NASA Unveils New Orion Spacecraft Capsule

NASA presented last Monday during an official ceremony, which was held at the Kennedy Center (Cape Canaveral), a capsule of a new spacecraft for research by deep-space scientists.

According to NASA Deputy Director Laurie Garver, transporting this Orion corps to the Kennedy Space Center is an important step in solving the task posed by US President Barack Abama - to send a man to 2025, an asteroid, and Mars to 2030. Delivering cargo and crew to the International Space Station with the help of private companies, NASA today directs all its efforts to develop a new generation of systems to conquer deep space. Garver also said that the delivery of the Orion capsule and the successful flight of the commercial spacecraft Dragon suggest that the United States space strategy is working.

The appearance of the Orion vehicle resembles the Apollo and Mercury spacecraft, which were used in the 60-70-s of the last century, but its dimensions exceed the size of the latter. The widest part of the new ship in diameter reaches five meters. The main contractor for NASA in this project, the Lockheed Martin aerospace corporation, manufactured an aluminum capsule case weighing 23 tons.

In the next year and a half, specialists will be assembling this spacecraft: they will install thermal protection, avionics, engines, power supply system, return system to Earth and other mechanisms.

On 2014, the first trial flight of the Orion spacecraft is scheduled. In particular, the capsule will be launched into space by the Delta-4 booster rocket, after which the UAV will make the 2 orbit around our planet Earth in orbit, which is up to 5,6 thousands of kilometers, and then descend into the waters of the Pacific Ocean. During the test flight it is supposed to carry out an inspection of the thermal protection systems and the operation of parachutes.

And in 2017, the second test flight of the Orion is planned to be held, which will be carried out with the help of a developed heavy rocket, which was called the “Space Launch System”. The third test flight with astronauts aboard has been assigned to 2021 year.

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[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Not bad, we have a handicap and this is the main thing. Plus, to be honest, I don’t see anything outstanding and breakthrough in this.

[DEMENTIY]

Alexey Prikazchikov
I agree that there is not much breakthrough yet. However, the music of the "Union" did not last long after the death of the shuttle. Their pace is commendable.

[chukapabra]

Quote: DEMENTIY

I agree that there is not much breakthrough yet. However, the music of the "Union" did not last long after the death of the shuttle. Their pace is commendable.

You probably forget about the flights of the naya moon and the Shuttle program, we can’t boast of anything similar. (A single flight of Buran does not count)
They closed the shuttle to the Uzge, as hopeless for further tasks, which we simply did not reach. Their new capsule is just 3 times larger than Soyuzovskaya, I don’t know about the filling (I think no worse)
We actually fly on ships 30 years ago. Only now a ship with a digital control system is being tested, think about it - the backlog is more than 25 years from NASA. Until now, they flew on an analog system. And you say hurt and handicap. Not her long ago. Nasa allows itself to hastily develop how the ships of the future for the delivery of goods and crew, more precisely, a universal reusable platform (near space) and deep space (article above)
What Glavkosmos is doing (with all state funding) they are already quietly doing private firms (or hired Glavkosmos). And not because they don’t or cannot. They just do not want to spend neither effort nor money on maintaining their spent.

[slas]

Quote: chukapabra

You probably forget about the moonlight flights

[Zynaps]

They uzge shuttle shuttle, as hopeless for further tasks

she and the current was not very promising. because the shuttles were not completely reusable, very expensive and capricious in operation, with low autonomy and low orbit, not to mention the fact that NASA, along with the shuttles, was knee-deep in the blood.

then what we just didn’t get to

reached and closed as unnecessary. for "Buran" there were no goals and objectives. here is the fact that during its development the interesting and promising "Spiral" was taken away - this is bad.

We actually fly on ships 30 years ago.

so what? yes even over 9000 years ago. no one else has one horseradish equivalent in terms of reliability, price and experience of using spacecraft. the Chinese, apparently, are idiots - since they took the path of "alliances", and not fashionable ruffles. what about this sad fact?

