Barrier ammunition: search, capture, destruction

Barrier ammunition: search, capture, destruction

The Harpy / Naror family of barrage-guided munitions, developed by Israel Aerospace Industries as an anti-aircraft defense system, is by far the most common


Looking around the corner has always been a dream of any fighter, as this allows him to learn more about a potential threat. An “angle” can be near or far, and a threat can be of a very different nature, for example, static or moving. Today, unmanned aerial vehicles, also called drones, are a typical way to look beyond the horizon. Some of them are even capable of striking thanks to weapons mounted under the wings, for example, missiles of various types and sizes. The integration of the warhead into the drone in order to get something resembling a missile, but capable of flying over the target for a long time before the attack, in fact, conducting long-term observation, led to the appearance of the so-called “barrage of ammunition”. The effectiveness of their attacks on moving targets is quite high, since the operator can remotely decide when and what target to attack, thereby achieving its almost complete defeat.


Harpy Barrage Ammunition at Paris Air Show

One of the first systems developed in the mid-80's by the Israeli company Israel Aerospace Industries was named Harpy. This weapon system to suppress enemy air defense (English, SEAD - Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) has reduced the number of combat aircraft performing such tasks, and, as a result, the risk of being shot down by enemy ground-to-air missiles. An 2,7 meter long deltoid wing apparatus with a 2,1 meter span is equipped with a WELCEL engine UEL AR731 with a power of 38 hp, a rotary pushing screw located in the rear, and 32 kg of explosive is placed in the front compartment. The device launched from the container flies at cruise speed (maximum speed 185 km / h) to the target area (maximum flight range 400-500 km), where it can circle for a couple of hours, choosing a target. The receivers of a fully autonomous apparatus allow you to catch the signals of the control station and direct it to the target. Advanced algorithms are integrated into the homing system, providing a high level of autonomy. At the end of the 2000, IAI, based on its experience with the Harpy project, developed the Nagor apparatus, which integrated the optoelectronic target load and data transmission channel, which introduced an operator into the control loop. The main objective of this unit remains SEAD, although it can be used for other types of purposes. The wingspan increased to 3 meters, and the length to 2,5 meters, the weight of the warhead was reduced to 23 kg, and the range was increased to 1000 km. The newest member of the family is the Harpy NG system, for which the case of the Nagor apparatus was taken. It is equipped with a digital homing head (GOS), covering a wider frequency band of 0,8-18 GHz compared to 2-18 GHz of previous models. Take-off weight is 160 kg, flight duration is about 10 hours. The Harpy / Nagor family is in service with the Israeli army and about 8 countries.


The medium-sized electric drive Green Dragon ME is equipped with radio-frequency and optoelectronic homing heads that allow it to perform SEAD tasks and also attack other types of targets


Equipped only with an optoelectronic seeker, Green Dragon ammunition is smaller than the ME option, but it is also available in a marine configuration

At the end of the 2000's, IAI turned its attention to the tactical sphere and developed smaller ammunition barracks with a smaller radius of action. Green Dragon ME (M - medium size, E - electric) is capable of performing SEAD tasks thanks to the 1-4 GHz radio frequency seeker, the optoelectronic seeker and the communication channel. Glider of traditional design with an inverted V-shaped tail; a station for reconnaissance intelligence is installed in the lower tail of the fuselage. With a maximum take-off weight of about 40 kg, 7-8 kg is assigned to combat equipment. The range of Green Dragon ME is about 50 km, and the time spent in the air is about 90 minutes. The smaller Green Dragon ammunition is equipped with an optoelectronic seeker only. The device without a launch container weighs 15 kg, has a length of 1,6 meters, when deployed, the wingspan is 1,7 meters; it can reach a maximum speed of up to 110 nodes, the patrol speed is 65-85 nodes, flight duration 75 minutes and flight range 40 km. It is equipped with a universal warhead weighing 2,5 kg, which is effective against manpower and armored vehicles. All devices of the family are stacked in a launch container with a length of 2 meters, a diameter of 0,3 meters and a weight of 25 kg. The device leaves it thanks to the pulse engine, then the electric motor is turned on and it flies to the target area on its own. The presence of an operator allows you to interrupt the execution of a task or to start an attack anew; attack methods vary from small to almost vertical angles. Both versions of Green Dragon are fully finished contracts.


