Another Lend-Lease. GMC CCKW-352, or simply "Jimmy"

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Continuing the conversation about the supply of cars in the USSR, we went to another car legend. And not just a car, but its three incarnations, which are on display at the UMMC military equipment museum in Verkhnyaya Pyshma. Surrounded by love and care, the famous American "Jimmy" are our heroes today.









Most readers, even those who are not interested in military technology, know this car from numerous Hollywood action movies. Moreover, many even saw this car in Russian and foreign museums and shots of military newsreel. Seen ... and did not see.

In the previous article, we talked about the legendary jeep. And there was no less legendary GMC CCKW-352 / 353, aka “Jimmy”, the most massive military truck of World War II. Along with the "Jeep", this was the very "workhorse" of the US Army.

Another Lend-Lease. GMC CCKW-352, or simply "Jimmy"


The number of these cars produced by the US auto industry is amazing. 562 750 units! In terms of quantity, this is more than each of the Willis companies (Willis and Ford). True, the total number of cars "Willis" released yet more. And the metal went more to Jimmy, so we have such a production parity.

"Jimmy" (there is another soldier's name for the car - "two and a half") existed in many guises. From an ordinary truck, although the word “ordinary” is difficult to accept here, to a mobile operating room. From dump truck to carrier bombs. Truly, wagon to the bone. Car for everything.





Home stories This car should not be sought in the design offices of automobile plants, but in the Pentagon. It was the United States military at the end of 30-ies of the last century, finally approved the classes of military vehicles.

The basic and universal tactical truck was supposed to be a vehicle with a tonnage of American tons (2,5 kg) and a wheel formula 2270x6. In addition to the transportation of goods and personnel, the car could also serve as a tractor for light field artillery.

Already by the name of the car, it is clear that General Motors Corporation was engaged in the development and production of the truck. The first production car naturally appeared in the Yellow Truck & Coach division of this corporation in 1940. It was a GMS ACKWX-353 truck.

Immediately there is a question about the numbers 352 / 353. The material is about 352, and the story is about 353. It's all about the different chassis lengths. About this below. For now about the first serial "Jimmy".

The car had a universal cargo platform and, so far, a commercial-type cabin, whose radiator was protected by a grille. For the US Army 2466 units were built.

Interestingly, the new truck almost immediately aroused interest among European consumers. A military delegation arrived from Paris, which, after testing, signed an agreement on the supply of such vehicles to the French army 1000.

Alas, but the French are not lucky. World War II began and France was occupied. But the "French Thousand" is not lost in the American prairies. Machines were delivered to England.

The Americans at this time modified the truck. A truly GMC CCKWX-353 military machine appeared. For a non-expert it is quite difficult to understand this whole set of letters and numbers. Therefore, it is worth deciphering the lettering of American cars.

So, GMC. It's clear. General Motors Corporation, the actual name of the manufacturer and the name of the car.

The first letter is the model year (A - 1940 g., C - 1941 g.).
The second - the type of cabin (C - bonnet, F - above the engine).
For commercial models, this was enough.

But for military cars had to add more letters. So, the letter K designates a drive front axle, W - that the car has three axes, X - that the car has a "non-native" transmission. The digital index is the chassis code, and the heavier the model was, the higher the number was.

The new car really became military. Appearance has become more ascetic. The habitable part of the cabin remained the same, but the hood and fenders received a simplified form. The bumper was also different - in the form of a massive bar. Cars were equipped with 6-cylinder carburetor engine GMC 270 4416 cube volume. see and power xnumx l. with.







The capacity of the corporation made it possible to produce a completely insane number of cars for that time. From October 1940 to February 1941, 13 188 units were manufactured. Most of the cars had a base 4166 mm. But among them were 250 vehicles that were intended for artillery. Artillery tractors.

These machines had a shorter base - 3683 mm. By the way, their appearance "killed" the letter "X" in the title. It was these cars, after some modernization in February 1941, and received the designation CCKW-352. In the future, under the Lend-Lease in the USSR were supplied for the most part just such cars.

From that moment on, mass production began. In 1943, 130 vehicles were manufactured. This was the peak of the release of the described car. In the same year, the Chevrolet division was connected to the release of GMC CCKW, and the Yellow Truck & Coach company was transformed into the GMC Truck & Coach division.
















The two strange things on the instrument panel are the lights. It is made outside the panel, and not familiar to us inside the device.

