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Stories about weapons. A personal look at ASVK

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Good talk about any weaponswhen he personally touched his hands. Even better - when I figured it out on myself and myself in it. We were given such an opportunity, for which there is great appreciation to the press service of the ZVO, who organized the whole process and to the instructors who spent time on explanations and demonstrations.


To begin with, what is this rifle.



This is a large-caliber rifle with a total length of 1420 mm and a weight of 10,5 kg, with a longitudinally sliding shutter in the “bulpap” layout, with a barrel length of 1 000 mm, adopted for service in the 2016 year.

The caliber of the rifle is 12,7 mm, and the size of the cartridge is 12,7X108 mm, for shooting there are three main types of cartridges 7Н34 sniper, B3 (armor-piercing incendiary bullet) and BZT (armor-piercing incendiary tracer bullet).

Personal shooting experience.



The first thing that catches your eye is the size. The rifle seems large and heavy. Although the famous "Barrett" is still bigger and heavier.

Speaking of weight. In the upgraded version of the rifle, longitudinal grooves of the barrel were made and the butt was reworked, which allowed to lose as much as 2 kg of weight from the rifle, compared to the older brother (ASVK Kord weighs 12,5 kg).

A lot or a little - two kilograms? Convert to cartridges, grenades or water when taking into account the daily "single voyage" of kilometers on the 50, and everything will become clear to you right away as a white day.

When you look at five steel cucumbers that are driven into a box-shaped store, you realize that the whole complex is designed for effective shots, not actual ones. This is not without reason, excellent pupils of sniper training are allowed for combat use.



In addition, such a caliber allows not so much to engage in the extermination of enemy manpower, as the complete destruction of communications equipment and equipped firing positions. We will not particularly discuss armored vehicles, although cases of penetration of the BTR-80 in the framework of the tests are recorded. There is enough bullet energy.

Speaking of bestowal. From the outside it seems that it is colossal and after several shots the rifle necessarily injures the shooter. However, no. The specific design of the muzzle brake almost compensates for the recoil making it softer, although its peculiarity is a dust-mud trail that flies in the face of the arrow. So shooting from any coating except concrete and grass adds special effects.



Here the equipment of the “Warrior” with glasses and a balaclava is not a show off, but a real necessity. The amount of dust, dirt, grass, branches, stunned insects that the rifle tries to throw at you into all the natural holes on your head when shooting is amazing. And the first thing those who made the first shot began to do was not to admire, but to spit.

But the return is strange. After shooting from the SVD for comparison, let's say this: SVD hits in the shoulder, and SVK stupidly pushes it like that. It is very difficult to describe this process in words, but for ICS, the return seems to be stretched out in time. A very strange feeling, especially when you expect that this PTR will now blow you away.

When you look at the shot from the side (see above for special effects), then you involuntarily expect this. But no ...

A bit about injuries. There is one secret, which if you do not know, then you can slightly damage the left hand. The trick is this: on the butt plate of the butt, a special ebb was cast under the left hand.



So, if you tackle this ebb incorrectly, then during the shot the lock of the store’s lock beats in the hand (hello, bulpap).

The shutter release system - there are also funny moments. Sending a cartridge to the chamber is easy. But to extract ...

It seems to be done so that in the heat of battle someone who is not offended by the heroic heroic does not open the shutter “in a bad way”. Yes, in order to remove the spent sleeve, the silushka is needed anyway, this is not AK.

So, to open the shutter on the ICS, you need to get into a special groove, which is located somewhere in the centimeter of travel from the barrel. Once hitting it, the shutter can be opened.


In this image, the groove is clearly visible.


Original and not for those who lose their heads. This weapon is for cold-blooded people who are in no hurry anywhere and have time for everything ...

Definitely, from this rifle you can shoot "with hands." Weight and dimensions allow. As the experts said, “situations happen different.” So the mechanical sight - and on the 200-400 meters can be planted in something. Of course, we are not talking about sniper accuracy, but ...

