This is not for you to drive on the desert! Self-propelled artillery is once again becoming popular in the West

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In recent years, NATO countries have shown great interest in self-propelled artillery. The statistics of industrial production and new developments indicates that the emphasis has shifted again towards conflict with an equal rival, in contrast to the counterinsurgency operations that have prevailed in recent decades.


The PzH 2000 howitzer was originally developed for the German army by KMW and Rheinmetall




According to Jörg Schlobach from Rheinmetall, the growth of the self-propelled artillery market is due to a change in the political landscape in a number of regions, especially along the European border with Russia.

He explained that the current dominant trend of transition to traditional military actions (similar to those planned during the Cold War) and the departure from asymmetric or counterinsurgency conflict is determined by the need for systems with long ranges, in some cases to 70 km.

Against this background, the demand for self-propelled platforms, offering good maneuverability and long-range at the same time, sharply increased. For example, recently the number of operators of the PzH 2000 howitzer, originally developed by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall for the German army, has approximately doubled, new customers in Croatia, Lithuania and more recently in Hungary have joined existing operators in Germany, Greece, Italy and the Netherlands.

"There is an increased demand for artillery, of course, this is due to a change in the political landscape, which is returning to something similar to a traditional war,"

- noticed Schlobach.

Opportunity Management


Mark Signorelli of BAE Systems noted that in the era of counter-insurgency operations, which began at the beginning of 2000, artillery was generally used very rarely except for the recent conflict in Syria. The artillery units of the American army, as a rule, performed more infantry and police tasks, but the situation began to change markedly "because the emphasis is again on returning to the threat of almost equal armored forces with highly effective artillery systems."

The units again began to devote much attention to the preparation for their basic tasks, there is an accelerated growth in many areas related to artillery, from guns with extended range to missile systems. “I think this really led to a re-evaluation and revival of artillery as a key component of ground combat. We are also starting to expand these opportunities. ”

Company BAE in the field of self-propelled artillery works in three main areas: self-propelled howitzer AS90, which is in service with the British army; Archer self-propelled unit offered for the US Army and other countries; and the M109 family of self-propelled howitzers, the newest version of which (M109А7) is adopted by the American army.

In recent years, technological development has gone in several directions. The M109А7 howitzer, for example, was designed with two main objectives in mind. First of all, it was necessary to improve mobility due to the new platform and chassis based on the Bradley BMP. “Mobility is one of the most important characteristics of such systems, that is, you can shoot off and then quickly leave the position,” Signorelli noted.

Secondly, the emphasis was placed on combat stability, which was enhanced by the integration of improved armor. The third, though not so urgent, was the modernization of the systems of the original version of the M109, aimed at solving any problems with aging.

Another characteristic of self-propelled artillery systems, the priority of which is likely to remain in the near future, is automation. One striking example is the Remote-Controlled Howitzer 155mm (RCH 155) 155-mm howitzer on the Boxer chassis. It is based on the KMW Artillery Gun Module, which contains a gun with an 52 barrel of Rheinmetall's caliber.

“The Boxer RCH 155 platform’s Artillery Gun Module is uninhabited and features automatic navigation and fire control. The ammunition targeting and loading processes are fully automated, said a spokesman for ARTEC, a joint venture between KMW and Rheinmetall. - The machine does not need to be equipped with hydraulic systems for firing. This leads to a reduction in crew size to two people (commander and driver) and gives great advantages with regard to the rapid change of positions - “shot and drove” - with a minimum crew size ”.


In recent years, the number of countries that bought a PzH 2000 howitzer has almost doubled


Automation


According to Schlobach, automation is essential for the process of loading ammunition. This is determined by several factors, not least the lack of human resources in many ground forces. He pointed to the increasingly high level of the network organization of the modern military: "Modern artillery and future artillery will be much more involved in network hostilities."

In the Israeli company Elbit Systems, automation is also called one of the most important trends in the field of self-propelled artillery, along with improved mobility. “Automation and autonomy are the key to a significant increase in combat effectiveness,” said a company spokesman. - Full automation of all processes in the gun, including the processing and loading of ammunition and guidance, can significantly increase the number of fire tasks that cannon can perform in a certain period of time, and thus increase the effectiveness of artillery units.

He noted that automation and autonomy are not yet at the right level of opportunity, allowing to provide the desired effect on the battlefield.

