Electric charge. The case of Tazer lives and thrives

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History create a taser. I don’t know how anyone, but I don’t really like American “life” movies, where good people sometimes have “unkind faces” and bad ones - on the contrary, “handsome” ones. I don’t like the fact that a black actor is necessarily per one white actor, and if the second actor is white, then the black one is the opposite, and vice versa. And their slum speech is simply annoying - all these “bro”, “dudes” ... I heard “theirs”, “with him”, “notable”, “read” here, and only hear it from other ethnic groups. accessories and do not want to. Whether the good old movie "Gone With the Wind" or "The River Without Return", or the 50 series about the lawyer Perry Mason. It's all there, like ... well, let's say the way I like it. But in one of these “realistic” movies I heard the phrase: “Do not tell me, bro,” and the white policeman turned black slum dweller. “Canadian wolf to you bro!” - I would answer him in the place of this cop, but in the era of universal tolerance this, of course, did not happen. I didn’t like everything that happened further, but I liked it weaponwhich this cop was holding in his hands is a taser. And of course, many people know everything about him today. But ... maybe try to tell about it again, relying on information from the American manufacturer of tasers?


US policeman with a taser




"And do you have to take a pea plant too?"


And it was like this that XA NUMX, a former NASA worker Jack Cover, thought that, probably, it was not worthwhile to threaten a man with firearms, whom he was asked to stop when arrested. But he will not stop and then what to do? Shoot him? And if his wine is small - then how? In short, he wanted to create such a weapon, which would be quite portable, and at the same time could immobilize a person without causing him serious injuries. He worked for five years and in 1969, he made such a device and not only manufactured it, but managed to get a patent for it. Cover gave the name Taser to the new weapon (in honor of the hero of his favorite science fiction novel by Thomas Swift, who shot there with an electric rifle). But the patent seemed to him a little. And he began producing his tasers.

True, he immediately had to deal with legal chicaneism. Since in his model the cartridges with electrodes were activated with gunpowder, the government equated the taser with a firearm, the issue of which is not even so easy to organize in the States. However, Cover was a stubborn man and came up with a replacement for gunpowder. The new model has become pneumatic! Moreover, in 1994, a device was added to the taser with which it was possible to identify its place of use. The solution was simple, but effective: at the time of the shot, along with the departing electrodes, marked confetti was also thrown away, so it would have been easy for the police to identify the shooter.

In 1999, a model went on sale, which in addition to electric shock caused the affected neuromuscular contractions. In the further improvement of tasers went on the way of increasing their ammunition, and so no other innovations have appeared on them.

"He shot once, he shot two ..."


The taser is designed in such a way that each shot at the enemy can be fired from 1 to 3 cartridges. The cartridge itself consists of a pair of tiny arrow-shaped elements resembling harpoons, to which are attached thin copper wires going to the actual taser. Shots occur, as in any airgun: from the stock of compressed gas (in this case it is nitrogen).


This is how he shoots!


Swept elements stick into the clothes of the enemy so that they are very difficult to tear off, and electric current flows through the wires that pull from them. The supply of copper wire is enough for a distance of 11 meters. In urban conditions, it is not enough. It would be possible to increase the range, but then the “destructive power” of them will also increase, so the degree of damage will be greater. That is why they don’t want to increase it!

A striking factor in the action of a taser is the electrical charge, which is transmitted to the target just along these wires and sends an impulse to the brain. Well, and after that, in turn, it sends impulses to all the muscles on the body of the enemy, they cause their nervous contraction, which immobilizes it instantly.

Today, tasers are actively used by the American police in arresting violators of public order. A pair of taser shots and the strongest and most violent African-American becomes submissive and stop resisting. All of this is positive and much more acceptable when detaining offenders and criminals than shooting them with colts of 45 caliber. However, despite this, a number of special organizations are trying to limit or even completely eliminate the use of tasers.

But there are those who oppose ...


For example, in the United States there is an organization that collects all cases of taser impact on victims that is excessive and dangerous for people. More than 34 000 such examples have already been collected. It is planned with all this to appeal to the Supreme Court in order to achieve a complete ban on such weapons. Moreover, it is very difficult to prove the redundancy of their impact, because, of course, a person who has been exposed to a taser evaluates it extremely subjectively. Many countries, such as Argentina, Hong Kong and Sweden, do not recognize the taser at all, and consider it to be a type of firearms. Tasers in them are prohibited and can not be used against citizens under any circumstances.

A similar ban on the purchase of tasers, as well as on their importation and use, exists in our country as well. Moreover, this prohibition has already existed since 1996.