The Rotem 1200 is the first in the family of rotorcraft barrage ammunition designed by Israel Aerospace Industries for tactical use.


The portable ammunition of Him-30 developed by Uvision. This Israeli company focused entirely on developing weapons systems of this type.

To further reduce the weight of its products, IAI developed the Rotem 1200 model, the number indicates the mass in grams of warhead, which in this case consists of two M-67 hand grenades. The quadcopter weighs 5,8 kg, the optoelectronic load on the three-axis gyro-stabilized suspension is installed in the front of the fuselage. The whole complex consists of two devices, a ground control station in the form of a tablet, in which a communication center is built-in; the weight of the whole set is 16,7 kg. Instead of a container with combat equipment, a container with a special reconnaissance microstation can be installed in the Rotem 1200; optionally, radio reconnaissance equipment or fire detection sensors can also be installed. The flight range is 10 km, the working altitude is 300 meters, the flight duration is 30 minutes with combat equipment and 45 minutes with a view reconnaissance container, the attack accuracy is less than one meter. The smaller system, known as the Rotem 500, can carry one hand grenade. Both Rotem variants are the only returnable devices in the IAI's range of barricading ammunition. The Rotem 1200 variant is already in operation, and the Rotem 500 is ready for sale. When asked about the "swarm capabilities" of these devices, the IAI representative said that he did not comment on this.


The impact of the HERO-30 ammunition on the final section of the trajectory; attack method is selected according to the type of target

Israeli company UVision is perhaps the only one of the existing companies engaged exclusively in barrage of ammunition. She has developed a family of HERO systems, ranging from tactical, operational, and to strategic models. Her catalog contains 7 systems, although it is clear that only a part of them are truly embodied in serial samples. “At the moment, we have focused on sales of three products - HERO-30, HERO-120 and HERO-400,” the company representative said, emphasizing that the HERO-900 option so far exists only on paper. This option is the only one from the entire line that does not have a cruciform configuration that has become the hallmark of Uvision. The company considers it to be the best solution with increased lifting force, which allows to obtain the optimal duration of flight to the target and during barrage, while ensuring good maneuverability for hitting fixed and moving targets with high accuracy. After leaving the launch container, HERO deploys two pairs of cruciform wings along with propeller blades. A screw and an electric motor are located in the rear of the device, a sensor station with a day and thermal imaging cameras mounted on a three-axis gyrostabilized suspension is located in the nose of the device. Also, the warhead is equipped with a three-mode laser fuse, which can be installed in the following modes: remote, shock and with a delay. UVision optimizes its HERO systems in order to maximize the combat load compared to the size of the device. The company offers its HERO with a standard universal warhead of its own design, however, according to its representative, it is ready to integrate the combat load of third-party manufacturers. “We have already launched a joint development program, the customer has chosen another company.” Although HERO systems are capable of operating in autonomous, semi-autonomous and manual modes depending on the requirements of the task, it is clear that the operator option is definitely the preferred choice, at least in Western countries.


The HERO-120 cruciform configuration is typical of most Uvision ammunition


HERO-400EC main combat ammunition attack pattern tank. The system can attack along a steep trajectory, aiming at the less protected upper part of the MBT

HERO-30 is a lightweight short-range solution for advanced units; The communication channel allows it to be removed at 5 or 10 km, the flight duration is 30 minutes, and the speed is from 50 to 100 nodes. The duration of the barrage over the target area is 20 minutes. The device is launched from a launch tube 0,95 meter long using a low-noise pneumatic system with low thermal signature; the whole kit weighs 7,5 kg. The device itself weighs 3,5 kg, has a length of 780 mm and a wingspan of 800 mm; working heights range from 180 to 450 meters. The attack is carried out along a steep path, while kinetic energy is added to the power of the warhead weighing 500 grams. “HERO-30 is fully operational,” a company spokesman said. “We have signed agreements with some NATO countries and special forces will be the first users of this system.”