During production, various changes were made to the structure more than once, but this had practically no effect on the appearance. Since April 1943, the trucks have received a soft-top cab called the "tropical". True, this was caused, first of all, by the lack of metal, and not by the climate.









Every fourth truck was equipped with a ring turret for installing a machine gun, which was located on the roof of the cab.



The 1941-1943 produced a version of the GMC CCKW-353 with a non-leading front axle. It was designated as GMC CCW-353 and was supplied mainly under Lend-Lease. Total 23 made 500 such machines.

Since July, 1943, the metal cabins have been replaced with canvas, with fabric doors and side windows of transparent plastic. Such a cabin compared to a metal one had two serious advantages - firstly, it reduced the consumption of scarce metal, secondly, it reduced the overall height and volume of the car, which was important when being transported by sea vessels.

But in the conditions of the Russian winter, the cloth cabins of the “lend-lease” trucks evoked sound complaints. A total of five types of cabs were installed at GMC:
- typ 1574 and later typ 1608 - all-metal cab used on CCW and CCKW models;
- typ 1615 - all-metal cab, used on AFKWX;
- typ 1619 - tropical cab with canvas top for CCKW models;
- typ 1620 is a tropical cab with a canvas top for AFKWX models.

The main body type was a universal cargo platform, which the Americans called Cargo. In addition to it, there were dumping bodies (the same universal platform, but with a visor and a hydraulic lift), tanks for fuel and water, compressor stations, wagons of various purposes, cranes and loaders of bombs.

Separately, you can note improvised combat vehicles based on CCKW. In the US Army, in the field, launchers, Browning anti-aircraft machine guns of caliber 12,7-mm and 40-mm anti-aircraft guns Bofors were mounted on these trucks.

In the USSR, these cars also fell, albeit in scanty quantities, as we were mass shipments of trucks Studebaker US6. However, some CCKWs even mounted BM-13 jet mortars.

Consider the car more closely.

Control devices in cars GMC for today looked quite traditional. Although for Soviet drivers of American cars there was an unusual graduation of scales in a non-metric system. We quote the GMC truck manual published in 1944:

"The speedometer has the following divisions: 0; 16 km / h; 32 km / h; 48km / h; 64 km / h; 80 km / h; 96 km / h. The thermometer shows the water temperature in the cooling system. The water temperature can vary in depending on road conditions, however, it should be within 60-85о C, if the water temperature has risen to 100о Celsius, immediately stop the machine and find out the cause of overheating. "

In general, the non-metric system of calibration of instruments and tools caused a lot of trouble to Soviet drivers and commanders. The above-mentioned "manual" is written literally "step by step." Otherwise, for example, it is simply impossible to repair a car.

Now under the hood. To the GMC 270 engine already mentioned above. GMC 6 270 carburetor cylinder, 4,416 volume of liters (cylinder diameter 101,6 mm, working stroke 96,04 mm). The engine power was 102-104 horsepower (SAE) at 2750-2800 rpm.

The maximum speed on the highway is 72 km / h (45 miles), fuel consumption is 31-35 liters per 100 kilometers on the highway and from 65 to 75 liters per 100 kilometers on rough terrain.







The torque was transmitted to the gearbox through a dry single-disc clutch Inland 754379, located directly behind the flywheel. One of the few drawbacks of this three-point model was probably the need for frequent adjustment of the clutch.

The gearbox with a sliding shift mechanism was manufactured by Warner. She had 5 speeds forward and 1 back (fifth gear upshift) and was directly behind the clutch behind the crankcase block.

On the left side of the gearbox there was a power take-off shaft for additional equipment - a winch, a hydraulic pump and other devices. CCKW-353 and CCKW-352 used two different types of drive axles that were manufactured by Timken-Detroit Axle Co and Banjo (the latter was already mass-produced for Chevrolet trucks).

Trucks with separate rear axle drive and banjo drive had significantly different transmissions (different differentials, transfer cases, cardan shafts). Regardless of the wheelbase, axle types and cab, the truck could be equipped with a winch.



The winch was installed between the side members in front of the radiator behind the front bumper. It was set in motion with the help of a driveshaft from the gearbox.

Now about the body. There, too, has its own nuances. On the trucks described models installed three types of onboard platforms. The first was used until August 1942. It was made of steel and consisted of 10 or 14 patterned forged parts.

From August 1942 to February 1944, the bodies were made of wood. Produced in furniture factories. The reason is simple: saving metal, which on each body amounted to 450 kg.