First steps on the market


It is clear that Kaver himself would have been difficult to expand the production of tasers, but in 1991 there were two Americans, Rick and Tom Smith, who created AIR TASER, Inc., and jointly developed a device on compressed nitrogen. After almost complete bankruptcy and the sale of other products, such as an electric car-based anti-theft system for cars, known as “Auto Taser,” the company, later renamed TASER International, finally introduced its sample TASER M1999 in 26. With a deficit of 2001 in millions of dollars in 6,8, TASER International was able to increase sales by applying an original marketing ploy: she offered to pay police officers to teach others how to use their products. This approach proved to be effective, and the deficit turned into a surplus, reaching 24,5 million US dollars of net sales by the 2003 year and almost 68 million US dollars in the 2004 year. As early as May 2001, the company began issuing shares and bidding on the stock exchange under the TASR symbol. Has got and competitors ...

Patent claims by TASER International led to the closure of competing firms such as Stinger Systems and its successor company, Karbon Arms. Interestingly, despite all the criticism and the decent number of deaths associated with the use of tasers, the company has managed to maintain its dominant position in the market and maintains it to this day.

Shift towards cameras


However, the market is the market. His laws are harsh and you need to release something new all the time. In 2005, TASER International launched the production of additional accessories for its tasers, and in particular, a camera that is activated after removing it from the fuse, and removes everything that happens before the shooter. By October, the 2010 of the year sold at least 45 000 cameras to TASER, which was a record.

TASER CEO Rick Smith explains this success by saying that he was able to provide "revolutionary collection, storage and digital evidence for law enforcement." In 2009, after Attorney Daniel Shu rehabilitated Fort Smith's police officer Brandon Davis based on the company's camera records, and Davis and Shu themselves set out their reviews about the new product in the press, the production of the cameras went uphill. In addition, these cameras could be attached to anything that, for the police, who were often accused of excessive use of violence, turned out to be truly a magic wand.

The value of the product determines the market!


In April 2013, the Rialto Police Department released the 12 month-long study on the use of new Axon Flex cameras. The study showed that complaints filed against officers decreased by 88%, and the number of cases of use of force by officers decreased by almost 60%.

TASER opened an office in Seattle in 2013, and an international office in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, in May 2014. In June, 2015, the company announced the creation of a new unit in Seattle, known as Axon, which will cover the company's technology enterprises, including the production of television cameras. 5 April 2017, TASER announced its renaming to Axon, which is due to the expansion of its business. And in May 2018, Axon bought another competing company VieVu for 4,6 million dollars in cash and 2,5 million dollars for ordinary shares ... So the taser case is alive and well! The company's advertising brochure says that their “smart equipment” saved the lives of 140000 people. Then it's really great. Even if this figure is exaggerated by half!
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  1. -9
    4 August 2019 05: 28
    A striking factor in the action of a taser is the electrical charge, which is transmitted to the target just along these wires and sends an impulse to the brain. Well, and after that, in turn, it sends impulses to all the muscles on the body of the enemy, they cause their nervous contraction, which immobilizes it instantly.

    And if the one against whom this taser core was used? After all, muscle contraction occurs. And the heart is muscle. Vel can contract so that it stops completely.
    I’m not a doctor, most likely I’ve misunderstood something, but if someone explains it is available that it’s not, I will be grateful
    1. +18
      4 August 2019 07: 05
      Quote: Lipchanin
      A striking factor in the action of a taser is the electrical charge, which is transmitted to the target just along these wires and sends an impulse to the brain. Well, and after that, in turn, it sends impulses to all the muscles on the body of the enemy, they cause their nervous contraction, which immobilizes it instantly.

      And if the one against whom this taser core was used? After all, muscle contraction occurs. And the heart is muscle. Vel can contract so that it stops completely.
      I’m not a doctor, most likely I’ve misunderstood something, but if someone explains it is available that it’s not, I will be grateful

      Every Lusha will have what their Colt 45 will shoot at him.
    2. +18
      4 August 2019 07: 08
      Quote: Lipchanin
      And if the one against whom this taser core was used?

      Then he needs to stay at home and not jerk against the police. wink
    3. +8
      4 August 2019 07: 15
      Quote: Lipchanin
      And if the one against whom this taser core was used?

      Then from the painful shock from the "safe", not giving ricochets bullets will die with the highest probability. And from a taser, it is much less likely.
    4. +1
      4 August 2019 15: 18
      Taser is sometimes called "remote stun gun" ... by the way, stun guns are also used by police in a number of countries!
      Quote: Lipchanin
      And if the one against whom this taser core was used

      So, in Russian it was said: there is a certain percentage of deaths, but despite this ......
    5. 0
      12 January 2022 22: 58
      For starters, people with heart disease commit crimes by signing papers and participating in international economic forums, so if they use weapons with electricity, they will be used to synchronously undermine the implosive sphere.
      And on the topic - in order to "drive" electricity into such a depth of the body, you need a current (not voltage) value that is inaccessible to hand weapons. Damage to the heart is typical for accidents in industry, when there is a network and a wire of large cross section.

