"Six" of Europe. What and why was shown at Le Bourget

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What is NGF?


The International Aerospace Show Le Bourget-2019 kicked off on Monday in the suburbs of Paris. He became 53rd in a row. The importance of this event can hardly be overestimated. This is one of the largest aviation salons of the world, within the framework of which one can expect the conclusion of multi-billion dollar agreements that can predetermine the development of certain areas for many decades to come. The event is attended by 48 countries, including Russia, which, alas, has little to boast of in front of European "friends". For example, there will be only dummies from combat vehicles. This is not least due to the sanctions policy of the West.





However, even without “Sushchek” and “MiGs”, the aircraft cabin will be remembered, because on the very first day we were shown what many had been waiting for for many years. Namely - the appearance of a promising European fighter of a new generation of New Generation Fighter (NGF), which has become part of a large-scale defense program Future Combat Air System or FCAS.

It is sometimes also called the “system of systems”, since this program includes work in various directions and, ideally, should be the most significant defense program in stories EU.

Today, the main aspects of FCAS look something like this:

- Fighter new generation.
- Unmanned aerial vehicles (which, perhaps, will act as slaves).
- Satellite constellation.
- New aircraft weapons.
- New methods of control and management.

This is all relative, of course: specific plans may change more than once before the time when the NGF is supposed to be commissioned around the end of 2030. Now there are three active participants in the program for creating an aircraft: France, Germany and Spain that recently joined it. The leading role is played by the French company Dassault Aviation, and besides it, the responsibility lies with the engineers of the pan-European Airbus Defense and Space.

As previously announced, the new fighter will have to change Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon. As in the air forces of the European Union, and specifically in the French Navy. This is an important clarification, because at one time disputes over the concept of the fighter quarreled Britain, Germany and France, so the latter went its own way by building the aforementioned Rafale, which, as we know, also received the deck version.

What have we been shown?


A full-size model of the new aircraft gave much food for thought. Firstly, “minimalism” immediately caught my eye. Last year, the British, we recall, presented the model of their sixth generation fighter BAE Systems Tempest. And he was, to say the least, much better worked out in all respects and, in general, looked very impressive. The layout shown by Dassault Aviation most closely resembles one of the “airplanes” of a young model airplane group: it’s not quite clear why saving in such a serious matter.



Secondly (and this is perhaps more important), the appearance of the future combat aircraft changes not by days but by hours. We are talking about the evolution of the understanding of the European fighter, which, by the way, can predetermine the development of the entire military aviation of the world, as it was with the firstborn of the fifth generation in the face of F-22. The layout shown is very different from the concept of “Euro-testing”, shown in Airbus 2017, and more importantly, from the aircraft demonstrated by Dassault Aviation in 2018. If the aerodynamic layout of the latter resembled the scheme of the sixth generation American fighter concept F / A-XX, then in the case of the new layout, a connection with the YF-23 can be traced. We recall, he received an integrated aerodynamic scheme with a diamond-shaped mid-wing in the plan with cut-off tips and a V-shaped tail. If you pay attention to the shape of the air intakes, then there is a very clear connection with the F-35 and the Chinese J-20 and J-31. These solutions are designed to minimize such a key indicator for a modern fighter as a frontal (and not only) effective dispersion area (EPR). That is, roughly speaking, to make the aircraft as unobtrusive as possible while maintaining high flight performance.



You can also say with great confidence that the car will receive two engines and will be manned / optionally manned. This makes it related to other concepts of sixth generation fighters. Today it is already known that the French company Safran and the German MTU will jointly develop the engine of the new fighter.

Conceptual issues


A small amount of information and a strange presentation give rise to quite a fair question: do the Europeans themselves want a new fighter at all? After all, it cannot be excluded that the New Generation Fighter, and even BAE Systems Tempest, have become the reaction of the “Old World” to the Twitter activity of the current US President. And talk about "European defense sovereignty" will shatter along with the election of a new American leader who will more often think about his allies.