“In order to achieve maximum efficiency, the artillery component must bring in a balance of first-class guns that meet the needs of the army, appropriate command and control structures and systems, appropriate communications, tactics, etc. It should be a comprehensive and well-balanced solution. ”


However, Elbit believes that in the coming years, an increased emphasis on automation will be evident at all stages, from target identification to task execution. “We are confident that we have achieved the optimal solution to the complex engineering task of automating the gun itself, including all aspects of the processing and loading of ammunition, while the additional technological emphasis will be aimed at increasing the range and rate of fire of the artillery. - Said a company representative. “Of course, a lot of attention will be paid to improving the munitions themselves - their lethality, range and accuracy.”

Elbit’s current main product in this area is an ATMOS 155-mm howitzer on a truck chassis, which in 2018 was supplied to several customers; her representative said that several more contracts are expected to be signed during 2019.

“We believe that in the coming years, the need for self-propelled artillery will remain high due to the increased demand of the armies of many countries. This demand is a consequence of the evolving nature of conflicts and the recurring emphasis on readiness for high-intensity conflicts and conflicts with equal and almost equal armies, which necessitates powerful and maneuverable artillery, as well as the fact that existing artillery forces and equipment are becoming obsolete to such an extent that it is no longer worth developing solutions to extend their lifespan. ”


Accuracy around the head


According to a Thales representative, digitization is likely to have an increasing impact on fire control for self-propelled artillery and artillery in general. The company has a certain interest in this area.

“Like many spheres of military affairs, digitization changes the principles of artillery fire control. Digital fire control systems help improve accuracy, responsiveness and combat stability on the battlefield. They digitize fire control functions, which were previously performed by the gun manually. ”


The Thales portfolio includes the 120-mm mortar 2R2M, which can be mounted on various types of armored vehicles and is suitable for wheeled and tracked armored vehicles. In the context of this article, we are interested in the fact that this company specializes in the development of high-precision ammunition. “Technological innovation means that precision-guided munitions are developing rapidly. The capabilities that were once available only in large, deployment-difficult, and expensive guided missiles are currently available in much smaller systems and at a significantly lower cost. ”

Mortar shot MGM (Mortar Guided Munition) development Thales offers less than a meter accuracy due to laser semi-active homing, as well as an increased range. They can work on fixed and moving targets. “At the decisive moment, MGM gives modern armies breakthrough capabilities in artillery.”


Thales MGM mortar shot quickly gives you a decisive advantage


According to Signorelli, while the basic types of ammunition have not changed, their range has increased. This was achieved through the use of technologies such as gas outflow from the bottom and improved propelling agents, as well as improved active-jet and ballistic projectiles. Accuracy has also been enhanced not only by introducing high-precision guidance, but also by eliminating inaccuracies and manufacturing errors.

“I believe that we are starting to see the emergence of a new generation of these capabilities, where you have a combination of improved throwing agents and improved high-precision targeting, which reduces cost and increases accuracy. In combination with some long-range guns, these improvements give an even greater increase in range ",

- explained Signorelli.

A BAE Systems spokesman also noted that the entire industry is increasingly focusing on accuracy. “Our customers are looking for artillery shells that can adjust their trajectory after the shot in order to deliver high-precision strikes at a distance of more than 70 km and in conditions of a weak GPS signal. With improved guidance, calculations will be able to hit targets more effectively, at longer ranges, with fewer projectiles. High-precision strikes also reduce the level of indirect losses and the amount of fire support. "

BAE Systems is developing a PGK Precision Guidance Kit for the 2018-mm artillery shells for the US Army under a contract signed in January 155 of the year. They are designed to work even in the absence of a GPS signal, which the company considers today a key requirement.

“As the US Army is committed to deploying longer-range gun systems, the development of guidance technology should accelerate to meet these evolving needs. We are actively working on the development of sets of guidance that can ensure accuracy and at the same time meet the requirements of the army in terms of range and noise immunity. ”


After concluding the contract, company BAE stated that in-flight trajectory correction with the PGK-AJ system increases the effectiveness of the fire mission, allowing operators to more accurately fire at targets for longer periods of time, spending less ammunition, resulting in a reduction in logistic support. The company noted the need for such systems that would be adaptable and compatible with existing and experimental artillery systems and ammunition, including the family of self-propelled units M109 and towed howitzers type M777.