Since February, 1944, the body has become universal. The sides were metal, but the floor was wooden. Solomon's solution! By the way, special folding seats for personnel were installed on all body types.



Well, the traditional tactical and technical characteristics of CCKW-352 / 353:

Years of release: 1941-45.

Engine: GMC 270, petrol, carburetor, in-line, six-cylinder, lower valve.

Engine power: hp 104-106
Overall dimensions: 6928 x 2235 x 2200 mm
Ground clearance: 250 mm
Maximum speed: 72 km / h
Fuel consumption: 38 liters per 100 km
Tank capacity: 150 liters
Vehicle mass: 5100 / 4540 kg

Well, the last. At the very beginning of the article we wrote that some of the readers saw this car "in person", but "did not recognize" it. This is a fairly frequent case. If you compare the photo of two trucks, a small “Jimmy” and the numerous “Studebaker”, everything will fall into place.



The total number of cars supplied to the USSR under Lend-Lease was 477 785 units, of which around 300 000 are off-highway trucks. And each of these cars was at the front really worth its weight in gold. Including CCKW-352.
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  1. +8
    1 December 2018 07: 16
    This technique has helped our country in the final stages of the Second World War.
  2. +9
    1 December 2018 07: 34
    My father drove a Studebaker with a BM-13. He liked the car.
    1. 0
      9 December 2018 11: 54
      my grandfather was an artilleryman, gun commander (76mm cannon), they were transferred to Studebeckers after horses, but I never confused them with GMCs: they give out wings, they are different, you can see from afar, Studebaker and Dodge have seen live three-quarters of times, on Dodzhike even once annealed in the summer in the Bryansk region - the uncle still stands in the garage, there is also a Tsundupp motorcycle ...
      in the Bryansk region in general, "a lot of things" a lot of people have: great-grandmother Ksenia used German helmets for feeding chickens in the chicken coop
      echo of war ...
  3. +1
    1 December 2018 07: 47
    Here's what's interesting: Americans are terribly fond of spans, while we have more shovels in use
    1. 0
      1 December 2018 12: 34
      The strike is more universal, perhaps
      1. +1
        1 December 2018 15: 23
        How many times it worked with him - only on relatively soft loose soils
  4. +6
    1 December 2018 08: 13
    As you can see, Russian roads were too much for them.
    During the service, sometimes I just got balls on my forehead from URAL-375 patency, he drove in incredible conditions.
    1. +2
      1 December 2018 13: 17
      Quote: bistrov.
      it is clear that the Russian roads were too much for them.
      ... URAL-375, he drove in incredible conditions.

      Before URAL-375, as well as before MTLB, another 20 years.

      But the fact that the Americans did not make single-wheel wheels on army vehicles is really somewhat surprising. In Lime, all army vehicles were already odd then, it seems.
    2. 0
      1 December 2018 22: 23
      During the service, sometimes I just got balls on my forehead from URAL-375 patency, he drove in incredible conditions.

      I agree, with the Deutz engine ... Ural 375 is simply gorgeous. smile

      Ural 375 with Deutz F6L 413 160ls / 2650 engine.
      1. +3
        2 December 2018 02: 24
        Quote: VictorZhivilov
        I agree, with the Deutz engine ... Ural 375 is simply gorgeous.

        But where are these engine plants? Where are these engines? Gazovskie air-cooled diesel engines, Yartsevsky diesel engines for AMO-ZiL, and Deitsy for the Urals or Gas? Almost finished motor and fuel equipment plants were destroyed. Here's an example of the Kustanai diesel plant:
        The plant began to be built in 1982 with the goal of producing a family of licensed diesel air-cooled diesel engines for design and technological documentation of the Kleckner-Humbold-Deutsc company (Germany).
        1982-1992 - the construction of the first phase of the plant for the production of 20 thousand Ural-744 engines per year. 1992 - production facilities of the plant for 6 thousand diesel engines per year were commissioned.
        The company has existed since March 2003, when AgromashHolding acquired the main assets of the bankrupt Kostanay Diesel Plant (KDZ) at an auction. Production started in April 2004. From January to September, products worth more than 208 million tenge were produced. By November 2004, 408 engines A-01M, A-41 were assembled at the plant. The amount of products released amounted to 273 million tenge. "Https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%88% D1% 85% D0% BE% D0% BB% D0% B4% D0% B8% D0% BD% D0% B3
        "Serial production of the GAZ-4301 car was launched in 1992. The truck was produced with a 6-cylinder air-cooled diesel engine GAZ-542 with a capacity of 125 hp, which was a licensed copy of the Deutz engine (the license was purchased for a whole family of diesel engines of various capacities). GAZ-542 is the first self-produced diesel engine of the Gorky Automobile Plant. "
        http://avtoremtech.ru/spectehnika_bort_gaz_4301.html
  5. +2
    1 December 2018 08: 27
    The two strange things on the instrument panel are the lights. It is made outside the panel, and not familiar to us inside the device.

