Status and prospects of landing forces of the Russian Navy

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As part of the Russian naval fleet there are quite numerous landing forces, which include ships and boats of many projects. This component of the Navy is designed to deliver troops to the specified area and to ensure landing on a prepared or unprepared coast. The Russian shipbuilding industry builds various landing ships and boats and ensures the development of the surface fleet. However, the current state and prospects of the landing forces may be cause for concern.

According to open data, there are currently more than fifty amphibious ships and boats in the Russian Navy. Such combat units serve as part of all operational-strategic alliances and provide a solution to actual problems. In particular, amphibious ships in recent years are one of the main means of supplying Russian troops in Syria. In addition, landing forces provide the development of remote areas of the Arctic.




BDK "Ivan Gren" project 11711. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / mil.ru


List of ships

Last year, the newest large landing ship Ivan Gren, project 11711, was accepted into the naval forces. This year, it is expected that the second BDK of this project, Peter Morgunov, will be handed over to the customer. The ships of the project 11711 with a displacement of 5 thousand tons have a large landing deck, capable of accommodating up to 13 tanks, up to 36 armored combat vehicles or up to 300 paratroopers. The ship also carries two Ka-29 helicopters. Large-caliber machine guns of the AK-630M family are used to support the landing.

XDUMX-type BDKs were developed based on the Tapir 11711 project. Four ships of this type remain in service - the Saratov, Orsk, Nikolai Vilkov and Nikolai Filchenkov. 1171 ton ships can carry up to 4360 tanks or 20 armored personnel carriers. There are quotes on 45 people. Armament "Tapirov" depends on the modification. On ships of different series, A-300 Grad-M multiple rocket launcher systems, Strela or Igla anti-aircraft systems, as well as 215 and 25 caliber artillery systems are used.

The most massive BDK of the Russian Navy are the ships of the 775 project. From 28 built ships in the ranks are 16. Such BDKs with a full displacement of 4,4 thousand tons are capable of taking on board 10 medium tanks or 10-12 units of other armored vehicles, as well as 340 paratroopers. When landing, they support the installation of Grad-M and MANPADS, as well as AK-725 artillery mounts with 57 caliber mm or AK-176 with 76 mm caliber and anti-aircraft guns AK-630М.


Ship "Caesar Kunikov" pr. 775 / II, Black Sea Fleet. Photo of Wikimedia Commons


The unique representatives of the Russian landing forces are the small landing craft on the 12322 Zubr project. Unfortunately, only two such ships remained from a fairly large series in the ranks. The Bison is capable of carrying an 3 tank or up to 10 light armored vehicles. There are squads for 140 man landing. The cargo deck can be re-equipped to accommodate personnel and provide transportation to another 366 person. Ships of the 12322 Ave. carry a pair of A-22 “Fire” salvo systems and two AK-630 assault rifles. MANPADS are also available. The most important feature of the “Bison” is the presence of an air cushion, which allows it to reach speeds up to 60 nodes and reach the gentle sections of the coast.

The fleet also has almost three dozen landing craft of several projects. From the point of view of total numbers, they are the basis of the landing forces of the Russian Navy. More numerous boats should complement large ships and speed up the delivery of the landing force to the coast.

The oldest of the service carriers are amphibious boats of the 1176 "Shark", built since the beginning of the seventies. Now in the Navy 13 listed such boats. Her four continue to serve in other power structures. The Shark has a full displacement of just over 107 tons. It can take up to 50 tons of cargo — one tank, two light armored vehicles or two trucks, as well as 20 paratroopers. Own armament is missing.


Small landing ships pr 12322 "Bison". Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / mil.ru


Continue the service of 12 landing craft project 11770 "Serna". These boats have a full displacement of 105 tons and are capable of speeds up to 30 knots. High road performance is achieved through the use of so-called. air cavern under the bottom of the case. "Serna" takes on board the 45 tons of cargo. This can be a tank or a pair of combat vehicles or up to 92 man landing. There is no standard weapon, the troops have to rely only on their own weapon.

