Non-Jewish IDF. How do Bedouins and Circassians serve in the Israeli army

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Today, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) is considered one of the most combat-ready in the world. Such a high efficiency is accompanied by a number of factors: both ideological motivation (and how else, when the country is surrounded by enemies?), And excellent weaponry, and a good level of training, and a humane attitude toward personnel, whether they are officers or privates.

In Israel, army service is indeed an honorable duty, even for girls. Of course, the overwhelming majority of the IDF servicemen are represented by ethnic Jews and their descendants - Israelis, repatriates and repatriated children.



But they are serving in the Israel Defense Forces and people of non-Jewish nationality, and this is not about the relatives of the Jews, but about the local residents. There are even whole non-Jewish units, which, nevertheless, have covered themselves with glory on the battlefields during the numerous Arab-Israeli wars of the twentieth century. Druzes, Circassians, Bedouins - these are the three main non-Jewish nationalities of Israel, professing Islam, but serving in the Israel Defense Forces and participating in all armed conflicts with neighboring Arab countries on the side of the Jewish state.

Friends - Friends of Israel


One of the most Israel-friendly minorities in the country (as well as neighboring Lebanon) is the Druze. It is rather not a people, but an ethno-confessional community, the identity of which is based on belonging to Druzism - an offshoot of Ismailism, one of the trends in Shiite Islam. In ethnic terms, the Druze are the same Arabs as their immediate neighbors, but centuries of closed life have turned them into a unique community with their own traditions, customs, and way of life.

Druzes clearly separate themselves from the rest of the Arab world. It’s impossible to become friends, they need to be born. Like other similar groups, for example, Yezidis, the Druze is the one whose both parents are Druze, and who have not departed from their traditional religion, Druzeism. Now there are more than 1,5 million Druze in the world, most of them live in Syria (about 900 thousand people), the second largest community is Lebanon (280 thousand people). More than 118 thousand Druze live in Israel.

Non-Jewish IDF. How do Bedouins and Circassians serve in the Israeli army


Back in 1928, when relations between Jews and Arabs escalated in Palestine, the Druze took the side of the former. They understood perfectly well that in a purely Arabic, Sunni state nothing good awaited them. The elders of the Druze allowed the Druze youth to enter the voluntary service in the formation of the Jewish militia - "Hagan". Therefore, when the State of Israel was created, the question of the service of the Druze in the Israeli army did not even stand. Druze volunteers served in the IDF from the very beginning of Israel’s existence, and in 1957, service in the Israeli army became compulsory for all Druze men who had reached 18 age and were eligible for military service for medical reasons.

At the end of the 1940s, at the initiative of the then Chief of the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces, General Igael Yadin, the Druze battalion was formed. However, in 1950, the authorities tried to disband him due to financial difficulties, but faced opposition from the military.



The battalion fighters took part in all the wars of Israel. From the beginning of the 1960-s, the Druze began to take on officer courses. Soon came the first officers - Druze. In 1985, the motorized infantry battalion was given the name “Herev”. Since that time, he is known as the “Herev” battalion or the Druze Battalion. It is here that the main part of the Druze recruits wants to serve, although, of course, not all are fit for health service in this elite part of the Israeli army.

“Herev” is a motorized infantry battalion, but its servicemen have airborne training. Among the officers of the battalion are not only Druze, but also Jews from the number of paratrooper officers. Quite a few soldiers of the Druze battalion died during various wars. One of the commanders of the battalion, Colonel Navi Marai (1954-1996), who had already served as the commander of the Katif brigade by the time of death, was among the dead. Navi Marai, drusen by nationality, served in the Israeli army from 18 years, from 1972, graduated from officer courses. In 1987-1989 years. He commanded the battalion "Herev".

In the battalion "Herev" began the service and the first drusen, who served in the Israeli army before the general's epaulettes. Major General Yousef Mishleb, in 2001-2003 who led the IDF Logistics Command, began serving as a private paratrooper in the Herev battalion, then rose to the rank of platoon and company commander, and in 1980-1982. was the battalion commander. Then Mishleb commanded the brigades, division, military district, making a dizzying career for a non-Jew in the Israel Defense Forces.

