum in Beijing, where he is still located.
  19. +1
    27 January 2020 11: 39
    Quote: hohol95
    Provide documents on the availability of other models of American tanks in Korea for 1950!

    "Armor debacle in Korea, 1950: Implications for today" on pages 70-71 has a good description of how 3 M-26 Pershing tanks were beaten irrevocably lost in a battle against the 6th KPA division at the end of July 1950. Tank commander Leitenant Fowler was also killed. ... Yeti beat the first American medium tanks which they lost in Korea 16 yul and beat the loss in the first battle with the Korean infantry. The same can be found in the "War in Korea, combat use of tanks" BT series 137. pp. 32-33.
    The battle took place in the district of Jinju on July 28, 1950.
    Then in August 1950 they began to inject M4, M-26, M-46 in large quantities. Only during the period from July 1, 1950 to January 21, 1951 (practically only in 1950) were lost during the fighting in Korea: 87 M-46 Paton, 156 M-26 Pershing, 220 M4 Sherman, 61 M-24 Chefi, 7 Centurion, 4 Churchill, 12 Cromwell and so on, or a total of 576 tanks including 256 irrevocably. There are no self-propelled guns, armored personnel carriers and other armored vehicles - only tanks. This is the official American statistics.
    1. +2
      27 January 2020 13: 27
      Thanks for the answer. But here's what's interesting! There were only 3 M26 in the troops stationed in Japan! The rest were M24! AND FIRSTLY, only "CHAFFY" were in the American units of the troops transferred to the Korean Peninsula. Perhaps the 3 M26 you mentioned were the very same machines from the parts availability in Japan! Agree that 3 such tanks won't make the weather! And the troops of South Korea and the United States were saved only by a gigantic difference in aviation! Without such a mass of American planes in the skies of Korea, the war could have ended differently.
  20. 0
    27 January 2020 17: 19
    Quote: hohol95
    Thanks for the answer. But here's what's interesting! There were only 3 M26 in the troops stationed in Japan! The rest were M24! AND FIRSTLY, only "CHAFFY" were in the American units of the troops transferred to the Korean Peninsula. Perhaps the 3 M26 you mentioned were the very same machines from the parts availability in Japan! Agree that 3 such tanks won't make the weather! And the troops of South Korea and the United States were saved only by a gigantic difference in aviation! Without such a mass of American planes in the skies of Korea, the war could have ended differently.

    1. These three M-26s arrived in Korea on July 16, 1950, less than a month after the start of the war when the M-24 and, in general, American troops there were still few. Already in August 1950, hundreds of tanks and several American divisions took part in the fighting. All the same, only two months passed, and the United States, a state 10 kilometers from Korea, already bore the brunt of this war. In US history, UTB has never been beaten, neither before nor after the Korean War. Think about where the United States was beaten in the second month after Pearl Harbor or after the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait.
    2. Not only 3 but also 300 tanks did not make the weather in Korea. In September, more than 1000 tanks were already beating in the United States, including the vast majority of medium-sized Shermans, Pershinges, and Patons, and the KPA lost almost all of their tanks, but this did not help the wigrat war.
    3. South Korea was "saved" by the unpreparedness of the DPRK and the KPA for a major war and the very belated introduction of China. The DPRK could prepare not a 100-strong, but a millionth army in peacetime, while China could intervene in the war not in four months, but in a week or at least a month after the United States. And then no mass of aircraft, no tanks and no nuclear weapons could help the United States avoid defeat. In November-December 1950, the North Korean and Chinese troops successfully advanced and inflicted a heavy defeat on American troops, with complete American air supremacy over the battlefield and near-field, complete supremacy at sea, without any tanks and without heavy artillery. This is a well-known fact.