The development of the ideas of “Serna” was the 21820 “Dugong” project, which also uses the principle of the air cavern. To date, five new ships of the 21820 Ave. have been built. The boats have a displacement of 280 t and a carrying capacity of 140 t. They can transport 2 tanks or 4 infantry fighting vehicles or up to 90 people. Unlike its predecessors, the Dugong gets a pair of thumbnail installations with KPV machine guns, and also carries several MANPADS.

In the recent past, construction of high-speed landing craft of the 02510 / BK-16 avenue began. The fleet has already received at least three such boats. This technique is intended only for use by special forces and can not carry large loads. The cabin contains the 19 man, and the transport of large weapons or equipment is impossible. The landing force is supported by the fire of one large-caliber machine gun or an automatic grenade launcher, as well as by four PKM machine guns.


Landing craft D-70 Ave 1176 (Pacific Fleet). Wikimedia Commons Photos


In the past, a significant number of hovercraft were present as part of the landing force, but by now all of them have stopped their service and set out for disassembly. The last samples were transferred for recycling in the middle and in the second half of the two thousandth.

Fleet Forces

As already mentioned, landing ships and boats are part of all the fleets of the Russian Navy. The largest grouping of this kind has the Baltic Fleet - 15 units. As part of the Black Sea Fleet serves 11 amphibious ships and boats. The landing forces of the Northern and Pacific Fleet have 10 (according to other data, 9) and 9 combat units, respectively. The Caspian flotilla operates no more than 7 landing craft.

The landing forces of the Baltic Fleet include four BDKs of the 775 project - three units of the 775 / II Ave. and one ship of the 775 / III Ave. It is the Baltic Fleet that owns a pair of Zubr-type hovercraft. He also has three boats of 1176, 11770 and 21820 projects. Total, six ships and nine boats. This group has repeatedly confirmed its capabilities during the exercise. In addition, the ships of the Baltic Fleet are involved in the supply of the Syrian group.

On the Black Sea are three BDK project 1171 "Tapir." One of them, BDK-65 "Saratov", is currently under repair. There are also three ships project 775 / II; two of them continue to serve, and the Yamal BDK-67 is being renovated and modernized. There is one BDK project 775 / III - BDK-54 "Azov". Also, the Black Sea Fleet has two boats Ave 11770 "Serna" and one type "Shark". The exact status of the latter is unknown. According to some reports, this boat is awaiting write-off.


Boats project 11770 "Serna" Caspian Flotilla. Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / mil.ru


The basis of the landing forces of the Northern Fleet are four BDK project 775 / II, and only three continue to serve. The ship "Olenegorsky miner" until the end of this year will remain under repair. Since last year, the only BDK Ave 11711 has been serving in the Northern Fleet. The grouping of boats includes three units of the 1176 “Shark” project, as well as two new BC-16. The status of one of the boats of the type "Shark" is unknown. Perhaps it is placed in reserve or even written off. The Northern Fleet ensures the development of the Arctic grouping of the armed forces, and its BDK repeatedly delivered various cargoes to remote islands.

The Pacific Fleet has one large amphibious assault ship of the “Tapir” project - “Nikolay Vilkov”. Another two of his BDK built on pr. 775. Also there is a BDK "Peresvet" project 775 / III. There are five boats of three basic types: three “Sharks”, as well as one “Serna” and one “Dugong”. According to some reports, the boat D-70 pr 1176 in the foreseeable future will be decommissioned and disposed of due to physical obsolescence. According to other information, it has already been written off.

The Caspian flotilla as a whole is not distinguished by large numbers, and its landing forces are no exception. For the transportation and landing of paratroopers, it has only seven boats of three types. This is one boat of the 1176 Ave., as well as five units of the Serna type and one boat of the Dugong type. Larger landing ships in the Caspian flotilla are absent.


Landing craft "Michman Lermontov" pr. 21820 "Dugong". Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / mil.ru


Near future

In recent years, the Russian Ministry of Defense and the shipbuilding industry have been implementing State armaments programs, including the construction of ships and boats of various types. The existing programs planned for the near future propose the construction of a certain number of new combat units for the landing forces of the Navy. However, some plans are still not defined and are subject to change.

