Ukrainian army: from past to future on clones?

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After the Soviet Union collapsed, independent Ukraine got one of the most numerous and combat-ready military units in the world. With modern weapons. At that time, the army was 700 thousand people. The structure of the Ukrainian army was three artillery, four tank, fourteen motorized rifle divisions, eight artillery brigades, nine air defense brigades and one special forces brigade. The armament consisted of more than 9000 tanks and more than 11 thousand armored vehicles. The security of the Ukrainian sky was ensured by about 1100 combat aircraft, as well as seven regimental formations of combat helicopters and a separate army air defense unit.





In addition, the Ukrainian troops were armed with high-range missiles (more than one hundred and seventy units), as well as Pioneer and Pioneer-UTTH rocket mobile complexes and strategic stationary complexes in the mines (RT-23 UTTH and UR-100H missiles). There were also 2600 tactical complexes P-300 (with a range of 300 km), "Point" and "Point-U" (with a range of 120 km). These complexes were capable of transporting nuclear warheads. To the existing weapons should be added even more 40 strategic Tu-160 bomber and Tu-25MS.

Thus, it can be argued that at the initial stage of the emergence of Ukraine as an independent state, it had one of the strongest armies in the world, able to protect the territory and population from possible threats.

Over the years of the existence of an independent Ukrainian state, its troops were constantly reformed with reference to the need to increase the level of combat effectiveness and adapt the number in accordance with the country's economic potential and modern military dangers. In the end, numerous reforms led to the fact that the Ukrainian state was not prepared for military confrontation. In other words, it is possible to speak not about reforming, but actually about the destruction of the Ukrainian troops.

Since its inception, Ukraine has remained a non-aligned state, going through the process of demilitarization, lowering the number of weapons and personnel. First, the government abandoned nuclear weapons, believing the assurances of the security and independence of the state given by the United States of America, Great Britain and Russia (Budapest Memorandum).

As for combat aviation, then in quantity and quality it is now significantly inferior to its direct adversary (according to the current Ukrainian military doctrine) - the Russian Federation. In the circumstances, the Ukrainian state can count on an air defense system, which until recently was considered one of the most effective in Europe (excluding air defense of the Russian Federation). Ukrainian troops are armed with “Chain mails” (radio intelligence stations), which are capable of detecting enemy targets on the ground, on water and in the air, created using stealth technologies. To cover the Ukrainian air borders, the Tunguska, Buk M, Igla, S-200 and S-300 air defense systems were used. Accordingly, a multi-level and fairly reliable protection was created. However, shortly before the events on the Maidan, the S-200 was withdrawn from service, as they were technically and morally obsolete. The most interesting thing is that they were not replaced by similar, but more powerful complexes.

If we talk about personnel, then for a long time there was a reduction. As of 2017 year, the number of Ukrainian armed forces was 70 thousand people.

In addition, in order to successfully defend the national interests of their state, military personnel must have decent material and financial support. Simply put, hungry soldiers who have no shelter pose a much greater danger to their corrupt leadership than to external opponents. And the prestige of military service in society leaves much to be desired. More than a third of servicemen expect housing improvements. True, at present they are trying to solve this problem by building hostels for non-family soldiers, but there are plenty of problems here, and the project’s end, which has been discussed so much, is not yet clear. And the salary of the Ukrainian military does not meet European standards. It should be noted that at present payments for military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are increasing, but they are almost imperceptible due to the constant increase in prices and the increase in utility tariffs.

Separately, we should talk about the military-industrial complex of Ukraine. At one time he was a significant part of the Soviet defense industry, but at present he is unable to provide his own army with armaments. Ukraine tried to export military equipment, which remained from Soviet times, but everything here is not so smooth.

In the state budget for 2018, the sum of 16 billion hryvnias for military needs and rearmament was laid. Of course, the military budget is very modest compared to world figures, but for Ukraine it is very tangible. For these funds, it was planned to purchase rocket and artillery systems, unmanned vehicles, armored boats, armored vehicles, etc. But it is quite logical to assume that it is simply unrealistic to make such a grand rearmament and fully equip the naval forces and the army with the amount put in the state budget.