      On the topic in general - a three-shot taser is expensive for the police, X26 and earlier are mostly common. The main trouble is the short range, really 3 - 5m. The second trouble with this thing is its uselessness against any interference. Even if a Negro stands behind a cardboard box, one electrode will not reach. If one electrode misses in bad weather, the police officer receives an electric shock from the leg to the arm, and at least falls and drops the weapon.
      The cost of a shot of $ 40 does not add popularity to the artifact either. In Alaska, he is also not very efficient.
      The fundamental drawback is that the wire is unwound from the "box" next to the "barrel" channel, that is, the unwinding resistance leads the arrows to the sides. In the LEA patent, the wire is laid inside the boom, which improves accuracy. But after leaving there in 2009, they don’t know what is there and how it is with production.
  2. +4
    4 August 2019 05: 31
    I remember in "Pekrasnoe Daleko" the guys indulged in discharging the capacitor into the ass of the "victim". They did not guess to banter the "toy" to the ent!
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 07: 10
      Quote: andrewkor
      discharging the capacitor into the ass of the "victim".

      And the capacitors were different, some weaker, others more powerful. It was fun. good
      1. +4
        4 August 2019 17: 15
        ,,, aha laughing while charging through an outlet, sometimes they exploded, at school half of the outlets were black wassat
        1. +1
          4 August 2019 18: 29
          Quote: bubalik
          while charging through an outlet, sometimes exploded,

          We have never had it, but there was a specific crack when charging! good
  3. +6
    4 August 2019 06: 28
    Quote: Lipchanin
    I’m not a doctor, most likely I’ve misunderstood something, but if someone explains it is available that it’s not, I will be grateful

    That's right, that's why there are many opponents of the taser, and in many countries it is banned. But the cores usually do not do illegal things and do not run from the police.
    1. +3
      4 August 2019 06: 35
      Quote: kalibr
      cores are usually not involved in illegal activities and do not run from the police

      And if it's a latent core? laughing
      1. +10
        4 August 2019 06: 36
        And if, yes why ... And if in it a shot from a Colt 45 caliber? Will he feel better?
        1. +4
          4 August 2019 06: 42
          Quote: kalibr
          And what if he shoots from a Colt 45 caliber? Will he feel better?

          IMHO is unlikely. But the joke is that the taser is kind of non-lethal, which certainly can not be said about Colt.

          Okay. The idea, in general, is clear.
          1. +2
            4 August 2019 07: 12
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            But the joke is that the taser is kind of non-lethal

            And the asmatic and allergic can "close their eyes" from the pepper spray! wink
            1. +3
              4 August 2019 07: 14
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And the asmatic and allergic can "close their eyes" from the pepper spray

              Yeah. And also from a blow to the head with a hammer.

              But the article is about taser Yes
              1. 0
                4 August 2019 07: 15
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                But the article is about taser

                How about non-lethal weapons, huh? wink
                1. +1
                  4 August 2019 07: 21
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  How about non-lethal weapons, huh?

                  And non-lethal (because it’s not intended to kill), and, even more so, not lethal (since it categorically does not know how to fly).

                  Man, flood is prohibited, Rules, paragraph c. After all, then you will begin to whine again, that I am complaining to administrators about you laughing
                  1. +4
                    4 August 2019 07: 35
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    complaining

                    Knock kitty, knock. wink For the slightest reason.
                    According to the article, your remark, as well as Lipchanin’s, is not very appropriate, since you can cause death absolutely any non-lethal weapon.
                    1. -4
                      4 August 2019 07: 57
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72

                      Trolling, by the way, is also prohibited.

                      Pulling words out of context and distorting the meaning of what the opponent said is trolling.

                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Kisa

                      You run up, Igor.
                    2. +2
                      4 August 2019 10: 30
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      complaining

                      Knock kitty, knock. wink For the slightest reason.
                      According to the article, your remark, as well as Lipchanin’s, is not very appropriate, since you can cause death absolutely any non-lethal weapon.

                      Yeah, an unclipped nail can damage the brain through the eye. laughing
                      1. -3
                        4 August 2019 12: 01
                        Quote: Not bad
                        Yeah, an unclipped nail can damage the brain through the eye.

                        It does not threaten you! wink Although the eye will still suffer. wassat
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                      3. +2
                        4 August 2019 12: 24
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Not bad
                        Yeah, an unclipped nail can damage the brain through the eye.

                        It does not threaten you! wink Although the eye will still suffer. wassat

                        I can’t tolerate unshaved nails, so observe personal hygiene, but if you bite on this, you can get it by hand or mosel, to choose from. wink
                  2. 0
                    4 August 2019 22: 57
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    and, even more so, not lethal (since it categorically does not know how to fly).

