Combat aircraft. "Aunt Yu": strange, but useful

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If you look at the memoirs about the Second World War, the bulk of the memories will be like a completely outdated low-speed three-engine aircraft. In fact, the devil is in the details, and under the marking Ju.52 hides somewhat more than an old plane with a fixed gear.





Let's go in order.

I will not sin at all against the truth, saying that "Aunt Yu" became one of the first multi-purpose aircraft in the world.



Yes, the details are a strong and difficult thing. And the thing is in the numbers after the usual abbreviations.

Corrugated sheathing, fixed gear, slow and unpretentious - this was the plane we used to think of as Ju.52. More precisely, about Ju.52 / Зm. Three-engine version (there was a single-engine).



A strange and somewhat archaic design, however, this aircraft has made so much that it is difficult to compete with many real combat aircraft.

Ours is story started in 1933, when the modification Ju.52 / 3m-g appeared, which became the first really large-scale. Engines from Pratt and Whitney were replaced by BMW-132A-1. In general, actually unlicensed "Hornet" from the same "Pratt and Whitney" capacity 660 l / s.

The Ju.52 / 3m-ge had a top speed of 290 km / h. This, of course, was a minuscule, but for the civilian model the maximum speed was not so important, but the fact that the plane was easily converted into a transport or bomber was very valuable.



This played a role, because before the start of commercial sales, Junkers received an order to remake the aircraft into a bomber.

October 1933. The so-called auxiliary bomber squadron is being created by the newly formed air commissariat. This can generally be called as the formation of a bomber aviation Luftwaffe, and the Luftwaffe itself.

In general, according to the initial plan, it was planned to arm the entire bomber aircraft with a Dornier Do.11 aircraft, and the Junkers Ju.52 was considered only as an interim solution.

Combat aircraft. "Aunt Yu": strange, but useful

Dornier Do.11


But it turned out that Dornier was not able to teach how to fly its plane, it went into a series with delays and problems, so much so that by the reporting date 1 of March 1933, the bombing squadron had three Do.11c, but the Junkers Ju.52 was 24.



It so happened that the Junkers was ready to rivet the 52 at a completely Stakhanov pace, which is what happened in practice.

And everything turned out to be very simple. Converting the transport Ju.52 / 3m-g3e into a bomber was a snap.

The hatch just cut through the fuselage and an open turret with one MG-15 machine gun was installed in it.



To protect against attacks from below, there was a “basket” partially retractable in flight with another MG-15. This shooting point could be pulled into the fuselage by half by hand.



The “basket” point was attached to the glazed cockpit of the scorer, which was located between the bomb bay. There were three bomb bays: two in front and one in the back. Each bomb bay contained a DSAC / 250 cassette for 10 kg bombs or two 50 bombs.

Thus, the bomb load was 1 500 kg. The fuel reserve in the 2 475 l provided a tactical range of 500 km at a cruising speed of 245 km / h at an altitude of 1000 m.



It is clear that all these alterations very easily rolled back to the transport version.

The transport variant Ju.52 / 3m-g3 was the first to take part in the hostilities. Of course, it was Spain. 20 Junkers made an 1936 flight in July-August 461, sending 7350 infantry, artillery pieces and machine guns from Africa to Spain. At the same time, aircraft made 461 flights, often overloaded. Another 5455 person was transported on 324 flights in September. And in October, another 1157 people were transported in 83 flights.



Hitler rightly remarked:
"Franco must erect a monument to Ju.52. This aircraft owes the victory of the revolution in Spain."


While the transport "Junkers" transported from France replenishment into the army of Franco, their bomber colleagues accepted their baptism. The first use occurred on August 14: Ju.52 / 3m-g3 bombed the Getafe airfield near Madrid.



And on August 27 and 28, Madrid became the target of Ju.52 / 3m, and it turned out to be a very difficult situation. It turned out that both Ju.52 / 3m with bombs and Ju.52 / 3m with passengers flew to Madrid at the same time, as Lufthansa continued to operate passenger flights to Spain.

In general, the combat use of Ju.52 / 3m-g3е and g4е showed that the aircraft turned out to be successful. And the real large-scale construction began and in parallel the modification of the aircraft.

Ju.52 / 3m-g5 has become even more versatile. The plane received a rear wheel instead of a “crutch”, a ski landing gear for the winter period and floats. Defensive armament changed, instead of a “basket”, which greatly degraded aerodynamics, they put two MG-15 machine guns on the sides, and the “basket” was removed. Ju.52 / 3m-g5е received BMW-132T-2 engines with 830 hp power, the exhaust gases of which were used in the anti-icing system.


Junkers with Heinkel floats





Winter option


And, of course, the leadership of the Luftwaffe was waiting for the moment when all these innovations could be effectively applied. And it waited. In the Weserubung operation, the Junkers proved to be just wonderful, having thrown six companies of paratroopers, one landing and airborne battalion and three infantry battalions to Norway. In addition, the aircraft carried six companies of airfield maintenance personnel, the headquarters of the aviation forces, the headquarters of the infantry regiment and more than 168 tons of fuel.



Among other things, by the beginning of the active phase of World War II, Ju.52 / 3m mastered the profession of a mine minesweeper. On the basis of Ju.52 (g4е, g5е, g6е, g7е and g8е models) six squadrons of "mine seekers" were formed, for which the letters MS were used in the specifications.