Now you will not surprise anyone with a druz - colonel or a brigadier general of the IDF. And the Druze serve mainly in combat units - in parachute units, in military intelligence, which is explained by their long military traditions, good physical training and, as a rule, good health. Thus, the Druze officers commanded such famous units of the Israeli army as the Edom and HaGalil divisions, the Givati, Golani, Qatif brigades and so on. In 2018, the friends of the brigadier general Rasan Alian, the former commander of the Golani brigade, was appointed chief of staff of the Central Military District of the IDF.

Bedouins - IDF desert rangers


Another isolated group of the Arab population of Israel that is in good relations with the Jews is the Bedouins. They have long been in conflict with the sedentary Arab population, but until the second half of the 1940s, they also raided Jewish settlements. The situation began to change when the Hagan began to crowd the Arabs. Impressed by the success of the Jews, the Bedouin elders changed their position. In 1946, the sheikh of the Al-Khaib Hussein Mohammed Ali Abu Yousef tribe sent 60 young men to the Hagani.



From the beginning of the 1950, the Bedouins volunteered to serve in the Israeli army, border troops, and police. The innate skills of desert rangers and guides make them indispensable during patrol and reconnaissance operations. However, sometimes the command still does not trust the Bedouins - this happens when the authorities conduct operations against the smugglers - representatives of the Bedouin tribes. After all, service is a service, and family ties for Bedouins are above all else. But as for wars and anti-terrorist operations, here the Bedouins have long recommended themselves from the best side.

В history The IDF and Israel are inscribed in gold letters in the name of Amos Yarkoni. In fact, his name was Abed Al-Majid Khader (1920-1991). Arab Bedouin, Khader in his youth joined the Arab formations, but then moved to the side of the "Hagan". In 1953, he became the first Bedouin to graduate from officer courses and receive an officer rank in the Israeli army.

In the 1959 year, Amos Yarkoni was injured and his right arm was amputated, but he continued to serve with a prosthesis, while still serving in combat units. In 1960, he commanded the Sayeret Shaked special forces, rose to lieutenant colonel in the Israeli army, and was governor of the central part of the Sinai Peninsula.

The Israeli army also has a special Bedouin unit - the 585 Battalion Gdud-Siyur Midbari, also known as the Gadsar Bedui battalion. This is the infantry formation of the Southern Military District, operatively subordinated to the Gaza division. The people of the battalion is also called the Bedouin Pathfinder Battalion. Its main task is to guard the borders of Israel and Egypt in the area of ​​the Sinai Peninsula, where battalion servicemen patrol and conduct operations against border intruders.



Currently, the Bedouin battalion is considered one of the most effective and efficient units. His soldiers wear purple berets. Service in the battalion is seen by many Bedouins as a springboard to building a successful career - no matter military or civil. By the way, in the battalion there are only three officers - Jews, the rest of the servicemen are represented exclusively by the Bedouins.

Caucasian Knights of the Promised Land


In the Middle East - in Syria, Lebanon and Israel is no exception - the Circassians call any immigrants from the North Caucasus, whether it be not only Circassians, but also Chechens, Ingushs, representatives of the Dagestan peoples. Impressive Circassian communities formed in Palestine in the 19th century, when it was part of the Ottoman Empire. Muhajirs settled here from the North Caucasus - those who did not want to swear allegiance to the Russian Empire. For almost two centuries of living in the Middle East, the Circassians have not lost their identity, but made a huge contribution to the political history of a number of countries.

Despite the fact that the Circassians are Sunni Muslims, they immediately established good relations with the Jewish population of Palestine. When a large-scale emigration to Palestine took place in the 1930s, the Circassians welcomed it, helped the Jews in every way, and from the very beginning took their side in Arab-Israeli conflicts. At the end of 1940, a separate cavalry squadron was formed from the Circassians of Kfar Kama and Rihania, which carried out the tasks of the Israeli command and participated in the War of Independence.

Perhaps the Circassians were motivated by elementary sympathy for the Jews as people who had returned to their own land and had begun the struggle for the creation of their own state against the superior forces of the Arabs. In any case, since the end of 1940, Israeli Circassians have never betrayed their state. Now many Circassians are serving in the Israel Defense Forces, in the border troops and the police, are promoted to officer ranks up to the colonel.

Like the Druze, Circassians are called into the Israel Defense Forces on a common basis. But the call, unlike the Jews, applies only to young men. However, often the Circassians voluntarily enter military service.