However, so far everything testifies in favor of the seriousness of the initiatives of the EU countries: it was impossible to imagine such activity several years ago, in principle. And until about the 2014, the Typhoon and F-35 seemed to be the main European fighters in the 2050.

Here you can “fantasize” for a long time, but it is better to give the floor to the Director General of Dassault Aviation, Eric Trapier, who presented the layout of the new fighter. “The progress we have achieved in the FCAS program over the past months is remarkable. It will form the most important military air program in Europe for the coming decades and will be a decisive step in building European sovereignty, ”said the head of Dassault Aviation.



It is worth going back a little and reminding that although the first information about the decision of France and Germany to conclude an agreement on the creation of a new “six” appeared more than a year ago, the actual start of work began later. The signing of an agreement on the start of the conceptual stage of research work within the framework of the new generation fighter program became known in early February. Now we are talking about a joint industrial proposal to the governments of France and Germany of the new machine. “I am very pleased with the level of trust and partnership that we created with Dassault already during the joint conceptual study, and now with the industrial proposal we are presented to both governments. The principles of our industrial cooperation include joint decision making, clear management tuning, transparent working methods, and general preparation and negotiation at this first stage of demonstrators training, ”said Dirk Hok, Chief Executive Officer of Airbus Defense and Space.

According to the previously reached agreement, this stage will take two years. In general, while the fate of the program seems to be cloudless. In this regard, we can recall the Permanent Structured Cooperation on Security and Defense (PESCO), signed by 23 countries of the EU back in 2017, as well as the common efforts of the ruling circles of France and Germany to create a united army of the European Union. No one says that NATO will become an unnecessary tool for Europe tomorrow, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to stop the uniting locomotive, despite the local successes of the ultra-right in the last election.
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  1. +1
    18 June 2019 05: 36
    a delta wing? .... mmm .... problems in the future with supersonic flights. And makes active maneuvering difficult
    1. +8
      18 June 2019 06: 25
      and he needs to actively maneuver? go want a little blood on foreign territory with completely suppressed enemy air defense
      1. +2
        18 June 2019 10: 55
        and you want a lot of blood and in the forehead in the center? A great concept that minimizes loss in technology and most importantly in people
        1. +9
          18 June 2019 14: 18
          Quote: Dangerous
          and you want a lot of blood and in the forehead in the center? A great concept that minimizes loss in technology and most importantly in people

          nonsense ... these are disposable first strike aircraft ... they are too high-tech and demanding on operating conditions, then they will fight on the 4th generation
          1. Cat
            0
            18 June 2019 14: 40
            nonsense ... these are disposable first strike aircraft ... they are too high-tech and demanding on operating conditions

            You contradict yourself. Why use a disposable technique? Missiles, bombs, etc. are still understandable, but not airplanes (manned)
            1. +2
              18 June 2019 14: 43
              Quote: Gato
              You contradict yourself. Why use a disposable technique? Missiles, bombs, etc. are still understandable, but not planes

              they will be able to make one or two flights, then there will be no opportunity to maintain them in good condition
              1. Cat
                0
                18 June 2019 14: 49
                they will be able to make one or two flights, then there will be no opportunity to maintain them in good condition

                Why? The military budget is also drawn up not with a kondachka. I was a little involved in this kitchen and, believe me, the Air Force is very expensive, very
        2. +9
          18 June 2019 22: 16
          and you want a lot of blood and in the forehead in the center? A great concept that minimizes loss in technology and most importantly in people

          I’m watching - Russia has presented new weapons (video) - and all the liberals amicably laughed at it - "showed cartoons." And here the Europeans just showed wooden models, there is not even a video - and everyone claps their tongue - "ya-ya, naturlich"
          1. +2
            19 June 2019 03: 55
            well, so the identity of Hazyain made a mock-up, not the crooked Putin))))))
    2. +4
      18 June 2019 07: 31
      the sixth generation is apparently not quite an airplane (or not an airplane at all)
      1. +7
        18 June 2019 07: 58
        novel66 (novel) Today, 07: 31
        the sixth generation is apparently not quite an airplane (or not an airplane at all)

        and what is it then? if this is an apparatus whose flight is carried out due to the aerodynamic method of creating lift, then this is an airplane. Rockets, airships and bricks falling from the roof have a different principle of movement in space. winked
        1. +3
          18 June 2019 08: 01
          well, if it is not designed for piloting
          optionally manned
          !!! and maneuvering
          perspective problems with supersonic flights. And makes active maneuvering difficult
          !!, then this is rather some kind of flying low-observable UAV platform for the use of weapons
        2. +1
          18 June 2019 16: 29
          Quote: Ka-52
          whose flight is carried out due to the aerodynamic method of creating lift, it is an airplane.