Most Ju.52 / 3m (MS) was equipped with a large duralumin ring on the struts under the wing and fuselage. The winding in the ring was powered by an auxiliary motor, providing current in 300 amperes. Other Ju.52 / 3m (MS) were equipped with KK-Gerat containers with 30 small charges for trawling acoustic mines. Most of the minesweeper squadrons had equally both.



It was applied like this: three Ju.52 / 3m with magnetic windings flew in a wedge formation. Behind them flew Ju.52 / 3m with subversive charges. The flight speed was usually 200 km / h. The height depended on the depth of the sea. The optimal distance to the mine was 40 m, so if the depth was 30 m, then the planes flew at an altitude of 10 m. The application showed high efficiency of such trawling, but losses began immediately, as the enemy began to “educate” the Junkers pilots.

Since the minesweepers were appreciated in the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine, measures were taken to strengthen defensive weapons. Instead of the top machine gun, a circular turret with a MG-151 / 20 cannon was installed, and the side MG-15 were replaced by large-caliber MG-131. The minesweeper became a very "toothy" aircraft.

But the gun did not go as standard. We decided that it would be greasy. And in the modification Ju.52 / 3m-g8е, instead of the top MG-15 machine gun, MG-131 was installed.

In general, for the re-equipment of Ju.52 / 3m in solving various problems, seven standard “field conversion kits” were used that could be installed in operational units.

That is, the aircraft could be changed to fulfill specific tasks, and the use of such a set was indicated by an additional letter.

E - the aircraft was equipped for loading, securing and unloading / ejecting containers.
F - landing aircraft.
H - training aircraft.
N is a cargo plane.
R is a connected plane.
S - ambulance.
St - aircraft for the transport of technical personnel.

In the 1942 year, Ju.52 / 3m-g9е, a glider towing vehicle, went into the series. We took into account the experience of European landing operations, significantly strengthening the landing gear and regularly putting the towing system itself. Another subspecies in the already decent list of “professions”.

The finest hour "Aunt U" came in January 1942, when the Red Army surrounded the 100-thousandth group of the Wehrmacht near the town of Demyansk. In order to establish supplies for the encircled forces, the German command took away planes even from Rommel in Africa, which unwittingly accelerated the collapse of the Africa corps.

But, nevertheless, the Germans managed to create an air bridge and during the period from February 21 to May 18, eleven air transport groups made 14 445 flights, transported 24 303 tons of cargo, 3142 tons of fuel, 15 445 people and evacuated 22 093 wounds.

This is not to say that everything was smooth and smooth. Yes, our army did not then have experience in such operations, because the Demyansky Cauldron can rightly be counted as the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe.

However, 265 aircraft lost by the Luftwaffe during the operation - this is also a lot. It is worth noting that the proper conclusions were made by our command, and when the Germans set out to help the encircled Paulus army in Stalingrad in the same way, you yourself know how the matter ended.

The Luftwaffe losses near Stalingrad are estimated at about 500 aircraft, of which 266 were Ju.52 / 3m. It is very difficult to recover from such losses.





Nevertheless, the Ju.52 / 3m reached the end of the war as an airborne transport aircraft, all the more so since its production was on the increase, due to the fact that it began to be collected in decent quantities at French enterprises. The German command connected the Amio concern to the case, and the process began.

Thanks to the work of the French, the assembly of Ju.52 / Зm in 1943 increased to 900 aircraft, with the 321 machine made in France and the Hungarian allies assembled around 30.

The last production version of Aunt U, Ju.52 / 3m-g14е, was put into production in late autumn of the 1943 year and was produced until the middle of the 1944 year. This was the last modification of the aircraft, and then production ceased.

In total, from the beginning of the 1939 year, 3225 military aircraft were produced, and the total release of Ju.52 / Зm was 4845.

Compared to the fighters that were produced by tens of thousands, this is not much. Nevertheless, the aircraft became the main means of air cargo delivery for the Third Reich. North Africa, Demyansk, Stalingrad, Crimea, Kamyanets-Podilskyi, where the 1st tank the army of the Wehrmacht, Breslau ... In general, "Aunt Yu" has become a kind of symbol of last hope for surrounded German soldiers. And the farther towards the end of the war, the more this happened.



The latest case of the massive successful use of Ju.52 / 3m was the offensive operation in the Ardennes, "Watch on the Rhine." The weather was not the most favorable, but nevertheless the Junkers were able to throw airborne assaults in the rear of the American troops.

It is clear that at the end of the war the pilots were no longer those at the beginning, and the landing was thrown over a larger territory than planned. Nevertheless, in the process of reaching their paratroopers, they were able to "make a noise."

In general, Ju.52 / 3m went through the “from bell to bell” war. And it became the same paradox as Po-2, since it completely did not meet any requirements of the time. Nevertheless, even in this case, the aircraft brought tangible benefits.

LTX Ju.52 / Зm-g7е

Wingspan, m: 29,30
Length, m: 18,90
Height, m: 5,55
Wing area, м2: 110,00

Weight, kg
- empty aircraft: 6 500
- normal takeoff: 10 500

Engines: 3 x BMW-132T-2 x 830 l. from.
Maximum speed km / h: 285
Cruising speed, km / h: 250
Practical range, km: 1090
Maximum rate of climb, m / min: 175
Practical ceiling, m: 5 900
Crew, prs: 3
Payload: 18 passengers / landing or 1500 kg cargo

Armament:
- one 7,92-mm machine gun MG-15 or 13-mm MG-131 on the upper turret
- one MG-15 above the cockpit
- two MG-15 or MG-131 in the side windows
- 10 bombs on 50 kg bombs or 2 bombs 250 kg.