    Similarly, it was done on post-war Soviet cars, "UralZis" and Gaz-51.
    1. +4
      1 December 2018 12: 10
      And on pre-war too.

      The panel light of the car ZIS-5. Turned on by turning the entire valve clockwise.
    2. 0
      1 December 2018 21: 58
      Quote: K-50
      The two strange things on the instrument panel are the lights. It is made outside the panel, and not familiar to us inside the device.

      Similarly, it was done on post-war Soviet cars, "UralZis" and Gaz-51.

      And I liked this backlight! And also on the Gas-67, Gas-69, Gas-63, Zil-157, Zil 150, 164 and so on (sorry out of order), and 150 was still ZiS.
  6. +4
    1 December 2018 11: 29
    Quote: K-50
    The two strange things on the instrument panel are the lights. It is made outside the panel, and not familiar to us inside the device.

    Similarly, it was done on post-war Soviet cars, "UralZis" and Gaz-51.

    My father used to work on the GAZ-51, and then went to work on a collective farm, I vaguely remember the cabin and these lights (one did not work), they gave dim lighting and the drivers scolded about this.
    When I was little I was annoyed by the sight of "sharp-nosed" cabins. Here the ZIL-130 or "Kolkhida" seemed to me more perfect, but now I would gladly climb into such a cabin. For their time, such cabins were perfect
    1. jjj
      0
      1 December 2018 15: 43
      In general, the backlight should not be bright. It should generally be an ultra-violet spectrum. From this, the arrows and gauges shine brightly enough. The eyes of the driver are adapted to the dark. And the enemy does not see the light in the cockpit
      1. 0
        4 December 2018 18: 43
        I heard about this from the drivers of the PEACE TIME. And in the war, as a driver of our "Zis" ("Zakhar" said the driver) or the occasional getaway, I don't know. I remember from the old people I heard when cars drive at night, they often hung a towel or a white pillowcase on the back side of the car in front so that the rear ones were guided
  7. +2
    1 December 2018 12: 02
    "In terms of the total number of cars, there are still more Wilis. And more metal went to Jimmy, and even more to the Sherman. Sorry, but your joke is not the best."
    As far as I know from the front-line soldiers, our chauffeurs really appreciated the car with the winch. I don't remember being supplied with cars with a machine gun above the cab. Never heard of this, perhaps there were very few of them? I read somewhere that instead of the "Tropical" cabins we made wooden
  8. +2
    1 December 2018 12: 37
    not such a curiosity, it turns out.
    interesting, but do they suit us?

    http://faeton.zp.ua/avtomobil-agmc-cckw-353-ssha/
    1. +3
      1 December 2018 14: 14
      The car was introduced by the club's English partners in 2007. Year of release of 1942. The full original, in completely good condition.
      1. 0
        1 December 2018 15: 19
        This one is understandable, but those that are in the article?
        1. +1
          1 December 2018 15: 24
          I have 2500 km to them, so I can’t say anything.
  9. +3
    1 December 2018 14: 41
    I remember reading the story of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, how they handed over part of the cars received through Lend-Lease. The car should be on track and fully equipped, right down to the smallest wrench. And after receiving them right there on the pier under the press and in the hold. !
    Inspired by the photo of "Jimmy" with a strapped entrenching tool!
    1. +5
      1 December 2018 15: 35
      Of course you cry, the equipment was thought out.

      Even the sleeves for refueling and canisters with a watering can included.
      1. +3
        1 December 2018 16: 59
        Quote: Decimam
        cans with watering can included

        The cans.
        Only the Germans had normal canisters.
    2. +1
      1 December 2018 15: 43
      Quote: andrewkor
      I remember reading the story of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, how they handed over part of the cars received through Lend-Lease. The car should be on track and fully equipped, right down to the smallest wrench. And after receiving them right there on the pier under the press and in the hold. !
      Inspired by the photo of "Jimmy" with a strapped entrenching tool!