And, by the way, much less will fly into the face. So there are opportunities.

We have already spoken on the subject of bicalibration, so let's repeat it a little. SVD is a person at a distance of up to 800 m. Well, something there is not much booked like KUNG. ICS - it is already possible to inspire both transport and armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles, and a helicopter can really choke on such a question.

So a normal long-range army rifle is a necessary thing. And it should not be a sort of "miracle miraculous, marvelous marvelous", but ordinary. As simple as SVD.

And then in the USA for "Barrett" already on the "iPhone" there is a ballistic computer ...



And we have? And here we have sights ...

The instructors say that everything is sad.

The 1P88-2 sight is a modified version of the first Russian pankratic (with variable magnification) Hyperon sight, which was put into service in the 1996 year. Yes, 1P88-2 is durable, airtight, not afraid of heat-cold ...

In general, it feels like the scope is behind the rifle. Especially at close range. It must be newer and more sophisticated. The rifle (and the one with the rifle) will appreciate.

A thermal imager is included. But there is no night sight. Also minus. More precisely, not a minus, but a reason to strain. Those who need it from true specialists have everything. Another question (they did not focus attention for security reasons) how this configuration occurs.

Impressions of the rifle are generally excellent: powerful, accurate. A professional tool, and he, a professional, can work at a distance of about 2000 m sighting. Retrofitting required.

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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 9 September 2019 18: 07 New
    -3
    I would have taken in any configuration! But they will notice! The case will be sewn! The murder of John F. Kennedy ....
    1. Fing
      Fing 9 September 2019 18: 23 New
      +3
      Shot from 2019 to 1963? Do you think fly?
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 9 September 2019 18: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Theodore
      I would have taken in any configuration! But they will notice! The case will be sewn! The murder of John F. Kennedy ....

      And if you take an ice ax in your hands? What then? Then, in general - horror! request
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 9 September 2019 19: 03 New
        +2
        all you need to know about the "cord" ...
        1. Military77
          Military77 9 September 2019 19: 21 New
          +7
          Sizge fall off)))
        2. Nikolay Balashov
          Nikolay Balashov 10 September 2019 23: 01 New
          +2
          Yeah, good boobs!
      2. boriz
        boriz 9 September 2019 19: 36 New
        +2
        With the ice ax "Hero of Russia" will give.
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 9 September 2019 22: 38 New
        +4
        Today, Trotsky cannot see anything, all around is one small thing. laughing
    3. Catfish
      Catfish 9 September 2019 22: 36 New
      +3
      What Kennedy is there ... They shot him from the Manlicher, at least that particular rifle was taken from Oswald.
      1. ty60
        ty60 10 September 2019 20: 33 New
        +1
        Sorry Lee Lee was
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 September 2019 20: 50 New
          0
          Sorry, Mussieu - yet Manliher. request
    4. yehat
      yehat 10 September 2019 12: 29 New
      +1
      and you take smoothbore with duck shot
  2. Amateur
    Amateur 9 September 2019 18: 33 New
    +3
    in comparison with the elder brother (ASVK "Kord" weighs 12,5 kg).

    modernized version

    not impressive
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 9 September 2019 22: 08 New
      +8
      Yes, the upgraded version is equipped with an unimpressive shooter laughing
  3. Military77
    Military77 9 September 2019 18: 42 New
    +5
    That would be such a stall on him