So, one of the most famous Israeli intelligence officers was Amina al-Mufti. She was born in the distant 1935 year in the territory of modern Jordan, in a rich Circassian family, received a medical education. And then there was a long service in the Mossad, work on the territory of Lebanon, failure and five years in prison. Only in 1980, the Israeli government managed to pull al-Mufti out of the dungeons. After rehabilitation in hospitals, the woman returned to the main occupation - she became a doctor.

Christians in the Israeli army


About a fifth of the non-Jewish IDF soldiers are Israeli Christians: Arabs, Greeks, Armenians. At one time, Israel provided serious assistance to Maronite Christians in southern Lebanon, and after the revitalization of the terrorist militants in the Middle East, Christians perceive Israel as their natural ally.

The bulk of the Christian military servicemen of the Israel Defense Forces are Arab Christians. They serve in various parts, including in combat. The priest of the Greek Orthodox Church in Nazareth, Gabriel Nadaf, created a public organization in 2012, agitating the Christian youth of Israel to serve in the IDF.

It should be noted that this is not an easy task, since many Christian Arabs in their time sympathized with the Palestinian movement. The Christian was, for example, the leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Georges Habbash. Therefore, with the involvement of Christians in the ranks of the Israeli army, things went even more complicated than with the involvement of Muslims: Druze, Circassian or Bedouin.
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  1. +16
    29 May 2019 05: 11
    The author has also forgotten Arab Muslims (non Bedouins) serving in Tsakhal. There are now too many. I personally know a few.
    1. +4
      29 May 2019 09: 59
      This morning I was talking with a Muslim, we are working together, his daughter was doing shirut leumi, i.e. alternative military service
    2. 0
      30 May 2019 17: 14
      Quote: professor
      The author has also forgotten Arab Muslims (non Bedouins) serving in Tsakhal. There are now too many. I personally know a few.

      I read the article about your army, comprehended it.
      Conclusion, I didn’t find anything new for myself. In the given facts of the Author, none of the adequate members of the Forum had any doubts about the IDF’s operational safety. I was surprised differently (I was visiting your country in a shaggy year). Absolutely free salad snacks in your cafes. This is about Haifa.
      Alcohol in the above cafe is indecently expensive.
      And of course I can’t mention the “massage” salons.
      And the IDF, out of competition, is true of the aborigines of the region.
      Of course, Regards!
  2. -13
    29 May 2019 05: 14
    The article, as I understand it, is intended to show the human face of the Israeli army, they say here we are, multicultural and civilized

    Sorry, as they say I do not believe
    1. +10
      29 May 2019 06: 17
      Graz-in their army, as in our Russian people serve! An article about people in the army, only about them, re-read again, understand. ..
      1. +5
        29 May 2019 09: 12
        Quote: Thrifty
        Graz-in their army, as in our Russian people serve!

        In Russia, there is no strict reference to the "Russian character of the state." On the contrary, sometimes they too emphasize its multi-ethnic and multi-confessional nature.
        Therefore, it is not surprising that everyone in the Russian army can equally serve without regard to nationality. Although this sometimes creates difficulties, what a sin to confess.

        In Israel there is a cruel attitude towards the "Jewish character of the state." Which creates problems.

        Segregation exists even after death. It is enough just to ask the famous people of the Tsakhal, "who is Private Yevgeny Tolochko." And why, despite all the scandals, the "law on equal burial" was never adopted
        1. +2
          29 May 2019 10: 40
          Quote: Spade
          Therefore, it is not surprising that everyone in the Russian army can equally serve without regard to nationality. Although this sometimes creates difficulties, what a sin to confess.

          "Can" or "serve" all? Have the Chechens already started to call up? Here everyone CAN serve. And Arabs and Buddhists and atheists. They can refuse only if the psychiatrist refuses. Other disabled people are not denied.
          1. +5
            29 May 2019 11: 02
            Quote: professor
            "Can" or "serve" all? Have the Chechens already started to call up?



            Except "... and you" have no other objections?
            1. +4
              29 May 2019 11: 26
              Quote: Spade
              Except "... and you" have no other objections?

              You want to say that from 1996-th to 2019-th did not call the Chechens? And now they are being called in both the Airborne Forces and the RSVN? This time.
              Isn't your call federal? Kadyrov himself called it clear, but how many Chechens went to serve in Russian Army, not Chechen? These are two.