"We understand the importance of maintaining the accuracy of long-range artillery of the American army in relation to any enemy,

- A BAE Systems representative said at the time of signing the contract.
“Our kits will provide these capabilities for current and future 155-mm platforms designed for a significantly longer range. We were selected for this program due to the fact that we have extensive experience in precision guidance technology and are able to achieve high levels of design and production.


This is not for you to drive on the desert! Self-propelled artillery is once again becoming popular in the West

ATMOS 155-mm howitzer on truck chassis, created by Elbit


Principles of guidance


Northrop Grumman also develops high-precision pointing devices (PGK), after the purchase of Orbital ATK, the M1156 kit was included in its portfolio. It is capable of turning the 155-mm M795 and M549-1 X-guns into intelligent weapon. Northrop director Bernie Gruber of Northrop guided missiles said that "our PGK radically changed the artillery operations for the American army and very quickly became the preferred system to support combat operations."

He claims that with the GPS system, the PGK fuze has the same meaning in the US Army as the GPS-directed set of tail rudder Joint Direct Attack Munition in the country's Air Force.

Recently it was two years since Northrop began production of the M1156 for the army, today putting more than 23000 kits. According to Gruber, from the very beginning of the program there was a requirement to develop a device that would lead existing projectiles with a threshold value of circular probable deviation (CVT) of 30 meters, but the company reached an average QUO less than 10 meters and 99% reliability.

“At the same time, we know that the US military is eager to increase their capabilities in maintaining high-precision long-range fire. We have developed variants of our PGK technology to satisfy their wishes, ”he added.

Such work includes the development of a projectile with tail rudders that guide it to the target, a fuse in the nose, the “brains” of which, for example, control the guidance.

“Although this will require the design and qualification of a completely new projectile, here you can take advantage of the bottom gas generator or rocket booster to achieve the desired range, while relying on proven PGK technology to improve accuracy. One of the advantages of the projectile guided by the tail rudders is that it has a large dynamics, so it will have an increased range compared to a conventional projectile equipped with a PGK kit, while targeting the projectile with tail rudders increases its maneuverability by about seven times. "


Northrop is exploring other technologies. For example, a projectile with wings in the middle part, which control it on its way to a target, also allows it to plan, which increases the flight range. Other technologies could be used in this concept, for example, a rocket engine and blowing in the bottom. "We currently do not have a contract for the production of ammunition of this type, but we are actively working together with the US military to understand their requirements and work out a solution that satisfies both parties."

Smart shells


In the ammunition industry, Rheinmetall offers an SMArt155 touchscreen artillery projectile, which is supplied by GIWS, a joint venture with Diehl Defense. A re-launch of the production of this product was announced at the Eurosatory 2018 exhibition in Paris. The projectile meets the criteria established by the Convention on Cluster Munitions, and aims to minimize indirect losses. Each projectile is able to deal with fixed and mobile armored vehicles at large distances.

According to Rheinmetall, the projectile has a thin-walled carrier capsule that allows you to get the maximum volume for two autonomous intelligent attack elements. Multi-mode sensor system enhances their impact. "The combination of excellent capabilities for detecting and suppressing false targets, a large defeat zone, a high probability of defeat and excellent warhead characteristics ensures maximum mortality and destruction on the ground, effective neutralization of enemy armored vehicles," the company said.

According to the company, the firing tasks can be performed with a small number of projectiles in a very short time, which allows you to use the tactics of "fired and left" and at the same time significantly reduce the effectiveness of enemy counter-battery fire, and this is a critical factor in the protection of their forces. Excessive self-destruction is the main feature of the SMArt 155 projectile.
"If the target is not found in the zone of application of the striking element, then two independent mechanisms ensure that the projectile will self-destruct, which allows its forces to enter the zone with confidence."



Leonardo focused on boosting the M109 howitzer firepower


The company said:
“There is a goal, no target, the combat unit is triggered as soon as the striking element descends to a height of less than 20 meters with a parachute. If this function fails and the submarine lands intact, its warhead automatically detonates as soon as the battery charge drops below a certain level. This mode also closes possible malfunctions of sensors or electronics. ”


Schlob stressed that renewed interest in such ammunition is due to changes in the priorities of the Western military. “It was not so important in Afghanistan and Iraq, but now it has become more important for the Western armies and therefore the production of the SMArt projectile was resumed. German military buy new shells and update their old arsenal SMArt. Many other countries are also looking for a similar solution; now they see the point in its return to the market. ”

Schlob said that one of the key problems facing the army in the coming years is how to increase the proportion of high-precision fire while simultaneously increasing the range. High-precision guidance can be integrated into projectiles, but this will require large financial investments. Users and politicians, therefore, will have to determine not only what is necessary, but also what is acceptable.