Using its experience in developing UAVs, Elbit Systems developed SkyStryker; in the photo the device is installed on its catapult


Elbit Systems SkyStriker ammunition, manufactured according to a traditional aircraft design, can carry a combat load of two standard sizes, larger and smaller, which affects the time of barrage

Another product ordered by a NATO country was first shown at the Paris Air Show in 2019. The larger HERO-120 system has a length of 1340 mm, a wingspan of 1410 mm and a mass of 12 kg, with a warhead weighing 4,5 kg, the flight range is up to 40 km and the flight duration is 60 minutes. The HERO-120 device starts with a rail or a disposable container. Starting from the container is carried out using a high-pressure pneumatic system, in case of termination of the task, the device returns by parachute. In the same way, the HERO-400EC model is launched (the EU is an electric cruciform, unlike the HERO-400 with a gasoline engine and flat wings). This unit is 2100 mm long and with a wingspan of 2400 mm, weighs 40 kg, the flight duration is 2 hours, while the range of 40 or 150 km depends on the installed data channel. Ammunition with 10 kg combat load can barrage over the target area for more than 70 minutes. “Today we have two customers, one from NATO, and the second is a major allied power, both ordered a limited number of systems for operational evaluation.” At a Paris air show, UVision showed a six-container launcher on a light car that can launch HERO-30 and HERO-120; a larger version is available for the HERO-400 model, mounted on JLTV armored vehicles. Another solution is available for this model - launching from the standard MLRS MLRS launch container, which houses two HE-400EC ammunition.

In addition to the aircraft itself, UVision has developed an operator control unit and a set of communication equipment. The customer who has decided to install the complex on the machine is free to decide whether the control system should remain with the launcher or be remote. Training systems and an integrated simulation program are also available to customers.

UVision is looking with interest at any breakthrough in battery technology that would increase flight duration. “Our HERO systems are modular, that is, any improvement in energy storage can be easily integrated into them,” the company representative said. Developers are also considering the use of other types of sensors to meet the requirements of some customers, but so far this is kept secret.


Alpagu aircraft-borne ammunition; Turkish company STM intends to present a finished system at the end of 2019 year


Alpagu from STM and its launch container. The whole system weighs less than 3 kg, and preparation for launch takes place in less than a minute

Having vast experience in the field of mini UAVs, the Israeli company Elbit Systems developed and presented its SkyStriker ammunition, which is structurally a traditional glider with extended wings, at the air show in Paris. With a maximum take-off weight of 40 kg and a range of 40 km, he can take the combat load of 5 or 10 kg and then the flight duration is two or an hour, respectively. The cumulative-fragmentation warhead fuse operates in a delay mode. The aerodynamic characteristics are quite different from the characteristics of the Skylark UAVs, since SkyStriker needs to barrage at low speed and dive at maximum speed. However, Elbit Systems borrowed some components from the UAV, for example, the data transmission channel and the catapult. During the flight, the warhead is not cocked, the operator puts it in a combat position when ready for an attack. However, a full cocking occurs only when the device, when diving, reaches a certain speed and height, and only after that it becomes an explosive device. This allows you to return the device in case of cancellation of the job; at the same time, a visual indicator shows the search group whether the ammunition is cocked or not, which makes it possible to handle it accordingly.

The Turkish company STM has developed two killer drones: an Alpagu aircraft type and a Kargu helicopter type. The Alpagu model is launched from a square container thanks to a pneumatic device. The main wings and the tail unit are deployed after start-up, the electric motor rotates the pushing screw installed in the tail section. The operator controls the device through the video channel; Alpagu itself is able to detect and classify motionless and moving targets, such as cars and people, thanks to image processing algorithms. Here, STM applied its wealth of experience in artificial intelligence. The device is equipped with day and night optical cameras. With a wingspan of 1250 mm and a fuselage length of 700 mm, Alpagu weighs 1,9 kg and can carry 500-600 grams of combat load in the form of a hand grenade manufactured by MKEK; it is possible to equip combat units of other manufacturers. The total mass of the system, which can be ready to launch in less than 45 seconds, is 2,9 kg, cruise speed reaches 50 nodes, and the maximum speed is 65 nodes. The radius of the apparatus is 5 km, the flight duration is 10 minutes, the maximum flight height is 400 meters, and the optimal working height is 150 meters. When attacking a target, Alpagu ammunition dives down at maximum speed, thus adding kinetic energy to the explosive impact on the target. According to STM, Alpagu ammunition, whose weight has been significantly reduced compared to the original prototype, is still being tested and will be ready for deployment at the end of the 2019 year. STM intends to develop an Alpagu-based ammunition family with increased take-off weight and payload, as well as a versatile warhead for maximum operational flexibility.