              I objected to you in the past comments. Our Arabs are not denied the call.
              1. +2
                29 May 2019 11: 40
                Quote: professor
                Isn't your federal call? Kadyrov called for himself to understand this, but how many Chechens went to serve in the Russian army, and not the Chechen? These are two.

                Federal. However, Kadyrov does not lead all of Russia, therefore the Decree is only for Chechnya.
                This is fucking elementary !!!!!
                Respectively. in any Ryazan region, the relevant decree or decree issued by the Governor

                Quote: professor
                And now they are being called to both the Airborne Forces and the RSVN? This time.

                I do not know, I will not lie. But serving closer to home has always been considered preferable. I do not think that the average Chechen conscript is simply eager to feed the vile at a "point" somewhere in Chukotka.

                That's it, the discussion "and you" is over and let's move on to the discussion on the topic of the article?


                Quote: professor
                our Arabs are not denied a call.

                With segregation up to the military cemetery. Even there, the Israeli military is not equal.
                1. +1
                  30 May 2019 20: 05
                  Quote: Spade
                  Federal. However, Kadyrov does not lead all of Russia, therefore the Decree is only for Chechnya.
                  This is fucking elementary !!!!!
                  Respectively. in any Ryazan region, the relevant decree or decree issued by the Governor

                  Yah? And serve in the personal guard of the Ryazan governor? And then what does the sunflower sign? wink
                  http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/60179
                  ТText of the Decree:

                  Guided by the federal laws of 31 of May 1996, No. 61-FZ “On Defense” and of 28, March 1998, No. 53-Ф3, “On Military Duty and Military Service,” I decree:

                  1. To carry out from 1 April to 15 July 2019, the call-up for military service of citizens of the Russian Federation at the age from 18 to 27 years who are not in reserve and subject to in accordance with the Federal Law of March 28 1998 No. 53-Ф3 “On Military Duty and Military Service” (hereinafter - the Federal Law “On Military Duty and Military Service”) conscription, in the number of 135 LLC man
                  .


                  So why didn't they call the Chechens from 1996? Discriminatory on a national basis?

                  Quote: Spade
                  I do not know, I will not lie. But serving closer to home has always been considered preferable. I do not think that the average Chechen conscript is simply eager to feed the vile at a "point" somewhere in Chukotka.

                  That's it, the discussion "and you" is over and let's move on to the discussion on the topic of the article?

                  What is so? Do we not notice the log in our own eye? So they take Chechens into military units outside Chechnya? Do you trust the "red button? Do you have any Chechen combat pilots or Dudayev was the last one?"

                  Quote: Spade
                  With segregation up to the military cemetery. Even there, the Israeli military is not equal.

                  Segregation? In your manuals. Do you have any dead Chechen soldiers (are there any?), Father, burial service and are buried in the Orthodox cemetery? Not. Gulag. Segregation.

                  To summarize We do not deny the rights of Arabs or anyone else in the army service and do not restrict their rights. Not a single Muslim soldier, Tsakhal, was denied the right to be buried in a Muslim cemetery.

                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  Professor, you distort, from 1996 to 1999. in Chechnya, radical terrorists ruled. Do you want to call them? Then start with Gaza.

                  1. The citizens of Israel do not live in Gaza. Citizens of the Russian Federation live in Chechnya.
                  2. After 1999, why didn't they call?
              2. +7
                29 May 2019 12: 56
                Professor, you distort, from 1996 to 1999. in Chechnya, radical terrorists ruled. Do you want to call them? Then start with Gaza.
        2. +3
          29 May 2019 21: 15
          Lopatov. Actually, they also tried to observe a certain tolerance for representatives of other faiths in the RIA. Even the St. George Cross was in two versions: for Christians and Muslims. In the latter, instead of St. George, there was an image of the state coat of arms.
          Caucasians in the army served only as volunteers
    2. 0
      29 May 2019 06: 17
      It is your opinion.
      All emotions, but facts are stubborn things.
    3. 0
      30 May 2019 17: 16
      Quote: Graz
      article as I understand it is intended to show the human face of the Israeli army

      Your conclusion is not without meaning.
  3. +6
    29 May 2019 05: 15
    Thanks to the author for the informative article objectively reflecting the democratic character of the Israeli multinational society. People of various nationalities and faiths, while serving in the ranks of the IDF, associate their fate with the Jewish people and the Jewish state.
    A few words on the publication. During the War of Independence, the Druze did not fight on the side of the Jews, but kept neutrality. I will not go into details; they are probably known to the author. Moreover, this neutrality was the result of the negotiation process of the Jews with the leaders of the Druze community. The same can be said of Armenians and Bedouins. But the Circassians - for the most part - Adyghi, indeed, from the very first day of the war for Independence, they fought exclusively on the side of the Jews. And this at a time when the whole world was confident in the destruction of the newly born Jewish state. Reliable guys. drinks
    1. +2
      29 May 2019 07: 27
      Quote: Bukhalov
      Thanks to the author for the informative article objectively reflecting the democratic character of the Israeli multinational society.