Until now, they flew on an analog system.

what don't you like again? if the system is reliable and works as it should - purkua and not na? or should Reason again be sacrificed to Good and Trend? There is a good engineering commandment, gained through suffering by generations of developers and operators - "does it work? Don't touch it !!!" it often happens that the best becomes the enemy of the good.

I also recall that the analog system is more stable in a deep vacuum and in the presence of ionizing radiation. IC protection technologies from these two factors have appeared relatively recently. and when I was studying, the system of screens and protections of digital equipment weighed more than the analog control system. there is such a word - expediency.

And you say hurt and handicap. Not her long ago.

but I listened not so long ago to the still alive academician Chertok Boris Evseevich, so he had the opposite opinion. and for some reason I believe him a lot more. the problem is not ideas. a problem in the training system and the quality of management personnel. First you need to eliminate the mess in the industry. for there is financing, as well as development.

Nasa allows himself to slowly develop how ships of the future

it’s good that without hurry. You can stock up on popcorn and take a seat in the front row. To reliably run in such a system, you need to make many flights and replace a lot. such projects are not being solved suddenly. Americans themselves have a certain degradation in the space industry. wait and see.

What Glavkosmos is doing (with all state funding) private companies are already quietly doing with them

yeah yeah. Astronaut Farmer with his family gathers spacecraft in his pigsty. a list of private companies that quietly carry out space launches for their major launches - to the studio!

so far, without the help of the state, no private firms have succeeded. it is so far nothing more than good wishes and the production of small modules. riding tourists on subcosmic space ship one does not count.

[chukapabra]

Quote: Zynaps

because the shuttles were not completely reusable

Of course, not quite, so they flew for 35-30 years (by the way, including the carrier, it’s also reusable, and not to crush the worked steps of the sheep in Altai

Quote: Zynaps

with low autonomy and low orbit

Well, yes, our balls are autonomous, highly orbital (by the way, why?) And make it possible to fly without entering the station and work in space.

Quote: Zynaps

left and closed as unnecessary. for "Buran" there were no goals and objectives.

And that justifies investing tens of billions in the program. Don’t tell me, I served in the military space industry and was present at the launch of Buran. (By the way, he didn’t fly right away)

Quote: Zynaps

We actually fly on ships 30 years ago.

so what?

And nothing, just a fact.

Quote: Zynaps

what again do not like? if the system is reliable and works as it should, would purkua not be pa?

The horse is even more reliable than the car and there are no accidents. And?

Quote: Zynaps

I also recall that the analog system is more stable in a deep vacuum and in the presence of ionizing radiation. IC protection technologies from these two factors have appeared relatively recently. and when I was studying, the system of screens and protections of digital equipment weighed more than the analog control system. there is such a word - expediency.

Fairy tales, everyone flies, but here their power is not justified by expediency.

Quote: Zynaps

for some reason I believe him a lot more. the problem is not ideas. a problem in the training system and the quality of management personnel.

I agree with this, read your comment about the digital system and screens - and you will understand everything. The problem is both in personnel and in preparation

Quote: Zynaps

Americans themselves have a certain degradation in the space industry. wait and see.

Pliz facts

Quote: Zynaps

yeah yeah. Astronaut Farmer with his family gathers spacecraft in his pigsty. a list of private companies that quietly carry out space launches for their major launches - to the studio!

Private companies developing their own space programs hope that they can go beyond space tourism alone and will compete and cooperate with leading space powers.
The first sign was a private spaceship called "Dragon", launched on Tuesday May 22 from the American spaceport at Cape Canaveral. It was launched into orbit by the Falcon 9 rocket. The Dragon went to the International Space Station and performs cargo functions.
Articles
Photo report: Falcon launch vehicle
NASA head announces new era in space exploration
ЧU.S. companies preparing for docking with ISS
It differs from other cargo spaceships in that it returns to the earth, and does not burn out in the atmosphere. Existing cargo ships return to the ground with garbage from the station and burn out along the road.
What does this news carry for the history of space exploration? The National Aeronautics and Space Administration for the first time allowed a private company to launch a spacecraft.
In previous years, space exploration was considered a priority for states. The "Space Club" automatically implied international prestige and recognition of the achievements of science and technology. Undoubtedly, the main competitive struggle then unfolded between the USSR and the USA.