It is surprising when looking at the LTH that “Aunt Yu” was able to fly through the whole war, and even not as a target, but bringing real benefits. By the way, our plane also worked after the war.



After the war ended, the aircraft was manufactured in France (before the 1947 year) and Spain (before the 1952 year), about 1000 machines that worked until the 70 of the last century were produced.
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  1. +1
    16 September 2019 18: 22
    Interesting plane. However, the popularity of An2 is far from him. Although the maize was created after the war.
    1. +7
      17 September 2019 04: 02
      Quote: 210ox
      However, he is far from the popularity of An2

      ????? Very subjective. And if you ask the French and Spaniards about this, I think that their opinion will be the opposite.
  2. +6
    16 September 2019 18: 33
    An interesting article about an ambiguous plane, only now
    Three-engine version (there was a single-engine).
    Isn't it twin-engine, will it pull on one engine? Or am I confusing Savoy?
    1. +10
      16 September 2019 18: 43
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      An interesting article about an ambiguous plane, only now
      Three-engine version (there was a single-engine).
      Isn't it twin-engine, will it pull on one engine? Or am I confusing Savoy?

      One thing ...
      1. 0
        16 September 2019 18: 49
        One motor and twin-bladed propeller on a passenger plane - fantastic
        1. +1
          19 September 2019 09: 19
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          One motor and twin-bladed propeller on a passenger plane - fantastic

          Yes, not really ... KhAI-3 with one 100-horsepower motor drove 11 passengers against 16 Yu.52-single-engine.



          Although, of course, the cargo capacity is incomparable.
          1. 0
            19 September 2019 09: 24
            Quote: Avis-bis
            Not really...

            Yes, I'm more with sarcasm))
    2. +17
      16 September 2019 18: 54

      Junkers Ju 52 / 1m. Released 6 pieces. BMW VII engine, 685 hp Take-off weight 7000 kg, payload 3000 kg. Speed ​​- 160 km / h. Crew - 2 people.
      1. +1
        19 September 2019 07: 01
        Quote: Undecim
        Released 6 pieces. BMW VII engine

        Well, in this series, almost every side had its own type of engine. :) Three or four options is for sure.
        1. 0
          19 September 2019 07: 17
          Four. BMW VIIaU, Junkers L88, Armstrong Siddeley Leopard, Junkers Jumo 4.
          1. 0
            19 September 2019 08: 34
            Quote: Undecim
            Four.

            In-in. :)
    3. +3
      16 September 2019 20: 02
      Single engine. The replica is now in the Royal Aviation Museum of Western Canada
      http://royalaviationmuseum.com/junkers-ju-52-cf-arm/
      photo from the museum:


      and preserved historical photo:
    4. 0
      18 September 2019 15: 46
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      Three-engine version (there was a single-engine).
      Isn't it twin-engine, will it pull on one engine? Or am I confusing Savoy?

      However...
      Bei der Junkers Ju 52 handelte es sich ursprünglich um die Entwicklung eines einmotorigen, wenn moglich mit einem Diesel engine ausgerüsteten frachtflugzeuges, das in Gegenden mit schlechter Infrastruktur große Frachtmengen befördern sollte. Dabei wurde großer Wert auf einen geringen Wartungsaufwand gelegt. Die Entwicklung der Ju 52 konnte seitens des Reichswehrministeriums (RWM) dahingehend beeinflusst werden, dass militärische Belange bei der Konstruktion berücksichtigt wurden. Bereits in den Planungen wurde auch eine dreimotorige Version als Verkehrsflugzeug entworfen, die aber ursprünglich nicht gebaut werden sollte. Erst auf Druck der Deutschen Luft Hansa, besonders durch Direktor Erhard Milch, fiel 1931 die Entscheidung, dieses dreimotorige Verkehrsflugzeug in das Bauprogramm mit aufzunehmen.
      ([media = https: //de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_52/3m])
      Taki 1 diesel!
  3. +5
    16 September 2019 18: 42
    Air worker wars ... On the other hand, but de facto.
  4. +6
    16 September 2019 18: 45
    The famous airplane, the trouble-free backlash horse, it’s a pity that we didn’t have such a thing, LI 2 and Douglas are a good thing, but there were very few of them at the beginning of the war.
  5. +6
    16 September 2019 19: 01
    Nothing special, the usual air truck of its time. We also Li-2 was a bomber and a transporter. When our squeezed in Leningrad with food, the TB-3 divisions were turned into transporters for food delivery.
    1. +3
      17 September 2019 00: 26
      Quote: Ros 56
      Nothing special, the usual air truck of its time. We also Li-2 was a bomber and a transporter. When our squeezed in Leningrad with food, the TB-3 divisions were turned into transporters for food delivery.


      During World War II the following joke went:
      "Why is the Li-2 so fat, the Il-2" hunchbacked "and the" pawn "so thin?
      Because Li-2 was speculating the whole war, the attack aircraft carried the war on himself,
      and the "pawn" was thrown at scouts, then at fighters, then at dive bombers)))

      PS The third engine of the Yu-52 seems superfluous - it looks ugly
      1. +1
        18 September 2019 15: 50
        Quote: Minato2020
        PS The third engine of the Yu-52 seems superfluous - it looks ugly

        Initially, it was just the only one: the Germans were forbidden by Versailles to build two or more motor vehicles!
        1. 0
          19 September 2019 07: 07
          Quote: PilotS37
          Germans were forbidden by Versailles to build two or more motor vehicles!