      Yes, yes, yes, and the Knesset is full of non-Jews. tongue
      1. 0
        29 May 2019 18: 01
        It's irony? Or a statement that just corresponds to reality.
    2. +2
      29 May 2019 08: 56
      It is interesting, there are many Circassians in both Jordan and Syria ... and mostly the military. How did they not find a common language?
  4. +3
    29 May 2019 06: 11
    It turns out that Druze and Arabs can even occupy governor and general posts.
    But our multiculturalism is no worse! also, apparently, the Bedouin Jews do not hinder Yes
    1. -5
      29 May 2019 07: 40
      It turns out that Druze and Arabs can even occupy governor and general posts

      Among which nations there are no traitors, Arabs are no exception
  5. +4
    29 May 2019 06: 15
    Thanks to the author for the article! It is a pity that it is somewhat compressed, because he could write a more detailed review! But, all the same, and for such a thank you.
  6. 0
    29 May 2019 07: 32
    Thank! I didn’t know much.
  7. +8
    29 May 2019 08: 30
    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Quote: Bukhalov
    Thanks to the author for the informative article objectively reflecting the democratic character of the Israeli multinational society.

    Yes, yes, yes, and the Knesset is full of non-Jews. tongue

    Didn't you know? Arabs in Israel 1.5 million. In free and democratic elections in our country, they naturally vote for the Arabs. And no one bothers them. That is their right. The passing barrier is minimal: 3.25% of Arabs vote for the united Arab list and have their very significant Arab faction. Moreover, it is not quota and significant. As many Arab deputies pass as the votes cast for them. It is theoretically possible that the entire Knesset will consist of Israeli Arabs alone if they collect all Jewish votes in the elections. I never thought about your question. Nobody cares in Israel. But from my memory I can tell you the deputies of the Knesset of ethnic non-Jews: - Anastasia Michaeli, Julia Edelshtein is the father of an Orthodox priest in Russia, Ksenia Svetlova is one of the parents, I don’t remember who. Ariel Sharon's mother was an ethnic Russian, Rafael Eitan, who was generally an ethnic Russian. Surely there are ethnic representatives of other nationalities.
    These people have tied their lot with the Jewish people. In any Israeli documents, including passports, questionnaires, there is no nationality column. Unlike the USSR, where it was, the same fifth column. And it was the Jews who were called "invalids of the fifth column." It is only with those concerned like you that it is vitally important to find out who (directly according to the Aryan theory) has a Jewish grandfather. So you undertake to appoint Jews, people who have nothing to do with our ethnic group. Poroshenko for example. Recently Vladimir 5 publicly declared Gromyko and Suslov to be Jews. Khrych argued that the Russian soil scientist, ethnic Russian and anti-Semite Solzhenitsyn was an Orthodox Jew, etc., etc. As the Russian poet-nationalist Shiropaev wrote: "They all left, why are you itching to ....". drinks
    1. -4
      29 May 2019 13: 06
      Quote: Bukhalov
      Unlike the USSR, where it was, the same fifth column. And it was the Jews who were called "invalids of the fifth column."
      The USSR was the first Jewish state of the 20th century. It was created by Leiba Bronstein, Yevsey-Girsh Apfelbaum (Zinoviev), Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev) ... Well, V. Ulyanov with F. Dzerzhinsky, Yankel Aptekman (Sverdlov) and I.V. Dzhugashvili (dzhuga-shvili: the son of a Jew; but we love him not only for his origin) took part. Of the most affected "disabled of the 5th column", Lazar Kaganovich and L. Mehlis are known. And Naftali Frenkel, Lazar Kogan, Matvey Berman, Israel Pliner and others - they all got to the GULAG! And for the post of "Head of the GULAG of the NKVD of the USSR" !!!
      1. +2
        29 May 2019 13: 19
        Yes they were. Jews, Tatars, Rusichs. You are funny. I am Jewish. And the Russian father is from Abdulino, which is from the Samara province. Not worth it, otherwise I will continue ..
        ..
      2. +2
        29 May 2019 18: 02
        Quote: rusin
        I.V. Dzhugashvili (dzhuga-shvili: the son of a Jew