      The logic of capitalism. The production flywheel is untwisted, and its stop threatens with a crisis. Therefore, nobody in the USA needed a huge secondary market for army equipment.
      1. +1
        2 December 2018 02: 12
        Quote: Narak-zempo
        Quote: andrewkor
        I remember reading the story of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, how they handed over part of the cars received through Lend-Lease. The car should be on track and fully equipped, right down to the smallest wrench. And after receiving them right there on the pier under the press and in the hold. !
        Inspired by the photo of "Jimmy" with a strapped entrenching tool!

        The logic of capitalism. The production flywheel is untwisted, and its stop threatens with a crisis. Therefore, nobody in the USA needed a huge secondary market for army equipment.
        - nothing to do with capitalism. The logic of a rational person. These trucks could well have been delivered to France, Great Britain, and even defeated Japan. But it was economically unprofitable to load, bring, sort various models / modifications, draw up defecations for each copy ... And until the end of this work you cannot even understand - how much, what and in what condition you will succeed. And then it somehow needs to be repaired, and in each case there will be a problem, its spare parts.
        1. +2
          2 December 2018 08: 54
          Quote: Supporter of Putin
          - nothing to do with capitalism. The logic of a rational person. These trucks could well have been delivered to France, Great Britain, and even defeated Japan. But it was economically unprofitable to load, bring, sort various models / modifications, draw up defecations for each copy ... And until the end of this work you cannot even understand - how much, what and in what condition you will succeed. And then it somehow needs to be repaired, and in each case there will be a problem, its spare parts.

          Why on earth would they have to GIVE them to someone, if American companies needed to SELL cars, i.e. sales markets are needed. The same Europe and Japan - even for loans provided under the Marshall plan, if only there was demand. And the lend-lease equipment had already been sold to the US government, so it had to be removed from the market at any cost. Remember the proverb "What's good for General Motors is good for America", remember the draft laws of the Great Depression about the forced limitation of the life cycle of things.
          1. -1
            4 December 2018 02: 13
            It was not General Motors that destroyed it, but the government, for the most prosaic reasons — the general wear and tear of most of the delivered cars was not economically feasible to repair.
            By your logic, the easiest way was simply to give the money to the manufacturers to the government and not to release anything at all.
    3. jjj
      +2
      1 December 2018 15: 48
      It only bothers me that canisters on cars are everywhere of the German type. The Anglo-Saxons had others - very uncomfortable. This, apparently, shows the experience adopted by the Germans from 1944 of the year.
      1. +4
        1 December 2018 20: 36
        "I am only embarrassed that the canisters on cars are everywhere of the German type. The Anglo-Saxons had other - very uncomfortable."

        "Louisiana maneuvers". August 1941.
        1. +5
          1 December 2018 20: 40

          Warehouse in Savannah, Georgia, 1943
        2. +4
          1 December 2018 20: 44

          "Louisiana maneuvers". August 1941.
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      3. 0
        4 December 2018 17: 55
        Thank you for bringing up canisters. As a child, my father told me that a 2 liter canister, the far right one, was "American", and a Russian one was a so-called "milk" flask, or as in the photo in the center. At least when he studied to be a chauffeur after the war, they called her "Russian"
    4. +1
      1 December 2018 17: 33
      It never occurred to ours that it was just scrap for the Americans, that it was cheaper for them to make new ones than to bring them back to the worn out ones by the war.
      I also read this, but tried to find whether the Americans really were picky about the property they were accepting, but I did not find a single case when they refused to accept something because of an incomplete or poor appearance.
      1. Alf
        +1
        1 December 2018 18: 50
        Quote: Avior
        but I did not find a single case when they refused to accept something because of incomplete or poor appearance.

        I heard one story, maybe it's true, maybe not, but the students rolled on one hand after removing it from the platform, because only the body was left from the car, everything was removed inside.
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          1. Alf
            0
            2 December 2018 21: 43
            Quote: AEN
            IN THE USSR TERRITORIES- ITEMS- PLANTS- ASSEMBLIES OF MACHINES..LAND-LIZ..Jeeps..LOUGHT..Armour ..- TANKS..HELP- FROM ALLIES ... CARBON..BOOTS..INTHEAST..REAMOTION . FOR LAND-LIZ .. IN 2016

            And this, excuse me, why? The article discusses a specific truck model. CAPS stuck?
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    5. 0
      4 December 2018 17: 43
      I heard about it live from the old people
  10. +2
    1 December 2018 16: 34
    Thank you, I'm waiting for the same material about "Jeep 3/4".
    1. 0
      1 December 2018 17: 01
      Quote: irazum
      Thank you, I'm waiting for the same material about "Jeep 3/4".