          No, the Germans were limited in motor power, not in quantity.
    2. +1
      17 September 2019 21: 08
      And I was told that the Li-2 is an American aircraft, but licenses were issued in the Soviet Union
      1. +3
        18 September 2019 03: 43
        Li-2 is DC-3, produced in the USSR under license with some modifications ...
      2. +1
        18 September 2019 08: 32
        They correctly said that it was redesigned from our passenger PS-84, which in turn was built under the license of the American DS-3, but from this it did not cease to be Li-2, since the military version began to be released in 1942 in Tashkent, where it’s hands and the chief engineer Lisunov put his head.
        1. 0
          18 September 2019 15: 57
          Quote: Ros 56
          Correctly said, recycled from our passenger PS-84

          No! PS-84 is Li-2: before the war, we only have Tupolev planes sometimes they called him by name (ANT), but Yakovlev called his airplanes in honor of Comrade Narkom Comrade. A.I. Rykova (AIR).
          Assigning the names of the aircraft designers began only in the war, so we had Po-2, but there was no Po-16 and Po-153. Although they should have ...
          1. +1
            19 September 2019 07: 28
            Quote: PilotS37
            Assigning the names of the aircraft designers began only in the war

            Now OKA-38, LaGG, MiG-1 (pr. NKAP # 704 from December-1940), all Kalinin machines (from the 1920s), Sh-2, Che-2 are a little surprised ... -5 ("passenger Rafaelyantsa"). All of Gribovsky's designs were indexed "G - ##" and I don’t think this is due to the fact that all his aircraft were cargo aircraft. :)
            And the ANT indexes were retained only for the aircraft that did not enter service. The only exception is the ANT-20 "Maxim Gorky", although it is understandable - the machine is experimental in nature. The second ANT-20 was already on the way as PS-124. And the rest of the ANT were also in operation various PS - ##, SB, TB- #, R- #, G - # ...
            1. 0
              19 September 2019 10: 20
              Quote: Avis-bis
              Now a little surprised OKA-38, LaGG, MiG-1 (NKAP av. No. 704 from December-1940), all Kalinin cars (from the 1920s), Sh-2, Che-2 ...

              Yes, while frowning, he frowned. Renaming began in the fall of 1940.
              But Sh-2 - indeed, from the very beginning, from the 1920s. was exactly "Sh-2".
              But LaGG-3 and MiG-1 were designed as I-301 and I-200, respectively. Che-2 is originally MDR-6. And the OKA-38 was an experimental machine and made its first flight exactly on the eve of the introduction of new designations.
              All the same, all production vehicles (with the exception of some of the Yakovlev air carriers and Sh-2) until October 1940 were not named by our designers.
              1. 0
                19 September 2019 10: 58
                Quote: PilotS37

                But LaGG-3 and MiG-1 were designed as I-301 and I-200, respectively.

                I kind of know. So, is the Su-27 not the Su-27, but the T-10? And the Tu-16 is "88" and not the Tu-16? And the F-35 is not an F-35, but strictly JSF? You never know what and under what index began ... The Tu-95 at first was Tu-20 with the internal KB-shny index "95". Actually, initially I only showed that the names of the designer began to be given before the Second World War and the MiG-1, LaGG and other official names, despite the original indexes.
                Che-2 is originally MDR-6

                This MDR-6 was originally Che-2. "MDR-6" is only the naval designation of the aircraft, which was also produced under the open civilian index Che-2:
                "Most of the production aircraft, designated Che-2, were produced with M-63 engines."


                And the OKA-38 was an experimental machine and made its first flight exactly on the eve of the introduction of new designations.

                It does not matter. He received a "name" index before the war. And only the war prevented the start of its release, because it was planned to release it in Riga. :(

                All the same, all production vehicles (with the exception of some of the Yakovlev air carriers and Sh-2) until October 1940 were not named by our designers.

                That is, the most massive (not just serial, even) Soviet passenger pre-war aircraft is deciphered as "Kaganovich-5" or "Clement-5"?
                Prior to this order of the NKAP, serial aircraft with the names of the designers were few, but they were.
                1. 0
                  19 September 2019 15: 04
                  Quote: Avis-bis
                  Quote: PilotS37

                  But LaGG-3 and MiG-1 were designed as I-301 and I-200, respectively.

                  I kind of know. So, is the Su-27 not the Su-27, but the T-10? And the Tu-16 is "88" and not the Tu-16? And the F-35 is not an F-35, but strictly JSF? You never know what and under what index began ...

                  Do not distort! T-10 is an internal index (the same about Tu-16), and I-301 is the official designation of the vehicle, which was later also officially changed to LaGG-3.
                  And JSF is not the name of the aircraft at all - it is a "program" within the framework of which flying prototypes X-35 and X-32 were presented for the competition. The victorious X-35 became the F-35.

                  At first, the Tu-95 was originally a Tu-20 with an internal KB-shnom index "95".

                  Tu-95 was never Tu-20 - only its plastic models were called that: [media = https: //sturmvoge1.livejournal.com/20578.html]
                  1. 0
                    19 September 2019 16: 38
                    Quote: PilotS37

                    Do not distort!

                    Do not get excited like that, don’t, this is harmful for the nervous s-we.
                    T-10 is an internal index (the same about Tu-16), and I-301 is the official designation of the vehicle, which was later also officially changed to LaGG-3.
                    And JSF is not the name of the aircraft at all - it is a "program" within the framework of which flying prototypes X-35 and X-32 were presented for the competition. The victorious X-35 became the F-35.