        Suddenly. It is strange that the Communist defenders are silent. Will they really tolerate this?
        1. 0
          30 May 2019 21: 42
          Beria was also a Jew by birth. So what? Being a Jew and considering yourself a Jew are two big differences.
  8. +3
    29 May 2019 09: 32
    But is there in the TSAHAL or other military formations separate units consisting of Russian Jews, who were Russian-speaking from the very beginning who emigrated during the times of the USSR and modern Russia?
    1. +6
      29 May 2019 10: 43
      [quote = Andrey VOV] But are there separate units in the IDF or other military units consisting of Russian Jews who originally spoke Russian during the Soviet era and modern Russia? [/ As far as I know, there was an attempt to form a Russian battalion from former Afghans and Chechens ( that is, participants in the database) but quickly covered up, and in my opinion there is no longer a friends battalion, they serve with everyone.
      1. +1
        29 May 2019 11: 55
        Why not?
        1. +1
          29 May 2019 18: 04
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Why not?

          Because these people were brought up in a different army tradition. This is very important in the military, so that everyone would fight according to the same army standard.
        2. +1
          29 May 2019 22: 14
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Why not?

          Created during the Arab uprising in the early 2000s on a contract basis. Guys were involved in the protection of settlements in Judea and Samaria. The uprising ended - so they were disbanded - no longer needed. At the same time, they made a unit of Chechen veteran snipers. They also quickly scattered in different parts, because they shot Arabs more than during the same period all Israeli aircraft. With the media pressure on Israel, this seemed to the IDF leadership unacceptable.
    2. +3
      29 May 2019 10: 44
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      But is there in the TSAHAL or other military formations separate units consisting of Russian Jews, who were Russian-speaking from the very beginning who emigrated during the times of the USSR and modern Russia?

      Yes. 80% of truck drivers are Russian speakers. They are attracted by the fact that at the expense of the army, you can make expensive rights and they do not think that the service of a truck driver or tractor is very heavy and not prestigious.
      1. +4
        29 May 2019 11: 24
        Well, who had experience in the cold near the Urals or around KAMAZ dancing, I think it's not so hard and even cars of a different level
      2. +3
        29 May 2019 13: 18
        [quote] [/ quote] my son is in the army now, the truck driver is hard, very often left without food, since on trips
      3. 0
        29 May 2019 20: 30
        Quote: professor
        Yes. 80% of truck drivers are Russian speakers. They are attracted by the fact that at the expense of the army, you can make expensive rights and they do not think that the service of a truck driver or tractor is very heavy and not prestigious.

        And what about training and obtaining rights is expensive? There’s no where to go. International seems to be a month for a foreigner. Or with a muzzle with a brick, the main thing is not to break. laughing For that, your local woodpeckers like ours from Shymkent or from the Caucasus. laughing How Italians gesticulate a lot. laughing
        1. +2
          30 May 2019 20: 09
          Quote: marshes
          And what about your training and obtaining rights expensive?

          Yes. A couple of thousand American rubles can work.
      4. 0
        29 May 2019 23: 01
        What did the soldiers from the “Netzah Yehud” and the soldiers of the Bedouin unit not share?
        They write the case before the massacre came. Two soldiers from Netzah Yehud needed medical attention.
  9. +2
    29 May 2019 12: 07
    Cool, but in Israel, in addition to local Christians, there are also Messianic Jews. These are those who recognize Jesus’s nomad as messiah.
    1. 0
      29 May 2019 12: 21
      And these, which are with paces, they do not serve in my opinion?
      1. +2
        29 May 2019 13: 00
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        And these, which are with paces, they do not serve in my opinion?

        They say they do not serve. But they pray for all of Israel and consider themselves at least that while they do this, Israel will. Many Israelis do not dare to verify this statement. in a scientific way. They prefer not to change anything from the fact that it already works. wassat
        1. +1
          29 May 2019 13: 09
          and what will happen to Israel if people with hair cuts are bald? Will Israel lose its strength as samson cut short by diloy? laughing
          1. 0
            31 May 2019 11: 06
            Quote: Graz
            and what will happen to Israel if people with hair cuts are bald? Will Israel lose its strength as samson cut short by diloy?