In search of expansion


Leonardo is also a major player in the guided ammunition market with its Vulcano family, with an emphasis on 155-mm guided munitions for ground-based systems. The company believes that this area has great growth potential, in particular in the US Army; at the same time, the market of a number of European countries is also promising, as well as a broader global market.

In addition, Leonardo changes the gun on the M109 howitzer, replacing the existing gun part with a barrel length 39 gauges system with a barrel length 52 caliber. According to the company, the goal is to increase accuracy and increase the range, which involves the transition to longer-range controlled ammunition. Over the next decades, the company also plans to gradually increase the share of automation in artillery systems.

Signorelli believes that in the long run, increased accuracy will remain the dominant theme in the field of self-propelled artillery, although some users may still choose a lower cost and a greater volume of supplies. He believes that progress will make it possible to exert the same effect, but with a smaller number of projectiles of smaller caliber, while their range will only increase.

Concerning automation Signorelli remarked:
“Today, the capabilities of artillery systems are limited mainly by the crews that control them. We have achieved an increase in the rate of fire through automation. At the same time, automation is a lifeline for many countries in which there is a shortage of human resources capable of fully servicing artillery systems. Therefore, automation gives us certain advantages here. ”


According to Signorelli, as technology develops in the field of artillery systems, especially self-propelled platforms, not only tactics and doctrine will be revised, but also the types of combat missions in which artillery can be used. He explained:
“We began to discuss with customers from the army and fleet about the use of shells for barrel artillery in completely new tasks, for example, in the tasks of air defense and missile defense. As the technologies are developed, the synergy of many technical improvements will allow rethinking the use of artillery as a decisive military weapon.
Everything develops in a spiral - as you develop opportunities, you find new ways, new methods, tactics and methods of application, which then leads to the further development of technology. I think the flexibility inherent in artillery systems will allow them, most likely, to remain a center of development for a very long time. ”
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  1. +7
    27 June 2019 18: 05
    Great article. Thanks to the author for the time spent. hi
    1. +2
      27 June 2019 19: 12
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Great article. Thanks to the author for the time spent. hi

      Interestingly, it was the war in the Donbass that made the West rethink the role of artillery in modern warfare.
  2. -13
    27 June 2019 18: 06
    The West is talking ... (afraid, if that) and therefore collects all its equipment, albeit hard-boiled crying
  3. +1
    27 June 2019 18: 26
    Compact squeeze from advertising booklets and articles of the mentioned companies. The main idea is clearly expressed in the preface, and more simplified in the heading. Yes
  4. +2
    27 June 2019 19: 19
    I read with pleasure, the author has created a wonderful masterpiece, which, incidentally, is traditional for him.
  5. +1
    27 June 2019 19: 30
    Everything is developing in a spiral ... I think the flexibility inherent in artillery systems will most likely allow them to remain the center of development for a very long time. ”
    ...
    Until the spiral ends ... the "non-standard artilleryman" also thought that he was flexible and the center of the universe, until the "Cro-Magnon aviator" convinced him of this ..)
  6. -6
    27 June 2019 20: 21
    Some Yak-130 thread will throw PTABs with a semi-active laser head, all these "innovative" self-propelled guns just as much as they can load these "archaic" SVNs ..)
    1. +3
      28 June 2019 13: 27
      Quote: SSEDM
      Some thread YAK-130 will throw PTABs, with a semi-active laser head, all these "innovative" self-propelled guns