However, insufficient financing is only one of the many problems of the domestic defense industry. No less important is another big problem - the inability to fulfill orders and the poor quality of the exported weapons.

So, in particular, we can recall the Ukrainian-Thai tank agreement, which was delayed for an impermissibly long period and around which a considerable scandal flared up. Until the end of 2017, only 36 from 49 ordered tanks of the Oplot series were delivered. But the contract for the transfer of equipment was signed in 2011 year. And the most interesting thing is that there are almost no Oplot tanks in service with the Ukrainian troops (the 1 tank does not count).

The military leadership claimed that in the real fighting conditions, Bulat tanks, designed by the national defense industry, were also ineffective due to the low-power engine and a sufficiently large weight. As a result, these combat vehicles were taken to the reserve, despite the fact that the troops managed to acquire several dozen tanks of this modification.

It should be remembered about another "new" - armored "Dozor-B", presented in 2004 year. When the armed conflict began in the south-east of the country, the government promised to supply two hundred armored vehicles to military units. As a result, only a few dozen vehicles entered service ...

After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine also got the center of military shipbuilding. Already during the period of independence, the Gyurza armored boat was designed in Nikolaev, and two samples were even purchased by Uzbekistan. But with supplies for his fleet somehow did not ask. Only 6 Gyurz-Ms are in service, of which 2 were detained by the Federal Border Guard Service and are located in the port of Kerch.

As for exports, things are not much better here. Over 2012-2016 years, Ukraine entered the ten largest suppliers weapons and military equipment. However, the government itself admits that this position was achieved thanks to sales of old military equipment - T-64, T-72, T-80 tanks, which were delivered in large quantities to East Asia, Africa.

Thus, this is not at all the potential of the Ukrainian defense industry, but the potential of Soviet military equipment, which has remained since former times. But in reality, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex produces only a few samples of equipment and weapons that can withstand competition in the external market.

Therefore, the Ukrainian defense industry follows the path of cloning weapons of the USSR period. There is a certain sense in this, since the Soviet equipment and weapons are quite effective, and you can do about the same thing, but taking into account advanced technologies.

Among the models of weapons that can be considered "clones" of Soviet technology, there is a KM-7,62 machine gun, which, by and large, repeats the PKM machine gun, but is more user-friendly and lighter.

Ukrainian military enterprises also mastered the production of the 30-mm 3ТМ-1 and АN 3ТМ-2 automatic cannon, which can be installed on the KBA-2 2А72 and 2А42 BMP-XM-117 guns) of the KBA-119 automatic guns-the-ZNUMX and NNXX 17 17 BMN-XNUMX BMN-XNUMX BMN-XNUMX automatic cannon. and AGS-XNUMX).

These are samples of successful copying. However, there are those that critics like to cite as evidence of the ineffectiveness and incapacity of the defense industry of Ukraine. This, in particular, 120-mm mortar M120-15 "Hammer", which was not only ineffective, but even dangerous (9 gaps were fixed, resulting in the death of 13 soldiers, and also 32 were injured). The causes of the tragedies were always called different, but in reality the mortar simply turned out to be unfinished in technical terms.

And more recently it became known about the next “replenishment” - the 73-millimeter anti-tank grenade launcher “Lancey”, which in its essence is analogous to the Soviet LNG-9. The characteristics of this sample are very good. Target range reaches 1300 meters. Estimated rate of fire - up to six shots per minute. And it weighs about 50 kg. Even with the tripod machine weighing 12 kg gun can be transferred by four fighters. The LNG-9 has become one of the most frequently used types of weapons used on the line of contact by motorized infantry units. And this, in turn, has caused rapid technical deterioration of mechanisms.

On the other hand, with the production of "Lanzei" there are many problems. First of all, we are talking about the trunk, with the production of which the Ukrainian military-industrial complex has great difficulties.

Thus, we can say that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex still has potential, and the production of analogues of Soviet weapons is just one of the stages of the transition to mass production of its own weapons.