                    I also know about it. I just gave an example of leapfrog indices, when at first the plane was called so, and then in a different way, so to speak, "to support the conversation", and you are immediately in the bottle. You have to be more restrained. Well, I don't like the T-10 / Su-27, look how the Su-34 was called before. :) Just don't catch a stroke.
                    After all, ANT-6 is also, in fact, an "internal index". In operation, it was called either TB-3 or G-2. The same is with ANT-40 / PS-40, ANT-35 / PS-35 and all others.
                    Tu-95 was never Tu-20

                    Was, was. Read Sergey Moroz. Decree of the Council of Ministers of July 11, 51 for No. 2396-1137 + Order of the MAP No. 654.
                    his plastic models were called

                    ... and not from scratch, I must say. I don’t remember that foreigners misnamed any of our other aircraft. Only, damn it, the Tu-95 got screwed, right? :) Well, they called the "backlashes" at first the La-5 "super-rata", but this is, after all, the specific conditions of the Great Patriotic War ... But the MiG-23 MiG-39 was not called the same ...
                    Simply, by the time the assembly of the first prototype began, so many blueprints with the marking "95" had accumulated that the Tu-20 became the Tu-95th.
                    1. 0
                      19 September 2019 16: 57
                      Quote: Avis-bis
                      Restraint must be. Well, I do not like the T-10 / Su-27, look at what the Su-34 used to be called. :)

                      I will not catch! Since I know ...
                      1. 0
                        19 September 2019 17: 02
                        Quote: PilotS37

                        I will not catch! Since I know ...

                        Well, and goodies ... laughing
      3. +1
        18 September 2019 15: 55
        Quote: Astra wild
        And I was told that the Li-2 is an American aircraft, but licenses were issued in the Soviet Union

        And there is!
        But just before release, the entire structure was counted according to Soviet Airworthiness Standards, and the drawings were transferred from feet to meters.
        For a long time it was called PS-84 (Passenger Aircraft Plant No. 84).
        This work was supervised by V.M. Myasishchev, but since in 1942 he was still "sitting", the plane received the name of the chief engineer of the plant where it was produced - B.P. Lisunova.
        And it should have been called "2M" ...
  6. +12
    16 September 2019 19: 07
    After the war, the Yu-52 was operated by the Civil Air Fleet for some time. My grandfather flew it commander in 1946.
  7. +4
    16 September 2019 19: 14
    Goering's "green devils" - crazy parachutists with knives and pistols who captured the island of Crete owe their success to this plane. And in general, the speed of a transport aircraft is 2 times lower than that of fighters, this is the norm in our time, so it was not somehow especially outdated for World War II.
    1. Alf
      0
      16 September 2019 21: 38
      Quote: geologist
      Goering's "green devils" - crazy parachutists with knives and pistols who captured the island of Crete owe their success to this plane.

  8. +11
    16 September 2019 19: 23
    Many thanks to the author for an interesting and informative article .. Yes, Yu-52 was a workhorse throughout the Second World War. The author showed the importance of this aircraft for the salvation of the surrounded Nazis near Demyansk. But Yu-52 very well rescued not only them, but also the surrounded troops near Stalingrad. Only after our air regiments beat the majority of transporters there, the warlike fervor of the surrounded Nazis began to gradually dry up. By the way, despite the slow speed, shooting down the Yu-52 was not an easy task, even for experienced fighters. Too tenacious was this transporter.
    General conclusion: The Second World War became a high point for Yu-52, and in it he played an important role.
    1. 0
      19 September 2019 08: 54
      Quote: Vadim T.
      the importance of this aircraft for the salvation of the surrounded Nazis near Demyansk. But Yu-52 very well rescued not only them, but also the surrounded troops near Stalingrad. Only after our air regiments beat the majority of transporters there, the warlike fervor of the surrounded Nazis began to gradually dry up.

      Near Demyansk, not less, but maybe a greater role, the glider played. They then could carry many types of aircraft.
      Yes, and under Stalingrad, the machines for Goering's promised cargo flow were initially lacking, as far as I remember.
  9. +11
    16 September 2019 19: 27

    Pilot cabin Ju 52 / 3m, 1936.
    1. +11
      16 September 2019 19: 41

      Junkers JU 52/3 mg 4 e transport aircraft, built in 1939 - inside view.
      1. +1
        17 September 2019 10: 10
        Interesting troughs in the ass. It seems that the German landing parachute on the back, and not like the pilots in the ass.
        1. +3
          17 September 2019 11: 44
          Take a closer look at the mannequin. He has a back seat. This is obviously a wireframe.
          There were other options, such as this.
          1. +1
            17 September 2019 12: 14
            Thought over! One word - the Germans. The bottom shot is already modern.
          2. 0
            17 September 2019 21: 19
            It turns out that each paratrooper had an individual seat? Somehow not rational
            1. 0
              19 September 2019 09: 53
              Quote: Astra wild
              It turns out that each paratrooper had an individual seat? Somehow not rational

              On the contrary, this is precisely what is rational. For operation, of course, not for production. it’s not always necessary to transfer the maximum possible number of soldiers or the largest load. Very often the cargo is combined: a gun with a calculation, a tank / car / bulldozer / etc with a crew, and so on.
              Here is an example of loading Li-2.

              Or a full gunners compartment or a gun with a calculation. Part of the seats was raised to make room for the gun, and the gunners were sitting on the unraised. Otherwise, it would have been on the floor.
              But I console - there were also seats with a large number of seats. From two to the stop:

              State Glider CG-4 ...