Already this year, shipbuilders should complete the testing of the newest large amphibious assault ship "Peter Morgunov" of the 11711 project. Until recently, it was claimed that the construction of the BDK Ave. 11711 would end there, but a few weeks ago new information appeared. In early December, the management of the United Shipbuilding Corporation told about plans to finalize an existing project. Then, according to the updated project, two or three new ships can be built. Whether a modernized project will be created, and when renewed ships may appear depends on the command and its views on the development of the fleet.

In the coming years, the laying of the first landing craft of the new series should take place. Last fall, plans were announced to revive the construction of hovercraft 12061 "Moray" project, or rather their upgraded version. The Ministry of Defense wants to get eight of these boats. According to the actual plans of last autumn, the construction should have started in 2021 at the Khabarovsk Shipbuilding Plant, however, the question of transferring the laying of the head boat to the 2019 was considered.


The landing boat on the airbag of the 12061 "Moray" project. Photo USC / aoosk.ru


According to various sources, in the foreseeable future, the fleet will receive a number of new high-speed landing craft Ave. 02510 / BK-16. In addition, similar power structures will receive similar equipment. Such boats are of interest not only for the Russian Navy.

Over the past few years, the possibility of building the first domestic universal amphibious ships has been discussed. In 2015, the industry proposed to the fleet a project with the working title “Surf”, which envisages the construction of a UDK with a displacement of 24 thousand tons with the possibility of transporting land and amphibious equipment, landing craft, and also helicopters. The maximum cargo deck capacity is defined in 45-50 armored vehicles; Kubrick can provide 500 paratroopers. The ship is proposed to equip with artillery and rocket armament. Also, the landing must support attack helicopters, taking off from the deck of the UDC.

Since 2015, officials have repeatedly spoken about the fundamental possibility of the future construction of a UDC of the type "Surf" or other similar combat units, but the real work in this direction has not yet begun. Terms of the possible start of construction are constantly shifting to the right. Apparently, the construction of the head "Surf" will begin no earlier than the first half of the twenties - provided that the Ministry of Defense still orders such a ship.

Actual questions

Currently, the Russian Navy has more than fifty amphibious ships and boats of a number of types. The existing combat units serve as part of all the main fleets, and their overwhelming majority continues to serve. Several ships and boats are still being repaired, and the status of a certain amount of equipment is unclear. Nevertheless, even without “doubtful” and repaired ships, the amphibious forces remain quite numerous and are fully capable of accomplishing the tasks assigned.


The layout of the universal landing ship of the type "Surf", 2015 g. Photo by Wikimedia Commons


It should be noted that, at present, the landing forces face significant problems and difficulties. First of all, the difficulties associated with the age of technology, as well as the expenditure of a resource when solving actual problems. Over the past decades, the Navy received only one large landing ship, the Ivan Gren. Older BDK began service no later than the beginning of the nineties. The situation in the field of amphibious boats is much better. In recent years, new boats of the Serna and Dugong projects have been built in substantial quantities. Their appearance allowed to write off some of the outdated technology.

The problem of the age of the BDK is aggravated by the fact that in recent years they have had to work actively, ensuring the solution of important problems. Since 2012, it is the large landing ships that are the basis of the so-called. Syrian express. For several years, they have been transporting military and civilian cargo from our country to Syria. Such support of a friendly state is of great political and humanitarian importance, but it leads to the development of the resource of ships - and without that is not the newest.

Industry is building new ships and boats, but its pace may not be sufficient to produce the desired results. Shipyards are loaded with more priority orders: while the Ministry of Defense prefers well-armed multi-purpose warships, while landing forces have a lower priority. In addition, the financial capabilities of the military are not limitless. All this reduces the rate of renewal of the material part, which, in combination with other relevant factors, does not contribute to the speedy rearmament and development of landing forces.

Nevertheless, it must be admitted that in recent years the situation has been changing for the better. The construction of new ships and boats of all major classes, including those capable of transporting and disembarking troops. Also, the development of completely new projects is being carried out, on which new ships will be built in the future. Thus, the current state of the Russian Navy amphibious forces can hardly be called ideal, but there are grounds for cautious optimism. With timely and full implementation of various plans, the fleet will be able to maintain the required amphibious potential, and then multiply it. However, this will have to make a lot of effort and spend a lot of time.