The first ammunition to enter the arsenal of the Turkish Armed Forces was Kargu. A lightweight quadrocopter developed by the Turkish company STM deployed in the army and special police units

Kargu helicopter-type ammunition is operated by the Turkish army and special police units. The quadrocopter has a take-off weight of 7,06 kg, its electric motors are powered by lithium-polymer batteries, providing 25 minutes in the air. The maximum ceiling is 2800 meters, and the working height is 500 meters above sea level, the range is 5 km, the maximum speed is 72 km / h, but during an attack the dive speed reaches 120 km / h. A variant of the Kargu Block II was also developed, whose weight was reduced to 5 kg while maintaining the carrying capacity and flight duration. But its most distinctive feature is that it can work in a swarm, fly with more than 20 aircraft, following a flight program loaded before launch and diving independently on a target. STM believes this is the first step towards real swarm operations, the second will be the integration of artificial intelligence in order to reduce the load on the operator, the third final step is to get the device to work without a GPS signal and communication channel. STM has developed a new target load for Kargu, including an anti-personnel / fragmentation warhead weighing 1,3 kg, a thermobaric warhead of the same weight, while armor-piercing is in the final stages of qualification.



MBDA began developing Fire Shadow based on the needs of the British Army, but the Department of Defense later closed the program.

Europe, by and large, is not very active in the field of barrage of ammunition. MBDA launched several programs, the most advanced of which was the Fire Shadow project. The development of the device began in 2007, and the first tests passed in the 2010 year. The flight range is 100 km, the patrol time is 6 hours. The project was intended for the British army and was part of the Indirect Fire Precision Attack (Indirect Fire Precision Attack) program, which was ultimately closed in the middle of 2018.


The Warmate drone can easily launch a single operator. Larger Warmate 2 Model Launches from Machine

In Central Europe, things are better. The Polish company WB Group has developed a Warmate ammunition weighing 5,1 kg. A traditional glider with high wings and a V-tail is equipped with a thrust propeller rotating from an electric motor; An on-board battery provides 50 minutes of airborne use. The wingspan of the device is 1590 mm and 1170 mm length, it is launched from a pneumatic catapult and flies at operating altitudes of 100-500 meters, the maximum flight height is 3000 meters, speed varies from 50 to 150 km / h. The coverage area of ​​the encrypted two-way communication channel is 12 km. The device can operate in several modes, for example, after identifying a target, Warmate switches to automatic attack mode, the ammunition is directed at it, bearing a combat load of 1,4 kg, and it strikes a target with a probable circular deviation of 1,5 meter. Three warheads are available: anti-tank GO-1-HEAT, capable of penetrating 120 mm rolled armor, thermobaric GO-1-FAE and high-explosive fragmentation GO-1-HE with a radius of destruction of 10 meters. The Warmate variant is designed for special forces and therefore can be carried by one person, while the much larger Warmate 2 system with a maximum take-off weight of 30 kg is launched from the catapult; the flight duration is 120 minutes and the range is 20 km. The device can be equipped with various warheads: thermobaric and high-explosive fragmentation warheads have a radius of destruction of 40 meters, cumulative is able to penetrate 400 mm rolled armor, the circular deviation for all is 2 meters. The Warmate 2 device was developed jointly with the emirate company Tawazun. This system is installed on the machine together with the ground control station. Poland ordered 1000 Warmate ammunition, the first of which was delivered to special forces in November 2017.

The WB Group also developed the Swarm system, which integrates the Flyeye mini-launch manual drone, used for surveillance and identification, and Warmate ammunition as an executive component. The first batch of Flyeye drones was delivered to the Polish police in December 2018.
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  1. Ironcity 21 November 2019 18: 28 New
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    Solid review. One is depressing
    the front compartment holds 32 kg of explosive.

    How long? When will the authors of VO cease to confuse the weight of the warhead with the weight of the explosives?
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  2. sandman 21 November 2019 18: 44 New
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    Helicopter wing with a grenade.
  3. The leader of the Redskins 21 November 2019 19: 12 New
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    Thanks. Although the review is not complete, it was interesting to read)
  4. knn54 21 November 2019 19: 53 New
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    The ETERNAL theme is a sword and shield competition.
  5. prior 21 November 2019 20: 03 New
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    Drones, robots, barrage of ammunition ....
    Again, everything for the war with the Papuans.
    Inevitable nuclear strike and all these trendy gadgets that the dead poultice ...
    This is what the aggressor must know for sure.
    1. Aaron Zawi 21 November 2019 20: 20 New
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      Quote: prior
      Drones, robots, barrage of ammunition ....
      Again, everything for the war with the Papuans.
      Inevitable nuclear strike and all these trendy gadgets that the dead poultice ...
      This is what the aggressor must know for sure.