              ... and the British "Horse".


      2. 0
        17 September 2019 21: 11
        Seats in the form of boxes, apparently, so that in flight not to fidget on the bench?
        1. +1
          17 September 2019 21: 42
          I wrote to Ural-4320 - look at the mannequin. This design of seats was then widespread, allowing you to quickly transform the cargo compartment for transporting people with acceptable comfort.

          This is the interior of the S-47 - a military version of the American DC-3. As you can see, the design is almost identical.
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    2. +3
      16 September 2019 21: 32
      Quote: Undecim
      Pilot cabin Ju 52 / 3m, 1936.

      Vintage design. I hope the steering wheel is covered with leather? :)
      1. +2
        16 September 2019 22: 10
        laughing ... automatic transmission shift knob, too! Inserts made of aluminum and natural wood! laughing
        By the way, a ready-made idea for the designer))
  10. 0
    16 September 2019 20: 05
    by the reporting date March 1 1943 the bomber squadron had three Do.11c years, but the Junkers Ju.52 was 24.
    Sorry for the typo. It would be true, the Germans would have been much easier to defeat.
  11. +1
    16 September 2019 20: 07
    Oh, the USSR did not pull out the serial production of the most reliable ANT-14. Six tons of carrying capacity, a wing from TB-3. For the nascent airborne forces, that’s the most. Yes, it would fit in the national economy.
    1. +4
      16 September 2019 21: 55
      excuse me, but how did you determine that it is "most reliable" if it was not mass-produced?
      it is unlikely that such a conclusion can reasonably be made on a single copy
  12. +1
    16 September 2019 20: 17
    Everything is logical. Then the vehicles were underdeveloped. There was nothing special to transport goods. Therefore, such a modest, but massive and inexpensive car was very in demand.
  13. +5
    16 September 2019 20: 17
    I did not understand the title - moreover, the design oddity, typical of Junkers of the 20s, the continuation of the construction worked out by Junkers from the First World War, design began in the 29th. the first flight at the end of the 30th, if you recall that at this time biplanes were actively being built, for example, France LeO-213 34th, British TC.33 32nd. We have a whole family of corrugated monoplanes ANTey and Kalinin's car. In the early 30s a couple of years is a whole era.
  14. +2
    16 September 2019 20: 23
    Thanks to the work of the French, the Ju.52 / 1943m assembly in 900 increased to XNUMX aircraft

    ... to the question of the victorious countries in 1945 ...
    1. -1
      17 September 2019 03: 55
      Factories under occupation. Most of the army was evacuated to the Island, from where, together with the British, they did sabotage sorties, as far as they could.
      1. 0
        18 September 2019 16: 10
        Quote: 3danimal
        Most of the army was evacuated to the island.

        Are you talking about de Gaulle or something? “Then you flatter him greatly!”
        Most of the French army capitulated to France. The fleet was in Toulon.
        Large military units were in the colonies and subordinate to Vichy, that is, they were allies of the Germans.
        De Gaulle "and his team" had to work hard to pull the French army over to their side ...
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          18 September 2019 18: 16
          In the ranks of the Nazis, about 100000 of Soviet citizens fought. Anything can happen. If the Nazis (impossible option) pursued a reasonable, responsible policy in the occupied territories, there would be more people.
          And DeGoll’s efforts are quite worthy. In that position.
          1. 0
            18 September 2019 22: 19
            Quote: 3danimal
            In the ranks of the Nazis, about 100000 of Soviet citizens fought. Anything can happen. If the Nazis (impossible option) pursued a reasonable, responsible policy in the occupied territories, there would be more people.
            And DeGoll’s efforts are quite worthy. In that position.

            And where does it?
            I corrected you: the Englishmen didn’t take out the French for the English Channel in droves - they themselves had to somehow take a sack (and you:
            Most of the army was evacuated to the island.
            ).
            Yes, hell, sir-two: no one was especially evacuated ...
          2. 0
            19 September 2019 12: 04
            Quote: 3danimal
            In the ranks of the Nazis, about 100000 of Soviet citizens fought. Anything can happen. If the Nazis (impossible option) pursued a reasonable, responsible policy in the occupied territories, there would be more people.

            You are wrong, much more, from memory - in one ROA there were about 55 thousand, this is not counting the Cossacks, "HiVi", of which there were up to 300 thousand (but of which the Germans did not form separate large units, usually a company), etc. ...

            In total, one way or another, to one degree or another, voluntary participation in the war (not necessarily direct clashes) on the side of the Third Reich was accepted - according to various estimates, from 1,5 to 2 million foreigners - this is far from only from the countries of the former USSR (and this is NOT counting foreign workers exported to Germany, many of whom (even from the "eastern territories" also went there VOLUNTARY, worked FOR WAGE and WITHOUT PROTECTION).