    20 m to 3,5 km
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 9 September 2019 18: 58 New
      +1
      Hmm, it would not be bad. But half a lyama ... March Genesis 6-60 × 56.
      1. Military77
        Military77 9 September 2019 19: 04 New
        +6
        350 kilo rubles, and on order, with the study ordered under a microscope.
        1. yehat
          yehat 10 September 2019 12: 31 New
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          it's for duck hunting laughing
        2. philosopher
          philosopher 13 September 2019 18: 26 New
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          Well, at least it’s not surprising, because the reason for the purchase may not be safe for ... well, you know. But when a person buys a CNC machine, and they also study it under a microscope and at any time they can confiscate this machine without explanation, it’s somehow strange.
  4. Rwmos
    Rwmos 9 September 2019 18: 48 New
    -1
    Some kind of idiocy. How without a regular nightlight ?!
    1. Military77
      Military77 9 September 2019 19: 13 New
      +1
      In general, I strongly doubt the advisability of night shooting from just such a weapon. Although there is a flame arrester, but a shot of 12,7 x 108 caliber and a barrel of 1 m ... It is possible that there is still a serious exhaust, therefore there is no night lamp, because the exhaust can be used to detect a bed and cover it with a mortar. And the multiplicity of nightlights is so-so: up to 1 km maximum for technology and 500 m human detection.
      1. Rwmos
        Rwmos 9 September 2019 20: 10 New
        +1
        Unmasking and noble is in the afternoon. And as a weapon of one shot - you can’t catch such a thing on a night light - it will light up with an open eye ... You will see, so what? Somewhere there was a flash ... Accuracy - half a bast on the map. Cover with mortars ...
        1. Military77
          Military77 10 September 2019 00: 06 New
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          About the day - wrote. The secret with NVD and LZU will do more than a sniper with a "night light"
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          2. eagle owl
            eagle owl 10 September 2019 01: 04 New
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            I doubt it very much. And in general - why are LCC secret? Did you mean a thermal imager? Only a mushroom sitting in place and a couple looking at the lists - things are different. They will cook in the pit when the people have already come, done, left. Rounding them
  5. Operator
    Operator 9 September 2019 19: 01 New
    -3
    You have to be able to do it this way - a long, long text and not a word about the accuracy of the product laughing

    Particularly amused by the range of fire from a large-caliber (sic!) Rifle - 800 meters (well, exactly like the .338 caliber).
    1. eagle owl
      eagle owl 10 September 2019 01: 05 New
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      And me - the author’s impressions of the return))) This was a long-standing topic, and it was finalized.
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    3. SARANCHA1976
      SARANCHA1976 17 September 2019 09: 55 New
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      The 338 LM has a direct kilometer shot. It is fashionable to work on it FROM 800 meters
  6. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 9 September 2019 19: 09 New
    -6
    And then in the USA for "Barrett" already on the "iPhone" there is a ballistic computer ...
    And we have? And here we have sights ...
    our tasks are different ... they have show-offs, we have a victory.
  7. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 19: 11 New
    +3
    Dust-mud swirls after a shot can seriously unmask the location of the shooter, especially if they are already waiting for the shot. Well, the sad consequence is the covering of the area with mortars and other unpleasant things. I have no doubt that snipers have their own secrets and notions, but it would not hurt the designers to think about the problem.
    1. Military77
      Military77 9 September 2019 19: 30 New
      +3
      It all depends on the distance of the shot and the sniper training. For 1-1,5 km, laying a sniper is problematic, since the entire laying of a sniper is covered by a camouflage net suitable for the landscape and no dust or dirt can be seen even from 300 meters
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 9 September 2019 19: 44 New
        0
        I will not argue, but I know for sure how they try to detect a sniper if he is "wound up" in the area. They are looking for it all who have at this time and optics and mortars on the line. Masseti and the rest is certainly correct, but the circumstances are different and, you see, any shooter would prefer not to have dust clouds after the shot.
        1. Military77
          Military77 9 September 2019 19: 50 New
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          The "truckers" have other tasks: targets on the CP, lightly armored BT on the march, etc. They are usually placed outside the front line and in 95% work on “special orders” and objects such as front-line radars and their calculations, etc. Specific goals most often.
    2. Alf
      Alf 9 September 2019 22: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Dust and mud swirls