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  1. 0
    30 January 2019 09: 15
    oh, how the Mistral is missing ...
  2. -12
    30 January 2019 09: 24
    Any unnecessary UDC does not even need to be designed, meaningless and vulnerable ship = mass grave. The number of BDKs can be reduced quite a bit too vulnerable, not suitable for every coast. No need to build them in the next 20 years until the total number is reduced to 8 pennants, four per ocean. However, it is possible to lend a series of boats and small ships in an air cavity for the sea areas of Russia, capable of quickly and quietly moving for a quick landing, moving through GDP between the seas.
    1. +9
      30 January 2019 09: 26
      and for the Syrian express it is necessary to use bulk carriers
    2. -1
      30 January 2019 19: 17
      Almost totally agree! UDC is not needed yet. I don’t even understand why Mistral bought ....
      1. 0
        11 February 2019 20: 31
        Mistral is a cut of the budget of the Russian Federation, a third of the debt should have been received by the French under the guise of training a team that cost almost a third of the contract, apparently our sailors do not know how to fix it? A third of our bureaucrats under the guise of logistics services, could the transition from France to St. Petersburg really cost as much as a third of the contract? A typical cut, I brought them to clean water and Admiral Vysotsky at the mention of Misral began to run to the toilet, and Borisov was accused of signing a contract without authority .... the French are generally prone to kickbacks and bribery after the death of a single cap in Korea, they began research and convicted the French of bribery, France even paid compensation to Korea for the overpriced supply of marine equipment.
    3. 0
      30 January 2019 21: 20
      I am embarrassed to ask, here and now (Syrian express) UDC like Mistral is not needed ??? Visible and vulnerable?
      1. -2
        31 January 2019 08: 47
        Misral is certainly not needed, dry cargo vessels are intended for sea transportation, and landing ships for landing, all the more so because the UDK costs like 20 dry cargo ships of the same displacement
    4. 0
      1 February 2019 08: 12
      And under what number of troops we need boats, and Vladimir? laughing
      1. 0
        11 February 2019 20: 23
        this is a military secret ..... I think that the General Staff of the Navy will determine the needs taking into account the retirement of the BDK in the seas by age, and the transfer of the remaining BDK to the oceans
        1. -1
          11 February 2019 20: 29
          So you admit that this is not your business?

          Well, why do we need marines? Let's get to the question from this end.
          1. 0
            11 February 2019 23: 07
            I already wrote a few below why the Marine Corps is needed .... for local strikes near the front line
      2. 0
        11 February 2019 20: 41
        I think one BDK is replaced by 4-5 Dugongs
  3. +25
    30 January 2019 10: 37
    Nevertheless, one cannot but admit that in recent years the situation has been changing for the better.

    I’m wondering in what place it is changing for the better. We are now completing the 19 BDK resource, already 2 has been built to replace (if we consider the second Grena built) and no new ones are being laid. Is it that we replace ocean-going ships with boats like Cerna at the rate of almost one to one?
    1. +6
      30 January 2019 11: 38
      Plus Gren kosyachny ship, from the layout to the contours.
      1. 0
        11 February 2019 23: 13
        in more detail, Alexander, I even wondered what there was such a jamb? Are you smarter than a whole KB ....? And most importantly the contours .... the contours are to blame, is it square or what?
    2. +3
      30 January 2019 12: 10
      Russia will lay six aircraft carriers - "we have already started to cut metal" - Klintsevich laughing they know how to cut a budget
    3. 0
      30 January 2019 12: 51
      Andrei, you know yourself with the surface fleet, the construction is behind the plans And the company in Syria showed how much
    4. -3
      30 January 2019 21: 23
      Well, give money and working capacities, organize the supply of spare parts (especially power plants) and everything will be fine right away. For 30 years no one has been involved in the fleet. Now they are trying to do something, but as always, you need everything at once. it doesn’t happen that way.
      1. 0
        30 January 2019 22: 06
        And money and power can replace curvature and meagerness ?? And not only in industry ... There is still a clear project is needed, under a clear t.z. But with this, it’s not that sad, but just drowning ......
      2. +4
        31 January 2019 00: 03
        Quote: Saboteur
        30 years no one was engaged in the fleet. Now trying to do something