                    Those who fly are called Flying, and the lethal is a completely different topic.
            2. +2
              4 August 2019 07: 58
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And the asmatic and allergic can "close their eyes" from the pepper spray! wink

              Strictly speaking, the so-called. "tear" formulations are combat agents. I think pepper spray is the same

              It's just that "non-lethal" weapons don't really exist. Advertising move. We can only talk about the "ease of murder", "the probability of murder" And if we compare a traumatic with a service pistol and a pistol with an atomic bomb, then in the second case he is much more "non-lethal"
              1. 0
                4 August 2019 08: 11
                Quote: Spade
                "non-lethal" weapons do not really exist. Advertising move

                Tired of already saying that the quantifier of community in assertions is evil.

                There are, for example, devices that shoot the net. Exotic, yes, but to kill them - it is necessary to try very hard.
                1. +4
                  4 August 2019 08: 14
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  There are, for example, devices that shoot the net.

                  And they can be killed. Just making it harder than a shotgun.
                  1. +1
                    4 August 2019 08: 19
                    Quote: Spade
                    And they can be killed

                    Clear. Does awl shave? (with)

                    Shah, I know that you're always right laughing

                    PS: and crocodiles fly. Low-low ...
                    1. +2
                      4 August 2019 08: 32
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      PS: and crocodiles fly. Low-low ...

                      Mi-24? Watching which helicopters to compare

                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Does awl shave? (with)

                      Yes. Only it is long and painful.

                      =======
                      In general, if we want adequate users of weapons, the word "non-lethal" must be abandoned. "Reduced damaging effect", nothing more.

                      A person should be aware that even a pepper spray can be killed quite easily. Asthmatics, heart patients, allergy sufferers .... And here's a corpse from a "non-lethal weapon", and a wise-nosed, far-sighted man in handcuffs. The main fault of which is. that he believes in advertising.
          2. +2
            4 August 2019 07: 18
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            But the joke is that the taser is kind of non-lethal, which certainly can not be said about Colt.

            8))))
            Judging by the ease with which the American police use the Colts for their intended purpose, this does not really matter. The "threshold of application" psychology does not work here anymore. It can manifest itself only when the threshold for firearms is very high.
  4. +5
    4 August 2019 08: 58
    Quote: Lipchanin
    And if the one against whom this taser core was used?

    - and if the detainee has a police phobia, and he has a loud police command like "stand!" seizures start?
    - and if the detainee has a teal in his hand, and from the fact that he was grabbed by the hand, there will be acute pain ?;
    - and if the detainee has his belt fastened hidden under his clothes, the urinal - and from the touch of a policeman, the contents of the bag will soak the clothes, which will inevitably cause the detainee to suffer psychological shock, moral trauma and generally diminish his human dignity?
    - And if the detainee considers the police officer’s team sexual harassment ?;
    - And if the detainee has rhabdafobia (fear of punishment)?
    - and if ... if ...
    In general, any common sense can be "twisted" into absurdity. But one must understand that the persons whom the police threaten to "shmalnu" from the taser are typuses who a) were at the scene of some kind of offense; b) are suspected of an offense (and often this is obvious, for example, if the "suspect" kills someone with a knife); c) did not obey the command of the policeman "stop, hands up", etc.
    And here we must proceed from the fact that a) the suspect "with a sick heart" must himself assess the risk of disobeying the policeman and catching a discharge; b) if you choose between a threat to society from the unrestrained actions of the suspect and the potential threat to cause some harm to the suspect during arrest (which is far from a fact) - I would choose the latter.
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 18: 29
      Quote: Tarasios
      - and if the detainee has a polyphobia,
      A similar question practically at all "studies" for weapons is asked.
      Like ... - and if with a bare hand several pregnant wheelchair users with children attack?
  5. 0
    4 August 2019 09: 50
    It would be possible to increase the range, but then their "lethal force" will also increase, so that the degree of damage will be greater.
    I do not understand, with distance increases the current strength? But what about the resistance of the copper wire?
    1. +4
      4 August 2019 10: 32
      It's not about the current, but about the power of the ejection of swept elements. The farther we shoot, the stronger they need to be thrown out and the more damage from them when shooting at close range
  6. +3
    4 August 2019 11: 39
    , and with a bunch of mistakes - for example, where did the author take a range of 11 meters from? As if the manufacturer himself is more modest and points to the most advanced TASER Advanced M26c - 15-foot or 4.5 meter range laughing
    A similar ban on the purchase of tasers, as well as on their importation and use, exists in our country as well. Moreover, this prohibition has already existed since 1996.[B] [/ b]
    Can you tell me the numbers and data of the normative act prohibiting the import of teasers from 96?
    GOST R 50940-96 applies only to civilian EShUs and EShu for protection, but civilian Taser Pulse which actually were imported in small quantities fit into its requirements - why in small? because the price was prohibitive both for the shocker itself and for cartridges, therefore, they were not popular, and with the advent of much cheaper domestic counterparts, such as the M-140 AIR, they stopped importing at all because of the futility of selling here.
    ... For the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB FSIN, etc. OST 78.01.0009-2002 is valid, so in the case of import for "offices" there are no obstacles for the import of police officers M26, except for their price of course laughing that is precisely why the offices purchase official EShUs from domestic manufacturers - including shooting ones.
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 11: 53
      Quote: gross kaput
      , and with a bunch of mistakes - for example, where did the author take a range of 11 meters from? As if the manufacturer himself is more modest and points to the most advanced TASER Advanced M26c - 15-foot or 4.5 meter range laughing
      A similar ban on the purchase of tasers, as well as on their importation and use, exists in our country as well. Moreover, this prohibition has already existed since 1996.
      Can you tell me the numbers and data of the normative act prohibiting the import of teasers from 96?
      GOST R 50940-96 applies only to civilian EShUs and EShu for protection, but civilian Taser Pulse which actually were imported in small quantities fit into its requirements - why in small? because the price was prohibitive both for the shocker itself and for cartridges, therefore, they were not popular, and with the advent of much cheaper domestic counterparts, such as the M-140 AIR, they stopped importing at all because of the futility of selling here.
      ... For the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB FSIN, etc. OST 78.01.0009-2002 is valid, so in the case of import for "offices" there are no obstacles for the import of police officers M26, except for their price of course laughing that is precisely why the offices purchase official EShUs from domestic manufacturers - including shooting ones.