      And before you lie down, experienced, i.e., survivors, snipers water themselves in front of them.
      1. Military77
        Military77 10 September 2019 00: 13 New
        0
        Here zhezh eat-makakreshy. They have their own goals and they do not work as part of a squad / platoon / company
      2. Ingenegr
        Ingenegr 14 September 2019 23: 28 New
        0
        The “CORD” exhaust does not hide water when fired from the ground. Other masking methods are used.
    3. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 10 September 2019 01: 26 New
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      The muzzle brake unmasks the position, Shot, did not change position - died.
    4. YOUR
      YOUR 10 September 2019 04: 28 New
      +1
      The rifle is specific, for many sniper tasks excess power. In general, there is no perfect weapon. Somewhere you can get by with a little thing, the main circle of army tasks is solved by the SVD. Rifles like ASVK are not in vain called antimaterial. From a distance you can flip around on a rocket launcher, on a locator, on some cars with equipment. Shooting on manpower well, in some cases, yes, for example, with anti-sniper fighting. But still a sniper shot at 1.5 - 2 km with a hit of 10 cm circle is very, very problematic
    5. philosopher
      philosopher 13 September 2019 18: 31 New
      0
      If the exit to the position was at night, then the area around the shooter and in front of the barrel is whenever possible watered. Do not ask where the sniper in the field will take several buckets of water, I read this in the memoirs of one who fought, but he did not specify. As an option, why not?
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  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 September 2019 19: 41 New
    0
    Powerful, very light in its class. Aim? Well, buy the right amount of sights. Do a new development for a thousand pieces? Will not pay off ... Accuracy? And who, by the way, will enlighten about accuracy?
    1. Military77
      Military77 9 September 2019 20: 04 New
      +2
      The accuracy depends (not taking into account the skills of the shooter):
      1. Steel barrel quality
      2. Worn trunk
      3. Ammunition quality
      So from the SVD it is possible to light up the lobeshnik for 1 km and not get into the BRMD from 200 meters
      1. Corn
        Corn 9 September 2019 21: 36 New
        +2
        The accuracy depends (not taking into account the skills of the shooter):
        1. Steel barrel quality
        2. Worn trunk
        3. Ammunition quality

        4. The technology of the barrel
        5. The correct calculation of the length and thickness of the walls of the barrel (for example, earlier for shooting the trunks were made longer and thinner, but now shorter and thicker, and the accuracy has increased)
        5. Type of recharging mechanism
        6. Type of shutter, and the number of stops in particular.
        7. Weather conditions (temperature, atmospheric pressure, humidity)
        So from SVD it is possible to light up 1 km to the lobeshnik
        In approximately the same way, it is possible to get into the eye from the AKM at 3000 meters of squirrel, moreover, the defeat of a stray bullet in the combat zone is not so rare.
        1. Military77
          Military77 9 September 2019 23: 41 New
          -1
          I agree, but the "trucker" knows his unit better than his wife. In 99% of cases, they prepare their ammunition themselves, namely, expand the cartridge, add / pour out gunpowder, and what they do with a bullet, it looks like a shamanic rite. A sniper is a diagnosis, not a VUS
      2. tracer
        tracer 10 September 2019 01: 48 New
        -3
        From SVD per kilometer to lobeshnik?
        "Prize to the studio" !!! Do you even have an idea of ​​a rifle in Caliber 7.62 × 54R in terms of its abilities? Much I will disappoint you ... very much. It’s impossible to get from such a distance for sure. SVD is not designed for any of its characteristics.
        1. Timeout
          Timeout 10 September 2019 04: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: tracer
          From SVD per kilometer to lobeshnik?

          "Sniper" you ours, of course will not get if costs PSO. But with 1P21 get. Platoon snipers have never been trained, and are not taught to shoot 1000 meters in the forehead, the minimum target is No. 25. At 700 meters, it is simply obliged to hit targets 5-5a with every second shot and this is an ordinary LPS.
          Quote: tracer
          It’s impossible to get from such a distance for sure.

          As practice says, with PSO target number 6 is hit at a distance of 1000m., About two shots out of ten, with 1P21 targets 5-5a every fourth shot.
          Quote: tracer
          SVD is not designed for any of its characteristics.