          helicopter does not use aerodynamics? wassat
          1. -3
            19 June 2019 07: 29
            helicopter does not use aerodynamics?

            Well, then we will now start dragging everything by the mustache, from helicopters to motor-doplanes, in which the wing also provides lift and there is thrust. Only you think that a motor-delta plane can fall into the category of "6th generation fighter"? laughing
            1. +1
              19 June 2019 15: 29
              Quote: Ka-52
              Well then, now we’ll start dragging everything by the mustache,

              Just someone drags a mustache (aerodynamics) wherever needed. All aircraft use aerodynamics, even a paper plane and a person launched by a pendal, differ in aircraft only in the method of using aerodynamic phenomena. And yes, most likely the 6th generation will not be an airplane in the current sense of the term. And in general, as for me, the 5th and 6th generations (both existing and voiced) are essentially the same 4th or more precisely 4.3.0 because they differ only in avionics and additional lotions. But truly the next generation it will be a kind of LA
              1) able to fly without overburning supersonic
              2) possessing super-low-altitude super-maneuverability for working out terrain
              3) capable of vertically taking off, landing and hovering
              All this will be due to fundamentally new engines and as a result of new contours
              1. +5
                19 June 2019 16: 50
                Quote: ProkletyiPirat
                But truly the next generation it will be a kind of LA
                1) able to fly without overburning supersonic ...

                It seems to me most of the above misconception.
                When a person envisions the future, he is always based on something already existing, familiar, material, and simply "makes" an already familiar object to do things unusual for him. For example self-tying laces (Back to the Future-2). And who, back in 1985, could have imagined that in 2019 the smartphone would become our everything? And "iron" will remain iron and will not learn to fly.
                So is LA. What new will be invented, I do not know, but based on the existing one - it seems to me that the "hardware" has reached its limit, new super engines are not expected, the planes will not fly tail-first, they will not fly around the terrain at a speed of 5 M ...
                I think the further development behind the Network-centric principle of maintaining a database. If you take the F-22 and F-35, then the F-22 is undoubtedly an outdated 5th generation, and the ever-criticized F-35 is a transitional model to the 6th, say without expensive, but absolutely unnecessary over-maneuverability, but it’s a sharpened not network-centric principle.
                1. +2
                  19 June 2019 20: 42
                  European prototypes and layouts - smooth development
                  American 5th generation. Europeans are trying to catch up
                  USA, Russia and China.
                2. 0
                  19 June 2019 22: 40
                  Quote: kit88
                  they will not fly and at a speed of 5 M around the relief ...

                  Of course, they will not fly, the laws of physics cannot be deceived, it is banal that the aircraft will not be able to maneuver at a low altitude, and at a higher altitude, although it is possible to work out the relief, it is pointless because it does not allow to hide from the radar. In general, I wrote "super-low-altitude" specifically for you to explain, this is working out the relief like a helicopter, at heights up to 15-20 m (below the level of the tops of the forest)
                  Quote: kit88
                  It seems to me that "hardware" has reached its limit, new super engines are not expected

                  That's exactly what "seems" ...
                  Quote: kit88
                  If you take the F-22 and F-35, then the F-22 is undoubtedly an outdated 5th generation, and the ever-criticized F-35 is a transitional model to the 6th, say without expensive, but absolutely unnecessary over-maneuverability, but it’s a sharpened not network-centric principle.