      Well, why with the "Papuans"? In any local war, this is very acceptable.
    2. Zeev Zeev 21 November 2019 20: 52 New
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      And were there many nuclear wars in the history of the USSR?
      1. prior 22 November 2019 08: 34 New
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        The first will be the last.
        1. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 08: 37 New
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          Not the fact that the first nuclear war will be the last. Not a fact.
  6. Slavutich 21 November 2019 20: 54 New
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    Were drones developed in the USSR in the 80s?
    1. Lopatov 21 November 2019 21: 08 New
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      Quote: Slavutich
      Were drones developed in the USSR in the 80s?

      Strictly speaking, the Soviet UAV was adopted in the mid-60s
      1. Slavutich 22 November 2019 08: 16 New
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        Very interesting,
        thank you
      2. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 08: 39 New
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        And which Soviet UAV was adopted in the mid-1960s?
        1. Lopatov 22 November 2019 10: 07 New
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          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          And which Soviet UAV was adopted in the mid-1960s?

          Tu-123.
          With a cruising speed of 2.5 M, a range of 3600 km and a flight altitude of up to 22800 km

          The one that scared NATO so much that they forced it to adopt the INF Treaty with the following wording
          "The term "cruise missile" means an unmanned vehicle equipped with its own propulsion system, the flight of which over most of its trajectory is achieved through the use of aerodynamic lift. "
          Because it was created on the basis of the shock Tu-121

          Well, then the Americans began to pretend that "we have nothing to do with, and this wording does not apply to UAVs"
          1. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 10: 23 New
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            Tu-123? I did not know about this miracle of judo. Probably because of its rarity and quick removal from service (long before 1987, when the INF Treaty was signed). I googled here, and it theoretically pulls on UAVs, but practically this is a one-time photo reconnaissance apparatus, unlike the 34 AQM-1958 Firebee, which flew lower, more slowly, but was cheaper, reusable and with real-time image transmission .
            1. Lopatov 22 November 2019 10: 35 New
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              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              Probably because of its rarity

              52 pieces. Two dozen more than the SR-71

              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              but practically it’s a disposable camera for photo reconnaissance

              In practice, this is a chance for the Powers.

              See what a difference. Someone doing an expensive unmanned reconnaissance aircraft. Others - a cheap explosive device that does not allow the pilot to catapult over enemy territory.

              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              long before 1987, when the INF Treaty was signed

              His descendants are still exploited.
              Ukraine.
              1. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 11: 17 New
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                For 52 years, these 8 pieces were written off as scrap, replacing the MiG-25R. It seemed a little expensive to send an expensive disposable device to reconnaissance missions. U-2 was used until the 2000s.
                1. Lopatov 22 November 2019 11: 28 New
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                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  For 52 years, these 8 pieces were written off as scrap, replacing the MiG-25R.

                  It was just that it was safe to fly the MiG-25 at that time. Israel in the know 8))))))))))))))

                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  It seemed a little expensive to send an expensive disposable device to reconnaissance missions.

                  Right Cheaper to send a pilot with a charge under an ejection seat and a coin with a poisoned needle
                  1. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 12: 52 New
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                    As for the MiG-25, Israel will confirm. After several flights, Soviet agents leaked information about a possible purchase of the Nike Hercules air defense systems in the United States and the flights abruptly stopped.
                    About U-2. The charge was behind the pilot's seat, to undermine the cameras. We would like to guarantee to kill the pilot, just cut the slings of the parachute.
                    1. Lopatov 22 November 2019 12: 58 New
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                      Quote: Zeev Zeev
                      After several flights

                      Which should be proved

                      Quote: Zeev Zeev
                      Soviet agents leaked information about a possible purchase of the Nike Hercules air defense systems in the United States and flights abruptly stopped.

                      Lies.
                      Flights ceased due to the Egyptians. Which insisted on striking. Which was easy to implement, but Moscow found this unacceptable.