          NOT calculated, but it shoots and it is a fact. And if you were a real sniper, you would know about it.
          1. zloi_dekabr
            zloi_dekabr 10 September 2019 20: 57 New
            +1
            You yourself at what distance did not shoot at the firing range? Do not smack nonsense, it hurts! :)) 600 meters for the SVDhi ceiling, if not at the training ground. I heard from friends, and those from my friends about arrivals from SVD as much as 800+, but at that, the folklore is folk.)))
            1. Timeout
              Timeout 11 September 2019 01: 56 New
              +3
              Quote: zloi_dekabr
              You yourself at what distance did not shoot at the firing range? Do not smack nonsense, it hurts! :)) 600 meters for the SVDhi ceiling, if not at the training ground.

              Dear, apparently by the statement you just passed by there.

              Here's a diagram of a regular shooting range for cool sniper training:

              And then part of the firing plan:
              [Center]

              Quote: zloi_dekabr
              I heard from friends, and those from my friends about arrivals from SVD as much as 800+, but at that, the folklore is folk.)))

              Arrivals in target number 25 at a distance of 900-1200 meters should be.

              It turns out friends also passed by ...
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            1. Timeout
              Timeout 11 September 2019 02: 21 New
              +3
              Quote: tracer
              Help calculate the dispersion of standard cartridges per kilometer?

              Why did everyone do it to you:
              Quote: tracer
              Is it a 25 meter rifle?

              Oh how, you are clearly pierced here ... If you already obviously do not know what the target numbers mean. No. 25 is a "hovering helicopter."
              Comrade Bread Cutter, they opened you!
              Quote: tracer
              GMS level arrow

              Why Semenyuk does not know you, are you our athlete? All champions still live in Syktyvkar.
              At the expense of getting into the competition "Tiger" in the shooting of semi-automatic rifles.
        2. ty60
          ty60 10 September 2019 20: 40 New
          0
          kilometer, I didn’t see. And as on a 700m a bottle of champagne was opened with a shot from a civil Tiger without touching the glass, the witness himself
    2. CTABEP
      CTABEP 10 September 2019 07: 49 New
      +1
      The problem is that the arrows themselves will most likely buy it, and for their money. And all this costs a lot. I remembered the demotivator on the topic "poured all the money from a business trip to the crew." Alas :(
  10. Bormanxnumx
    Bormanxnumx 9 September 2019 20: 43 New
    +1
    The rifle seems large and heavy. Although the famous "Barrett" is still bigger and heavier.

    Barrett M90 with manual reloading "empty" weighs 9.5 kg, and the comparison with the self-loading M82 is a little "unsportsmanlike" wassat
  11. dgonni
    dgonni 9 September 2019 21: 41 New
    +2
    The muzzle brake spoils everything! With such a sniper effect and from a distance of one and a half km, they will see any optics.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 9 September 2019 22: 46 New
      +1
      And he needs only one shot, and the enemy in the optics, if he sees anything, only his heels. Above, a colleague Dmitry has already explained the specifics of the "truckers".
  12. Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 9 September 2019 23: 28 New
    -2
    The average dispersion diameter declared by the manufacturer is about 160 mm at a range of 300 m (without the use of special ammunition). Warranty resource, rds - 3000.

    Not to say that it directly shocks accuracy. But you can get into the truck.
    1. Timeout
      Timeout 10 September 2019 04: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: Saxahorse
      Not to say that it directly shocks accuracy. But you can get into the truck.