        Victor, well, don’t you, huh :))) In the 90's, the fleet was commissioned with the 8 (EIGHT) submarine of the 971 project Pike-B. Another 2 in the 2000's (including the alien seal for us) The Hindus built a new aircraft carrier in the building of Baku. In the 1998 TARKR Peter the Great was introduced. In 1999-2006, four esma of the 956 project were transmitted to the Chinese.
        This is me, on a large scale, and if all sorts of frigates and other DEPLs are recalled ...
      3. +1
        1 February 2019 13: 34
        Quote: Saboteur
        (Victor) January 30, 2019 21:23 p.m.
        Well, give money and working capacities, organize the supply of spare parts (especially power plants) and everything will be fine right away. For 30 years no one has been involved in the fleet. Now they are trying to do something, but as always, you need everything at once. it doesn’t happen that way.

        I didn’t do it, but did it haphazardly, anyhow. This continues in principle. As for money and working capacities, everything is enough here and the only question is how to use all this most rationally. For example: under the pretext of updating the capabilities of the Pacific Fleet's PLO, the Navy can order 5 units. corvettes 20380 by 17, ... (with kopecks) billion, Amur shipyard, which will not build them very quickly. Corvettes that have means of detecting enemy submarines, but in fact do not have sufficiently effective means of dealing with them, and thus it is fun to spend more than 85 billion. But you can order the Zelenodolsk plant a series of 8 units. corvettes 11661-K (E), which he builds much faster, as for example for Vietnam (especially since he has the Kerch "Zaliv" in his lease, that is, in fact, he can lay 4 units in parallel at two plants at once !!). The amount of such an order will be almost equal to the amount of the first of the options, if not less (at the Amur Shipyard), but the fleet will no longer receive 5 but 8 units. corvettes to provide PLO - this time. All of them are better balanced for these functions and cheaper than 20380 are two. And at this time, the capacity of the Amur plant can be more rationally used, and it will be possible to load with an order for the construction of the same Pacific Fleet, from 2 to 4 new MCSNS pr. 971 M (which were built there rather quickly) !!
    5. 0
      1 February 2019 00: 30
      Andrey, what are you feel According to all the news, they are only talking about our invincible fleet, ready to repulse any enemy.
    6. 0
      11 February 2019 23: 17
      Here’s Andrey, how to criticize the Russian Navy, but what about nothing changing for the better .....
  4. +11
    30 January 2019 11: 32
    The article is not about anything ... empty, general phrases, listing no real state, not even more perspectives. If you do not count the "Surf" drawing, of course, but we must take into account that the freak Gren in 5 tons was built for 14 years, it will be more realistic to discuss a flight to Mars than its construction.
    1. +1
      1 February 2019 08: 12
      This is not Surf this is an avalanche, a completely different project.
  5. +6
    30 January 2019 12: 11
    Reasoning about ships, without a description of the goals and objectives of the landing forces, is meaningless.))
    1. +3
      30 January 2019 15: 27
      Quote: Nestorych
      Reasoning about ships, without a description of the goals and objectives of the landing forces, is meaningless.))

      Our marine corps is more likely to be regarded as coastal defense troops.
      1. +2
        30 January 2019 21: 28
        which personally annoys me very much. When I become a Minister, I will put the Marine Corps on a par with the Airborne Forces. For it should be so. The coastal forces should be ordinary motorized riflemen with the subordination of the Navy. For when defending the coast, the functions of motorized rifles from the marines are no different. But their weapons and equipment are more powerful than those of the marines.
        Marines are first and foremost a landing! This is sabotage! This is a bridgehead capture!
        1. +1
          30 January 2019 22: 30
          Quote: Saboteur
          The coastal forces should be ordinary motorized riflemen with the subordination of the Navy.

          They are there too.
          Quote: Saboteur
          For when defending the coast, the functions of motorized rifles from the marines are no different.