            On the side of the Nazis, even small units from the British, Indians, and American Indians managed to check in ...
  15. +1
    16 September 2019 20: 25
    Here's a Boeing 30 of the Boeing Model 226 and in 1933 a Boeing 247


    T-32 Condor II 33rd
  16. +3
    16 September 2019 22: 04
    Another example of technology, at first glance, with not outstanding performance characteristics, but it turned out to be very useful, more than a wunderwaffe
    Cost / manufacturability / unpretentiousness
  17. +4
    16 September 2019 22: 41
    I could not see everything, what a huge gap - the flap and aileron really hang below the wing chord. The "double wing" scheme invented by Hugo Junkers himself was used. A rare scheme. Here you can see well.
    .
    1. 0
      17 September 2019 10: 12
      And also in the photo there are three-blade screws, which, I confess, I see for the first time. Maybe post-war already? Although the Lufthansa livery seems to be pre-war.
      PS: here is blind-eyed, in the article a photo of the same aircraft in the air, judging by the livery and screws.
    2. +1
      17 September 2019 20: 55
      These are hanging flaps and ailerons that form the rear profile of a Junkers-type double wing. They were common at the turn of the 20-30s, used by Kalinin in tailless junkers, Junkers in the Yu-87, but, because of the high drag, they were not used on high-speed aircraft.
      1. 0
        18 September 2019 16: 24
        Today, these structures are called "hanging flapperons": the inner sections of these surfaces acted like ailerons in flight, and like flaps during takeoff and landing.
        1. 0
          19 September 2019 00: 37
          Today such designs are called "hanging flapperons":


          I don't know how it is now, but in our time "flaperon" and "hovering aileron" meant the same thing. The ailerons in the takeoff and landing configuration deviated downward, continuing to differentially deviate up and down. And the flaps remained flaps. feel It is used on DHC-6 or An-14, like it was on Storch. And they were part of the profile, and were not below and separately from it, as on the Yu-52.
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  18. +2
    17 September 2019 02: 29
    Quote: Saxahorse
    Vintage design. I hope the steering wheel is covered with leather? :)

    Quote: Siberian barber
    laughing ... automatic transmission shift knob, too! Inserts made of aluminum and natural wood! laughing
    By the way, a ready-made idea for the designer))

    And where did you see the steering wheel and automatic transmission lever? Personally, I saw the helm and ORE.
  19. +1
    17 September 2019 14: 37
    Quote: 210ox
    Interesting plane. However, the popularity of An2 is far from him. Although the maize was created after the war.

    ju-52 must be compared with tb-3. These are airplanes of the same time and technology level.
    although it would be more logical to compare with one class, but when the Yu-52 was developing, at that time in the USSR there was a shack with transport workers of this size.
    the first comparable device is not-2, a copy of the American DS-3, but rather, in the 36th year, the steel-7 project from Bartini, which created a multi-purpose aircraft, similar to do-17 or he-111. Then it was released in a military version under the brand name EP-2. These are probably the most comparable cars.
    here are the parameters for 37 years - 2x760ls engines, mass 11t, range 5000 km, speed 450, load 1000-3000.
    Li-2 39g, weight 10.7, power 2x1000, speed 320 (cruising 290), range 2500
    ju-52: 32g., weight 11t, power 3x830, speed 285 (250), range 1300. load 1500.

    here, roughly comparable machines of very close take-off weight
    if about steel-7 they didn’t lie at the exhibition, then we got a very good plane.
    1. +1
      17 September 2019 22: 44
      if about steel-7 did not lie at the exhibition


      He gave 450 km per hour at once (with partial load). But at full range for the record had to "cheat". Although the merits of Bartini (who was already "sitting") this does not diminish in the least.
      "On August 28, 1939, a passenger plane without cargo went on a record non-stop flight Moscow - M. Brusyanskoe (area of ​​Sverdlovsk, now Yekaterinburg) - Sevastopol - Moscow." Steel-7 "(its takeoff weight was 11820 kilograms) took off from the concrete track of Shchelkovo airfield, using a launching hill for acceleration, similar to how the crews of V.P. Chkalov, M.M. Gromov and S.A. Levanevsky did it during flights over the North Pole.

      The flight took place in difficult conditions, strong vertical gusts of air, thunderstorm fronts and headwinds literally ate up kilometers of speed. In 12,5 hours, a distance of 5068 kilometers was covered with an average speed of 404,936 kilometers per hour. This flight broke the international speed record set on July 8, 1938 on the Amio-370 aircraft.
      http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cw1/stal7.html
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        20 September 2019 15: 46
        oh I didn’t know about such a chip about take-off
        I only knew that the planes had completely abnormal distortions in the load.
  20. +1
    18 September 2019 10: 29
    About minesweepers surprised, thanks.
  21. +1
    18 September 2019 15: 26
    And everything turned out to be very simple. Converting the transport Ju.52 / 3m-g3e into a bomber was a snap.

    The hatch just cut through the fuselage and an open turret with one MG-15 machine gun was installed in it.

    Well, it's easy to say, but to do ...
    The cut in the power (corrugated) skin weakened the structure - it had to be strengthened somehow. For example, edging the cutout with reinforced frames ... That is, to disassemble the aircraft. It's the same with the "basket", and with the bomb bays ...
    It is obvious that Junkers foresaw such a course of events in advance, otherwise "Stakhanov's pace" would not have happened!
    1. +1
      18 September 2019 22: 03
      The hatch was foreseen immediately during the design and was taken into account in the power set, so nothing had to be strengthened.
      1. +1
        18 September 2019 22: 22
        The Germans write that everything was foreseen there in advance (which, in fact, is not news).
        But then why should one be delighted that Junkers had "Stakhanov's pace" - he had to honestly write that everything was prepared in advance, to the detriment of the effectiveness of the civil version.
        1. +2
          18 September 2019 22: 49
          In order to write about something, you need to know about it.
  22. 0
    18 September 2019 16: 28
    The most interesting thing is that the Germans could not make him a worthy replacement!
    1. 0
      19 September 2019 11: 18
      Quote: PilotS37
      The most interesting thing is that the Germans could not make him a worthy replacement!