      She won’t even have time to take off.
    2. 0
      25 July 2019 17: 30
      Yak-130 is not a tenant in the presence of patrolling in the air, or even weak air defense. Say “Avenger,” covering art.
      It doesn’t work on you-wasy, cheaply and with little blood.
  7. +5
    27 June 2019 21: 18
    in the confrontation of air defense - aviation, in the frontline, it is not clear who will remain more intact and who ... it looks like they will not be able to fly freely.
    So, long-range artillery remains the only powerful firearm!
    Not obvious, but quite likely.
    1. -2
      28 June 2019 09: 36
      So, long-range artillery remains the only powerful firearm!
      Not obvious, but quite likely.
      ...
      Everything is obvious and probable. Moreover, there is only one thesis ... it is necessary and sufficient - aviation will always get an ACS, unlike the latter, after it has capitalized all ground-based air defense systems, except for nothing decisive MANPADS ... but even if this is not the case, ACS, in view of the "shorter hands "will never be able to resist the MLRS.
      1. +4
        28 June 2019 10: 14
        Everything develops, improves ...... if you exit the computer game, where aviation enthusiasts are "convinced" that they will always win !!! It turns out that no one anywhere has proven that aviation can defeat a serious, full-fledged air defense !!!
        The question is, we will consider the situation, a strong air force against the Papuans ...... then I'm not interested.
        PS The tendency, all serious world "players" are building, increasing military air defense! This is among other things. In many areas, it can become volatile oh how sweet it is.
        1. +2
          28 June 2019 13: 56
          On June 9, 1982, Israel launched an operation to gain air supremacy over the theater of operations, which was codenamed "Artsav-19" ("Artsav" in Hebrew - "Medvedka"). A day later, Syrian Defense Minister General Mustafa Tlas sullenly reported to President Hafez Assad: "The Syrian Air Force and Air Defense have been defeated, Soviet surface-to-air missiles turned out to be useless, in such conditions our army can no longer fight." And on the same day, a ceasefire agreement was signed between Syria and Israel. The Syrians withdrew from the fight, effectively giving the Israelis complete free hand in Lebanon ....
          1. +1
            28 June 2019 15: 42
            Not quite so. At first, Israel disabled almost ALL locators and guidance stations, and then ......!
            1. -1
              29 June 2019 15: 13
              They will also act against the S-400, for example ... first triangulation radars, then all other radars, and only then all PUs ... the latter if necessary ..
      2. +3
        28 June 2019 13: 20
        Quote: SSEDM
        Aviation will always get SPGs, unlike the last

        "Smartkamp". If the self-propelled guns were taught to shoot down flying projectiles, mines and RS, then airplanes for them will be one tooth.
        Nobody just needs it.

        Quote: SSEDM
        but even if this is not the case, the ACS, due to its shorter arm, will never be able to resist the MLRS.

        8))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
        Who is stronger, tiger or elephant?
        What do you need, a spoon or matches?
        Let's give up shooting, because artillery guns shoot further ..... 8)))))))))))
        1. 0
          28 June 2019 14: 27
          1. Mines, shells, rs-s ... it's all low summer game, and here ... a noble vulture hovering over the theater still ... inaccessible to artifacts .. (
          2.
          Let's give up shooting, because artillery guns shoot further
          ...
          It was already ... from guns on sparrows ...

          It’s a shame for me that everything turns out like that, but ... Natural Selection ... you can’t do anything ... ((
          LIVES, NEW PIECES A LIFE COMES TO,
          DON'T NEED, ROBERS, TO ARROW ABOUT ARTA ...
          1. +5
            28 June 2019 14: 34
            Quote: SSEDM
            1. Mines, shells, RS-s ... it's all low summer game

            Which at the moment almost no one can bring down.

            Quote: SSEDM
            Natural selection

            Fact: tanks began to "bury" at the end of the First World War. A hundred years have passed since then ...
            1. 0
              28 June 2019 15: 02
              1. Suppose that, in fact, no one but the art can shoot them down.
              But how will this help self-propelled guns survive in an unequal struggle with aviation ?? Just bearing in mind that the second can hollow the first to a victorious end, not in any way afraid of productive resistance, in view of its fundamentally inaccessibility in height .. ((
              1. +2
                28 June 2019 15: 15
                Quote: SSEDM
                But how will this help self-propelled guns survive in an unequal struggle with aviation ??