          Opportunities differ. Offensive actions are also being conducted on the defensive; it is valuable to land troops behind the back of an advancing enemy.
          Quote: Saboteur
          I’ll put the Marine Corps on a par with the Airborne

          All 15000 people (or their lope there)? This is really very little. We have no one to defend the coast, especially in the Far East.
          Quote: Saboteur
          But their weapons and equipment are more powerful than those of the marines.

          Judging by the latest news, they will soon be equal in equipment, and they are given tanks and artillery.
          1. 0
            8 February 2019 11: 12
            Marine Corps, I think there should be 9 brigades and 1 training regiment (plus auxiliary forces)
      2. 0
        31 January 2019 13: 33
        Very robust stuff.
  6. +4
    30 January 2019 12: 53
    the newest large landing ship "Ivan Gren"
    - where is it newest? construction for twenty years (I am already silent that it was made on the basis of "Tapir"), new - yes, but not the latest ... hi
  7. +1
    30 January 2019 13: 36
    Not a word has been said about the new naval assault vehicle. The parameters were discussed: a speed of 37, it seems, km / h with a gas turbine power of 1250 hp, which, in my opinion, is not enough. Because not only the landing range is needed, but also speed. It is necessary to raise the speed to the same values, but in knots due to the jet engine, as on the Raptor.
  8. +5
    30 January 2019 13: 38
    About the large landing craft "Gren" - 2 Ka-29 helicopters - minuscule! This is only for the evacuation of the wounded, and even the RDG to land ... Where are the fire support helicopters, such as the Ka-52 ??? And AK-630, as a means of fire support for the landing ??? The naval commanders really think that a "Macedonian phalanx" will come out to meet the landing party ??? And against the trenches, not to mention the bunkers and bunkers - these are pukalki.
    1. +9
      30 January 2019 15: 50
      1. Abroad (in the USA in particular), the over-the-horizon landing command prevails. For this purpose, they have a bunch of helicopters, high-speed landing boats and other landing gear at the UDC and the DVKD. For such a scheme, UDC is needed. We have all the ships designed to land equipment and personnel on an unequipped coast directly through the ramp. This is possible after the complete suppression of the enemy’s defense by the fleet and aircraft. I see no reason whatsoever to arm the landing ships other than as ZRAKami for air defense when crossing the sea. In addition, all of our BDKs are designed for short transitions. Who doubts, look at the landing cubicle on the BDK of project 775. It is impossible to exist there for more than 3 days with all the endurance and unpretentiousness of a Russian warrior. 2. If the Navy will be tasked with landing large units at the other end of the world, then UDC is necessary. Because in addition to comfortable conditions for the landing, a larger capacity, it also means overseas landing, the presence of a hospital, command post (operation headquarters). All this is wanted, all this is needed, but point 3 .... 3. The task of landing on a remote theater is possible only if there are aircraft carriers, since landing without an air cover seems to me a suicidal venture. We conclude that before the construction of aircraft carriers, there will be no expeditionary forces in Russia, therefore, the UDC and the DVKD are not of great displacement. Modern means of landing of the Russian Navy are intended for landing small (up to the Marine Corps) assault forces in the rear and flank of the enemy in the area of ​​their own aviation. Since the landing forces of the fleet (in all fleets, with the exception of the Pacific Fleet) are capable of transporting almost the entire personnel of the marine corps, they are capable of fulfilling their mission. Now we are talking about updating the ship’s composition, strengthening the Pacific Fleet’s landing forces. We still have wet dreams about building UDC.
      1. +6
        30 January 2019 16: 33
        So the article was called -condition and prospects. The condition is understandable, rather dead than alive, and we have prospects in 2019. but we think in terms of the Second World War (and not Normandy and Iwo Jima but Kerch and small land). Therefore, gren and dugongs are what the hell the prospect is.
        https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3507684.html в- В состав ВМС Индонезии введен шестой десантный вертолетный корабль-док.
        1. +3
          30 January 2019 21: 00
          Quote: curio
          The Indonesian Navy introduced the sixth landing helicopter dock ship.