What is the result? At the moment, Ukraine is in a state of war. The lack of stability in the political and military sphere, the presence of an armed conflict in the south-east of the country and the loss of individual territories necessitated major changes in ensuring national security. It should be said that in this direction individual steps are already being taken. So, in particular, the funding of the Ukrainian army is gradually increasing. For defense purposes, it is planned to allocate up to 5 percent of GDP, which is approximately 8 billion dollars. If you focus on European standards, this amount should grow to 10 billion dollars. But if you take into account the economic situation, the prospect of such financing is very remote. About half of these funds should be used to re-equip the troops with modern models of military equipment and weapons: military aircraft, electronic warfare and communications systems, air defense systems, control systems, high-precision weapons and fleet reinforcement. A significant part of these tasks is quite realistically provided by the Ukrainian military-industrial complex.

Proclaimed and recently enshrined in the Ukrainian constitution, the course on Euro-Atlantic integration also provides for the introduction of more than one thousand NATO standards, which, according to Ukrainian military experts, will help in the issue of interoperability of the Ukrainian army and the armed forces of NATO countries during joint operations and will give an opportunity to modernize troops. But it will take years of reform of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The experts also note that it is very important to raise the standard of living of the Ukrainian military: gradually increase salaries, solve housing problems, review the social protection package for combatants and their families. This is the only way to increase the prestige of military service.

And, perhaps, one of the primary tasks is the fight against corruption, which completely engulfed the Ukrainian defense sphere, as evidenced by the recent scandals in Ukroboronprom ...

Materials used:
http://www.dsnews.ua/politics/voyna-klonov-pochemu-ukrainskiy-vpk-massovo-kopiruet-oruzhie-31012019080000
https://lenta.ru/articles/2017/12/28/ukroboron/
https://112.ua/statji/vooruzhennye-sily-ukrainy-istoriya-razvala-i-perspektiva-vozrozhdeniya-156791.html
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  1. +8
    11 March 2019 05: 05
    At the moment, Ukraine is in a state of war.

    - Who are you fighting in the Donbass?
    - With the Russian army!
    - Why don’t you conquer Crimea back?
    - So there is the Russian army!
    1. +19
      11 March 2019 10: 21
      The author of the article is from Dnepropetrovsk. Earlier, when he wrote here until 2014, his articles were also illiterate, but quite friendly to Russia. Now this collection of liar tales of the ukroyezuite propaganda on VO looks rather strange. What kind of war is Ukraine waging and with whom? Typical sobbing over nuclear weapons, otherwise they would be banging all over Moscow now. Calm down already. Nobody has ratified the Budapest "memorandum". This is not a document. The elders decided that nuclear weapons should not proliferate and should not be in new countries. Everyone was ordered to give, and everything was given. Only now, after the termination of the Treaty of Friendship with Russia, no one at all guarantees the Ukrainian borders (since April).
      This place is generally enchanting.
      Quote: Valery Boval
      It is planned to allocate up to 5 percent of GDP for defense, which is approximately $ 8 billion. If you focus on European standards, then this amount should grow to 10 billion dollars.
      Europe spends not a quarter of its budget on ministries of defense, but one percent! GDP. Trump can't get them to spend two. Even by 2024 they do not promise. But Ukraine, in addition to this quarter of the budget for the Ministry of Defense, also spends on warriors from the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And there will be a lot more of them in the army. This is not counting the numerous independent fascist armed formations. And the author writes that Ukraine spends a little on a war with its own people - it needs more billions to make it "European".
      Was ukropropaganda able to reprogram an already quite adult person like that?
      1. 0
        12 March 2019 17: 23
        And thank God that the elders decided so. It would be nice to take the nuclear power plant from them. As I recall, there are 15 power units there, 2/3 of which run out of service, each time I hiccup nervously.
      2. 0
        12 March 2019 19: 19
        What state of war is the author talking about? This is a state of half-life, decay.
      3. +1
        15 March 2019 20: 40
        Quote: Nikolai S.
        Europe spends not one quarter of its budget on ministries of defense, but one percent! GDP.