                  Network-centrism and the new generation of aircraft are two different things, both warm and green.
        3. +1
          19 June 2019 10: 58
          Quote: Ka-52
          Rockets, airships and bricks falling from the roof have a different principle of movement in space.

          The most advanced in brick, it’s naturally gravity! lol
    3. 0
      19 June 2019 12: 00
      Quote: Ka-52
      a delta wing? .... mmm .... problems in the future with supersonic flights. And makes active maneuvering difficult

      Maybe there will be an OVT, and judging by its size, it will be a fairly light aircraft with two engines. Bet on avionics and "budget" prices.
  2. +2
    18 June 2019 07: 12
    This is what I love ordering, so it is not necessary to comment on it ...
  3. 0
    18 June 2019 07: 57
    If we talk about the concept, then we are working on unmanned modes and on working in tandem with drones as followers. This concept has long been discussed on the sidelines as one of the qualities of the 6th generation. What we came to in the end, of course, we will find out in the future.
    Our transition to a new generation will be smooth.
  4. 0
    18 June 2019 08: 31
    This is normal! There will be a search for the concept of the future military aviation!
    The Yankees were the first to create something similar, with an application for the future ...
    Let the "penguin" still be raw, but all new, especially so advanced aircraft have gone through it !!!
    here you need to guess and move in the same direction or create your own, no less effective! Who can do it, of course, who can!
    1. +1
      18 June 2019 09: 59
      Let the "penguin" still be raw, but all new, especially so advanced aircraft have gone through it !!!

      Advanced information systems to integrate a fighter into a global control system - yes. But if we talk about the aircraft itself, then the penguin is nothing new, much less revolutionary.
      1. +1
        18 June 2019 10: 14
        Quote: Ka-52
        Advanced information systems to integrate a fighter into a global control system - yes.

        About that and speech! This is a real step in the aviation strategy.
        Quote: Ka-52
        if we talk about the aircraft itself,

        A cool air fighter, a dubious assessment, despite assurances that after the restrictions were lifted, he could become like the Yak - 3, which the Germans called "cool - believe" and were afraid of him for his maneuverability.
        That's why they call "penguin" .... in his native, comfortable environment for him, he is almost a "king" ??? Only where is the environment, comfortable for him ... to sneak up on the quiet and shoot from a distance, it is not obvious yet. In short, we'll take a look ... but some measures, just in case, must be taken.
  5. +1
    18 June 2019 09: 19
    The issues here are purely economic. and political:
    1. Will the US be able to split off one of the countries financing the fighter with its F-35S (or newer systems)?
    2. How long will the F-35 serve and how will it show itself?
    1. 0
      18 June 2019 11: 14
      You wanted to say modifications to the f35a, because the 35c is a deck aircraft.
      1. 0
        18 June 2019 11: 35
        Exactly
  6. +2
    18 June 2019 09: 35
    I have always been amazed at such a huge surface of new aircraft. If in the 40s they managed to shoot down planes 10-15 meters long with cannons and machine guns, then there is just a huge sailing ship. And the latest cockpit videos show that "dog fights" in the air are not excluded, and there are combat pilots who are able to land on the tail of a modern fighter.
    1. -1
      18 June 2019 09: 52
      I was always surprised by such a huge surface of new aircraft

      because it is the result of compromises. When they try to get both high load, speed, handling, aerodynamic quality, etc. Plus before, only the wing planes provided lift. Now the fuselage itself is connected to this.
      1. 0
        18 June 2019 10: 00
        And that is the argument. But what is the survivability of the resulting aircraft? After all, if minimal damage is enough for him to destroy the structure, then this is a one-time combat unit. Concorde had a small piece from the runway to make a tragedy, but here is a machine that they will definitely shoot at.
        1. 0
          18 June 2019 11: 13
          Ural-4320 (Konstantin) Today, 10: 00
          And that is the argument. But what is the survivability of the resulting aircraft? After all, if minimal damage is enough for him to destroy the structure, then this is a one-time combat unit. Concorde had a small piece from the runway to make a tragedy, but here is a machine that they will definitely shoot at.