      Not "Jeep", but "Dodge" - there was already material.
      1. 0
        1 December 2018 17: 02
        Yes, sorry, wrong.
  11. +3
    1 December 2018 16: 44
    The cars were equipped with a 6-cylinder GMC 270 carburetor engine with a volume of 4416 cubic meters. see and with a capacity of 94 liters. from.
    "Motor Vehicle Driver: Basic Driving Instructions and Inspections"
    Training film the US Army. 1942 hi
  12. +1
    1 December 2018 16: 59
    Interesting article.
  13. +1
    1 December 2018 20: 46
    Well, preparation for painting. Ugh!
  14. +4
    1 December 2018 22: 07
    Thank you for the interesting article! For those who want to see this iconic Car in dynamics and listen to the engine. smile
  15. +2
    2 December 2018 14: 28
    For some reason, the author said nothing about the gable front wheels? Moreover, from the cars shown in the photo, the second has one-wheel front wheels.
  16. +2
    2 December 2018 18: 54
    There were very few such cars in the Red Army. 30 times less than students. High compression engine requiring high-quality fuel and oil ... Not for our military realities.
    A good car - but not ours.
    1. 0
      3 December 2018 15: 23
      Well, there was simply no urgent need.
      And with gasoline - no problem. It was supplied by the Allies in 1941 - 1943, and then - additives of thermal power plants.
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  18. 0
    3 December 2018 22: 17
    Yes, against the background of these "animals" our VISKs with "lorries" look anachronistic.

    Thanks to the authors for the material. Never a driver, but everything is interesting. hi
  19. 0
    4 December 2018 18: 10
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Avior
    but I did not find a single case when they refused to accept something because of incomplete or poor appearance.

    I heard one story, maybe it's true, maybe not, but the students rolled on one hand after removing it from the platform, because only the body was left from the car, everything was removed inside.

    I heard a similar thing from old people: the most gouging students handed over, chauffeurs and there they were looking for what to "screw up" ", and which good ones" hid "
    In our village, in the early seventies, people still had things from the war: German scrap (to be honest, I didn’t see much difference) bowlers (whose I don’t remember anymore), and my father had a German razor
    1. 0
      9 December 2018 12: 21
      in the Bryansk region, both bowlers and flasks are still in use, in general there are many "black diggers", and local "collective farm bikers" in German helmets cut through. You go to the Unechka river from the city - the road through the forest, you can see the outlines of trenches, if you "dig" with your foot, the shell casings will fly out or the boot will catch on a piece of rusty empty machine-gun belt, closer to the river there is a monument to the executed residents of Unecha, and in the river itself, if from the "paddling pools" (small bays where children swim) to swim to the island, passing "viras" (funnels on the water - always in one place, for an adult sober man they are not dangerous) if you dive 2 meters with a flashlight ... it costs OH: T- 34, covered in silt, goosebumps ... but there were no casualties as far as I know
      Unecha was in the occupation, after that terrible battles were going on for her (the town passed from hand to hand several times): the junction station (Moscow-Belarus-Ukraine), on Pervomayskaya, Popov and in the direction of Klintsy, there are still "bombs" - funnels from bombs, they do not fall asleep: in one they bathe dogs, on the other they wash cars ...
      At the uncle, behind the gate on the left, the depot Zh / Dshnoe, and the water station right and to the right - all in the tracks of bullets and fragments
      And the population is mostly old and old, there are few young people, everyone leaves for Moscow and Bryansk, but to go to these memorable places - so he takes a hell ...
      Well, the technique itself is somewhere Dodzhik (at my uncle), somewhere a cradle on a motorcycle ... from afar, you will come up with an ordinary "Ural" one - and there are places for machine-gun bipods, but all painted in three layers - ancient ..
      whoever was in such godforsaken outbacks where there were serious battles will understand: you can find almost everything there, though most of it is rubbish, but still ...
      1. +2
        9 December 2018 16: 47
        There were no battles around my village, but I saw near Vishora. You are right when you read one thing, but if you yourself see such "footprints" and imagine what happened there during the war: frost on the skin is guaranteed