        In Europe, more than one percent of GDP is spent on defense. Germany-1,2-1,3%, France-2,2-2,3%, Italy 1,7%, UK-1,8%. Something similar is observed in other European countries. According to the agreement, NATO defense spending should be equal to 2% of GDP.
  2. +2
    11 March 2019 07: 25
    Strange article .... I thought Kamenev wrote, but it turned out that one of the new authors. Templates about the shortcomings of the army of neighbors in the propaganda style. About them has long been known. Or the author writes that they would not forget?
    Then why the gentlemen from the "funeral team" do not mention BTR 3, BTR 4, "Varta", "Kozak 2m"? These are serial samples, and they are preparing to enter the assembly line "Neptune", "Alder", "Bogdan", there is a process of modernization of the Soviet legacy, including the Air Force and Air Defense ...
    And "gyurza" is not a tanker, but a boat.
  3. -3
    11 March 2019 07: 41
    The current government completely destroyed its army, and resold weapons.
    1. +2
      11 March 2019 15: 49
      Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      The current government completely destroyed its army, and resold weapons.

      Current power? Dear, you don’t know what, and most importantly don’t want to know about the APU and the changes that occur in them. And where do you ask climb?
      1. -2
        11 March 2019 15: 51
        And how do you know I know about the APU or not.
        1. 0
          11 March 2019 15: 53
          Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          And how do you know I know about the APU or not.

          It was enough to read your previous comment.
          1. 0
            11 March 2019 15: 57
            I see you are an expert on them so share them, tell us more professionally about them.
            1. 0
              11 March 2019 15: 59
              Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
              I see you are an expert on them so share them, tell us more professionally about them.

              Dear, do not worry, as far as necessary I do it. But you should be careful, especially with words and actions
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  4. +8
    11 March 2019 08: 16
    Sorry, but when you write on some topics, it would not hurt to better understand the issue.
    seven regimental formations of combat helicopters
    A regiment is a "unit" in army terminology, but a "compound" is already a division
    and a separate army air defense unit.
    A "unit" is a platoon, company, battalion ... let's just say, not the largest army structures.
    In addition, the Ukrainian forces were armed with high-range missiles (more than one hundred and seventy units), as well as Pioner and Pioneer-UTX missile mobile systems
    What nonsense? Where did the author get it from? RSD "Pioneer" by that time were DESTROYED, according to the INF Treaty
    40 strategic bomber Tu-160 and Tu-25MS.
    Opening, opening ... Well, Tu-160 I know, but what kind of Tu-25MS? The author, but at least a photo can ...
    I am more and more convinced of the author's "koekakery" ... negative
    From the beginning of its existence, Ukraine has remained a non-aligned state,
    Yeah ... and this did not prevent Kuchma from declaring that Ukraine is striving for closer cooperation with NATO and entering the "Partnership for Peace" program. Moreover, to send units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the combat zones of NATO troops ...
    At first, the government abandoned nuclear weapons, believing the assurances of security and independence of the state given by the United States of America, Great Britain and Russia (Budapest Memorandum).
    A penny, Ukraine is small, sho nuclear shbro keep?
  5. mvg
    +9
    11 March 2019 08: 31
    What did I just read? I understand the new author, but did the author even follow VO? This is the level of the school physical education teacher ... Figs with them, with these errors (Tu-25MS), I'm talking about the article as a whole ...
    PS: Give Damantsev and Kaptsov ... I want again battleships with missile weapons and Japanese supersonic anti-ship missiles ... Even Mr. Ryabov is an expert against this background.
    1. +7
      11 March 2019 09: 05
      Quote: mvg
      PS: Give Damantsev and Kaptsov ... I want again battleships with missile weapons and Japanese supersonic anti-ship missiles ... Even Mr. Ryabov is an expert against this background.