      First of all, they are not imported due to a direct ban on foreign shockers, which was sold by domestic manufacturers, or rather, one of the manufacturers. I recently examined in detail the situation with shockers in the Russian Federation.

      14 Article. Acquisition on the territory of the Russian Federation, import into the Russian Federation and export from the Russian Federation of civil weapons by foreign citizens

      Mechanical sprays, aerosol and other devices equipped with tear or irritating substances, electroshock devices and spark gaps domestic production, pneumatic weapons with muzzle energy of not more than 7,5 J and caliber up to 4,5 mm inclusive, as well as foreign citizens structurally similar to weapons, are eligible to acquire in the Russian Federation without obtaining a license.

      The police and special services probably can, but why should they, when they have their own analogs no worse ...
      1. +1
        4 August 2019 16: 15
        And what does the procedure for acquiring ESH by foreign citizens have to do with it?
        1. 0
          4 August 2019 16: 16
          Once again, in what normative act is a direct ban on the import of foreign-made ESHs registered?
  7. +1
    4 August 2019 13: 12
    Many countries, such as Argentina, Hong Kong and Sweden, do not recognize the taser at all, and consider it a type of firearm. The tasers in them are prohibited and cannot be used against citizens under any circumstances.

    A similar ban on the purchase of tasers, as well as on their importation and use, exists in our country as well. Moreover, this prohibition has already existed since 1996.


    Here you can misunderstand the meaning of the prohibition. We do not have a ban on the purchase of shooting shockers, we have a ban on the purchase of any specific foreign electroshock devices, including a "taser".

    And so we have domestic shooting shokers: "Scorpion", "Malvina", "AIR-107U" and so on. Another question is that they did not receive wide distribution, like stun guns in general.
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 14: 55
      Quote: rait
      And so we have domestic shooting shockers:

      Not only that, they are. In terms of performance, it is better than Taser.
      For example GARD - "Multi-charging remote-contact electroshock device". With "clips / magazines" for 5 shots, the possibility of replacement in a few seconds as in a conventional short barrel + the possibility of contact defeat before and after all shots are consumed.
      Even your president held in his hands and appreciated this product. https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/2160803/
      Moreover, foreign manufacturers have long been using the achievements and patents of Russian engineers. But I will not engage in advertising, it’s just a shame for the state.

      Unfortunately, in Russia there are no powerful government agencies interested in conducting further research in this direction. Take at least the development of an ECHO with nanosecond pulses. Darpa closed access to any of her new research information on this topic a couple of years ago. That they are by the kindness of their souls, not otherwise))

      You have serious minds and engineers on this subject. And the "world community" will eventually change the civilian firearm to a non-lethal one. Let it last 50-100 years, but everything will come to the conclusion that the right to take the life of a criminal will remain only with the "gods." The rest only did not fly, and then only with the special permission of the gods.
      Although naturally there is no absolute non-lethal weapon, as there will always be an opportunity to take the life of another at least simply by hand. But they try to minimize this opportunity by all means.
      Monopoly in the right to violence should be. Another question is who should it be.
    2. 0
      4 August 2019 21: 07
      Quote: rait
      We do not have a ban on the purchase of shooting shockers, we have a ban on the purchase of any specific foreign electroshock devices, including a "taser".