[755962]

Quote: DEMENTIY

The pace is commendable.

And with the carrier they have in the "openwork". Option Delta IV Heavy, as of 2012, has the largest payload among all operated carrier rockets in the world.

[Burbulator]

Even an orbit with an altitude of 5,6 thousand km is not "outstanding" and "breakthrough" for you?
Well, I don’t know then ....

[Zynaps]

that's when this crap soars 5.6 thousand km - then you can drool with delight. for now, I recommend stocking up on popcorn. only a shabby capsule with the stated performance characteristics is shown. along the way, these capsules still fall on the head and will be replaced by more other capsules with more different performance characteristics. this usually happens. let's look at the movements of the Americans. they have already heroically lost the Ares project.

[White]

Explain to me what is the reason for such a categorical not accepting everything that was done not by GREAT RUSSIA.

[chukapabra]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

Not bad, we have a handicap and this is the main thing. Plus, to be honest, I don’t see anything outstanding and breakthrough in this.

in what? Expand the answer pliz.

[Zynaps]

I'm with you, experts, quietly losing weight without button accordion. Teach, as you can, only by photography, without TTX, with the eagle eye and the interaural ganglion alone, to evaluate the outstandingness and breakthrough of any technical crap? Did Petrik bite?

[snek]

The first test flight of the Orion spacecraft is planned for 2014.

And in 2017 it is planned to conduct a second test flight of the Orion

Somehow not very quickly the program plans to develop. In general, space has been abandoned, either by us (we are mainly dealing with launch vehicles), or by the Americans, who have abandoned the "constellation" program and, in general, have recently had fewer interesting projects. The only hope is that the Chinese will give a good kick and make a new space race begin.

[White]

Initially, this ship was designed to land on the moon and with the possibility of its use for research deep space .

After the cancellation of the flight to the moon, they generally wanted to close the project, and now they just work for the future since there are no specific flight plans for Mars and asteroids.

Orion will not be used to supply the ISS for that there is Dragon and Cygnus.

[Zynaps]

and now they just work for the future since there are no specific flight plans for Mars and asteroids.

not for the future, but for current needs. and we’ll see what actually happens there.

it will be possible to fly to Mars and asteroids only if there is a ready-made nuclear rocket engine, so that the whole round trip takes months, not years. because the problem of long-distance flights lies not so much in technology (you can already fly to Mars on a rocket engine), but in medicine. after a year of weightlessness, people with a huge loss of calcium in the body, practically disabled, are returned from orbit. and this despite the special nutrition and a set of exercises. for the next flight they will be rehabilitated for a long time, and some will never return to duty, which is very expensive.

with a rocket engine, a flight to Mars there and back will take more than 2 years, and even stay on Mars with reduced gravity. either corpses can fly back, or people simply cannot be returned to the field of ordinary gravity. So it goes.

in order to cool the hot heads a little, I can only advise you to recall the fate of the "Ares" project. there is no space race - the Americans have also degraded. we'll see what comes out of them.

[chukapabra]

Quote: snek

Somehow not very smartly the program plans to develop.

With them, it's just like in an old joke,

Near the meadow where the cows graze, a heifer (T) and an old bull stand on the hill
(B): T - Let's go down quickly and quickly and fuck that brown little chick!
B -...
t - And let’s go down quickly and quickly and fuck that little white girl !!
B -...
T - Well, let's go down quickly and quickly and fuck this little black one !!!
B - No, now we are slowly, very slowly going down and shuffling the whole herd

[suharev-52]

Yes, how long it was asked ... whether, it seems 25 years. If at least this time we did not destroy the backlog of the industry, then we would be ahead even now. And so we have already lost our leading positions. And the supreme leaders still continue to listen to the sweet-voiced chant of the court sycophants: "We are great." Fuck ... ayu from all this. Sincerely.