      Damantseva do not touch. He is the one and only. The second such VO will not stand.
  6. +5
    11 March 2019 11: 20
    Why publish here .... THIS .... ??? really, what is the point of this article?
    Even Damantsev’s whorls are even more interesting, albeit more boring .... and Samsonov’s matrix, you can even debate there .. and this ..... some sort of hat
  7. +3
    11 March 2019 13: 50
    Judging by the comments, the motto of the administration "Not a day without an article about Ukraine" does not resonate with the readers. Perhaps the reason for this reaction is the level of "writers" such as Kamenev, Apukhtin, Polonsky, now some kind of Boval has appeared. Is it really incomprehensible that the people, as they say, overeat of primitive propaganda. The disclosure of the myths created by the "exposers" themselves, the rituals around "tomorrow, Ukraine will freeze and disintegrate" and other "Ukrainian-propalism" does not arouse interest in the sane part of the audience. People want objective information, realities, so to speak, and not propaganda tales.
    1. +2
      11 March 2019 14: 34
      The minus is attributed to Boval himself. By the way, why not preface the publication with information about the authors, so that the people at least have an idea of ​​who writes and what this "writer" is.
  8. Urs
    +2
    11 March 2019 13: 51
    I wonder what kind of reaction the author was expecting when publishing this article.
    To regret or sympathize or be glad or ....... what.
    The mass of mistakes is purely professional and the rhetoric of the article itself causes only a bitter feeling of regret and a sarcastic smile.
    Completeness of your campaign propaganda delirium and whether an attack of some kind of psychotic illness.
    One pleases that all the same nonsense passes through awakening, and the disease is treated.
    I wish you a speedy recovery and enlightenment to the people of Ukraine.
  9. +3
    11 March 2019 14: 31
    Typical sobbing over nuclear weapons, otherwise they would be banging all over Moscow now. Calm down already. Nobody has ratified the Budapest "memorandum". This is not a document. The elders decided that nuclear weapons should not proliferate and should not be in new countries. Everyone was ordered to give, and everything was given.

    These sobs and mriyas are from the same tales about the three-hundred-year occupation of the poor ukroinushka by imperial Russia, about the bright European future, about the future panuvaniye, etc. As if the possession of nuclear weapons guaranteed her a well-fed and comfortable life and the approval of all, without exception, the population of the actions of the new Maidan authorities. And the Crimea, before holding a referendum, would have thought a hundred times, what if they are zhakhut. And Donetsk and Luhansk people would not go out to rallies against the Maidan and seize the administration, and those Odessans who came to the Kulikovo field would not have been burned and would have survived. And in general, all of Ukraine would have amicably swore allegiance to Bandera, learned the language, decommunized and joined NATO and the European Union. After all, Russia is to blame for all the troubles of Ukraine, and if there was an opportunity to threaten it with the use of nuclear weapons, then all the troubles of the ruins "would disappear like dew in the sun."
    But if indeed nuclear weapons had been left to Ukraine, the possession of the current maydaunas after 23 years of independence with its remnants, on the contrary, would have accelerated their fall and disappearance from the world map of the state of Ukraine, only with more serious consequences for its people.
  10. +1
    11 March 2019 19: 11
    Little article unintelligible. In general, everything is bad, but not quite. In some points, good, but not very. Well, about corruption in the ZSU and the military-industrial complex, one can speak only with the syllable of heroic epics - CORRUPTION. Everything and everywhere, from top to bottom.
  11. -1
    11 March 2019 20: 06
    Does “country U” still have not bandit formations, but an army? belay -funny.
  12. +2
    11 March 2019 21: 38
    The phrase already mentioned in the comments, but I still have a question for the author:
    In addition, the Ukrainian forces were armed with missiles high range (more than one hundred seventy units)

    What kind of rockets are they? And what does the term "high range" mean? How much will it be? 200 km, 300, 500, 1000? Or simply - to get from Kiev to the Kremlin?
  13. 0
    11 March 2019 23: 59
    What kind of nonsense have I read? Here's how to understand it? “The most interesting thing is that they have not been replaced with similar, but more powerful complexes.” And WHAT will they replace? For what!!!!! The author, do you even understand what you wrote? It can be seen that some kind of pan-head made this stuffing!
    1. 0
      12 March 2019 16: 46
      And here's another "First, the government gave up nuclear weapons," They refused, the mad dog itself gave up its teeth, yeah belay
  14. 0
    12 March 2019 13: 20
    The APU has developed greatly since 2014, but even now it is not able to fight with other countries, and it is not necessary) there is a lot of corruption and when you hear a lot about new weapons, but in fact, fighters still go with ak (I have nothing against Kalashnikov assault rifle, just back in 16-17 they said that they would be disposed of, and their place would be taken by the Israeli "tavor") I saw the tavor only a couple of times, and then at the Kiev police)))
  15. 0
    12 March 2019 16: 43
    Hail! Already at a dupe peche !! wassat wassat wassat
  16. 0
    14 May 2019 17: 37
    My knowledge of the Ukrainian army:
    2 downed civilian planes ......
    It's all.