          The loss of a fragment of the plane does not always lead to the destruction of the structure. Yes, there are difficulties with the controllability of the aircraft in the Euler angles (roll, pitch, yaw). Catastrophic problems often arise with the defeat of critical components: control, fuel system, engines.
          Concorde had a small piece from the runway

          EMNIP Concord ruined a piece of the plate from the reverse of a plane that had previously taken off. Which pierced him with a fuel tank in the wing plane. A developing fire destroyed control and the plane crashed. I think that this is more an accident than a pattern.
          1. 0
            18 June 2019 11: 54
            Maybe you are right. Hopefully breaking the tank on the Su-57 will not lead to such consequences. I think tanks are still designing.
          2. 0
            18 June 2019 15: 58
            Quote: Ka-52
            Concord ruined a piece of the plate from the reverse of a plane that had previously taken off. Which pierced him with a fuel tank in the wing plane.

            More precisely it will be: Concord ruined a piece of the plate from the reverse of a plane that had previously taken off. Which tore him the tire of the chassis wheel, and flying pieces of rubber pierced his fuel tank in the wing cavity ...
          3. 0
            18 June 2019 16: 48
            Quote: Ka-52
            EMNIP Concord ruined a piece of the plate from the reverse of a plane that had previously taken off. Which pierced him with a fuel tank in the wing plane. A developing fire destroyed control and the plane crashed.

            A piece of the plate did not pierce the tank but the tires of the Concord wheels. And already pieces of the tire pierced the tank
          4. 0
            9 August 2019 17: 03
            The plate cut the paint over, and a weighty piece of rubber detached from it at 300+ broke through the fuel tank.
    2. +3
      19 June 2019 23: 01
      "I was always amazed at such a huge surface of new aircraft" ////
      -----
      In World War II, skirmishes in aerial battles took place on
      distances of 400-600 m.
      In the 50-70s, missile "skirmishes" at distances of 2-5 km
      Since the 80s, medium-range missiles began to hit from 15-20 km.
      Now the medium-range missile can be reached at 50-80 km
      And there were never tested long-range explosive missiles -
      over 100 km.
      This is the answer to the "huge surface" of modern aircraft.
  7. +3
    18 June 2019 09: 41
    In Europe, populists rule now. With such authorities, creating a new generation of military aircraft will not work. Especially in cooperation with each other. Do not agree.
  8. -1
    18 June 2019 10: 32
    Why do they need stealth? Soon Russia will have radio photon radars ...
    1. 0
      19 June 2019 16: 37
      traffic cops with a pipe and a flasher - this is a ready-made radio photon radar, and even a mobile one.
  9. 0
    18 June 2019 10: 32
    But will it fly - will it? Or flies only in fantasies?
  10. -5
    18 June 2019 11: 08
    The 6th generation, according to estimates, will have to go to heights from 80 to 120 km, the ceiling ... the West will reach such values ​​by 2090. China and Russia by 2028 ...
  11. +2
    18 June 2019 11: 58
    I look at the new concept and don’t see why there is a new manned aircraft here and what it will do. So a new manned aircraft can beat the most invisible and the cheapest in the world ... because it will not.
  12. +2
    18 June 2019 12: 49
    Pancake. It was ours to put there a model of a flying saucer, with identification marks of the Russian vks. That they were ofigel. Let them then scratch their heads. Why, to troll like that.
  13. AB
    +1
    18 June 2019 13: 37
    Eeeee, but this is definitely an airplane, and not a boat with a water cannon? lol
  14. +6
    18 June 2019 14: 08
    "Russia, which, alas, has little to boast of before its European" friends. "For example, there will be only mock-ups of combat vehicles" and the same "Full-size mock-up of the new Dassault Aviation aircraft"))).
  15. 0
    18 June 2019 14: 11
    "It is sometimes also called the" system of systems "" - I remember the leclerc in the 90s, too, admired, they said this new, breakthrough, but time passed and everyone understood cheap advertising)
  16. +3
    18 June 2019 14: 27
    What kind of article? Advertise a new European perspective plane? One thing I remembered - Russia didn’t present anything but models (due to sanctions). So the sanctions work. True, the Europeans also presented the layout. What is the message of this article ???
  17. 0
    18 June 2019 14: 39
    Initially, they announced joint plans for the development of a new tank, now about a new generation fighter ... By the way, their joint plans are mostly fulfilled. Typhoon, Arian, Airbus ...
  18. 0
    18 June 2019 15: 33
    The decision is, indeed, more political than practical military. There is no doubt that the Europeans are able to create a fighter. What will happen is another question. In general, news from the category: "we will see."
  19. 0
    18 June 2019 15: 55
    For how many years, the Germans, French and Spaniards will actually develop and bring to mind it is known only in the heavenly office. A lot can happen during this time.
  20. 0
    18 June 2019 16: 25
    These things from Seri Blind said LOOK! Will do either Dassault, or (and most likely) Messerschmidt! And the cost? In general, if less than 200 million for 1 (?!) Piece, I am not me, but the Chinese Leader Xi Jing Ping!
  21. 0
    18 June 2019 20: 46
    "system of systems" sounds like Skynet. More fantasies for billions of dollars, and as a result, the semblance of the F-35
  22. 0
    18 June 2019 23: 40
    What did they show us? Plywood. And whether this plywood will be in metal is a question. Here and discuss here this plywood, which will be far, if any, in 2030.
    1. -2
      19 June 2019 01: 19
      Exhibition - How plywood did not fly over Paris)
  23. +1
    18 June 2019 23: 40
    Quote: Nikolay87
    "system of systems" sounds like Skynet. More fantasies for billions of dollars, and as a result, the semblance of the F-35