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Lastly, enlarge the photo from the computer.

[snek]

But wasn’t it easier to just give a link?
http://www.federalspace.ru/main.php?id=402 - вот если кому-то хочется почитать, но не возится с каждой отдельной картинкой.

[snek]

In general, I read it - a rather empty set of common phrases.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Bad read, read the breakout section again. And by the way, learn to read between the lines here directly, they don’t talk about such things.

[snek]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

Bad read, read the breakout section again.

so section of prarana:
2030 is a breakthrough line.

Its achievement is determined by the formulation and the beginning of the implementation of large-scale projects on the use of near space, research and development of deep space, including:
implementation of measures for the deployment and maintenance of orbital constellations of spacecraft, ensuring the formation and satisfaction in full and with the required quality of the needs of the socio-economic sphere, science, defense and security of the country in the results of space activities, the creation of advanced technologies for servicing, refueling and repairing spacecraft in near-Earth space;

Well, it’s like the same thing as now, only with refueling and repair (as I understand it, according to the authors in 2030 gas will be so expensive that it will be used only for satellites.

the creation of a single information field that provides relaying information in the structure of management and information support of the country, as well as objects in near and far space, on the surface of planets and bodies of the solar system;

Verbal diarrhea in its neglected stage. The only thing that is clear from this is that the author considers the words information and its derivatives to be fashionable

creation and constant updating of the information model of the Earth as an ecosystem;

Here - explain that I had to "read the honey of the lines"? "updating the information model of the Earth as an ecosystem" ... no words. I want to either shoot myself or shoot the author.

expanding Russia's capabilities to provide independent access to space - putting into operation the Vostochny spaceport, creating a super-heavy space rocket complex, as well as the necessary fleet of space tugs;

Well, at least a little specificity. But as soon as specifics appear, questions arise. Why create a superheavy carrier when there is already Energy? what kind of space tug fleet? etc.

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

And by the way, learn to read between the lines here directly, they don’t talk about such things.

Even as they say. The Chinese directly speak and call more or less exact dates. The European Space Agency has everything planned for years to come and this info is open. The same goes for NASA. So far they have nothing beyond what is interesting, but at least they are not involved in the creation and constant updating of information models of the Earth as an ecosystem, which cannot but rejoice.

[Passing]

We have not had any promising development completed on time (this is the best case), so the leading managers will make a straw for themselves in case of failure of the next space program, like we didn’t promise anything concrete, so we have some complaints everything is going according to plan.

[chukapabra]

Quote: snek

In general, I read it - a rather empty set of common phrases.

As for the strategy, we are strong, with practice and implementation it is a problem. Generally speaking, it’s nice to talk, promise and forget (after mastering the dough) - we have no equal. Most importantly, you will not find the guilty, unless aliens)

[snek]

Quote: chukapabra

Most importantly, you will not find the guilty, unless aliens)

And here you are mistaken. Something, but they know how to look for the guilty. Here you have some tricky NASA laser that does something well until we see it, and the damned fifth column, which pours sugar into the Progress cans at night, is also a popular topic - Western saboteurs.

[USNik]

The bare hull of 23 tons, plus equipment, plus engines with fuel, plus man-nauts, as a result, will tighten by about 45 tons. How are they going to launch such a carcass into "deep space"? Really found the old drawings of Saturn5 8-D?

[Passing]

This is a mistake, not a 23-ton case, but the whole device will be of such mass

[chukapabra]

Quote: Passing by

This is a mistake, not a 23-ton case, but the whole device will be of such mass

which they will launch.