                      Quote: Zeev Zeev
                      We would like to guarantee to kill the pilot, just cut the slings of the parachute.

                      What if he checks?
                      Yes, and here it was not particularly successful, the pilot found out about this and did without bailouts.
                      1. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 15: 08 New
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                        Yeah. Strongly the Egyptians asked the Soviet)))
                        Can I tell you how to check the parachute (which you DO NOT fold yourself) without opening?
                      2. Lopatov 22 November 2019 15: 29 New
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                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Yeah. Strongly the Egyptians asked the Soviet)))

                        As many as the Israelis asked the Americans

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                        Can I tell you how to check the parachute (which you DO NOT fold yourself) without opening?

                        And who said that "without opening and" you yourself do not add up?
                        Firstly, they are regularly re-laid, and secondly, a pilot may be present.
                      3. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 15: 38 New
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                        Could you elaborate on the "American" in Israel? Where were they based, when, and what combat missions did they carry out?
                      4. Lopatov 22 November 2019 16: 24 New
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                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Could you elaborate on the "American" in Israel?

                        And this is here from which side?

                        We have the facts. Soviet plane over Israel. Israeli popol. Legend of the "super smart splitters" who deceived stupid Russians. Created in order to muffle this popabol.

                        In real life, they simply decided not to complicate the already complicated relations with Egypt, whose leadership believed that the USSR did not support them sufficiently. But the old popol does not allow this to be recognized.

                        So you have to come up with that the flights were stopped due to lies, in which the gullible fools believed. And not because of unwillingness to follow Nasser's lead and escalate the conflict during negotiations with Kissinger, who is in Moscow
                      5. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 18: 45 New
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                        Super-smart scouts? No, they just leaked the info in all the wells, right down to the newspapers. And the flights as if by magic stopped. Coincidence? I don’t think so. And then the fighters took out altogether. Two years later, the flights resumed, because Moscow realized that Israel would not buy new air defense systems. And they were already interrupted for political reasons.
                      6. Lopatov 22 November 2019 19: 00 New
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                        Quote: Zeev Zeev
                        Super-smart scouts? No, they just leaked the info in all the wells, right down to the newspapers. And the flights as if by magic stopped. Coincidence? I don’t think so.

                        Well, of course. Of course, Henry Kissinger has nothing to do with Moscow. Who is he anyway? Rumors in the newspaper are much, much more important. laughing laughing laughing
                        Well, about the stupid Russian, two years checking the presence of air defense systems in Israel, just shydevre laughing laughing laughing

                        I have long noticed that the Israeli propaganda campaign does not particularly respect its target audience. This, damn it, not even splint ... This is a calculation for the complete absence of reason
  • Slavutich 23 November 2019 14: 02 New
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    It seems that Ukrainians used it in the Donbass: militias shot down
  • Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 08: 41 New
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    What is called a drone in the USSR was adopted in 1990. It was called "Bee-1"
  • Astronaut 21 November 2019 23: 01 New
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    I don’t understand, but where does the use as "the system of suppressing enemy air defense" be used here?
    It is quite possible to use against jihadmobiles and even against tanks, but how will this system fight against air defense, will such a slow-moving ship get out of small arms?
    1. psiho117 21 November 2019 23: 59 New
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      and how this system will be at war with air defense, such a slow-moving boat gets out of small arms

      They didn’t beat them even when the Karabakh was pressed by Azerbots - and the Armenians had both air defense and electronic warfare there, to no avail. Humming constantly over the positions, and fell on his head.
      1. Lopatov 22 November 2019 12: 58 New
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        Quote: psiho117
        and the Armenians there had both air defense and electronic warfare

        laughing laughing laughing
  • Azimuth 21 November 2019 23: 25 New
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    We block the transmission of information to the operator, gps is suppressed by electronic warfare and 95% of the sophisticated technology becomes an uncontrollable blind projectile of several hundred thousand. And also the answer can fly back to the operator.
    1. Saxahorse 21 November 2019 23: 56 New
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      Quote: Azimut
      We block the transmission of information to the operator, gps is suppressed by electronic warfare and 95% of the sophisticated technology becomes an uncontrollable blind projectile