      They did (Yu-252 and Yu-352), but in the conditions of total war they could not afford to switch to a real serial production.
  23. 0
    19 September 2019 11: 58
    Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
    The latest case of the massive successful use of Ju.52 / 3m was the offensive operation in the Ardennes, "Watch on the Rhine." The weather was not the most favorable, but nevertheless the Junkers were able to throw airborne assaults in the rear of the American troops.
    The article as a whole is normal, but the author once again made an inaccuracy — the last operations where Ju-52 were used successfully in World War II were supplying the Budapest German group and deliveries to the Courland boiler. And far from the Ardennes. Yes, yes, on the Eastern Front even such slow-moving people and even in the 1945 year did a lot more, unfortunately!
  24. 0
    20 September 2019 15: 48
    Quote: PilotS37
    The cutout in the power (corrugated) skin weakened the structure

    Germans had hellish requirements for safety and reliability
    for example, in our USSR, their guns were actively bored.
    I am sure that Yu-52 also had a large margin of safety, which simplified the insertion / cutting of elements.
    1. 0
      23 September 2019 13: 02
      for example, in our USSR, their guns were actively bored.
      -What, when and in what quantity?
      1. 0
        23 September 2019 13: 09
        85mm anti-aircraft gun from 75mm German made
        45-ka made from a German 37mm gun.
        37mm anti-aircraft machine we redid in 40mm
        1. 0
          23 September 2019 13: 20
          Can you do the docks? That they just took a German trunk and "bored" it?
          Here on Wiki (although this is not a super source, but ..):
          85mm
          Due to the extremely tight deadlines allocated for the development of the new system, the lead designer G.D. Dorokhin decided to lay an 85-mm barrel on the platform of the 76-mm anti-aircraft gun of the 1938 model, using the shutter and semi-automatic of this gun.
          your trunk.
          45mm
          At the end of the 1931 year, the designers of Plant No. 8 installed a new 37 mm caliber barrel in the casing of the 1930-mm anti-tank gun of the 45 model of the year, built on the documentation purchased from the German company Rheinmetall and slightly strengthened the carriage.
          - your trunk
          37mm 61-K-
          Designed based on the Swedish 40-mm gun Bofors [1].
          - In general, the opposite is true.
          Where did you get these tales about boring? The Germans bore the chamber of the Soviet F-22, turning it into a Pak 36, this is well known.
          1. 0
            23 September 2019 14: 03
            don’t really trust the wiki.
            1-2 examples both guns are built on the basis of German documentation and already READY calculations
            The 3 example is different - I don’t remember the marking, but it was the Germans, not the Swedes, who were remade.
            1. 0
              23 September 2019 14: 08
              Where are the specific docks by "active boring"?
              1-2 examples both guns are built on the basis of German documentation and already READY calculations
              - is it = boring of trunks? Do not make me laugh!
              The 3 example is different - I don’t remember the marking, but it was the Germans, not the Swedes, who were remade.
              Yes nuuu ?! was the caliber 40mm in the USSR? The news, however!
              In this case, I would rather believe Vicki than you. Moreover, apart from words, there is not a single document from you. wink
              1. 0
                23 September 2019 14: 12
                Quote: Dooplet11
                except words, from you not a single document.

                and your link to the wiki is a document ???
                as for guns, here on the site about 45 recently recently laid out a detailed article
                can familiarize yourself.
                1. 0
                  23 September 2019 14: 23
                  and your link to the wiki is a document ???
                  Compared to your application document. On the wiki at the end of the article links to the source. wink
                  then here on the site about 45-ku recently posted a detailed article
                  can familiarize yourself.
                  -If you are talking about this article by Skomorokhov, then you got acquainted: https://topwar.ru/161237-istoricheskij-detektiv-kalibr-45-mm.html, - in his article there is no statement that they bore German barrels from 37 to 45mm. On the contrary, the version is strenuously refuted (just a DISPUTED version!) But, even if we accept Shirokorad's version, “making on the basis” does not mean simply “squandering”.
                  As far as I understand, there will be no dock on "active boring"? Not surprised. hi
    2. 0
      23 September 2019 15: 19
      I am sure that Yu-52 also had a large margin of safety, which simplified the insertion / cutting of elements.

      Safety margin is limited by standards.
      And all the "tie-ins" in the Ju-52 were provided in advance:

      The photo is published for the first time.
  25. 0
    23 September 2019 16: 04
    Quote: Dooplet11
    Yes nuuu ?! was the 40mm caliber in the USSR?

    you probably confuse adopted systems and prototypes.
    we are talking about the work of 1926-32 on the initial refinement of 40mm Vickers and 37mm Maxim guns, and their German clones, as well as an experimental 40mm project with a barrel length of 57,5 kb. and proper nutrition at the INZ-2 and Bolshevik factories
    all of these projects were safely abandoned.
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  26. 0
    23 September 2019 16: 46
    Quote: Dooplet11
    As far as I understand, there will be no dock on "active boring"? Not surprised.

    yes you are really insolent
    You actually require work drawings from the factory to provide.
    But at that time I not only didn’t work there, but I was born much later.
    1. 0
      23 September 2019 19: 20
      I ask you to confirm your words about "active boring"some docks. You don't have them? And you replace them with rudeness (" really insolent ")? Sand is not an important substitute for oats (s).
      In the absence of proofs, your thesis about active boring is a fantasy.
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