                Really unequal 8)))) Aviation simply has no chance. Their M&A will begin to destroy even at airfields

                Quote: SSEDM
                Just bearing in mind that the second can hammer the first

                How? Even if the enemy has no means of military air defense and aviation, can you imagine how much is needed to find and destroy at least one self-propelled guns? Fuel, resource, time ...
                But they do not stand and do nothing, they cause damage. Around the clock, regardless of the weather, with a microscopic reaction time, which is simply impossible for aviation.
                1. +1
                  28 June 2019 16: 19
                  What is the USSR air defense, this is a lot of things that work in one bundle, the systemic full-fledged air defense will not allow itself to be extinguished by anyone in any way, because this is the main, first frontier ..... so far no one has dared to check and will not dare in the future, until invent something unimaginable! or will not find the opportunity to "turn off" everything at once !!! but this is from the realm of fantasy or dirty politics / betrayal.
                  PS all examples from BV areas, i.e. deficiencies as the air defense itself, and the managers managing them .... have repeatedly expressed their opinion on the basis of personal experience and feedback from colleagues !!! An example is not worth a positive assessment, i.e. full pfe-eee !!!
                  1. -1
                    29 June 2019 15: 03
                    full-fledged air defense will not allow itself to be extinguished by anyone and nothing, because this is the main, first line ..... so far no one has ventured to check and will not risk in the future .....
                    ....... all examples from BV areas, i.e. deficiencies both the air defense itself and the managers managing them
                    .....
                    1. .. "the main first line" - well, this, you see, is not an argument in favor of its (line) inaccessibility, ... "no one took a chance and will not take a risk" too, as it were, from the realm of some "ideal", intangible ...
                    2. I’m only telling you exclusively about ... the existential potential and real capabilities of enemy aircraft to be removed from combat duty, of higher combat readiness, for example, the S-400 in the most inhuman, lethal way for him ... (
                    1. 0
                      29 June 2019 16: 10
                      Where has it been seen that complex C 400 walked by itself, alone? This is not an example for discussion, it's just a fantasy .... should we consider them? Then, for the sake of completeness, airplanes should have neither ground reconnaissance, nor target designation, nor support! Then I put on the complex !!! He’ll blow a couple of restless planes from the sky at a time!
                      If the planes have all the necessary support infrastructure, then around the battery (they do not "walk" one by one) C400 all support elements are available !!! Then there will be a confrontation between WHO and WHOM, with the result that has not yet been verified .... i.e. real conditions.
                      About the main milestone, in terms of potential, everything is there. They will not check .... but for political games around everything that is the country's defense capability, this is a heavy and muddy topic. I do not presume to judge.
                2. 0
                  29 June 2019 14: 29
                  ) Aviation simply has no chance. Their M&A will begin to destroy even at airfields
                  ..
                  That's right ... the Strategic Missile Forces will start right at the airfields (unless the enemy disperses the aircraft along highways and dirt pads) of other continents ..), but what does the self-propelled guns mean? ...
                  Even if the enemy has no means of military air defense and aviation, can you imagine how much is needed to find and destroy at least one self-propelled guns? Fuel, resource, time ...
                  ..
                  No one bothers with fuel, a resource in such cases, during wartime, but finds and destroys not one self-propelled guns, but several UAVs of the type ... A patrol with a dynamic ceiling of 7000 meters, a combat load of 159 kg. , the time of barrage is about 12 hours ... Of course, this is the case if the self-propelled guns still dare to spend time, fuel, other resources in order to drop the disguise somewhere to go there, shoot and hide again. .. the truth, it is not clear - where to shoot those self-propelled guns, where the enemy, reconnaissance is impossible with the complete domination of the opponent in the air over the theater of operations .. (
                  1. 0
                    29 June 2019 14: 50
                    Quote: SSEDM
                    Strategic Missile Forces

                    Strategic Rocket Forces is quite another.
                    RViA. Rocket troops and artillery. The longest arm is Iskander. The "shortest" - 82 mm mortar.

                    Quote: SSEDM
                    Fuel, a resource in such cases, in wartime, no one bothers,

                    Even as bothers. For example, in World War II, fuel was critical for Germany.

                    Quote: SSEDM
                    UAV type ... Watch

                    Even "Cornet" can land.

                    Quote: SSEDM
                    Of course, this is if the self-propelled guns still dare to spend time, fuel

                    They will not "waste fuel", they will destroy. Ground forces of the originals that abandoned artillery in favor of aviation. Everything will end, I repeat, with tanks at the airfields
  8. +3
    28 June 2019 02: 05
    Excerpt from the text cited in the article:
    One of the advantages of a projectile controlled by the tail rudders is that it has a large dynamics, so it will have an increased range compared to a conventional projectile equipped with a PGK kit, while guiding the projectile with tail rudders provides approximately seven times greater maneuverability».