      We put a passive guidance system on the drone and he himself, without any operators, will find both a jammer, electronic warfare and air defense radars too. :)
      1. Azimuth 22 November 2019 13: 10 New
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        Yeah, and put artificial intelligence in there, an inertial guidance system, a terrain recognition system with a thermal imaging system and a GOS. And such a fool as we crave into the sky for 250000 green.
        1. Zeev Zeev 22 November 2019 15: 10 New
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          The inertial and the homing head will now cost thousands of ten bucks. Everything else is about the same amount. In total, an order of magnitude less than the declared amount of a quarter of a million.
    2. Serg4545 22 November 2019 06: 42 New
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      // One of the first systems developed in the mid-80s //

      And in general, the question remained outside the brackets:
      And what is the effectiveness of a barrage of ammunition?
      But such systems have been developed for about 35 years. And where are the statistics?
      In my opinion, an attack drone is an order of magnitude more effective than a barrage of ammunition.
      A drone can perform absolutely all the functions of a barrage of ammunition, and even much better.
      Unlike expensive barrage-guarding ammunition, a drone hits a target with a relatively cheap laser-guided missile. And an expensive opto-electronic filling, to be on a drone and return to the base (well, and not used up ammunition, also savings!).
      My opinion:
      If you have drone drone, then you do not need barrage ammunition.
      1. Ironcity 22 November 2019 14: 02 New
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        Impact drones still operate in the interests of sufficiently large units or support special forces in particularly important missions. And in the review there are models of light barrage of ammunition that can be used at the company or platoon level.
      2. Saxahorse 22 November 2019 23: 38 New
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        Quote: Serg4545
        And where are the statistics?

        Have we had at least one world war in these 35 years? Ugh ugh ugh of course .. Systems designed to suppress powerful air defense systems certainly do not use in wars against small barmaley.

        However, the immediate ancestors of these systems were (and are). This is for example Shriki and the like anti-radar missiles. Shriiki more than confirmed their effectiveness, and the radars learned to turn on for a very short time and then turn off. In response, barrage of ammunition was born that could spend hours patrolling a given area, waiting for someone to suddenly turn on with a fool. laughing
  • Svetlana 21 November 2019 23: 30 New
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    I don’t understand, but where does the use as "the system of suppressing enemy air defense" be used here?


    Read it carefully again and see the answer: "One of the first systems developed in the mid 80s Israeli company Israel Aerospace Industries, received the name Harpy. This weapon system to suppress enemy air defense "

    In the mid-eighties there was no modern technique for detecting and destroying low-flying drones. And from Kalash to get into such a drone is easy only theoretically.
    1. Saxahorse 21 November 2019 23: 59 New
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      And from Kalash to get into such a drone is easy only theoretically.

      The Syrian Shell was destroyed with the help of Harpy. It is difficult to get into this infection not only from Kalash.
  • Saxahorse 21 November 2019 23: 59 New
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    Excellent and very relevant review. Thanks to the author!
  • Klingon 22 November 2019 00: 44 New
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    there in the picture Hero ammunition flies to the tank ... well, and if the tank is KAZ? he will work on it as well as on some ATGM if I am not mistaken. KAZ radar will detect the approaching Khrestovin and shoot a cartridge with striking elements
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      This is if it does not hit the tank from above. Most KAZ operate horizontally.
  • Klingon 22 November 2019 00: 47 New
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    Quote: Saxahorse
    Quote: Svetlana
    And from Kalash to get into such a drone is easy only theoretically.

    The Syrian Shell was destroyed with the help of Harpy. It is difficult to get into this infection not only from Kalash.

    Have you seen a video of the attack on the Shell? there the shell simply stood with the trunks down and even the operator was not there. He stupidly did NOT work, either due to the fact that he was already empty, having shot the entire BC, or the dudes went out to pray, criminally leaving the fighting post
  • Whisper 22 November 2019 02: 21 New
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    Great review! Thanks to the author! And where are our flying ammunition?
    1. Nikolaevich I 22 November 2019 03: 58 New
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      Quote: Sheptun
      where are our flying ammunition?

      Will be! "Lancet"...
      1. nikolai.kolya 22 November 2019 16: 10 New
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        Will be!

        in the pictures
  • Klingon 23 November 2019 10: 37 New
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    Quote: sen
    This is if it does not hit the tank from above. Most KAZ operate horizontally.

    Well, there in the picture it flies up just at a slight angle to the horizon. But it seems like Afghanit works not only horizontally, or am I mistaken?