      So such rifles are called "sniper antimaterial", that is, designed to combat all kinds of equipment and, last but not least, enemy manpower.
  13. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 9 September 2019 23: 41 New
    +1
    Damn, I would like to try. It’s as horrible as you want ... 2000 meters ... I think that I would have gotten into the 5 poster on 5 (meters naturally), and I’m not so sure. This is what kind of optics you need, which barrel ... what cartridges ...
    1. Military77
      Military77 9 September 2019 23: 52 New
      0
      And you breathe calmly, as in a forest, choosing a free run, and then BREED ... There is a hit ... I also want to recourse
  14. Military77
    Military77 9 September 2019 23: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Corn
    approximately the same way you can get into the eye from AKM for 3000 meters of protein

    With dope, you can break the tail (oy) through your head, we are in the article about the pros)))
  15. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 10 September 2019 00: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Military77
    And you breathe calmly, as in a forest, choosing a free run, and then BREED ... There is a hit ... I also want to recourse

    If everything was so simple ... :)))
    1. tracer
      tracer 10 September 2019 04: 11 New
      -3
      I would add "and breathe calmly like a maniac in a forest park" ...))))
  16. E.S.
    E.S. 10 September 2019 00: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: Saxahorse
    The average dispersion diameter declared by the manufacturer is about 160 mm at a range of 300 m (without the use of special ammunition). Warranty resource, rds - 3000.

    Not to say that it directly shocks accuracy. But you can get into the truck.

    From Barrett, a gross machine-gun cartridge will not be much better either. It is written "without special ammunition."
    Or did you think that "special ammunition" is YaBCH? :-)
    1. tracer
      tracer 10 September 2019 01: 52 New
      -1
      One hundred percent, machine-gun cartridges taken as a basis .50 BMG which can be used in the "BARRET" do not give any sniper accuracy. Will have to use and shoot only under a good sniper cartridge. Similarly, with the machine guns SVD is not very
      Better “sniper” nothing for her.
      1. Timeout
        Timeout 10 September 2019 04: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: tracer
        Will have to use and shoot only under a good sniper cartridge.

        Only they do this, because the tasks for a sniper with such a rifle are not for fighting the enemy’s manpower. Even in the assortment of used cartridges there is no "sniper".

        Quote: tracer
        Similarly, with the machine guns SVD is not very
        Better “sniper” nothing for her.

        And have you seen a lot of 7H1 in the army? As taught and so shoot LPS.
        1. tracer
          tracer 10 September 2019 05: 22 New
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          Go to Barrett's website. There are plenty of rounds. They recommend their cartridges and they can give the best accuracy in accuracy, SO I CALLED SNIPERS. 416 and .50 They recommend it for use. Maybe they buy it into the army who knows. And we studied and passed sniper cartridges and even got a couple of times. They could not be found earlier in the day with fire. Now I don’t know, maybe there is something better. Maybe the old-fashioned parties are selected and weighed on the scales from those that the bullet is more or less evenly planted and the nose does not hit.
          1. Timeout
            Timeout 10 September 2019 06: 01 New
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            Quote: tracer
            Go to Barrett's website.

            What does the manufacturer’s website have to do with it? Screen from the Pentagon "Operator manual", the assortment is clearly described. Even the army does not agree to pay 7 bucks for a cartridge to shoot from a rifle with dubious accuracy.
            1. tracer
              tracer 10 September 2019 06: 05 New
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              About that and that is too expensive. But small batches are probably bought because it is adopted. And the demand for its characteristics is needed. And they beat him with everything that moves. But let anti-materiality not bother.
              1. Timeout
                Timeout 10 September 2019 06: 29 New
                +3
                Quote: tracer
                And they beat him with everything that moves. But let anti-materiality not bother.

                Who is pounding, one sniper on a motorized rifle company or two on a company of marines? And what will they pound there, even with targeted ammunition?
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 10 September 2019 10: 03 New
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            Quote: tracer
            Therefore, I called it sniping. 416 and .50

            ogums, $ 8,90 and $ 7,20 apiece ...
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 10 September 2019 10: 06 New
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          Quote: Timeout
          And have you seen a lot of 7H1 in the army?