[chukapabra]

Quote: USNik

The bare hull of 23 tons, plus equipment, plus engines with fuel, plus man-nauts, as a result, will tighten by about 45 tons. How are they going to launch such a carcass into "deep space"? Really found the old drawings of Saturn5 8-D?

howl. The thinker will understand, soon we will see a new superheavy carrier at NASA. Or do you think they will launch it from a slingshot?

[snek]

Interesting on the space theme:

Seven countries and two international companies in the first half of 2012 completed 35 launches of space launch vehicles, the press service of NPO Energomash reported on Wednesday.
“For the first time, China took the lead, having completed 10 launches, Russia (9 launches) and the USA (eight launches) in second and third places,” the report said, Interfax reports.
Arianespace has completed three launches. Japan, India, Iran, North Korea and the Sea Launch consortium - one at a time.
According to NPO Energomash, China used various modifications of the Great March launch vehicle family for its launches. Russia carried out launches with the help of launch vehicles Proton (five launches) and Soyuz (four launches). The United States used Atlas-5 rockets (three launches) and Delta-4 rockets (three launches), as well as Falcon-9 and Pegasus XL rockets (both each with one launch).
Arianespace conducted two launches using Arian-5 launch vehicles (two launches) and a Vega light rocket. The Indian PSLV, the Japanese N-2A and the Iranian Safir-1B made one start this year. The launch of the North Korean Eunha-3 missile is considered emergency.
Of the 35 launches of space launch vehicles in every third launch (13 launches, 37% of the total), the development engines of NPO Energomash were used, the report says.
The enterprise’s engines were used on Russian Proton, Soyuz, Zenit and American Atlas-5 missiles.

taken: http://www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/2023/

[chukapabra]

Quote: snek

The enterprise’s engines were used on Russian Proton, Soyuz, Zenit and American Atlas-5 missiles.

The fact about the engines has long been known and the best Russian engines in the world. But the question is why, having such engines, do not have normal rockets?
Everything is like with oil, gas, development and scientific thought. In parts ahead of the rest, and assembled - Lada Kalina

[Zynaps]

In parts ahead of the rest, and assembled - Lada Kalina

dude. turn on your brain sometimes. you don't even understand what nonsense you just blurted out. I suppose you think - why not Mercedes - BMW? but because in a country with a poor population (and low labor productivity along the way), it is more profitable to produce exactly the frets-viburnum. the level of income does not correspond to the level of demands of the population, which give the Nissan Qashqai. There is one more economic point: if the cost of repairing equipment is high (as with German cars), then gross production is more profitable than quality. for its class Lada-Kalina is quite a normal cart. it is collected in Ukraine and Jordan, and elsewhere (I don't remember all the countries). therefore, there is demand. people need to stretch their legs on their clothes. and if there is no money for the opera "Chio-chio-san", then go to the local recreation center and listen to "Valenki" and the choir of balalaika players.

and what is - "we do not have normal missiles"? "alliances" with "protons" have already been recognized by someone as worthless junk?

[chukapabra]

Quote: Zynaps

dude. turn on the brain at least sometimes

Quote: chukapabra

In parts ahead of the rest, and assembled - Lada Kalina

Lada-Kalina as an example of technological * perfection *. Lack of sense of humor - this is not gut.

Quote: Zynaps

and what is - "we do not have normal missiles"? "alliances" with "protons" have already been recognized by someone as worthless junk?

So the Lada of the first model still rides. By the way, with these missiles they are almost the same age. Well, about the transition to a digital system on spacecraft, read above

[bamboo]

hmm, then explain why the cost of this very crippled fret is equal to the cost of a foreign car, have you ever ridden this rattle ?????
about the quality I can finally keep silent !!!! with respect)))
P.S
Or Lada Kalina your car))))) damn well, I'm unsure!))))

[Alexey Pototsky]

What is behind such a big primus ??? Or a pan with holes?

[Alexey Pototsky]

What is behind such a big primus ??? Or a pan with holes?

[mind1954]

Why don’t they move forward! We will build them, then the engines,
supply !!!

[Honory]

Persistent guys these Americans, slowly, slowly moving forward.