            This fascinated the Nazis in the ghetto. Do you like to be with them in the same car?
            I can write in a mirror what will happen if the pectoral cross is torn off the Christian. Wow how funny, just the top of the humor. Petrosyan will die of envy.
      2. +2
        29 May 2019 15: 18
        In equal terms. Some serve, others, in general, do not recognize Israel, others recognize the state, but do not want to serve. In Judaism, in general, it is full of all sorts of large and small currents, from reformist to ultra-Orthodox. And the orthodox in almost every place had their own Great Rebbe, who left his teachings and followers. Well, regarding service they have different positions. For the Russian Israelis, they are all the same with the pats, and they each other in hats, suits, etc. immediately distinguish.
      3. 0
        30 May 2019 17: 23
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        And these, which are with paces, they do not serve in my opinion?

        Orthodox Jews. As far as I know, they do not serve ?!
  10. +1
    29 May 2019 13: 15
    Quote: Graz
    and what will happen to Israel if people with hair cuts are bald? Will Israel lose its strength as samson cut short by diloy? laughing

    Stupid question and inappropriate smiley, as I see it.
    Something similar has already been done once.

    Nobody felt good about it. Even the "hairdressers".
    Leave all worshipers alone. Judge by the cases that you can touch.
  11. +4
    29 May 2019 15: 45
    Of course, there is a certain propaganda bias. And yet it was interesting to read the material. Thanks to the author for the article! good
    1. Lad
      +2
      29 May 2019 22: 51
      Have you seen many articles here without such a bias?
      1. 0
        30 May 2019 07: 48
        Unfortunately, now, there are not so few of them. The site is taking part in virtual actions to introduce one or another idea into the consciousness of its users, which is subsequently distributed by the latter already in the rest of the Russian-language network. wink
  12. 0
    29 May 2019 19: 08
    I heard that in the Israeli army there is the same assurance that there are soldiers and general officers. Uniforms, products, and everything else.
    Yes, and for service, fighting there are few awards, so there’s no one to surprise with a tunic with an iconostasis. In general, three or something.
    There are no gaps, there is really a people's army.
    1. +1
      29 May 2019 20: 07
      Quote: marshes
      I heard that in the Israeli army there is the same assurance that there are soldiers and general officers. Uniforms, products, and everything else.
      Yes, and for service, fighting there are few awards, so there’s no one to surprise with a tunic with an iconostasis. In general, three or something.

      Today the uniform of officers has become different from the uniform of soldiers. (Waste in vain but they did not ask me)
      and the rest, in principle, you heard correctly. the army of Israel is as close as possible to the name People’s.
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        29 May 2019 22: 29
        The infantry is no different - one and the same front and field from ordinary to general.
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          30 May 2019 06: 10
          Quote: velikayaroseya2019-01
          The infantry is no different - one and the same front and field from ordinary to general.


          is different.
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      30 May 2019 17: 28
      Quote: marshes
      I heard that in the Israeli army there is the same guarantee that soldiers and general officers.

      As far as I know, in the Wehrmacht on the eastern front, the boiler allowance of warheads was also common between officers and rank and file. I ask you not to draw and draw "principle" conclusions from my post. Sim I tried to state a simple statement of fact! And nothing personal - just business!
      Müller-Gillebrandt (in my opinion, the most detailed exposition and analysis of the Wehrmacht in WWII, including on the eastern front).
  13. +2
    29 May 2019 21: 27
    Thanks to the author for the young-well-known, and therefore interesting material about the IDF. Our site is called "Voennoye Obozreniye", but we have much less materials about interesting armies than about Ukraine.
    I think that for many of us it was news that Muslims serve in the Israeli army and high ranks
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    29 May 2019 22: 58
    23.05.2019
    jewish.ru
    On the basis of the IDF there was a massive fight of Bedouins with Jews
    Newsru.co.il, citing KAN-11, reports a mass brawl at a military base in southern Israel. It is clarified that a fight occurred between soldiers of the Bedouin battalion and the “Netzah Yehuda” battalion, in which Orthodox religious Jews serve.
  15. +1
    30 May 2019 18: 13
    lol lol and our tooooo