          I personally not only saw, but also held zinc in their hands ... tongue
          1. tracer
            tracer 10 September 2019 20: 04 New
            -1
            Right now, this one harmful radish will prove to you that this wasn’t (sniper cartridges), there were not those cartridges (as an option), and even in the army you served it.
          2. Timeout
            Timeout 11 September 2019 03: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: PSih2097
            I personally not only saw, but also held zinc in their hands

            Seen 87-90 years?
  17. E.S.
    E.S. 10 September 2019 01: 56 New
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    Quote: tracer
    One hundred percent, machine-gun cartridges taken as a basis .50 BMG which can be used in the "BARRET" do not give any sniper accuracy. Will have to use and shoot only under a good sniper cartridge.

    That's it! Therefore, the "accuracy of 15 cm by 20 meters without special ammunition" for the rifle under discussion is the same as the price of firewood in Syktyvkar in June 1913.
    1. tracer
      tracer 10 September 2019 04: 10 New
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      Do you know the name of the city in the north?
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  19. bionik
    bionik 10 September 2019 04: 42 New
    +3
    A very strange feeling, especially when you expect that this PTR will now blow you away.
  20. E.S.
    E.S. 10 September 2019 11: 07 New
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    Quote: tracer
    Do you know the name of the city in the north?

    Yes. Now you can use it
  21. yehat
    yehat 10 September 2019 12: 32 New
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    Quote: RWMos
    Unmasking and noble is in the afternoon.

    why did you make a muzzle brake, if so unmasks?
    I saw the AR-15 variant under a 15mm bullet, also with a muzzle brake, so it didn’t dust and had no critical impact.
    1. sh3roman
      sh3roman 28 September 2019 19: 59 New
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      So at them, it’s done by hands, and we have our own way, meaningless and merciless
  22. yehat
    yehat 10 September 2019 12: 36 New
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    Quote: E.S.
    That's it! Therefore, the "accuracy of 15 cm by 20 meters without special ammunition" for the rifle under discussion is the same as the price of firewood in Syktyvkar in June 1913.

    .50 has very decent ballistics. ammunition is not sniper, but still very accurate
    I agree that it’s not for very long distances, but up to 1-1.5 km they work for approx.
    as for the accuracy of 15 cm, as you wrote, it is better to check with the gunners lol
  23. dokusib
    dokusib 12 September 2019 10: 13 New
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    That Barrett is not so dusty. Apart from the muzzle brake, maybe one could think of other mechanisms for suppressing recoil.
  24. Ingenegr
    Ingenegr 14 September 2019 23: 54 New
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    Quote: YOUR
    But still a sniper shot at 1.5 - 2 km with a hit of 10 cm circle is very, very problematic

    Such a shot is not problematic - it is absolutely and unconditionally random. None of the elements of the sniper complex is not even able to provide close accuracy. When shooting at a distance of over 1000 m, especially in non-ideal conditions, the work of the observer becomes especially important - in fact, the first number of the sniper group. Frankly speaking, it is he who provides the offset shot. The shooter himself is just an operator whose main task is to accurately follow the instructions of the observer without any initiative. As for distances in the range of 1500-2000 m, ignoring or inaccurate determination of any initial data for producing an accurate shot will already lead to a noticeable deviation of the hit point from the aiming point even without taking into account the technical dispersion of the weapon-cartridge complex. For example, at a distance of 2000 m for a bullet of the 7N34 cartridge, an error in determining the range to the target of only 5 meters will lead to a shift of the STP in height by 0-00.2, i.e. about 40 cm - and this does not take into account other errors (errors of aiming, stalling weapons, errors in determining the direction and speed of the wind, errors in determining the ambient temperature and powder charge, etc., etc.). The real total error will reach 0-01, and only a clear, well-coordinated and professional work of the group can lead to the defeat of the target with a fairly high probability of a second or third shot.
  25. yehat
    yehat 30 September 2019 10: 35 New
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    Quote: dokusib
    Apart from the muzzle brake, maybe one could think of other mechanisms for suppressing recoil.

    this is the weight. it is so heavy, and so much that literally 3-5 rounds of ammunition are dragged to it.