      Once again, WHICH REGULATORY ACTION IS THIS PROHIBITION FORMED? We do not have such a ban on the import of civilian weapons as there is a ban on the import of weapons that do not meet our requirements, therefore any sample of imported weapons passes certification during which the question is solved whether it can be allowed in the Russian Federation or not.
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 05: 37
        Once again, WHICH REGULATORY ACTION IS THIS PROHIBITION FORMED?



        Federal Law "On weapons", article 6

        The following are prohibited on the territory of the Russian Federation:
        1) turnover as a civil and service weapon:

        of electroshock devices and spark arresters having output parameters exceeding the values ​​established in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation on technical regulation, the legislation of the Russian Federation on standardization and in accordance with the norms of the federal executive body, which carries out the functions of developing state policy and legal regulation in the field of health care as well as the specified types of weapons produced outside the territory of the Russian Federation;

        More questions? hi
  8. +1
    4 August 2019 15: 25
    I don’t remember Citizen Swift, but I do remember Captain Nemo and his crew that hunted animals and adversaries with pneumatic guns firing "electric bullets"! By the will of Jules Verne! So there is a reason to argue about priority! angry
  9. 0
    4 August 2019 17: 00
    Something like this in a democratic country of light elves with which our glorious leeroids are encouraged to take an example
    1. -5
      4 August 2019 17: 42
      I hope this ginseng has a son and grandchildren who have enough character to put a police badge in their throats and push them deeper with a club.
      1. +3
        4 August 2019 23: 01
        uh huh. And then this "ginshina", as you called it, due to its habit of driving a faulty car and spitting on the requirements of order and law (now one malfunction, tomorrow another, a common thing) - made an accident. In which, say, someone was killed or seriously wounded. So what? What should the children, relatives of the victim do because of the "principled carelessness"? What to grab and who where to "push deeper with a club" ??? And if it is your close relative / friend (not important) is the victim? Who will you blame? Yourself? Navryat, no one likes to do this;) Such an aunt? Or, most likely, the police? Like - they didn't save, didn't protect, didn't protect? Yes? ;)
        1. -2
          4 August 2019 23: 31
          Did you happen to be part of the punitive squads? Did you miss a psychiatric examination? The use of special equipment (and the taser is special equipment) only in case of threat and only after a few warnings. Having an advantage over the old woman, the policeman chose not to pick up the keys from her, but to hit him with the shocker. Turn on your head.
      2. 0
        5 August 2019 17: 41
        I envy the American policeman. All that was necessary was to follow the order and get out of the car.
        Further, the impudent old woman provoked everything.
        For which she ogrebla. Not deadly, but effective. Now the court and $ 80 she no longer shines. For disobedience and resistance, the policeman will have to pay much more. Pay twice to pay, stupid - ??

        If ours could so, I think it would fall into the mud with a muzzle on command and would not rock the boat.
        It does not threaten law-abiding citizens.
        In the meantime, the state has removed itself from everything that does not bring a suhbabla, from housing and communal services, from social programs and the like.
        They offer citizens to sue the DUK on their own (is there time and lawyers are free?) And defend themselves on their own. But this is dangerous. Try to apply legally and permitted, not the fact that you are not sitting down.
        It is a pity and the police, who are just targets, when they check the documents of some kind of car, are dying, on the way. Colleagues of course finish off bandits, but people cannot be returned.
        True, the law and descriptions write, according to shockers, it has the right to leave the scene of the incident without interfering with the state of the attacker.
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          5 August 2019 19: 06
          Here first fall under the lawlessness of the servants of the law, and then we'll see how you will regret them. A normal man in the police will not go to serve. Disdain. And the fact that the video shown is a blatant lawlessness.
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            6 August 2019 08: 28
            Quote: garri-lin
            Here first fall under the lawlessness of the servants of the law, and then we'll see how you will regret them. A normal man in the police will not go to serve. Disdain. And the fact that the video shown is a blatant lawlessness.


            This does not apply to any lawlessness, and a shocker is the most humane way to calm an intruder, well, after a tear gas.