    Or maybe it won’t go any further than plywood.
  24. +1
    19 June 2019 09: 06
    oddly enough, there is no evolutionary movement, there is no fifth European generation, and then they immediately decided to cut down the sixth, and even manned. and the author has some kind of bright ideas about European military integration. You seriously do not believe that NOTA is a defensive alliance, it is a branch of the American military-industrial complex in Europe. who is this g .... homosexual ... m will allow to bite off such a kusman of money from the USA.
  25. 0
    19 June 2019 16: 35
    Quote: Ka-52
    future problems with supersonic flights

    and what are the problems of the supersonic triangle?
    Mig-21 pretty confidently squeezed out Mach 2.
  26. 0
    19 June 2019 20: 13
    And when will it be?....
  27. 0
    19 June 2019 21: 55
    Quote: NMDzAM
    And when will it be?....

    Somewhere in the mid 30s. If at all.
  28. 0
    24 June 2019 16: 29
    Let's look at a technique of a similar level, in this case, this and similar planes of a fairly close future at such an angle ... that will have the ability to physically change the profile of their outer surface, adjusting it to the current combat mission ... change wing geometry for example (we will not go to extremes of type from a triangle, a square, but from a square a tambourine). The technology is already there as a principle and shown by the BMW Vision Next 100 concern, well, just a gorgeous auto-prototype ... the very principle of the idea and its presentation. Work in the USA and Russia in terms of an adaptable wing surface is no longer just a rigid plane, but already something fundamentally different ... it resembles breathing in sections ...
    And the work of the same Germans on the concept of a universal chassis of the future at the level of a technical laboratory and a demonstration of the prototype of the product 1: 3 of the current layout. This is definitely not a frame with wheels, roughly speaking, but a rather flat closed self-sufficient (as a target) platform with wheels (there were three pairs) and which can bend and move ... it was very similar to the body of a crocodile with legs, instead of claws with full wheels ...
    From the above examples, the principle of moving away from the static surfaces of future technical devices in favor of its plasticity to specifically solve current problems in my understanding begins to be traced.
    This is all real.
  29. 0
    25 June 2019 19: 19
    First you need to define the concept of a 6th generation airplane. I'm rude because not a specialist - a 5th generation airplane is stealth, new radars and something else. And what about the 6th plane (except for the layout at the exhibition)? I suppose at least to go out into the near space, otherwise there will be only 5+ or 5 ++ as they like with 4 cars now