    Definitely without uv. Comrade Lopatov is indispensable here. Dear you are our author, what does "increase the projectile maneuverability by 7 times" mean? Examples:
    1. Correction for 700 meters instead of 100 meters in flight;
    2. The ability to correct the trajectory 7 times instead of 1 time during the flight of the projectile;
    3. The effect of the aerodynamic elements of the projectile increased seven times; "wings".
    1. +1
      28 June 2019 13: 37
      Option number three.
      It’s just that the efficiency of the steering wheels of a normal UAS by default is higher than that of PGK.
      Accordingly, such a projectile can more quickly "select" the deviation of the projectile from the designated trajectory.

      As a result, what is indicated, i.e. Longer range. This is due to the fact that a guided projectile can fly along a non-ballistic, "stretched" trajectory. And the more efficient the rudders, the more it can be "stretched"
      1. 0
        28 June 2019 14: 02
        Thanks for clarifying. One cannot do without a specialist with experience in such matters.
  9. +2
    28 June 2019 06: 33
    At the expense of automation - that's right.
    The experience of the local war in South Ossetia showed that for more than ten minutes after the opening of fire, self-propelled guns and multiple launch rocket systems were not in position. The Georgians strictly fulfilled this condition, but one of our batteries suffered losses, lingering on the position for more than 15 minutes. Judging by such a quick reaction, the conflict involved American reconnaissance aircraft and satellites online, as well as American military automated control systems. One such machine, stuffed with American equipment, was captured by ours.
  10. 0
    28 June 2019 19: 26
    Quote: rocket757
    Everything develops, improves ...... if you exit the computer game, where aviation enthusiasts are "convinced" that they will always win !!! It turns out that no one anywhere has proven that aviation can defeat a serious, full-fledged air defense !!!
    The question is, we will consider the situation, a strong air force against the Papuans ...... then I'm not interested.
    PS The tendency, all serious world "players" are building, increasing military air defense! This is among other things. In many areas, it can become volatile oh how sweet it is.

    not so long ago I had a dispute over what conflicts, and who tore a worthy missile defense and air defense to shreds ...!? and what kind of airplanes zp are capable of this ?! when planning operations, they use the term "unacceptable losses," what are they willing to sacrifice and what is the percentage of these "unacceptable losses" ...? if not difficult, please comment.
    1. +1
      29 June 2019 16: 32
      What has been created, is now in operation, fully used by no one anywhere, has not been tested!
      At least some actions using elements of modern air defense systems take place on a warhead.
      Both Western and their potential opponents use local ones! And there are many questions to tactics, preparation and equipment.
      PETRIOTS missed Hussite missiles, in Syria, the users of our systems cannot fully resist the various tactical methods and means of attack of the Israelis ..... and more where?
      Any manufacturer of technology will find a reason to blame "users". Neither confirm nor deny.
      Therefore, I always indicate - not confirmed, not verified, not refuted.
      We have to be content with this ... however, it’s better than seeing it all in a serious conflict.
  11. -1
    29 June 2019 20: 00
    Quote: rocket757
    What has been created, is now in operation, fully used by no one anywhere, has not been tested!
    At least some actions using elements of modern air defense systems take place on a warhead.
    Both Western and their potential opponents use local ones! And there are many questions to tactics, preparation and equipment.
    PETRIOTS missed Hussite missiles, in Syria, the users of our systems cannot fully resist the various tactical methods and means of attack of the Israelis ..... and more where?
    Any manufacturer of technology will find a reason to blame "users". Neither confirm nor deny.
    Therefore, I always indicate - not confirmed, not verified, not refuted.
    We have to be content with this ... however, it’s better than seeing it all in a serious conflict.

    thank you ... I will copy for the answer (with your authorship)))), because the dialogue is not finished hanging ... the Russian-speaking Israeli, I love to argue with them, not very stupid guys ... recklessly feel
  12. 0
    16 August 2019 12: 50
    Strategists! If the artillery has good air cover, you can get it at a very expensive price. How much does one self-propelled guns, even the most sophisticated, and how much one even not very new attack aircraft costs. And the air defense systems for guarding military groups are all more perfect and long-range. Accuracy of hitting a missile 0,85, 0,9-XNUMX for our air defense systems is quite a common occurrence. And if the defense is properly layered, then you can only upgrade it by number. Which, by the way, was done by the Allies during the raids on Germany. It should be noted with a rather relative effect. Naturally, if the air is not covered, then for those who are sad on earth. So all types of weapons must be balanced.