            How many times have shown on our TV how the police pulled a drunken woman out of the car, she yells at them, fights, bites, and what to do with her? And you’ll start to use force to break something else or dislocate it, then there will be more problems.
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              6 August 2019 12: 11
              Here on the video a very drunk granny yells and fights. Do not say nonsense. The use of a shocker in a video is absolutely unjustified and is a clear excess.
          2. +1
            10 August 2019 00: 26
            I don’t drink so much that the police detained me. I don’t go to rallies, and the demonstrations were in the USSR, I don’t hooligan, I don’t steal, from which cellophane to detain me and beat me with electric current?
            As for the police, I don’t have illusions, but everyone except you has long known that the army and the police and other law enforcement agencies reflect the state of society. Start with yourself, learn to write without errors in simple words, respect the law and the rights of others .. eventually police will come to be changed
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              10 August 2019 01: 04
              I am writing as I can, I am non-Russian and do not live in Russia, although I consider the patriot of the USSR and Russia as the successor of the USSR the motherland. And about the illusions, I never fed. I myself try to live in accordance with Christian canons. But I see abuse from the side of executive bodies casually. Especially the traffic police. And friends live in America. They told you how it really is. If the policeman demands then do it or Khan. Comes to the point of absurdity. A pregnant girl in a swimsuit is searched for weapons. Where to put a weapon in a swimsuit? Zadornov was right.
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                11 August 2019 06: 41
                sorry for the remark about grammar, for non-Russians you write decently. Otherwise, I disagree. You cannot write about drowning without the opinion of friends. In Rossmm this is called one woman. All that I wrote to you can be attributed to my friends who complain about the traffic police . I had positive experience with the traffic police (transportation of bulky goods). As for the comments, yes, my wife drives and carries (I had rights but I didn’t use it — traveling cars at work, my wife at home). There were cases when they hung a new one in the arrogant sign in the tree branches and beat everyone with 5 thousand each. In the arrogant one. There were evacuators, there was an unlawful fine, although the car in the parking lot was parked, it was canceled through the court. But no one just beat, not arrested just like that. Basically, the video from YouTube is the scandals of driving drivers who are happy for some reason when they teach young or poorly educated traffic cops. And all the incidents, well, as a rule, are drunk or inadequate. Sometimes it’s not just a taser, a machine gun.
    2. +1
      4 August 2019 22: 55
      Great video) Such show-offs and impunity at first, and then - aah, I'm a simple village girl, and I didn’t think that ... please, I won’t, it hurts me (I even know such words, as it turned out). Chicken, pancake
  10. 0
    4 August 2019 17: 05
    Posh business idea: anti-taser clothing. The passive option is a simple insulator, the active one with a battery and a pulse generator, which causes taser batteries to explode (well, or at least a conductor above the insulator to organize a full-fledged short circuit).
    1. +3
      4 August 2019 17: 28
      Quote: bk0010
      The passive option is a simple insulator, the active one with a battery and a pulse generator, which makes taser batteries explode

      Yeah ... and walk with all this trouble all the time, expecting to get into you scary taizeр belay

      Not funny.
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        4 August 2019 18: 19
        Black bros will not be considered cool by those who do not have a T-shirt and T-shirt shorts! They are sissies and hold the gun vertically, not horizontally!
        But seriously - there are more idiotic bells and whistles in the fashion world, and nothing - go.
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          5 August 2019 16: 57
          Quote: bk0010
          Black bros will not be considered cool by those who do not have a T-shirt and T-shirt shorts!

          vidos looked like policemen with two tasers Niger had stopped, handcuffed cling began, he came to himself shove both of them, and then got out of the car trunk and threw one, wounding a second left ...
      2. 0
        6 August 2019 08: 28
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Quote: bk0010
        The passive option is a simple insulator, the active one with a battery and a pulse generator, which makes taser batteries explode

        Yeah ... and walk with all this trouble all the time, expecting to get into you scary taizeр belay

        Not funny.


        A shot from a pistol laughing
  11. 0
    4 August 2019 23: 03
    Quote: bk0010
    Posh business idea: anti-taser clothing. The passive option is a simple insulator, the active one with a battery and a pulse generator, which causes taser batteries to explode (well, or at least a conductor above the insulator to organize a full-fledged short circuit).