          That would have ordered a couple of such docks in Indonesia. And cheap and cheerful.
      2. +2
        30 January 2019 20: 01
        Ah Beregovichok, I agree with you somewhere, but I think for our Navy ships of the Tarav type will be redundant, by and large there is nothing special to land, and most importantly we have nothing to cover the landing
        1. +4
          30 January 2019 20: 17
          This is a trough with a displacement of 40000 tons and there is nowhere to place it))) There are no such berths. And the brigade of marines will fit into it alone. This is a ship for the U.S. ILC, of ​​which 150000 people.
      3. -1
        30 January 2019 21: 38
        you are right and no. In order to create a list of the necessary landing forces for the fleet, we need to understand what and how much we need. And we need to close two different directions.
        1. This is a means to close the Turkish, Danish, Norwegian and Chukchi straits in order to control them and not to let the enemy fleet go to their shores.
        For this we need funds on air cushions, high-speed Dugongs, Grena and the like.
        2. These are funds for operations like the Syrian express. So we need UDC like Mistral, etc. Nobody has canceled globalization and, accordingly, its interests around the world.
        3. Comparing the technique for points 1 and 2 is incorrect and illiterate.
        1. +2
          31 January 2019 08: 54
          to carry potatoes UDC? can make even more tanks for plowing gardens? Weapons are made for defense, and not in order to use it at least somehow especially if it is completely useless as a UDC, there are no tasks for it and there is no opportunity to cover this trough.
        2. +2
          1 February 2019 23: 20
          I see no benefit from UDC in the Syrian operation. Gren is even more useful. You can carry loads, unload by crane or through the ramp. With its own naval base and airbase, as well as loyal Aboriginal people, cargo ships are more needed to provide all this.
          1. 0
            17 February 2019 13: 18
            and thank god that you do not see. but if you lost and evacuation began, then you would understand how such ships are needed. especially when it is not possible or dangerous to use aviation.
    2. 0
      31 January 2019 15: 44
      Quote: nnz226
      About the large landing craft "Gren" - 2 Ka-29 helicopters - minuscule! This is only for the evacuation of the wounded, and even the RDG to land ... Where are the fire support helicopters, such as the Ka-52 ???
      It is possible to make another landing over an existing airfield with such a calculation that it could fall at the same time leaning back and align with the level of the current deck exactly behind the tailgate. Then, the helicopter landing on it could be pulled up to the available places with folded screws, which will make it possible to place 4 turntables.
  9. -5
    30 January 2019 19: 29
    Need a WIG Hybrid
    And SVP type "Jeyran"
    There is patency and flight
    And technology scatter
    1. +3
      30 January 2019 19: 53
      Dear candidate, you need to change your nickname. You are a little fantastic.
      1. -2
        30 January 2019 23: 42
        Progress cannot be stopped
        So he will say what to be ...
      2. 0
        28 March 2019 23: 18
        So the news came up
        So the idea has passed!

        https://politexpert.net/146589-model-novogo-ekranoplana-na-vozdushnoi-podushke-gotovyat-k-ispytaniyam
  10. 0
    30 January 2019 19: 50
    the author burns not in a childish way: read on the grenade to support the landing there is ak-630 and machine guns 14,5 well, and we will strongly support the landing
    1. 0
      31 January 2019 08: 57
      and planes for what? With airplanes we will support the landing, and Karakurt. The BDK’s tasks do not include landing support, this is an additional option, for example, when used in anti-piracy operations. Immediately after landing, the BDK leaves.
      1. +1
        31 January 2019 09: 23
        And if Greece is for airplanes, it will not give a corridor? The landing KUG is the 2 of the Gren helicopter with the 1 platform. And how many helicopters does the provision have? Given that only BOD 1155 - can carry 2 helicopters, yes Petya / Nakhimych - 3. The rest is on 1.
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          11 February 2019 20: 37
          Well, if the planes will not be given a corridor then the ship and even more so, where are you going to land and about which ones, which corridors? The landing force is landed within the frontline aviation and in the vicinity of ground forces, for example, to strike the enemy’s rear, while the main combat operations are not able to be carried out on their own, only a brief strike, and it is understood that immediately after the landing landing, ground forces strike to connect with landing party.