    a ban on the use of such clothing and generators, under the threat of heavy fines and imprisonment. Elementary Watson.
  12. +1
    5 August 2019 10: 02
    Knowing that no one will read this, except that Vyacheslav Olegovich, and even then it is doubtful, I allow myself to dwell on the introduction to the article.
    Even before the 92nd it was. Going down the escalator in the subway and accidentally squinting my eyes at the crowd, I saw a black man in her and shuddered wildly - so great was my horror! This was the only time in my life when I shuddered not from the cold. There was fear. I wondered - how could it be, because I was brought up in "Uncle Tom's Cabin", I am tolerant of people of different races, especially the unfortunate peoples of Africa - so what's wrong with me? And only recently reddit explained to me that what happened to me in those distant years is the body's defensive reaction to mixing its population with someone else's, which can lead to the death of the one to which you belong. Xenophobia is a manifestation of the natural defense mechanism of the race, the fight against which has so far been unsuccessful. And whether it is necessary to fight with it. You just don't have to get into each other's life. Go to visit, trade, do not enslave one race to another and do not start wars. Because we are genetically different. White is the mind of planet Earth, black is its rhythm, yellow is its hard work and perseverance. Now there is already a fourth race - the Arabs, the crowded race. And no matter how hard we try, the previously imposed interpenetration of races will not make them tolerant of each other. Because, say, the black race, no matter how they nod at the plight of its representatives in American society, is intellectually weaker than the white. And the indulgence in the form of preferential recruitment of blacks in the same place is not an establishment of justice for blacks, but an injustice for whites. Hence the hatred of white police officers for black offenders, on average much stronger than for white offenders.
    As for me, the gestures of our white rappers are disgusting to me. Because they are not characteristic of the white race. And I can’t help myself. And the Negro, whom she recently observed in the "Five", could not help himself. He squinted his eyes at the people passing by, and his face involuntarily twitched and even distorted with disgust - they say, these damned white! But people accustomed to tolerance for "suffering blacks" still walked by, not allowing them to show their faces "these damned blacks have already penetrated into our collective farm, there are few Tajiks for us, but now Uzbeks and Kyrgyz!"
  13. 0
    5 August 2019 11: 29
    Quote: garri-lin
    Did you happen to be part of the punitive squads? Did you miss a psychiatric examination? The use of special equipment (and the taser is special equipment) only in case of threat and only after a few warnings. Having an advantage over the old woman, the policeman chose not to pick up the keys from her, but to hit him with the shocker. Turn on your head.

    Are you so rude to me? Nude nude. "Policeman", which is logical - he acted according to the learned instructions. According to which he will answer, if that. Well, at least, I knew that the video was being recorded, so what's the point in tearing up your fart and aggressively attacking other commentators? Did you happen to be a member of the punitive squads? Did you miss a psychiatric examination?
    laughing
  14. 0
    5 August 2019 17: 21
    incomprehensible phrase:
    1. "The striking factor in the action of the taser is the electric charge, which is transmitted to the target just along these wires and sends an impulse to the brain. Well, after that, the latter, in turn, sends impulses to all the muscles on the opponent's body, they cause their nerve contraction, which something instantly immobilizes him. "
    Let’s logically ponder, harpoons do not first enter the brain, but into the body, muscle. I admit that there may be no reaction to a harpoon injection, the clothes are tangled or not reached the body. Therefore, we take the current for the main reason. The current flows between the harpoons with electrodes, i.e. the muscle will feel the first shock, the muscle will respond to the shock by paralysis.
    Only after that the signal comes to the brain through the nerves that the body was shocked.
    2. also not clear. Due to which elongation of the conductors can increase the current strength, if it is known from physics that the resistance of a conductor increases with its length. At this resistance, a part of the voltage drops, and between the electrodes it decreases, that is, according to the formula I = U / R, everything is visible. Maybe I went to school for a long time ..

    I will add that in Russia there are 2 classes for the purpose of shockers — special for security officials with a capacity of up to 10 watts and household for citizens with a capacity of no more than 3 watts. So it’s better not to fall under a police device. 3W work very significantly causing muscle paralysis according to descriptions for 1.5 minutes including respiratory muscles. 10w just
    I'm afraid to imagine, they can kill ..

    about analogs, I was interested in the topic for a long time, I saw and read a lot about multiply-charged up to 5 rounds of bullets (bulky). While my view stopped on the Thunder, not even because they make it in my Lower one, but in that it is compact, the latest models have become more expensive
    although the shape and color has become more serious. The little blue gun resembles a splatter box and an appropriate attitude. Now we have done a decent upgrade. the price of a civil pi for a century 10t. Although no one will come to my wilderness in the winter region.
  15. 0
    20 September 2019 07: 56
    It is very interesting that the modulations of the electronic magnetic pulse, which are different in principle, cause various reactions of the biological organism to such an effect. That is, in other words, it can be compared in the most primitive form as a rifled weapon and a smoothbore. But! What is especially interesting is that although it sounds fantastic, but having formed excess energy as potential, and therefore with the corresponding electronic magnetic potential of external breakdown, you can completely shoot such an object at the target of defeat. In general, I believe everyone knows that electronic magnetic pulses are very diverse processes. And the topic is very promising in all aspects.
  16. 0
    7 October 2019 21: 53
    In my opinion, I once heard about an electric laser, a small analogue. There, a laser beam is used as wires - it creates an ionized channel in the air, through which current flows.
    1. +1
      12 January 2022 23: 02
      This idea is very good theoretically. The two problems are the mass of the two ionizing lasers, and the weight of the insulation holding 30 kilovolts between them. The second is that with the power required for ionization, a current discharge is simply not needed - the enemy will receive a serious radiation injury, from which he will die.